[simpits-tech] Control Forces.

Ben Jones simpits-tech@simpits.org
Sat, 28 Sep 2002 09:03:57 +0800


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Ahh....=20
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I couldnot answer your question  directly  i have not flown F4's nor =
even seen a real one !!
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i would imagine that the F4 has hydraulic controlled controll surfaces =
... im just guessing
if they were  hydraulic controlled controll surfaces i dont know what =
feed back you get if any
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on GA airfraft eg Cessna 172's  the faster you go the heaver the =
controlls get , but at higher speeds you only need to use little =
controll inputs , other wise if you fly the aircraft as you would on the =
stall but at high speed your in for a verry rough and unnerving ride..
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sorry cant answer your question fully i'm not a jet jockey
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BEN   JONES=20
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-----Original Message-----
From: Brian West. [mailto:bcw@palma.infotelecom.es]
Sent: Saturday, 28 September 2002 3:51 AM
To: Simpits-tech.
Subject: [simpits-tech] Control Forces.


Hi,  I've got a couple of questions I would like to ask John P. Miguez =
and Ben Jones.=20
On F4s and other fighters of that time, do the control forces increase =
with air speed? Also what degree of feedback do you get on the stick =
from buffeting etc.
Thanks,    Brian West.


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couldnot answer your question&nbsp; directly&nbsp; i have not flown F4's =
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even seen a real one !!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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would imagine that the F4 has hydraulic controlled controll surfaces ... =
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they were&nbsp;&nbsp;hydraulic controlled controll surfaces i dont know =
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feed back you get if any</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2>on GA=20
airfraft eg Cessna 172's&nbsp; the faster you go the heaver the =
controlls get ,=20
but at higher speeds you only need to use little controll inputs , other =
wise if=20
you fly the aircraft as you would on the stall but at high speed your in =
for a=20
verry rough and unnerving ride..</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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cant answer your question fully i'm not a jet jockey</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>BEN&nbsp;&nbsp; JONES </FONT><BR><FONT =
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  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Brian West.=20
  [mailto:bcw@palma.infotelecom.es]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, 28 =
September 2002=20
  3:51 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Simpits-tech.<BR><B>Subject:</B> [simpits-tech] =
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  Forces.<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Hi,&nbsp; I've got a couple of =
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  would like to ask John P. Miguez and Ben Jones. </FONT></DIV>
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time, do the=20
  control forces increase with air speed? Also what degree of feedback =
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  get on the stick from buffeting etc.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Thanks,&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Brian=20
  West.</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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