[simpits-tech] The Cougar Has landed - Mating Season

Erwin Neyt simpits-tech@simpits.org
Thu, 17 Oct 2002 15:53:25 +0200


Thomas,

You understood wrong. The microstick solution was Marv's first prototype.
The 'new' one does not use a stick pot but transducers. (If *I* understood
_right_:)

Erwin.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas Nepveu [mailto:tnepveu@nordnet.fr] 
> Sent: donderdag 17 oktober 2002 15:15
> To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] The Cougar Has landed - Mating Season
> 
> 
> Marv,
> 
> First, since english is not my native language, I may have 
> not understand what you say exactly
> 
> My understanding is that you will use a CTS microstick for 
> your no movement base. If it is right, you can interface 
> gluelessly your mod with the Cougar. Same types of pots (CTS 
> series 251), same range (100K), same pinout.
> 
> BTW all pots in the Cougar is CTS (and C&K as a second 
> supplier for RNG and ANT)
> 
> Regards
> Thomas
> 
> Marv De Beque wrote:
> > 
> > I stole a quick look inside the grip.  There is good news and bad 
> > news:
> > 
> > First the Bad News:
> > 
> > The screw on gray collar must go.  In fact, so too, the 
> shaft that it 
> > attaches to on the grip side.  The screw on collar is too big for a 
> > real base.  Also, the mounting angle is wrong.  The Cougar 
> sits strait 
> > up off its mount.  The real grip leans forward 13 degrees.
> > 
> > I will need to make a coupler that adapts the Cougar grip 
> to my base 
> > and corrects the mounting angle.  This will add a little to 
> the price 
> > of the base, but not much.
> > 
> > The user will need to open his grip to make the mod (4 
> screws).  Once 
> > made, it will not fit the original base unless you remove 
> my adapter 
> > and reinstall the original parts.  At least it is not a 
> permanent mod.
> > 
> > Some Good News:
> > 
> > I can make an adapter that is easy for the user to install.  
> > Fortunately, Thrustmaster used a tiny plug and socket on 
> the inside PC 
> > Board for the wires, so you can unplug their mount and plug 
> mine in.  
> > That means no soldering required!  There is one screw you need to 
> > unscrew inside the grip. It is easy, even for the mechanically 
> > declined.
> > 
> > Right now it looks like I will make an extension cable to plug into 
> > the Cougar base.  This will allow the user to keep his software the 
> > same.  I don't know how I will interface the output of the force 
> > sensor to the Cougar's base, if at all.  If I can, it will 
> require a 
> > mod to the base.  I am steering away from that idea.  You 
> may need to 
> > use the game port or EPIC for the force transducer interface.
> > 
> > All in all, it is good news for Cougar owners.
> > 
> > If you are thinking about a Cougar, I wouldn't hesitate to get one.
> > 
> > For those guys that have the real grip and base, hang in 
> there.  After 
> > I finish my stick base, I'll be building am interface card 
> that will 
> > allow a real F-16 base and grip to work with the PC game 
> port or EPIC.  
> > ;-)
> > 
> > Marv
> > 
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