[simpits-tech] SP4
Chris Carter
simpits-tech@simpits.org
Thu, 3 Oct 2002 22:51:03 +0100
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No probs
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I just live for the day when F4/OIR/V has a decent F15 addon so we can
test out Gene's theories;)
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Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Wilson [mailto:mafsix@attbi.com]
Sent: 03 October 2002 22:32
To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] SP4
Well, Chris, we sure can't feel sorry about that. We F-16 cockpit
builders have gotten such an incredible chain of superior mods already
that it is almost unbelievable. All the switchology, the shared memory
data, not to mention the realistic procedures, are all going to go into
making one heckuva completed project (one of these years!). With the
assurance of further data enhancements, we'll just have more reasons to
say "thanks," which probably hasn't been done often enough. So...
thanks, man!
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Steve
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Steve Wilson, mafsix@attbi.com on 10/03/2002=20
On Thu, 3 Oct 2002 22:21:47 +0100, Chris Carter wrote:
::::
:::: H Steve
:::: =20
:::: From the F4UT team yes.
:::: =20
:::: Our agreement (which was extended by quite a bit past the
:::: original deadline) lasted until March after that G2i started
:::: developing their products. Of course their is heaps more we
:::: could have done to the code but to have the two development
:::: streams going on at the same time on such a complex piece of
:::: coding was impractical from G2i's point of view as a
:::: development house.
:::: =20
:::: That's not the end as there is a lot of work going on to
:::: improve F4 from the data side and some of the projects will
:::: last some time eg flight models are being continually
:::: improved as new and more accurate data is found. Of course
:::: there are the new theatres, hi res textures improved weapons
:::: data, updated airfields, new cockpits 2D and 3D, new and more
:::: detailed models, improved SAMs, improved ATO, more trees,
:::: more weapons, CTD fixes in the data etc etc etc. Plenty to
:::: look forward to and we're still discovering things we can do
:::: without modifying the core executable.
:::: =20
:::: Later
:::: =20
:::: =20
:::: Chris "Washout" Carter
:::: F4UT Management
:::: -----Original Message-----
:::: From: Steve Wilson [ mailto:mafsix@attbi.com]
:::: Sent: 03 October 2002 21:48
:::: To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
:::: Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] SP4
::::
::::
:::: Hi Chris - Does this mean that we've seen the end of
:::: exe mods? Has G2 closed the door to any future work beyond
:::: data changes?
::::
:::: =20
:::: Steve
:::: --
:::: Steve Wilson, mafsix@attbi.com on 10/03/2002
::::
::::
:::: On Thu, 3 Oct 2002 20:49:00 +0100, Chris Carter wrote:
:::: ::::
:::: :::: Sorry guys but to implement differential toe
:::: braking needs
:::: :::: exe work and that's prohibited.
:::: :::: =20
:::: :::: Having just learnt how to shave a few pieces off my
:::: TM
:::: :::: Elite's to get the toe action working and rig up
:::: some pots
:::: :::: I'm as eager to see this as anyone.
:::: :::: =20
:::: :::: I'm just gritting my teeth and bearing it with my
:::: keyboard
:::: :::: encoded switch setup.
:::: :::: =20
:::: :::: Later
:::: :::: =20
:::: :::: =20
:::: :::: Chris "Washout" Carter
:::: :::: F4UT Management
:::: :::: =20
:::: :::: =20
:::: :::: -----Original Message-----
:::: :::: From: Steve Wilson [ mailto:mafsix@attbi.com]
:::: :::: Sent: 03 October 2002 16:35
:::: :::: To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
:::: :::: Subject: [simpits-tech] SP4
:::: ::::
:::: ::::
:::: :::: Hi Erwin -
:::: ::::
:::: :::: =20
:::: :::: The flight data is nice - but when is the UT going
:::: to
:::: :::: implement differential braking (if ever)? It
:::: seems that's a
:::: :::: feature of concern to lots of folks, no matter
:::: what flavor
:::: :::: of rudder pedals they are considering. I know
:::: it can be
:::: :::: faked, but with the brakes being either off or on,
:::: that's only
:::: :::: a kludge. What's really needed is variable
:::: strength
:::: :::: differential braking, but perhaps that's asking a
:::: bit
:::: :::: much...... ;-)
:::: ::::
:::: :::: =20
:::: :::: Steve
::::
::::
::::
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size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Steve Wilson=20
[mailto:mafsix@attbi.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 03 October 2002 =
22:32<BR><B>To:</B>=20
simpits-tech@simpits.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [simpits-tech]=20
SP4<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Well, Chris, we sure can't feel sorry =
about=20
that. We F-16 cockpit builders have gotten such an incredible =
chain of=20
superior mods already that it is almost unbelievable. All the=20
switchology, the shared memory data, not to mention the realistic =
procedures,=20
are all going to go into making one heckuva completed project (one of =
these=20
years!). With the assurance of further data enhancements, we'll =
just=20
have more reasons to say "thanks," which probably hasn't been done =
often=20
enough. So... thanks, man!</FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Steve</FONT><BR><FONT face=3DArial =
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<BR>Steve Wilson, mafsix@attbi.com on 10/03/2002 <BR></FONT><BR><BR>On =
Thu, 3=20
Oct 2002 22:21:47 +0100, Chris Carter wrote:<BR>::::<BR><FONT=20
color=3D#000080>:::: H Steve</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>::::=20
</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: From =
the F4UT=20
team yes.</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: =
</FONT><BR><FONT=20
color=3D#000080>:::: Our agreement (which was extended by =
quite a=20
bit past the</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: original =
deadline)=20
lasted until March after that G2i started</FONT><BR><FONT=20
color=3D#000080>:::: developing their products. Of course =
their is=20
heaps more we</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: could have =
done to the=20
code but to have the two development</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>::::=20
streams going on at the same time on such a complex piece=20
of</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: coding was =
impractical from=20
G2i's point of view as a</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: =
development=20
house.</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: =
</FONT><BR><FONT=20
color=3D#000080>:::: That's not the end as there is a lot =
of work=20
going on to</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: improve F4 =
from the data=20
side and some of the projects will</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>::::=20
last some time eg flight models are being=20
continually</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: improved =
as new=20
and more accurate data is found. Of course</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>::::=20
there are the new theatres, hi res textures improved=20
weapons</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: data, updated =
airfields, new=20
cockpits 2D and 3D, new and more</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>::::=20
detailed models, improved SAMs, improved ATO, more=20
trees,</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: more=20
weapons, CTD fixes in the data etc etc etc. =
Plenty=20
to</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: look forward to and =
we're still=20
discovering things we can do</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: =
without=20
modifying the core executable.</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>:::: =20
</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: =
Later</FONT><BR><FONT=20
color=3D#000080>:::: </FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>:::: =20
</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: Chris =
"Washout"=20
Carter</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: F4UT=20
Management</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: =20
-----Original Message-----</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: =
=20
From: Steve Wilson [<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:mafsix@attbi.com]">mailto:mafsix@attbi.com]</A></FONT><BR>=
<FONT=20
color=3D#000080>:::: Sent: 03 October 2002 =
21:48</FONT><BR><FONT=20
color=3D#000080>:::: To: =20
simpits-tech@simpits.org</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: =
=20
Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] SP4</FONT><BR><FONT=20
color=3D#000080>::::</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>::::</FONT><BR><FONT=20
color=3D#000080>:::: Hi Chris - Does =
this mean=20
that we've seen the end of</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>::::=20
exe mods? Has G2 closed the door to any future work =
=20
beyond</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: data=20
changes?</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>::::</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>::::=20
</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: =
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Steve</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: --</FONT><BR><FONT=20
color=3D#000080>:::: Steve Wilson, mafsix@attbi.com on=20
10/03/2002</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>::::</FONT><BR><FONT=20
color=3D#000080>::::</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: On =
Thu, 3 =20
Oct 2002 20:49:00 +0100, Chris Carter wrote:</FONT><BR><FONT=20
color=3D#000080>:::: ::::</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: =
::::=20
Sorry guys but to implement differential =
toe</FONT><BR><FONT=20
color=3D#000080>:::: braking needs</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>::::=20
:::: exe work and that's =20
prohibited.</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: =
::::=20
</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: =
::::=20
Having just learnt how to shave a few =
pieces=20
off my</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: TM</FONT><BR><FONT=20
color=3D#000080>:::: :::: Elite's to get =
the toe=20
action working and rig up</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: =
some=20
pots</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: ::::=20
I'm as eager to see this as =20
anyone.</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: ::::=20
</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: ::::=20
I'm just gritting my teeth and bearing it with =
=20
my</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: =
keyboard</FONT><BR><FONT=20
color=3D#000080>:::: :::: encoded switch =20
setup.</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: ::::=20
</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: ::::=20
Later</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: :::: =
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</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: ::::=20
</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: ::::=20
Chris "Washout" Carter</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>::::=20
:::: F4UT Management</FONT><BR><FONT=20
color=3D#000080>:::: :::: </FONT><BR><FONT=20
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</FONT><BR><FONT=20
color=3D#000080>:::: :::: =
-----Original=20
Message-----</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: =
::::=20
From: Steve Wilson [<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:mafsix@attbi.com]">mailto:mafsix@attbi.com]</A></FONT><BR>=
<FONT=20
color=3D#000080>:::: :::: Sent: 03 October 2002=20
16:35</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: :::: To: =
simpits-tech@simpits.org</FONT><BR><FONT=20
color=3D#000080>:::: :::: Subject: =
[simpits-tech]=20
SP4</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: =20
::::</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: ::::</FONT><BR><FONT=20
color=3D#000080>:::: :::: Hi Erwin=20
-</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: ::::</FONT><BR><FONT=20
color=3D#000080>:::: :::: =20
</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: ::::=20
The flight data is nice - but =
when is the=20
UT going</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: =
to</FONT><BR><FONT=20
color=3D#000080>:::: :::: implement=20
differential braking (if ever)? It</FONT><BR><FONT=20
color=3D#000080>:::: seems that's =
a</FONT><BR><FONT=20
color=3D#000080>:::: :::: feature of concern to =
lots=20
of folks, no matter</FONT><BR><FONT=20
color=3D#000080>:::: what flavor</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#800000>::::=20
:::: of rudder pedals they are=20
considering. I know</FONT><BR><FONT=20
color=3D#000080>:::: it can be</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>:::: =20
:::: faked, but with the brakes being either =
off or=20
on,</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: that's =
only</FONT><BR><FONT=20
color=3D#000080>:::: :::: =
a=20
kludge. What's really needed is variable</FONT><BR><FONT=20
color=3D#000080>:::: strength</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>:::: =20
:::: differential braking, but =
perhaps=20
that's asking a</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: =
bit</FONT><BR><FONT=20
color=3D#000080>:::: ::::=20
much...... ;-)</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>::::=20
::::</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: ::::=20
</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>::::=20
:::: Steve</FONT><BR><FONT=20
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