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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: ESCI model viper pit (Bubba)
   2. Re: ESCI model viper pit (Darren Barney)
   3. RE: ESCI model viper pit (rene)
   4. RE: Jetstream Update (Roy Coates)
   5. Re: ESCI model viper pit (Roy Coates)
   6. Re: Jetstream Update (Roy Coates)
   7. Re: Jetstream Update (Sean Galbraith)
   8. Re: Jetstream Update (Roy Coates)
   9. AW: [simpits-tech] lights under glareshield..... (Marc Weigert)
  10. Re: ESCI model viper pit (AzbellC@aol.com)

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Message: 1
From: "Bubba" <mysticz28@swbell.net>
To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] ESCI model viper pit
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 21:11:33 -0500
Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org

Inventmd@aol.com wrote:
>
> Also, having not built too many plastic
> models before, I would like to know if people paint the parts before
> removal from the plastic framework that holds the parts.  I am open
> to any tips.....

Wash all the parts in degreaser (dish soap works), prime everything,
basecoat it, and paint all the details you can before starting to build.
Much easier to hold parts that are still attached to the sprue. Also make
sure to scrape the paint off the joints before glueing, and don't try to use
superglue or similar, it leaves white funk everywhere.
--
Steve
mysticz28@swbell.net
The only difference in 40 and 140 is the sirens and flashing lights
behind you.

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 22:10:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Darren Barney <checksixa7@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] ESCI model viper pit
To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org

Hello,

I have 3 f-16 cockpit models including an ESCI kit.
if you give me a mailing address ill send you that set
of plans i dont need it.
let me know.

Regards Darren

--- Inventmd@aol.com wrote:
> Hi all.
> Just picked up a ESCI model viper pit off E-bay.
> For some reason, instructions were not included. I
> suppose I could figure it 
> out, but....
> I wonder if a kind person out there who has already
> built one could scan the 
> instructions and e-mail it to me.  Also, having not
> built too many plastic 
> models before, I would like to know if people paint
> the parts before removal from 
> the plastic framework that holds the parts.  I am
> open to any tips.....
> 
> Thanks,
> John
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Message: 3
From: "rene" <rene@melkweg.nl>
To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] ESCI model viper pit
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 10:05:44 +0200
Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org

Look at the FTP site of simpits.

Some pages are in pub/F-16/F-16Info

Make sure you download the *.gif as the others are way to big.

Biggles.

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Verzonden: dinsdag 22 juli 2003 2:40
Aan: simpits-tech@simpits.org
Onderwerp: [simpits-tech] ESCI model viper pit

Hi all.
Just picked up a ESCI model viper pit off E-bay.
For some reason, instructions were not included. I suppose I could figure it
out, but....
I wonder if a kind person out there who has already built one could scan the
instructions and e-mail it to me.  Also, having not built too many plastic
models before, I would like to know if people paint the parts before removal
from
the plastic framework that holds the parts.  I am open to any tips.....

Thanks,
John
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 10:13:48 +0100 (BST)
From: Roy Coates <roy@flightlab.liv.ac.uk>
To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] Jetstream Update
Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org

On Mon, 21 Jul 2003, Darren Beaumont wrote:

> Quite a few a/c have the roll/pitch disconnect system, Saab 340, Saab
> 2000, ERJ 13x/14x etc.  The idea is if there is a control
> jam/restriction, you can either pull the handle for either pitch, roll
> or both, so that the unaffected side maintains some sort of control - as
> you've found out the only way to reset the system once on the ground is
> to start opening up panels etc.  The system can also operate if a higher
> than normal force is used, approx 45-50lbs of force for the Saab 340,
> which temporarily disconnects the affected channel and is automatically
> reset when the force returns to normal.
>
> It should all be in Chapter 27 of the Maintenance Manual, how the system
> works and how to reset the system.
>
> Its an ingenious idea and has saved a few people and a/c from an
> untimely end.
>
> Good luck on the Jetstream.
>
> Darren

Cheers Darren. Not having much of an interest in this type of aircraft I
was unaware of such a system. Having all the MOM's though has been quite
an education and the disconnect system seems pretty clever. There are
indeed clutches elsewhere in the system to handle disconnects under other
conditions.

Roy.

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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 10:21:50 +0100 (BST)
From: Roy Coates <roy@flightlab.liv.ac.uk>
To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] ESCI model viper pit
Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org

On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 Inventmd@aol.com wrote:

> Hi all.
> Just picked up a ESCI model viper pit off E-bay.
> For some reason, instructions were not included. I suppose I could figure it
> out, but....
> I wonder if a kind person out there who has already built one could scan the
> instructions and e-mail it to me.  Also, having not built too many plastic
> models before, I would like to know if people paint the parts before removal from
> the plastic framework that holds the parts.  I am open to any tips.....
>

Can't help with the destructions, but sure - paint what you can before
assembly. Some parts will be almost impossible to paint afterwards.

Oh, and get a large tub of patience - its worth it.

Roy.

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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 10:48:47 +0100 (BST)
From: Roy Coates <roy@flightlab.liv.ac.uk>
To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Jetstream Update
Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org

On Mon, 21 Jul 2003, Bubba wrote:

> How many times have you tripped over the spar? Fortunately the 41 was phased
> out long before I worked there, nothing but SF340A/Bs and ATR72s, with the
> occasional 42, but when I was flying around the southeast US for fun I
> probably set a record for tripping over that bloody thing.

Err... never. You can't. The only bit that gets me is the slight ramp at
the back leading up to the toilet - which is now the library ;)

> Oh yeah, does
> yours have the belly pod? If so, there's a good place to pack in computers
> that don't need much attention. If I remember right there's a ~12" square
> access panel just in front of the spar that goes down there and enough room
> between the floor and subfloor for all the wiring you'll ever need.

Too far away. Theres a handy cupboard behind the FO seat which will do
nicely though.

> On the
> yokes, doesn't the 41 have full mechanical backups on the controls? As in
> power isn't needed to move 'em. If so, you planning on leaving it all
> connected so everything moves when it's supposed to?

When she was re-assembled, none of the linkages/cables were re-connected
and we've installed gust-locks on all surfaces. Little point in flapping
the things around really.

Puzzled about the spar comments, if you look at the delivery photo's
you'll see that the entire wing section is one lump, the fuse sits on top
of that so the spar is effectively below floor level.

Roy.

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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 21:58:17 +1200
To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
From: Sean Galbraith <sean.g@paradise.net.nz>
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Jetstream Update
Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org

>Puzzled about the spar comments, if you look at the delivery photo's
>you'll see that the entire wing section is one lump, the fuse sits on top
>of that so the spar is effectively below floor level.

So it's not like the Queenair then.....  The damn spar sticks up about 3 
inches right at the rear of the cockpit....how many times I've kicked the 
bl00dy thing so far..... Haven't actually fallen over, yet ;-)

Sean.

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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 11:43:18 +0100 (BST)
From: Roy Coates <roy@flightlab.liv.ac.uk>
To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Jetstream Update
Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org

On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Sean Galbraith wrote:

>
> >Puzzled about the spar comments, if you look at the delivery photo's
> >you'll see that the entire wing section is one lump, the fuse sits on top
> >of that so the spar is effectively below floor level.
>
> So it's not like the Queenair then.....  The damn spar sticks up about 3
> inches right at the rear of the cockpit....how many times I've kicked the
> bl00dy thing so far..... Haven't actually fallen over, yet ;-)
>

I seem to recall that the DC-3 was the most famous for spar problems.
Sadly I missed the chance to fly in one a few weeks back so I missed the
chance to fall over it ;)

Roy.

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Message: 9
From: "Marc Weigert" <mail@marceting.de>
To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
Subject: AW: [simpits-tech] lights under glareshield.....
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 14:26:22 +0200
Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org

Hi group,

I took some pictures of one of mine this weekend and will post them as soon
as I have dealt with that mess that piled up on my desk the past days ;o)

Cheers,

Marc

> -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
> Von: simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org
> [mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org]Im Auftrag von Marv De Beque
> Gesendet: Samstag, 19. Juli 2003 13:04
> An: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> Betreff: Re: [simpits-tech] lights under glareshield.....
>
>
> NVS compatible uses green light at very, very low light
> levels (displays are
> a fraction of a Foot-Lambert if memory serves).
>
> On 7/19/03 12:29 AM, "Ben Jones" <bjones@pipecomp.com.au> wrote:
>
> > If the light was capable / compatiable  with a NVG/NINOX
> set , then from my
> > course i did the light emmited would be infa-red light  ,
> > infa-red is excellent to use with nvg it lights up the area
> in front of you
> > extreemly well when viewed through the nvg set , but if you
> removed the set
> > off your head the infa-red light is not visible to the
> naked human eye.
> >
> > excellent for reading maps in the complete dark , without
> being detected by
> > a naked human eye.  but bad if the ememy has infa-red
> capable nvg sets too
> > then its exaclty like turning on a conventional torch.
> >
> > ben
> > bjones@pipecomp.com.au
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Marc Weigert" <mail@marceting.de>
> >>
> >> I got two different types - the old ones give a white
> light, the new ones
> > a
> >> blueish/greenish light (NVG capable, I was told).
> >>
> >
> >
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Message: 10
From: AzbellC@aol.com
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 12:24:34 EDT
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] ESCI model viper pit
To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
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