[simpits-tech] SP4

Chris Carter simpits-tech@simpits.org
Thu, 3 Oct 2002 22:21:47 +0100


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H Steve
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>From the F4UT team yes.
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Our agreement (which was extended by quite a bit past the original
deadline) lasted until March after that G2i started developing their
products. Of course their is heaps more we could have done to the code
but to have the two development streams going on at the same time on
such a complex piece of coding was impractical from G2i's point of view
as a development house.
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That's not the end as there is a lot of work going on to improve F4 from
the data side and some of the projects will last some time eg flight
models are being continually improved as new and more accurate data is
found. Of course there are the new theatres, hi res textures improved
weapons data, updated airfields, new cockpits 2D and 3D, new and more
detailed models, improved SAMs, improved ATO, more trees, more weapons,
CTD fixes in the data etc etc etc. Plenty to look forward to and we're
still discovering things we can do without modifying the core
executable.
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Later
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Chris "Washout" Carter
F4UT Management

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Wilson [mailto:mafsix@attbi.com]
Sent: 03 October 2002 21:48
To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] SP4


Hi Chris -   Does this mean that we've seen the end of exe mods?  Has G2
closed the door to any future work beyond data changes?

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Steve=20
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Steve Wilson, mafsix@attbi.com on 10/03/2002=20


On Thu, 3 Oct 2002 20:49:00 +0100, Chris Carter wrote:
::::
::::   Sorry  guys but to implement differential toe braking needs
::::   exe work and that's  prohibited.
::::   =20
::::   Having  just learnt how to shave a few pieces off my TM
::::   Elite's to get the toe action  working and rig up some pots
::::   I'm as eager to see this as  anyone.
::::   =20
::::   I'm  just gritting my teeth and bearing it with my keyboard
::::   encoded switch  setup.
::::   =20
::::   Later
::::   =20
::::   =20
::::   Chris  "Washout" Carter
::::   F4UT  Management
::::   =20
::::   =20
::::      -----Original Message-----
::::   From: Steve Wilson    [ mailto:mafsix@attbi.com]
::::   Sent: 03 October 2002 16:35
::::   To:    simpits-tech@simpits.org
::::   Subject: [simpits-tech]    SP4
::::
::::
::::     Hi Erwin -
::::
::::     =20
::::     The flight data is nice - but when is the UT going to
::::   implement    differential braking (if ever)? It seems that's a
::::   feature of concern to lots    of folks, no matter what flavor
::::   of rudder pedals they are considering.  I    know it can be
::::   faked, but with the brakes being either off or on, that's only
::::      a kludge.  What's really needed is variable strength
::::   differential    braking, but perhaps that's asking a bit
::::   much......  ;-)
::::
::::     =20
::::     Steve



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Steve</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D187325820-03102002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
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the F4UT team yes.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D187325820-03102002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Our=20
agreement (which was extended by quite a bit past the original deadline) =
lasted=20
until March after that G2i&nbsp;started developing their products. Of =
course=20
their is heaps more we could have done to the code but to have the two=20
development streams going on at the same time on such a complex piece of =
coding=20
was impractical from G2i's point of view as a development=20
house.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D187325820-03102002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D187325820-03102002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>That's=20
not the end as there is a lot of work going on to improve F4 from the =
data side=20
and some of the projects will last some time eg flight models are being=20
continually improved as new and more accurate data is found. Of course =
there are=20
the new theatres, hi res textures improved weapons data, updated =
airfields, new=20
cockpits 2D and 3D, new and more detailed models, improved SAMs, =
improved ATO,=20
more trees, more weapons,&nbsp;CTD&nbsp;fixes in the data&nbsp;etc etc =
etc.=20
Plenty to look forward to and we're still discovering things we can do =
without=20
modifying the core executable.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D187325820-03102002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
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"Washout" Carter</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D187325820-03102002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
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Management</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Steve Wilson=20
  [mailto:mafsix@attbi.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 03 October 2002 =
21:48<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  simpits-tech@simpits.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [simpits-tech]=20
  SP4<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Chris -&nbsp;&nbsp; Does this mean =
that we've=20
  seen the end of exe mods?&nbsp; Has G2 closed the door to any future =
work=20
  beyond data changes?</FONT><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Steve</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial =
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  <BR>Steve Wilson, mafsix@attbi.com on 10/03/2002 <BR></FONT><BR><BR>On =
Thu, 3=20
  Oct 2002 20:49:00 +0100, Chris Carter wrote:<BR>::::<BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; Sorry &nbsp;guys but to implement =
differential toe=20
  braking needs</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; exe work and =
that's=20
  &nbsp;prohibited.</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp;=20
  &nbsp;</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; Having &nbsp;just =
learnt how=20
  to shave a few pieces off my TM</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: =
&nbsp;=20
  Elite's to get the toe action &nbsp;working and rig up some=20
  pots</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; I'm as eager to see =
this as=20
  &nbsp;anyone.</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; =
&nbsp;</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; I'm &nbsp;just gritting my teeth and =
bearing it with=20
  my keyboard</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; encoded switch =

  &nbsp;setup.</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; =
&nbsp;</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; Later</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: =
&nbsp;=20
  &nbsp;</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; =
&nbsp;</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; Chris &nbsp;"Washout" =
Carter</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; F4UT &nbsp;Management</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; &nbsp;</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp;=20
  &nbsp;</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp;-----Original=20
  Message-----</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; From: Steve =
Wilson=20
  &nbsp; &nbsp;[<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:mafsix@attbi.com]">mailto:mafsix@attbi.com]</A></FONT><BR>=
<FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; Sent: 03 October 2002 =
16:35</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; To: &nbsp;=20
  &nbsp;simpits-tech@simpits.org</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: =
&nbsp;=20
  Subject: [simpits-tech] &nbsp; &nbsp;SP4</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>::::</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>::::</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; &nbsp; Hi Erwin -</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>::::</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; =
&nbsp;=20
  &nbsp;</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; &nbsp; The flight =
data is=20
  nice - but when is the UT going to</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp;=20
  implement &nbsp; &nbsp;differential braking (if ever)? It seems that's =

  a</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; feature of concern to =
lots &nbsp;=20
  &nbsp;of folks, no matter what flavor</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>::::=20
  &nbsp; of rudder pedals they are considering.&nbsp;&nbsp;I &nbsp; =
&nbsp;know=20
  it can be</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; faked, but with =
the brakes=20
  being either off or on, that's only</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp;=20
  &nbsp; &nbsp;a kludge.&nbsp;&nbsp;What's really needed is variable=20
  strength</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; differential =
&nbsp;=20
  &nbsp;braking, but perhaps that's asking a bit</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; much......&nbsp;&nbsp;;-)</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>::::</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; =
&nbsp;=20
  &nbsp;</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; &nbsp;=20
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