[simpits-tech] SP4
Brian Sikkema
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F15 vs F16, blah blah blah. Yer not a man until you sit in a tin can on top
of a ballistic missile - and land it! :)
Long live Mercury! *cackle*
Brian
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<div><FONT FACE=3D"Arial" SIZE=3D2>Sign me up for that one! FAr=
too many single faucet lazy boy jibes have come from that=
direction, methinks. Hehehe....</FONT><br></div>
<div> </div>
<FONT FACE=3D"Arial" SIZE=3D2></FONT><div><FONT FACE=3D"Arial"=
SIZE=3D2>Steve</FONT>
<br>
<FONT FACE=3D"Arial" SIZE=3D2>--
<br>
Steve Wilson, mafsix@attbi.com on 10/03/2002
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</FONT><br>
<br>
On Thu, 3 Oct 2002 22:51:03 +0100, Chris Carter wrote:<br>
::::<br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: No probs</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: </FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: I just live for the day=
when F4/OIR/V has a decent F15 addon</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: so we can test out Gene's=
theories;)</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: </FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: Chris</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: -----Original=
Message-----</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: From: Steve Wilson =
[<a=
href=3D"mailto:mafsix@attbi.com]">mailto:mafsix@attbi.com]</a></FO=
NT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: Sent: 03 October 2002=
22:32</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: To: =
simpits-tech@simpits.org</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: Subject: RE: [simpits-tech]=
SP4</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: Well, Chris, we sure=
can't feel sorry about that. We=
F-</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: 16 cockpit builders have gotten=
such an incredible chain of</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: superior mods already that it=
is almost unbelievable. All the</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: switchology, the=
shared memory data, not to mention the</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: realistic procedures, =
are all going to go into making one</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: heckuva completed project (one=
of these years!). With the</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: assurance of further data=
enhancements, we'll just have</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: more reasons to say=
"thanks," which probably hasn't been done</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: often =
enough. So... thanks, man!</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: </FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: Steve</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: --</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: Steve Wilson, mafsix@attbi.com=
on 10/03/2002</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: On Thu, 3 Oct 2002=
22:21:47 +0100, Chris Carter wrote:</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: ::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: H=
Steve</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#800000">:::: :::: =
</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: From the=
F4UT team yes.</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: ::::=
</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: Our=
agreement (which was extended by quite a =
bit</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: past the</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: original=
deadline) lasted until March after=
that</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: G2i started</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: developing=
their products. Of course their is =
heaps</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: more we</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: could have=
done to the code but to have the two=
</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: development</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#800000">:::: :::: =
streams going on at the same time on such a=
complex</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: piece =
of</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: coding=
was impractical from G2i's point of view as=
a</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: development=
house.</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: ::::=
</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: That's=
not the end as there is a lot of work =
going</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: on to</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: improve F4=
from the data side and some of=
the</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: projects will</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#800000">:::: :::: =
last some time eg flight models are being=
</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: continually</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: improved as=
new and more accurate data is found. Of</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: course</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#800000">:::: :::: =
there are the new theatres, hi res=
textures</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: improved =
weapons</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: data, updated=
airfields, new cockpits 2D and=
3D,</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: new and more</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#800000">:::: :::: =
detailed models, improved SAMs, improved ATO,=
more</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: trees,</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: more =
weapons, CTD fixes in the data etc etc etc.=
</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: Plenty =
to</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: look forward=
to and we're still discovering things</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: we can do</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: without =
modifying the core executable.</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: =
</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: ::::=
Later</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: ::::=
</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: =
</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: Chris=
"Washout" Carter</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: F4UT =
Management</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: =
-----Original Message-----</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: From:=
Steve Wilson [<a=
href=3D"mailto:mafsix@attbi.com]">mailto:mafsix@attbi.com]</a></FO=
NT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: Sent: 03=
October 2002 21:48</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: To:=
simpits-tech@simpits.org</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: =
Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] SP4</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: ::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: ::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: Hi=
Chris - Does this mean that we've=
seen the</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: end of</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#800000">:::: :::: =
exe mods? Has G2 closed the door to=
any future work</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: =
beyond</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: data =
changes?</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: ::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#800000">:::: :::: =
</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: =
Steve</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: --</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: Steve Wilson,=
mafsix@attbi.com on 10/03/2002</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: ::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: ::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: On Thu, 3=
Oct 2002 20:49:00 +0100, Chris=
Carter</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: wrote:</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: ::::=
::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: :::: =
Sorry guys but to implement differential=
toe</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: braking=
needs</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#800000">:::: :::: =
:::: exe work and that's=
prohibited.</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: :::: =
</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: :::: =
Having just learnt how=
to shave a few</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: pieces off=
my</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: TM</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: ::::=
Elite's to get the toe =
action working and</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: rig up</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: some =
pots</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: :::: =
I'm as eager to see this as =
anyone.</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: :::: =
</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: :::: =
I'm just gritting my teeth and bearing=
it</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: with =
my</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: ::::=
keyboard</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: ::::=
encoded switch =
setup.</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: :::: =
</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: :::: =
Later</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: ::::=
</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: :::: =
</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: :::: =
Chris "Washout"=
Carter</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#800000">:::: :::: =
:::: F4UT=
Management</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: ::::=
</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: ::::=
</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: ::::=
-----Original =
Message-----</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: :::: =
From: Steve Wilson=
</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: [<a=
href=3D"mailto:mafsix@attbi.com]">mailto:mafsix@attbi.com]</a></FO=
NT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: ::::=
Sent: 03 October 2002 16:35</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: ::::=
To: =
simpits-tech@simpits.o=
rg</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: ::::=
Subject: [simpits-tech] =
SP4</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: =
::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: ::::=
::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: ::::=
Hi Erwin -</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: ::::=
::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: ::::=
=
</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: :::: =
The flight data is=
nice - but when is</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: the UT=
going</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: to</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: ::::=
implement =
differential braking (if</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: ever)? It</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: seems that's=
a</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: ::::=
feature of concern to lots =
of folks,=
no</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: matter</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: what=
flavor</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#800000">:::: :::: =
:::: of rudder=
pedals they are =
considering. </FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: I=
know</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: it can=
be</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: ::::=
faked, but with the brakes being=
either</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: off or =
on,</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: that's=
only</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: ::::=
a =
kludge. What's really needed is</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: variable</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: ::::=
strength</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: ::::=
differential=
braking, but=
perhaps</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: that's asking a</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: ::::=
bit</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: :::: =
much...... ;-)</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#800000">:::: :::: =
::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: :::: :::: =
</FONT><br=
>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#800000">:::: :::: =
::::=
Steve</FONT><br>
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