[simpits-tech] About F16 angle console....

Mon, 10 Jun 2002 07:18:25 -0500

HI Rob,

I know the feeling of awe and wonder at touching feeling smelling a real
cockpit. My F-111F Crew Escape Module ( one of three I have) ejected in 1993
in New Mexico. Before that it had almost 20 years of service all round the
world, ending up in the gulf back in 91. Its been in combat, its been scary
places and its saved two mens life. All that comes to you when you sit in
it....its good inspiration!

As for the ADI (etc) movements, I am not sure of any other methods than what
Matt has done. I gave him seveal Air Data Computers from which he has
harvested a bunch of D to A converters ( they look like little chrome
biscuits) and we are constantly looking for more. My cockpit is going to
suck up a bunch of them due it its intense set of instrumentation. Right now
I am running 115 400hz single phase, 28v and 5v plus 110 in my cockpit. I
have no choice, but it sounds wicked!
Most of the mechanical gaugues ( ADI,HSI,Veritcal tapes, Lead Computing
Optical sight,stanby instruments, engine instruments, warning lights, flood
lights, all edge lighting is functional. I can manually drive the
instruments in demo, but they are not yet hooked to Epic. That will require
another Matt Visit ( and some beer ; )
If any miricles to operating ADIs with out those modules comes up Ill be the
first one to post it here!

Thanks,

Chris Woodul

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Hommel" <rhommel@tacoma.net>
To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] About F16 angle console....

> Chris you may post the data yourself visit http://www.simpits.org and look
> for the link on the main page for FTP site instructions for any operations
> maybe found there. If you find yourself in trouble send an email to Gene
he
> would be very happy to help you out.
>
> I am a bit like you often finding myself at awe with the very fact that
some
> of these folks have done so much often with so little. I found myself
> yesterday standing there working on that pesky F-15 of Genes simply going
> onto myself for a moment, that's an F-15. Gene and I more often than
perhaps
> we would like to admit do just that stop and stare at the damn thing.
>
> My little brother (Gene, says he feels like he should say "sir" to my
> brother)spent 20 years working on the F-16(weapon systems) in the Air
Force,
> I really don't think he see's the fun in building a simulator.
>
> Any hints on getting syncro's (ADI's etc)working for cheap. I know how
Matt
> has done it but not all of us have the access to the parts he does. 400 Hz
> power and digital to syncro converters are expensive. Not being a
commercial
> enterprise restricts us in some of our efforts.
>
> Keep 'em Flying
> Rob Hommel
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Woodul" <crewstation1@charter.net>
> To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 8:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] About F16 angle console....
>
>
> > Hi Rob,
> >
> > Thank you for your words. I am honored to be here. I will clean up some
> > data, and send them to you or Gene or whomever you think can post this
> data
> > to the site. I think that this data will be quite useful. The funny part
> is,
> > so many of us have found access to the jet. Its all there right in front
> of
> > us. I just happen to work with them professionally, and happen to be
> located
> > in the town where the things are made.
> > I have worked on High Fidelity Simulated ( and flight worthy)
F-16s..the
> > following models:
> > F-16A Block 15
> > F-16C Block 40
> > F-16C Block 50/52
> > F-16C Blcok 60
> > F-16MLU
> >
> > ( lots of other aircraft platforms too, but we have lots of Viper fans
> here)
> >
> > I also have a V-22 instrument panel and glaresheild with a center
> pedestal,
> > that I would like to do something simulated with..but I dont know of any
> > software yet that supports that kind of flight. Any ideas out there? Any
> > thing that I have missed?
> >
> > I look forward to seeing every post that comes into my computer. Its
quite
> > addictive! I knew about this website for a long time, but I let my level
> of
> > activity at work preclude me from joining-------Big mistake. I really
> enjoy
> > the sense of comunity, even the sense of jelously ( which I often
suffer)
> my
> > remedy for the jelousy is to befriend folks with cool toys so that I may
> > indeed play with them!
> > I know lots of folks with Vipers that I need to fly ( I did fly Phasers
a
> > couple of weeks ago)
> > Genes F-15 is really kicking ass!
> > Matt Wietlespachs Masterpiece speaks for itself!
> > and all those incredible 737's and other comercial jets are calling my
> name
> > out.
> >
> > Justin has sat in my F-111F simulator with the power turned on, and the
> Air
> > conditioning and cooling fans running. That plus the sound of the Gyros
> > running is a great feeling...dimming all the lights in the cockpit when
> the
> > room is dark is something great to experience...but I have not had the
> time
> > to make it all ready to fly just yet.
> > Hence my joining this group. I am going to get it fully flying in the
next
> > year or two if it kills me. I also have to pick a software package that
> will
> > support my strange aircraft ( read: lots of gauges and those pesky swing
> > wings)
> > I want to watch a runway disapear under my nose and turn out in full
> burner
> > in my pit so bad I cant stand it.
> > But as we all know, in this fanatacal hobby, patience is a virtue ( so
is
> > being single, but I failed that one on my wedding day)
> >
> > Cheers to all and I look forward to those posts coming in!
> >
> > Chris Woodul
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rob Hommel" <rhommel@tacoma.net>
> > To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 10:04 PM
> > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] About F16 angle console....
> >
> >
> > > Chris:
> > >
> > > The Simpits FTP site contains a great deal of information including
> > cockpit
> > > drawings of various aircraft. Gene has placed a great deal of effort
in
> > this
> > > FTP site for the benefit of all members of the Simpits Community. The
> > > uploading of images/files such as are being discussed to the FTP site
> > would
> > > perhaps be the best place to make it available to all members of the
> > group.
> > > Their is a caveat, we cannot say that the company being discussed
cannot
> > > ever get access to this information. If they are interested in
obtaining
> > > this information their are other means of obtaining it. The Simpits
> Group
> > is
> > > only a very small one, in a sea of others. If you can get this
> information
> > > others may as well.
> > >
> > > To the person who first requested this information, if you have not
done
> > so
> > > please check the FTP site to see if this information is already
> available.
> > A
> > > request such as this may have already been answered, I seem to
remember
> a
> > > previous discussion on a similar topic.  New members to the Simpits
> > > community or those unfamiliar to the FTP site please take the time to
> > > familiarize yourself with this valuable resource.
> > >
> > > I await the FAQ that has been mentioned to become available, and for
> some
> > > person to come forward to take over the maintenance of the web site.
Any
> > > takers?
> > >
> > > The Simpits Community is not here to bash any company but we have
always
> > had
> > > a keen interest in any rumor that affects our avocation or
> vocation.Please
> > > take it that way, just the same there does seem to be a story in there
> > > someplace that I for one would love to hear.
> > >
> > > Chris, as you have no doubt learned by now not all traffic within the
> > group
> > > is on-topic, there is a fair amount of kidding that takes place, some
> > > jealousy and envy as well. Some of the membership I am still in awe of
> > after
> > > all this time. There has been rumor that Bert Betran has looked in
upon
> > the
> > > group as well as the major league players in the aviation industry,
> > > commercial and general aviation and high performance aircraft as well.
> The
> > > software manufactures are interested in the group some of the
membership
> > has
> > > beta tested software's and other have created ad on's to existing
> > > software's.
> > >
> > > Membership in this group is much like any community their are folks
who
> > are
> > > less than honest and would steal from the group and not contribute but
> the
> > > good ones make up for this.Prior to being a member into this group you
> > > contributed to the group now as a member we welcome your contributions
> and
> > > your own brand of humor to keep us amused.
> > >
> > > Keep 'em Flying
> > > Rob Hommel
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Chris Woodul" <crewstation1@charter.net>
> > > To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> > > Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 5:11 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] About F16 angle console....
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi Gene and Group,
> > > >
> > > > I do not wish to affect anyones dealing with any company one way or
> > > another.
> > > > My goals here are fisrtly becuase I am an avid sim builder and
fanatic
> > for
> > > > cockpits and seats. I am not here as a representative of any company
(
> > > > including where I work) In fact, my market place is the High End
> > > market...I
> > > > do have many frineds in the Home Pitting world and many of them help
> me
> > > with
> > > > my project. I cannot do this alone. I totally belive in the sharing
of
> > > good
> > > > ideas when it is prudent.
> > > > As a rational person though I felt I had to make the statement that
I
> > > > did.....I cannot ignore scenarios that affect me personally. Please
> take
> > > all
> > > > comments I make with a grain of salt.
> > > > In the mean time, I have lots of great access and data that I think
> can
> > be
> > > > useful to this group, just as the group does in return to me, Thats
> what
> > > > makes this disscussion board work.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Chris
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Gene Buckle" <geneb@deltasoft.com>
> > > > To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 1:11 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] About F16 angle console....
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > builders. But it is very important that this information does
not
> > end
> > > up
> > > > > > at a company called Hi Rev Sims. I am tired of unwittingly
> providing
> > > > > > them with information. My work Email is cwoodul@fain.com I am a
> > > simpits
> > > > >
> > > > > Hehehe.  Therein lies many a problem Chris.  How can we (as a
group)
> > > > > provide data to each other without some corporate wonk coming
> through
> > > and
> > > > > sifting through it?  We really can't.  HOWEVER, we can ensure that
> no
> > > one
> > > > > buys their junk. :)  Keep in mind that there are over 300 people
on
> > this
> > > > > list and to a company that builds sim parts for a home market,
it's
> a
> > > > > pretty significant customer base to piss off. :)  If Hi Rev isn't
on
> > the
> > > > > up and up, I'm sure folks here would just _love_ to hear about it.
> :)
> > > > >
> > > > > g.
> > > > >
> > > > >
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