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>    1. Re: ESCI model viper pit (Bubba)
>    2. Re: ESCI model viper pit (Darren Barney)
>    3. RE: ESCI model viper pit (rene)
>    4. RE: Jetstream Update (Roy Coates)
>    5. Re: ESCI model viper pit (Roy Coates)
>    6. Re: Jetstream Update (Roy Coates)
>    7. Re: Jetstream Update (Sean Galbraith)
>    8. Re: Jetstream Update (Roy Coates)
>    9. AW: [simpits-tech] lights under glareshield..... (Marc Weigert)
>   10. Re: ESCI model viper pit (AzbellC@aol.com)
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> Message: 1
> From: "Bubba" <mysticz28@swbell.net>
> To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] ESCI model viper pit
> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 21:11:33 -0500
> Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
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> Inventmd@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > Also, having not built too many plastic
> > models before, I would like to know if people paint the parts before
> > removal from the plastic framework that holds the parts.  I am open
> > to any tips.....
>
> Wash all the parts in degreaser (dish soap works), prime everything,
> basecoat it, and paint all the details you can before starting to build.
> Much easier to hold parts that are still attached to the sprue. Also make
> sure to scrape the paint off the joints before glueing, and don't try to use
> superglue or similar, it leaves white funk everywhere.
> --
> Steve
> mysticz28@swbell.net
> The only difference in 40 and 140 is the sirens and flashing lights
> behind you.
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 22:10:17 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Darren Barney <checksixa7@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] ESCI model viper pit
> To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
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> Hello,
>
> I have 3 f-16 cockpit models including an ESCI kit.
> if you give me a mailing address ill send you that set
> of plans i dont need it.
> let me know.
>
> Regards Darren
>
>
>
>
> --- Inventmd@aol.com wrote:
> > Hi all.
> > Just picked up a ESCI model viper pit off E-bay.
> > For some reason, instructions were not included. I
> > suppose I could figure it
> > out, but....
> > I wonder if a kind person out there who has already
> > built one could scan the
> > instructions and e-mail it to me.  Also, having not
> > built too many plastic
> > models before, I would like to know if people paint
> > the parts before removal from
> > the plastic framework that holds the parts.  I am
> > open to any tips.....
> >
> > Thanks,
> > John
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> Message: 3
> From: "rene" <rene@melkweg.nl>
> To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] ESCI model viper pit
> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 10:05:44 +0200
> Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
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> Look at the FTP site of simpits.
>
> Some pages are in pub/F-16/F-16Info
>
> Make sure you download the *.gif as the others are way to big.
>
> Biggles.
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org
> [mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org]namens Inventmd@aol.com
> Verzonden: dinsdag 22 juli 2003 2:40
> Aan: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> Onderwerp: [simpits-tech] ESCI model viper pit
>
>
> Hi all.
> Just picked up a ESCI model viper pit off E-bay.
> For some reason, instructions were not included. I suppose I could figure it
> out, but....
> I wonder if a kind person out there who has already built one could scan the
> instructions and e-mail it to me.  Also, having not built too many plastic
> models before, I would like to know if people paint the parts before removal
> from
> the plastic framework that holds the parts.  I am open to any tips.....
>
> Thanks,
> John
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 10:13:48 +0100 (BST)
> From: Roy Coates <roy@flightlab.liv.ac.uk>
> To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] Jetstream Update
> Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
>
> On Mon, 21 Jul 2003, Darren Beaumont wrote:
>
> > Quite a few a/c have the roll/pitch disconnect system, Saab 340, Saab
> > 2000, ERJ 13x/14x etc.  The idea is if there is a control
> > jam/restriction, you can either pull the handle for either pitch, roll
> > or both, so that the unaffected side maintains some sort of control - as
> > you've found out the only way to reset the system once on the ground is
> > to start opening up panels etc.  The system can also operate if a higher
> > than normal force is used, approx 45-50lbs of force for the Saab 340,
> > which temporarily disconnects the affected channel and is automatically
> > reset when the force returns to normal.
> >
> > It should all be in Chapter 27 of the Maintenance Manual, how the system
> > works and how to reset the system.
> >
> > Its an ingenious idea and has saved a few people and a/c from an
> > untimely end.
> >
> > Good luck on the Jetstream.
> >
> > Darren
>
>
> Cheers Darren. Not having much of an interest in this type of aircraft I
> was unaware of such a system. Having all the MOM's though has been quite
> an education and the disconnect system seems pretty clever. There are
> indeed clutches elsewhere in the system to handle disconnects under other
> conditions.
>
> Roy.
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 10:21:50 +0100 (BST)
> From: Roy Coates <roy@flightlab.liv.ac.uk>
> To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] ESCI model viper pit
> Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
>
> On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 Inventmd@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Hi all.
> > Just picked up a ESCI model viper pit off E-bay.
> > For some reason, instructions were not included. I suppose I could figure it
> > out, but....
> > I wonder if a kind person out there who has already built one could scan the
> > instructions and e-mail it to me.  Also, having not built too many plastic
> > models before, I would like to know if people paint the parts before removal from
> > the plastic framework that holds the parts.  I am open to any tips.....
> >
>
> Can't help with the destructions, but sure - paint what you can before
> assembly. Some parts will be almost impossible to paint afterwards.
>
> Oh, and get a large tub of patience - its worth it.
>
> Roy.
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 10:48:47 +0100 (BST)
> From: Roy Coates <roy@flightlab.liv.ac.uk>
> To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Jetstream Update
> Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
>
> On Mon, 21 Jul 2003, Bubba wrote:
>
> > How many times have you tripped over the spar? Fortunately the 41 was phased
> > out long before I worked there, nothing but SF340A/Bs and ATR72s, with the
> > occasional 42, but when I was flying around the southeast US for fun I
> > probably set a record for tripping over that bloody thing.
>
> Err... never. You can't. The only bit that gets me is the slight ramp at
> the back leading up to the toilet - which is now the library ;)
>
>
> > Oh yeah, does
> > yours have the belly pod? If so, there's a good place to pack in computers
> > that don't need much attention. If I remember right there's a ~12" square
> > access panel just in front of the spar that goes down there and enough room
> > between the floor and subfloor for all the wiring you'll ever need.
>
> Too far away. Theres a handy cupboard behind the FO seat which will do
> nicely though.
>
>
> > On the
> > yokes, doesn't the 41 have full mechanical backups on the controls? As in
> > power isn't needed to move 'em. If so, you planning on leaving it all
> > connected so everything moves when it's supposed to?
>
> When she was re-assembled, none of the linkages/cables were re-connected
> and we've installed gust-locks on all surfaces. Little point in flapping
> the things around really.
>
> Puzzled about the spar comments, if you look at the delivery photo's
> you'll see that the entire wing section is one lump, the fuse sits on top
> of that so the spar is effectively below floor level.
>
> Roy.
>
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 21:58:17 +1200
> To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> From: Sean Galbraith <sean.g@paradise.net.nz>
> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Jetstream Update
> Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
>
>
> >Puzzled about the spar comments, if you look at the delivery photo's
> >you'll see that the entire wing section is one lump, the fuse sits on top
> >of that so the spar is effectively below floor level.
>
> So it's not like the Queenair then.....  The damn spar sticks up about 3
> inches right at the rear of the cockpit....how many times I've kicked the
> bl00dy thing so far..... Haven't actually fallen over, yet ;-)
>
> Sean.
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 11:43:18 +0100 (BST)
> From: Roy Coates <roy@flightlab.liv.ac.uk>
> To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Jetstream Update
> Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
>
> On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Sean Galbraith wrote:
>
> >
> > >Puzzled about the spar comments, if you look at the delivery photo's
> > >you'll see that the entire wing section is one lump, the fuse sits on top
> > >of that so the spar is effectively below floor level.
> >
> > So it's not like the Queenair then.....  The damn spar sticks up about 3
> > inches right at the rear of the cockpit....how many times I've kicked the
> > bl00dy thing so far..... Haven't actually fallen over, yet ;-)
> >
>
> I seem to recall that the DC-3 was the most famous for spar problems.
> Sadly I missed the chance to fly in one a few weeks back so I missed the
> chance to fall over it ;)
>
> Roy.
>
>
>
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> Message: 9
> From: "Marc Weigert" <mail@marceting.de>
> To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> Subject: AW: [simpits-tech] lights under glareshield.....
> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 14:26:22 +0200
> Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
>
> Hi group,
>
> I took some pictures of one of mine this weekend and will post them as soon
> as I have dealt with that mess that piled up on my desk the past days ;o)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Marc
>
> > -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org
> > [mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org]Im Auftrag von Marv De Beque
> > Gesendet: Samstag, 19. Juli 2003 13:04
> > An: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> > Betreff: Re: [simpits-tech] lights under glareshield.....
> >
> >
> > NVS compatible uses green light at very, very low light
> > levels (displays are
> > a fraction of a Foot-Lambert if memory serves).
> >
> > On 7/19/03 12:29 AM, "Ben Jones" <bjones@pipecomp.com.au> wrote:
> >
> > > If the light was capable / compatiable  with a NVG/NINOX
> > set , then from my
> > > course i did the light emmited would be infa-red light  ,
> > > infa-red is excellent to use with nvg it lights up the area
> > in front of you
> > > extreemly well when viewed through the nvg set , but if you
> > removed the set
> > > off your head the infa-red light is not visible to the
> > naked human eye.
> > >
> > > excellent for reading maps in the complete dark , without
> > being detected by
> > > a naked human eye.  but bad if the ememy has infa-red
> > capable nvg sets too
> > > then its exaclty like turning on a conventional torch.
> > >
> > > ben
> > > bjones@pipecomp.com.au
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Marc Weigert" <mail@marceting.de>
> > >>
> > >> I got two different types - the old ones give a white
> > light, the new ones
> > > a
> > >> blueish/greenish light (NVG capable, I was told).
> > >>
> > >
> > >
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> Message: 10
> From: AzbellC@aol.com
> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 12:24:34 EDT
> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] ESCI model viper pit
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