[simpits-tech] Hello

Chris Woodul simpits-tech@simpits.org
Sun, 20 Oct 2002 20:34:40 -0500


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Why have two pipes when one will do...????
because sometimes One becomes none!
ahhh the genisis of a lawn dart scenario!

Dont worry. I am a Viper Fan too ( will be doing up a Block 50 actual =
cockpit like my other cockpits soon)
Chris Woodul

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Steve Wilson=20
  To: simpits-tech@simpits.org=20
  Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 8:12 PM
  Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] Hello


  Yup.  Andy Brickly hasn't been seen in this forum, at least......  =
NESN maybe....  ;-)


  Single pipe - single faucet  --- one engined jet.   Generally, in this =
group, a Viper.  Especially since the webmaster owns the front half of a =
Real World (tm) F-15C.  Why have two pipes when one will do...????


  Steve

  The New Hampshire One....=20
  --=20
  Steve Wilson, mafsix@attbi.com on 10/20/2002=20


  On Sun, 20 Oct 2002 20:40:27 -0400, Craig Rochester wrote:
  ::::
  ::::   Hi Brian,
  ::::
  ::::   Then call me Brick, I'm sure there're aren't many guys around
  ::::   he with that
  ::::   nickname. :)
  ::::
  ::::   Regarding helmet force cueing a.k.a. helmet loading:
  ::::   http://pages.zdnet.com/johncraigrochester/vrvision/id12.html
  ::::   Kind of a
  ::::   force-feedback helmet.
  ::::
  ::::   Thanks for the warm welcome.
  ::::
  ::::    Craig
  ::::
  ::::   BTW, What's a "single-pipe"?
  ::::
  ::::   -----Original Message-----
  ::::   From:        simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org =
[mailto:simpits-tech-
  ::::   admin@simpits.org]
  ::::   On Behalf Of Brian Sikkema
  ::::   Sent:        Sunday, October 20, 2002 2:13 PM
  ::::   To:        simpits-tech@simpits.org
  ::::   Subject:        Re: [simpits-tech] Hello
  ::::
  ::::   Oh blast, another Craig! I've enough trouble keeping the
  ::::   Steves apart! Sure
  ::::   you don't want to go by the name "Robin?" I'm pretty sure we
  ::::   don't have one
  ::::   of those yet... ;)
  ::::
  ::::   All kidding aside, welcome aboard. I'm sure you'll be
  ::::   wondering just why in
  ::::   the world you joined this group in a short amount of time.
  ::::   Once that feeling
  ::::   passes, there generally is a good amount of info to be had
  ::::   here. :) Ok, so I
  ::::   can't really put ALL kidding aside, it isn't my nature. But
  ::::   anyway, sounds
  ::::   like you have some really interesting/usefull stuff going
  ::::   there. Another
  ::::   single-pipe for Gene to pick on! Hehehe. But don't let him get
  ::::   to you too
  ::::   much, if he wants to trust a fatigue-cracked titanium tennis
  ::::   court, he can
  ::::   go right ahead! ;)
  ::::
  ::::   Quick question, what do you mean by "helmet force cueing?"
  ::::   Sounds
  ::::   interesting to me...
  ::::
  ::::   Again, welcome aboard, I hope you can maintain your sanity
  ::::   long enough to
  ::::   get some good info!
  ::::
  ::::   Brian
  ::::
  ::::
  ::::
  ::::
  ::::
  ::::   ----Original Message Follows----
  ::::   From: "Craig Rochester" <johncraigroch@msn.com>
  ::::   Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
  ::::   To: "Simpits-Tech@Simpits. Org" <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
  ::::   Subject: [simpits-tech] Hello
  ::::   Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 13:29:02 -0400
  ::::
  ::::   Now that I figured out how to post messages here,  I'll
  ::::   introduce myself:
  ::::
  ::::   Craig "Bricklayer" Rochester
  ::::   Born 1955
  ::::   Happily married(except for this hobby :)), I child and a mutt
  ::::   Boston(Jamaica Plain) Massachusetts- immigrated to People's
  ::::   Republic of
  ::::   Massachusetts 1988
  ::::   Falcon4 and Battle of Britain enthusiast
  ::::   Mechanical Engineer- process design for Pharmaceutical
  ::::   Manufacturing
  ::::
  ::::   I'd like to say thank you to the people who administer this
  ::::   list (geneb?).
  ::::   This is the best forum I've seen for fight sim pit building,
  ::::   great
  ::::   discussions!
  ::::
  ::::   I've got a few irons in the fire for this hobby. I'm
  ::::   interested in improving
  ::::   the sensory experience of simulated flight and air combat. My
  ::::   areas of
  ::::   interest are:
  ::::
  ::::   * Head-tracking interface to Falcon4(working prototype)
  ::::   * HMD - I hate staring at a monitor(design 80%)
  ::::   * LVDT force based mod for Cougar stick(electronics working
  ::::   with crude test
  ::::   rig)
  ::::   * Force feedback stick(like 100 lbs force) for WWII prop
  ::::   sims(on the drawing
  ::::   board)
  ::::   * G-Suit regulator/interface to Falcon4 (completed)
  ::::   * Helmet force cuing(completed 1 axis test rig)
  ::::   * G-seat roll, pitch, and yaw force cueing , maybe a motion
  ::::   platform if I
  ::::   live that long :)
  ::::   * VR gloves for a clickable 3D cockpit(waiting for a clickable
  ::::   3D pit)
  ::::   * ...and other wacky stuff
  ::::
  ::::   I've got a web page about it:
  ::::   http://pages.zdnet.com/johncraigrochester
  ::::   (sorely needs updating)
  ::::
  ::::   I'll be looking forward to the discussions here and hope I can
  ::::   add something
  ::::   to this community.
  ::::
  ::::   Regards,
  ::::
  ::::   Craig
  ::::
  ::::
  ::::
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<DIV>Why have two pipes when one will do...????<BR>because sometimes One =
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none!</DIV>
<DIV>ahhh the genisis of a lawn dart scenario!</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Dont worry. I am a Viper Fan too ( will be doing up a Block 50 =
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cockpit like my other cockpits soon)</DIV>
<DIV>Chris Woodul</DIV>
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  <A title=3Dmafsix@attbi.com href=3D"mailto:mafsix@attbi.com">Steve =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, October 20, 2002 =
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  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [simpits-tech] =
Hello</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Yup.&nbsp; Andy Brickly hasn't been seen in this forum, at=20
  least......&nbsp; NESN maybe....&nbsp; ;-)<BR></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Single pipe - single faucet&nbsp; --- one engined =
jet.&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Generally, in this group, a Viper.&nbsp; Especially since the =
webmaster owns=20
  the front half of a Real World (tm) F-15C.&nbsp; Why have two pipes =
when one=20
  will do...????<BR></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Steve<BR></DIV>
  <DIV>The New Hampshire One.... <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>-- =
<BR>Steve=20
  Wilson, mafsix@attbi.com on 10/20/2002 <BR></FONT><BR><BR>On Sun, 20 =
Oct 2002=20
  20:40:27 -0400, Craig Rochester wrote:<BR>::::<BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>::::=20
  &nbsp; Hi Brian,</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>::::</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; Then call me Brick, I'm sure there're =
aren't many=20
  guys around</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; he with=20
  that</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; nickname. =
:)</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>::::</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; =
Regarding helmet=20
  force cueing a.k.a. helmet loading:</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp;=20
  <A=20
  =
href=3D"http://pages.zdnet.com/johncraigrochester/vrvision/id12.html">htt=
p://pages.zdnet.com/johncraigrochester/vrvision/id12.html</A></FONT><BR><=
FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; Kind of a</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp;=20
  force-feedback helmet.</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>::::</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; Thanks for the warm =
welcome.</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>::::</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp;=20
  &nbsp;Craig</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>::::</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; BTW, What's a =
"single-pipe"?</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>::::</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; =
-----Original=20
  Message-----</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; From:&nbsp; =
&nbsp;=20
  &nbsp; &nbsp; simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org [<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:simpits-tech">mailto:simpits-tech</A>-</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; admin@simpits.org]</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; On Behalf Of Brian Sikkema</FONT><BR><FONT =

  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; Sent:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Sunday, =
October 20,=20
  2002 2:13 PM</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; To:&nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp;=20
  &nbsp; simpits-tech@simpits.org</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: =
&nbsp;=20
  Subject:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Re: [simpits-tech] =
Hello</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>::::</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; Oh =
blast, another=20
  Craig! I've enough trouble keeping the</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>::::=20
  &nbsp; Steves apart! Sure</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; =
you don't=20
  want to go by the name "Robin?" I'm pretty sure we</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; don't have one</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>::::=20
  &nbsp; of those yet... ;)</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>::::</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; All kidding aside, welcome aboard. I'm =
sure you'll=20
  be</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; wondering just why=20
  in</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; the world you joined =
this group=20
  in a short amount of time.</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; =
Once that=20
  feeling</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; passes, there =
generally is a=20
  good amount of info to be had</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: =
&nbsp; here.=20
  :) Ok, so I</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; can't really =
put ALL=20
  kidding aside, it isn't my nature. But</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>::::=20
  &nbsp; anyway, sounds</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; like =
you have=20
  some really interesting/usefull stuff going</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>::::=20
  &nbsp; there. Another</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; =
single-pipe=20
  for Gene to pick on! Hehehe. But don't let him get</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; to you too</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp;=20
  much, if he wants to trust a fatigue-cracked titanium =
tennis</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; court, he can</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>::::=20
  &nbsp; go right ahead! ;)</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>::::</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; Quick question, what do you mean by =
"helmet force=20
  cueing?"</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; =
Sounds</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; interesting to me...</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>::::</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; =
Again, welcome=20
  aboard, I hope you can maintain your sanity</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>::::=20
  &nbsp; long enough to</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; get =
some good=20
  info!</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>::::</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>::::=20
  &nbsp; Brian</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>::::</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>::::</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>::::</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>::::</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>::::</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; ----Original Message =
Follows----</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; From: "Craig Rochester"=20
  &lt;johncraigroch@msn.com&gt;</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: =
&nbsp;=20
  Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp;=20
  To: "Simpits-Tech@Simpits. Org"=20
  &lt;simpits-tech@simpits.org&gt;</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: =
&nbsp;=20
  Subject: [simpits-tech] Hello</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: =
&nbsp; Date:=20
  Sun, 20 Oct 2002 13:29:02 -0400</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>::::</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; Now =
that I=20
  figured out how to post messages here, &nbsp;I'll</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; introduce myself:</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>::::</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; Craig =

  "Bricklayer" Rochester</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; =
Born=20
  1955</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; Happily =
married(except for this=20
  hobby :)), I child and a mutt</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: =
&nbsp;=20
  Boston(Jamaica Plain) Massachusetts- immigrated to =
People's</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; Republic of</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>::::=20
  &nbsp; Massachusetts 1988</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; =
Falcon4=20
  and Battle of Britain enthusiast</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: =
&nbsp;=20
  Mechanical Engineer- process design for Pharmaceutical</FONT><BR><FONT =

  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; Manufacturing</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>::::</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; I'd =
like to say=20
  thank you to the people who administer this</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>::::=20
  &nbsp; list (geneb?).</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; This =
is the=20
  best forum I've seen for fight sim pit building,</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; great</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: =
&nbsp;=20
  discussions!</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>::::</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; I've got a few irons in the fire for this =
hobby.=20
  I'm</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; interested in=20
  improving</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; the sensory =
experience of=20
  simulated flight and air combat. My</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp;=20
  areas of</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; interest=20
  are:</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>::::</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>::::=20
  &nbsp; * Head-tracking interface to Falcon4(working =
prototype)</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; * HMD - I hate staring at a monitor(design =

  80%)</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; * LVDT force based =
mod for=20
  Cougar stick(electronics working</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: =
&nbsp;=20
  with crude test</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; =
rig)</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; * Force feedback stick(like 100 lbs force) =
for WWII=20
  prop</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; sims(on the=20
  drawing</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; =
board)</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; * G-Suit regulator/interface to Falcon4=20
  (completed)</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; * Helmet force =

  cuing(completed 1 axis test rig)</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: =
&nbsp; *=20
  G-seat roll, pitch, and yaw force cueing , maybe a =
motion</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; platform if I</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>::::=20
  &nbsp; live that long :)</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; * =
VR gloves=20
  for a clickable 3D cockpit(waiting for a clickable</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; 3D pit)</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; *=20
  ...and other wacky stuff</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>::::</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; I've got a web page about =
it:</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; <A=20
  =
href=3D"http://pages.zdnet.com/johncraigrochester">http://pages.zdnet.com=
/johncraigrochester</A></FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; (sorely needs updating)</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>::::</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; I'll =
be looking=20
  forward to the discussions here and hope I can</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; add something</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>::::=20
  &nbsp; to this community.</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>::::</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; Regards,</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>::::</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp;=20
  Craig</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>::::</FONT><BR><FONT=20
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