[simpits-tech] How do you deal with temperature inside the pit?

[Albert Yung]

Craig,

I think the duct in the F16 is located between your legs infront of the
ejection handle. not sure if there are any others...I am sure there are. I
have follow up your question to a few F16 crew chiefs I know from my VFW.
Hopefully they will come online and give me some good info in a few hour's
time.

I think its very clever to use the Air Cond. panel to actually controls the
air float inside the pit. Another boost in realism. Why didnt I thought of
that before??

Craig, on another note, I would like to hear your opinion on these portable
I have found.

http://www.gasmart.com.au/html/dimplex_.html

Its not as good as a window mount system. However, it can save me a hell of
a lot of installation, breaking the window and security bars. Plus not have
to worry kids vendalising something half stuck out the window. The cost of
them is only a few hundred dollars Australian more compare to a window mount
system. The flat I live in now its my parents, and they are concern with
electric bills associated with an air conditioner despite the fact now that
I work and can pay for a little addition to living standard...they are just
old school. Instead of trying to convince them and break the wall. I thought
I will go ahead and use this system to allow me to unplug the air
conditioner from the pit and take it into my folk's bed room on a very hot
night to give them better sleep. I think the concept would be the same like
you mentioned before, build a shrud around the outlet and feed the cool air
into the cockpit.

Cheers,

Albert
Sydney, Australia


----- Original Message ----- e
From: "Craig Rochester" <johncraigroch@msn.com>
To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 1:56 PM
Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] How do you deal with temperature inside the pit?


> Hi Rod,
>
> Sounds like you have a well thought out plan.  That's a good idea to cool
> the panel and monitors with ventilation and having  the A/C for the
interior
> separate.   The "mixing box" for modulating the A/C temperature is
perfect.
> You'll get a nice, even supply temperature without the cycling on/off with
a
> thermostat type control.
>
> I've done a little searching for info on the F-16's A/C and found this
link
> for the "F-16C Air Conditioning Panel":
> http://home.att.net/~sfinger/F16aircond.htm
>
> Any idea what RAM, DUMP, and NORMAL - AIR SOURCE means?  Am I correct in
> assuming the left dial is a proportional control like on a car?  Anyone
know
> where the ducts and/or nozzles are in a jet?
>
> Craig R.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org
[mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org]
> On Behalf Of Rod Dale
> Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 12:17 PM
> To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] How do you deal with temperature inside the
pit?
>
> The thermosensor normally sits in or near the air exhaust outlet in the
> cockpit. Most I've worked on have this outlet in the rear bulkhead behind
> the seat somewhere.
> I'm going to duct my room aircon in/out of my F-111 as per Craig's
diagram.
> The outlets will be - 2 eyeball types in the centre overhead beam assy and
> one in each footwell (pilot and nav). These will have small PC power
supply
> type fans in them to force the air out. I'm planning on making a servo
> controlled valve to allow more\less cool air in. This air will mix with
the
> ambient room temperature and hopefully make it reasonably comfortable. The
> servo will be controlled from the F-111 Aircon panel.
> To cool the monitors I plan to have an exhaust fan in the front that will
> draw the hot air out from behind the instrument panel and two vents low
down
> on either side for the incoming room air.
> I'm going to use the cabin pressure gauge as the temperature indicator,
with
> sensor located near the exhaust air outlet.
> When I draw this up I will upload it.
> Rod
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Sean Galbraith <sean.g@paradise.net.nz>
> To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 9:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] How do you deal with temperature inside the
pit?
>
>
> >
> > >Would someone like to come up with a temperature gauge that shows the
> > >temperature inside the cockpit replacing an engine temp gauge or other
> > >gauge, would that be too tacky?
> >
> > I would imagine that most military pit's would have an A?C panel anyway,
> > with a thermostat in it.  I know the (1970 vintage) A-4k does, midway
down
> > the RH-Wedge panel....  Why not just use that?
> >
> > Sean.
> >
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