[simpits-tech] to STEVE, re: throttle arm

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Steve,

I get back to you tomorrow.

Thanks=20

Jurgen
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  From: Steve Wilson=20
  To: simpits-tech@simpits.org=20
  Sent: Wednesday, 02 October, 2002 12:18 AM
  Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] to STEVE, re: throttle arm


  Er, Marv, actually, that mail was directed at Jim K., whom may have =
some sort of "in" with a rapid prototyper.  And this whole thing is =
aimed at automated 3D rendering of the knobs.  I don't want to hand =
build 15-20 different knobs either.  If my drawings (TBD, BTW) could be =
used for RP generation of knob masters, from there, castings could be =
made, and ultimately knob sets.  I'm trying to knock down that $900 to =
$1200 cost of the knob masters, and if Jim has a good resource, let's =
add that to the pool.  If the RP costs too much, though, obviously this =
is for naught.  But Jim suggested RP for the arm, and while that may or =
may not fly, RP for the knobs would be super handy.  That is, unless our =
pal Jurgen at Aimsworth comes up with a better solution, and I'm =
thinking that may be a very, very good answer to the whole situation.  =
Jurgen is taking a real bent towards authenticity these days, and I'm =
pretty optimistic he will ultimately come through.


  Steve
  --=20
  Steve Wilson, mafsix@attbi.com on 10/01/2002=20


  On Tue, 01 Oct 2002 12:46:55 -0400, Marv De Beque wrote:
  ::::
  ::::   Thanks for the offer for the knobs, but like I said before,
  ::::   the drawings are
  ::::   of little use to me.  No way do I want to make complex molds
  ::::   from scratch
  ::::   for knobs.
  ::::
  ::::   It is 100 times easier to make a mold from a real knob and it
  ::::   is more
  ::::   accurate, to boot.
  ::::   --
  ::::
  ::::
  ::::   > From: Steve Wilson <mafsix@attbi.com>
  ::::   > Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
  ::::   > Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 11:13:07 -0400
  ::::   > To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
  ::::   > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] to STEVE, re: throttle arm
  ::::   >
  ::::   > Hi Jim - I could probably generate a model of the arm in DXF
  ::::   and STL with
  ::::   > little problem.  Keep in mind that the arm needs to be as
  ::::   hollow as possible
  ::::   > (thin wall) to get the TQS cablage through it.  But......
  ::::   more importantly for
  ::::   > the group, what about knobs!?!  I can generate STL's for
  ::::   them too.  I don't
  ::::   > have the time resource to get deep in this, not to mention
  ::::   sufficient stress
  ::::   > overhead, but I'm getting into 3D CGI in a big way, and
  ::::   could use the practice
  ::::   > doing the models.  It does happen that these can be exported
  ::::   into
  ::::   > stereolithography and AutoCAD files suitable for rapid
  ::::   prototyping.  Am I on
  ::::   > the right track??
  ::::   >
  ::::   > Steve
  ::::   > --
  ::::   > Steve Wilson, mafsix@attbi.com on 10/01/2002
  ::::   >
  ::::   >
  ::::   > On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 17:26:18 -0600, Jim K. wrote:
  ::::   > ::::
  ::::   > ::::   Steve,
  ::::   > ::::   You know an easy way to make a replica of the
  ::::   throttle arm
  ::::   > ::::   might be to go
  ::::   > ::::   to a rapid prototyper and have them make an arm using
  ::::   one of
  ::::   > ::::   their metal
  ::::   > ::::   based materials.  It actually might be interesting to
  ::::   see what
  ::::   > ::::   something
  ::::   > ::::   like that would cost.   Do you have a drawing for
  ::::   that arm??
  ::::   > ::::   I work
  ::::   > ::::   closely with a prototyper here and I could get some
  ::::   ideas for
  ::::   > ::::   other ways of
  ::::   > ::::   making that arm.
  ::::   > ::::   Lemme know
  ::::   > ::::   Jim
  ::::   > ::::
  ::::   > ::::
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<DIV>Steve,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I get back to you tomorrow.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Thanks </DIV>
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<DIV>Jurgen</DIV>
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  <A title=3Dmafsix@attbi.com href=3D"mailto:mafsix@attbi.com">Steve =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [simpits-tech] to =
STEVE, re:=20
  throttle arm</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Er, Marv, actually, that mail was =
directed at Jim=20
  K., whom may have some sort of "in" with a rapid prototyper.&nbsp; And =
this=20
  whole thing is aimed at automated 3D rendering of the knobs.&nbsp; I =
don't=20
  want to hand build 15-20 different knobs either.&nbsp; If my drawings =
(TBD,=20
  BTW) could be used for RP generation of knob masters, from there, =
castings=20
  could be made, and ultimately knob sets.&nbsp; I'm trying to knock =
down that=20
  $900 to $1200 cost of the knob masters, and if Jim has a good =
resource, let's=20
  add that to the pool.&nbsp; If the RP costs too much, though, =
obviously this=20
  is for naught.&nbsp; But Jim suggested RP for the arm, and while that =
may or=20
  may not fly, RP for the knobs would be super handy.&nbsp; That is, =
unless our=20
  pal Jurgen at Aimsworth comes up with a better solution, and I'm =
thinking that=20
  may be a very, very good answer to the whole situation.&nbsp; Jurgen =
is taking=20
  a real bent towards authenticity these days, and I'm pretty optimistic =
he will=20
  ultimately come through.</FONT><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Steve</FONT><BR><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>--=20
  <BR>Steve Wilson, mafsix@attbi.com on 10/01/2002 <BR></FONT><BR><BR>On =
Tue, 01=20
  Oct 2002 12:46:55 -0400, Marv De Beque wrote:<BR>::::<BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; Thanks for the offer for the knobs, but =
like I said=20
  before,</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; the drawings=20
  are</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; of little use to me. =
&nbsp;No=20
  way do I want to make complex molds</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp;=20
  from scratch</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; for=20
  knobs.</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>::::</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>::::=20
  &nbsp; It is 100 times easier to make a mold from a real knob and=20
  it</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; is more</FONT><BR><FONT =

  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; accurate, to boot.</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; --</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>::::</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>::::</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;From: Steve Wilson=20
  &lt;mafsix@attbi.com&gt;</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 11:13:07=20
  -0400</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;To:=20
  &lt;simpits-tech@simpits.org&gt;</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: =
&nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] to STEVE, re: throttle=20
  arm</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; &gt;</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;Hi Jim - I could probably =
generate a model=20
  of the arm in DXF</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; and STL=20
  with</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;little =
problem.=20
  &nbsp;Keep in mind that the arm needs to be as</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; hollow as possible</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;(thin wall) to get the TQS =
cablage through=20
  it. &nbsp;But......</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; more =
importantly=20
  for</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;the group, =
what about=20
  knobs!?! &nbsp;I can generate STL's for</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>::::=20
  &nbsp; them too. &nbsp;I don't</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: =
&nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;have the time resource to get deep in this, not to=20
  mention</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; sufficient=20
  stress</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;overhead, =
but I'm=20
  getting into 3D CGI in a big way, and</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>::::=20
  &nbsp; could use the practice</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: =
&nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;doing the models. &nbsp;It does happen that these can be=20
  exported</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; =
into</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;stereolithography and AutoCAD =
files=20
  suitable for rapid</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; =
prototyping.=20
  &nbsp;Am I on</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;the right=20
  track??</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; =
&gt;</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;Steve</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>::::=20
  &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;--</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;Steve=20
  Wilson, mafsix@attbi.com on 10/01/2002</FONT><BR><FONT =
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  &nbsp; &gt;</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; =
&gt;</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 17:26:18 =
-0600, Jim K.=20
  wrote:</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;::::</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;:::: &nbsp;=20
  Steve,</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;:::: =
&nbsp; You=20
  know an easy way to make a replica of the</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>::::=20
  &nbsp; throttle arm</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;::::=20
  &nbsp; might be to go</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;::::=20
  &nbsp; to a rapid prototyper and have them make an arm =
using</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; one of</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;:::: &nbsp; their metal</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: =
&nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;:::: &nbsp; based materials. &nbsp;It actually might be =
interesting=20
  to</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; see =
what</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;:::: &nbsp; =
something</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;:::: &nbsp; like that would =
cost. &nbsp;=20
  Do you have a drawing for</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; =
that=20
  arm??</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;:::: =
&nbsp; I=20
  work</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;:::: &nbsp; =
closely=20
  with a prototyper here and I could get some</FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#000080>::::=20
  &nbsp; ideas for</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;::::=20
  &nbsp; other ways of</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;::::=20
  &nbsp; making that arm.</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;:::: &nbsp; Lemme know</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: =
&nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;:::: &nbsp; Jim</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;::::</FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000080>:::: &nbsp;=20
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