[simpits-tech] Save the spare change...
Steve Wilson
simpits-tech@simpits.org
Thu, 3 Oct 2002 18:18:12 -0400
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<div><FONT FACE=3D"Arial" SIZE=3D2>Now there is a good=
question. It's hard to answer because I don't have them in=
the pit yet - but they are quite stiff. Desktop users will=
want to sit on something pretty solid, and have the pedals=
wedged against the wall. The brakes take a good deal to=
push 'em down too. That said, I don't think they are quite=
up to those numbers, but I'll revisit the question after I get=
them mounted. Maybe this weekend.</FONT><br></div>
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Steve</FONT>
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<FONT FACE=3D"Arial" SIZE=3D2>--
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Steve Wilson, mafsix@attbi.com on 10/03/2002
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On Thu, 03 Oct 2002 17:43:39 -0400, Marv De Beque wrote:<br>
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<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: Real pedals require about 100=
lbs. to push the pedal 0.600" in</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: any one</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: direction (left or=
right).</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: Do these pedals have the same=
force requirements?</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: Oh, toe brakes require 40 to 45=
lbs to fully depress.</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: I am curious if they captured=
that aspect of the design?</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: Marv</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: --</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > From: Steve Wilson=
<mafsix@attbi.com></FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > Reply-To:=
simpits-tech@simpits.org</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002=
17:00:47 -0400</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > To:=
<simpits-tech@simpits.org></FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > Subject: Re:=
[simpits-tech] Save the spare change...</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: ></FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > Mr. Brown came today.=
Hard to describe the RealSimulator</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: rudder pedals</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > without a mile long=
string of superlatives. You get every</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: penny's worth of</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > your investment.=
The absolute Cadillac / Rolls Royce / BMW</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: / Ferrari of</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > controllers.=
They even stuck in spare pots, a metric hex</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: wrench set and even</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > four (five?) regular=
metric wrenches. Downers - yeah, the</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: temporary hand</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > brake thingie to=
manipulate the adjuster is a bit of a</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: kludge, but it=
works.</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > (T'is a pretty bit of=
machining, tho) And there aren't any</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: instructions, but</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > that's not really=
that big of a deal just yet. Still need</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: to plug these into</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > my Cougar, which is=
in pieces at the moment whilst I size up</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: a variant of Mr.</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > Marv's special FLCS=
handgrip mount. So it will be a while</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: before I can use</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > them - but I couldn't=
ask for better motivation.</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: ></FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > Steve</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > --</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > Steve Wilson,=
mafsix@attbi.com on 10/03/2002</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: ></FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: ></FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > On Sat, 28 Sep 2002=
09:13:14 -0400, Marv De Beque wrote:</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > ::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > :::: They have=
done an outstanding job.</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > :::: =
--</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > ::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > ::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > :::: =
> From: Steve Wilson=
<mafsix@attbi.com></FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > :::: =
> Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > :::: =
> Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 08:55:50 -0400</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > :::: =
> To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org></FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > :::: =
> Subject: [simpits-tech] Save the spare=
change...</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > :::: =
></FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > :::: =
> This one's for the F-16 builders.</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > :::: =
></FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > :::: =
> If you've broken down and gone to the edge, and=
now</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: have a</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > :::: =
HOTAS</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > :::: =
> Cougar to integrate into your cockpit, this is=
how</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: you</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > :::: finish=
the job</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > :::: =
> and jump off the cliff:</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > :::: =
></FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > :::: =
> <a=
href=3D"http://mafsix.freewebspace.com/rs_pedals.jpg">http://mafsi=
x.freewebspace.com/rs_pedals.jpg</a></FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > :::: =
></FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > :::: =
> Folks that have seen these via Frugalsworld=
are</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: already</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > :::: aware -=
the</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > :::: =
> delivered cost is well beyond what most folks=
would</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: pay for</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > :::: =
something</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > :::: =
> like this - something like 4-5x the bank=
account</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: hit of a</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > :::: =
Cougar.</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > :::: =
> But look at the freakin' detail!!! They look=
like</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: they were</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > :::: =
yanked</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > :::: =
> right out of a brand new Viper. S'cuse me=
-</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: delicately</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > :::: =
extracted. :)</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > :::: =
> And all ready to bolt to the deck of your F-16=
pit</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: and plug</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > :::: into=
the</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > :::: =
> Coug (and almost ready to the pedal=
adjustment</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: handle on</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > :::: your=
center</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > :::: =
> console!!)</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > :::: =
></FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > :::: =
> We followers of the immortal Electric Jet can't=
go</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: out and</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > :::: =
get</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > :::: =
> goodies like the whole front end of a DC-8,=
(Hi,</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: Justin!) or</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > :::: an=
F-15</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > :::: =
> (Hi, Gene!) or even the office deck of a 747=
(Hi,</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: Steve!),</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > :::: but=
then</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > :::: =
> again, it seems like the possibilites for=
growing</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: your own</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > :::: =
insanely</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > :::: =
> authentic F-16 cockpit are getting better all=
the</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: time. And</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > :::: =
SuperPak</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > :::: =
> 4 is on the horizon, now that the F4UT has had=
the</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: summer to</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > :::: =
> recooperate from SP3. Can it get any better=
for</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: the pointy</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > :::: =
nose</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: > :::: =
> drivers?!!?</FONT><br>
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></FONT><br>
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> Steve</FONT><br>
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></FONT><br>
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