[simpits-tech] RE: MFD shared memory support
Joseph Fagner
simpits-tech@simpits.org
Thu, 17 Oct 2002 14:38:07 -0500
> Nice, nice work, Erwin. Way to go!! Don't shoot me,
> but does that include the HUD?
>
If they implement the full code you get 2x MFD, RWR and HUD image.
> Suggestion for the status update problems. How about a
> one pixel drawing for each of the offending elements in
> all views? That way F4 would be tricked into updating
> the gear indicator lights whenever they changed, and the
> one pixel could change from black to black, or
> whatever. A work-around.
Erwin, there have been rumblings about G2i not having sufficient funding
for OIR and Falcon V. I hate reading stuff that a lot of times amounts
to nothing more that rumors, but I am getting a bit nervous in the fact
that I am laying out some large amounts of cash for a simulator that
will ultimately be dependant on software available to run it. I would
love to have new campaigns, graphics and all that, but more so I would
like to have cockpit functionality (i.e. MFD, RWR etc. which after
talking with some other folks is possible in Falcon 4.0, but .exe code
altering is necessary, which currently is not permitted). What light
can/are you able to shed on this?
Also, I can't for the life of me figure out the exact meaning of SWMBO.
Anyone?
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 07:31:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: joab ryan <joab_ryan@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Mobile sim
To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
Inventor, such a great program (what version do you
have?)
--- Johan_Nauwelaertz_de_Agé <johan.nauwa@gavle.to>
wrote:
> Not sure yet, I'm still collecting parts (got the
> caravan and yokes + computers and monitors)
> Will continue to work in Autodesk Inventor until it
> looks and works OK, then the funny part begins.
>
> Johan
>
>
> Johan,
>
> Sounds like an interesting plan. What is your main
> goal?
>
> SC
>
=====
Joab Ryan
Mechanical CAD Designer,
Network Administrator &
Military Aircraft Sim Builder
North Texas USA
http://www.360-designs.net
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Message: 9
From: "Brian West." <bcw@palma.infotelecom.es>
To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Looking for some sounds...
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 18:18:11 +0200
Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
Hi Justin,
I understand what you are saying here and quite agree about physical
damage
etc. I've probably tried about six different setups of woofers and bass
shakers but have never got what I'd call a realistic result.
Speaker enclosure design is one of those black arts as far as I can
see.
The latest incarnation of the pit which is under construction now
has
one Aura bass shaker under the C of G ( forward edge of the seat), and a
second one under the pedal box. Plus a pair of 100w woofers on the seat
sides. The cental bass shaker has an adjustable mounting so the contact
with
the (tiled) floor can be altered. The monitor which forms the instrument
panel is on isolation mounts, so shoud be O.K.
I'm hoping this is going to do the trick.
Does anybody on the list know anything about heavier duty
transducers? I
reckon a four point mounting at each corner would be pretty good.
I visited Fantasy of Flight in Florida early this year and they had a
complete WW11 bomber fuselage vibrating properly with engines, so the
gear
exists.
Thanks Alan for the story about Disney Animatronics, reminds you the
world didn't begin with the PC. Regards , Brian West.
p.s. If any one has bought a V.R.F. seat cushion I would be very
interested
in hearing your opinion.
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From: Justin Messenger <jjmessenger@yahoo.com>
To: Simpits-tech@simpits.org <Simpits-tech@simpits.org>
Date: 15 October 2002 21:28
Subject: [simpits-tech] Looking for some sounds...
>Me thinks it is a lot more practical to simply build
>some transducers into your pit. When you touch down,
>get hit by enemy fire, or kick in afterburner you know
>it. _TRUST ME_ I know there are a bunch of other
>people on this list who can second that from their own
>experience.
>
>My first experience with transducers was in Kiko's
>cockpit.
>http://www.picornell.net/images/Viper1/viper%201%20homepage.htm
>
>Everytime I kicked in burner I about jumped out the
>pit from surprise! I was not used to that kind of
>feedback at all and had a computer subwoofer in my
>pit. He has a little transducer right in the back of
>his real ejection seat and it has some punch.
>
>I've since been in other pits and the ones without the
>transducers were boring. I now have two for my
>cockpit.
>Marv built a subwoofer box into the rear of his
>cockpit behind the ejection seat. That was very
>effective too, but takes more work to construct and
>the overall sound volume is much louder per the same
>amount of feedback.
>
>out of balance motors will shake the crap out of your
>pit or make it feel like a massage chair(been there
>done that). I dont think in the long term you will
>want anything "banging your pit" either. It tears
>things up (electronics) if not designed properly.
>Of course the VRF feedback seat would be the best way
>to go. That is a case where motors are preferable.
>
>Prohm once tested a sound trigger that operated off of
>the "g grunts" in F4.0, The idea being it could drive
>a g suit.
>Just my 2 Cents.
>Justin
>
>-------------------------------
>Touch down. You could have a pair of out of balance
>motors laterally
>either side of the cockpit to simulate the sort of
>shimmy you get on touch
>down.
>Enemy Fire. How about two or three solenoids banging
>on the rear bulhead
>to simulate incoming fire. It would be sure to sharpen
>you up.
>
>
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 12:19:31 -0400
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] The Cougar Has landed - Mating Season
From: Marv De Beque <mdebeque@woh.rr.com>
To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
No. I have designed a true Force Sensor system for my replica F-16 side
stick base. There are no "moving" parts in this transducer.
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> From: Thomas Nepveu <tnepveu@nordnet.fr>
> Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 15:14:47 +0200
> To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] The Cougar Has landed - Mating Season
>
> Marv,
>
> First, since english is not my native language, I may have not
> understand what you say exactly
>
> My understanding is that you will use a CTS microstick for your no
> movement base. If it is right, you can interface gluelessly your mod
> with the Cougar. Same types of pots (CTS series 251), same range
(100K),
> same pinout.
>
> BTW all pots in the Cougar is CTS (and C&K as a second supplier for
RNG
> and ANT)
>
> Regards
> Thomas
>
> Marv De Beque wrote:
>>
>> I stole a quick look inside the grip. There is good news and bad
news:
>>
>> First the Bad News:
>>
>> The screw on gray collar must go. In fact, so too, the shaft that it
>> attaches to on the grip side. The screw on collar is too big for a
real
>> base. Also, the mounting angle is wrong. The Cougar sits strait up
off its
>> mount. The real grip leans forward 13 degrees.
>>
>> I will need to make a coupler that adapts the Cougar grip to my base
and
>> corrects the mounting angle. This will add a little to the price of
the
>> base, but not much.
>>
>> The user will need to open his grip to make the mod (4 screws). Once
made,
>> it will not fit the original base unless you remove my adapter and
reinstall
>> the original parts. At least it is not a permanent mod.
>>
>> Some Good News:
>>
>> I can make an adapter that is easy for the user to install.
Fortunately,
>> Thrustmaster used a tiny plug and socket on the inside PC Board for
the
>> wires, so you can unplug their mount and plug mine in. That means no
>> soldering required! There is one screw you need to unscrew inside
the grip.
>> It is easy, even for the mechanically declined.
>>
>> Right now it looks like I will make an extension cable to plug into
the
>> Cougar base. This will allow the user to keep his software the same.
I
>> don't know how I will interface the output of the force sensor to the
>> Cougar's base, if at all. If I can, it will require a mod to the
base. I
>> am steering away from that idea. You may need to use the game port
or EPIC
>> for the force transducer interface.
>>
>> All in all, it is good news for Cougar owners.
>>
>> If you are thinking about a Cougar, I wouldn't hesitate to get one.
>>
>> For those guys that have the real grip and base, hang in there.
After I
>> finish my stick base, I'll be building am interface card that will
allow a
>> real F-16 base and grip to work with the PC game port or EPIC. ;-)
>>
>> Marv
>>
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Message: 11
From: "Albert Yung" <shizznit@ihug.com.au>
To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] MFD shared memory support
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 02:31:31 +1000
Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
Erwin,
I was reading the topic "the cougar has landed"...then suddenly saw your
topic, I didnt believe it at first sight of your topic...however, I cant
believe this is happening, a fantasy has become a possible reality
(Providing G2I will include the code in the future).
My question to you is Erwin, is this related to F4 SP releases? If Sp4
is
held up due to the implementation of the MFD data extraction. Then it
makes
me feel far better having to wait this long but being able to maximise
the
cockpit usage to fly realistically i.e. head down too look at my
instrucment
and MFDs!
I m EXCITED!
Albert
Sydney Australia
P.S. I think Erwin has just made Sainthood for created a Miracle with
MFDs
support and overall F4 glass project :)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Erwin Neyt" <rwntn@hvv.nl>
To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 10:09 PM
Subject: [simpits-tech] MFD shared memory support
> MFD data extraction is a fact. Don't ask me when it will be available,
> that's up to G2I. But they are really exited, so there is a good
chance
they
> will include it in a future release.
>
> G2I will also welcome my bugfixes for sh.mem. code.
>
> bugs found so far:
>
> - Fuel qnty values not updated if gauge not drawn on screen
> - Gear handle light value not updated if not drawn
>
> If you know of any other bugs, please let me know!
>
> Erwin.
>
>
>
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Message: 12
From: "Andreas Fransson" <andreas.fransson@post.utfors.se>
To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Mobile sim
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 18:29:49 +0200
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Way late response, but still .... that's a very cool idea!!
Andreas
http://valhallainc.no-ip.com (new addy!)
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Subject: [simpits-tech] Mobile sim
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Message: 13
From: Erwin Neyt <rwntn@hvv.nl>
To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] MFD shared memory support
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 20:11:50 +0200
Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
Albert,
> I was reading the topic "the cougar has landed"...then suddenly saw
your
> topic, I didnt believe it at first sight of your topic...however, I
cant
> believe this is happening, a fantasy has become a possible reality
> (Providing G2I will include the code in the future).
Nice things are happening, indeed.
> My question to you is Erwin, is this related to F4 SP releases?
No it is not. SP4 is a community data-only release. Since this is code
related we need to wait until G2I releases a future version.
> I m EXCITED!
So am I :)
Erwin.
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 14:03:19 -0500
From: Mike Williams <mikewilliams3@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] MFD shared memory support
To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
Very good news, Erwin you are much appreciated by me.
Using your software and its great, MFD will be the icing on the cake.
-----Original Message-----
From: simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org
[mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org]On Behalf Of Erwin Neyt
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 7:09 AM
To: 'simpits-tech@simpits.org'
Subject: [simpits-tech] MFD shared memory support
MFD data extraction is a fact. Don't ask me when it will be available,
that's up to G2I. But they are really exited, so there is a good chance
they
will include it in a future release.
G2I will also welcome my bugfixes for sh.mem. code.
bugs found so far:
- Fuel qnty values not updated if gauge not drawn on screen
- Gear handle light value not updated if not drawn
If you know of any other bugs, please let me know!
Erwin.
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