From simpits-tech@simpits.org Thu Mar 14 02:31:45 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Gerald Bellinger) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 21:31:45 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] PrintServers References: <1463224A44C62243973321FB317A34E1B3A3@exchange.clearsky.dk> Message-ID: <002b01c1cb00$64ea4dc0$363a5c18@LAPTOP> Will this info help me eventually run my fmc's in my A320 pit? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stig Joergensen" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 12:20 PM Subject: [simpits-tech] PrintServers > Hey my fellow pitters.... > > > Just made a fancy discovery..... Well some of you probably know this > already.... > > To drive small Character LCD displays you can easily use a Generic > network printer server with a parallel interface.... it appears that a > tcp port is established for the par port on the server, and you can > easily write to this port with telnet and the bytes you type in the > telnet window will is stamped directly on the par port. (jesses what a > line) > > the port number are 4010 (4020, 4030 are also available as logical > ports, and have nothing to do with the number of ports on the server) > > > Just thought it might be useful information.... > > > /Stig > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > From simpits-tech@simpits.org Fri Mar 15 20:17:01 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (A.Y.) Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 07:17:01 +1100 Subject: [simpits-tech] Head tracking References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020215101143.00a2cb10@mail.verizon.net> <02b501c1b634$407441c0$0200a8c0@SpeedOne> Message-ID: <000001c1cc66$05dec2e0$0200a8c0@shizznit> > Very true indeed. That's why I would stick with Prohms suggestion to only > use the HMD in case of dogfight where switch flipping is pretty much limited > to the HOTAS anyway, and for general orientation (f.e. lining up with the > runway as you approach, or identifying targets off boresight). > > Ideal would be a projector with head tracking capabilities, but then there's > that thing about a budget and such... ;-) > > Chris "SpeedOne" Van Lierop Or, technology take us to another level where u can have the goggle designed small and light enough so its like a visor where u can mount it like night vision goggles...flip it down to use and flip it back up when u dont need it? :) Just an idea for thoughts. Albert Sydney, Austraila From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sat Mar 16 00:27:14 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (A.Y.) Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 11:27:14 +1100 Subject: [simpits-tech] Paging Mr Rod Dale Message-ID: <003301c1cc81$532ba020$0200a8c0@shizznit> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C1CCDD.85BA43A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Saw something on Desktopsims website that might interest the only F111 = builder I know in this group. http://dtsims.com/parts.htm Cheers, Albert Sydney, Australia ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C1CCDD.85BA43A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Saw something on Desktopsims website = that might=20 interest the only F111 builder I know in this group.
 
http://dtsims.com/parts.htm
 
Cheers,

Albert
Sydney, Australia
------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C1CCDD.85BA43A0-- From simpits-tech@simpits.org Fri Mar 1 18:24:11 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Roy Coates) Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 18:24:11 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Argh.. 6.10 UDP changed. In-Reply-To: <1463224A44C62243973321FB317A34E1B3B5@exchange.clearsky.dk> Message-ID: Anyone not making sense of UDP from 6.10 may like to know that each data packet send from or to xplane now has the IP address of the sending machine appended to it :( To use a technical phrase - bollox! Roy the pissed. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Fri Mar 1 18:17:44 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (F16) Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 19:17:44 +0100 Subject: AW: [simpits-tech] THROTTLES & STICKS Message-ID: <01C1C159.85601040.f16@xflight.de> Great, thank's for information :-) Martin "Pegasus" From simpits-tech@simpits.org Fri Mar 1 19:08:53 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Marc Weigert) Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 20:08:53 +0100 Subject: AW: [simpits-tech] THROTTLES & STICKS In-Reply-To: <01C1C159.85601040.f16@xflight.de> Message-ID: null problemo Martin :) Nice to see it seems to be helpful, as I could not say what information you all already have! Cheers, Marc > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org > [mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org]Im Auftrag von F16 > Gesendet: Freitag, 1. März 2002 19:18 > An: 'simpits-tech@simpits.org' > Betreff: AW: [simpits-tech] THROTTLES & STICKS > > > Great, thank's for information :-) > > Martin "Pegasus" > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the > above page. Thanks! > From simpits-tech@simpits.org Fri Mar 1 23:16:40 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Davide) Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 00:16:40 +0100 Subject: R: [simpits-tech] Simpit_org members References: <20020226185249.41355.qmail@web10003.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Dear Justin, here i'm ! Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Justin Messenger To: Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 7:52 PM Subject: [simpits-tech] Simpit_org members > Simpit_org members need to be sure and check the org > list, there is something we need to discuss and > possibly vote on. > > Justin > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games > http://sports.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > From simpits-tech@simpits.org Fri Mar 1 23:49:39 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Davide) Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 00:49:39 +0100 Subject: R: [simpits-tech] How 1 hour becomes 3+ (Progress update) References: <49161BD15CC4D311B78400C04F109D3A01004D33@wpgexchange.online-can.com> Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00D3_01C1C184.21F47FC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How 1 hour becomes 3+ (Progress update)Nice Work Wiebe !=20 I think i'll need your help to lights up my instruments. Hope not to borry with a "river" of questions. too late to begin ! .... http://www.geocities.com/fox_two_64/Eng.html ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Wiebe, Alex=20 To: 'simpits-tech@simpits.org'=20 Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 5:08 PM Subject: [simpits-tech] How 1 hour becomes 3+ (Progress update) What a night! A while back a managed to assemble my HSI gauge, but = hadn't found time to get the software working. Over the weekend I = grabbed WideFS (thanks Gene for the pointer) and last night I started = tackling more then one problem at once (never a good sign). I've been = staying up far too late over the last few nights, and had decided to = give my pit a good 1 hour, and then go to bed. I even set my watch alarm = to 9:50PM to remind myself to be responsible and get some sleep... I rewrote my servo driver to be an executable so I can use WideFS = instead of the bulkier FS98 installation. I then tried to get it to work = with the newly build HSI - nothing. So I wrote a test program, and spent a long time wondering why the = pitch / bank information wasn't changing. (beep-beep-beep - its 9:50, = I'm so close I can taste it! Just a couple more minutes.) Turns out the math routines were performing rounding too soon. After = changing the=20 '* 360 / (65356 * 65356)'=20 to the following;=20 '* 360.0 / (65356.0 * 65356.0)'=20 the data started working! Wheee! (At this point it is 10:30PM)=20 Well, now I have the program working, and the HSI is sitting there = looking at me. Ok, port the code to the driver and see if it works. Then = I'll go to bed. Well, it turns, but the pitch is inverted! Easy fix, = recompile and go. Pitch is fixed. Bank is off. I knew it would be - the = servo was mounted with a best guess as to centre (for that matter so was = the pitch - guess I got lucky there). Add a fudge factor, recompile, test, repeat.=20 It's close, but, the bank range is limited to +/- 45 degrees! (It's = now 11:30PM, time for bed, I'll fix it another day)=20 I thought I had the controller driving the servo +/- 90 degrees! Nope, = forgot that jumper. Adding the jumper only takes 2 minutes! Dang, now I = need to recalibrate it... lather,rinse,repeat 12:00AM Hooray! It's working! I wonder what it looks like mounted in = the dash (I just painted it "Knight's Armour" on the weekend)? 12:30AM After a couple touch-n-goes, the instrument looks pretty = sweet. I stumble into bed mumbling something about hoping the coffee's = extra strong at work tomorrow... http://www.geocities.com/ehud42/pics/HSI_Construction/gallery.htm=20 ------=_NextPart_000_00D3_01C1C184.21F47FC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How 1 hour becomes 3+ (Progress update)
Nice Work Wiebe !
I think i'll need your help to lights up my=20 instruments.
Hope not to borry with a "river" of=20 questions.

too late to begin ! = ....
 
http://www.geocitie= s.com/fox_two_64/Eng.html
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Wiebe,=20 Alex
To: 'simpits-tech@simpits.org'
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, = 2002 5:08=20 PM
Subject: [simpits-tech] How 1 = hour=20 becomes 3+ (Progress update)

What a night! A while back a managed to assemble my = HSI gauge,=20 but hadn't found time to get the software working. Over the weekend I = grabbed=20 WideFS (thanks Gene for the pointer) and last night I started tackling = more=20 then one problem at once (never a good sign). I've been staying up far = too=20 late over the last few nights, and had decided to give my pit a good 1 = hour,=20 and then go to bed. I even set my watch alarm to 9:50PM to remind = myself to be=20 responsible and get some sleep...

I rewrote my servo driver to be an executable so I = can use=20 WideFS instead of the bulkier FS98 installation. I then tried to get = it to=20 work with the newly build HSI - nothing.

So I wrote a test program, and spent a long time = wondering why=20 the pitch / bank information wasn't changing. (beep-beep-beep - its = 9:50, I'm=20 so close I can taste it! Just a couple more minutes.)

Turns out the math routines were performing rounding = too soon.=20 After changing the

'* 360 / (65356 * 65356)'

to the following;

'* 360.0 / (65356.0 * 65356.0)'

the data started working! Wheee! (At this point it = is=20 10:30PM)

Well, now I have the program working, and the HSI is = sitting=20 there looking at me. Ok, port the code to the driver and see if it = works. Then=20 I'll go to bed. Well, it turns, but the pitch is inverted! Easy fix, = recompile=20 and go. Pitch is fixed. Bank is off. I knew it would be - the servo = was=20 mounted with a best guess as to centre (for that matter so was the = pitch -=20 guess I got lucky there).

Add a fudge factor, recompile, test, repeat. =

It's close, but, the bank range is limited to +/- 45 = degrees!=20 (It's now 11:30PM, time for bed, I'll fix it another day)

I thought I had the controller driving the servo +/- = 90=20 degrees! Nope, forgot that jumper. Adding the jumper only takes 2 = minutes!=20 Dang, now I need to recalibrate it... lather,rinse,repeat

12:00AM Hooray! It's working! I wonder what it looks = like=20 mounted in the dash (I just painted it "Knight's Armour" on the=20 weekend)?

12:30AM After a couple touch-n-goes, the instrument = looks=20 pretty sweet. I stumble into bed mumbling something about hoping the = coffee's=20 extra strong at work tomorrow...

http://www.geocities.com/ehud42/pics/HSI_Construction/gal= lery.htm=20

------=_NextPart_000_00D3_01C1C184.21F47FC0-- From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sat Mar 2 01:26:02 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 17:26:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: R: [simpits-tech] How 1 hour becomes 3+ (Progress update) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Alex, do you have any pics of the ADI all assembled and running? g. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sat Mar 2 01:01:23 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Allen Buffington) Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 18:01:23 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] Master Caution Panel Lightbox Message-ID: <3C802462.3B4D2478@sofast.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------F728353EC70B7EA00E9DE555 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK, for all of you out there that want to light up your Master Caution panel with individual lights I have finally come up with the solution. I don't know why I didn't think of doing this before now. I have created a matrix box that you put together and attach to the back of the caution light panel. The back plate is marked for drilling whatever size holes to fit your LED's or small incandescent bulbs and centers the light source directly behind the individual caution grid. See the attached drawing to better understand what I am doing. The material is opaque black plastic. The box depth is 1/2in or 1.27cm. 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ABRRRQAUUUUAFFFFABRRRQAUUUUAFFFFABRRRQAUUUUAFFFFABRRRQAUUUUAFFFFABRRRQAU UUUAFFFFAH//2Q== --------------F728353EC70B7EA00E9DE555-- From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sat Mar 2 03:13:04 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Marv De Beque) Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 22:13:04 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Master Caution Panel Lightbox In-Reply-To: <3C802462.3B4D2478@sofast.net> Message-ID: <6971B12E-2D8B-11D6-BA92-000502DE6569@speakeasy.net> Nice work! A good solution is a simple solution. Marv On Friday, March 1, 2002, at 08:01 PM, Allen Buffington wrote: > OK, for all of you out there that want to light up your > Master Caution panel with individual lights I have finally > come up with the solution. I don't know why I didn't think > of doing this before now. > > I have created a matrix box that you put together and attach > to the back of the caution light panel. The back plate is > marked for drilling whatever size holes to fit your LED's or > small incandescent bulbs and centers the light source > directly behind the individual caution grid. > > See the attached drawing to better understand what I am > doing. The material is opaque black plastic. The box depth > is 1/2in or 1.27cm. > > I will take some photos of the actual box this weekend and > post them to the simpits site. > > ~~Allen > "Loose not thy airspeed, lest the ground rise up and smite > thee" > > From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sat Mar 2 07:43:15 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (paul needham) Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 07:43:15 +0000 Subject: [simpits-tech] Link trainer idea Message-ID:
Hi all
 
I have some notes on the WW2 link trainer and came across something that may be of interest.
The trainer has a working fuel gauge ! in that it was a clockwork timer that ran for around a hour but was calibrated in gallons.
So say you plane consumes 50 gallons a hour if you wound it up the fully 60 minutes the gauge showed 50 gallons of fuel as the timer ran down the fuel gauge headed for zero also , when it reached zero it cut the engine.
For someone doing a light plane sim it might add a bit of extra realism knowing that a timer was ticking away and if you were not on the ground before it stopped your engine would be killed !
regards paul

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From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sat Mar 2 10:51:55 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Sean Galbraith) Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 23:51:55 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] I'm so happy! Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020302232256.02458af0@pop3.paradise.net.nz> I had the most amazing afternoon yesterday! I got an invite to take some photos and dimensions of the last remaining RNZAF A-4's. Saddled up with cameras, digital and SLR, tape measure, notebook and a heap of questions.... I got the whole buck-fifty tour, all over the jet inside and out, snapped a few photos then an avionics tech wandered over. I showed him some pics of my 'pit and he got all interested and offered the grand tour of the avionics suite in the aircraft. I now know what 90% of the knobs and buttons do, and even got a run-down on the radar (non-emitting test mode only) and HUD. This guy was a true enthusiast, and when I said that I planned on building a HUD for my pit he said "good luck" :) Then I got a really detailed run down on the optics of the HUD (and the HUD recording system) which I will have to go over (yes I tooks notes) before I actually understand what he said!!! In the end I only took about 20 digi pix, and a handful of print shots, mainly because the box full of stuff they kept giving me just got too damn heavy! I remember reading an article that Justin wrote, in it he said something about if you ever intend using real parts in your cockpit make sure you get the dimensions right. I thought "I'll NEVER be able to get real parts, so that don't apply to me", I did make the dimensions of my pit right, which is now paying off... The box I was referring to ended up being filled with all kinds of useful (to me) junk (to them) like Gear handle, ground power select switch, instrument glasses, static vent covers, pitot tube covers, wing tip NAV lights, and formation lights (don't know what I'll use them for but...) The Air Force team are building a TA-4 out of junk, the nose is from a BDR trainer, originally a US Navy TA-4J, the rear fuse is from an A-4K, as is one wing (don't even remember where the other one came from!) etc etc, anyway they are building up the cockpits as they were when the jets arrived in 1972, and they are doing a lot of things just like we all are! They don't have all the avionics boxes, since most where replaced in the '90s when the aircraft were updated and so have to build replicas.... Very cool stuff too, I hope to get back over there to take some more photos of the restoration, there may be some very useful stuff for us in what they are doing! After the tour of the hangar I was chatting to my guide who works in Aircrew Life Support Equipment (ALSE), very interesting guy he was too, showed me the in's and out's of the Escapac ejection seat and all the associated harnesses and clothing. I mentioned to him that I was having all kinds of trouble finding the Koch fittings for my seat, (not the easiest thing to find on the market here in NZ!) he said that the fittings were always being checked, and even the smallest defect would see them tagged U/S and thrown out! He rummaged around his desk and found me a pair! (I have looked all over them and cant for the life of me find anything wrong with them!) I was gobsmaked! This sort of thing NEVER happens to me, I could not stop thanking the guy.... Finally after looking over the other seats and safety gear (He also had a Martin Baker seat out of a Macchi in the bay) we were about to head out when I happened to glance into the trash can (is that a common habit among simpit builders? Hell yes!) and what did I see? a dark visor for the latest Alpha flight helmets (UK manufactured lightweight fast jet helmets) I asked if he was *really* throwing that out, and he said "do you want it?", no sooner was I diving into the trash can..... I now have in my hot sweaty hands, 2 sets of clear and dark visors, apparently scratched.... What a trip, and the best part is I got an invite to go back again! Sean G. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sat Mar 2 11:30:29 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Erwin Neyt) Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 12:30:29 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] CFS3 Message-ID: <94F5FC70101ED311A57A00C095FAD9B7BE99EA@URANUS> Some news for the WII fans: CFS3 is expected this fall, hopefully with a lot of new API's Erwin. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sat Mar 2 15:01:28 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Wiebe, Alex) Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 09:01:28 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Instrument photos Message-ID: <49161BD15CC4D311B78400C04F109D3A01004D3F@wpgexchange.online-can.com> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1C1FB.214708A0 Content-Type: text/plain Sorry Gene, I had to return the camera before I completed the final assembly. I borrow a digital camera from a friend once and a while. I'm still looking for that 'perfect' camera... you know the one that takes perfect pictures and doesn't cost anything? Is the instrument that I have an ADI or just an AI? How does one determine direction from the instrument? My flight training manual refers to is as simply an Attitude Instrument (AI). ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1C1FB.214708A0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Instrument photos

Sorry Gene, I had to return the camera before I = completed the final assembly. I borrow a digital camera from a friend = once and a while. I'm still looking for that 'perfect' camera... you = know the one that takes perfect pictures and doesn't cost = anything?

Is the instrument that I have an ADI or just an AI? = How does one determine direction from the instrument? My flight = training manual refers to is as simply an Attitude Instrument = (AI).

------_=_NextPart_001_01C1C1FB.214708A0-- From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sat Mar 2 17:56:45 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Gene Buckle) Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 09:56:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] I'm so happy! In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020302232256.02458af0@pop3.paradise.net.nz> Message-ID: > What a trip, and the best part is I got an invite to go back again! > That's SO cool Sean! You'll have to post the HUD write up on your website. When are you going to post the pics? Hmmmm? *laughs* g. -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sat Mar 2 17:57:43 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Gene Buckle) Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 09:57:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] CFS3 In-Reply-To: <94F5FC70101ED311A57A00C095FAD9B7BE99EA@URANUS> Message-ID: Hell, they haven't even released the APIs for FS2k2 yet. *sigh* On Sat, 2 Mar 2002, Erwin Neyt wrote: > Some news for the WII fans: CFS3 is expected this fall, hopefully with a lot > of new API's > > Erwin. > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > > -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sat Mar 2 18:02:59 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Gene Buckle) Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 10:02:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Instrument photos In-Reply-To: <49161BD15CC4D311B78400C04F109D3A01004D3F@wpgexchange.online-can.com> Message-ID: > Sorry Gene, I had to return the camera before I completed the final > assembly. I borrow a digital camera from a friend once and a while. I'm > still looking for that 'perfect' camera... you know the one that takes > perfect pictures and doesn't cost anything? > Hehehe. I've got a Kodak DC290 that is a VERY good camera. I imagine you can get them for less than $200 these days. > Is the instrument that I have an ADI or just an AI? How does one determine > direction from the instrument? My flight training manual refers to is as > simply an Attitude Instrument (AI). > I'm so used to *seeing* ADIs & Flight Directors that I just call anything with a ball in it an ADI. :) You're correct though, what you have is indeed just an AI. g. -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sat Mar 2 18:50:33 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (CLYDE HARGIS) Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 13:50:33 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Re: Simpits-tech digest, Vol 1 #77 - 7 msgs Message-ID: Hi guys, My name is CJ....Recently over tha past couple of years I have sat back and read your post trying to get many ideas to use in the construction of my pit. I recently purchased the Aimsworth F-16 pit, and just placed an order to AGT, for all the panels/guages..... Im wondering if there any others out there doing the same, and if they would like to share some thoughts/ideas..... Any feedback would be great! -CJ >>> simpits-tech-request@simpits.org 03/02/02 05:56 AM >>> Send Simpits-tech mailing list submissions to simpits-tech@simpits.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to simpits-tech-request@simpits.org You can reach the person managing the list at simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Simpits-tech digest..." Today's Topics: 1. R: [simpits-tech] Simpit_org members (Davide) 2. R: [simpits-tech] How 1 hour becomes 3+ (Progress update) (Davide) 3. Re: R: [simpits-tech] How 1 hour becomes 3+ (Progress update) (Gene Buckle) 4. Master Caution Panel Lightbox (Allen Buffington) 5. Re: Master Caution Panel Lightbox (Marv De Beque) 6. Link trainer idea (paul needham) 7. I'm so happy! (Sean Galbraith) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Davide" To: Subject: R: [simpits-tech] Simpit_org members Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 00:16:40 +0100 Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org Dear Justin, here i'm ! Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Justin Messenger To: Sent: Tusday, February 26, 2002 7:52 PM Subject: [simpits-tech] Simpit_org members > Simpit_org members need to be sure and check the org > list, there is something we need to discuss and > possibly vote on. > > Justin > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games > http://sports.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Davide" To: Subject: R: [simpits-tech] How 1 hour becomes 3+ (Progress update) Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 00:49:39 +0100 Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00D3_01C1C184.21F47FC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How 1 hour becomes 3+ (Progress update)Nice Work Wiebe !=20 I think i'll need your help to lights up my instruments. Hope not to borry with a "river" of questions. too late to begin ! .... http://www.geocities.com/fox_two_64/Eng.html ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Wiebe, Alex=20 To: 'simpits-tech@simpits.org'=20 Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 5:08 PM Subject: [simpits-tech] How 1 hour becomes 3+ (Progress update) What a night! A while back a managed to assemble my HSI gauge, but = hadn't found time to get the software working. Over the weekend I = grabbed WideFS (thanks Gene for the pointer) and last night I started = tackling more then one problem at once (never a good sign). I've been = staying up far too late over the last few nights, and had decided to = give my pit a good 1 hour, and then go to bed. I even set my watch alarm = to 9:50PM to remind myself to be responsible and get some sleep... I rewote my From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sat Mar 2 21:07:38 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (mine) Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 16:07:38 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] AGP Card Help Message-ID: <002001c1c22e$48feb220$27c5b542@b8n9j0> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C1C204.600591C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Everyone.=20 Just back into doing the pit things and have another computer finally = something up to date the only problem is it seems that I can't get = FS2000 to work with my AGP card very well.. Is there something I am = missing it works much better with my older 3dfx card.. Any help would be = great.=20 Thanks=20 mark=20 ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C1C204.600591C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey Everyone.
 
Just back into doing the pit things and = have=20 another computer finally something up to date the only problem is it = seems that=20 I can't get FS2000 to work with my AGP card very well.. Is there = something I am=20 missing it works much better with my older 3dfx card.. Any help would be = great.=20
 
Thanks
mark
 
------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C1C204.600591C0-- From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sat Mar 2 21:33:11 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Davide) Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 22:33:11 +0100 Subject: R: [simpits-tech] Re: Simpits-tech digest, Vol 1 #77 - 7 msgs References: Message-ID: Hi Clyde, personally i think that AGT's panel are too expensive if you are not in the idea to have real panels or perfect replicas i would rather take the Nova Panels .... ok just panels and no hardware but with a little bit of patience and luck i'm realizing that founding the right hardware is not so impossible as i thought before starting. The only problem, at this moments, are the Knobs...... But MIGHTY MARV is on the way .....i hope..... i pray..... ..... Ok.... wellcome on board Clyde.... May God bless you too ! Davide http://www.geocities.com/fox_two_64/Eng.html ----- Original Message ----- From: CLYDE HARGIS To: Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 7:50 PM Subject: [simpits-tech] Re: Simpits-tech digest, Vol 1 #77 - 7 msgs > Hi guys, > My name is CJ....Recently over tha past couple of years I have sat back and read your post trying to get many ideas to use in the construction of my pit. > I recently purchased the Aimsworth F-16 pit, and just placed an order to AGT, for all the panels/guages..... > Im wondering if there any others out there doing the same, and if they would like to share some thoughts/ideas..... > Any feedback would be great! > -CJ > > >>> simpits-tech-request@simpits.org 03/02/02 05:56 AM >>> > Send Simpits-tech mailing list submissions to > simpits-tech@simpits.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > simpits-tech-request@simpits.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Simpits-tech digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. R: [simpits-tech] Simpit_org members (Davide) > 2. R: [simpits-tech] How 1 hour becomes 3+ (Progress update) (Davide) > 3. Re: R: [simpits-tech] How 1 hour becomes 3+ (Progress update) (Gene Buckle) > 4. Master Caution Panel Lightbox (Allen Buffington) > 5. Re: Master Caution Panel Lightbox (Marv De Beque) > 6. Link trainer idea (paul needham) > 7. I'm so happy! (Sean Galbraith) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > From: "Davide" > To: > Subject: R: [simpits-tech] Simpit_org members > Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 00:16:40 +0100 > Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org > > Dear Justin, > here i'm ! > > Dave > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Justin Messenger > To: > Sent: Tusday, February 26, 2002 7:52 PM > Subject: [simpits-tech] Simpit_org members > > > > Simpit_org members need to be sure and check the org > > list, there is something we need to discuss and > > possibly vote on. > > > > Justin > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games > > http://sports.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Simpits-tech mailing list > > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > From: "Davide" > To: > Subject: R: [simpits-tech] How 1 hour becomes 3+ (Progress update) > Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 00:49:39 +0100 > Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_00D3_01C1C184.21F47FC0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > How 1 hour becomes 3+ (Progress update)Nice Work Wiebe !=20 > I think i'll need your help to lights up my instruments. > Hope not to borry with a "river" of questions. > > too late to begin ! .... > > http://www.geocities.com/fox_two_64/Eng.html > > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: Wiebe, Alex=20 > To: 'simpits-tech@simpits.org'=20 > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 5:08 PM > Subject: [simpits-tech] How 1 hour becomes 3+ (Progress update) > > > What a night! A while back a managed to assemble my HSI gauge, but = > hadn't found time to get the software working. Over the weekend I = > grabbed WideFS (thanks Gene for the pointer) and last night I started = > tackling more then one problem at once (never a good sign). I've been = > staying up far too late over the last few nights, and had decided to = > give my pit a good 1 hour, and then go to bed. I even set my watch alarm = > to 9:50PM to remind myself to be responsible and get some sleep... > > I rewote my > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sat Mar 2 22:18:09 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Katy Pluta) Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 15:18:09 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] AGP Card Help In-Reply-To: <002001c1c22e$48feb220$27c5b542@b8n9j0> Message-ID: <003701c1c238$23023970$6501a8c0@inet> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01C1C1FD.76A36170 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark, What is your new AGP card? Manufacturer, model, drivers? What OS? What problem? Best Katy -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org] On Behalf Of mine Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 2:08 PM To: simpits-tech@simpits.org Subject: [simpits-tech] AGP Card Help Hey Everyone. Just back into doing the pit things and have another computer finally something up to date the only problem is it seems that I can't get FS2000 to work with my AGP card very well.. Is there something I am missing it works much better with my older 3dfx card.. Any help would be great. Thanks mark ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01C1C1FD.76A36170 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Mark,
 
What=20 is your new AGP card? Manufacturer, model, drivers? What OS? What=20 problem?
 
 
Best
Katy
 
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org] = On=20 Behalf Of mine
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 2:08=20 PM
To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
Subject: = [simpits-tech]=20 AGP Card Help

Hey Everyone.
 
Just back into doing the pit things = and have=20 another computer finally something up to date the only problem is it = seems=20 that I can't get FS2000 to work with my AGP card very well.. Is there=20 something I am missing it works much better with my older 3dfx card.. = Any help=20 would be great.
 
Thanks
mark
 
------=_NextPart_000_0038_01C1C1FD.76A36170-- From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sun Mar 3 04:16:21 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (mine) Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 23:16:21 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] AGP Card Help References: <003701c1c238$23023970$6501a8c0@inet> Message-ID: <000b01c1c26a$2da9cff0$27c5b542@b8n9j0> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C1C240.44135E20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MessageOk the card is a Siluro gf4 mx AGP with windows 2000. The problem = is this when i am in the display settings for fs i normally can check = [use hardware acceleration] however i can not choose the AGP card AND = graphics acceleration. and the picture is just awful it looks like an = old card.=20 Mark=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Katy Pluta=20 To: simpits-tech@simpits.org=20 Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 5:18 PM Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] AGP Card Help Mark, What is your new AGP card? Manufacturer, model, drivers? What OS? What = problem? Best Katy -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org = [mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org] On Behalf Of mine Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 2:08 PM To: simpits-tech@simpits.org Subject: [simpits-tech] AGP Card Help Hey Everyone.=20 Just back into doing the pit things and have another computer = finally something up to date the only problem is it seems that I can't = get FS2000 to work with my AGP card very well.. Is there something I am = missing it works much better with my older 3dfx card.. Any help would be = great.=20 Thanks=20 mark=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C1C240.44135E20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Ok the card is a Siluro gf4 mx AGP with = windows=20 2000. The problem is this when i am in the display settings for fs i = normally=20 can check [use hardware acceleration] however i can not choose the AGP = card AND=20 graphics acceleration. and the picture is just awful it looks like an = old card.=20
 
Mark
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Katy=20 Pluta
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 = 5:18=20 PM
Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] AGP = Card=20 Help

Mark,
 
What=20 is your new AGP card? Manufacturer, model, drivers? What OS? What=20 problem?
 
 
Best
Katy
 
-----Original Message-----
From: simpits-tech-admin@simpits= .org=20 [mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org] On Behalf Of=20 mine
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 2:08 = PM
To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
= Subject:=20 [simpits-tech] AGP Card Help

Hey Everyone.
 
Just back into doing the pit things = and have=20 another computer finally something up to date the only problem is it = seems=20 that I can't get FS2000 to work with my AGP card very well.. Is = there=20 something I am missing it works much better with my older 3dfx = card.. Any=20 help would be great.
 
Thanks
mark
 
------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C1C240.44135E20-- From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sun Mar 3 13:49:30 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Stig Joergensen) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 14:49:30 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] AGP Card Help Message-ID: <1463224A44C62243973321FB317A34E10F57@exchange.clearsky.dk> Check http://www.abit-usa.com/ for a driver update (it is an abit card right?), and get directx 8.1 from m$ /Stig -----Original Message----- From: mine [mailto:snar5@mags.net] Sent: 3. marts 2002 05:16 To: simpits-tech@simpits.org Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] AGP Card Help Ok the card is a Siluro gf4 mx AGP with windows 2000. The problem is this when i am in the display settings for fs i normally can check [use hardware acceleration] however i can not choose the AGP card AND graphics acceleration. and the picture is just awful it looks like an old card. Mark From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sun Mar 3 15:52:26 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Prohm) Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2002 22:52:26 +0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] Simpit_org members In-Reply-To: <003301c1bf0e$6cd302a0$6401a8c0@ne.mediaone.net> Message-ID: > That's still alive!? > > Steve Why not ? :-) Do you remember the old day ,Steve ? Officer room still available. To you guys that might confuse, the Org' list is for Simpits officers who donate thier time to work for the group... such as website update,writing article,push up some activity...... -- Prohm Snitwong prohm@prohm.com http://www.prohm.com From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sun Mar 3 19:21:05 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Katy Pluta) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 12:21:05 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] AGP Card Help In-Reply-To: <000b01c1c26a$2da9cff0$27c5b542@b8n9j0> Message-ID: <003601c1c2e8$935d48d0$6501a8c0@inet> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C1C2AD.E6FE70D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark, Delete the fs2002.cfg file Best Katy -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org] On Behalf Of mine Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 9:16 PM To: simpits-tech@simpits.org Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] AGP Card Help Ok the card is a Siluro gf4 mx AGP with windows 2000. The problem is this when i am in the display settings for fs i normally can check [use hardware acceleration] however i can not choose the AGP card AND graphics acceleration. and the picture is just awful it looks like an old card. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: Katy Pluta To: simpits-tech@simpits.org Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 5:18 PM Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] AGP Card Help Mark, What is your new AGP card? Manufacturer, model, drivers? What OS? What problem? Best Katy -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org] On Behalf Of mine Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 2:08 PM To: simpits-tech@simpits.org Subject: [simpits-tech] AGP Card Help Hey Everyone. Just back into doing the pit things and have another computer finally something up to date the only problem is it seems that I can't get FS2000 to work with my AGP card very well.. Is there something I am missing it works much better with my older 3dfx card.. Any help would be great. Thanks mark ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C1C2AD.E6FE70D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Mark,
 
Delete=20 the fs2002.cfg file
 
 
Best
Katy
 
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org] = On=20 Behalf Of mine
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 9:16=20 PM
To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
Subject: Re:=20 [simpits-tech] AGP Card Help

Ok the card is a Siluro gf4 mx AGP = with windows=20 2000. The problem is this when i am in the display settings for fs i = normally=20 can check [use hardware acceleration] however i can not choose the AGP = card=20 AND graphics acceleration. and the picture is just awful it looks like = an old=20 card.
 
Mark
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Katy=20 Pluta
Sent: Saturday, March 02, = 2002 5:18=20 PM
Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] = AGP Card=20 Help

Mark,
 
What is your new AGP card? Manufacturer, model, drivers? = What OS?=20 What problem?
 
 
Best
Katy
 
-----Original Message-----
From: = simpits-tech-admin@simpits= .org=20 [mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org] On Behalf Of=20 mine
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 2:08 = PM
To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
= Subject:=20 [simpits-tech] AGP Card Help

Hey Everyone.
 
Just back into doing the pit = things and have=20 another computer finally something up to date the only problem is = it seems=20 that I can't get FS2000 to work with my AGP card very well.. Is = there=20 something I am missing it works much better with my older 3dfx = card.. Any=20 help would be great.
 
Thanks
mark
=
 
------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C1C2AD.E6FE70D0-- From simpits-tech@simpits.org Mon Mar 4 01:04:05 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Sukit, Sittisudjatum) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 20:04:05 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] I'm so happy! Message-ID: What a trip you had Sean? !!!! I guess that you held your breath for 100 times during the trip :) Thank you for those guys who gave you a chance to be in and out. Here in my country... I have a very funny joke to tell. I stopped by the Air Force Museum few weeks ago (after more than 10 times there) for killing the Sunday afternoon. I finally stopped at the Jet hangar and tried to get more closer to the F-86F Super Sabre's cockpit. Within a sec, the guard came to me and asked what I was doing. I simply answered 'just wanna see inside, can I?' ... He starred at me and ... from his voice, I can feel how the old damn stories of these Jurassic aged RTAF guys always do to the visitor like me!. He said 'This is a TOP secret of RTAF', period !!!!! ROFL The situation will be turned upside down if I was born in a family that my father is a RTAF high ranking commander. I could even climb into the viper cockpit and take a full measurement for a day!!! I'm so unhappy! Sukit Sittisudjatum Bangkok, Thailand > -----Original Message----- > From: Sean Galbraith [SMTP:sean.g@paradise.net.nz] > Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 5:52 PM > To: Simpits List > Subject: [simpits-tech] I'm so happy! > > I had the most amazing afternoon yesterday! > > I got an invite to take some photos and dimensions of the last remaining > RNZAF A-4's. Saddled up with cameras, digital and SLR, tape measure, > notebook and a heap of questions.... > > I got the whole buck-fifty tour, all over the jet inside and out, snapped > a > few photos then an avionics tech wandered over. I showed him some pics of > > my 'pit and he got all interested and offered the grand tour of the > avionics suite in the aircraft. I now know what 90% of the knobs and > buttons do, and even got a run-down on the radar (non-emitting test mode > only) and HUD. This guy was a true enthusiast, and when I said that I > planned on building a HUD for my pit he said "good luck" :) Then I got a > really detailed run down on the optics of the HUD (and the HUD recording > system) which I will have to go over (yes I tooks notes) before I actually > > understand what he said!!! > > In the end I only took about 20 digi pix, and a handful of print shots, > mainly because the box full of stuff they kept giving me just got too damn > > heavy! > I remember reading an article that Justin wrote, in it he said something > about if you ever intend using real parts in your cockpit make sure you > get > the dimensions right. I thought "I'll NEVER be able to get real parts, so > > that don't apply to me", I did make the dimensions of my pit right, which > is now paying off... The box I was referring to ended up being filled with > > all kinds of useful (to me) junk (to them) like Gear handle, ground power > select switch, instrument glasses, static vent covers, pitot tube covers, > wing tip NAV lights, and formation lights (don't know what I'll use them > for but...) > > The Air Force team are building a TA-4 out of junk, the nose is from a BDR > > trainer, originally a US Navy TA-4J, the rear fuse is from an A-4K, as is > one wing (don't even remember where the other one came from!) etc etc, > anyway they are building up the cockpits as they were when the jets > arrived > in 1972, and they are doing a lot of things just like we all are! They > don't have all the avionics boxes, since most where replaced in the '90s > when the aircraft were updated and so have to build replicas.... Very > cool > stuff too, I hope to get back over there to take some more photos of the > restoration, there may be some very useful stuff for us in what they are > doing! > > After the tour of the hangar I was chatting to my guide who works in > Aircrew Life Support Equipment (ALSE), very interesting guy he was too, > showed me the in's and out's of the Escapac ejection seat and all the > associated harnesses and clothing. I mentioned to him that I was having > all kinds of trouble finding the Koch fittings for my seat, (not the > easiest thing to find on the market here in NZ!) he said that the fittings > > were always being checked, and even the smallest defect would see them > tagged U/S and thrown out! He rummaged around his desk and found me a > pair! (I have looked all over them and cant for the life of me find > anything wrong with them!) I was gobsmaked! This sort of thing NEVER > happens to me, I could not stop thanking the guy.... Finally after > looking > over the other seats and safety gear (He also had a Martin Baker seat out > of a Macchi in the bay) we were about to head out when I happened to > glance > into the trash can (is that a common habit among simpit builders? Hell > yes!) and what did I see? a dark visor for the latest Alpha flight helmets > > (UK manufactured lightweight fast jet helmets) I asked if he was *really* > throwing that out, and he said "do you want it?", no sooner was I diving > into the trash can..... I now have in my hot sweaty hands, 2 sets of clear > > and dark visors, apparently scratched.... > > What a trip, and the best part is I got an invite to go back again! > > Sean G. > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! From simpits-tech@simpits.org Tue Mar 5 02:14:35 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Rod Dale) Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 18:14:35 -0800 Subject: [simpits-tech] Simpit_org members In-Reply-To: References: <003301c1bf0e$6cd302a0$6401a8c0@ne.mediaone.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020304181308.00a12a80@mail.castle.net.au> > >Why not ? :-) Do you remember the old day ,Steve ? >Officer room still available. > >To you guys that might confuse, the Org' list is for Simpits officers who >donate thier time to work for the group... such as website update,writing >article,push up some activity...... Executive toilet, mini bar, sauna etc ???? :-) Rod > -- >Prohm Snitwong >prohm@prohm.com >http://www.prohm.com > > > >_______________________________________________ >Simpits-tech mailing list >Simpits-tech@simpits.org >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above >page. Thanks! From simpits-tech@simpits.org Mon Mar 4 07:54:01 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Rob Hommel) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 23:54:01 -0800 Subject: [simpits-tech] Simpit_org members References: <003301c1bf0e$6cd302a0$6401a8c0@ne.mediaone.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20020304181308.00a12a80@mail.castle.net.au> Message-ID: <012001c1c351$bfe41e10$61de08d0@betty> As you noticed Rod they also get to take a load of manure from the list membership. I for one would send a truckload to Prohm if he doesn't update the website at least monthly. As for the general membership if any of you want to help him out and write an article for the site I am certain he will post it. Keep 'em Flying Rob Hommel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Dale" To: Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 6:14 PM Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Simpit_org members > > > > >Why not ? :-) Do you remember the old day ,Steve ? > >Officer room still available. > > > >To you guys that might confuse, the Org' list is for Simpits officers who > >donate thier time to work for the group... such as website update,writing > >article,push up some activity...... > > Executive toilet, mini bar, sauna etc ???? :-) > > Rod > > > > -- > >Prohm Snitwong > >prohm@prohm.com > >http://www.prohm.com > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Simpits-tech mailing list > >Simpits-tech@simpits.org > >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > >page. Thanks! > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > From simpits-tech@simpits.org Mon Mar 4 08:21:56 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (A.Y.) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 19:21:56 +1100 Subject: [simpits-tech] A quick question re a post a few days ago. Message-ID: <004401c1c355$a69c9280$0200a8c0@shizznit> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C1C3B1.D95468E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think Derek posted this site for our enjoyment a few days ago. http://164.214.2.62/products/digitalaero/terminals/v0202/PACIFIC_AUSTRALA= SIA_ANTARCTICA/=20 I looked and couldnt find the info on my home city Sydney Kingsford = Smith International Airport. I live relatively close to the flight = path...would love to find out how they do take off and landing there. = Does anyone have info for that? While the timing is perfect. I am being taught how to fly SID and STAR = using instrucments only in my virtual fighter squad using F4Sp2...and = amazingly it does work. I said to my friend who was teaching me..."I = feel like I am flying a heavy looking at all the instrucments rather = than using visual cue on my HUD". This and along with a chat with a few = friends who play FS2k2 and own "virtual airlines" shown me the = "whazzup" software by one of this group's member. I was truely amazed by = the level of sophistication, human ATC interaction, and flying not alone = but with many other pilots on the same server in the sky around the = world (previously, i thought FS2k is single player sim). Suddenly, I realise flying heavies can actually be fun :) . Previously, = I can only fly jets that has weapons on them...I guess I have entered = staged two of my flightsim addiction....soon I will be terminally ill = and stop respond to treatment to stop me glued inside the cockpit! LOL=20 Also, I would love to get some opinion on Xplane and FS2k2. I want to = buy one or the other. Read the info on each site, they both look very = impressive and heaps of add on coming from third party. I downloaded the = Xplane demo, but my video card can do open GL so that was no go...so I = am leaning towards MS FS for now. Cheers, Albert Sydney, Australia ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C1C3B1.D95468E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I think Derek posted this site for our = enjoyment a=20 few days ago.
 
http://164.214.2.62/products/digitalaero/termina= ls/v0202/PACIFIC_AUSTRALASIA_ANTARCTICA/ 
 
I looked and couldnt find the info on = my home city=20 Sydney Kingsford Smith International Airport. I live relatively close to = the=20 flight path...would love to find out how they do take off and landing = there.=20 Does anyone have info for that?

While the timing is perfect. I am being taught how to fly SID = and STAR=20 using instrucments only in my virtual fighter squad using F4Sp2...and = amazingly=20 it does work. I said to my friend who was teaching me..."I feel like I = am flying=20 a heavy looking at all the instrucments rather than using visual cue on = my HUD".=20 This and along with a chat with a few friends who play FS2k2 and own = "virtual=20 airlines" shown me the  "whazzup" software by one of this = group's=20 member. I was truely amazed by the level of sophistication, human ATC=20 interaction, and flying not alone but with many other pilots on the same = server=20 in the sky around the world (previously, i thought FS2k is single player = sim).
 
Suddenly, I realise flying heavies can actually be fun :) .=20 Previously, I can only fly jets that has weapons on them...I = guess I have=20 entered staged two of my flightsim addiction....soon I will be = terminally=20 ill and stop respond to treatment to stop me glued inside the cockpit! = LOL=20
 
Also, I would love to get some opinion on Xplane and FS2k2. I want = to buy=20 one or the other. Read the info on each site, they both look very = impressive and=20 heaps of add on coming from third party. I downloaded the Xplane demo, = but my=20 video card can do open GL so that was no go...so I am leaning towards MS = FS for=20 now.

Cheers,
 
 
Albert
Sydney, Australia
------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C1C3B1.D95468E0-- From simpits-tech@simpits.org Mon Mar 4 08:25:11 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Sukit, Sittisudjatum) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 03:25:11 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] A quick question re a post a few days ago. Message-ID: Hi Al, Seems that you just found another passion, didn't you? Flying in the net via IVAO is one of the most interesting experience. Once you jump in the plane, request for start up, req. for taxi, take off. ..... until shut down your plane at the destination airport, you can tell yourself how much fun you could have with FS2K (actually since FS98). I seldom flew in this environment since I have no time... but I did pay back to the community by giving Thai simmers a 40-page handbook teaching them how to enjoy themselves with IVAO, Whazzup, Squawkbox, etc. And I'm so glad that many of Thai simmers have earned their official (virtual) pilot ranking with IVAO already. To be a certified IVAO pilots, you must have enough flight hours, and good records. When the time come, IVAO will give you the on-line exam, and it's not easy to pass! Flying in this MP environment is so much fun,.... but you must dedicate double of your free time to complete a single flight. While you can enjoy a number of missions in F4SP2 (cause you're being shot down more often !!! LOL) Sukit 'Smart' Sittisudjatum Bangkok, Thailand. > -----Original Message----- > From: A.Y. [SMTP:shizznit@ihug.com.au] > Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 3:22 PM > To: simpits-tech@simpits.org > Subject: [simpits-tech] A quick question re a post a few days ago. > > I think Derek posted this site for our enjoyment a few days ago. > > SIA_ANTARCTICA/> > > I looked and couldnt find the info on my home city Sydney Kingsford Smith > International Airport. I live relatively close to the flight path...would > love to find out how they do take off and landing there. Does anyone have > info for that? > > While the timing is perfect. I am being taught how to fly SID and STAR > using instrucments only in my virtual fighter squad using F4Sp2...and > amazingly it does work. I said to my friend who was teaching me..."I feel > like I am flying a heavy looking at all the instrucments rather than using > visual cue on my HUD". This and along with a chat with a few friends who > play FS2k2 and own "virtual airlines" shown me the "whazzup" software by > one of this group's member. I was truely amazed by the level of > sophistication, human ATC interaction, and flying not alone but with many > other pilots on the same server in the sky around the world (previously, i > thought FS2k is single player sim). > > Suddenly, I realise flying heavies can actually be fun :) . Previously, I > can only fly jets that has weapons on them...I guess I have entered staged > two of my flightsim addiction....soon I will be terminally ill and stop > respond to treatment to stop me glued inside the cockpit! LOL > > Also, I would love to get some opinion on Xplane and FS2k2. I want to buy > one or the other. Read the info on each site, they both look very > impressive and heaps of add on coming from third party. I downloaded the > Xplane demo, but my video card can do open GL so that was no go...so I am > leaning towards MS FS for now. > > Cheers, > > > Albert > Sydney, Australia From simpits-tech@simpits.org Mon Mar 4 14:54:47 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Mark Thorburn) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 09:54:47 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] AGP Card Working Message-ID: <004201c1c38c$89927880$14d3a8c0@wflagg> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C1C362.9E834960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks to those who helped with the graphic card. Its seems the BIOS was = the key. I played around in there some and it seems to be working = although to be honest not much better than the Voodoo card. Anyone have = any recommendations on a graphics card? I need to buy another one but = not sure if I will buy the same card? . Thanks again to those that = helped. Also I didn't mentionin my configuration that it was a Athlon XP = 1.8. I am not sure if it just an issue with that chipset or if its not = that good a card.=20 Mark Thorburn=20 Electronic Services=20 Wepawaug Flagg FCU mthorburn@wffcu.org ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C1C362.9E834960 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks to those who helped with=20 the graphic card. Its seems the BIOS was the key. I played around = in there=20 some and it seems to be working although to be honest not much better = than the=20 Voodoo card. Anyone have any recommendations on a graphics card? I need = to buy=20 another one but not sure if I will buy the same card? . Thanks again to = those=20 that helped. Also I didn't mentionin my configuration that it was a = Athlon XP=20 1.8. I am not sure if it just an issue with that chipset or if its not = that=20 good  a card.
 
Mark Thorburn
Electronic Services =
Wepawaug=20 Flagg FCU
mthorburn@wffcu.org
<= /BODY> ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C1C362.9E834960-- From simpits-tech@simpits.org Mon Mar 4 15:20:57 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Erwin Neyt) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 16:20:57 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] AGP Card Working Message-ID: <94F5FC70101ED311A57A00C095FAD9B7BE9A07@URANUS> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1C390.2EC51760 Content-Type: text/plain nVidea GF3 seems to be a good choice, but but sure NOT to buy the MX version. Erwin. -----Original Message----- From: Mark Thorburn [mailto:snar5@mags.net] Sent: maandag 4 maart 2002 15:55 To: Simpits-tech@simpits.org Subject: [simpits-tech] AGP Card Working Thanks to those who helped with the graphic card. Its seems the BIOS was the key. I played around in there some and it seems to be working although to be honest not much better than the Voodoo card. Anyone have any recommendations on a graphics card? I need to buy another one but not sure if I will buy the same card? . Thanks again to those that helped. Also I didn't mentionin my configuration that it was a Athlon XP 1.8. I am not sure if it just an issue with that chipset or if its not that good a card. Mark Thorburn Electronic Services Wepawaug Flagg FCU mthorburn@wffcu.org ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1C390.2EC51760 Content-Type: text/html Message
nVidea GF3 seems to be a good choice, but but sure NOT to buy the MX version.
 
Erwin.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Thorburn [mailto:snar5@mags.net]
Sent: maandag 4 maart 2002 15:55
To: Simpits-tech@simpits.org
Subject: [simpits-tech] AGP Card Working

Thanks to those who helped with the graphic card. Its seems the BIOS was the key. I played around in there some and it seems to be working although to be honest not much better than the Voodoo card. Anyone have any recommendations on a graphics card? I need to buy another one but not sure if I will buy the same card? . Thanks again to those that helped. Also I didn't mentionin my configuration that it was a Athlon XP 1.8. I am not sure if it just an issue with that chipset or if its not that good  a card.
 
Mark Thorburn
Electronic Services
Wepawaug Flagg FCU
mthorburn@wffcu.org
------_=_NextPart_001_01C1C390.2EC51760-- From simpits-tech@simpits.org Mon Mar 4 15:41:15 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Stig Joergensen) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 16:41:15 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] AGP Card Working Message-ID: <1463224A44C62243973321FB317A34E1B3B6@exchange.clearsky.dk> Or as im planning, a ATI radeon 8500 (with 128 mb ram - if "time" permits it) /Stig -----Original Message----- From: Erwin Neyt [mailto:rwntn@hvv.nl] Sent: 4. marts 2002 16:21 To: 'simpits-tech@simpits.org' Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] AGP Card Working nVidea GF3 seems to be a good choice, but but sure NOT to buy the MX version. Erwin. -----Original Message----- From: Mark Thorburn [mailto:snar5@mags.net] Sent: maandag 4 maart 2002 15:55 To: Simpits-tech@simpits.org Subject: [simpits-tech] AGP Card Working Thanks to those who helped with the graphic card. Its seems the BIOS was the key. I played around in there some and it seems to be working although to be honest not much better than the Voodoo card. Anyone have any recommendations on a graphics card? I need to buy another one but not sure if I will buy the same card? . Thanks again to those that helped. Also I didn't mentionin my configuration that it was a Athlon XP 1.8. I am not sure if it just an issue with that chipset or if its not that good a card. Mark Thorburn Electronic Services Wepawaug Flagg FCU mthorburn@wffcu.org From simpits-tech@simpits.org Mon Mar 4 17:32:05 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 09:32:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] AGP Card Working In-Reply-To: <004201c1c38c$89927880$14d3a8c0@wflagg> Message-ID: Mark, is your video board a GeForce board of some kind? If so, have you downloaded & installed the newest drivers from the NVidia website? g. > Thanks to those who helped with the graphic card. Its seems the BIOS was the key. I played around in there some and it seems to be working although to be honest not much better than the Voodoo card. Anyone have any recommendations on a graphics card? I need to buy another one but not sure if I will buy the same card? . Thanks again to those that helped. Also I didn't mentionin my configuration that it was a Athlon XP 1.8. I am not sure if it just an issue with that chipset or if its not that good a card. > > Mark Thorburn > Electronic Services > Wepawaug Flagg FCU > mthorburn@wffcu.org > -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Mon Mar 4 16:43:56 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Mark Thorburn) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 11:43:56 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] AGP Card Working References: Message-ID: <008501c1c39b$c7031620$14d3a8c0@wflagg> Its a Siluro GF4 MX.. I went to the site but no downloads for that card (that I saw were available). Why not a GF4 Erwin...?? Mark Thorburn Electronic Services Wepawaug Flagg FCU mthorburn@wffcu.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Buckle" To: Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 12:32 PM Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] AGP Card Working > Mark, is your video board a GeForce board of some kind? If so, have you > downloaded & installed the newest drivers from the NVidia website? > > g. > > > Thanks to those who helped with the graphic card. Its seems the BIOS was the key. I played around in there some and it seems to be working although to be honest not much better than the Voodoo card. Anyone have any recommendations on a graphics card? I need to buy another one but not sure if I will buy the same card? . Thanks again to those that helped. Also I didn't mentionin my configuration that it was a Athlon XP 1.8. I am not sure if it just an issue with that chipset or if its not that good a card. > > > > Mark Thorburn > > Electronic Services > > Wepawaug Flagg FCU > > mthorburn@wffcu.org > > > > -- > "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > > From simpits-tech@simpits.org Mon Mar 4 18:53:30 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 10:53:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] AGP Card Working In-Reply-To: <008501c1c39b$c7031620$14d3a8c0@wflagg> Message-ID: On Mon, 4 Mar 2002, Mark Thorburn wrote: > Its a Siluro GF4 MX.. I went to the site but no downloads for that card > (that I saw were available). > So it's a GeForce 4 MX? If so, the standard NVidia Detonator drivers should work with it. Keep in mind that the GeForce 4 MX board is the _bottom_ of the barrel for the GeForce 4 line and the GeForce 3 MX is actually faster. g. -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Mon Mar 4 20:11:05 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Justin Messenger) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 12:11:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] I'm so happy! Message-ID: <20020304201105.33085.qmail@web10007.mail.yahoo.com> Sean, that is so cool! That sounds like a dream come true to me! I admit I've been in a few trash cans myself:) The other day in St Louis I was trying to get a close up look at a UPS DC-8, but they told me to leave. Some times you win, some time you loose :) But it's worth a try. Justin ---- What a trip, and the best part is I got an invite to go back again! Sean G. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - sign up for Fantasy Baseball http://sports.yahoo.com From simpits-tech@simpits.org Mon Mar 4 22:40:19 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 14:40:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] I'm so happy! In-Reply-To: <20020304201105.33085.qmail@web10007.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > The other day in St Louis I was trying to get a close > up look at a UPS DC-8, but they told me to leave. Some > times you win, some time you loose :) But it's worth a > try. > Justin, you might want to keep a little folder of photos with you. Next time, you can whip out your wallet and show 'em your "baby". Chances are pretty good they'll be more likely to play ball. :) g. -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Mon Mar 4 21:42:09 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (c.vanlierop) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 22:42:09 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] F16 Gearhandle References: <004401c1c355$a69c9280$0200a8c0@shizznit> Message-ID: <015101c1c3c5$6fca7f40$0200a8c0@SpeedOne> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_014E_01C1C3CD.D14BC3C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I've been working very hard the last 2 weeks on an F16 Gearhandle-replica. Now that it's finished, I'd like to show it (off ;-) to you. It is functional in that it is 'forced' (by a spring) in the down and up position and I already included a microswitch that's activated when the handle is in the 'gear down' position. I chose not to make the 'down permission button' and the 'down lock release button' functional as it would make the construction many times more complicated for little gain in 'realism'.... 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[simpits-tech] F16 Gearhandle References: <004401c1c355$a69c9280$0200a8c0@shizznit> Message-ID: <015e01c1c3c5$9c1e7560$0200a8c0@SpeedOne> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_015B_01C1C3CD.FDC14BA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I've been working very hard the last 2 weeks on an F16 Gearhandle-replica. Now that it's finished, I'd like to show it (off ;-) to you. It is functional in that it is 'forced' (by a spring) in the down and up position and I already included a microswitch that's activated when the handle is in the 'gear down' position. I chose not to make the 'down permission button' and the 'down lock release button' functional as it would make the construction many times more complicated for little gain in 'realism'.... Don't mind the white paint on the handle, it's only primer yet. All parts need some extra layers of paint before it's 'really' finished. I think I'll make a How-To in the future but at the moment I'm working hard on the 'arm rest' and the rarely used 'wrist rest'.... kind greetings, Chris "SpeedOne" Van Lierop ------=_NextPart_000_015B_01C1C3CD.FDC14BA0 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="gearhandle2.jpg" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="gearhandle2.jpg" /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAgAAZABkAAD/7AARRHVja3kAAQAEAAAALQAA/+4ADkFkb2JlAGTAAAAAAf/b AIQACgcHBwgHCggICg4JCAkOEQ0KCg0RFBAQERAQFBMPERAQEQ8TExcXGRcXEx4eICAeHiwrKyss MTExMTExMTExMQELCQkLDAsNCwsNEQ4ODhEUDg4ODhQXEBAREBAXHhYTExMTFh4bHRkZGR0bISEe HiEhKSkoKSkxMTExMTExMTEx/8AAEQgAzQEeAwEiAAIRAQMRAf/EAKMAAAEFAQEBAAAAAAAAAAAA AAMAAQIEBgUHCAEAAwEBAQEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAECAwQFBhAAAQMCBAMGAwYDBQcFAAAAAQACAxEE ITESBUFRE2FxkSIUBjJCI4GhsVIVB8HRYnKSsnMk4fGCojNTRMJDY7MlEQACAgEDAwMDAgUFAAAA AAAAARECAyExElETBEFhBXEiMoGRoeFCUhSx0WIjFf/aAAwDAQACEQMRAD8A6xSak5M1ZmgTgnYo 1wSaUAGJwTNzTVwSBVCDDJMUgcExKYFm1PmXQC5tsfMui04K67EPckkmqlVWIZMkUqoASQKaqaqB 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[simpits-tech] F16 Gearhandle References: <004401c1c355$a69c9280$0200a8c0@shizznit> Message-ID: <016201c1c3c5$9ffb3a60$0200a8c0@SpeedOne> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_015F_01C1C3CE.007918A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I've been working very hard the last 2 weeks on an F16 Gearhandle-replica. Now that it's finished, I'd like to show it (off ;-) to you. It is functional in that it is 'forced' (by a spring) in the down and up position and I already included a microswitch that's activated when the handle is in the 'gear down' position. I chose not to make the 'down permission button' and the 'down lock release button' functional as it would make the construction many times more complicated for little gain in 'realism'.... Don't mind the white paint on the handle, it's only primer yet. All parts need some extra layers of paint before it's 'really' finished. I think I'll make a How-To in the future but at the moment I'm working hard on the 'arm rest' and the rarely used 'wrist rest'.... kind greetings, Chris "SpeedOne" Van Lierop ------=_NextPart_000_015F_01C1C3CE.007918A0 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="gearhandle2.jpg" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="gearhandle2.jpg" /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAgAAZABkAAD/7AARRHVja3kAAQAEAAAALQAA/+4ADkFkb2JlAGTAAAAAAf/b AIQACgcHBwgHCggICg4JCAkOEQ0KCg0RFBAQERAQFBMPERAQEQ8TExcXGRcXEx4eICAeHiwrKyss MTExMTExMTExMQELCQkLDAsNCwsNEQ4ODhEUDg4ODhQXEBAREBAXHhYTExMTFh4bHRkZGR0bISEe HiEhKSkoKSkxMTExMTExMTEx/8AAEQgAzQEeAwEiAAIRAQMRAf/EAKMAAAEFAQEBAAAAAAAAAAAA AAMAAQIEBgUHCAEAAwEBAQEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAECAwQFBhAAAQMCBAMGAwYDBQcFAAAAAQACAxEE ITESBUFRE2FxkSIUBjJCI4GhsVIVB8HRYnKSsnMk4fGCojNTRMJDY7MlEQACAgEDAwMDAgUFAAAA AAAAARECAyExElETBEFhBXEiMoGRoeFCUhSx0WIjFf/aAAwDAQACEQMRAD8A6xSak5M1ZmgTgnYo 1wSaUAGJwTNzTVwSBVCDDJMUgcExKYFm1PmXQC5tsfMui04K67EPckkmqlVWIZMkUqoASQKaqaqB 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[simpits-tech] F16 Gearhandle References: <004401c1c355$a69c9280$0200a8c0@shizznit> <016201c1c3c5$9ffb3a60$0200a8c0@SpeedOne> Message-ID: <002f01c1c3ca$ec5c0bf0$6c9c8418@HOMEPLATE> Nice job Chris, Cant wait for the How-to. Anyway interested in showing it on the Lowland Gorilla meet ? We got a Pitbuilders corner. Jerry will be there with his aimsworth pit, and i will show my progress. Also is there the Gorilla meet, flying in LAN setup with special written TE's Check out http:www.lastresort.nu Missed you the last episode. Biggles. ----- Original Message ----- From: "c.vanlierop" To: Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 10:43 PM Subject: [simpits-tech] F16 Gearhandle > Hi all, > > I've been working very hard the last 2 weeks on an F16 Gearhandle-replica. > Now that it's finished, I'd like to show it (off ;-) to you. It is > functional in that it is 'forced' (by a spring) in the down and up position > and I already included a microswitch that's activated when the handle is in > the 'gear down' position. I chose not to make the 'down permission button' > and the 'down lock release button' functional as it would make the > construction many times more complicated for little gain in 'realism'.... > > Don't mind the white paint on the handle, it's only primer yet. All parts > need some extra layers of paint before it's 'really' finished. > > I think I'll make a How-To in the future but at the moment I'm working hard > on the 'arm rest' and the rarely used 'wrist rest'.... > > kind greetings, > Chris "SpeedOne" Van Lierop > > From simpits-tech@simpits.org Mon Mar 4 22:24:07 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Erwin Neyt) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 23:24:07 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] F16 Gearhandle Message-ID: <94F5FC70101ED311A57A00C095FAD9B7BE9A0F@URANUS> Wow, fantastic job Chris, Erwin. ps. Ik moet weer eens langs komen zie ik :) > -----Original Message----- > From: c.vanlierop [mailto:speedone@chello.nl] > Sent: maandag 4 maart 2002 22:43 > To: simpits-tech@simpits.org > Subject: [simpits-tech] F16 Gearhandle > > > Hi all, > > I've been working very hard the last 2 weeks on an F16 > Gearhandle-replica. Now that it's finished, I'd like to show > it (off ;-) to you. It is functional in that it is 'forced' > (by a spring) in the down and up position and I already > included a microswitch that's activated when the handle is in > the 'gear down' position. I chose not to make the 'down > permission button' and the 'down lock release button' > functional as it would make the construction many times more > complicated for little gain in 'realism'.... > > Don't mind the white paint on the handle, it's only primer > yet. All parts need some extra layers of paint before it's > 'really' finished. > > I think I'll make a How-To in the future but at the moment > I'm working hard on the 'arm rest' and the rarely used 'wrist > rest'.... > > kind greetings, > Chris "SpeedOne" Van Lierop > > From simpits-tech@simpits.org Mon Mar 4 22:22:16 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (simpits-tech@simpits.org) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 17:22:16 EST Subject: [simpits-tech] A-7D on Barnstormers Message-ID: <104.11e593db.29b54d98@aol.com> Hi Guys, Anyone interested in a COOL A-7D cockpit! Check it out at:www. Barnstomers.com only 14K. Steve From simpits-tech@simpits.org Mon Mar 4 22:42:11 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (=?iso-8859-1?q?Ross=20Hutton?=) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 09:42:11 +1100 (EST) Subject: [simpits-tech] A quick question re a post a few days ago. In-Reply-To: <004401c1c355$a69c9280$0200a8c0@shizznit> Message-ID: <20020304224211.50920.qmail@web21003.mail.yahoo.com> --- "A.Y." wrote: > > Also, I would love to get some opinion on Xplane and > FS2k2. I want to buy one or the other. Read the info > on each site, they both look very impressive and > heaps of add on coming from third party. I > downloaded the Xplane demo, but my video card can do > open GL so that was no go...so I am leaning towards > MS FS for now. You could always try try the 'xplane classic' demo. It's extremely small and doesn't require any graphics acceleration. I've always considered xplane to be much better for light aircraft rather than heavies due to its limited systems modelling. Xplane's going through a major teething phase at the moment so I'm not sure if it's the best time to sign up anyway. I have version 5 and am putting off upgrading until version 7. -- Ross ===== -- Ross http://movies.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Movies - Vote for your nominees in our online Oscars pool. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Mon Mar 4 23:10:35 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Marv De Beque) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 18:10:35 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] F16 Gearhandle In-Reply-To: <015101c1c3c5$6fca7f40$0200a8c0@SpeedOne> Message-ID: <08A6A154-2FC5-11D6-9B40-000502DE6569@speakeasy.net> Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Chris, please tell me how you made it! What materials did you use? I am very impressed with the work and anxious to hear how you did it. Please tell all. Inquiring minds want to knw! Marv On Monday, March 4, 2002, at 04:42 PM, c.vanlierop wrote: > Hi all, > > I've been working very hard the last 2 weeks on an F16 > Gearhandle-replica. > Now that it's finished, I'd like to show it (off ;-) to you. It is > functional in that it is 'forced' (by a spring) in the down and up > position > and I already included a microswitch that's activated when the handle > is in > the 'gear down' position. I chose not to make the 'down permission > button' > and the 'down lock release button' functional as it would make the > construction many times more complicated for little gain in > 'realism'.... > > I think I'll make a How-To in the future but at the moment I'm working > hard > on the 'arm rest' and the rarely used 'wrist rest'.... > > kind greetings, > Chris "SpeedOne" Van Lierop > From simpits-tech@simpits.org Mon Mar 4 23:21:00 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Jean-Yves Surfin') Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 00:21:00 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] F16 Gearhandle References: <004401c1c355$a69c9280$0200a8c0@shizznit> <015e01c1c3c5$9c1e7560$0200a8c0@SpeedOne> Message-ID: <002101c1c3d3$58f2afa0$6bf6fea9@surfinjeannot> Yehh Chris ! Super masterpiece of work !! hope to read u soon for a how to, mesurement... JY Surfin' ----- Original Message ----- From: "c.vanlierop" To: Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 10:43 PM Subject: [simpits-tech] F16 Gearhandle > Hi all, > > I've been working very hard the last 2 weeks on an F16 Gearhandle-replica. > Now that it's finished, I'd like to show it (off ;-) to you. It is > functional in that it is 'forced' (by a spring) in the down and up position > and I already included a microswitch that's activated when the handle is in > the 'gear down' position. I chose not to make the 'down permission button' > and the 'down lock release button' functional as it would make the > construction many times more complicated for little gain in 'realism'.... > > Don't mind the white paint on the handle, it's only primer yet. All parts > need some extra layers of paint before it's 'really' finished. > > I think I'll make a How-To in the future but at the moment I'm working hard > on the 'arm rest' and the rarely used 'wrist rest'.... > > kind greetings, > Chris "SpeedOne" Van Lierop > > From simpits-tech@simpits.org Tue Mar 5 00:31:13 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (simpits-tech@simpits.org) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 19:31:13 EST Subject: [simpits-tech] monitor question Message-ID: this is a little off topic but does anyone here know how to hook an arcade monitor up to a PC? i figure with all the tech know-how here SOMEONE must have an idea...thanks in advance Rob From simpits-tech@simpits.org Tue Mar 5 05:56:07 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Sean Galbraith) Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 18:56:07 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] I'm so happy! In-Reply-To: References: <20020304201105.33085.qmail@web10007.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020305185502.025e8cb0@pop3.paradise.net.nz> At 02:40 PM 3/4/02 -0800, you wrote: > > The other day in St Louis I was trying to get a close > > up look at a UPS DC-8, but they told me to leave. Some > > times you win, some time you loose :) But it's worth a > > try. > > >Justin, you might want to keep a little folder of photos with you. Next >time, you can whip out your wallet and show 'em your "baby". Chances are >pretty good they'll be more likely to play ball. :) > >g. > >-- >"I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" >http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. I can't agree more! I got the "civilians tour" until I showed them the photos, then I got the whole "You could probably use this?" routine :) Sean From simpits-tech@simpits.org Tue Mar 5 06:39:32 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (A.Y.) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 17:39:32 +1100 Subject: [simpits-tech] F16 Gearhandle References: <004401c1c355$a69c9280$0200a8c0@shizznit> <015101c1c3c5$6fca7f40$0200a8c0@SpeedOne> Message-ID: <003401c1c410$82c5b380$0200a8c0@shizznit> Chris, Knowing you r the "king" of demostrating how to make the ACE II. I really hope you will document this into a "how to build a gear handle" :) If you need help with laying out diagrams and information then transfering to PDF. I can easily do that with your blessing, just give me the raw diagrams and data to save you time away from your own project. Cheers, Albert Sydney, Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "c.vanlierop" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 8:42 AM Subject: [simpits-tech] F16 Gearhandle > Hi all, > > I've been working very hard the last 2 weeks on an F16 Gearhandle-replica. > Now that it's finished, I'd like to show it (off ;-) to you. It is > functional in that it is 'forced' (by a spring) in the down and up position > and I already included a microswitch that's activated when the handle is in > the 'gear down' position. I chose not to make the 'down permission button' > and the 'down lock release button' functional as it would make the > construction many times more complicated for little gain in 'realism'.... > > I think I'll make a How-To in the future but at the moment I'm working hard > on the 'arm rest' and the rarely used 'wrist rest'.... > > kind greetings, > Chris "SpeedOne" Van Lierop > From simpits-tech@simpits.org Tue Mar 5 06:38:39 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Wombat) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 17:38:39 +1100 Subject: [simpits-tech] Master Caution Panel Lightbox Message-ID: <200203051738.AA86901062@bosnjak.com> Allen, That's exactly the idea I had using balsa wood or stiff plastic to make the matrix to house the LED. I'm working on the backplate to bring the wiring to one juction point and keep the caution panel as one unit. Need to send you some email direct but get the following message; -----msg------------------------------------------------------- "Hi. This is the qmail-send program at teton.sofast.net. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. : user is over quota ------msg---------------------------------------------------------- Please fix and respond back. Regards, Joe [wombat] Bosnjak email: joe@bosnjak.com website: http://www.f-16cockpit.com ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Allen Buffington Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 18:01:23 -0700 >OK, for all of you out there that want to light up your >Master Caution panel with individual lights I have finally >come up with the solution. I don't know why I didn't think >of doing this before now. > >I have created a matrix box that you put together and attach >to the back of the caution light panel. The back plate is >marked for drilling whatever size holes to fit your LED's or >small incandescent bulbs and centers the light source >directly behind the individual caution grid. > >See the attached drawing to better understand what I am >doing. The material is opaque black plastic. The box depth >is 1/2in or 1.27cm. > >I will take some photos of the actual box this weekend and >post them to the simpits site. > >~~Allen >"Loose not thy airspeed, lest the ground rise up and smite >thee" > > > From simpits-tech@simpits.org Tue Mar 5 07:41:24 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Wombat) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 18:41:24 +1100 Subject: [simpits-tech] I'm so happy! Message-ID: <200203051841.AA844759360@bosnjak.com> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This mail message contains standard MIME attachments. If you see this note, your e-mail program does not support MIME. You may need a MIME- compliant mail reader to read any non-text attachments in this message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --==IMail_v5.0== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Sean, I have been following you construction for a while but never had anything to add or ask. I'm always interested in other pits and their builders. Especially if they have a story to tell. And Wow your last post was one that got me excited and inspired. I read it a few times and realised I wasn't networking in my own town. There must be more localy than what I have seen (I thought to myself). Today I visited the Moorabin Air Museum (which I'm a member) and the RAAF Point Cook Museam which I have seen on may ocassions. I managed to talk my way inside the restoration Hanger at Point Cook and was supprised at how much activity there was behind the scenes. Now I don't expect to find F-16 parts but am intrested in establishing some contacts. Sean keep up the good work and here is a pic of a static cockpit I saw today for the first time. It's a Mirage III/0. 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Keep up the good work. Regards, Joe [wombat] Bosnjak email: joe@bosnjak.com website: http://www.f-16cockpit.com ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "c.vanlierop" Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 22:42:09 +0100 >Hi all, > >I've been working very hard the last 2 weeks on an F16 Gearhandle- replica. >Now that it's finished, I'd like to show it (off ;-) to you. It is >functional in that it is 'forced' (by a spring) in the down and up position >and I already included a microswitch that's activated when the handle is in >the 'gear down' position. I chose not to make the 'down permission button' >and the 'down lock release button' functional as it would make the >construction many times more complicated for little gain in 'realism'.... > >I think I'll make a How-To in the future but at the moment I'm working hard >on the 'arm rest' and the rarely used 'wrist rest'.... > >kind greetings, >Chris "SpeedOne" Van Lierop > > From simpits-tech@simpits.org Tue Mar 5 08:17:15 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (A.Y.) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 19:17:15 +1100 Subject: [simpits-tech] A quick question re a post a few days ago. References: <20020304224211.50920.qmail@web21003.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004c01c1c41e$299247c0$0200a8c0@shizznit> thanks for the advice Ross, Might give the classic version a try. Albert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ross Hutton" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] A quick question re a post a few days ago. > --- "A.Y." wrote: > > > > Also, I would love to get some opinion on Xplane and > > FS2k2. I want to buy one or the other. Read the info > > on each site, they both look very impressive and > > heaps of add on coming from third party. I > > downloaded the Xplane demo, but my video card can do > > open GL so that was no go...so I am leaning towards > > MS FS for now. > > You could always try try the 'xplane classic' demo. > It's extremely small and doesn't require any graphics > acceleration. I've always considered xplane to be much > better for light aircraft rather than heavies due to > its limited systems modelling. > > Xplane's going through a major teething phase at the > moment so I'm not sure if it's the best time to sign > up anyway. I have version 5 and am putting off > upgrading until version 7. > > -- > Ross > > > ===== > -- > Ross > > http://movies.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Movies > - Vote for your nominees in our online Oscars pool. > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > From simpits-tech@simpits.org Tue Mar 5 08:27:22 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Prohm) Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 15:27:22 +0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] F16 Gearhandle In-Reply-To: <015101c1c3c5$6fca7f40$0200a8c0@SpeedOne> Message-ID: Chris Did you bought that from Lockheed martin ?? :-) -- Prohm Snitwong prohm@prohm.com http://www.prohm.com From simpits-tech@simpits.org Tue Mar 5 08:45:30 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Sean Galbraith) Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 21:45:30 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] I'm so happy! In-Reply-To: <200203051841.AA844759360@bosnjak.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020305214143.020e0ea0@pop3.paradise.net.nz> At 06:41 PM 3/5/02 +1100, you wrote: >Hi Sean, > >I have been following you construction for a while but never had >anything to add or ask. I'm always interested in other pits and >their builders. Especially if they have a story to tell. And Wow >your last post was one that got me excited and inspired. Aw shucks :) >I read it a few times and realised I wasn't networking in my own >town. There must be more localy than what I have seen (I thought >to myself). I got this contact through a yahoo mailing list where Skyhawk nuts hang out, I got some discussion going on what I was up to, then the offers started appearing out of nowhere :) So far I've had drawings and diagrams, some real in-depth descriptions of how things work, and then the offer of the hangar visit. It all comes from being brave enough to ask :) >Today I visited the Moorabin Air Museum (which I'm a member) and >the RAAF Point Cook Museam which I have seen on may ocassions. I >managed to talk my way inside the restoration Hanger at Point Cook >and was supprised at how much activity there was behind the >scenes. Now I don't expect to find F-16 parts but am intrested in >establishing some contacts. Contacts can lead to more than you ever expect! I thought I was going to be taking photos and came back with more information (and bits) than I ever dreamt! >Sean keep up the good work and here is a pic of a static cockpit I >saw today for the first time. It's a Mirage III/0. And you couldn't drag it home? Bugger :( Sean. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Tue Mar 5 09:18:48 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Wombat) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 20:18:48 +1100 Subject: [simpits-tech] Re: Simpits-tech digest, Vol 1 #77 - 7 msgs Message-ID: <200203052018.AA1353449670@bosnjak.com> Hi CJ, Welcome to the group. Yes I had considered that option early in my sim project but the joy of build the pit myself was to great to pass up. I still buy lots of parts (real and reproduced) to fast track my project. Since you already have the Aimsworth pit and have ordered the AGT panels, we should see a completed pit within a month :-). Do you have a website? I'm keen to monitor your progress. Once again welcome to the group and best of luck with your project. Regards, Joe [wombat] Bosnjak email: joe@bosnjak.com website: http://www.f-16cockpit.com ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "CLYDE HARGIS" Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 13:50:33 -0500 >Hi guys, >My name is CJ....Recently over tha past couple of years I have sat back and read your post trying to get many ideas to use in the construction of my pit. >I recently purchased the Aimsworth F-16 pit, and just placed an order to AGT, for all the panels/guages..... >Im wondering if there any others out there doing the same, and if they would like to share some thoughts/ideas..... >Any feedback would be great! >-CJ > >>>> simpits-tech-request@simpits.org 03/02/02 05:56 AM >>> >Send Simpits-tech mailing list submissions to > simpits-tech@simpits.org > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > simpits-tech-request@simpits.org > >You can reach the person managing the list at > simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Simpits-tech digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. R: [simpits-tech] Simpit_org members (Davide) > 2. R: [simpits-tech] How 1 hour becomes 3+ (Progress update) (Davide) > 3. Re: R: [simpits-tech] How 1 hour becomes 3+ (Progress update) (Gene Buckle) > 4. Master Caution Panel Lightbox (Allen Buffington) > 5. Re: Master Caution Panel Lightbox (Marv De Beque) > 6. Link trainer idea (paul needham) > 7. I'm so happy! (Sean Galbraith) > >--__--__-- > >Message: 1 >From: "Davide" >To: >Subject: R: [simpits-tech] Simpit_org members >Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 00:16:40 +0100 >Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org > >Dear Justin, >here i'm ! > >Dave > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Justin Messenger >To: >Sent: Tusday, February 26, 2002 7:52 PM >Subject: [simpits-tech] Simpit_org members > > >> Simpit_org members need to be sure and check the org >> list, there is something we need to discuss and >> possibly vote on. >> >> Justin >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games >> http://sports.yahoo.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Simpits-tech mailing list >> Simpits-tech@simpits.org >> http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >> To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above >page. Thanks! >> > >--__--__-- > >Message: 2 >From: "Davide" >To: >Subject: R: [simpits-tech] How 1 hour becomes 3+ (Progress update) >Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 00:49:39 +0100 >Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org > >This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > >------=_NextPart_000_00D3_01C1C184.21F47FC0 >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >How 1 hour becomes 3+ (Progress update)Nice Work Wiebe !=20 >I think i'll need your help to lights up my instruments. >Hope not to borry with a "river" of questions. > >too late to begin ! .... > >http://www.geocities.com/fox_two_64/Eng.html > > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: Wiebe, Alex=20 > To: 'simpits-tech@simpits.org'=20 > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 5:08 PM > Subject: [simpits-tech] How 1 hour becomes 3+ (Progress update) > > > What a night! A while back a managed to assemble my HSI gauge, but = >hadn't found time to get the software working. Over the weekend I = >grabbed WideFS (thanks Gene for the pointer) and last night I started = >tackling more then one problem at once (never a good sign). I've been = >staying up far too late over the last few nights, and had decided to = >give my pit a good 1 hour, and then go to bed. I even set my watch alarm = >to 9:50PM to remind myself to be responsible and get some sleep... > > I rewote my >_______________________________________________ >Simpits-tech mailing list >Simpits-tech@simpits.org >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > From simpits-tech@simpits.org Wed Mar 6 04:45:42 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Rod Dale) Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 20:45:42 -0800 Subject: [simpits-tech] F16 Gearhandle In-Reply-To: <015101c1c3c5$6fca7f40$0200a8c0@SpeedOne> References: <004401c1c355$a69c9280$0200a8c0@shizznit> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020305204427.00a221d0@mail.castle.net.au> Nice work Chris, that's a great piece of workmanship !!! Rod From simpits-tech@simpits.org Wed Mar 6 04:59:48 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Rod Dale) Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 20:59:48 -0800 Subject: [simpits-tech] I'm so happy! In-Reply-To: <200203051841.AA844759360@bosnjak.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020305205353.00a23ec0@mail.castle.net.au> Hi Wombat, That Mirage cockpit came from an aircraft that had extensive fire damage after a start that sucked in the intake covers causing a massive engine fire. I helped to build that cockpit for display. It ended up at Fighter World in Williamtown for a number of years. It was sent to Avalon last year for the airshow and ended up at Pt Cook. From my standpoint, that cockpit has a LOT of potential :-) It would be an ideal module for our hobby. Rod At 06:41 PM 3/5/02 +1100, you wrote: >Hi Sean, > >I have been following you construction for a while but never had >anything to add or ask. I'm always interested in other pits and >their builders. Especially if they have a story to tell. And Wow >your last post was one that got me excited and inspired. > >I read it a few times and realised I wasn't networking in my own >town. There must be more localy than what I have seen (I thought >to myself). > >Today I visited the Moorabin Air Museum (which I'm a member) and >the RAAF Point Cook Museam which I have seen on may ocassions. I >managed to talk my way inside the restoration Hanger at Point Cook >and was supprised at how much activity there was behind the >scenes. Now I don't expect to find F-16 parts but am intrested in >establishing some contacts. > >Sean keep up the good work and here is a pic of a static cockpit I >saw today for the first time. It's a Mirage III/0. > > >Regards, > >Joe [wombat] Bosnjak > > > From simpits-tech@simpits.org Tue Mar 5 10:45:02 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Ido Dekkers) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 12:45:02 +0200 Subject: [simpits-tech] I'm so happy! Message-ID: --0__=CDBBE1E0DFA94D928f9e8a93df938690918cCDBBE1E0DFA94D92 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm not totally sure but as i understand, the aux gouges in most of the American jets are the same, so maybe you could get some decommissioned ones. Ido "Wombat" To: Sent by: cc: simpits-tech-admin@ Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] I'm so happy! simpits.org 03/05/2002 09:41 AM Please respond to simpits-tech Hi Sean, I have been following you construction for a while but never had anything to add or ask. I'm always interested in other pits and their builders. Especially if they have a story to tell. And Wow your last post was one that got me excited and inspired. I read it a few times and realised I wasn't networking in my own town. There must be more localy than what I have seen (I thought to myself). Today I visited the Moorabin Air Museum (which I'm a member) and the RAAF Point Cook Museam which I have seen on may ocassions. I managed to talk my way inside the restoration Hanger at Point Cook and was supprised at how much activity there was behind the scenes. Now I don't expect to find F-16 parts but am intrested in establishing some contacts. Sean keep up the good work and here is a pic of a static cockpit I saw today for the first time. It's a Mirage III/0. 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References: <200203050700.XAA07947@uridium.deltasoft.com> Message-ID: <001e01c1c442$83dbf2c0$1918c3d2@user5d5ssa7obr> Ok I get the new format of Simpits mail. I find it a lot better now as it is condensed into 1 mail containing multiple messages but i am finding that any pics that are supposed to be there are just a garbled text. Is there anything I have to do to set this up or to view them elsewhere?? Thanks all. Craig Noticed that there was also a message saying my email does not supoort MIME. Is this anything to do with it? From simpits-tech@simpits.org Tue Mar 5 16:24:25 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 08:24:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] I'm so happy! In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020305185502.025e8cb0@pop3.paradise.net.nz> Message-ID: > >Justin, you might want to keep a little folder of photos with you. Next > >time, you can whip out your wallet and show 'em your "baby". Chances are > >pretty good they'll be more likely to play ball. :) > > > >g. > > > >-- > >"I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" > >http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > > I can't agree more! I got the "civilians tour" until I showed them the > photos, then I got the whole "You could probably use this?" routine :) > Yep! Another thing, avoid the pilots. They can't do a thing for you. Talk to the guys in _power_. The maintenance crew. :) Nothing loosens up a crew dog like a fellow fan. Pilots are nothing more than "stick actuators". :) g. -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Tue Mar 5 16:39:13 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 08:39:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] New format question. In-Reply-To: <001e01c1c442$83dbf2c0$1918c3d2@user5d5ssa7obr> Message-ID: Craig, I set your account to "digest" mode because your mailbox was full and the error messages were piling up over here. :) If you go to http://www.simpits.org/mailman/options/simpits-tech/wcraig%40tm.net.my You can change the send method. g. On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, Craig Wylie wrote: > Ok I get the new format of Simpits mail. > I find it a lot better now as it is condensed into 1 mail containing > multiple messages but i am finding that any pics that are supposed to be > there are just a garbled text. > Is there anything I have to do to set this up or to view them elsewhere?? > Thanks all. > Craig > > Noticed that there was also a message saying my email does not supoort MIME. > Is this anything to do with it? > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > > -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Tue Mar 5 17:58:13 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 09:58:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] I'm so happy! In-Reply-To: <3AA3B26E.2685949E@clt.bellsouth.net> Message-ID: > Gene > > > Yep! Another thing, avoid the pilots. They can't do a thing for > > you. Talk to the guys in _power_. The maintenance crew. :) Nothing > > loosens up a crew dog like a fellow fan. Pilots are nothing more than > > "stick actuators". :) > > Oh - that hurts. Being a pilot and a mechanic - I see a different view > since Iam on both sides of the field. Pilots hate mechanics and > mechanics hate pilots. Both of them can help anyone out with a > simulator. Mechanics know how the airplanes work and the pilot how to > fly them. Both have experence that is worth its weight in gold. > No offense meant Ken. Note the ":)". *grin* The comment holds more to air force types anyway, where there's been a friendly rivalry for decades between those that fly them and those that "own" them. :) g. -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Tue Mar 5 16:56:00 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (simpits-tech@simpits.org) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 16:56:00 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] I'm so happy! Message-ID: <1835109.1015347360136.JavaMail.root@127.0.0.1> Gene, Superb! Couldn't have put it better, put then again, I'm biased, as a few family members are aircraft engineers. Darren > > >Justin, you might want to keep a little folder of photos with you. Next > > >time, you can whip out your wallet and show 'em your "baby". Chances are > > >pretty good they'll be more likely to play ball. :) > > > > > >g. > > > > > >-- > > >"I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" > > >http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > > > > I can't agree more! I got the "civilians tour" until I showed them the > > photos, then I got the whole "You could probably use this?" routine :) > > > Yep! Another thing, avoid the pilots. They can't do a thing for > you. Talk to the guys in _power_. The maintenance crew. :) Nothing > loosens up a crew dog like a fellow fan. Pilots are nothing more than > "stick actuators". :) > > g. > > > -- > "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From simpits-tech@simpits.org Tue Mar 5 19:05:48 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Darren Beaumont) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 19:05:48 -0000 Subject: [simpits-tech] Pilots/Engineers In-Reply-To: <3AA3B26E.2685949E@clt.bellsouth.net> Message-ID: Ken, I think 'hate' is a bit strong. Anyway you ask a pilot a question about flying the aircraft, they tend to look down on you and treat you like an idiot, especially if you mention the words Flight sim. The ironic thing is many pilots I know are 'closet' Flightsim users, but never publicly admit it. One guy went as far as to design and sell panels for FS98. There are of course pilots, who are enthusiastic about flight simulation, but these folks seem to be few and far between. Yet ask an engineer a technical question about the aircraft, you tend to get a decent and very detailed answer. Although this is a generalisation, from personal experience, it isn't that far from the truth. I don't mean to pilot bash, as many friends and colleagues are pilots, but if you want techincal/useful info, from personal experience, speak to the engineers. My very humble opinion as always. Darren -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org]On Behalf Of Ken Trager Sent: 05 March 2001 15:36 To: simpits-tech@simpits.org Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] I'm so happy! Gene > Yep! Another thing, avoid the pilots. They can't do a thing for > you. Talk to the guys in _power_. The maintenance crew. :) Nothing > loosens up a crew dog like a fellow fan. Pilots are nothing more than > "stick actuators". :) Oh - that hurts. Being a pilot and a mechanic - I see a different view since Iam on both sides of the field. Pilots hate mechanics and mechanics hate pilots. Both of them can help anyone out with a simulator. Mechanics know how the airplanes work and the pilot how to fly them. Both have experence that is worth its weight in gold. Pilots are more then "stick actuators" - just like mechanics are more then "cone heads" or "grease monkeys" My two cents Ken Trager _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech@simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From simpits-tech@simpits.org Wed Mar 6 00:00:40 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Craig Wylie) Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 08:00:40 +0800 Subject: [simpits-tech] Thanks Gene Message-ID: <001b01c1c4a1$f5015ad0$1a18c3d2@user5d5ssa7obr> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_wYaLx7OvgYf4N1agZ1ZR/Q) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Thanks Gene. Was away for 3 weeks in the Philippines (not kidnapped at least !!) Mailbox got kinda full over that time hehe Cheers again Craig --Boundary_(ID_wYaLx7OvgYf4N1agZ1ZR/Q) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Thanks Gene.
Was away for 3 weeks in the Philippines (not kidnapped at least !!)
Mailbox got kinda full over that time  hehe
Cheers again
Craig
--Boundary_(ID_wYaLx7OvgYf4N1agZ1ZR/Q)-- From simpits-tech@simpits.org Wed Mar 6 05:02:02 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 21:02:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Thanks Gene In-Reply-To: <001b01c1c4a1$f5015ad0$1a18c3d2@user5d5ssa7obr> Message-ID: On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, Craig Wylie wrote: > Thanks Gene. > Was away for 3 weeks in the Philippines (not kidnapped at least !!) > Mailbox got kinda full over that time hehe > Cheers again > Craig > Hehe. You're welcome. I'm glad to see you survived. Then again, those fscking little ragheads only seem to have a hard on for killing Americans these days. g. -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Tue Mar 5 18:03:46 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Sean Galbraith) Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 07:03:46 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] I'm so happy! In-Reply-To: References: <3AA3B26E.2685949E@clt.bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020306070045.02548060@pop3.paradise.net.nz> At 09:58 AM 3/5/02 -0800, you wrote: > > Gene > > > > > Yep! Another thing, avoid the pilots. They can't do a thing for > > > you. Talk to the guys in _power_. The maintenance crew. :) Nothing > > > loosens up a crew dog like a fellow fan. Pilots are nothing more than > > > "stick actuators". :) > > > > Oh - that hurts. Being a pilot and a mechanic - I see a different view > > since Iam on both sides of the field. Pilots hate mechanics and > > mechanics hate pilots. Both of them can help anyone out with a > > simulator. Mechanics know how the airplanes work and the pilot how to > > fly them. Both have experence that is worth its weight in gold. > > >No offense meant Ken. Note the ":)". *grin* The comment holds more to >air force types anyway, where there's been a friendly rivalry for decades >between those that fly them and those that "own" them. :) > >g. > >-- >"I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" >http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. It was a little different for me at Ohakea; Since the combat force has been scrapped, the pilots and groundies that are left are the real enthusiasts, they all just love the A-4. You seee them get all misty eyed when they discuss what is about to happen to their (collectively) babies. Either Brazil or the US are going to buy the whole damn lot for a mere NZD$35 million (thats about US49.95 with a side order of fries) including spares, support and tooling. Very sad! Sean From simpits-tech@simpits.org Thu Mar 7 01:42:33 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Rod Dale) Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 17:42:33 -0800 Subject: [simpits-tech] I'm so happy! In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020305185502.025e8cb0@pop3.paradise.net.nz> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020306174137.00a15480@mail.castle.net.au> At 08:24 AM 3/5/02 -0800, you wrote: > > >Justin, you might want to keep a little folder of photos with you. Next > > >time, you can whip out your wallet and show 'em your "baby". Chances are > > >pretty good they'll be more likely to play ball. :) > > > > > >g. > > > > > >-- > > >"I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" > > >http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > > > > I can't agree more! I got the "civilians tour" until I showed them the > > photos, then I got the whole "You could probably use this?" routine :) > > >Yep! Another thing, avoid the pilots. They can't do a thing for >you. Talk to the guys in _power_. The maintenance crew. :) Nothing >loosens up a crew dog like a fellow fan. Pilots are nothing more than >"stick actuators". :) > >g. Yeah - and they speak a completely different language :-) Rod > -- >"I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" >http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > > >_______________________________________________ >Simpits-tech mailing list >Simpits-tech@simpits.org >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above >page. Thanks! From simpits-tech@simpits.org Wed Mar 6 10:05:52 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Wombat) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 21:05:52 +1100 Subject: [simpits-tech] I'm so happy! Message-ID: <200203062105.AA15663182@bosnjak.com> Rod, Thanks for info. Hope to get inside the cockpit next week. If I do, will take some pic. Regards, Joe ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Rod Dale Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 20:59:48 -0800 >Hi Wombat, >That Mirage cockpit came from an aircraft that had extensive fire damage >> > From simpits-tech@simpits.org Wed Mar 6 10:39:03 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Wombat) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 21:39:03 +1100 Subject: [simpits-tech] DZUS rail and fasteners Message-ID: <200203062139.AA19595410@bosnjak.com> Hi Simmers, Recently purchased a f-16 backplate to see how easily they can be re-produced. The backplate has four (1/4 turn) fasteners. All reference to these fasteners called them "Zues" until I came accross a good website ( http://www.dzus.co.uk/main.htm ) in the UK. The website has dimensions and diagrams detailing the various components. You will find a link of to the right called "Panel line". I hope it's useful but expect the fastners to be very expensive. Regards, Joe [wombat] Bosnjak email: joe@bosnjak.com website: http://www.f-16cockpit.com From simpits-tech@simpits.org Wed Mar 6 20:04:19 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Newsletter2BS) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 21:04:19 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] The endless story of MFD'S In-Reply-To: <200203062139.AA19595410@bosnjak.com> Message-ID: Hallo Simmers, I've read the discussion about MFD's just a few weeks ago and now I am not sure, whether anyone in our group had a "reality-like" solution. I've remembered that some of us are using "Image-Server" to display MFD's Graphics on several screens and displays, but this method doesn't consider any dynamic gameplay-data. My idea is to put some life into such installments. It's possible to get information like altitude, heading etc. so it should also be possible to get the datas be shown on MFD's - the MFD's are only displaying the dynamic scenario around the plane, they're working like clients served by the environment. I need to figure out, whether anyone has already programmed a small tool, which is able to read all the required environment-data out and send them to a 2nd computer. The only thing the "client" has to do is to use predefined bitmap-graphics and put them together with the received data of the 3D-world. After that, the treated graphic are ready to be displayed on TFT's or other types of screens. It is only a theory, so has anyone more experiences in reading out and using such datas? Thanks in advance for assistance Ben "Interceptor" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From simpits-tech@simpits.org Wed Mar 6 20:43:30 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Robert Favre) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 12:43:30 -0800 Subject: [simpits-tech] The endless story of MFD'S In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001b01c1c54f$932d91d0$e1231504@rfavrelt> If we're talking about Falcon 4, the short answer to your question is that you're still limited by the data that's available via shared memory. The answer to the second part is that there are several utilities that do provide the data to a second computer. Erwin's F4 Glass, as well as my F4 Server and clients do just that. Hope this helps. Rob -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org] On Behalf Of Newsletter2BS Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 12:04 PM To: simpits-tech@simpits.org Subject: [simpits-tech] The endless story of MFD'S Hallo Simmers, I've read the discussion about MFD's just a few weeks ago and now I am not sure, whether anyone in our group had a "reality-like" solution. I've remembered that some of us are using "Image-Server" to display MFD's Graphics on several screens and displays, but this method doesn't consider any dynamic gameplay-data. My idea is to put some life into such installments. It's possible to get information like altitude, heading etc. so it should also be possible to get the datas be shown on MFD's - the MFD's are only displaying the dynamic scenario around the plane, they're working like clients served by the environment. I need to figure out, whether anyone has already programmed a small tool, which is able to read all the required environment-data out and send them to a 2nd computer. The only thing the "client" has to do is to use predefined bitmap-graphics and put them together with the received data of the 3D-world. After that, the treated graphic are ready to be displayed on TFT's or other types of screens. It is only a theory, so has anyone more experiences in reading out and using such datas? Thanks in advance for assistance Ben "Interceptor" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech@simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From simpits-tech@simpits.org Wed Mar 6 23:58:09 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (netnurd) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 18:58:09 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Philippines Message-ID: <000801c1c56a$c65be140$fba3d943@firestorm> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1C540.DB95F020 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Business Or pleasure? Been There 3 times myself. War buffs should visit = Corregidor Island Chuck ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1C540.DB95F020 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Business Or pleasure? Been There 3 = times myself.=20 War buffs should visit Corregidor Island
Chuck
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1C540.DB95F020-- From simpits-tech@simpits.org Thu Mar 7 00:37:52 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Alberto_Catal=E1_Jim=E9nez?=) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 01:37:52 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] Press Control+Key Combination with one switch In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello I have a problem, i'm setting up one FMS Keyboard for a friend, an its based on CDU from Schiratti Team... well the problem is that i'm triying to connect One switch to F1, F2 .... Keys and another switch to Control+F1, Ctrl+F2 Keys.... can anybody send me a picture about how push multiple keypresses with one Switch i think that in Robert Prathner there was one but i cant find them, please if anyone can explain me or send me a picture i will thank him forever.... Sorry my english but in spain we are so happy than study english are very dificult... ;-) Regards Alberto.... From simpits-tech@simpits.org Thu Mar 7 01:00:03 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (P Cos) Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 01:00:03 +0000 Subject: [simpits-tech] Press Control+Key Combination with one switch Message-ID: This circuit works very well and uses simple to find components. My Father In Law came up with this when I had the same challenge. I have seen it work very well... I am not an engineer though so no questions please! PC http://www.avsim.com/hangar/flight/a320project/images/popescu.gif >From: Alberto Catalá Jiménez >Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org >To: >Subject: [simpits-tech] Press Control+Key Combination with one switch >Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 01:37:52 +0100 > > Hello I have a problem, i'm setting up one FMS Keyboard for a friend, an >its based on CDU from Schiratti Team... well the problem is that i'm >triying >to connect One switch to F1, F2 .... Keys and another switch to Control+F1, >Ctrl+F2 Keys.... can anybody send me a picture about how push multiple >keypresses with one Switch i think that in Robert Prathner there was one >but >i cant find them, please if anyone can explain me or send me a picture i >will thank him forever.... > > >Sorry my english but in spain we are so happy than study english are very >dificult... > >;-) > >Regards >Alberto.... > > >_______________________________________________ >Simpits-tech mailing list >Simpits-tech@simpits.org >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above >page. Thanks! _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From simpits-tech@simpits.org Thu Mar 7 01:22:05 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Marvin Maxson) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 19:22:05 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Subject: Helmet Qestion Message-ID: I was wondering if anyone has an idea how to make a patch cord for a military flying helmet. I know when I was in the Air Force, I used to see our pilots with patch cords that would allow them to listen to a cassette tape recorder, as well as tape radio transmissions. I have a brand new helo pilots helmet, with the electronics complete. I was wondering if anyone had any ideas. At the present time I also have a "break out" box from Andrea Communications, that has provisions for powering up external speakers along with a mic. Only catch is that it is of standard mini plug type, and of course the military helmet has the standard full size plug. I would like to try and use this on some of my sims when I use Battlecom or Roger Wilco. I know the sound quality would not be as good as a set of stereo speakers, but the authentic flavor is what I am looking to simulate. Thanks in advance for any suggestions the group may have. Feel free to contact me directly at madmax@glade.net Marvin "madmax" Maxson From simpits-tech@simpits.org Thu Mar 7 02:16:11 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Marv De Beque) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 21:16:11 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Subject: Helmet Qestion In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4B382D4E-3171-11D6-8E9D-000502DE6569@speakeasy.net> All right! Another Marvin!!! Check out: http://www.flightsuits.com/ They have a patch cord that accepts the Mil Type 38 (TP-120) plug and the other end can be cut and a plug(s) of your choice soldered on. Cost is a little steep at $48, but you wont have to mess with your helmet. Go to: http://www.flightsuits.com/helm_cords.html The part number is 8381. Marv 'Sphenoid' On Wednesday, March 6, 2002, at 08:22 PM, Marvin Maxson wrote: > I was wondering if anyone has an idea how to make a patch cord for a > military flying helmet. I know when I was in the Air Force, I used to > see > our pilots with patch cords that would allow them to listen to a > cassette > tape recorder, as well as tape radio transmissions. > > I have a brand new helo pilots helmet, with the electronics complete. I > was > wondering if anyone had any ideas. At the present time I also have a > "break > out" box from Andrea Communications, that has provisions for powering up > external speakers along with a mic. Only catch is that it is of standard > mini plug type, and of course the military helmet has the standard full > size > plug. I would like to try and use this on some of my sims when I use > Battlecom or Roger Wilco. I know the sound quality would not be as good > as a > set of stereo speakers, but the authentic flavor is what I am looking to > simulate. > > Thanks in advance for any suggestions the group may have. Feel free to > contact me directly at madmax@glade.net > > Marvin "madmax" Maxson > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > From simpits-tech@simpits.org Thu Mar 7 11:50:30 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Craig Wylie) Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 19:50:30 +0800 Subject: [simpits-tech] Philippines References: <000801c1c56a$c65be140$fba3d943@firestorm> Message-ID: <002101c1c5ce$48947bf0$3118c3d2@user5d5ssa7obr> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_bLUy3EJ9CsHzqiAKUcbZww) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Chuck, We went to see the wife's family and for the Christening of our daughter. So you could say it was a bit of both :-) Had Corregidor Island on my list for trips while in Manila but our daughter had a high fever for nearly a week so it stopped any trips like that. Planned for the next trip tho. Manila now , in my opinion , is No1 for Traffic jams!!!!!!!! Unbelievable to say the least. Cheers Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: netnurd To: simpits-tech@simpits.org Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 7:58 AM Subject: [simpits-tech] Philippines Business Or pleasure? Been There 3 times myself. War buffs should visit Corregidor Island Chuck --Boundary_(ID_bLUy3EJ9CsHzqiAKUcbZww) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Chuck,
We went to see the wife's family and for the Christening of our daughter.
So you could say it was a bit of both :-)
Had Corregidor Island on my list for trips while in Manila but our daughter had a high fever for nearly a week so it stopped any trips like that. Planned for the next trip tho.
Manila now , in my opinion , is No1 for Traffic jams!!!!!!!!  Unbelievable to say the least.
Cheers
Craig
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Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 7:58 AM
Subject: [simpits-tech] Philippines

Business Or pleasure? Been There 3 times myself. War buffs should visit Corregidor Island
Chuck
--Boundary_(ID_bLUy3EJ9CsHzqiAKUcbZww)-- From simpits-tech@simpits.org Fri Mar 8 04:57:36 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (netnurd) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 23:57:36 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Press Control+Key Combination with one switch Message-ID: <000801c1c65d$c6229d60$74a3d943@firestorm> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1C633.DB675AA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Using Control,Shift,Alt keys- Functions using combinations of these = keys do not require to be closed in any particular order. If the = function is Ctrl,Shift,E the control shift could be implemented with a = doulble pole push button switch, then the implementation of the E key. = Something like a diode matrix could be used to select the required = combination of Ctrl,Alt, Shift keys. This would reduce complexity for = wiring to keyboards. Chuck ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1C633.DB675AA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 Using Control,Shift,Alt keys- = Functions using=20 combinations of these keys do not require to be closed in any particular = order.=20 If the function is Ctrl,Shift,E the control shift could be implemented = with a=20 doulble pole push button switch, then the implementation of the E key. = Something=20 like a diode matrix could be used to select the required combination of=20 Ctrl,Alt, Shift keys. This would reduce complexity for = wiring
to keyboards.
Chuck
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1C633.DB675AA0-- From simpits-tech@simpits.org Fri Mar 8 08:17:28 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Sean Galbraith) Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 21:17:28 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] Somebody will want these... Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020308211706.02455290@pop3.paradise.net.nz> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1711826337 F-16 Knobs.... S. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Fri Mar 8 11:07:55 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Marv De Beque) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 06:07:55 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Somebody will want these... In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020308211706.02455290@pop3.paradise.net.nz> Message-ID: Hmm, I can only identify one or two that might be used on the F-16, but the set screw (there is only one per knob and there should be two) is in the wrong place. Still, could be a good buy if the price doesn't escalate. Marv On Friday, March 8, 2002, at 03:17 AM, Sean Galbraith wrote: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1711826337 > > F-16 Knobs.... > > S. > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > From simpits-tech@simpits.org Fri Mar 8 16:25:21 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 08:25:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Somebody will want these... In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020308211706.02455290@pop3.paradise.net.nz> Message-ID: One of the simpit members already bid on it. :) g. On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Sean Galbraith wrote: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1711826337 > > F-16 Knobs.... > > S. > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > > -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Fri Mar 8 20:57:38 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Davide) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 21:57:38 +0100 Subject: R: [simpits-tech] Somebody will want these... References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020308211706.02455290@pop3.paradise.net.nz> Message-ID: I just bid on them ! Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Sean Galbraith To: Simpits List Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 9:17 AM Subject: [simpits-tech] Somebody will want these... > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1711826337 > > F-16 Knobs.... > > S. > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > From simpits-tech@simpits.org Fri Mar 8 20:58:20 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Davide) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 21:58:20 +0100 Subject: R: [simpits-tech] Somebody will want these... References: Message-ID: Thanks Gene ! Davide ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene Buckle To: Simpits List Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 5:25 PM Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Somebody will want these... > One of the simpit members already bid on it. :) > g. > > On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Sean > Galbraith wrote: > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1711826337 > > > > F-16 Knobs.... > > > > S. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Simpits-tech mailing list > > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > > > > > > -- > "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > From simpits-tech@simpits.org Fri Mar 8 22:33:11 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Allen Buffington) Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 15:33:11 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] Backlighting questions References: <200203062139.AA19595410@bosnjak.com> Message-ID: <3C893C26.1B252B31@sofast.net> Wombat, In reference to your letter concerning the "ghosting" effect during backlighting, could you elaborate more on this? I am not sure what could be causing this. Is it because the engraving depth is too deep? I am not able to replicate the problem. Or, maybe I am not looking for the right thing. Would having shallower engraving help? Does the ghost image appear to reflect off the top surface of the panel? Sorry, too many questions. Looking forward to reading your panel review. ~~Allen "Loose not thy airspeed, lest the ground rise up and smite thee" From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sat Mar 9 00:34:46 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Allen Buffington) Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 17:34:46 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] Backlighting questions References: <200203062139.AA19595410@bosnjak.com> <3C893C26.1B252B31@sofast.net> Message-ID: <3C8958A6.9782952A@sofast.net> Ooops. That should have been sent as a private email. ~~Allen "Loose not thy airspeed, lest the ground rise up and smite thee" From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sat Mar 9 12:33:43 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Wombat) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 23:33:43 +1100 Subject: [simpits-tech] Backlighting questions Message-ID: <200203092333.AA172621900@bosnjak.com> Allen, Disregard my earlier comments. They were meant to be information only. The ghosting effect was caused by my LED matrix mounted behind the perspex backlate. A bit to close to the panel. I have modified this and it now looks great. Regards, Joe ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Allen Buffington Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 15:33:11 -0700 > >Wombat, > >In reference to your letter concerning the "ghosting" effect during backlighting, could >you elaborate more on this? I am not sure what could be causing this. Is it because the >engraving depth is too deep? I am not able to replicate the problem. Or, maybe I am not >looking for the right thing. Would having shallower engraving help? Does the ghost image >appear to reflect off the top surface of the panel? > >Sorry, too many questions. > >Looking forward to reading your panel review. > >~~Allen >"Loose not thy airspeed, lest the ground rise up and smite thee" > > >_______________________________________________ >Simpits-tech mailing list >Simpits-tech@simpits.org >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sat Mar 9 12:49:25 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Jean-Yves Surfin') Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 13:49:25 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] Backlighting questions References: <200203092333.AA172621900@bosnjak.com> Message-ID: <000f01c1c768$eba26820$6bf6fea9@surfinjeannot> Hello Wombat about backlighting : How like is your LED matrix on the landing panel (or another one..) to let me see how many led you are using and where your put leds on it. ? What is technical datas of your Leds, ('cause mine are little bit poor in lighting efficient) What is the best distance between panel and led matrix ? thanks in advance Bye J-Yves " Surfin' " ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wombat" To: Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2002 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Backlighting questions > Allen, > > Disregard my earlier comments. They were meant to be information > only. > > The ghosting effect was caused by my LED matrix mounted behind the > perspex backlate. A bit to close to the panel. I have modified > this and it now looks great. > > Regards, > > Joe > > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: Allen Buffington > Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org > Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 15:33:11 -0700 > > > > >Wombat, > > > >In reference to your letter concerning the "ghosting" effect > during backlighting, could > >you elaborate more on this? I am not sure what could be causing > this. Is it because the > >engraving depth is too deep? I am not able to replicate the > problem. Or, maybe I am not > >looking for the right thing. Would having shallower engraving > help? Does the ghost image > >appear to reflect off the top surface of the panel? > > > >Sorry, too many questions. > > > >Looking forward to reading your panel review. > > > >~~Allen > >"Loose not thy airspeed, lest the ground rise up and smite thee" > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Simpits-tech mailing list > >Simpits-tech@simpits.org > >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the > above page. Thanks! > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sat Mar 9 14:43:21 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Ido Dekkers) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 16:43:21 +0200 Subject: [simpits-tech] Making PCB's Message-ID: Does any of you know the amount of acid grains to water in order to make PCB's, and also the amount of time the PCB needs to be in the acid ? Thanks Ido From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sat Mar 9 18:53:15 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Gene Buckle) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 10:53:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] test Message-ID: please ignore -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sat Mar 9 18:56:20 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Gene Buckle) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 10:56:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] test // Message-ID: ignore -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sat Mar 9 19:02:59 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Gene Buckle) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 11:02:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] test ]I[ Message-ID: ignore -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sat Mar 9 19:15:05 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Gene Buckle) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 11:15:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] test IV Message-ID: ignore -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sat Mar 9 19:28:23 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Gene Buckle) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 11:28:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] test V Message-ID: ignore -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sun Mar 10 03:27:56 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Gene Buckle) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 19:27:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] test VII Message-ID: ignore -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sun Mar 10 03:34:10 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Gene Buckle) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 19:34:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] test VII Message-ID: ignore. -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. 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Thanks again Ido Dekkers "Ben Jones" m.au> cc: Sent by: Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] Making PCB's simpits-tech-admin@ simpits.org 03/10/2002 11:38 AM Please respond to simpits-tech Off the top of my head i cant tell you , but somewhere at home i have a pcb etching kit with all the information on the chemicles as to what dilution is needed for the right mix. also there is a couple of different types of chem's and types of etichable pcb's on the market ( at least in australia )so you will need to let me what chem's you are using so i dont give you the wrong info on dilution scales, a quick tip if you are going to etch pcb's use a air-rator in the tank , this helps speed up the process , not because of the air your pumping in, its actually the circulation of fresh chem's in contact with the copperwhich speed up the process. from what i have found there is no set time for a etch to take it rely's on the size of the board you are creating , trial and error is the only suggestion i have for your time question . regards ben -----Original Message----- From: Ido Dekkers [mailto:idekkers@clicksoftware.com] Subject: [simpits-tech] Making PCB's Does any of you know the amount of acid grains to water in order to make PCB's, and also the amount of time the PCB needs to be in the acid ? 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[mailto:idekkers@clicksoftware.com] Sent: 10. marts 2002 11:22 To: simpits-tech@simpits.org Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] Making PCB's Hi Ben I'm trying to etch a 100*70mm board, single sided with Ferric Chloride. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sun Mar 10 19:39:34 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Scott A. Evans) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 11:39:34 -0800 Subject: [simpits-tech] For Gene Message-ID: <004001c1c86b$56741ab0$0201a8c0@Rocket> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C1C828.4850DAB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Gene, The new simpits.org list is great! Much better than the Yahoo sh*t. I have noticed that some guys are trying to send attachments to messages but I'm unable to view them in my browser. Am I doing something wrong or what? Scott ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C1C828.4850DAB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hey Gene,

 

The new simpits.org list is great! Much better than = the Yahoo sh*t. I have noticed that some guys = are trying to send attachments to messages but I’m unable to view them in my browser. Am I doing something wrong or what? =

 

Scott

------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C1C828.4850DAB0-- From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sun Mar 10 19:55:16 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Scott A. Evans) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 11:55:16 -0800 Subject: [simpits-tech] Interesting Web link Message-ID: <004501c1c86d$8056d7d0$0201a8c0@Rocket> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01C1C82A.723397D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For those looking for generic throttle assemblies..stumbled upon this whilst surfing. Not bad prices either. http://www.airplanestuff.com/products.html Scott ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01C1C82A.723397D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

For those looking for generic throttle = assemblies….stumbled upon this whilst surfing. Not bad prices = either.

 

http://www.airplanest= uff.com/products.html

 

Scott

------=_NextPart_000_0046_01C1C82A.723397D0-- From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sun Mar 10 22:38:12 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Gene Buckle) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 14:38:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] For Gene In-Reply-To: <004001c1c86b$56741ab0$0201a8c0@Rocket> Message-ID: Attachments won't be part of the digest if you're reading it that way. Which messages showed "Attachments"? g. On Sun, 10 Mar 2002, Scott A. Evans wrote: > Hey Gene, > > The new simpits.org list is great! Much better than the Yahoo sh*t. I > have noticed that some guys are trying to send attachments to messages > but I'm unable to view them in my browser. Am I doing something wrong or > what? > > Scott > -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sun Mar 10 22:14:10 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (CLYDE HARGIS) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 17:14:10 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Re: Simpits-tech digest, Vol 1 #90 - 7 msgs Message-ID: Im trying to have vinyl decals made for the outside of my Aimsworth pit. Does anyone have a template or know the size/font? >>> simpits-tech-request@simpits.org 03/10/02 14:59 PM >>> Send Simpits-tech mailing list submissions to simpits-tech@simpits.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to simpits-tech-request@simpits.org You can reach the person managing the list at simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Simpits-tech digest..." Today's Topics: 1. test VII (Gene Buckle) 2. test VII (Gene Buckle) 3. RE: Making PCB's (Ben Jones) 4. RE: Making PCB's (Ido Dekkers) 5. RE: Making PCB's (Stig Joergensen) 6. For Gene (Scott A. Evans) 7. Interesting Web link (Scott A. Evans) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 19:27:56 -0800 (PST) From: Gene Buckle To: simpits-tech@simpits.org Subject: [simpits-tech] test VII Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org ignore -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 19:34:10 -0800 (PST) From: Gene Buckle To: simpits-tech@simpits.org Subject: [simpits-tech] test VII Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org ignore. -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. --__--__-- Message: 3 Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] Making PCB's Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 17:38:35 +0800 From: "Ben Jones" To: Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1C817.597B4D26 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 T2ZmIHRoZSB0b3Agb2YgbXkgaGVhZCBpIGNhbnQgdGVsbCB5b3UgLCAgYnV0IHNvbWV3aGVyZSBh 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board, single sided with Ferric Chloride. Thanks again Ido Dekkers "Ben Jones" m.au> cc: Sent by: Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] Making PCB's simpits-tech-admin@ simpits.org 03/10/2002 11:38 AM Please respond to simpits-tech Off the top of my head i cant tell you , but somewhere at home i have a pcb etching kit with all the information on the chemicles as to what dilution is needed for the right mix. also there is a couple of different types of chem's and types of etichable pcb's on the market ( at least in australia )so you will need to let me what chem's you are using so i dont give you the wrong info on dilution scales, a quick tip if you are going to etch pcb's use a air-rator in the tank , this helps speed up the process , not because of the air your pumping in, its actually the circulation of fresh chem's in contact with the copperwhich speed up the process. from what i have found there is no set time for a etch to take it rely's on the size of the board you are creating , trial and error is the only suggestion i have for your time question . regards ben -----Original Message----- From: Ido Dekkers [mailto:idekkers@clicksoftware.com] Subject: [simpits-tech] Making PCB's Does any of you know the amount of acid grains to water in order to make PCB's, and also the amount of time the PCB needs to be in the acid ? 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Making PCB's Hi Ben I'm trying to etch a 100*70mm board, single sided with Ferric Chloride. --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "Scott A. Evans" To: Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 11:39:34 -0800 Subject: [simpits-tech] For Gene Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C1C828.4850DAB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Gene, The new simpits.org list is great! Much better than the Yahoo sh*t. I have noticed that some guys are trying to send attachments to messages but I'm unable to view them in my browser. Am I doing something wrong or what? Scott ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C1C828.4850DAB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hey Gene,

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The new simpits.org list is great! Much better than = the Yahoo sh*t. I have noticed that some guys = are trying to send attachments to messages but I'm unable to view them in my browser. Am I doing something wrong or what? =

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------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C1C828.4850DAB0-- --__--__-- Message: 7 From: "Scott A. Evans" To: Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 11:55:16 -0800 Subject: [simpits-tech] Interesting Web link Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01C1C82A.723397D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For those looking for generic throttle assemblies..stumbled upon this whilst surfing. Not bad prices either. http://www.airplanestuff.com/products.html Scott ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01C1C82A.723397D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

For those looking for generic throttle = assemblies*.stumbled upon this whilst surfing. Not bad prices = either.

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http://www.airplanest= uff.com/products.html

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Scott

------=_NextPart_000_0046_01C1C82A.723397D0-- --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech@simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech End of Simpits-tech Digest From simpits-tech@simpits.org Mon Mar 11 17:16:30 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (eric wh) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 09:16:30 -0800 Subject: [simpits-tech] great site for cockpit builders Message-ID:
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From simpits-tech@simpits.org Mon Mar 11 19:32:30 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Lee, David) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 14:32:30 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Throttle quadrant needed Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1C933.7BED9F50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Recently I found a web site that had inexpensive modular components for building a throttle quadrant. You could even buy a trim wheel and flaps control with detents. At first I thought the $495 or so was too pricey but now that I've decided to get it, naturally I can't find the site anymore. Does this site ring a bell with anyone? Thanks! David Lee ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1C933.7BED9F50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Recently I found a web site that had inexpensive modular components for building a throttle quadrant. You could even buy a trim wheel and flaps control with detents. At first I thought the $495 or so was too pricey but now that I've decided to get it, naturally I can't find the site anymore. Does this site ring a bell with anyone? Thanks!
David Lee

 

 
------_=_NextPart_001_01C1C933.7BED9F50-- From simpits-tech@simpits.org Mon Mar 11 19:41:09 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Ghost) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 13:41:09 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Throttle quadrant needed References: Message-ID: <3C8D0855.3AD2@swbell.net> Lee, David wrote: > > Recently I found a web site that had inexpensive modular components > for building a throttle quadrant. You could even buy a trim wheel and > flaps control with detents. At first I thought the $495 or so was too > pricey but now that I've decided to get it, naturally I can't find the > site anymore. Does this site ring a bell with anyone? Thanks! Was this it: http://www.airplanestuff.com/products.html -- Steve lt1_z28@swbell.net http://www.mysticz28.org/ Aluminum, steel, carbon fiber, titanium, and two cast iron balls. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Mon Mar 11 20:32:54 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Steve Smith) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 14:32:54 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] great site for cockpit builders Message-ID: Eric, Have you seen the price on those suckers?? Steve >
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> _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > > From simpits-tech@simpits.org Mon Mar 11 20:39:29 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Eric Nicolaides) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 14:39:29 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] great site for cockpit builders In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000701c1c93c$d841dba0$0584fa0c@attbi.com> Hi guys, I know it's been a long time since I've written, but I've been following all the threads despite my silence. Question--what do you guys think about the HDTV approach for a visual system-- cost aside, does it provide the authenticity that the collimated displays do? Just wondering. Best, Eric N -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org]On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 2:33 PM To: simpits-tech@simpits.org Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] great site for cockpit builders Eric, Have you seen the price on those suckers?? Steve >
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Hi Guys,

 

Found the manufacturer of the CRJ-700 control wheels. = It’s a company in CA called Mason Electric. They manufacturer a bunch of = stick grips and some control wheels for selected airframes. Well, I gave them a call = today and price for a single CRJ-700 control wheel (minus switches) was = $6000.00. Once the shock wore off, I thanked the guy and promptly hung up the phone. Oh = well….

 

Scott

------=_NextPart_000_004B_01C1C8FD.7A494DB0-- From simpits-tech@simpits.org Mon Mar 11 22:32:21 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Matt Ford) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 14:32:21 -0800 Subject: [simpits-tech] great site for cockpit builders In-Reply-To: <000701c1c93c$d841dba0$0584fa0c@attbi.com> Message-ID: Eric- Although they are probably a good alternative, understand that a collimating system actually uses optics to bend the image into infinity. Although your brain can be "fooled" into thinking it is in the 3d world with a flat display, the flat display system still does not come close to a true optically collimated image. Sincerely, Matt Ford Woodland Hills, CA www.737sim.com -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org]On Behalf Of Eric Nicolaides Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 12:39 PM To: simpits-tech@simpits.org Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] great site for cockpit builders Hi guys, I know it's been a long time since I've written, but I've been following all the threads despite my silence. Question--what do you guys think about the HDTV approach for a visual system-- cost aside, does it provide the authenticity that the collimated displays do? Just wondering. Best, Eric N -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org]On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 2:33 PM To: simpits-tech@simpits.org Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] great site for cockpit builders Eric, Have you seen the price on those suckers?? Steve >
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i don't know if anybody else used PFC's "serial driver" but....

keeping a looooong story short, i found it to be the most destructive, piece of crap software ever written by man. unless you want to dedicate a computer to flight sim ONLY, and do absolutely nothing else, you _might_ be able to get along with it.

the list of defects i discovered made me shake my head in disbelief. un-installing the product only caused all future invocations to FS2K to crash (because they don't undo their damage to the FS2K .cfg file).

i wrote a descriptive message to the president of PFC warning them of the quality of their software (which seriously compromises their outstanding hardware). they responded by mailing me a plastic bag with a bunch of screws in it.

honest to God.

...just a warning before you consider spending $2,000.00 on their radio stack or any other product requiring the PFC serial driver.

 - adm -


At 09:16 AM 3/11/02 -0800, you wrote:
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--=====================_879010==_.ALT-- From simpits-tech@simpits.org Mon Mar 11 23:08:38 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Scott A. Evans) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 15:08:38 -0800 Subject: [simpits-tech] Re: Great Site for Cockpit Builders Message-ID: <004f01c1c951$adffc900$0201a8c0@Rocket> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C1C90E.9FDC8900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Adam, Do you think the message was "Get Screwed"? Scott >hi, >i don't know if anybody else used PFC's "serial driver" but.... >keeping a looooong story short, i found it to be the most destructive, >piece of crap software ever written by man. unless you want to dedicate a >computer to flight sim ONLY, and do absolutely nothing else, you _might_ be >able to get along with it. >the list of defects i discovered made me shake my head in disbelief. >un-installing the product only caused all future invocations to FS2K to >crash (because they don't undo their damage to the FS2K .cfg file). >i wrote a descriptive message to the president of PFC warning them of the >quality of their software (which seriously compromises their outstanding >hardware). they responded by mailing me a plastic bag with a bunch of >screws in it. >honest to God. >...just a warning before you consider spending $2,000.00 on their radio >stack or any other product requiring the PFC serial driver. > - adm - ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C1C90E.9FDC8900 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 
Adam,
Do you think the =
message was “Get =
Screwed”?
 
Scott
 
>hi,
 
>i don't know if anybody else used PFC's "serial driver" =
but....
 
>keeping a looooong story short, i found it to be the most destructive, =

>piece of crap software ever written by =
man. unless you want to dedicate a =

>computer to flight sim ONLY, and do absolutely nothing else, you =
_might_ be 
>able to get along with =
it.
 
>the =
list of defects i discovered made me shake my head in disbelief. =

>un-installing the product only caused all =
future invocations to FS2K to 
>crash (because they don't undo their =
damage to the FS2K .cfg =
file).
 
>i wrote a descriptive message to the president of =
PFC warning them of the 
>quality of their software (which =
seriously compromises their outstanding =

>hardware). they responded by mailing me a plastic bag with a =
bunch of 
>screws in =
it.
 
>honest to =
God.
 
>...just a warning before you consider =
spending $2,000.00 on their radio =

>stack or any other product requiring the =
PFC serial driver.
 
>  =
- adm -

 

------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C1C90E.9FDC8900-- From simpits-tech@simpits.org Mon Mar 11 23:36:57 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Alan D. Mazurka) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 18:36:57 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Re: Great Site for Cockpit Builders In-Reply-To: <004f01c1c951$adffc900$0201a8c0@Rocket> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020311183618.00a1cc40@mail.verizon.net> --=====================_3105610==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hi, Adam boy, i hope not. they really put a lot of screws into that bag.... - adm - At 03:08 PM 3/11/02 -0800, you wrote: >Adam, >Do you think the message was "Get Screwed"? > >Scott > ---------- Alan D. Mazurka Webspace Design & Implementation adm.design@verizon.net --=====================_3105610==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Hi,  Adam

boy, i hope not. they really put a lot of screws into that bag....

 - adm -

At 03:08 PM 3/11/02 -0800, you wrote:

Adam,

Do you think the message
was “Get
Screwed”?

 

Scott

 


Alan D. Mazurka                    Webspace Design & Implementation
adm.design@verizon.net    
--=====================_3105610==_.ALT-- From simpits-tech@simpits.org Tue Mar 12 14:34:55 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Ken Trager) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 09:34:55 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] great site for cockpit builders References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020311174906.00a1a4e0@mail.verizon.net> Message-ID: <3C8E120F.4ACA295F@clt.bellsouth.net> Alan Iam using the serial driver with FSUIPC in the throttle box and have had no problem to date. > They responded by mailing me a plastic bag with a bunch of screws in > it. That is a new one I have not see before - I have used there tech support after I plugged the power into the wrong port and they mailed everything out fast. Sorry to hear about this. Ken Trager From simpits-tech@simpits.org Tue Mar 12 14:51:06 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Wiebe, Alex) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 08:51:06 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Mounting of AI Message-ID: <49161BD15CC4D311B78400C04F109D3A01004D4C@wpgexchange.online-can.com> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1C9D5.57162290 Content-Type: text/plain Gene (and anyone else interested), I managed to borrow a camera last night and I've updated my site to include a shot of how I mounted the guts of the AI back into its case. I also added some shots of my overall progress to date. Not much, but I'm clinging to the 'slow and steady' motto. http://www.geocities.com/ehud42/pics Enjoy! ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1C9D5.57162290 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mounting of AI

Gene (and anyone else interested), I managed to = borrow a camera last night and I've updated my site to include a shot = of how I mounted the guts of the AI back into its case. I also added = some shots of my overall progress to date. Not much, but I'm clinging = to the 'slow and steady' motto.

http://www.geocities.com/ehud42/pics

Enjoy!

------_=_NextPart_001_01C1C9D5.57162290-- From simpits-tech@simpits.org Tue Mar 12 15:21:20 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Alan D. Mazurka) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 10:21:20 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] great site for cockpit builders In-Reply-To: <3C8E120F.4ACA295F@clt.bellsouth.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020311174906.00a1a4e0@mail.verizon.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020312100056.00a23ec0@mail.verizon.net> --=====================_7588546==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed hi, ken. i'm writing to you directly instead of slamming PFC on the big list. their support is good, their hardware is great. their documentation, order fullfillment, and software have much to be desired. it's puzzling to spend $1,000.00 on their jetliner yoke, and not even get a driver. they point you to their competition (CH products in this case), and suggest you download _their_ driver. smell a problem with their software development? of course, you discover this ONLY after severe head-scratching, since they don't document any of this. you have to visit their site, then the FAQs to figure things out. if you just install the yoke, it will not work. period. there is now way it could as shipped. no apologies from PFC. their $2,000.00 radio stack won't work with pro pilot, which totally negates the function of the radios. this works just fine with goflight boxes. they shipped the wrong cables with the unit, and (like your experience) make it too easy to damage their equipment by using very similar connectors. all these problems are easily fixed if they just spent a minute thinking about design. they apologize, then tell you that the microsoft stick just won't work with their equipment. 'tis strange, because the stick works just fine UNTIL you install their driver. when you have a working system (microsoft FS, MS stick), install a driver, then see everything break, you HAVE to suspect the driver. this is considered by 'normal' companies as a "show stopper", but just is not so in their case. they just apologize for it, and tell you not to do it. they gave me the email address of the serial driver developer. he was hired as a contractor and now works for another company. again, i feel this reveals their feelings that software is not as important as the hardware they are developing. the bag 'o screws..... i bet it was intended to be shipped to someone else. it just points out another flaw in their system. they appear to be full-throttle ahead of product development at the cost of total quality control. i will be building a multi-throttle system using the USB connection, and keep the serial port for my hagstrom card. their serial driver was not a "good citizen" (like those which share the printer port), and monopolized the serial port whether or not i was running flightsim. take care, - adm - At 09:34 AM 3/12/02 -0500, you wrote: >Alan > >Iam using the serial driver with FSUIPC in the throttle box and have had >no problem to date. > > > > They responded by mailing me a plastic bag with a bunch of screws in > > it. > >That is a new one I have not see before - I have used there tech support >after I plugged the power into >the wrong port and they mailed everything out fast. > >Sorry to hear about this. > >Ken Trager > > >_______________________________________________ >Simpits-tech mailing list >Simpits-tech@simpits.org >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above >page. Thanks! ---------- Alan D. Mazurka Webspace Design & Implementation adm.design@verizon.net --=====================_7588546==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" hi, ken.

i'm writing to you directly instead of slamming PFC on the big list.

their support is good, their hardware is great. their documentation, order fullfillment, and software have much to be desired.

it's puzzling to spend $1,000.00 on their jetliner yoke, and not even get a driver. they point you to their competition (CH products in this case), and suggest you download _their_ driver. smell a problem with their software development?

of course, you discover this ONLY after severe head-scratching, since they don't document any of this. you have to visit their site, then the FAQs to figure things out. if you just install the yoke, it will not work. period. there is now way it could as shipped. no apologies from PFC.

their $2,000.00 radio stack won't work with pro pilot, which totally negates the function of the radios. this works just fine with goflight boxes. they shipped the wrong cables with the unit, and (like your experience) make it too easy to damage their equipment by using very similar connectors. all these problems are easily fixed if they just spent a minute thinking about design.

they apologize, then tell you that the microsoft stick just won't work with their equipment. 'tis strange, because the stick works just fine UNTIL you install their driver.

when you have a working system (microsoft FS, MS stick), install a driver, then see everything break, you HAVE to suspect the driver. this is considered by 'normal' companies as a "show stopper", but just is not so in their case. they just apologize for it, and tell you not to do it.

they gave me the email address of the serial driver developer. he was hired as a contractor and now works for another company. again, i feel this reveals their feelings that software is not as important as the hardware they are developing.

the bag 'o screws..... i bet it was intended to be shipped to someone else. it just points out another flaw in their system. they appear to be full-throttle ahead of product development at the cost of total quality control.

i will be building a multi-throttle system using the USB connection, and keep the serial port for my hagstrom card. their serial driver was not a "good citizen" (like those which share the printer port), and monopolized the serial port whether or not i was running flightsim.

take care,

 - adm -


At 09:34 AM 3/12/02 -0500, you wrote:
Alan

Iam using the serial driver with FSUIPC in the throttle box and have had
no problem to date.


> They responded by mailing me a plastic bag with a bunch of screws in
> it.

That is a new one I have not see before - I have used there tech support
after I plugged the power into
the wrong port and they mailed everything out fast.

Sorry to hear about this.

Ken Trager


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--=====================_7588546==_.ALT-- From simpits-tech@simpits.org Tue Mar 12 16:41:27 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 08:41:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Mounting of AI In-Reply-To: <49161BD15CC4D311B78400C04F109D3A01004D4C@wpgexchange.online-can.com> Message-ID: > Gene (and anyone else interested), I managed to borrow a camera last night > and I've updated my site to include a shot of how I mounted the guts of the > AI back into its case. I also added some shots of my overall progress to > date. Not much, but I'm clinging to the 'slow and steady' motto. > That's pretty cool Alex. Seeing the "World" on that one serve reminds me that I've got a handfull of those myself. They went with a World Engines 7ch rig I had... g. -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Tue Mar 12 15:33:32 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Steve Smith) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 09:33:32 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] great site for cockpit builders Message-ID: Sorry but I think you made it to the big list anyway....... Steve > > hi, ken. > > i'm writing to you directly instead of slamming PFC on the big list. > > their support is good, their hardware is great. their documentation, order > fullfillment, and software have much to be desired. > > it's puzzling to spend $1,000.00 on their jetliner yoke, and not even get a > driver. they point you to their competition (CH products in this case), and > suggest you download _their_ driver. smell a problem with their software > development? > > of course, you discover this ONLY after severe head-scratching, since they > don't document any of this. you have to visit their site, then the FAQs to > figure things out. if you just install the yoke, it will not work. period. > there is now way it could as shipped. no apologies from PFC. > > their $2,000.00 radio stack won't work with pro pilot, which totally > negates the function of the radios. this works just fine with goflight > boxes. they shipped the wrong cables with the unit, and (like your > experience) make it too easy to damage their equipment by using very > similar connectors. all these problems are easily fixed if they just spent > a minute thinking about design. > > they apologize, then tell you that the microsoft stick just won't work with > their equipment. 'tis strange, because the stick works just fine UNTIL you > install their driver. > > when you have a working system (microsoft FS, MS stick), install a driver, > then see everything break, you HAVE to suspect the driver. this is > considered by 'normal' companies as a "show stopper", but just is not so in > their case. they just apologize for it, and tell you not to do it. > > they gave me the email address of the serial driver developer. he was hired > as a contractor and now works for another company. again, i feel this > reveals their feelings that software is not as important as the hardware > they are developing. > > the bag 'o screws..... i bet it was intended to be shipped to someone else. > it just points out another flaw in their system. they appear to be > full-throttle ahead of product development at the cost of total quality > control. > > i will be building a multi-throttle system using the USB connection, and > keep the serial port for my hagstrom card. their serial driver was not a > "good citizen" (like those which share the printer port), and monopolized > the serial port whether or not i was running flightsim. > > take care, > > - adm - > > > At 09:34 AM 3/12/02 -0500, you wrote: > >Alan > > > >Iam using the serial driver with FSUIPC in the throttle box and have had > >no problem to date. > > > > > > > They responded by mailing me a plastic bag with a bunch of screws in > > > it. > > > >That is a new one I have not see before - I have used there tech support > >after I plugged the power into > >the wrong port and they mailed everything out fast. > > > >Sorry to hear about this. > > > >Ken Trager > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Simpits-tech mailing list > >Simpits-tech@simpits.org > >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > >page. Thanks! > > > ---------- > > Alan D. Mazurka Webspace Design & Implementation > adm.design@verizon.net > > From simpits-tech@simpits.org Tue Mar 12 16:10:55 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Ken Trager) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 11:10:55 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Mounting of AI References: <49161BD15CC4D311B78400C04F109D3A01004D4C@wpgexchange.online-can.com> Message-ID: <3C8E288F.F6A280E9@clt.bellsouth.net> Alex, How is the update speed for your servo's? Iam using the Mini SSC and have no problem for the volts and AMP's gauges but I tried to use it for N1 and it jumped too much. For the engine instruments Iam thinking of using 8 bit DAC chips to drive a volt meter I brought from radio shack. The DAC chip changes volt from 0V to 5V - the meter will just read the amount of volts and I will change the faceplate to read what I want. Your sim is looking good but your controls look the best. Is the controls smooth or jumpe? Iam think there is got to be a better way to feed in control inputs. Take care Ken Trager From simpits-tech@simpits.org Tue Mar 12 16:23:35 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Lee, David) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 11:23:35 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] (no subject) Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1C9E2.423A6680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Alex, Thoses pics of your analog instruments are great! A week ago I couldn't imagine how anyone was doing that stuff and now I see there are some practical ways to make it happen. The electronic part is probably beyond my capabilities at the moment but it's something to shoot for. Thanks for sharing! David ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1C9E2.423A6680 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Alex,
Thoses pics of your analog instruments are great! A week ago I couldn't imagine how anyone was doing that stuff and now I see there are some practical ways to make it happen. The electronic part is probably beyond my capabilities at the moment but it's something to shoot for. Thanks for sharing!
David

 

 
------_=_NextPart_001_01C1C9E2.423A6680-- From simpits-tech@simpits.org Tue Mar 12 16:37:48 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Brian Sikkema) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 16:37:48 Subject: [simpits-tech] Mounting of AI Message-ID: Hey Alex, I just gotta ask, where did you get that seat you're using in your pit? Because it looks identical (except color) to the seat I used for my first "pit" (just a seat with all the controls mounted on it). I pulled mine out of an '84 Mustang myself... Brian ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Wiebe, Alex" Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org To: "'simpits-tech@simpits.org'" Subject: [simpits-tech] Mounting of AI Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 08:51:06 -0600 Gene (and anyone else interested), I managed to borrow a camera last night and I've updated my site to include a shot of how I mounted the guts of the AI back into its case. I also added some shots of my overall progress to date. Not much, but I'm clinging to the 'slow and steady' motto. http://www.geocities.com/ehud42/pics Enjoy! _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From simpits-tech@simpits.org Tue Mar 12 21:26:39 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Wiebe, Alex) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 15:26:39 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Re: Mounting of AI Message-ID: <49161BD15CC4D311B78400C04F109D3A01004D50@wpgexchange.online-can.com> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1CA0C.98FDE940 Content-Type: text/plain Gene: World? I was beginning to wonder what kind of glue you're using. Then I go back and actually LOOK at the pictures I posted - ah! you mean the brand of servo I'm using. The servos I'm using are from a couple of auctions. I have about 20 servos in a box in my basement. All types, brands, styles and connectors. The IAS is driven by a World, the AI by a pair of Futaba's. Ken: Servo update speed is not ideal. I figure I'm getting about 4 updates / second. However, I'm only driving 3 servos at the moment. At 3 characters / update and with the serial Port running at 9600bps / 8N1, I should be able to update over 300 servos / second. My driver only updates those servos that have changed, and priority is given to the main instruments (IAS, AI at the moment). All said, worse case, I should be able to update all 16 servos at least 16 x second (provided my math is correct). So in short, yeah something is definitely miss firing somewhere. My current thoughts are that a) my C++ code is not optimized (although I really don't think that should matter) or b) I'm doing something wrong with my serial port communication that is causing it to pause between each update. Any ideas? If I remember, I'll try to upload my current software to my site tomorrow (I won't be able to get to it tonight). Did you write your own serial driver or are you using Scott's? As for the controls, they're a bit jumpy. There's 2 reasons for that. First, I'm using a second game card to support the Toe-Brakes, and I've been told that the game card and the sound card are fighting each other for the IRQ, thereby causing a 'noisy' signal. The other reason is due to the source of the columns. I'm not sure what the previous owner did to his plane, but he smacked something hard. There are 4 small dimples in the square tubing about 5" from full nose down. Looks like the yokes where pinned somehow and something hit the ailerons causing the column to turn and the square tubing to slam into the bushings that allow the sleave to slide back and forth. It's not unbearable, but annoying none the less. Feels like the detent (?) on cheaper yokes for 'finding' the center. David: This is why this group is so useful! As you can probably tell, my mechanical / finishing skills are very rough. The software I can handle, I even know which end of a soldering iron to hold. But trying to figure out how to connect the servos to the gauges has taken me far too long. Brian: Long story. The shortened version is: I have no idea from what car the seat came from. My nephew picked it up for me at an auto wrecker for me as a favour for some errands I ran for him. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1CA0C.98FDE940 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Mounting of AI

Gene: World? I was beginning to wonder what kind of = glue you're using. Then I go back and actually LOOK at the pictures I = posted - ah! you mean the brand of servo I'm using. The servos I'm = using are from a couple of auctions. I have about 20 servos in a box in = my basement. All types, brands, styles and connectors. The IAS is = driven by a World, the AI by a pair of Futaba's.

Ken: Servo update speed is not ideal. I figure I'm = getting about 4 updates / second. However, I'm only driving 3 servos at = the moment. At 3 characters / update and with the serial Port running = at 9600bps / 8N1, I should be able to update over 300 servos / second. = My driver only updates those servos that have changed, and priority is = given to the main instruments (IAS, AI at the moment). All said, worse = case, I should be able to update all 16 servos at least 16 x second = (provided my math is correct). So in short, yeah something is = definitely miss firing somewhere. My current thoughts are that a) my = C++ code is not optimized (although I really don't think that should = matter) or b) I'm doing something wrong with my serial port = communication that is causing it to pause between each = update.

Any ideas? If I remember, I'll try to upload my = current software to my site tomorrow (I won't be able to get to it = tonight). Did you write your own serial driver or are you using = Scott's?

As for the controls, they're a bit jumpy. There's 2 = reasons for that. First, I'm using a second game card to support the = Toe-Brakes, and I've been told that the game card and the sound card = are fighting each other for the IRQ, thereby causing a 'noisy' signal. = The other reason is due to the source of the columns. I'm not sure what = the previous owner did to his plane, but he smacked something hard. = There are 4 small dimples in the square tubing about 5" from full = nose down. Looks like the yokes where pinned somehow and something hit = the ailerons causing the column to turn and the square tubing to slam = into the bushings that allow the sleave to slide back and forth. It's = not unbearable, but annoying none the less. Feels like the detent (?) = on cheaper yokes for 'finding' the center.

David: This is why this group is so useful! As you = can probably tell, my mechanical / finishing skills are very rough. The = software I can handle, I even know which end of a soldering iron to = hold. But trying to figure out how to connect the servos to the gauges = has taken me far too long.

Brian: Long story. The shortened version is: I have = no idea from what car the seat came from. My nephew picked it up for me = at an auto wrecker for me as a favour for some errands I ran for = him.

------_=_NextPart_001_01C1CA0C.98FDE940-- From simpits-tech@simpits.org Tue Mar 12 23:08:47 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 15:08:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Re: Mounting of AI In-Reply-To: <49161BD15CC4D311B78400C04F109D3A01004D50@wpgexchange.online-can.com> Message-ID: > I go back and actually LOOK at the pictures I posted - ah! you mean the > brand of servo I'm using. The servos I'm using are from a couple of > auctions. I have about 20 servos in a box in my basement. All types, brands, > styles and connectors. The IAS is driven by a World, the AI by a pair of > Futaba's. > World Engines used to make a pretty good low-cost product. I don't even think they're building gear anymore. > Ken: Servo update speed is not ideal. I figure I'm getting about 4 updates / > second. However, I'm only driving 3 servos at the moment. At 3 characters / FYI, to do it "right", you should have no more than 150ms (that's milliseconds) delay between control input and observable change in both the avionics and the flight model. That 150ms reaction time must occur with in reaction time of the real thing. For instance, say you begin a roll manouver(Sp). The AI in the real aircraft will begin to show a change within 500ms of your commanded change. Therefore your simulated AI _must_ begin to show a change within 750ms of your command input. Nasty, eh? :) g. -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Tue Mar 12 23:19:58 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 15:19:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Re: Mounting of AI In-Reply-To: Message-ID: By the way, you can cure your noise problem by buying a cheapie USB joystick, gutting it and hooking its guts to your flight controls. You can then use the joystick port for your toe brakes. g. On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Gene Buckle wrote: > > I go back and actually LOOK at the pictures I posted - ah! you mean the > > brand of servo I'm using. The servos I'm using are from a couple of > > auctions. I have about 20 servos in a box in my basement. All types, brands, > > styles and connectors. The IAS is driven by a World, the AI by a pair of > > Futaba's. > > > World Engines used to make a pretty good low-cost product. I don't even > think they're building gear anymore. > > > Ken: Servo update speed is not ideal. I figure I'm getting about 4 updates / > > second. However, I'm only driving 3 servos at the moment. At 3 characters / > FYI, to do it "right", you should have no more than 150ms (that's > milliseconds) delay between control input and observable change in both > the avionics and the flight model. That 150ms reaction time must occur > with in reaction time of the real thing. > > For instance, say you begin a roll manouver(Sp). The AI in the real > aircraft will begin to show a change within 500ms of your commanded > change. Therefore your simulated AI _must_ begin to show a change within > 750ms of your command input. Nasty, eh? :) > > g. > > > > -- "I'm not crazy, I'm > plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > > -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Tue Mar 12 23:47:01 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (David Lawley) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 18:47:01 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Re: Mounting of AI In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c1ca20$350d68c0$02010a0a@vlogic> I noticed the world engine stuff too, I used to have some gear made by them but felt that the servos were always second rate and sloppy compared to Kraft or the other big name at the time I think started with a "L", can't remember the name. The later made a branded radio for "Hobby Lobby" that was a great gear for the price at the time ('74-'76) Was it EK Logitrol? Something like that anyway. -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org] On Behalf Of Gene Buckle Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 6:09 PM To: 'simpits-tech@simpits.org' Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Re: Mounting of AI > I go back and actually LOOK at the pictures I posted - ah! you mean the > brand of servo I'm using. The servos I'm using are from a couple of > auctions. I have about 20 servos in a box in my basement. All types, brands, > styles and connectors. The IAS is driven by a World, the AI by a pair of > Futaba's. > World Engines used to make a pretty good low-cost product. I don't even think they're building gear anymore. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Wed Mar 13 01:19:45 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 17:19:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Re: Mounting of AI In-Reply-To: <000001c1ca20$350d68c0$02010a0a@vlogic> Message-ID: > I noticed the world engine stuff too, I used to have some gear made by > them but felt that the servos were always second rate and sloppy > compared to Kraft or the other big name at the time I think started with > a "L", can't remember the name. The later made a branded radio for > "Hobby Lobby" that was a great gear for the price at the time ('74-'76) > Was it EK Logitrol? Something like that anyway. > Man, I haven't thought of EK Logictrol in *years*. I still miss my Canon Brick. 3 servos and the receiver all in one tiny little brick. Worked greak for 1/2a stuff. :) g. -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Wed Mar 13 01:08:03 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (David Lawley) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 20:08:03 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] USB Servo controllers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c1ca2b$86ed7d00$02010a0a@vlogic> Anyone know about this device? http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/grouplab/developers/USBPhidgets/GlabServo.ht ml From simpits-tech@simpits.org Wed Mar 13 05:02:08 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Biggles) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 06:02:08 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] Controling simulated instruments Message-ID: <000901c1ca4c$3cde4750$6c9c8418@HOMEPLATE> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1CA54.9BFF54B0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0006_01C1CA54.9C00DB50" ------=_NextPart_001_0006_01C1CA54.9C00DB50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a small problem (big one). Just finished constructing my first instrument (an origional IAS = converterd to a stepper motor). I hooked it up to a Velleman 8000 and 8005 board. With the switches on the PCB i can controll the instrument clockwise = with a confortable speed (full step =3D 2050.6 steps per=20 rotation in Full step mode.) This isnt the problem. Just how to get this baby running with Falcon4. Weeks i have been trying to get it running with VB, but without luck. I need some advice here because im stuck and i want at least one = instrument running before the next Lowland gorilla meet in Holland. Any advice or help? I have been trying to convert the source code i got that is controlling = the K8000 board with FS2. But with no luck (i have no qlue where to start or to end). My first weeks of programming and they have all been one big disaster. Some help is wanted. Thanks in advance, Biggles. p.s. the code controlling the 8000 board aswel as the 8005 code is = includded. ------=_NextPart_001_0006_01C1CA54.9C00DB50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have a small problem (big = one).
Just finished constructing my first = instrument (an=20 origional IAS converterd to a stepper motor).
I hooked it up to a Velleman 8000 and = 8005=20 board.
With the switches on the PCB i can = controll the=20 instrument clockwise with a confortable speed (full step =3D 2050.6 steps per
rotation in Full step = mode.)
 
This isnt the=20 problem.
Just how to get=20 this baby running with Falcon4.
Weeks i have been=20 trying to get it running with VB, but without luck.
I = need some advice=20 here because im stuck and i want at least one instrument running before = the next=20 Lowland gorilla meet in Holland.
 
Any = advice or=20 help?
 
I = have been trying=20 to convert the source code i got that is controlling the K8000 board = with=20 FS2.
But = with no luck (i=20 have no qlue where to start or to end).
My = first weeks of=20 programming and they have all been one big disaster.
 
Some help is=20 wanted.
 
Thanks in=20 advance,
 
Biggles.
 
p.s. the code=20 controlling the 8000 board aswel as the 8005 code is = includded.

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1) \ 8 Channel% =3D (ChannelNo% - 1) Mod 8 Datavar% =3D IOdata%(ChipNo%) And BINNOT(SHL(1, Channel%)) IOoutput ChipNo%, Datavar% End Sub Sub ClearIOchArray (ChannelNo%) Dim Channel% Dim Datavar%, ChipNo% ChipNo% =3D (ChannelNo% - 1) \ 8 Channel% =3D (ChannelNo% - 1) Mod 8 Datavar% =3D IOdata%(ChipNo%) And BINNOT(SHL(1, Channel%)) UpdateIOdataArray ChipNo%, Datavar% End Sub Sub ClearIOChip (ChipNo%) IOoutput ChipNo%, 0 End Sub Sub ClearIOdataArray (ChipNo%) Dim StartChannel% Dim Temp% Dim Datavar$ Dim Channel% 'Update IOdata array IOdata%(ChipNo) =3D IOdata%(ChipNo) And IOconfig%(ChipNo) 'Update IO array StartChannel% =3D ChipNo% * 8 + 1 Temp% =3D IOdata%(ChipNo%) Datavar$ =3D DecToBin(Temp%) For Channel% =3D 0 To 7 If Mid$(Datavar$, 8 - Channel%, 1) =3D "1" Then IO%(StartChannel% + Channel%) =3D 1 Else IO%(StartChannel% + Channel%) =3D 0 End If Next End Sub ' IO CONFIGURATION SUBROUTINES Sub ConfigAllIOasInput () Dim ChipNo% For ChipNo% =3D 0 To MaxIOchip% IOconfig%(ChipNo%) =3D 0 ClearIOChip ChipNo% IOconfig%(ChipNo%) =3D 255 ReadIOchip ChipNo% Next End Sub Sub ConfigAllIOasOutput () Dim ChipNo% For ChipNo% =3D 0 To MaxIOchip% IOconfig%(ChipNo%) =3D 0 Next ClearAllIO End Sub Sub ConfigIOChannelAsInput (ChannelNo%) Dim Channel%, ChipNo% ChipNo% =3D (ChannelNo% - 1) \ 8 Channel% =3D (ChannelNo% - 1) Mod 8 IOconfig%(ChipNo%) =3D IOconfig%(ChipNo%) And BINNOT(SHL(1, = Channel%)) ClearIOchannel ChannelNo% IOconfig%(ChipNo%) =3D IOconfig%(ChipNo%) Or SHL(1, Channel%) ReadIOchannel ChannelNo% End Sub Sub ConfigIOchannelAsOutput (ChannelNo%) Dim Channel%, ChipNo% ChipNo% =3D (ChannelNo% - 1) \ 8 Channel% =3D (ChannelNo% - 1) Mod 8 IOconfig%(ChipNo%) =3D IOconfig%(ChipNo%) And BINNOT(SHL(1, = Channel%)) ClearIOchannel ChannelNo% End Sub Sub ConfigIOchipAsInput (ChipNo%) IOconfig%(ChipNo%) =3D 0 ClearIOChip ChipNo% IOconfig%(ChipNo%) =3D 255 ReadIOchip ChipNo% End Sub Sub ConfigIOchipAsOutput (ChipNo%) IOconfig%(ChipNo%) =3D 0 ClearIOChip ChipNo% End Sub Function DecTo7seg (Decnumber As Integer) As Integer ' Zet een Decimaal getal van 0..9 om in een 7-segment ' tegenwaarde voor sturing van een 7 segment display ' via I2C-bus =20 Dim Temp As Integer Select Case Decnumber Case 0 Temp =3D 63 Case 1 Temp =3D 6 Case 2 Temp =3D 91 Case 3 Temp =3D 79 Case 4 Temp =3D 102 Case 5 Temp =3D 109 Case 6 Temp =3D 125 Case 7 Temp =3D 7 Case 8 Temp =3D 127 Case 9 Temp =3D 111 End Select DecTo7seg =3D Temp End Function ' RADIX CONVERSION SUBROUTINES Function DecToBin$ (Decnumber%) 'Conversion of decimal number (0...255) to 8 bit binary string. '-------------------------------------------------------------- Dim Bin$ Dim Faktor%, i% Bin$ =3D "" Faktor% =3D 128 If Decnumber% <> 0 Then For i% =3D 1 To 8 If Faktor% > Decnumber% Then Bin$ =3D Bin$ + "0" Else Bin$ =3D Bin$ + "1" Decnumber% =3D Decnumber% - Faktor% End If Faktor% =3D Faktor% \ 2 Next DecToBin$ =3D Bin$ Else DecToBin$ =3D "00000000" End If End Function Function DecToHex$ (Decnumber%) DecToHex =3D Hex$(Decnumber%) End Function Function HexToDec% (Hexnumber$) Dim StrLength% Dim decl% Dim dech% =20 Dim StrLenght% StrLength% =3D 0 decl% =3D 0 dech% =3D 0 Hexnumber$ =3D UCase$(Hexnumber$) StrLength% =3D Len(Hexnumber$) decl% =3D Asc(Mid$(Hexnumber$, StrLength%, 1)) If decl% >=3D Asc("A") Then decl% =3D decl% - Asc("A") + 10 Else decl% =3D decl% - Asc("0") End If If StrLength% =3D 2 Then dech% =3D Asc(Mid$(Hexnumber$, 1, 1)) 'Convert most significant = digit If dech% > Asc("A") Then 'Digit > 9 subtract offset A...F dech% =3D dech% - Asc("A") + 10 Else dech% =3D dech% - Asc("0") End If End If HexToDec% =3D 16 * dech% + decl% End Function Sub I2CBusNotBusy () Dim i% out Controlport%, 4 For i% =3D 0 To I2Cbusdelay% Next =20 End Sub Sub I2Cclockpulse () ' Veroorzaak een look-alike Ack-puls op I2C-bus Dim i% out Controlport%, 12 For i% =3D 0 To I2Cbusdelay% Next out Controlport%, 4 For i% =3D 0 To I2Cbusdelay% Next out Controlport%, 12 For i% =3D 0 To I2Cbusdelay% Next End Sub Sub I2CInit () SelectI2CprinterPort 1 I2Cbusdelay% =3D 1 I2CBusNotBusy ConfigAllIOasInput ClearAllDAC ClearAllDA ReadAll End Sub Function I2CInput% () Dim Serdata% Dim j%, i% Dim Inputdata% Serdata% =3D 0 For j% =3D 1 To 8 Serdata% =3D SHL(Serdata%, 1) out Controlport, 4 For i% =3D 0 To I2Cbusdelay% Next Inputdata% =3D Inp(Statusport%) And 16 If Inputdata% <> 0 Then Serdata% =3D Serdata% Or 1 End If out Controlport%, 12 For i% =3D 0 To I2Cbusdelay% Next Next I2CInput% =3D Serdata% End Function Sub I2Cmasterclockpulse () Dim i% out Controlport%, 14 For i% =3D 0 To I2Cbusdelay% Next out Controlport%, 6 For i% =3D 0 To I2Cbusdelay% Next out Controlport%, 14 For i% =3D 0 To I2Cbusdelay% Next out Controlport%, 12 For i% =3D 0 To I2Cbusdelay% Next End Sub Sub I2COutput (Serdata%) Dim Temp% Dim Serdat$ Dim j% Dim DataOut% Dim i% Temp% =3D Serdata% Serdat$ =3D DecToBin(Temp%) For j% =3D 1 To 8 If Mid$(Serdat$, j%, 1) =3D "1" Then DataOut% =3D 12 Else DataOut% =3D 14 End If out Controlport%, DataOut% For i% =3D 0 To I2Cbusdelay% Next DataOut% =3D Inp(Controlport%) And 7 out Controlport%, DataOut% For i% =3D 0 To I2Cbusdelay% Next DataOut% =3D Inp(Controlport%) Or 8 out Controlport%, DataOut% For i% =3D 0 To I2Cbusdelay% Next Next End Sub Sub I2Cstart () Dim i% out Controlport%, 6 For i% =3D 0 To I2Cbusdelay% Next out Controlport%, 14 For i% =3D 0 To I2Cbusdelay% Next End Sub Sub I2CStop () Dim i% out Controlport%, 14 For i% =3D 0 To I2Cbusdelay% Next out Controlport%, 6 For i% =3D 0 To I2Cbusdelay% Next out Controlport%, 4 For i% =3D 0 To I2Cbusdelay% Next End Sub Sub init () ' Initialiseerd de I2C Bus Dim i% out Controlport%, 4 For i% =3D 0 To I2Cbusdelay% Next End Sub ' OUTPUT SUBROUTINES Sub IOoutput (ChipNo%, Datavar%) Dim Temp% Dim StartChannel%, Channel% Dim Datvar$ Temp% =3D Datavar% Datavar% =3D BINNOT(Temp%) Or IOconfig%(ChipNo%) I2Cstart Temp% =3D IOChipCode%(ChipNo%) I2COutput Temp% I2Cclockpulse Temp% =3D Datavar% I2COutput Temp% I2Cclockpulse I2CStop IOdata%(ChipNo%) =3D (IOdata%(ChipNo%) And IOconfig%(ChipNo%)) Or = BINNOT(Datavar%) StartChannel% =3D ChipNo% * 8 + 1 Temp% =3D IOdata%(ChipNo%) Datvar$ =3D DecToBin(Temp%) For Channel% =3D 0 To 7 If Mid$(Datvar$, 8 - Channel%, 1) =3D "1" Then IO%(StartChannel% + Channel%) =3D 1 Else IO%(StartChannel% + Channel%) =3D 0 End If Next End Sub Sub main () Dim CardNo% Dim ChipNo% For CardNo% =3D 0 To MaxIOcard% DACchipCode%(CardNo%) =3D 64 + 2 * CardNo% ADDAchipCode%(CardNo%) =3D 144 + 2 * CardNo% Next For ChipNo% =3D 0 To MaxIOchip% IOChipCode%(ChipNo%) =3D 112 + 2 * ChipNo% Next I2CInit End Sub ' 6 BIT DAC CONVERTER SUBROUTINES Sub OutputDACchannel (ChannelNo%, Datavar%) Dim Serdata% If Datavar% > 63 Then Datavar% =3D 63 End If DAC%(ChannelNo%) =3D Datavar% I2Cstart Serdata% =3D DACchipCode%((ChannelNo% - 1) \ 8) I2COutput Serdata% I2Cclockpulse Serdata% =3D 240 Or ((ChannelNo% - 1) Mod 8) I2COutput Serdata% I2Cclockpulse I2COutput Datavar% I2Cclockpulse I2CStop End Sub ' 8 BIT DA CONVERTER SUBROUTINES Sub OutputDAchannel (ChannelNo%, Datavar%) Dim Temp% DA%(ChannelNo%) =3D Datavar I2Cstart Temp% =3D ADDAchipCode%(ChannelNo% - 1) I2COutput Temp% I2Cclockpulse I2COutput 64 I2Cclockpulse I2COutput Datavar% I2Cclockpulse I2CStop End Sub '8 BIT AD CONVERTER SUBROUTINES Sub ReadADchannel (ChannelNo%) Dim ChipCode%, Serdata% ChipCode% =3D ADDAchipCode%((ChannelNo% - 1) \ 4) I2Cstart I2COutput ChipCode% I2Cclockpulse Serdata% =3D 64 Or ((ChannelNo% - 1) Mod 4) I2COutput Serdata% I2Cclockpulse I2CStop I2Cstart Serdata% =3D ChipCode% Or 1 I2COutput Serdata% I2Cclockpulse AD%(ChannelNo%) =3D I2CInput() I2Cmasterclockpulse AD%(ChannelNo%) =3D I2CInput() I2Cclockpulse I2CStop End Sub Sub ReadADchip (ChipNo%) Dim Channel%, Temp%, Serdata%, k% Channel% =3D ChipNo% * 4 + 1 I2Cstart Temp% =3D ADDAchipCode%(ChipNo%) I2COutput Temp% I2Cclockpulse I2COutput 68 I2Cclockpulse I2CStop I2Cstart Temp% =3D ADDAchipCode%(ChipNo%) Or 1 I2COutput Temp% I2Cclockpulse Serdata% =3D I2CInput() For k% =3D 0 To 3 I2Cmasterclockpulse Serdata% =3D I2CInput() AD%(Channel% + k%) =3D Serdata% Next I2Cclockpulse I2CStop End Sub 'GENERAL SUBROUTINES Sub ReadAll () ReadAllIO ReadAllAD End Sub Sub ReadAllAD () Dim CardNo% Dim ard For CardNo% =3D 0 To MaxIOcard% ReadADchip CardNo% Next End Sub Sub ReadAllIO () Dim ChipNo% For ChipNo% =3D 0 To MaxIOchip% ReadIOchip ChipNo% Next End Sub Sub ReadCard (CardNo%) Dim ChipNo% ChipNo% =3D CardNo% * 2 ReadIOchip ChipNo% ReadIOchip ChipNo% + 1 ReadADchip CardNo% End Sub Sub ReadIOchannel (ChannelNo%) Dim ChipNo% ChipNo% =3D (ChannelNo% - 1) \ 8 ReadIOchip ChipNo% End Sub ' INPUT SUBROUTINES Sub ReadIOchip (ChipNo%) Dim Datavar%, StartChannel%, Temp%, Datvar$, Channel% I2Cstart Datavar% =3D IOChipCode%(ChipNo%) Or 1 I2COutput Datavar% I2Cclockpulse IOdata%(ChipNo%) =3D I2CInput() IOdata%(ChipNo%) =3D BINNOT(IOdata%(ChipNo%)) I2Cclockpulse I2CStop StartChannel% =3D ChipNo% * 8 + 1 Temp% =3D IOdata%(ChipNo%) Datvar$ =3D DecToBin(Temp%) For Channel% =3D 0 To 7 If Mid$(Datvar$, 8 - Channel%, 1) =3D "1" Then IO%(StartChannel% + Channel%) =3D 1 Else IO%(StartChannel% + Channel%) =3D 0 End If Next End Sub Sub SelectI2CprinterPort (PrinterNo%) Select Case PrinterNo Case 0 Statusport% =3D 957 Controlport% =3D 958 Case 1 Statusport% =3D 889 Controlport% =3D 890 Case 2 Statusport% =3D 633 Controlport% =3D 634 End Select End Sub Sub SetAllDA () Dim ChannelNo% For ChannelNo% =3D 1 To MaxDAchannel% OutputDAchannel ChannelNo%, 255 Next End Sub Sub SetAllDAC () Dim ChannelNo% For ChannelNo% =3D 1 To MaxDACchannel DAC%(ChannelNo%) =3D 63 Next UpdateAllDAC End Sub Sub SetAllIO () Dim ChipNo% For ChipNo% =3D 0 To MaxIOchip% IOoutput ChipNo%, 255 Next End Sub Sub SetDACchannel (ChannelNo%) OutputDACchannel ChannelNo%, 63 End Sub Sub SetDACchip (ChipNo%) Dim Channel%, i% Channel% =3D ChipNo% * 8 For i% =3D 1 To 8 DAC%(Channel% + i%) =3D 63 Next UpdateDACchip ChipNo% End Sub Sub SetDAchannel (ChannelNo%) OutputDAchannel ChannelNo%, 255 End Sub Sub SetIOchannel (ChannelNo%) Dim ChipNo%, Channel%, Datavar% ChipNo% =3D (ChannelNo% - 1) \ 8 Channel% =3D (ChannelNo% - 1) Mod 8 Datavar% =3D SHL(1, Channel%) Or IOdata%(ChipNo%) IOoutput ChipNo%, Datavar% End Sub Sub SetIOchArray (ChannelNo%) Dim ChipNo%, Channel%, Datavar% ChipNo% =3D (ChannelNo% - 1) \ 8 Channel% =3D (ChannelNo% - 1) Mod 8 Datavar% =3D IOdata%(ChipNo%) Or SHL(1, Channel%) UpdateIOdataArray ChipNo%, Datavar% End Sub Sub SetIOchip (ChipNo%) IOoutput ChipNo%, 255 End Sub Sub SetIOdataArray (ChipNo%) Dim Temp%, StartChannel%, Datvar$, Channel% ' Update IOdata array Temp% =3D IOconfig%(ChipNo%) IOdata%(ChipNo%) =3D IOdata%(ChipNo%) Or (BINNOT(Temp%)) ' Updata IO array StartChannel% =3D ChipNo% * 8 + 1 Temp% =3D IOdata%(ChipNo%) Datvar$ =3D DecToBin(Temp%) For Channel% =3D 0 To 7 If Mid$(Datvar$, 8 - Channel%, 1) =3D "1" Then IO%(StartChannel% + Channel%) =3D 1 Else IO%(StartChannel% + Channel%) =3D 0 End If Next End Sub Function SHL% (Dec%, Positions%) Dim Temp$ Temp$ =3D Right$(DecToBin(Dec%) + String$(Positions%, "0"), 8) SHL =3D BinToDec(Temp$) End Function Sub UpdateAll () UpdateAllIO UpdateAllDAC UpdateAllDA End Sub Sub UpdateAllDA () Dim ChannelNo%, Temp% For ChannelNo% =3D 1 To MaxDAchannel% Temp% =3D DA%(ChannelNo%) OutputDAchannel ChannelNo%, Temp% Next End Sub Sub UpdateAllDAC () Dim CardNo% For CardNo% =3D 0 To MaxIOcard% UpdateDACchip CardNo% Next End Sub Sub UpdateAllIO () Dim ChipNo%, Temp% For ChipNo% =3D 0 To MaxIOchip% Temp% =3D IOdata%(ChipNo%) IOoutput ChipNo%, Temp% Next End Sub Sub UpdateCard (CardNo%) Dim ChipNo% ChipNo% =3D CardNo% * 2 UpdateIOchip ChipNo% UpdateIOchip ChipNo% + 1 UpdateDACchip CardNo% UpdateDAchannel CardNo% + 1 End Sub Sub UpdateDACchannel (ChannelNo%) Dim Temp% Temp% =3D DAC%(ChannelNo%) OutputDACchannel ChannelNo%, Temp% End Sub Sub UpdateDACchip (ChipNo%) Dim Serdata%, Channel%, k%, Temp% I2Cstart Serdata% =3D DACchipCode%(ChipNo%) I2COutput Serdata% I2Cclockpulse I2COutput 0 I2Cclockpulse Channel% =3D ChipNo% * 8 For k% =3D 1 To 8 If DAC%(Channel% + k%) > 63 Then DAC%(Channel% + k%) =3D 63 End If Temp% =3D DAC%(Channel% + k%) I2COutput Temp% I2Cclockpulse Next I2CStop End Sub Sub UpdateDAchannel (ChannelNo%) Dim Temp% Temp% =3D DA%(ChannelNo%) OutputDAchannel ChannelNo%, Temp% End Sub Sub UpdateIOchip (ChipNo%) Dim Temp% Temp% =3D IOdata%(ChipNo%) IOoutput ChipNo%, Temp% End Sub ' UPDATE IODATA & IO ARRAY SUBROUTINES Sub UpdateIOdataArray (ChipNo%, Datavar%) Dim Temp%, StartChannel%, Datvar$, Channel% ' Update IOdata array IOdata%(ChipNo%) =3D IOdata%(ChipNo%) And IOconfig%(ChipNo%) Temp% =3D IOconfig%(ChipNo%) IOdata%(ChipNo%) =3D IOdata%(ChipNo%) Or (Datavar% And = BINNOT(Temp%)) 'Update IO array StartChannel% =3D ChipNo% * 8 + 1 Temp% =3D IOdata%(ChipNo%) Datvar$ =3D DecToBin(Temp%) For Channel% =3D 0 To 7 If Mid$(Datvar$, 8 - Channel%, 1) =3D "1" Then IO%(StartChannel% + Channel%) =3D 1 Else IO%(StartChannel% + Channel%) =3D 0 End If Next End Sub ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1CA54.9BFF54B0 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="I2CMOT16.BAS" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="I2CMOT16.BAS" 'This program contains procedures and functions for use with the = 'VELLEMAN Stepping Motor Card K8005' Option Explicit Global Const MaxMotorCards% =3D 15 Global Statusport% Global ControlPort% Global I2cBusDelay% Global OVERWRITE% Global WaitSpeed% Global MotorCardCode%(MaxMotorCards%) Global MotorCardData%(MaxMotorCards%) Declare Function inp Lib "InpOut16.DLL" (ByVal port%) As Integer Declare Sub out Lib "InpOut16.DLL" (ByVal port%, ByVal Value%) Function BINNOT% (dec%) Dim i As Integer Dim tempstr As String Dim complement As String =09 tempstr =3D DecToBin(dec%) complement$ =3D "" For i% =3D 1 To Len(tempstr) If Mid$(tempstr, i%, 1) =3D "1" Then complement$ =3D complement$ + "0" Else complement$ =3D complement$ + "1" End If Next BINNOT% =3D BinToDec(complement$) End Function Function BinToDec% (BinNumber$) Dim weight As Integer Dim dec As Integer Dim i As Integer weight% =3D 1 dec% =3D 0 'Reset decimal number If BinNumber$ <> "00000000" Then For i% =3D Len(BinNumber$) To 1 Step -1 If Mid$(BinNumber$, i%, 1) =3D "1" Then dec% =3D dec% + weight% 'If bit=3D1 then add weigth factor End If weight% =3D weight% * 2 'Multiply weight factor by 2 Next BinToDec% =3D dec% 'Store result Else BinToDec% =3D 0 End If End Function 'RADIX CONVERSION Function DecToBin$ (DecNumber%) Dim faktor As Integer Dim i As Integer Dim bin As String =09 'Conversion of decimal number (0...255) to 8 bit binary string. '-------------------------------------------------------------- bin$ =3D "" faktor% =3D 128 If DecNumber% <> 0 Then For i% =3D 1 To 8 If faktor% > DecNumber% Then bin$ =3D bin$ + "0" Else bin$ =3D bin$ + "1" DecNumber% =3D DecNumber% - faktor% End If faktor% =3D faktor% \ 2 Next DecToBin$ =3D bin$ Else DecToBin$ =3D "00000000" End If End Function Sub I2CBusNotBusy () out ControlPort%, 4 End Sub Sub I2Cclockpulse () Dim i As Integer =09 out ControlPort%, 12 For i% =3D 0 To I2cBusDelay% Next out ControlPort%, 4 For i% =3D 0 To I2cBusDelay% Next out ControlPort%, 12 For i% =3D 0 To I2cBusDelay% Next End Sub Sub I2CINIT () SelectI2CprinterPort 1 I2cBusDelay% =3D 1 I2CBusNotBusy OVERWRITE% =3D 1 WaitSpeed% =3D 20000 End Sub Function I2Cinput% () Dim serdata As Integer Dim i As Integer Dim j As Integer Dim inputdata As Integer serdata% =3D 0 For j% =3D 1 To 8 serdata% =3D SHL(serdata%, 1) out ControlPort%, 4 For i% =3D 0 To I2cBusDelay% Next inputdata% =3D inp(Statusport%) And 16 If inputdata% <> 0 Then serdata% =3D serdata% Or 1 End If out ControlPort%, 12 For i% =3D 0 To I2cBusDelay% Next Next I2Cinput% =3D serdata% End Function Sub I2Cmasterclockpulse () Dim i As Integer out ControlPort%, 14 For i% =3D 0 To I2cBusDelay% Next out ControlPort%, 6 For i% =3D 0 To I2cBusDelay% Next out ControlPort%, 14 For i% =3D 0 To I2cBusDelay% Next out ControlPort%, 12 For i% =3D 0 To I2cBusDelay% Next End Sub Sub I2Coutput (serdata%) Dim dataout As Integer Dim temp As Integer Dim SerDat As String Dim j As Integer Dim i As Integer temp% =3D serdata% SerDat$ =3D DecToBin(temp%) For j% =3D 1 To 8 If Mid$(SerDat$, j%, 1) =3D "1" Then dataout% =3D 12 Else dataout% =3D 14 End If out ControlPort%, dataout% For i% =3D 0 To I2cBusDelay% Next dataout% =3D inp(ControlPort%) And 7 out ControlPort%, dataout% For i% =3D 0 To I2cBusDelay% Next dataout% =3D inp(ControlPort%) Or 8 out ControlPort%, dataout% For i% =3D 0 To I2cBusDelay% Next Next End Sub Sub I2Cstart () Dim i As Integer For i% =3D 0 To I2cBusDelay% Next out ControlPort%, 6 For i% =3D 0 To I2cBusDelay% Next out ControlPort%, 14 For i% =3D 0 To I2cBusDelay% Next End Sub Sub I2Cstop () Dim i As Integer out ControlPort%, 14 For i% =3D 0 To I2cBusDelay% Next out ControlPort%, 6 For i% =3D 0 To I2cBusDelay% Next out ControlPort%, 4 For i% =3D 0 To I2cBusDelay% Next End Sub Sub main () Dim cardno As Integer For cardno% =3D 0 To MaxMotorCards% MotorCardCode%(cardno%) =3D 192 + (2 * cardno%) Next I2CINIT End Sub Sub ReadAllMotors () Dim counter As Integer For counter% =3D 0 To MaxMotorCards% ReadMotor counter% Next End Sub ' INPUT SUBROUTINES Sub ReadMotor (cardno%) Dim speed As Integer Dim datavar As Integer For speed% =3D 1 To WaitSpeed%: Next speed% I2Cstart datavar% =3D MotorCardCode%(cardno%) Or 1 I2Coutput datavar% I2Cclockpulse MotorCardData%(cardno%) =3D I2Cinput() I2Cclockpulse I2Cstop End Sub ' I2C COMMUNICATION SUBROUTINES Sub SelectI2CprinterPort (PrinterNo%) Select Case PrinterNo% Case 0 Statusport% =3D 957 ControlPort% =3D 958 Case 1 Statusport% =3D 889 ControlPort% =3D 890 Case 2 Statusport% =3D 633 ControlPort% =3D 634 End Select End Sub 'OUTPUT SUBROUTINES FOR ALL CARDS Sub SendAllMotors (Commando%, speed%, Steps%) Dim counter As Integer Dim temp1 As Integer Dim temp2 As Integer Dim temp3 As Integer temp1% =3D Commando% temp2% =3D speed% temp3% =3D Steps% For counter% =3D 0 To MaxMotorCards% =09 SendMotor counter%, temp1%, temp2%, temp3% Next End Sub Sub SendAllSetCCW () Dim counter As Integer For counter% =3D 0 To MaxMotorCards% SendSetCCW counter% Next End Sub Sub SendAllSetCCWFull () Dim counter As Integer For counter% =3D 0 To MaxMotorCards% SendSetCCWFull counter% Next End Sub Sub SendAllSetCCWHalf () Dim counter As Integer For counter% =3D 0 To MaxMotorCards% SendSetCCWHalf counter% Next End Sub Sub SendAllSetCW () Dim counter As Integer For counter% =3D 0 To MaxMotorCards% SendSetCW counter% Next End Sub Sub SendAllSetCWFull () Dim counter As Integer For counter% =3D 0 To MaxMotorCards% =09 SendSetCWFull counter% Next End Sub Sub SendAllSetCWHalf () Dim counter As Integer For counter% =3D 0 To MaxMotorCards% SendSetCWHalf counter% Next End Sub 'SETTING SUBROUTINES FOR ALL CARDS Sub SendAllSetFree () Dim counter As Integer For counter% =3D 0 To MaxMotorCards% SendSetFree counter% Next End Sub Sub SendAllSetFull () Dim counter As Integer For counter% =3D 0 To MaxMotorCards% SendSetFull counter% Next End Sub Sub SendAllSetHalf () Dim counter As Integer For counter% =3D 0 To MaxMotorCards% SendSetHalf counter% Next End Sub Sub SendAllSetTake () Dim counter As Integer For counter% =3D 0 To MaxMotorCards% SendSetTake counter% Next End Sub Sub SendAllStepCCW (speed%, Steps%) Dim counter As Integer Dim temp1 As Integer Dim temp2 As Integer temp1% =3D speed% temp2% =3D Steps% For counter% =3D 0 To MaxMotorCards% SendStepCCW counter%, temp1%, temp2% Next End Sub 'STEPPING SUBROUTINES FOR ALL CARDS Sub SendAllStepCCWFull (speed%, Steps%) Dim counter As Integer Dim temp1 As Integer Dim temp2 As Integer temp1% =3D speed% temp2% =3D Steps% For counter% =3D 0 To MaxMotorCards% SendStepCCWfull counter%, temp1%, temp2% Next End Sub Sub SendAllStepCCWHalf (speed%, Steps%) Dim counter As Integer Dim temp1 As Integer Dim temp2 As Integer temp1% =3D speed% temp2% =3D Steps% For counter% =3D 0 To MaxMotorCards% SendStepCCWHalf counter%, temp1%, temp2% Next End Sub Sub SendAllStepCW (speed%, Steps%) Dim counter As Integer Dim temp1 As Integer Dim temp2 As Integer temp1% =3D speed% temp2% =3D Steps% For counter% =3D 0 To MaxMotorCards% SendStepCW counter%, temp1%, temp2% Next End Sub Sub SendAllStepCWFULL (speed%, Steps%) Dim counter As Integer Dim temp1 As Integer Dim temp2 As Integer temp1% =3D speed% temp2% =3D Steps% For counter% =3D 0 To MaxMotorCards% =09 SendStepCWfull counter%, temp1%, temp2% Next End Sub Sub SendAllStepCWHalf (speed%, Steps%) Dim counter As Integer Dim temp1 As Integer Dim temp2 As Integer temp1% =3D speed% temp2% =3D Steps% For counter% =3D 0 To MaxMotorCards% SendStepCWHalf counter%, temp1%, temp2% Next End Sub Sub SendAllStepFull (speed%, Steps%) Dim counter As Integer Dim temp1 As Integer Dim temp2 As Integer temp1% =3D speed% temp2% =3D Steps% For counter% =3D 0 To MaxMotorCards% SendStepFull counter%, temp1%, temp2% Next End Sub Sub SendAllStepHalf (speed%, Steps%) Dim counter As Integer Dim temp1 As Integer Dim temp2 As Integer temp1% =3D speed% temp2% =3D Steps% For counter% =3D 0 To MaxMotorCards% =09 SendStepHalf counter%, temp1%, temp2% Next End Sub Sub SendAllStepping (speed%, Steps%) Dim counter As Integer Dim temp1 As Integer Dim temp2 As Integer temp1% =3D speed% temp2% =3D Steps% For counter% =3D 0 To MaxMotorCards% SendStepping counter%, temp1%, temp2% Next End Sub Sub SendAllStop () Dim counter As Integer For counter% =3D 0 To MaxMotorCards% SendStop counter% Next End Sub ' OUTPUT SUBROUTINES FOR ONE CARD Sub SendMotor (MotorNo%, Commando%, speed%, Steps%) Dim counter As Integer Dim temp As Integer If OVERWRITE% =3D 0 Then MotorCardData%(MotorNo%) =3D 127 While (MotorCardData%(MotorNo%) <> 1) And (MotorCardData%(MotorNo%) <> = 255) ReadMotor (MotorNo%) Wend End If =20 For counter =3D 1 To WaitSpeed%: Next I2Cstart temp% =3D MotorCardCode%(MotorNo%) I2Coutput temp% I2Cclockpulse =09 temp% =3D Commando% I2Coutput temp% I2Cclockpulse =09 temp% =3D speed% I2Coutput temp% I2Cclockpulse =09 temp% =3D (Steps% - (Steps% Mod 255)) / 255 I2Coutput temp% =20 I2Cclockpulse temp% =3D Steps% Mod 255 I2Coutput temp% I2Cclockpulse =20 I2Cstop End Sub Sub SendSetCCW (MotorNo%) Dim temp As Integer temp% =3D MotorNo% SendMotor temp%, 96, 0, 0 End Sub Sub SendSetCCWFull (MotorNo%) Dim temp As Integer temp% =3D MotorNo% SendMotor temp%, 112, 0, 0 End Sub Sub SendSetCCWHalf (MotorNo%) Dim temp As Integer temp% =3D MotorNo% SendMotor temp%, 120, 0, 0 End Sub Sub SendSetCW (MotorNo%) Dim temp As Integer temp% =3D MotorNo% SendMotor temp%, 64, 0, 0 End Sub Sub SendSetCWFull (MotorNo%) Dim temp As Integer temp% =3D MotorNo% SendMotor temp%, 80, 0, 0 End Sub Sub SendSetCWHalf (MotorNo%) Dim temp As Integer temp% =3D MotorNo% SendMotor temp%, 88, 0, 0 End Sub ' SETTING SUBROUTINES FOR ONE CARD Sub SendSetFree (MotorNo%) Dim temp As Integer temp% =3D MotorNo% SendMotor temp%, 4, 0, 0 End Sub Sub SendSetFull (MotorNo%) Dim temp As Integer temp% =3D MotorNo% SendMotor temp%, 16, 0, 0 End Sub Sub SendSetHalf (MotorNo%) Dim temp As Integer temp% =3D MotorNo% SendMotor temp%, 24, 0, 0 End Sub Sub SendSetTake (MotorNo%) Dim temp As Integer temp% =3D MotorNo% SendMotor temp%, 6, 0, 0 End Sub ' STEPPING PROCEDURES ONE CARD Sub SendStepCCW (MotorNo%, speed%, Steps%) Dim temp As Integer Dim temp1 As Integer Dim temp2 As Integer temp% =3D MotorNo% temp1% =3D speed% temp2% =3D Steps% If Steps% =3D 0 Then SendMotor temp%, 231, temp1%, temp2% Else SendMotor = temp%, 230, temp1%, temp2% End Sub Sub SendStepCCWfull (MotorNo%, speed%, Steps%) Dim temp As Integer Dim temp1 As Integer Dim temp2 As Integer temp% =3D MotorNo% temp1% =3D speed% temp2% =3D Steps% If Steps% =3D 0 Then SendMotor temp%, 247, temp1%, temp2% Else SendMotor = temp%, 246, temp1%, temp2% End Sub Sub SendStepCCWHalf (MotorNo%, speed%, Steps%) Dim temp As Integer Dim temp1 As Integer Dim temp2 As Integer temp% =3D MotorNo% temp1% =3D speed% temp2% =3D Steps% If Steps% =3D 0 Then SendMotor temp%, 255, temp1%, temp2% Else SendMotor = temp%, 254, temp1%, temp2% End Sub Sub SendStepCW (MotorNo%, speed%, Steps%) Dim temp As Integer Dim temp1 As Integer Dim temp2 As Integer temp% =3D MotorNo% temp1% =3D speed% temp2% =3D Steps% If Steps% =3D 0 Then SendMotor temp%, 199, temp1%, temp2% Else SendMotor = temp%, 198, temp1%, temp2% End Sub Sub SendStepCWfull (MotorNo%, speed%, Steps%) Dim temp As Integer Dim temp1 As Integer Dim temp2 As Integer temp% =3D MotorNo% temp1% =3D speed% temp2% =3D Steps% If Steps% =3D 0 Then SendMotor temp%, 215, temp1%, temp2% Else SendMotor = temp%, 214, temp1%, temp2% End Sub Sub SendStepCWHalf (MotorNo%, speed%, Steps%) Dim temp As Integer Dim temp1 As Integer Dim temp2 As Integer temp% =3D MotorNo% temp1% =3D speed% temp2% =3D Steps% If Steps% =3D 0 Then SendMotor temp%, 223, temp1%, temp2% Else SendMotor = temp%, 222, temp1%, temp2% End Sub Sub SendStepFull (MotorNo%, speed%, Steps%) Dim temp As Integer Dim temp1 As Integer Dim temp2 As Integer temp% =3D MotorNo% temp1% =3D speed% temp2% =3D Steps% If Steps% =3D 0 Then SendMotor temp%, 151, temp1%, temp2% Else SendMotor = temp%, 150, temp1%, temp2% End Sub Sub SendStepHalf (MotorNo%, speed%, Steps%) Dim temp As Integer Dim temp1 As Integer Dim temp2 As Integer temp% =3D MotorNo% temp1% =3D speed% temp2% =3D Steps% If Steps% =3D 0 Then SendMotor temp%, 159, temp1%, temp2% Else SendMotor = temp%, 158, temp1%, temp2% End Sub Sub SendStepping (MotorNo%, speed%, Steps%) Dim temp As Integer Dim temp1 As Integer Dim temp2 As Integer temp% =3D MotorNo% temp1% =3D speed% temp2% =3D Steps% If Steps% =3D 0 Then SendMotor temp%, 135, temp1%, temp2% Else SendMotor = temp%, 134, temp1%, temp2% End Sub Sub SendStop (MotorNo%) Dim temp As Integer Dim temp1 As Integer temp% =3D MotorNo% temp1% =3D OVERWRITE% OVERWRITE% =3D 1 SendMotor temp%, 0, 0, 0 OVERWRITE% =3D temp1% End Sub Function SHL% (dec%, Positions%) Dim tempstr As String tempstr =3D Right$(DecToBin(dec%) + String$(Positions%, "0"), 8) SHL =3D BinToDec(tempstr) End Function Sub SpeedTestNText () Dim counter As Integer Dim reliable As Integer Dim counter2 As Integer WaitSpeed =3D 2000 MotorCardData(0) =3D 2 I2cBusDelay =3D 0 counter =3D 0 Do counter =3D counter + 1 I2cBusDelay =3D counter ReadMotor (0) Loop Until ((MotorCardData(0) =3D 1) Or (counter =3D 32000)) Do reliable =3D 1 I2cBusDelay =3D counter For counter2 =3D 1 To 30 ReadMotor (0) If MotorCardData(0) <> 1 Then reliable =3D 0 Next counter2 If reliable <> 1 Then counter =3D counter + 1 Loop Until reliable =3D 1 End Sub Sub SpeedTestText () Dim counter As Integer Dim reliable As Integer Dim counter2 As Integer WaitSpeed =3D 2000 MsgBox "TEST PROGRAM K8005 FOR QuickBasic" I2CBusNotBusy MsgBox "I2C bus is free, set the K8005 to work as steppermotorcard zero = and switch the unit on" MotorCardData(0) =3D 2 I2cBusDelay =3D 0 counter =3D 0 Do counter =3D counter + 1 I2cBusDelay =3D counter ReadMotor (0) Loop Until ((MotorCardData(0) =3D 1) Or (counter =3D 32000)) MsgBox "Value found for the I2CBusDelay" + Str$(counter) Do reliable =3D 1 MsgBox "Testing reliability of value", counter I2cBusDelay =3D counter For counter2 =3D 1 To 30 ReadMotor (0) If MotorCardData(0) <> 1 Then reliable =3D 0 Next counter2 If reliable =3D 1 Then MsgBox "Value " + Str$(counter) + " is OK as = value for I2CBusDelay" Else counter =3D counter + 1 Loop Until reliable =3D 1 End Sub ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1CA54.9BFF54B0-- From simpits-tech@simpits.org Wed Mar 13 05:18:18 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Wiebe, Alex) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 23:18:18 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Reverse engineering a Win32 DLL Message-ID: <49161BD15CC4D311B78400C04F109D3A01004D52@wpgexchange.online-can.com> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1CA4E.7C3B1070 Content-Type: text/plain Scott Edwards has a DLL available for downloading (http://www.seetron.com/sscdll.zip) that sounds like it can drive the servos better then my code. Only problem, he doesn't include a .LIB or .H file to use it with C/C++. He provides a VB sample, however, I do not have VB installed, and have invested much time and effort into my C++ code (which by the way I've added to my site for people to grab). I'm trying to figure out a way to use the .dll with C++. Somehow I need to use the right combination of dumpbin, lib, and a .def file to create the .lib file that will allow me to link against his library, but so far I'm stumped. Anybody done this before? ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1CA4E.7C3B1070 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Reverse engineering a Win32 DLL

Scott Edwards has a DLL available for downloading (http://www.seetron.com/sscdll.zip) that sounds = like it can drive the servos better then my code. Only problem, he = doesn't include a .LIB or .H file to use it with C/C++. He provides a = VB sample, however, I do not have VB installed, and have invested much = time and effort into my C++ code (which by the way I've added to my = site for people to grab).

I'm trying to figure out a way to use the .dll with = C++. Somehow I need to use the right combination of dumpbin, lib, and a = .def file to create the .lib file that will allow me to link against = his library, but so far I'm stumped.

Anybody done this before?

------_=_NextPart_001_01C1CA4E.7C3B1070-- From simpits-tech@simpits.org Wed Mar 13 07:23:28 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (=?iso-8859-1?Q?H=F6ltschi_Thomas?=) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 08:23:28 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] Reverse engineering a Win32 DLL Message-ID: Alex, You can use the #import "..." command in your code to include the DLL. Visual C++ generates the necessary files to use the interfaces. See the help file for more information. Thomas ---------------------------- Thomas Höltschi Staefa, Switzerland See my project at http://www.dplanet.ch/users/thoeltschi/fsprj.htm -----Original Message----- From: Wiebe, Alex [mailto:AWiebe@online-can.com] Sent: Mittwoch, 13. März 2002 06:18 To: 'simpits-tech@simpits.org' Subject: [simpits-tech] Reverse engineering a Win32 DLL Scott Edwards has a DLL available for downloading ( http://www.seetron.com/sscdll.zip ) that sounds like it can drive the servos better then my code. Only problem, he doesn't include a .LIB or .H file to use it with C/C++. He provides a VB sample, however, I do not have VB installed, and have invested much time and effort into my C++ code (which by the way I've added to my site for people to grab). I'm trying to figure out a way to use the .dll with C++. Somehow I need to use the right combination of dumpbin, lib, and a .def file to create the .lib file that will allow me to link against his library, but so far I'm stumped. Anybody done this before? From simpits-tech@simpits.org Wed Mar 13 11:05:18 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Marv De Beque) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 06:05:18 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] EPIC Gear for Sale! In-Reply-To: <000901c1ca4c$3cde4750$6c9c8418@HOMEPLATE> Message-ID: <3457C144-3672-11D6-9D3E-000502DE6569@speakeasy.net> Hi! Jody asked me to drop you guys a line and tell you he has the full suite of EPIC cards for sale. He wanted to have the Simpit group get first shot at it before it goes to Ebay. If you are looking (or thinking of looking) for EPIC gear, please drop him a line directly at: sixctat@rogers.com Good luck! Marv From simpits-tech@simpits.org Wed Mar 13 13:18:59 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Ken Trager) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 08:18:59 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Re: Mounting of AI References: <49161BD15CC4D311B78400C04F109D3A01004D50@wpgexchange.online-can.com> Message-ID: <3C8F51C3.E66913DF@clt.bellsouth.net> --------------91F71C686375EF3B58D93C04 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alex > Did you write your own serial driver or are you using Scott's? No I used Scott .dll file because I use VB and the process he uses say that do not update the servo position unless it changes. The problem I ran into was that the timer I used in VB was not updating fast. I was using N1 as a test gauge and the numbers would jump from 45% to 65% and then the servo would jump. I have not had time but Iam thinking to just change the timer to update the number every 10MS and then the number would not be jumping around so fast. Right now, I am working on getting the DAC instrument working. I think it will be smoother and someone else is doing it that way. I do not know his name or webpage since the last reload of my computer. I do know that he is using the K8000 board as it has 9 DAC on it. > As for the controls, they're a bit jumpy. There's 2 reasons for that. > First, I'm using a second game card to support the Toe-Brakes, and > I've been told that the game card and the sound card are fighting each > other for the IRQ, thereby causing a 'noisy' signal. Iam using a Quad P4 joystick port which has 4 ports on it and it does work but my controls are jumpe too. I like Gene's idea of a USB port stick gutted - maybe I will try that next. > There are 4 small dimples in the square tubing about 5" from full nose > down. Looks like the yokes where pinned somehow and something hit the > ailerons causing the column to turn and the square tubing to slam into > the bushings that allow the sleave to slide back and forth. It's not > unbearable, but annoying none the less. Oh, that bad - He maybe had the control column lock in - You maybe can fill the dimples with bondo and sand it smooth. Good luck and keep up the great work!! Ken Trager --------------91F71C686375EF3B58D93C04 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alex
 Did you write your own serial driver or are you using Scott's?
No I used Scott .dll file because I use VB and the process he uses say that do not update
the servo position unless it changes. The problem I ran into was that the timer I used in VB
was not updating fast. I was using N1 as a test gauge and the numbers would jump from 45% to 65%
and then the servo would jump. I have not had time but Iam thinking to just change the timer to update the number every 10MS and then the number would not be jumping around so fast.

Right now, I am working on getting the DAC instrument working. I think it will be smoother and someone else is doing it that way. I do not know his name or webpage since the last reload of my computer.
I do know that he is using the K8000 board as it has 9 DAC on it.

As for the controls, they're a bit jumpy. There's 2 reasons for that. First, I'm using a second game card to support the Toe-Brakes, and I've been told that the game card and the sound card are fighting each other for the IRQ, thereby causing a 'noisy' signal.
Iam using a Quad P4 joystick port which has 4 ports on it and it does work but my controls are jumpe
too. I like Gene's idea of a USB port stick gutted  - maybe I will try that next.
There are 4 small dimples in the square tubing about 5" from full nose down. Looks like the yokes where pinned somehow and something hit the ailerons causing the column to turn and the square tubing to slam into the bushings that allow the sleave to slide back and forth. It's not unbearable, but annoying none the less.
Oh, that bad - He maybe had the control column lock in - You maybe can fill the dimples with bondo
and sand it smooth.

Good luck and keep up the great work!!

Ken Trager --------------91F71C686375EF3B58D93C04-- From simpits-tech@simpits.org Wed Mar 13 16:33:24 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Gene Buckle) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 08:33:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] EPIC Gear for Sale! In-Reply-To: <3457C144-3672-11D6-9D3E-000502DE6569@speakeasy.net> Message-ID: Any idea why he's selling it? g. On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, Marv De Beque wrote: > Hi! > > Jody asked me to drop you guys a line and tell you he has the full suite > of EPIC cards for sale. > > He wanted to have the Simpit group get first shot at it before it goes > to Ebay. > > If you are looking (or thinking of looking) for EPIC gear, please drop > him a line directly at: > > sixctat@rogers.com > > Good luck! > > Marv > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > > -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Wed Mar 13 18:39:24 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Brian Sikkema) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 18:39:24 Subject: [simpits-tech] Game Gear Displays? Message-ID: Hey guys, I've got a Sega Game gear that I've been fooling around with for a little bit now (another non-pit related project). Anyway, while poking around for info on it today I came up with this site: http://smspower.speedhost.com/dev/docs/index.shtml It aparently contains a ton of very usefull info on the sega Game Gear and Master System (the game gear was just a scaled-down version of the Master System). Anyway, I havent checked out all the info quite yet, but I think there's a possibility that these docs may give the info required to run the Game Gear displays - color backlit LCDs, 2.75x2 inches! Might have some practical application for someone on the list I thought. And Game Gears are dirt cheap, you can pick them up off eBay for next to nothing. Brian _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From simpits-tech@simpits.org Wed Mar 13 19:06:01 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (F16) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 20:06:01 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] lighted pushbutton switches and displays Message-ID: <01C1CACA.A1D54E00.f16@xflight.de> Hello, I have a nice link to a company to build lighted pushbutton switches and displays. Here is the address: http://www.vivisun.com/home.html Have a nice day Martin "Pegasus" From simpits-tech@simpits.org Wed Mar 13 19:19:22 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Steve Smith) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 13:19:22 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] lighted pushbutton switches and displays Message-ID: Martin, What do they charge for these? Or did you just mean it as reference material? Steve > Hello, > > I have a nice link to a company to build lighted pushbutton switches and displays. Here is the address: > http://www.vivisun.com/home.html > > Have a nice day > Martin "Pegasus" > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > > From simpits-tech@simpits.org Wed Mar 13 19:36:12 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (F16) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 20:36:12 +0100 Subject: AW: [simpits-tech] lighted pushbutton switches and displays Message-ID: <01C1CACE.C07D5EC0.f16@xflight.de> Hi Steve, I don't know, I found the address in the last hour. I will ask the company for prizes to the switches. I hope, the prizes are pleasant ;-) Martin From simpits-tech@simpits.org Wed Mar 13 22:01:25 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Wiebe, Alex) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 16:01:25 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] RE: Reverse engineering a Win32 DLL Message-ID: <49161BD15CC4D311B78400C04F109D3A01004D5A@wpgexchange.online-can.com> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1CADA.9E819BE0 Content-Type: text/plain Unfortunately the #import only works with COM components. The import is a type library, of which the SSC05.DLL has none. Ken, the SSC can handle 15 updates / second. Check out some of the links off Scott's website. There is a very cool wooden mirror that someone built. He has 830 servos being updated 15 times / second to produce a very impressive display. I'd say crank up the timer to fire as often as possible, the SSC05.DLL apparently handles any possible buffer overrides. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1CADA.9E819BE0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Reverse engineering a Win32 DLL

Unfortunately the #import only works with COM = components. The import is a type library, of which the SSC05.DLL has = none.

Ken, the SSC can handle 15 updates / second. Check = out some of the links off Scott's website. There is a very cool wooden = mirror that someone built. He has 830 servos being updated 15 times / = second to produce a very impressive display. I'd say crank up the timer = to fire as often as possible, the SSC05.DLL apparently handles any = possible buffer overrides.

------_=_NextPart_001_01C1CADA.9E819BE0-- From simpits-tech@simpits.org Wed Mar 13 22:58:17 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Marv De Beque) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 17:58:17 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] EPIC Gear for Sale! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Yes, but why not ask Jody? Marv On Wednesday, March 13, 2002, at 11:33 AM, Gene Buckle wrote: > Any idea why he's selling it? > > g. > > On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, Marv De Beque wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> Jody asked me to drop you guys a line and tell you he has the full >> suite >> of EPIC cards for sale. >> >> He wanted to have the Simpit group get first shot at it before it goes >> to Ebay. >> >> If you are looking (or thinking of looking) for EPIC gear, please drop >> him a line directly at: >> >> sixctat@rogers.com >> >> Good luck! >> >> Marv >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Simpits-tech mailing list >> Simpits-tech@simpits.org >> http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >> To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above >> page. Thanks! >> >> > > -- > "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > From simpits-tech@simpits.org Thu Mar 14 16:50:50 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 08:50:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Get a load of this... Message-ID: http://www.douglasdc3.com/dc2half/dc2half.htm g. -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Thu Mar 14 21:15:02 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Ken Trager) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 16:15:02 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Question about Gas Discharge Displays References: <49161BD15CC4D311B78400C04F109D3A01004D4C@wpgexchange.online-can.com> Message-ID: <3C9112D6.4FB9FFB1@clt.bellsouth.net> Anyone out there know if the Gas Discharge display are like normal seven segment LED's. I got a radio panel and it has Gas Discharge display's and I would like to know if you can light them up like LED's. Just put 3 to 5 volts to thwm and they light - or how do I do that? Thanks Ken Trager kenamt@bellsouth.net From simpits-tech@simpits.org Thu Mar 14 22:48:59 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Marv De Beque) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 17:48:59 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Question about Gas Discharge Displays In-Reply-To: <3C9112D6.4FB9FFB1@clt.bellsouth.net> Message-ID: Sounds like a VFD. If it is, the answer is no. Marv On Thursday, March 14, 2002, at 04:15 PM, Ken Trager wrote: > Anyone out there know if the Gas Discharge display are like normal seven > segment LED's. > > I got a radio panel and it has Gas Discharge display's and I would like > to know if > you can light them up like LED's. Just put 3 to 5 volts to thwm and they > light - or > how do I do that? > > Thanks > > Ken Trager > kenamt@bellsouth.net > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > From simpits-tech@simpits.org Fri Mar 15 00:32:31 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 16:32:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Question about Gas Discharge Displays In-Reply-To: <3C9112D6.4FB9FFB1@clt.bellsouth.net> Message-ID: Ken, try some of these links: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&oe=ISO-8859-1&q=%22gas+discharge+display%22+driver g. On Thu, 14 Mar 2002, Ken Trager wrote: > Anyone out there know if the Gas Discharge display are like normal seven > segment LED's. > > I got a radio panel and it has Gas Discharge display's and I would like > to know if > you can light them up like LED's. Just put 3 to 5 volts to thwm and they > light - or > how do I do that? > > Thanks > > Ken Trager > kenamt@bellsouth.net > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > > -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Fri Mar 15 01:40:35 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Derek Higgs) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 20:40:35 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] eBay: 727 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020314203946.02783320@mail> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1712916909 From simpits-tech@simpits.org Fri Mar 15 01:43:47 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Scott A. Evans) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 17:43:47 -0800 Subject: [simpits-tech] Re: Question about Gas Discharge Displays Message-ID: <000201c1cbc2$df7a6940$0201a8c0@Rocket> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C1CB7F.D1572940 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gas Discharge Displays typically need around 70 VDC to light them. The ones I'm familiar with are filled with neon. Scott ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C1CB7F.D1572940 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Gas Discharge Displays typically need around 70 VDC = to light them. The ones I’m familiar with are filled with = neon.

 

Scott

------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C1CB7F.D1572940-- From simpits-tech@simpits.org Fri Mar 15 05:05:04 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Loren P. Clay) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 23:05:04 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] More HUD stuff Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C1CBAC.AE135300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anybody checked this site out ? http://www.keo.com/hud.htm They have some nice looking HUDS but the price is probably waaayyyy out there lpclay ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C1CBAC.AE135300 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Anybody=20 checked this site out ?  http://www.keo.com/hud.htm  =
They have=20 some nice looking HUDS but the price is probably waaayyyy out=20 there
 
lpclay
------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C1CBAC.AE135300-- From simpits-tech@simpits.org Fri Mar 15 13:11:22 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Ken Trager) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 08:11:22 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Question about Gas Discharge Displays References: Message-ID: <3C91F2FA.A7C45104@clt.bellsouth.net> --------------80DCD0EAB18FB74A98E7791D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Gene It looks like the chip inside of the control head needs 80 to 125 VDC applied to it. Ken Trager > Ken, try some of these links: > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&oe=ISO-8859-1&q=%22gas+discharge+display%22+driver > > g. --------------80DCD0EAB18FB74A98E7791D Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Gene

It looks like the chip inside of the control head needs 80 to 125 VDC applied to it.

Ken Trager

Ken, try some of these links:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&oe=ISO-8859-1&q=%22gas+discharge+display%22+driver

g.

--------------80DCD0EAB18FB74A98E7791D-- From simpits-tech@simpits.org Fri Mar 15 16:15:59 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 08:15:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Question about Gas Discharge Displays In-Reply-To: <3C91F2FA.A7C45104@clt.bellsouth.net> Message-ID: > Thanks Gene > > It looks like the chip inside of the control head needs 80 to 125 VDC > applied to it. Your best bet in the long run might be to replace them with amber 7 segment displays. The primary reason for the GDD hardware is daylight-readability, so if it's going into a si, you really don't need to worry about it. :) g. -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sat Mar 16 04:35:10 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (netnurd) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 23:35:10 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Simpits Tech Problem Message-ID: <000801c1cca3$f7188780$46a3d943@firestorm> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1CC7A.0C6C8700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gene everytime I bring up the list "sorted by date" the last two = messages are always the same "Paging Mr Rod Dale" and a "Heads up tracking". Chuck ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1CC7A.0C6C8700 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Gene everytime I bring up the list = "sorted by date"=20 the last two messages are always the same "Paging Mr Rod = Dale"
and a "Heads up tracking".
Chuck
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1CC7A.0C6C8700-- From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sat Mar 16 06:31:25 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 22:31:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Test Message-ID: (ignore) -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sat Mar 16 05:50:22 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Katy Pluta) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 22:50:22 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] Test In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002901c1ccae$8fb73950$6501a8c0@inet> (ignore) No chance... :-) Best Katy From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sat Mar 16 07:57:10 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 23:57:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Test In-Reply-To: <002901c1ccae$8fb73950$6501a8c0@inet> Message-ID: Figures. :) g. On Fri, 15 Mar 2002, Katy Pluta wrote: > (ignore) > > No chance... :-) > > > Best > Katy > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sat Mar 16 17:00:22 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Tom Colello) Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 11:00:22 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Ditto Netnurd Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20020316110022.00795570@intersurf.com> Gene, I have the same problem with the archives. Over the last several days the last message when sorted by date is Paging Mr Dale. Now today there are 2 messages from you entitled test and one from Katy. What's going on? Is anybody posting or is there a glitch somewhere? Thanks, Tom From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sat Mar 16 22:42:05 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (David Lawley) Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 17:42:05 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] USB Servo controllers In-Reply-To: <000001c1ca2b$86ed7d00$02010a0a@vlogic> Message-ID: <000001c1cd3b$cc1fb880$02010a0a@vlogic> Ok, I have one of these on the way. They are $110 ($50 controller only) for a quad unit that comes with 4 servos. During email between myself and the developer I had written that I wanted to us these to drive gauges. He said it would send out a newer version of the software that allows 0.1 degree resolution. This sounds much better than what the SSC unit allows at .36 @ 90 and .72 @ 180 degrees of motion plus its USB driven. If this sound interesting to any of you I'll ask if I can post my contact's email for more information. -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org] On Behalf Of David Lawley Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 8:08 PM To: simpits-tech@simpits.org Subject: [simpits-tech] USB Servo controllers Anyone know about this device? www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/grouplab/developers/USBPhidgets/GlabServo.html From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sun Mar 17 02:58:06 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Steve Wilson) Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 21:58:06 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] USB Servo controllers References: <000001c1cd3b$cc1fb880$02010a0a@vlogic> Message-ID: <000401c1cd5f$9237c440$6401a8c0@ne.client2.attbi.com> Hell yeah! A tenth of a degree of resolution sounds great. But what about that 90 - 180 limit? Don't we want servos that will revolve round and round to support things like an altimeter? Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lawley" To: Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 5:42 PM Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] USB Servo controllers > Ok, I have one of these on the way. They are $110 ($50 controller only) > for a quad unit that comes with 4 servos. During email between myself > and the developer I had written that I wanted to us these to drive > gauges. He said it would send out a newer version of the software that > allows 0.1 degree resolution. This sounds much better than what the SSC > unit allows at .36 @ 90 and .72 @ 180 degrees of motion plus its USB > driven. > > If this sound interesting to any of you I'll ask if I can post my > contact's email for more information. > > -----Original Message----- > From: simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org > [mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org] On Behalf Of David Lawley > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 8:08 PM > To: simpits-tech@simpits.org > Subject: [simpits-tech] USB Servo controllers > > Anyone know about this device? > > www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/grouplab/developers/USBPhidgets/GlabServo.html > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sun Mar 17 09:16:39 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (paul needham) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 09:16:39 +0000 Subject: [simpits-tech] net working pc's Message-ID:
Hi all
 
As usual being driven by poverty and ignorance leads to some pretty odd solutions to problems.
Heres my problem
I have a PC I will call master and 2 PC's slave 1 and slave 2
Master and slave 1 are networked with some old ISA cards using Coax t connectors and terminators , this works just ! ( wrong coax cable type  but it works )
Slave 2 that I want on this network has the new 'telephone style ' socket for it's network connector.
How can they be connected ? I do have a PCI network card this this telephone style connector iF I put that in the master and use a crossed cable will all the pc's appear on the same network ?
Yes I know a hub and 2 PCI new style cards and cables would be easier but I have to work with what I have at present. 
regards paul

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From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sun Mar 17 12:26:45 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (David Lawley) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 07:26:45 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] USB Servo controllers In-Reply-To: <000401c1cd5f$9237c440$6401a8c0@ne.client2.attbi.com> Message-ID: <000101c1cdaf$00a838c0$02010a0a@vlogic> Well Steve here is your chance. Since I'm a newbie at all this I don't feel really qualified to answer Chester's last set of questions. I need to see if I can get Chester to subscribe to this list :) ------------------8<---------------- Question - I can build an controller which supports 8 servos. Is there use for such a beast in your domain? Also - I'm designing the next version already, which provides speed/acceleration control in hardware. It should provide the ability to rotate a servo at full speed, or as slow as 0.5 degrees per second. Again, any use in your domain? And - what other types of hardware modules do you use for these simulators. I've already got enquiries (thank you very much) about boards supporting large amounts of I/O. What about LCD panels running over USB? Analog input? What outputs on a simulator would require large currents? Basically, I'm trying to figure out what are the best modules to offer as Phidgets. Chester fitchett [fitchett@cpsc.ucalgary.ca] ---------------------------8<--------------------- -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org] On Behalf Of Steve Wilson Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 9:58 PM To: simpits-tech@simpits.org Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] USB Servo controllers Hell yeah! A tenth of a degree of resolution sounds great. But what about that 90 - 180 limit? Don't we want servos that will revolve round and round to support things like an altimeter? Steve From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sun Mar 17 15:09:44 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Marv De Beque) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 10:09:44 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] USB Servo controllers, Synchros, & Steppers - Course 101 In-Reply-To: <000401c1cd5f$9237c440$6401a8c0@ne.client2.attbi.com> Message-ID: <03AC0ACB-39B9-11D6-80B8-000502DE6569@speakeasy.net> Steve, The best solution for gizmos like that would be to use either a synchro or a stepper motor. Servos can't rotate continuously (normally). Steppers are nice, but you still need to have a mechanism to recognize home position and then count from there. They are also great for jobs that require torque like HSI and ADI. Their down fall is resolution. Each step has a finite amount of movement and the result can look jerky if the resolution between steps is not very fine. You can accomplish this with gears to reduce the movement between steps. Synchros are really cool. I have been learning about them (haven't forgot you, Gene) There is a reason why they are used in real instruments and that is because they are VERY precise! However, they don't have much torque, so they can't drive large amounts of mass like a stepper can. A synchro is essentially a compass needle with two electromagnets located at the perimeter of the needle, one at the North pole and one at the East. By varying the magnitude and the polarity of the current induced in the two electromagnets, you can make the needle point anywhere on the dial! The two electromagnets are fed voltages that are multiplied by the sine and the cosine of the desired angle which you want the needle to point. If you feed the two electromagnets AC signals that are 90 degrees out of phase the needle will spin, completing one revolution for each cycle of AC. You can also reverse the process and induce two AC signals with a synchro and use it as a means to indicate the rotational position of an object. Another issue for the synchro is the interface. There are chips made to do this, but they cost about $100. A hobbiest can roll their own. You simply need two digital to analog converters and a small microcontroller. The micro would contain a sine lookup table and could translate a digital value (say for instance, fuel quantity) to the two digital equivalents which are then output to the two digital to analog converters that feed the synchro. You need a good set of digital to analog converters with enough resolution and speed or it will look like a stepper motor when it moves. You can add a small capacitor to the outputs to take some of the edge off of the movement. Servos are great for gauges that don't require continious revolution in any one direction. You can gear a servo to go beyond the 180 degree limit with external gears or you can modify them to go up to about 270 degrees. I have heard of some people modifying them to do continuous revolution, but I don't think they work very well. Servos require a square wave input to produce movement. The degree of rotation is a function of the square wave's duty cycle (the ratio of time the square wave is at full voltage versus the time it is at zero volts). There are limits to the frequency that the signal operates. A microcontroller is a great way to generate the square wave. You can do it by bit banging or some micros have a PWM port (pulse width modulated) to create the square wave. Unfortunately, since you are using a micro to generate the signal, there is a granularity to the revolution of the shaft. Chester cites a 0.1 degree resolution. He probably does this with a fairly fast mico which will make the movement acceptable to the eye. I look forward to see more of Chester's work! Marv On Saturday, March 16, 2002, at 09:58 PM, Steve Wilson wrote: > Hell yeah! A tenth of a degree of resolution sounds great. But what > about > that 90 - 180 limit? Don't we want servos that will revolve round and > round > to support things like an altimeter? > > Steve > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Lawley" > To: > Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 5:42 PM > Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] USB Servo controllers > > >> Ok, I have one of these on the way. They are $110 ($50 controller >> only) >> for a quad unit that comes with 4 servos. During email between myself >> and the developer I had written that I wanted to us these to drive >> gauges. He said it would send out a newer version of the software that >> allows 0.1 degree resolution. This sounds much better than what the >> SSC >> unit allows at .36 @ 90 and .72 @ 180 degrees of motion plus its USB >> driven. >> >> If this sound interesting to any of you I'll ask if I can post my >> contact's email for more information. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org >> [mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org] On Behalf Of David Lawley >> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 8:08 PM >> To: simpits-tech@simpits.org >> Subject: [simpits-tech] USB Servo controllers >> >> Anyone know about this device? >> >> www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/grouplab/developers/USBPhidgets/GlabServo.html >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Simpits-tech mailing list >> Simpits-tech@simpits.org >> http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >> To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sun Mar 17 15:14:28 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Marv De Beque) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 10:14:28 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] net working pc's In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Paule, you can try a second network card in the master PC, but it may have conflict issues. You may find you can get it working, but you may also find it too frustrating to get it working. I would save my pennies (or start taking donations) and find more modern solutions at your neighborhood computer show. Look on the net for times and places. Or, locate a Ham Fest. Look up Amateur Radio on the net and track down where the next one is. Either place is a great place to find bargains. Marv On Sunday, March 17, 2002, at 04:16 AM, paul needham wrote: > Hi all >   > As usual being driven by poverty and ignorance leads to some pretty odd > solutions to problems. > Heres my problem > I have a PC I will call master and 2 PC's slave 1 and slave 2 > Master and slave 1 are networked with some old ISA cards using Coax t > connectors and terminators , this works just ! ( wrong coax cable type  > but it works ) > Slave 2 that I want on this network has the new 'telephone style ' > socket for it's network connector. > How can they be connected ? I do have a PCI network card this this > telephone style connector iF I put that in the master and use a crossed > cable will all the pc's appear on the same network ? > Yes I know a hub and 2 PCI new style cards and cables would be easier > but I have to work with what I have at present.  > regards paul > > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: Click Here From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sun Mar 17 22:01:50 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (falconwraith) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 17:01:50 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] net working pc's References: Message-ID: <001f01c1cdff$58785440$6401a8c0@acidwkstatn> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C1CDD5.6E93C270 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Paul, The issue you have is quite unique. Here is a couple of solutions.=20 1. The master PC could have an Operating System (OS) of Win 2000. = Which supports two Network interface cards (NICs). 2. Have a hub that supports both Coax and Twisted pair (phone like = cable). 3. Save your pennies for a second twisted pair NIC and purchase a = four port hub or switch. I would reccomend the third choice as the speed and expandability is = greater than previous listed. Matt H. )Wraith( ----- Original Message -----=20 From: paul needham=20 To: simpits-tech@simpits.org=20 Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 4:16 AM Subject: [simpits-tech] net working pc's Hi all As usual being driven by poverty and ignorance leads to some pretty = odd solutions to problems. Heres my problem=20 I have a PC I will call master and 2 PC's slave 1 and slave 2 Master and slave 1 are networked with some old ISA cards using Coax t = connectors and terminators , this works just ! ( wrong coax cable type = but it works ) Slave 2 that I want on this network has the new 'telephone style ' = socket for it's network connector. How can they be connected ? I do have a PCI network card this this = telephone style connector iF I put that in the master and use a crossed = cable will all the pc's appear on the same network ? Yes I know a hub and 2 PCI new style cards and cables would be easier = but I have to work with what I have at present.=20 regards paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: Click Here _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing = list Simpits-tech@simpits.org = http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, = please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C1CDD5.6E93C270 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Paul,
    The issue you have = is quite=20 unique. Here is a couple of solutions.
    1. The master PC = could have an=20 Operating System (OS) of Win 2000. Which supports two Network interface = cards=20 (NICs).
    2. Have a hub that = supports both=20 Coax and Twisted pair (phone like cable).
    3. Save your pennies = for a=20 second twisted pair NIC and purchase a four port hub or = switch.
 
    I would reccomend = the third=20 choice as the speed and expandability is greater than previous=20 listed.
 
Matt H.
)Wraith(
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 paul needham
Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 = 4:16=20 AM
Subject: [simpits-tech] net = working=20 pc's

Hi all
 
As usual being driven by poverty and ignorance leads to some = pretty odd=20 solutions to problems.
Heres my problem
I have a PC I will call master and 2 PC's slave 1 and slave = 2
Master and slave 1 are networked with some old ISA cards using = Coax t=20 connectors and terminators , this works just ! ( wrong coax cable = type =20 but it works )
Slave 2 that I want on this network has the new 'telephone style = ' socket=20 for it's network connector.
How can they be connected ? I do have a PCI network card this = this=20 telephone style connector iF I put that in the master and use a = crossed cable=20 will all the pc's appear on the same network ?
Yes I know a hub and 2 PCI new style cards and cables would be = easier but=20 I have to work with what I have at present. 
regards paul

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_______________________________________________ = Simpits-tech=20 mailing list Simpits-tech@simpits.org=20 http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, = please=20 see the instructions at the bottom of the above page.=20 Thanks! ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C1CDD5.6E93C270-- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From simpits-tech@simpits.org Mon Mar 18 02:20:58 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Gene Buckle) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 18:20:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] mail problems... Message-ID: IT looks like my doofus ISP had an open relay and they managed to get blackholed. Any email coming from my normal address (geneb@deltasoft.com) is getting reflected back at me because of this. I'm going to be sporadically sending mail until I'm done bitch-slapping those dorks that left this hole open. :) g. -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Mon Mar 18 08:29:03 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Erwin Neyt) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 09:29:03 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] net working pc's Message-ID: <94F5FC70101ED311A57A00C095FAD9B7BE9A59@URANUS> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1CE56.F64A2C50 Content-Type: text/plain And if you use two NIC's in a PC, and both side must be able to communicate, you must enable routing (slow) These days there are low-cost switches available, I recomend this. I use a 3Com OfficeConnect 10/100Mb switch and it works great (fast) Erwin. -----Original Message----- From: falconwraith [mailto:falconwraith@yahoo.com] Sent: zondag 17 maart 2002 23:02 To: simpits-tech@simpits.org Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] net working pc's Paul, The issue you have is quite unique. Here is a couple of solutions. 1. The master PC could have an Operating System (OS) of Win 2000. Which supports two Network interface cards (NICs). 2. Have a hub that supports both Coax and Twisted pair (phone like cable). 3. Save your pennies for a second twisted pair NIC and purchase a four port hub or switch. I would reccomend the third choice as the speed and expandability is greater than previous listed. Matt H. )Wraith( ----- Original Message ----- From: paul needham To: simpits-tech@simpits.org Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 4:16 AM Subject: [simpits-tech] net working pc's Hi all As usual being driven by poverty and ignorance leads to some pretty odd solutions to problems. Heres my problem I have a PC I will call master and 2 PC's slave 1 and slave 2 Master and slave 1 are networked with some old ISA cards using Coax t connectors and terminators , this works just ! ( wrong coax cable type but it works ) Slave 2 that I want on this network has the new 'telephone style ' socket for it's network connector. How can they be connected ? I do have a PCI network card this this telephone style connector iF I put that in the master and use a crossed cable will all the pc's appear on the same network ? Yes I know a hub and 2 PCI new style cards and cables would be easier but I have to work with what I have at present. regards paul _____ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: Click Here _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech@simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1CE56.F64A2C50 Content-Type: text/html Message
And if you use two NIC's in a PC, and both side must be able to communicate, you must enable routing (slow)
 
These days there are low-cost switches available, I recomend this. I use a 3Com OfficeConnect 10/100Mb switch and it works great (fast)
 
Erwin.
-----Original Message-----
From: falconwraith [mailto:falconwraith@yahoo.com]
Sent: zondag 17 maart 2002 23:02
To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] net working pc's

Paul,
    The issue you have is quite unique. Here is a couple of solutions.
    1. The master PC could have an Operating System (OS) of Win 2000. Which supports two Network interface cards (NICs).
    2. Have a hub that supports both Coax and Twisted pair (phone like cable).
    3. Save your pennies for a second twisted pair NIC and purchase a four port hub or switch.
 
    I would reccomend the third choice as the speed and expandability is greater than previous listed.
 
Matt H.
)Wraith(
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 4:16 AM
Subject: [simpits-tech] net working pc's

Hi all
 
As usual being driven by poverty and ignorance leads to some pretty odd solutions to problems.
Heres my problem
I have a PC I will call master and 2 PC's slave 1 and slave 2
Master and slave 1 are networked with some old ISA cards using Coax t connectors and terminators , this works just ! ( wrong coax cable type  but it works )
Slave 2 that I want on this network has the new 'telephone style ' socket for it's network connector.
How can they be connected ? I do have a PCI network card this this telephone style connector iF I put that in the master and use a crossed cable will all the pc's appear on the same network ?
Yes I know a hub and 2 PCI new style cards and cables would be easier but I have to work with what I have at present. 
regards paul

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C1CE56.F64A2C50-- From simpits-tech@simpits.org Mon Mar 18 22:24:05 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 14:24:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] eBay: 727 In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020314203946.02783320@mail> Message-ID: That's just a damn crime. I hope a simpits member gets that poor thing. g. On Thu, 14 Mar 2002, Derek Higgs wrote: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1712916909 > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Mon Mar 18 21:39:37 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Ken Trager) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 16:39:37 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] eBay: 727 References: Message-ID: <3C965E99.62486B66@clt.bellsouth.net> --------------D4FF725A66BFC8C467DD3216 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thats a damm crime it is located in CA and Iam sitting here in NC! Ken Trager Gene Buckle wrote: > That's just a damn crime. I hope a simpits member gets that poor thing. > > g. > > On Thu, 14 Mar 2002, Derek Higgs wrote: > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1712916909 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Simpits-tech mailing list > > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > > > > -- > "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! --------------D4FF725A66BFC8C467DD3216 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thats a damm crime it is located in CA and Iam sitting here in NC!

Ken Trager

Gene Buckle wrote:

That's just a damn crime.  I hope a simpits member gets that poor thing.

g.

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--------------D4FF725A66BFC8C467DD3216-- From simpits-tech@simpits.org Tue Mar 19 04:04:04 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (simpits-tech@simpits.org) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 23:04:04 EST Subject: [simpits-tech] eBay: 727 Message-ID: <5b.24b51458.29c812b4@aol.com> --part1_5b.24b51458.29c812b4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, I agree its a shame what a company or persons will do to a cockpit once it has played out its service. Like vultures on a fresh kill the scrapers and salvagers strip it down to a worthless carcass. Jrod --part1_5b.24b51458.29c812b4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, I agree its a shame what a company or persons will do to a cockpit once it has played out its service. Like vultures on a fresh kill the scrapers and salvagers strip it down to a worthless carcass.

Jrod --part1_5b.24b51458.29c812b4_boundary-- From simpits-tech@simpits.org Tue Mar 19 08:15:11 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Francois Mavel) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 08:15:11 +0000 Subject: [simpits-tech] RE: PC's network Message-ID: Hi Guys, with the same problem, I found out that buying a hub with both coax and RJ sockets was the cheapest solution, I found mine (with 8 RJ sockeets and 1 coax) for 38€ ( roughly 40 US $). Hope it will help Francois PS: You may try a trick with some network card having both type of connection, try to connect both socket, I know someone who succeded in doing that... _________________________________________________________________ Téléchargez MSN Explorer gratuitement à l'adresse http://explorer.msn.fr/intl.asp. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Tue Mar 19 22:51:26 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Davide) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 23:51:26 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] For Gene Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C1CFA0.FB9A6080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Surfing around the net.... i found: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D1083550905 Who might be interested in ? Cheers All !=20 Davide ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C1CFA0.FB9A6080 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Surfing around the net.... i = found:
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D1083550905
 
Who might be interested in = ?
 
 
Cheers All !
 

Davide
 
------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C1CFA0.FB9A6080-- From simpits-tech@simpits.org Wed Mar 20 12:03:25 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Craig Wylie) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 20:03:25 +0800 Subject: [simpits-tech] Cd manuals and CBT References: Message-ID: <002101c1d007$43045370$5418c3d2@user5d5ssa7obr> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_subcaa3pECqqxCqcdOV0ow) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Just wondering if anyone has any CD's of aircraft manuals or CBT (computer based training) for them. Would like to see what is around. If you want, you can get me personally at wcraig@tm.net.my Cheers Craig --Boundary_(ID_subcaa3pECqqxCqcdOV0ow) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Just wondering if anyone has any CD's of aircraft manuals or CBT (computer based training) for them.
 
Would like to see what is around.
 
If you want, you can get me personally at
 
Cheers
Craig
--Boundary_(ID_subcaa3pECqqxCqcdOV0ow)-- From simpits-tech@simpits.org Wed Mar 20 13:13:49 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Douglas G Lewis) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 08:13:49 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] oxygen bottle Message-ID: <20020320.081350.-1643567.5.dglewis9@juno.com> Can anyone please tell me the approximate dimensions of the ACES II oxygen bottle. Thanks ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Wed Mar 20 16:06:46 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Gene Buckle) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 08:06:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] For Gene In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Well skipping the huge # of errors there are in the cockpit, it can be purchased from online toy stores for less than $150. :) g. On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Davide wrote: > Surfing around the net.... i found: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1083550905 > > Who might be interested in ? > > > Cheers All ! > > > Davide > > -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Wed Mar 20 15:25:33 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Alan D. Mazurka) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:25:33 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] For Gene In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020320102451.00a27120@mail.verizon.net> --=====================_614075==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed hi, too bad that _i'm_ not 1/6 scale..... - adm - At 08:06 AM 3/20/02 -0800, you wrote: >Well skipping the huge # of errors there are in the cockpit, it can be >purchased from online toy stores for less than $150. :) > >g. ---------- Alan D. Mazurka Webspace Design & Implementation adm.design@verizon.net --=====================_614075==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" hi,

too bad that _i'm_ not 1/6 scale.....

 - adm -

At 08:06 AM 3/20/02 -0800, you wrote:

Well skipping the huge # of errors there are in the cockpit, it can be
purchased from online toy stores for less than $150. :)

g.


Alan D. Mazurka                    Webspace Design & Implementation
adm.design@verizon.net    
--=====================_614075==_.ALT-- From simpits-tech@simpits.org Wed Mar 20 15:57:16 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Brian Sikkema) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 15:57:16 Subject: [simpits-tech] For Gene Message-ID: Now THOSE are words of wisdom ;) Brian ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Alan D. Mazurka" Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org To: simpits-tech@simpits.org CC: adm.design@verizon.net Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] For Gene Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:25:33 -0500 hi, too bad that _i'm_ not 1/6 scale..... - adm - At 08:06 AM 3/20/02 -0800, you wrote: >Well skipping the huge # of errors there are in the cockpit, it can be >purchased from online toy stores for less than $150. :) > >g. ---------- Alan D. Mazurka Webspace Design & Implementation adm.design@verizon.net _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From simpits-tech@simpits.org Thu Mar 21 04:02:39 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (simpits-tech@simpits.org) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 23:02:39 EST Subject: [simpits-tech] HOTAS Message-ID: <3f.87521d5.29cab55f@aol.com> Hello, I am new to the list -- building an F-16 pit. question: Rather than waiting for the Cougar, has anyone tried the radioshack gameport to USB converter on the F16 TQS combo? I can get basic functions to work..... Does anyone know how to get the buttons to work? John From simpits-tech@simpits.org Thu Mar 21 06:20:19 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Ido Dekkers) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 08:20:19 +0200 Subject: [simpits-tech] HOTAS Message-ID: if you have the digital upgrade there is nothing you can do (i can't emphasize enough how good this upgrade is ). if you don't have the upgrade - just use the gameport to USB converter and connect the KB connector as you did, or maybe the is a KB-->USB converter. Ido Inventmd Sent by: To: simpits-tech@simpits.org simpits-tech-admin@ cc: simpits.org Subject: [simpits-tech] HOTAS 03/21/2002 06:02 AM Please respond to simpits-tech Hello, I am new to the list -- building an F-16 pit. question: Rather than waiting for the Cougar, has anyone tried the radioshack gameport to USB converter on the F16 TQS combo? I can get basic functions to work..... Does anyone know how to get the buttons to work? John _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech@simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From simpits-tech@simpits.org Thu Mar 21 16:28:18 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (eric wh) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 08:28:18 -0800 Subject: [simpits-tech] usb servo Message-ID:
i have lost the web address for usb servos does anybody have it
also does anybody have a good site for guages
 

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From simpits-tech@simpits.org Thu Mar 21 16:35:16 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (fitchett) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 09:35:16 -0700 (MST) Subject: [simpits-tech] usb servo In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I do design/manufacture of usb servos. The site is www.phidgets.com, you can buy the servo controllers directly from me, or from www.hvwtech.com. HVWTech just took delivery of their first units, so they may not have them on the website yet. Chester > i have lost the web address for usb servos does anybody have it > also does anybody have a good site for guages >   > > ________________________________________________________________________________ > Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here > _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, > please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > From simpits-tech@simpits.org Thu Mar 21 17:36:49 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Martin Ingold) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 18:36:49 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] Webpage update Message-ID: <3C9A1A31.89BB7C10@f16cockpit.net> Hi, Just wanted to let you know that I updated my homepage. For a list of updated things, got to the "updated" section. http://www.f16cockpit.net As always, feedback is welcome. Regards, Martin From simpits-tech@simpits.org Thu Mar 21 20:21:38 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Justin Messenger) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 12:21:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] FlyII Message-ID: <20020321202138.37066.qmail@web10008.mail.yahoo.com> I finally started playing with my copy of FlyII. Here are some of my observations between it and the other sim I have been flying lately, FS2000. Pros... much nicer looking textures than FS. The flight modeling feels more realistic to me, especially in a crosswind on landing. The GPS guage in the Cessna is fantastic, a million times more authentic than the one in FS2k. Cons... no terrain detail. I can fly VFR with 2K using real charts, that's not possible with FlyII. The Instrument panel annoys me, I don't like moving the screen around with the mouse to see things. The panels do look and function very realisticaly though. The lack of documentation on the CD is maddening. I installed it on a machine that's not online, so I couldn't read the detailed manual. That means I still don't know how to use the airport scenery function, you're supposed to be able to easily add stuff to the scenery and that is a feature that I want to try out. The last thing is that the ATC doesn't work correctly, Ground would never let me taxi to the runway, after an hour of asking I gave up. Other tries were no better. That means yet another download to get the patch I need for my machine that's never been online. AS far as use with a cockpit, I think it would be a good platform if some developers would give it a chance. The SDK is already on the CD, if only I had the skills so take advantage of it. If Magenta and wideview were adapted to FlyII I think it would be a great piece of software for some pits. Last saterday My CAP wing flew search and rescue for a small plane which was found with the pilot and passenger dead, southwest of Memphis. I was a crew member and we searched a grid and started on a second before another CAP plane found the missing craft. Once home I was able to re-fly the mission on the computer using GPS to fly the grids. It's amazing how far simulation has come! Justin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/ From simpits-tech@simpits.org Thu Mar 21 20:58:21 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Jim K.) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 13:58:21 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] Re: to JUSTIN In-Reply-To: <200203212001.MAA01489@uridium.deltasoft.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020321135416.00b4da30@mail.sisna.com> >I finally started playing with my copy of FlyII. Here >are some of my observations between it and the other >sim I have been flying lately, FS2000. Justin, I was a beta tester on Fly2. It was released much earlier than Terminal Reality really wanted. They were basically forced to release it by their publisher who paid for its development. It's a shame since it could have been a really great sim. I think the number one problem with it is the lack of detailed and "pretty" scenery. What is does have is great cockpits and great flight modeling. However, IMHO it looks terrible. :-) And for me the look of a game is VERY important. Jim From simpits-tech@simpits.org Thu Mar 21 22:55:33 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 14:55:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] FlyII In-Reply-To: <20020321202138.37066.qmail@web10008.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, Justin Messenger wrote: > I finally started playing with my copy of FlyII. Here > are some of my observations between it and the other > sim I have been flying lately, FS2000. > Justin, did you download the current patches? I was a beta tester (due to machine problems, not much testing happened) for Fly! II and it was going very well until the publisher demanded that they ship on a specific date. It didn't matter to those pointy-haired assholes that the documentation hadn't been finished yet, the box was barely done and there needed to be at _least_ another month of testing. Fly! II was shoved out the door despite the best efforts of TRI and due to the bugs and lack of docs it died a quiet death. There are now patches available to fix the problems as well as docs in PDF format for download. g. -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Fri Mar 22 02:37:26 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Brian Sikkema) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 02:37:26 Subject: [simpits-tech] Webpage update Message-ID: Those are some nice catches, Martin! Some of that stuff looks brand new! What I wouldnt give for your "little black book" ;) Brian ----Original Message Follows---- From: Martin Ingold Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: [simpits-tech] Webpage update Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 18:36:49 +0100 Hi, Just wanted to let you know that I updated my homepage. For a list of updated things, got to the "updated" section. http://www.f16cockpit.net As always, feedback is welcome. Regards, Martin _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech@simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From simpits-tech@simpits.org Fri Mar 22 13:45:12 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (michael hirczy) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 14:45:12 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] repacking ACES II parachute container In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <167894334.20020322144512@gmx.net> Hi, everyone! My parachute container arrived this week :)) I remember, somebody described how to repack an opened parachute container of an ACES II seat, but can't remember who did it. is there an URL to the description anywhere?? thx michi -- greetings michi mailto:mi.hi@gmx.net From simpits-tech@simpits.org Fri Mar 22 14:44:30 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Derek Higgs) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 08:44:30 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] repacking ACES II parachute container Message-ID: <200203221444.g2MEiUS06802@www5.dixiesys.com> Hey Michi- That is part of the FAQ now, which has been somewhat put back in my priorities because of some real life stuff going on. I'll post the section tonght when I get back home. Derek > Hi, everyone! > > My parachute container arrived this week :)) > > I remember, somebody described how to repack an opened parachute > container of an ACES II seat, but can't remember who did it. > > is there an URL to the description anywhere?? > > thx > michi From simpits-tech@simpits.org Fri Mar 22 15:14:19 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Lee, David) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 10:14:19 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Weak keyboard inputs Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1D1B4.3D1131A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I just bought a new system which is great except the keyboard input seems to weak to daisychain my Suncomm system and my two Masterpilots. In fact, it won't recognize anything but the keyboard. Anyone know of a way around this. I changed to a USB keyboard thinking that would free up some resources but it didn't. Is it possible to get keyboard/USB converters that I could plug all the other things into? Thanks! David Lee ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1D1B4.3D1131A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
I just bought a new system which is great except the keyboard input seems to weak to daisychain my Suncomm system and my two Masterpilots. In fact, it won't recognize anything but the keyboard. Anyone know of a way around this. I changed to a USB keyboard thinking that would free up some resources but it didn't. Is it possible to get keyboard/USB converters that I could plug all the other things into? Thanks!
David Lee
 
------_=_NextPart_001_01C1D1B4.3D1131A0-- From simpits-tech@simpits.org Fri Mar 22 15:36:11 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Erwin Neyt) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 16:36:11 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] Weak keyboard inputs Message-ID: <94F5FC70101ED311A57A00C095FAD9B7010C7BE2@URANUS> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1D1B7.4B588F80 Content-Type: text/plain Use a hub if you don't require long cable connections. There are active cables available, they boost the USB signal so you can go upto 6m, but they are more expensive than a hub. Erwin. -----Original Message----- From: Lee, David [mailto:del2@cornell.edu] Sent: vrijdag 22 maart 2002 16:14 To: 'simpits-tech@simpits.org' Subject: [simpits-tech] Weak keyboard inputs I just bought a new system which is great except the keyboard input seems to weak to daisychain my Suncomm system and my two Masterpilots. In fact, it won't recognize anything but the keyboard. Anyone know of a way around this. I changed to a USB keyboard thinking that would free up some resources but it didn't. Is it possible to get keyboard/USB converters that I could plug all the other things into? Thanks! David Lee ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1D1B7.4B588F80 Content-Type: text/html Message
Use a hub if you don't require long cable connections. There are active cables available, they boost the USB signal so you can go upto 6m, but they are more expensive than a hub.
 
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I just bought a new system which is great except the keyboard input seems to weak to daisychain my Suncomm system and my two Masterpilots. In fact, it won't recognize anything but the keyboard. Anyone know of a way around this. I changed to a USB keyboard thinking that would free up some resources but it didn't. Is it possible to get keyboard/USB converters that I could plug all the other things into? Thanks!
David Lee
 
------_=_NextPart_001_01C1D1B7.4B588F80-- From simpits-tech@simpits.org Fri Mar 22 18:58:49 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 10:58:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Weak keyboard inputs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: David, I don't think your problem is "Weak" keyboard, I think that the 2 MPs and the Suncom gear is drawing too much power. You might want to build a 5VDC supply and seperately power those devices. g. On Fri, 22 Mar 2002, Lee, David wrote: > I just bought a new system which is great except the keyboard input seems to > weak to daisychain my Suncomm system and my two Masterpilots. In fact, it > won't recognize anything but the keyboard. Anyone know of a way around this. > I changed to a USB keyboard thinking that would free up some resources but > it didn't. Is it possible to get keyboard/USB converters that I could plug > all the other things into? Thanks! > David Lee > > -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Fri Mar 22 18:46:48 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Roy Coates) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 18:46:48 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Weak keyboard inputs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 22 Mar 2002, Gene Buckle wrote: > David, I don't think your problem is "Weak" keyboard, I think that the 2 > MPs and the Suncom gear is drawing too much power. You might want to > build a 5VDC supply and seperately power those devices. > For once, Jean is right... the power levels drop pretty quickly out of the keyboard port. Providing your own power will help a LOT. Roy. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Fri Mar 22 19:11:14 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 11:11:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Weak keyboard inputs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > > David, I don't think your problem is "Weak" keyboard, I think that the 2 > > MPs and the Suncom gear is drawing too much power. You might want to > > build a 5VDC supply and seperately power those devices. > > > > For once, Jean is right... the power levels drop pretty quickly out of the > keyboard port. Providing your own power will help a LOT. > Thanks Roi! g. -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Fri Mar 22 19:26:28 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Roy Coates) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 19:26:28 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Weak keyboard inputs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 22 Mar 2002, Gene Buckle wrote: > > For once, Jean is right... the power levels drop pretty quickly out of the > > keyboard port. Providing your own power will help a LOT. > > > > Thanks Roi! > Attachment-type: grin/large - press 'V' to view. Have a good weekend all, I know I will.. loadsa new powertools on their way to me - heaven! Roy. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Fri Mar 22 21:31:21 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (michael hirczy) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 22:31:21 +0100 Subject: Re[2]: [simpits-tech] repacking ACES II parachute container In-Reply-To: <200203221444.g2MEiUS06802@www5.dixiesys.com> References: <200203221444.g2MEiUS06802@www5.dixiesys.com> Message-ID: <9427200299.20020322223121@gmx.net> Hello Derek, Friday, March 22, 2002, 3:44:30 PM, you wrote: DH> Hey Michi- DH> That is part of the FAQ now, which has been somewhat put back in my DH> priorities because of some real life stuff going on. I'll post the DH> section tonght when I get back home. DH> Derek thx derek. is this at simpits.org?? or at your personal site? greetings michi mailto:mi.hi@gmx.net From simpits-tech@simpits.org Fri Mar 22 22:28:42 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Davide) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 23:28:42 +0100 Subject: R: [simpits-tech] Webpage update References: Message-ID: Wow Martin....... what a nice collection ! How much for a couple of contact of your "little black book"...... eh eh eh Brian was right ! Maybe one day we'll see your "Full Viper" taking off from your garden ! Waiting next news ! Davide ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Sikkema To: Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 2:37 AM Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Webpage update > Those are some nice catches, Martin! Some of that stuff looks brand new! > What I wouldnt give for your "little black book" ;) > > Brian > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: Martin Ingold > Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org > To: undisclosed-recipients:; > Subject: [simpits-tech] Webpage update > Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 18:36:49 +0100 > > Hi, > > Just wanted to let you know that I updated my homepage. For a list of > updated things, got to the "updated" section. > > http://www.f16cockpit.net > > As always, feedback is welcome. > Regards, > Martin > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. > Thanks! > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > From simpits-tech@simpits.org Fri Mar 22 22:45:14 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Martin Ingold) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 23:45:14 +0100 Subject: R: [simpits-tech] Webpage update References: Message-ID: <3C9BB3F9.195F072D@f16cockpit.net> Hehehehe. Just wait for the next update.... ;-) Martin Davide schrieb: > Wow Martin....... > what a nice collection ! > How much for a couple of contact of your "little black book"...... eh eh eh > Brian was right ! > Maybe one day we'll see your "Full Viper" taking off from your garden ! > Waiting next news ! > > Davide > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Brian Sikkema > To: > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 2:37 AM > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Webpage update > > > Those are some nice catches, Martin! Some of that stuff looks brand new! > > What I wouldnt give for your "little black book" ;) > > > > Brian > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > > From: Martin Ingold > > Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org > > To: undisclosed-recipients:; > > Subject: [simpits-tech] Webpage update > > Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 18:36:49 +0100 > > > > Hi, > > > > Just wanted to let you know that I updated my homepage. For a list of > > updated things, got to the "updated" section. > > > > http://www.f16cockpit.net > > > > As always, feedback is welcome. > > Regards, > > Martin > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Simpits-tech mailing list > > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. > > Thanks! > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Simpits-tech mailing list > > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From simpits-tech@simpits.org Fri Mar 22 22:43:30 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Derek Higgs) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 17:43:30 -0500 Subject: Re[2]: [simpits-tech] repacking ACES II parachute container In-Reply-To: <9427200299.20020322223121@gmx.net> References: <200203221444.g2MEiUS06802@www5.dixiesys.com> <200203221444.g2MEiUS06802@www5.dixiesys.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020322173954.02825c80@mail.higlet.com> --Boundary_(ID_jgdeYJT6rF6+GyM/s//Knw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On my hard drive, and backed up on CD. I haven't finished formatting it for HTML. Here's the stuff from the page: I received my parachute container on Friday. Before I sit down and go through a struggle to repack the chute, does anyone have instructions/tips on how to do this properly? There is a rectangular piece of fabric with a slotted hole. I'm guessing that this sits on top of the chute under the cover flaps. I'm also guessing that the little loop of cord in the center of the spring goes through the parachute grommet, the four cover grommets, and has something stuck through the loop to hold everything together. Does the little flat tab on one of the covers go through the cord loop? Does anyone have a softcopy of the actual packing procedure? Instructions for folding the chute? I know I could just remove the spring, but I'd like to leave everything intact if I can. I know that all of this makes no sense to someone who hasn't seen the parachute container... I'm looking for the same answer to your question. Will get delivery of my parachute container in the next two weeks. So far I haven't found anything on the internet apart from one picture of a packed chute looking down on the chute pin. Looking forward to anyone else that might come up with more info. Hi, It is not a problem and you are mostly right on your suspicions. If your container has the drone chute with it, you need to wrap that rascal up. I loosely wrapped mine around the center canvas that surrounds the spring (if memory serves) and began the compression of the spring. It helps to have a helper and a large cotter pin handy. Also, a length of thin nylon rope (string) is required. Getting Started: Place the container with the pole end on the floor. I sat in a chair to do this. Be mindful of the spring! Make sure the two elastic side straps are unhooked from the flaps. Loosely thread the nylon rope through the green nylon loop and then through each of the grommets on the four open ends of the nylon flaps. The correct order for threading is: From the nylon loop through both side flaps (either left or right first). Next, thread through the rear flap grommet. Finally, pass the nylon rope through the front flap grommet. Begin compressing the spring down as far as you can. As the spring compresses, a helper can pull the slack in the nylon rope. Fold the two side flaps in first so the rope passes through the grommets in the order threaded. You need both hands, one on each side of the side flaps to keep the spring compressed and to get the two side flap grommets aligned on top of each other. Next, fold over the rear flap and get the three grommets to align, pulling up the slack in the rope. The nylon loop should exit the three flaps' grommets. Fold the forth flap (the front flap) over the other three, all the while compressing the spring down as hard as you can. As the nylon loop passes through the forth grommet, secure the loop (with your helper) by sliding the large cotter pin through it. Slide it in from the back of the container. I think the ACES II seat uses a pin with a loop on it, but a cotter pin will work fine. Do not substitute a helper's finger in place of the cotter pin! The pin should not be too long. I would cut it to less than 1" long and file the edges round and smooth. Make sure it straddles the grommets enough so that it won't get pulled through. Do this before compressing the spring. ;-) Once the pin is in place, carefully remove the nylon rope from the loop. The tong of the back flap should now slide into the pocket of the front flap, hiding the cotter pin. There is a small nylon string or wire that normally goes from the rear of the pin down into the back of the ACES II seat. Now, the two side elastic straps can be hooked onto the catches on the side flaps. They require a lot of force to stretch the distance and this is normal. Just go slow and steady. Finally, fill out the "Parachute Packing and Inspection Date" card in the left side pocket of the container. The lawyers will want to know who you are and where they can find you when they need to sue you in the event that the chute doesn't open after punching out. ;-) Got my parachute packed last night by roughly following instructions above. Thanks! Here are some minor points where I deviated: - I used a length of parachute cord about 5 feet long (from hand to outstretched hand) as an aid. To start, loop it through the green loop and fold it back over itself double. Then feed both ends through each grommet in turn. - To start, I set the parachute on top of the spring with the parachute grommet over the spring hole. I loosely wrapped the rest of the parachute around the spring sort of like how you put clothes in a washing machine. On top of the parachute grommet goes the rectangular "patch". This protects the parachute from the flaps. - I deduced the order of the flaps from the patterns of sun fading. I don't know if it's important or not, but on my container the order was: the flap with the tab first, the two sides next, and the other flap last. - I used an Allen wrench as the pull pin because I had one lying around. It doesn't really matter since the tab hides the pin anyway. - Make sure the side straps are unhooked when packing. I practiced a couple of times with no chute. I was able to pack it myself with no help. Had to hold the end of the cord with my teeth a couple times, though... Pulling the pin sure makes the top pop impressively! I was happy with how much easier the process was compared to my feeble attempts from the night before. Using the cord really makes the process easy. Someone should really document this process and put it on a web page. If no one else does it, and I end up repacking my chute for some reason, I'll have my wife take digital pictures next time. At 10:31 PM 3/22/02 +0100, you wrote: >thx derek. >is this at simpits.org?? or at your personal site? > >greetings >michi --Boundary_(ID_jgdeYJT6rF6+GyM/s//Knw) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On my hard drive, and backed up on CD. I haven't finished formatting it for HTML. Here's the stuff from the page:

I received my parachute container on Friday. Before I sit down and go through a struggle to repack the chute, does anyone have instructions/tips on how to do this properly? There is a rectangular piece of fabric with a slotted hole. I'm guessing that this sits on top of the chute under the cover flaps. I'm also guessing that the little loop of cord in the center of the spring goes through the parachute grommet, the four cover grommets, and has something stuck through the loop to hold everything together. Does the little flat tab on one of the covers go through the cord loop? Does anyone have a softcopy of the actual packing procedure? Instructions for folding the chute? I know I could just remove the spring, but I'd like to leave everything intact if I can. I know that all of this makes no sense to someone who hasn't seen the parachute container...

I'm looking for the same answer to your question. Will get delivery of my parachute container in the next two weeks. So far I haven't found anything on the internet apart from one picture of a packed chute looking down on the chute pin. Looking forward to anyone else that might come up with more info.

Hi, It is not a problem and you are mostly right on your suspicions. If your container has the drone chute with it, you need to wrap that rascal up. I loosely wrapped mine around the center canvas that surrounds the spring (if memory serves) and began the compression of the spring. It helps to have a helper and a large cotter pin handy. Also, a length of thin nylon rope (string) is required.
Getting Started: Place the container with the pole end on the floor. I sat in a chair to do this. Be mindful of the spring! Make sure the two elastic side straps are unhooked from the flaps. Loosely thread the nylon rope through the green nylon loop and then through each of the grommets on the four open ends of the nylon flaps. The correct order for threading is: From the nylon loop through both side flaps (either left or right first). Next, thread through the rear flap grommet. Finally, pass the nylon rope through the front flap grommet. Begin compressing the spring down as far as you can. As the spring compresses, a helper can pull the slack in the nylon rope. Fold the two side flaps in first so the rope passes through the grommets in the order threaded. You need both hands, one on each side of the side flaps to keep the spring compressed and to get the two side flap grommets aligned on top of each other. Next, fold over the rear flap and get the three grommets to align, pulling up the slack in the rope. The nylon loop should exit the three flaps' grommets. Fold the forth flap (the front flap) over the other three, all the while compressing the spring down as hard as you can. As the nylon loop passes through the forth grommet, secure the loop (with your helper) by sliding the large cotter pin through it. Slide it in from the back of the container. I think the ACES II seat uses a pin with a loop on it, but a cotter pin will work fine. Do not substitute a helper's finger in place of the cotter pin! The pin should not be too long. I would cut it to less than 1" long and file the edges round and smooth. Make sure it straddles the grommets enough so that it won't get pulled through. Do this before compressing the spring. ;-) Once the pin is in place, carefully remove the nylon rope from the loop. The tong of the back flap should now slide into the pocket of the front flap, hiding the cotter pin. There is a small nylon string or wire that normally goes from the rear of the pin down into the back of the ACES II seat. Now, the two side elastic straps can be hooked onto the catches on the side flaps. They require a lot of force to stretch the distance and this is normal. Just go slow and steady. Finally, fill out the "Parachute Packing and Inspection Date" card in the left side pocket of the container. The lawyers will want to know who you are and where they can find you when they need to sue you in the event that the chute doesn't open after punching out. ;-)

Got my parachute packed last night by roughly following instructions above. Thanks! Here are some minor points where I deviated: - I used a length of parachute cord about 5 feet long (from hand to outstretched hand) as an aid. To start, loop it through the green loop and fold it back over itself double. Then feed both ends through each grommet in turn. - To start, I set the parachute on top of the spring with the parachute grommet over the spring hole. I loosely wrapped the rest of the parachute around the spring sort of like how you put clothes in a washing machine. On top of the parachute grommet goes the rectangular "patch". This protects the parachute from the flaps. - I deduced the order of the flaps from the patterns of sun fading. I don't know if it's important or not, but on my container the order was: the flap with the tab first, the two sides next, and the other flap last. - I used an Allen wrench as the pull pin because I had one lying around. It doesn't really matter since the tab hides the pin anyway. - Make sure the side straps are unhooked when packing. I practiced a couple of times with no chute. I was able to pack it myself with no help. Had to hold the end of the cord with my teeth a couple times, though... Pulling the pin sure makes the top pop impressively! I was happy with how much easier the process was compared to my feeble attempts from the night before. Using the cord really makes the process easy. Someone should really document this process and put it on a web page. If no one else does it, and I end up repacking my chute for some reason, I'll have my wife take digital pictures next time.


At 10:31 PM 3/22/02 +0100, you wrote:

thx derek.
is this at simpits.org?? or at your personal site?

greetings
michi
--Boundary_(ID_jgdeYJT6rF6+GyM/s//Knw)-- From simpits-tech@simpits.org Fri Mar 22 23:40:51 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Brian Sikkema) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 23:40:51 Subject: R: [simpits-tech] Webpage update Message-ID: Geez, Martin. I hereby dub thee "Dirty Little Tease." ;) heheh. Can't wait! Brian ----Original Message Follows---- From: Martin Ingold Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org To: simpits-tech@simpits.org Subject: Re: R: [simpits-tech] Webpage update Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 23:45:14 +0100 Hehehehe. Just wait for the next update.... ;-) Martin Davide schrieb: > Wow Martin....... > what a nice collection ! > How much for a couple of contact of your "little black book"...... eh eh eh > Brian was right ! > Maybe one day we'll see your "Full Viper" taking off from your garden ! > Waiting next news ! > > Davide > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Brian Sikkema > To: > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 2:37 AM > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Webpage update > > > Those are some nice catches, Martin! Some of that stuff looks brand new! > > What I wouldnt give for your "little black book" ;) > > > > Brian > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > > From: Martin Ingold > > Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org > > To: undisclosed-recipients:; > > Subject: [simpits-tech] Webpage update > > Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 18:36:49 +0100 > > > > Hi, > > > > Just wanted to let you know that I updated my homepage. For a list of > > updated things, got to the "updated" section. > > > > http://www.f16cockpit.net > > > > As always, feedback is welcome. > > Regards, > > Martin > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Simpits-tech mailing list > > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. > > Thanks! > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Simpits-tech mailing list > > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. 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Thanks! _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sat Mar 23 13:35:50 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Todd Ferrante) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 08:35:50 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Re: Weak keyboard inputs References: <3C7149B0.94FC6781@axom.com> <3C9C8126.CB32AA19@axom.com> Message-ID: <3C9C84B6.24D1DD8@axom.com> David, I'm not sure, but this sounds a lot like the problems I once had with daisychaining two Masterpilots and my Saitek X36. Before you go through all the trouble of building a seperate keyboard power supply, check out this page: http://www.simpits.org/~toddf/console/DaisyChainMPs.htm Todd F. Old Message: > I just bought a new system which is great except the keyboard input > seems to > weak to daisychain my Suncomm system and my two Masterpilots. In fact, > it > won't recognize anything but the keyboard. Anyone know of a way around > this. > I changed to a USB keyboard thinking that would free up some resources > but > it didn't. Is it possible to get keyboard/USB converters that I could > plug > all the other things into? Thanks! > David Lee From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sat Mar 23 15:27:46 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Alan D. Mazurka) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 10:27:46 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Re: Weak keyboard inputs In-Reply-To: <3C9C84B6.24D1DD8@axom.com> References: <3C7149B0.94FC6781@axom.com> <3C9C8126.CB32AA19@axom.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020323102520.00a2dec0@mail.verizon.net> --=====================_682668==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hi, David. ...yet another possible solution (if you don't want to get dirty with electrons): http://www.piengineering.com/ they are frames-based, so you have to go to the "PRODUCTS" page, then scroll down to the "5 VOLT TRANSFORMER" item. it seems to have the proper PS/2 connector (if that's what you need). check it out, and take care, - adm - > > Old Message: > > I just bought a new system which is great except the keyboard input > > seems to > > weak to daisychain my Suncomm system and my two Masterpilots. In fact, > > it > > won't recognize anything but the keyboard. Anyone know of a way around > > this. > > I changed to a USB keyboard thinking that would free up some resources > > but > > it didn't. Is it possible to get keyboard/USB converters that I could > > plug > > all the other things into? Thanks! > > David Lee >_______________________________________________ >Simpits-tech mailing list >Simpits-tech@simpits.org >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above >page. Thanks! ---------- Alan D. Mazurka Webspace Design & Implementation adm.design@verizon.net --=====================_682668==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Hi, David.

...yet another possible solution (if you don't want to get dirty with electrons):

http://www.piengineering.com/

they are frames-based, so you have to go to the "PRODUCTS" page, then scroll down to the "5 VOLT TRANSFORMER" item. it seems to have the proper PS/2 connector (if that's what you need).

check it out,  and take care,

 - adm -




 
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> I just bought a new system which is great except the keyboard input
> seems to
> weak to daisychain my Suncomm system and my two Masterpilots. In fact,
> it
> won't recognize anything but the keyboard. Anyone know of a way around
> this.
> I changed to a USB keyboard thinking that would free up some resources
> but
> it didn't. Is it possible to get keyboard/USB converters that I could
> plug
> all the other things into? Thanks!
> David Lee
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--=====================_682668==_.ALT-- From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sun Mar 24 12:49:17 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (michael hirczy) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 13:49:17 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] repacking ACES II parachute container In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020322173954.02825c80@mail.higlet.com> References: <200203221444.g2MEiUS06802@www5.dixiesys.com> <200203221444.g2MEiUS06802@www5.dixiesys.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20020322173954.02825c80@mail.higlet.com> Message-ID: <133259835.20020324134917@gmx.net> Hello Derek, Friday, March 22, 2002, 11:43:30 PM, you wrote: DH> On my hard drive, and backed up on CD. I haven't finished formatting it for DH> HTML. Here's the stuff from the page: thx, a lot derek!! following the descriptions, I was able to repack it by myself. greetings michi From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sun Mar 24 17:49:46 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Jean-Yves Surfin') Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 18:49:46 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] oxygen bottle References: <20020320.081350.-1643567.5.dglewis9@juno.com> Message-ID: <006f01c1d35c$4bdcd460$6bf6fea9@surfinjeannot> Hello Douglas The dimensions of the Green bottle (oxygene ??) on the left side is close to be 220 mm lenght + 60 mm hose and cap Total is 280 mm.. Anyone have some remarks about these dim. ? Hope that will help you Douglas... Surfin' 101th squadron French Division from the www.quebecairforce.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas G Lewis" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 2:13 PM Subject: [simpits-tech] oxygen bottle > Can anyone please tell me the approximate dimensions of the ACES II > oxygen bottle. Thanks > > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sun Mar 24 18:20:06 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Douglas G Lewis) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 13:20:06 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] oxygen bottle Message-ID: <20020324.132006.-703635.0.dglewis9@juno.com> Thank you very much for the information, I appreciate it. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sun Mar 24 18:34:19 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Jean-Yves Surfin') Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 19:34:19 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] oxygen bottle References: <20020324.132006.-703635.0.dglewis9@juno.com> Message-ID: <00a101c1d362$82d77aa0$6bf6fea9@surfinjeannot> Hi Douglas ! Cool. see u ! Surfin' 101th squadron French Division from the www.quebecairforce.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas G Lewis" To: Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] oxygen bottle > Thank you very much for the information, I appreciate it. > > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From simpits-tech@simpits.org Tue Mar 26 05:51:59 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Justin Messenger) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 21:51:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Boeing 707 sim Message-ID: <20020326055159.48948.qmail@web10002.mail.yahoo.com> I've been in contact with a guy who owns a real 707 sim http://www.707sim.com/ He is also nearly finished with a F-4D Phantom sim restoration. I guess he has more money than I do:) He did admit it has hit him in the pocket book. Justin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/ From simpits-tech@simpits.org Tue Mar 26 10:56:00 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Marv De Beque) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 05:56:00 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Boeing 707 sim In-Reply-To: <20020326055159.48948.qmail@web10002.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0EDEEE6E-40A8-11D6-9BA3-000502DE6569@speakeasy.net> Does he have pictures of the F-4D sim? Marv On Tuesday, March 26, 2002, at 12:51 AM, Justin Messenger wrote: > I've been in contact with a guy who owns a real 707 > sim > http://www.707sim.com/ > > He is also nearly finished with a F-4D Phantom sim > restoration. I guess he has more money than I do:) He > did admit it has hit him in the pocket book. > > Justin > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy AwardsÆ > http://movies.yahoo.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > From simpits-tech@simpits.org Tue Mar 26 16:03:36 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 08:03:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Boeing 707 sim In-Reply-To: <20020326055159.48948.qmail@web10002.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 25 Mar 2002, Justin Messenger wrote: > I've been in contact with a guy who owns a real 707 > sim > http://www.707sim.com/ > > He is also nearly finished with a F-4D Phantom sim > restoration. I guess he has more money than I do:) He > did admit it has hit him in the pocket book. > > Justin That's pretty cool Justin. FYI, there are some neat flight sim cockpits up on eBay right now. g. -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Tue Mar 26 15:53:44 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Marc Weigert) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 16:53:44 +0100 Subject: AW: [simpits-tech] Boeing 707 sim In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Gene, I couldn't find these cockpits at eBay, except a Space Shuttle cockpit http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1085108266 Do you have some links at hand?? Cheers, Marc > -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- > Von: simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org > [mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org]Im Auftrag von Gene Buckle > Gesendet: Dienstag, 26. Marz 2002 17:04 > An: simpits-tech@simpits.org > Betreff: Re: [simpits-tech] Boeing 707 sim > > > On Mon, 25 Mar 2002, Justin Messenger wrote: > > > I've been in contact with a guy who owns a real 707 > > sim > > http://www.707sim.com/ > > > > He is also nearly finished with a F-4D Phantom sim > > restoration. I guess he has more money than I do:) He > > did admit it has hit him in the pocket book. > > > > Justin > > That's pretty cool Justin. FYI, there are some neat flight sim cockpits > up on eBay right now. > > g. > > -- > "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the > above page. Thanks! > From simpits-tech@simpits.org Tue Mar 26 17:17:35 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 09:17:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: AW: [simpits-tech] Boeing 707 sim In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > I couldn't find these cockpits at eBay, except a Space Shuttle cockpit > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1085108266 > > Do you have some links at hand?? > Marc, I did a search for "flight simulator -microsoft -game" It kicked back about 400 hits and 4 of them were flight sim cockpits, not including the crack-smoker that thinks someone is is going to cough up $15k for a home-built shuttle cockpit that's woefully inaccurate. g. -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Tue Mar 26 16:32:08 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Shira, Craig) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 10:32:08 -0600 Subject: AW: [simpits-tech] Boeing 707 sim Message-ID: Gene, Thats not very nice, but true. -----Original Message----- From: Gene Buckle [mailto:geneb@deltasoft.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 11:18 AM To: simpits-tech@simpits.org Subject: Re: AW: [simpits-tech] Boeing 707 sim > > I couldn't find these cockpits at eBay, except a Space Shuttle cockpit > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1085108266 > > Do you have some links at hand?? > Marc, I did a search for "flight simulator -microsoft -game" It kicked back about 400 hits and 4 of them were flight sim cockpits, not including the crack-smoker that thinks someone is is going to cough up $15k for a home-built shuttle cockpit that's woefully inaccurate. g. -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech@simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From simpits-tech@simpits.org Tue Mar 26 16:58:12 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Marc Weigert) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 17:58:12 +0100 Subject: AW: AW: [simpits-tech] Boeing 707 sim In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Gene, thanx alot for this query string - it helped me to find the cockpits!! Ton anybody else, here they are: - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1715984333 -> A-6 - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1715983959 -> F-18 - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1715984694 -> F-14?? - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1715985158 -> F-117 Not really authentic, but still quite nice if you just want to cockpit to fly your fav. sim! Gene, I agree that these $15k are totally out of "mental health" ;)) Cheers, Marc > -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- > Von: simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org > [mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org]Im Auftrag von Gene Buckle > Gesendet: Dienstag, 26. Marz 2002 18:18 > An: simpits-tech@simpits.org > Betreff: Re: AW: [simpits-tech] Boeing 707 sim > > > > > > I couldn't find these cockpits at eBay, except a Space Shuttle cockpit > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1085108266 > > > > Do you have some links at hand?? > > > Marc, I did a search for "flight simulator -microsoft -game" It kicked > back about 400 hits and 4 of them were flight sim cockpits, not including > the crack-smoker that thinks someone is is going to cough up $15k for a > home-built shuttle cockpit that's woefully inaccurate. > > g. > > > -- > "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the > above page. Thanks! > From simpits-tech@simpits.org Tue Mar 26 18:18:05 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 10:18:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: AW: [simpits-tech] Boeing 707 sim In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I just call 'em like I see 'em Craig. He sees a labor of love worth 15K, I see a pile of scrap that has enough usable parts to be worth about a grand. g. On Tue, 26 Mar 2002, Shira, Craig wrote: > Gene, > Thats not very nice, but true. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gene Buckle [mailto:geneb@deltasoft.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 11:18 AM > To: simpits-tech@simpits.org > Subject: Re: AW: [simpits-tech] Boeing 707 sim > > > > > > I couldn't find these cockpits at eBay, except a Space Shuttle cockpit > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1085108266 > > > > Do you have some links at hand?? > > > Marc, I did a search for "flight simulator -microsoft -game" It kicked > back about 400 hits and 4 of them were flight sim cockpits, not including > the crack-smoker that thinks someone is is going to cough up $15k for a > home-built shuttle cockpit that's woefully inaccurate. > > g. > > > -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Tue Mar 26 17:08:00 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Justin Messenger) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 09:08:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] F-4 pictures Message-ID: <20020326170800.95318.qmail@web10001.mail.yahoo.com> Marv, You can see two pictures of the sim at my website http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Galaxy/3480/SteveCannaby.html Justin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/ From simpits-tech@simpits.org Tue Mar 26 18:45:22 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Shay Forsythe) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 10:45:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Motion platform Message-ID: <20020326184522.72D2B3ED3@sitemail.everyone.net> Hey all, I'm new to the group and excited to be here! I don't know how much information there is out there and I have been looking hard to find it. Does anyone know of any good resources for building electric servo motion platforms? Also, I should be getting some actual measurements from various cockpits within a few weeks. I'll be more than happy to post anything I gather for all who are interested. Thanks! -Shay- _____________________________________________________________ ZenSearch - for balanced search results. http://www.ZenSearch.com _____________________________________________________________ Run a small business? Then you need professional email like you@yourbiz.com from Everyone.net http://www.everyone.net?tag From simpits-tech@simpits.org Tue Mar 26 18:55:33 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Justin Messenger) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 10:55:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] My DC-8 site Message-ID: <20020326185533.21744.qmail@web10001.mail.yahoo.com> I spent the morning and fixed the problems on my site, If you haven't seen the pictures of Steve Smith's 747 on fire yet you can see them now under the history section. http://dc8cockpit.bravepages.com/index.html Justin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/ From simpits-tech@simpits.org Tue Mar 26 20:27:21 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 12:27:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: AW: AW: [simpits-tech] Boeing 707 sim In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Gene, thanx alot for this query string - it helped me to find the cockpits!! > You're quite welcome. > Ton anybody else, here they are: > - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1715984333 -> A-6 > - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1715983959 -> F-18 > - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1715984694 -> F-14?? > - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1715985158 -> F-117 > > Not really authentic, but still quite nice if you just want to cockpit to > fly your fav. sim! > Certainly! From what I saw, they should be easily interfacable to a desktop PC. g. > Gene, I agree that these $15k are totally out of "mental health" ;)) > > Cheers, > > Marc > > > -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- > > Von: simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org > > [mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org]Im Auftrag von Gene Buckle > > Gesendet: Dienstag, 26. Marz 2002 18:18 > > An: simpits-tech@simpits.org > > Betreff: Re: AW: [simpits-tech] Boeing 707 sim > > > > > > > > > > I couldn't find these cockpits at eBay, except a Space Shuttle cockpit > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1085108266 > > > > > > Do you have some links at hand?? > > > > > Marc, I did a search for "flight simulator -microsoft -game" It kicked > > back about 400 hits and 4 of them were flight sim cockpits, not including > > the crack-smoker that thinks someone is is going to cough up $15k for a > > home-built shuttle cockpit that's woefully inaccurate. > > > > g. > > > > > > -- > > "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" > > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Simpits-tech mailing list > > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the > > above page. Thanks! > > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Wed Mar 27 01:11:33 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Frank Markovich) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 19:11:33 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] ISA EPIC Card maybe for sale References: <200203262001.MAA05331@uridium.deltasoft.com> Message-ID: <000901c1d52c$55d6c3a0$0300a8c0@mn.client2.attbi.com> Hi all, I am thinking of upgrading to the USB EPIC card and may like to sell my ISA revision D card for $100. I'll know for sure in a couple of days. Just wanted to give you guys first crack at it, email me directly if you are interested. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Wed Mar 27 14:21:27 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Tom Colello) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 08:21:27 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Suncom Stick and Throttle Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20020327082127.00796100@intersurf.com> Is anyone out there using Suncom's F-15 "Talon" Stick and Throttle? Saw what looks to be a good price on Ebay. If anyone has any experience or opinions on this setup I would sure like to hear them. The local Electronics Boutique also has them for around the same price. Please Advise. Thanks, Tom From simpits-tech@simpits.org Wed Mar 27 15:35:36 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Brian Sikkema) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 15:35:36 Subject: [simpits-tech] Suncom Stick and Throttle Message-ID: I havent used the throttle but I used to have the Talon, loved it to death. Only reason I dont still have it is because when my throttle (CH) died I picked up an X-36 combo, so I sold that stick to a friend. I havent had any bad experiences with the Talon. Brian ----Original Message Follows---- From: Tom Colello <4b@intersurf.com> Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org To: simpits-tech@simpits.org Subject: [simpits-tech] Suncom Stick and Throttle Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 08:21:27 -0600 Is anyone out there using Suncom's F-15 "Talon" Stick and Throttle? Saw what looks to be a good price on Ebay. If anyone has any experience or opinions on this setup I would sure like to hear them. The local Electronics Boutique also has them for around the same price. Please Advise. Thanks, Tom _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech@simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From simpits-tech@simpits.org Wed Mar 27 21:26:19 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Scott Boswell) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 09:26:19 +1200 Subject: [simpits-tech] Suncom Stick and Throttle Message-ID: <90F0B18B9AC4EB4E9AED420B1DF84E0E87DB44@inzwlgsexc01.industrynz.govt.nz> Ive had several throttles and although they look as sexy as hell the quality of the units left a hell of a lot to be desired. Id say though, if you can get it for bugger all it would be a good purchase and even better, if you have an epic card you could just rip the guts out of the throttle and use it through the epic. BE WARNED THOUGH. The throttle lokos cool...but the quality is on the dodgy side...hence them going out of business. Regards Scott "Mailman" Boswell 89th (New Zealand) Fighter Wing http://www.89nzfw.co.nz Message: 2 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 08:21:27 -0600 To: simpits-tech@simpits.org From: Tom Colello <4b@intersurf.com> Subject: [simpits-tech] Suncom Stick and Throttle Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org Is anyone out there using Suncom's F-15 "Talon" Stick and Throttle? Saw what looks to be a good price on Ebay. If anyone has any experience or opinions on this setup I would sure like to hear them. The local Electronics Boutique also has them for around the same price. Please Advise. Thanks, Tom From simpits-tech@simpits.org Thu Mar 28 00:41:42 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Gene Buckle) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 16:41:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Site update... Message-ID: New goodies on the F-15! http://www.f15sim.com g. -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Thu Mar 28 13:52:01 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Marc Quintin) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 08:52:01 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Suncom Stick and Throttle References: <3.0.5.32.20020327082127.00796100@intersurf.com> Message-ID: <004801c1d65f$bccd68a0$04c5c818@videotron.ca> Get it, you won't regret it, I have owned the combo since 1996, IMHO the best hotas some one could get. Where at Ebay did you see it for sale? I might get a spare set. Marc.. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Colello" <4b@intersurf.com> To: Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 9:21 AM Subject: [simpits-tech] Suncom Stick and Throttle > Is anyone out there using Suncom's F-15 "Talon" Stick and Throttle? Saw > what looks to be a good price on Ebay. If anyone has any experience or > opinions on this setup I would sure like to hear them. The local > Electronics Boutique also has them for around the same price. Please Advise. > Thanks, > Tom > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From simpits-tech@simpits.org Thu Mar 28 14:53:33 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Ken Trager) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 09:53:33 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Driving Resolvers References: Message-ID: <3CA32E6D.7080D5CE@clt.bellsouth.net> Well, I took the dive and brought a ADI out of a DC-10 for my KingAir Sim. Question is - after looking at Matt Wietlispach's webpage http://members.aol.com/wietlpachm/howto/technical.htm There is got to be a way of doing it- Matt is doing it but HOW?? Is Matt out there in SimPit land? His webpage does not show what he is using to convert digit into resolver signals. Gene - I got an absolute encoder to work on the back side of the VOR. Thanks - it is easy - it is using a 9 bit data bus with BCD code. The signals go into the serial port and VB picks the number - i just have not wrote the code to write to FSUIPC. Back to the resolver - someone back a couple weeks said that resolvers have little torque and to use a stepper motor - The ADI uses resolver for both Roll and Pitch so I am going to stay with that. It will save me some time by not ripping the damm thing apart and putting in stepper motors. Any ideas out there - Ken Trager From simpits-tech@simpits.org Thu Mar 28 14:53:14 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Ken Trager) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 09:53:14 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Driving Resolvers References: Message-ID: <3CA32E59.62209B9B@clt.bellsouth.net> Well, I took the dive and brought a ADI out of a DC-10 for my KingAir Sim. Question is - after looking at Matt Wietlispach's webpage http://members.aol.com/wietlpachm/howto/technical.htm There is got to be a way of doing it- Matt is doing it but HOW?? His webpage does not show what he is using to convert digit into resolver signals. Gene - I got an absolute encoder to work on the back side of the VOR. Thanks - it is easy - it is using a 9 bit data bus with BCD code. The signals go into the serial port and VB picks the number - i just have not wrote the code to write to FSUIPC. Back to the resolver - someone back a couple weeks said that resolvers have little torque and to use a stepper motor - The ADI uses resolver for both Roll and Pitch so I am going to stay with that. It will save me some time by not ripping the damm thing apart and putting in stepper motors. Any ideas out there - Ken Trager From simpits-tech@simpits.org Thu Mar 28 16:43:06 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 08:43:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Driving Resolvers In-Reply-To: <3CA32E6D.7080D5CE@clt.bellsouth.net> Message-ID: > Question is - after looking at Matt Wietlispach's webpage > http://members.aol.com/wietlpachm/howto/technical.htm > > There is got to be a way of doing it- Matt is doing it but HOW?? > He's using a Digital to Synchro converter. He managed to find some surplus. This allows him to "correctly" drive his real aircraft instruments. The cheapest D->S chip I've found is $955 in single quantities. > Gene - I got an absolute encoder to work on the back side of the VOR. > Thanks - it is easy - it is using a 9 bit data bus with BCD code. The > signals go into the serial port and VB picks the number - i just have > not wrote the code to write to FSUIPC. > Cool! Glad to hear it! > Back to the resolver - someone back a couple weeks said that resolvers > have little torque and to use a stepper motor - The ADI uses resolver > for both Roll and Pitch so I am going to stay with that. It will save > me some time by not ripping the damm thing apart and putting in > stepper motors. > Actually, resolvers have a huge amount of torque. I think you're thinking of air-core motors. They work on a similar principle, but product almost no torque. g. -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Thu Mar 28 18:23:25 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Bob Phillips) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 12:23:25 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Suncom Stick and Throttle References: <3.0.5.32.20020327082127.00796100@intersurf.com> Message-ID: <000f01c1d685$a6d00690$0300a8c0@BOBS> > Is anyone out there using Suncom's F-15 "Talon" Stick and Throttle? Saw > what looks to be a good price on Ebay. If anyone has any experience or > opinions on this setup I would sure like to hear them. The local > Electronics Boutique also has them for around the same price. Please Advise. > Thanks, > Tom Do not own one now, but have been thinking about it for awhile since I can not afford a cougar. The suncom controllers are based on being a keystroke emulator, they are not operating system dependent, like the Saitek controllers. If you do not use xp or w2k, then I would recommend the Saitek. Even with all their problems once you get them to work you have one hell of a system. If you are using xp or w2k then I would go with the Suncoms, because of lack of support by Saitek on these systems. And yes, there are people working on the xp problems with the Saitek, I just have not tried them yet. I think that the flight controller from Suncom looks better, but the throttle on the Saitek is more comfortable. Of course, suncom has a two engine throttle, if you fly a two engine bird, ala F15, F18. Since you are looking at ebay with the cougar coming out finally, you might be able to pick up a set of used Thrustmaster controllers at a fairly good price here in the next few weeks also. Bob "lumper" Phillips PS: if you do get a suncom, I have made a programming guide for it, let he know if you need it. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Thu Mar 28 21:57:30 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Steve Wilson) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 16:57:30 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Suncom Stick and Throttle References: <3.0.5.32.20020327082127.00796100@intersurf.com> <000f01c1d685$a6d00690$0300a8c0@BOBS> Message-ID: <001c01c1d6a3$91bbc5a0$6501a8c0@ne.client2.attbi.com> FWIW - I have a completely, utterly unused Suncom F-15 throttle that I will be disposing of. Planning to go eBay unless someone here makes a good offer - something like 80% of retail. Not sure what that is. Any takers contact me at mafsix@attbi.com and we'll work things out. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Phillips" To: Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Suncom Stick and Throttle > > > > > Is anyone out there using Suncom's F-15 "Talon" Stick and Throttle? Saw > > what looks to be a good price on Ebay. If anyone has any experience or > > opinions on this setup I would sure like to hear them. The local > > Electronics Boutique also has them for around the same price. Please > Advise. > > Thanks, > > Tom > > Do not own one now, but have been thinking about it for awhile since I can > not afford a cougar. The suncom controllers are based on being a keystroke > emulator, they are not operating system dependent, like the Saitek > controllers. If you do not use xp or w2k, then I would recommend the > Saitek. Even with all their problems once you get them to work you have one > hell of a system. If you are using xp or w2k then I would go with the > Suncoms, because of lack of support by Saitek on these systems. And yes, > there are people working on the xp problems with the Saitek, I just have not > tried them yet. I think that the flight controller from Suncom looks > better, but the throttle on the Saitek is more comfortable. Of course, > suncom has a two engine throttle, if you fly a two engine bird, ala F15, > F18. Since you are looking at ebay with the cougar coming out finally, you > might be able to pick up a set of used Thrustmaster controllers at a fairly > good price here in the next few weeks also. > > Bob "lumper" Phillips > > PS: if you do get a suncom, I have made a programming guide for it, let he > know if you need it. > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > From simpits-tech@simpits.org Fri Mar 29 00:26:33 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Stig Joergensen) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 01:26:33 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] Suncom Stick and Throttle Message-ID: <1463224A44C62243973321FB317A34E10F7D@exchange.clearsky.dk> Just a quick note here.... I have both X35/6 and X46 combo from saitek, and both worked with wk2 with out any hazle... I will recommend the X46 as USB version.... /Stig -----Original Message----- From: Bob Phillips [mailto:rip3700@charter.net] Sent: 28. marts 2002 19:23 To: simpits-tech@simpits.org Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Suncom Stick and Throttle > Is anyone out there using Suncom's F-15 "Talon" Stick and Throttle? Saw > what looks to be a good price on Ebay. If anyone has any experience or > opinions on this setup I would sure like to hear them. The local > Electronics Boutique also has them for around the same price. Please Advise. > Thanks, > Tom Do not own one now, but have been thinking about it for awhile since I can not afford a cougar. The suncom controllers are based on being a keystroke emulator, they are not operating system dependent, like the Saitek controllers. If you do not use xp or w2k, then I would recommend the Saitek. Even with all their problems once you get them to work you have one hell of a system. If you are using xp or w2k then I would go with the Suncoms, because of lack of support by Saitek on these systems. And yes, there are people working on the xp problems with the Saitek, From simpits-tech@simpits.org Fri Mar 29 03:04:26 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Bob Phillips) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 21:04:26 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Suncom Stick and Throttle References: <1463224A44C62243973321FB317A34E10F7D@exchange.clearsky.dk> Message-ID: <001801c1d6ce$6fe3c650$0300a8c0@BOBS> > Just a quick note here.... > > I have both X35/6 and X46 combo from saitek, and both worked with wk2 > with out any hazle... > > I will recommend the X46 as USB version.... I guess that I should have said that they work, but not the full functions (modes, rotaries, pinkie, etc) like under win98/me. I have the usb set of x36 and like them alot. I have used Thrustmaster, Suncom, Saitek, CH and have found that I like the feel of the Saitek (but they are what I started with back in 98). I like the programing for the suncom, because it is not operating system driven. I love the feel of the TM, but have not had one with the digital chip, or my hands on a cougar (this has to be the ultimate controller), and dislike the fell of the ch throttle, but like their petals. Speaking of petals, I have used a simped set and believe that they are the best all around. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Fri Mar 29 04:56:06 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (A L B E R T) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 15:56:06 +1100 Subject: [simpits-tech] Two F-18's have mid-air Message-ID: <003601c1d6de$afc82da0$0200a8c0@dashizznit> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1D73A.3E17B2A0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0006_01C1D73A.3E17B2A0" ------=_NextPart_001_0006_01C1D73A.3E17B2A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://208.185.185.31/Stories/0001-0020/0011_F-18_Mid-air/story0011.htm crazy stuff. 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Although my simulator never leaves the ground, I think what I am doing is very similar to what everyone here does with flight simulators. Let's face it, controls are controls. I built a fullsize cab and bought a nose section from a General Electric, model U33C locomotive over the past 10 years. MOst of this time has been spent building the cab. General Electric has been very helpful with information on the cab structure. I am now at the point of wiring everything together. Originally I was going to build my own interface to the PC and write my own simulator until I found out what you folks were doing with the EPIC and Flight Simulator. The EPIC will save years and I mean years of development time. My simulator will tie into either Microsoft's Train Simulator or some of the other commercially available simulators on the market. Using the EPIC, controlling the train is easy through the keyboard. Getting the data for outputs out of MSTS is another story... This part will come in time. I bought the EPIC USB a month ago and I am currently redesigning my wiring for the EPIC interfaces. I do not have many changes as I kept the simulator wiring as generic as possible. i.e All of my switches and lights all terminate at large connectors for the main controller. It is up to the main controller to "deal" with them from there. So it really comes down to changing the main controller out for the EPIC. Since I was only in the preliminary designs of the controller, not a lot of time was lost. The controller has the main controller/PC interface enclosed in a box with removable cards for maintenance. I merely had to change the logic voltage levels to 12V and redesign the main controller for the EPIC. I have a few questions for the group: 1. Are there resources available on the EPIC USB? I have all of the documentation from R&R and Flight Link's web site. I am looking for information on other manufacturer's interface cards for the EPIC bus or possibly details on the EPIC bus so that I might create my own interfaces. 2. Is there more information on EPL for the USB? I have read through the documentation that came with it and I am wondering if there is more information out there geared towards the USB version. Thanks in advanced for any assistance you may be able to provide. Please ask any questions you may have. Bill From simpits-tech@simpits.org Fri Mar 29 13:47:54 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Brian Sikkema) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 13:47:54 Subject: [simpits-tech] Two F-18's have mid-air Message-ID: Reader's Digest had a story about this a while back. The full story is just as amazing as those pictures, it's crazy stuff. Brian ----Original Message Follows---- From: "A L B E R T" Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org To: Subject: [simpits-tech] Two F-18's have mid-air Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 15:56:06 +1100 http://208.185.185.31/Stories/0001-0020/0011_F-18_Mid-air/story0011.htm crazy stuff. Albert Sydney, Australia << TwoF-18_shavemid-air.url >> _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Fri Mar 29 16:39:46 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 08:39:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] EPIC USB Resources In-Reply-To: <20020329132517.5007.qmail@aldus.northnet.org> Message-ID: > I am building a full size locomotive simulator using actual locomotive > controls and components. Although my simulator never leaves the ground, I > think what I am doing is very similar to what everyone here does with > flight simulators. Let's face it, controls are controls. > That is *so* cool. Do you have a website up with pics? > 1. Are there resources available on the EPIC USB? I have all of the > documentation from R&R and Flight Link's web site. I am looking for > information on other manufacturer's interface cards for the EPIC bus or > possibly details on the EPIC bus so that I might create my own interfaces. > There isn't much online right now, but you can contact Ralph Robinson, the creator of EPIC at rrelect@mindspring.com. He's VERY helpful. > 2. Is there more information on EPL for the USB? I have read through the > documentation that came with it and I am wondering if there is more > information out there geared towards the USB version. > You might want to check out Ray's website at http://www.avsim.com/bluesideup - he's got some good EPL examples. You should also check out http://www.mindspring.com/~rrelect g. -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Fri Mar 29 15:46:02 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Marc Weigert) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 16:46:02 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] For the A-4 builder around us In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi group, maybe an interesting items for you Scooter-builders amongst us: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1816851848 It's a canopy cover for a TA-4E. Cheers, Marc From simpits-tech@simpits.org Fri Mar 29 21:51:28 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 13:51:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Yahoo is out of control... Message-ID: See this: http://slashdot.org/articles/02/03/29/1833235.shtml?tid=111 Anyone that has a Yahoo account needs to go fix this before you're swamped with all sorts of crap. g. -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Fri Mar 29 20:44:14 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Justin Messenger) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 12:44:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Boeing 707 sim Message-ID: <20020329204414.30119.qmail@web10001.mail.yahoo.com> Steve sent me an email about putting the 707 sim on Ebay. What do you guys think its worth? Justin ------------------------------------------------------- As for why we're putting the B707 on Ebay is simply to find its worth. I've had a lot of different people and organizations inquiry about its purchase and nobody seems to know its value. I'm sure you've seen for yourself that most museums don't appreciate Items that are JUST given to them. I've witness too many times were museums just don't have the resources to protect artifacts like this. The Boeing 707 is America's first footprint in the Commercial Jet Age. This Simulator represents America's first footprint in Digital Flight Simulation. I guest I'm ready to see Serial Number 0001 go to the next level. We have a minim price of course, this is like our safe guard because the person or persons that buy this will not want to part it out. As it is right now, everything is there and in its right place. America Airlines looked at the Simulator about a year ago and said "Its cosmetically in better shape the their 70 " they were also impressed with the restoration. The bottom line is it's bigger than us and rightfully needs to be on display somewhere. Speech is over Later Steve __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Greetings - send holiday greetings for Easter, Passover http://greetings.yahoo.com/ From simpits-tech@simpits.org Fri Mar 29 22:13:03 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 14:13:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Boeing 707 sim In-Reply-To: <20020329204414.30119.qmail@web10001.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > Steve sent me an email about putting the 707 sim on > Ebay. > > What do you guys think its worth? > Justin > ------------------------------------------------------- If it's complete and in working order, I wouldn't entertain anything less than an even $1M. You have to consider that this is the first simulator of it's kind for the first successful jet airliner. Even as a cosmetically sound but inoperable "museum queen" it's got a LOT of value. I'd go right to the Smithsonian with this for the new Air & Space museum they're opening. g. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Fri Mar 29 20:59:41 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Martin Ingold) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 21:59:41 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] Yahoo is out of control... References: Message-ID: <3CA4D5BD.FABE2F6D@f16cockpit.net> Whew. Thanks for the heads up Gene. One day I'm going to delete my account there! Martin Gene Buckle schrieb: > See this: > http://slashdot.org/articles/02/03/29/1833235.shtml?tid=111 > > Anyone that has a Yahoo account needs to go fix this before you're swamped > with all sorts of crap. > > g. > > -- > "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From simpits-tech@simpits.org Fri Mar 29 22:22:22 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 14:22:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Yahoo is out of control... In-Reply-To: <3CA4D5BD.FABE2F6D@f16cockpit.net> Message-ID: You're quite welcome. CAn't have these unheeled spammers running amok! g. On Fri, 29 Mar 2002, Martin Ingold wrote: > Whew. Thanks for the heads up Gene. One day I'm going to delete my account there! > > Martin > > Gene Buckle schrieb: > > > See this: > > http://slashdot.org/articles/02/03/29/1833235.shtml?tid=111 > > > > Anyone that has a Yahoo account needs to go fix this before you're swamped > > with all sorts of crap. > > > > g. > > > > -- > > "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" > > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Simpits-tech mailing list > > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Fri Mar 29 22:24:53 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 14:24:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] American Fighter Pilot Message-ID: For those of us that have a local CBS Television affiliate, the first episode of An American Fighter Pilot premieres tonight at 8PM Pacific time. (other timezones may have different start times) The show follows 3 pilot cadets through their training in the F-15C at Tyndall AFB. The cinematography will blow your mind. Don't miss it! g. -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From simpits-tech@simpits.org Fri Mar 29 21:25:46 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (eric wh) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 13:25:46 -0800 Subject: [simpits-tech] point osf view Message-ID:
 

I want to change the point of view

In fs2002 I have it projected on a big screen and the horizon is to far up I want to move it down can anybody tell me how to do it

tilting the perspective dosnt work i need it to look like i am looking out a 737 window not sitting on the runway in a gocart

any help would be appreciated

 


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From simpits-tech@simpits.org Fri Mar 29 22:00:38 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Davide) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 23:00:38 +0100 Subject: R: [simpits-tech] Yahoo is out of control... References: Message-ID: Thanks Gene ! Work done ! Cheers All Davide ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene Buckle To: Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 11:22 PM Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Yahoo is out of control... > You're quite welcome. CAn't have these unheeled spammers running amok! > > g. > > On Fri, 29 Mar 2002, Martin Ingold wrote: > > > Whew. Thanks for the heads up Gene. One day I'm going to delete my account there! > > > > Martin > > > > Gene Buckle schrieb: > > > > > See this: > > > http://slashdot.org/articles/02/03/29/1833235.shtml?tid=111 > > > > > > Anyone that has a Yahoo account needs to go fix this before you're swamped > > > with all sorts of crap. > > > > > > g. > > > > > > -- > > > "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" > > > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Simpits-tech mailing list > > > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > > > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > > > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Simpits-tech mailing list > > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > > > > -- > "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sat Mar 30 20:32:04 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Rod Dale) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 12:32:04 -0800 Subject: [simpits-tech] EPIC USB Resources In-Reply-To: <20020329132517.5007.qmail@aldus.northnet.org> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020330123011.00a253f0@mail.castle.net.au> At 01:25 PM 3/29/02 +0000, you wrote: >Hi Folks, > >I am new to the list and I have been lurking in the background for a few >weeks now. > >I am building a full size locomotive simulator using actual locomotive >controls and components. > >Bill Hi Bill, Welcome - it's good to see someone who has their feet on the ground, most of us are walking on air :-) Rod >_______________________________________________ >Simpits-tech mailing list >Simpits-tech@simpits.org >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above >page. Thanks! From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sat Mar 30 01:35:43 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (simpits-tech@simpits.org) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 20:35:43 EST Subject: [simpits-tech] F-16 simulation parts Message-ID: <121.e6a8feb.29d6706f@aol.com> Hello, I have visited many of your web pages and have been very impressed with the quality of the craftsmanship. You guys are pretty awesome. My project is of lesser caliber and lower budget but I want it to be upgradeable. 1. Does anyone know where to get knobs and dials appropriate to the F-16 panels? (there are vendors who charge $1000 for the panels, but I am looking for only the knobs --for cosmetic reasons.) 2. How about those red switch guards? (price?) John From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sat Mar 30 03:55:43 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Rob Hommel) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 19:55:43 -0800 Subject: [simpits-tech] American Fighter Pilot References: Message-ID: <00b901c1d79f$3e349590$16bc1ad0@betty> Gene: I hope you are recording this.... I have it set up for recording but I would appreciate a second copy in case of anything going wrong. Keep 'em Flying Rob Hommel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Buckle" To: Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 2:24 PM Subject: [simpits-tech] American Fighter Pilot > For those of us that have a local CBS Television affiliate, the first > episode of An American Fighter Pilot premieres tonight at 8PM Pacific > time. (other timezones may have different start times) > > The show follows 3 pilot cadets through their training in the F-15C at > Tyndall AFB. The cinematography will blow your mind. Don't miss it! > > g. > > > -- > "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sat Mar 30 07:52:30 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Biggles) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 08:52:30 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] F-16 AVIONIC SYSTEM MANUAL - 2 Volumes (pogo) Message-ID: <005e01c1d7bf$da935aa0$6c9c8418@HOMEPLATE> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005A_01C1D7C8.39C83E20 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_005B_01C1D7C8.39C83E20" ------=_NextPart_001_005B_01C1D7C8.39C83E20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You had some competition there. Drove the price right up. Was thinking of bidding on this item myself till i saw your name under = it. Can you give us some feedback about the subjects discribed in the = manuals ? E.g. detailed info about some systems, schematic drawings and all that = sort of stuff. Might be interested putting the most interested stuf on the simpits = server. 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For the knobs, there isnt much choise. We are all waiting for Marv to startup the production line :-) Biggles. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 2:35 AM Subject: [simpits-tech] F-16 simulation parts > Hello, > > I have visited many of your web pages and have been very impressed with the > quality of the craftsmanship. You guys are pretty awesome. > > My project is of lesser caliber and lower budget but I want it to be > upgradeable. > > 1. Does anyone know where to get knobs and dials appropriate to the F-16 > panels? > (there are vendors who charge $1000 for the panels, but I am looking for only > the knobs --for cosmetic reasons.) > 2. How about those red switch guards? (price?) > > John > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > > From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sat Mar 30 08:17:01 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Biggles) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 09:17:01 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] American Fighter Pilot References: Message-ID: <009601c1d7c3$44967470$6c9c8418@HOMEPLATE> Oke here in Holland we dont get the program. Anyone interested to convert the recorded tape to some sort of digital file. Burn it on a cd and im willing to pay for the costs. Only if the material showed is interested enough. Let the rest of us know if the first episode was any good. Biggles. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Buckle" To: Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 11:24 PM Subject: [simpits-tech] American Fighter Pilot > For those of us that have a local CBS Television affiliate, the first > episode of An American Fighter Pilot premieres tonight at 8PM Pacific > time. (other timezones may have different start times) > > The show follows 3 pilot cadets through their training in the F-15C at > Tyndall AFB. The cinematography will blow your mind. Don't miss it! > > g. > > > -- > "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > > From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sat Mar 30 09:51:11 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Marc Teichtahl) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 10:51:11 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] American Fighter Pilot Message-ID: I second this.. I even have a large disk store to put it for international downloads ----------------------------------------- Marc Teichtahl Consulting Engineer - PTT2 Ph: +31651116597 SMS: mzt-sms@cisco.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Biggles [mailto:r.koopman0@chello.nl] > Sent: 30 March 2002 09:17 > To: simpits-tech@simpits.org > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] American Fighter Pilot > > > Oke here in Holland we dont get the program. > Anyone interested to convert the recorded tape to some sort > of digital file. > Burn it on a cd and im willing to pay for the costs. > Only if the material showed is interested enough. > > Let the rest of us know if the first episode was any good. > > Biggles. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gene Buckle" > To: > Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 11:24 PM > Subject: [simpits-tech] American Fighter Pilot > > > > For those of us that have a local CBS Television affiliate, > the first > > episode of An American Fighter Pilot premieres tonight at > 8PM Pacific > > time. (other timezones may have different start times) > > > > The show follows 3 pilot cadets through their training in > the F-15C at > > Tyndall AFB. The cinematography will blow your mind. > Don't miss it! > > > > g. > > > > > > -- > > "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" > > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Simpits-tech mailing list > > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom > of the above > page. Thanks! > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of > the above page. Thanks! > From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sat Mar 30 13:08:30 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Ant C) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 13:08:30 +0000 Subject: [simpits-tech] Mechwarrior 4 sourcecode to be released! :) Message-ID: Hey Mechwarrior fans, things are looking up for for us mechpit builders the full sourcecode to MW4 is about to be released :) maybe we can get a full working cockpit after all check out http://www.dropshipcommand.com for full details ps i hope theres some mech fans that can program, on the list :) _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sat Mar 30 15:07:29 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Jean-Yves Surfin') Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 16:07:29 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] American Fighter Pilot References: Message-ID: <001c01c1d7fc$9c654ee0$6bf6fea9@surfinjeannot> Hi Pilots ! I've no cable or satellite here. I'm very interested to get in in digital media (dowloading is not truely a problem because I have ADSL, or get in on a burned CD) Gene or Simpits member, are you able to put a huge file (hi-quality) on a server ? Thanks for all. Bye from France.... Surfin' 101th virtual squadron www.quebecairforce.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marc Teichtahl" To: Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 10:51 AM Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] American Fighter Pilot > I second this.. > > I even have a large disk store to put it for international downloads > > > ----------------------------------------- > Marc Teichtahl > Consulting Engineer - PTT2 > Ph: +31651116597 SMS: mzt-sms@cisco.com > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Biggles [mailto:r.koopman0@chello.nl] > > Sent: 30 March 2002 09:17 > > To: simpits-tech@simpits.org > > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] American Fighter Pilot > > > > > > Oke here in Holland we dont get the program. > > Anyone interested to convert the recorded tape to some sort > > of digital file. > > Burn it on a cd and im willing to pay for the costs. > > Only if the material showed is interested enough. > > > > Let the rest of us know if the first episode was any good. > > > > Biggles. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gene Buckle" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 11:24 PM > > Subject: [simpits-tech] American Fighter Pilot > > > > > > > For those of us that have a local CBS Television affiliate, > > the first > > > episode of An American Fighter Pilot premieres tonight at > > 8PM Pacific > > > time. (other timezones may have different start times) > > > > > > The show follows 3 pilot cadets through their training in > > the F-15C at > > > Tyndall AFB. The cinematography will blow your mind. > > Don't miss it! > > > > > > g. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" > > > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Simpits-tech mailing list > > > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > > > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > > > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom > > of the above > > page. Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Simpits-tech mailing list > > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of > > the above page. Thanks! > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sat Mar 30 20:23:36 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (David C. Allen) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 13:23:36 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] Society For Information Display (SID) Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20020330131028.00b8cc18@pop.bois.qwest.net> Hello Everyone Just a reminder to anyone in the group that Society For Information Display (SID) Annual Exhibition will be held @ the Hynes Convention Center in Boston Massachusetts, May 21-23. The price of admission to the Exhibits is $10.00 for all 3 days SID, is where the manufactures of displays show off their products! Check out www.sid.org 500 BOOTHS at this years show! David www.737FlightSim.com From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sat Mar 30 22:30:10 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Davide) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 23:30:10 +0100 Subject: R: [simpits-tech] F-16 simulation parts References: <121.e6a8feb.29d6706f@aol.com> Message-ID: Hi John, Knobs and Dials are really a big trouble at this moment but Marv is working on it The warehouse that is providing those knobs at the most important Aeronautics Firms is the AEROSPACE KNOB CO. subsidiary of DUPREES Inc. reachable trough mail at: sales@dupreeinc.com If i'm not wrong the have a minimum order of 1.000 pz and each knob has a rate near 35 u.s. $ For as regarding the switch-guards you can go to the simpit shop Mr. Clarence Duram sells it at 3 $ each. The only problem is that his switch-guards are for switches in down position. They need to be modified with a driller. Regards Davide www.geocities.com/fox_two_64 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 2:35 AM Subject: [simpits-tech] F-16 simulation parts > Hello, > > I have visited many of your web pages and have been very impressed with the > quality of the craftsmanship. You guys are pretty awesome. > > My project is of lesser caliber and lower budget but I want it to be > upgradeable. > > 1. Does anyone know where to get knobs and dials appropriate to the F-16 > panels? > (there are vendors who charge $1000 for the panels, but I am looking for only > the knobs --for cosmetic reasons.) > 2. How about those red switch guards? (price?) > > John > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sat Mar 30 23:31:34 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Bob Phillips) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 17:31:34 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Re: website References: Message-ID: <000901c1d843$07ee22e0$0200a8c0@BOBS> Yo Gene, Is the website down? I can not seem to surf to it for the last few. Bob "Lumper" Phillips From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sun Mar 31 03:59:09 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Mike King) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 22:59:09 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Mechwarrior 4 sourcecode to be released! :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Holy Cow! This could be a dream come true!! Maybe now I can put all those years of writing code for the man to some good use, like a mech pit! But... Where did you see this tidbit.? -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org]On Behalf Of Ant C Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 8:09 AM To: simpits-tech@simpits.org Subject: [simpits-tech] Mechwarrior 4 sourcecode to be released! :) Hey Mechwarrior fans, things are looking up for for us mechpit builders the full sourcecode to MW4 is about to be released :) maybe we can get a full working cockpit after all check out http://www.dropshipcommand.com for full details ps i hope theres some mech fans that can program, on the list :) _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech@simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sun Mar 31 08:18:13 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Justin Messenger) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 00:18:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] American Fighter Pilot Message-ID: <20020331081813.157.qmail@web10008.mail.yahoo.com> I enjoyed the show. I bet Gene liked it even better, being an F-15 nut and all. I'd love to get my hands on the F-15 sim they showed, I was particularly interested in the visual system it had. it looked like 5 projection screens were attached to the sim to provide an all around view. I bet the young kid gets washed out of the program next week, he was way behind the aircraft in the sim rides. The instructor sure didn't seem impressed with him. Tonight the history channel had a great 14 Tomcat show. I'd love to see some stats on past F-14 vs F-15 engagements and how the crews flew their respective aircraft to try and get the upper hand. I bet if you put the nose of the Tomcat down with its wings swept back it accelerates better than the F-15. Little tid bits like like that are sure to play a huge part in determining the outcome of a dogfight. I find those kind of tactics based on individual aircraft capacity very interesting. Justin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Greetings - send holiday greetings for Easter, Passover http://greetings.yahoo.com/ From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sun Mar 31 09:08:09 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Rob Hommel) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 01:08:09 -0800 Subject: [simpits-tech] American Fighter Pilot References: <20020331081813.157.qmail@web10008.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <012101c1d893$9868c640$16bc1ad0@betty> Justin Gene and myself discussed the show quite a bit today around the shop. We even talked a bit about the sim and the performance of the Eagle VS Tomcat. Were you listening in on our conversation?? If you compare specs alone the Eagle has the edge on the Tomcat. The simulator was quite impressive anyone have a copy of the software they were running, I am certain that given enough money Gene and I could reproduce the projection system it was a rear projection system, They gave a brief glimpse of the three color projectors prior to the clam shell being closed. I was disappointed with the attitude of "Who will be Top Gun?" That was getting to be too much of the "Survivor" style show that Hollywood seems enamored with lately. I however think that we were looking at week one of 110 weeks maybe boner 5 will be able to relocate his cranium. This coming week we get to see the proper way to use a "Barf Bag" be demonstrated in flight. Who will get "to examine his breakfast". (D0 First Flights are coming up for those who did pass both the Sim and the Academics. The film is really enjoyable there are lots of cuts to aircraft in flight, I am looking forward to seeing more of the pilots lounge footage there is a pool game fighter pilots play that I am interested in seeing in action. Keep 'em Flying Rob Hommel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin Messenger" To: Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 12:18 AM Subject: [simpits-tech] American Fighter Pilot > I enjoyed the show. I bet Gene liked it even better, > being an F-15 nut and all. > > I'd love to get my hands on the F-15 sim they showed, > I was particularly interested in the visual system it > had. it looked like 5 projection screens were attached > to the sim to provide an all around view. > > I bet the young kid gets washed out of the program > next week, he was way behind the aircraft in the sim > rides. The instructor sure didn't seem impressed with > him. > > Tonight the history channel had a great 14 Tomcat > show. I'd love to see some stats on past F-14 vs F-15 > engagements and how the crews flew their respective > aircraft to try and get the upper hand. I bet if you > put the nose of the Tomcat down with its wings swept > back it accelerates better than the F-15. Little tid > bits like like that are sure to play a huge part in > determining the outcome of a dogfight. I find those > kind of tactics based on individual aircraft capacity > very interesting. > > > > > Justin > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Greetings - send holiday greetings for Easter, Passover > http://greetings.yahoo.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech@simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sun Mar 31 09:47:28 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Rob Hommel) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 01:47:28 -0800 Subject: [simpits-tech] F16 Cockpit news References: <20020331081813.157.qmail@web10008.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <014001c1d899$128b4ec0$16bc1ad0@betty> Honeywell Named to Provide F-16 Fighting Falcon Avionics Upgrade Lockheed Martin Tactical Aircraft Systems recently selected Honeywell Defense Avionics Systems to develop a four-inch by four-inch, color, multifunctional display unit for the F-16 that will be a key part of the Common Configuration Implementation Program undertaken by the U.S. Air Force. Under the terms of the $20-million contract, Honeywell will build a lower cost version of the MFD display, as well as supplying a faster display processor, enhanced graphics capability and more MIL-1553 local area network channels. Almost 700 Block 40 and 50 F-16 aircraft will be upgraded. The above information comes from aviation week Keep 'em Flying Rob Hommel From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sun Mar 31 10:24:54 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Sean Galbraith) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 22:24:54 +1200 Subject: [simpits-tech] American Fighter Pilot In-Reply-To: <012101c1d893$9868c640$16bc1ad0@betty> References: <20020331081813.157.qmail@web10008.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020331221931.0258c3b0@pop3.paradise.net.nz> At 01:08 AM 3/31/02 -0800, you wrote: >Justin > >Gene and myself discussed the show quite a bit today around the shop. We >even talked a bit about the sim and the performance of the Eagle VS Tomcat. >Were you listening in on our conversation?? If you compare specs alone the >Eagle has the edge on the Tomcat. Except that the Eagle has only 50% of the optical-close-in-detection-and-decision-making hardware.... I saw a documentary from the other side of one of those engagements once... the Tomcat drivers figured that they were outnumbered 2:1 by Eagles so they should be about an even match.... then they would say that, wouldn't they :) On the F4s_forever list there was a discussion about the whole 1 vs 1 who's gonna win thing. A couple of Marines (a driver and a RIO) telling stories of how they won some very one sided-on-paper engagements in their F-4's. Basically it came down to who had the best tactical awareness. Old age and cunning vs youth and enthusiasm they said :) Oh and they were talking F-4 vs F-15, F-16 etc.... Good discussion to eavesdrop on! Sean From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sun Mar 31 11:51:48 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Stig Joergensen) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 13:51:48 +0200 Subject: [simpits-tech] American Fighter Pilot Message-ID: <1463224A44C62243973321FB317A34E10F91@exchange.clearsky.dk> But did anybody tape it...... so it could be converted to a digital media for the rest of us? /Stig From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sun Mar 31 13:40:13 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Alan D. Mazurka) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 08:40:13 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] American Fighter Pilot In-Reply-To: <012101c1d893$9868c640$16bc1ad0@betty> References: <20020331081813.157.qmail@web10008.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020331083510.00a31c70@mail.verizon.net> --=====================_3263827==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed hi, the show had that techno-edit-new-short-attention-span, shocker-type look that seems to characterize the new style of american entertainment. i felt it demoted these fine men to "survivor" status, too. unfortunately, i found myself reaching for my own barf bag way too early in the show, turned it off, and did something else. probably my loss, but i just couldn't keep watching. - adm - At 01:08 AM 3/31/02 -0800, you wrote: >I was disappointed with the attitude of "Who will be Top Gun?" That was >getting to be too much of the "Survivor" style show that Hollywood seems >enamored with lately. ---------- Alan D. Mazurka Webspace Design & Implementation adm.design@verizon.net --=====================_3263827==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" hi,

the show had that techno-edit-new-short-attention-span, shocker-type look that seems to characterize the new style of american entertainment. i felt it demoted these fine men to "survivor" status, too.

unfortunately, i found myself reaching for my own barf bag way too early in the show, turned it off, and did something else.

probably my loss, but i just couldn't keep watching.

 - adm -

At 01:08 AM 3/31/02 -0800, you wrote:
I was disappointed with the attitude of "Who will be Top Gun?" That was
getting to be too much of the "Survivor" style show that Hollywood seems
enamored with lately.


Alan D. Mazurka                    Webspace Design & Implementation
adm.design@verizon.net    
--=====================_3263827==_.ALT-- From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sun Mar 31 15:40:49 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Ant C) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 15:40:49 +0000 Subject: [simpits-tech] Mechwarrior 4 sourcecode to be released! :) Message-ID: sorry forgot to mention it was in the primary comms in the MW4 section of dropship command the actual article is on www.mektek.net here it is http://www.mektek.net/article.php?sid=1062&mode=&order=0&thold=0 looking more like it might be an early aprils fools though, shame :( really bad joke if it is >From: "Mike King" >Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org >To: >Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] Mechwarrior 4 sourcecode to be released! :) >Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 22:59:09 -0500 > >Holy Cow! >This could be a dream come true!! >Maybe now I can put all those years of writing code for the man to some >good >use, like a mech pit! > >But... >Where did you see this tidbit.? > >-----Original Message----- >From: simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org >[mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org]On Behalf Of Ant C >Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 8:09 AM >To: simpits-tech@simpits.org >Subject: [simpits-tech] Mechwarrior 4 sourcecode to be released! :) > > >Hey Mechwarrior fans, things are looking up for for us mechpit builders >the full sourcecode to MW4 is about to be released :) >maybe we can get a full working cockpit after all > >check out http://www.dropshipcommand.com for full details > >ps i hope theres some mech fans that can program, on the list :) > >_________________________________________________________________ >MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: >http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > >_______________________________________________ >Simpits-tech mailing list >Simpits-tech@simpits.org >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above >page. >Thanks! > >_______________________________________________ >Simpits-tech mailing list >Simpits-tech@simpits.org >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above >page. Thanks! _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sun Mar 31 16:08:37 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (David Lawley) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 11:08:37 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] American Fighter Pilot In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020331083510.00a31c70@mail.verizon.net> Message-ID: <000201c1d8ce$514a2200$02010a0a@vlogic> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C1D8A4.68768B00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Funny you should say this but my wife and I both felt the same thing, survivor (which I have not watched the last 2). But I suppose you have to understand the target audience. At what point do you get it too technical that it goes over everyone's head, or keep it entertaining enough to appeal to a mass audience. I think its worth a couple of more tries. -----Original Message----- hi, the show had that techno-edit-new-short-attention-span, shocker-type look that seems to characterize the new style of american entertainment. i felt it demoted these fine men to "survivor" status, too. ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C1D8A4.68768B00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Funny you should say this but my = wife and I both felt the same thing, survivor (which I have not watched the last = 2).

 

But I suppose you have to = understand the target audience.  At what point do you get it too technical that it = goes over everyone’s head, or keep it entertaining enough to appeal to = a mass audience.

 

I think its worth a couple of more = tries.

 

 

-----Original = Message-----
 

hi,

the show had that techno-edit-new-short-attention-span, shocker-type = look that seems to characterize the new style of american entertainment. i felt it demoted these fine men to "survivor" status, too.

 

------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C1D8A4.68768B00-- From simpits-tech@simpits.org Sun Mar 31 16:37:03 2002 From: simpits-tech@simpits.org (Ant C) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 16:37:03 +0000 Subject: [simpits-tech] Mechwarrior 4 sourcecode to be released! :) Message-ID: on another note, look at this mech sim for the xbox its called tekki and it has its own massive controller built for it from the looks of it my mech pit is half built already :) go here http://gamespot.com/gamespot/filters/products/0,11114,554980,00.html just look at that controller :) >From: "Mike King" >Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org >To: >Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] Mechwarrior 4 sourcecode to be released! :) >Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 22:59:09 -0500 > >Holy Cow! >This could be a dream come true!! >Maybe now I can put all those years of writing code for the man to some >good >use, like a mech pit! > >But... >Where did you see this tidbit.? > >-----Original Message----- >From: simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org >[mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org]On Behalf Of Ant C >Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 8:09 AM >To: simpits-tech@simpits.org >Subject: [simpits-tech] Mechwarrior 4 sourcecode to be released! :) > > >Hey Mechwarrior fans, things are looking up for for us mechpit builders >the full sourcecode to MW4 is about to be released :) >maybe we can get a full working cockpit after all > >check out http://www.dropshipcommand.com for full details > >ps i hope theres some mech fans that can program, on the list :) > >_________________________________________________________________ >MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: >http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > >_______________________________________________ >Simpits-tech mailing list >Simpits-tech@simpits.org >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above >page. >Thanks! > >_______________________________________________ >Simpits-tech mailing list >Simpits-tech@simpits.org >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above >page. 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It's up now..... Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ant C" To: Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 10:40 AM Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] Mechwarrior 4 sourcecode to be released! :) > sorry forgot to mention it was in the primary comms in the MW4 section of > dropship command > the actual article is on www.mektek.net > here it is > > http://www.mektek.net/article.php?sid=1062&mode=&order=0&thold=0 > > looking more like it might be an early aprils fools though, shame :( > really bad joke if it is > > >From: "Mike King" > >Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org > >To: > >Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] Mechwarrior 4 sourcecode to be released! :) > >Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 22:59:09 -0500 > > > >Holy Cow! > >This could be a dream come true!! > >Maybe now I can put all those years of writing code for the man to some > >good > >use, like a mech pit! > > > >But... > >Where did you see this tidbit.? > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org > >[mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org]On Behalf Of Ant C > >Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 8:09 AM > >To: simpits-tech@simpits.org > >Subject: [simpits-tech] Mechwarrior 4 sourcecode to be released! :) > > > > > >Hey Mechwarrior fans, things are looking up for for us mechpit builders > >the full sourcecode to MW4 is about to be released :) > >maybe we can get a full working cockpit after all > > > >check out http://www.dropshipcommand.com for full details > > > >ps i hope theres some mech fans that can program, on the list :) > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > >http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Simpits-tech mailing list > >Simpits-tech@simpits.org > >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > >page. > >Thanks! > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Simpits-tech mailing list > >Simpits-tech@simpits.org > >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > >page. 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