[simpits-tech] F-16 parts
Jonas Frazier
simpits-tech@simpits.org
Fri, 17 Jan 2003 12:32:35 -0700
Hi:
thank god there is some one out there with your philosophy!
Jonas
>From: "Akin, Keenan L" <keenan.l.akin@boeing.com>
>Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
>To: "'simpits-tech@simpits.org'" <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
>Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] F-16 parts
>Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 13:20:38 -0600
>
>Jonas,
>
>To more directly address your comment regarding Nazis, I couldn't agree
>more. I think that it is more a function of ignorance than anything. Your
>everyday doofus, who has trouble cracking open a history book, simply
>has a Hollywood mentality that equates all German citizens of that time
>period with Nazis. There are even people who think that, just because you
>have an admiration for the amazing aircraft of the German Luftwaffe, you
>must sympathize with Nazi philosophy. Just ignore the ignorant. Your
>friends know better.
>
>Sorry for the political turn this has taken. We now resume your regularly
>scheduled mail list, already in progress...
>
>Keenan
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jonas Frazier [mailto:spitpilot40@hotmail.com]
>Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 12:27 PM
>To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
>Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] F-16 parts
>
>
>I'm not going to rip on the AF, because my dad was a pilot in both the
>Navy
>
>and AF. None the less, the pilots of all nations, and of all the branches
>do their duty to the fullest extent. I think that this is what needs to be
>observed. I was in the marines. every recruit that I went through with,
>and
>
>then every marine that I went through MOS school until I washed out, where
>all wiliing to give their lives for their duty. I don't like this rivalry
>stuff, men on both sides die for their homeland, and families,
>reguardless of what they think of the cause, or thier leader. Like the
>Germans. My grandfather was in both World Wars. He did want not be fighting
>for the cause, but was there for his family. He didn't like Hitler, or
>the
>
>Nazis, but still did his duty as a young and healthy man. he stood up to
>the nazis, but wasn't killed because he was a hero of the First World War.
>He did his duty. I wish just because that one nations leader is messed up
>in
>
>the head, doesn't mean that they are all bad people. Believe me, I've
>been
>
>on the receiving end of the biggitry, and unintelligence from People.
>Thinking I'm a Nazi because I am German, of the fact that people in the
>past of my country screwed up
>Sorry about this.
>SEMPER FI! to all you Marines.
>Jonas Frazier
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Akin, Keenan L" <keenan.l.akin@boeing.com>
> >Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> >To: "'simpits-tech@simpits.org'" <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> >Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] F-16 parts
> >Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:58:53 -0600
> >
> >That's not to suggest that 30+ year old aircraft are necessarily obsolete
> >(i.e., B-52). However, carrier-based aircraft see very frequent and
>severe
> >load cycles in the course of their lives (not counting combat flight
> >maneuver loads). Air Force weenies* with miles of runway and flared
> >landings can keep their planes airshow fresh for years longer than Naval
> >Aviators who routinely crash into ships, only to be violently catapulted
> >off
> >the deck moments later.
> >
> >*meant with great respect. No offense to our intrepid Air Force folks. :)
> >
> >Keenan
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Jonas Frazier [mailto:spitpilot40@hotmail.com]
> >Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 10:09 AM
> >To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> >Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] F-16 parts
> >
> >
> >
> >Well, I guess that you're right. After some 30 years of service, it had
>to
> >be retired.
> >Jonas
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Akin, Keenan L" <keenan.l.akin@boeing.com>
> > >Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> > >To: "'simpits-tech@simpits.org'" <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> > >Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] F-16 parts
> > >Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:04:23 -0600
> > >
> > >At the risk of being perceived as biased (I work on the F/A-18
>program),
> > >the
> > >A-6 was retired primarily due to age associated maintenance costs. It
> >was
> > >definitely one of the great bomb trucks (along with the A-7).
> > >
> > >It is way too early to assume that the JSF will replace anything (can
>you
> > >say F-22?).
> > >
> > >It will be tough to replace the A-10 with anything other than another
> >A-10.
> > >
> > >Keenan
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Jonas Frazier [mailto:spitpilot40@hotmail.com]
> > >Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 8:37 AM
> > >To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> > >Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] F-16 parts
> > >
> > >
> > >HI:
> > >The military is all ways replacing the aircraft before they diserve to
>be
> > >retired. I know what you're saying. The A-10 was designed to get in too
> > >close for comfort as far as other aircraft are concerned. It can do all
> > >most
> > >
> > >any thing, except go fast, and be a fighter. The A-6 was retired to
> >early
> > >as well. Some of the guys that flew the A-6 with my dad in the Navy,
> >that
> > >are flying the hornet, said that the Navy is now regretting them
> >retiering
> > >the ol intruder. By the way, my dad was in VA-128 (golden intruders)
>and
> > >VA-75 (sunday punchers). Take care. Maybe the hog will still be around
> >for
> > >a
> > >
> > >while longer. It could be the next B-52.
> > >Jonas
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Chris Crowley" <ccrowley@mccrowley.com>
> > > >Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> > > >To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> > > >Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] F-16 parts
> > > >Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 05:36:07 -0500
> > > >
> > > >Jonus,
> > > >I A-10 has no equivalent now or in the future. It is essentially a
>tank
> > > >buster designed around that 30mm monster canon. It seems to me that
>the
> > > >F-16
> > > >has range and carry limitations as compared to the F-15E (which also
> >has
> > >no
> > > >equal in the western world). However, It does carry bombs and does
>CAS,
> > > >perhaps not as well as the A-10, but it does that role as well as
>many
> > > >others. The JSF will replace the conventional Hornet and work
> >alongside
> > > >the
> > > >Super SIZED Hornet (which replaces the F-14 <GRIN>) until it retires.
> > > >
> > > >v/r
> > > >
> > > >Chris Crowley
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org
> > > >[mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org]On Behalf Of Jonas Frazier
> > > >Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 9:18 PM
> > > >To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> > > >Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] F-16 parts
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >I think that the ol' hog can't easily be replaced. My dad went to
>A-10
> > > >flight school, didn't graduate for reasons unknown, but he said that
> >the
> > > >hog was a rugged and very reliable attack. The hog is like the
>panavia
> > > >Tornado. Both excellent aircraft in their roles. Besides, the F-16
> > >wasn't
> > > >designed to have bombs strapped under it's wings, can't opperate
>from
> > > >unconventional airfiels, or can't do close air support.
> > > >I know the Navy will be getting them. I heard the wan't to use 'em to
> >use
> > > >along side with the Hornet. It's just like the A-6, when the F/A-18
> >was
> > > >entered into service. Thanks.
> > > >Jonas
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "Brian Sikkema" <hangr18@hotmail.com>
> > > > >Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> > > > >To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> > > > >Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] F-16 parts
> > > > >Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 02:07:35 +0000
> > > > >
> > > > >As I understand it, JSF will be replacing the F-16, A-10, & AV-8B
> >(And
> > > > >possibly others, don't know about Navy so much). F-22 will be
> >replacing
> > > >the
> > > > >Beagles. Of course this is all in the very distant future, in
>reality
> > >it
> > > > >will take a long time to phase out all of these aircraft, and I'm
> > >really
> > > > >sceptical that the JSF can take over the A-10's role.
> > > > >
> > > > >Brian
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >----Original Message Follows----
> > > > >From: "Jonas Frazier" <spitpilot40@hotmail.com>
> > > > >Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> > > > >To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> > > > >Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] F-16 parts
> > > > >Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 17:58:50 -0700
> > > > >
> > > > >Is the USAF replacing them with the F-22s', or the JSF (Joint
>Strike
> > > > >Fighter)? I think that the JSF is the first fighter since the F-4
>to
> >be
> > > > >used by the Navy, Marines, and Air Force. Thanks.
> > > > >Jonas
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>From: Roy Coates <roy@flightlab.liv.ac.uk>
> > > > >>Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> > > > >>To: Simpits <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> > > > >>Subject: [simpits-tech] F-16 parts
> > > > >>Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 00:47:50 +0000 (GMT)
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Given that the USAF are using F-16's now for target practice,
>don't
> > > >bother
> > > > >>with Ebay for parts.. just hang around the air-bases with a
>hard-hat
> > >and
> > >
> > > >a
> > > > >>large basket :)
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Roy.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
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