[simpits-tech] Servo Driven Gauges and MFD/HUD data
Chris
simpits-tech@simpits.org
Sun, 9 Jun 2002 08:26:59 -0400
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If the G2I plan is to provide multi monitor support, couldn't there be one
view with MFD's that are rendered all the time, and others (HUD Mode)
without? I probably don't understand what G2 means by multi montor support.
I am just curious (not impatient) and trying to be helpful, I am not even
close to being able to make use of this. Thanks for your hard work Erwin and
by the way I am very impressed with your software!!!
Chris Crowley
-----Original Message-----
From: simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org
[mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org]On Behalf Of Erwin Neyt
Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 4:36 AM
To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] Servo Driven Gauges and MFD/HUD data
Problem is that if the MFD's are not onscreen, they will not be rendered
at all.
What we want is MFD data which is rendered all the time (for example we
we're in HUD only mode)
Erwin.
BTW. I can't say much but I am in contact with G2I concerning this
subject. Please be patient.
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris [mailto:ccrowley@mccrowley.com]
Sent: Saturday, 08 June, 2002 12:31
To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] Servo Driven Gauges and MFD/HUD data
Why is this feature so complicated? The MFDs show up in the Black boxes
that are located in the "virtual cockpits". If you have ever looked at the
virtual cockpit graphics, all of the gauges are blacked out so the software
can generate the flight info in the black areas. Somehow a function places
them in a position that is "cut out" for them. It varies from virtual
cockpit to virtual cockpit, or even from view to view.
Now if they are adding multiple monitor capability, why not have a view
that is just the LEFT and one that is just the right MFD? This would be
simpler than pulling the raw data out of the code.
This is a question, I am sure its more complicated than that.
Chris Crowley
(Building Viper Pit)
-----Original Message-----
From: simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org
[mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org]On Behalf Of Marc Weigert
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 7:35 PM
To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
Subject: AW: [simpits-tech] Servo Driven Gauges and MFD/HUD data
Hello Joseph,
thanks for your answer!
So it looks as if there is a vague chance that we will see this
feature in the future!
Is it so complicated for them to do this, or is it just a matter of
focusing on features that the broad simulation comunity will appreaciate?
Cheers,
Marc
To answer your question Marc, I asked him (G2I Guy) and his response
was there is no current way to display that data. We (myself and others)
asked that they make it available for output anyway and we’ll figure out a
way to display it. So I don’t know if it will be output or not. This guy
(Claude 'shadow' Cavanaugh President and CEO of G2I) and his email
shadow@g2interactive.com seems real open to answering questions and has an
EPIC system himself and tells me they/he is currently working on a mode to
interface the EPIC and Cougar. So I hold out hope there will be MFD/HUD
data.
Crease-guard
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D110271712-09062002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>If the=20
G2I plan is to provide multi monitor support, couldn't there be one view =
with=20
MFD's that are rendered all the time, and others (HUD =
Mode) without? I=20
probably don't understand what G2 means by multi montor support.=20
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D110271712-09062002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D110271712-09062002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>I am=20
just curious (not impatient) and trying to be helpful, I am not even =
close to=20
being able to make use of this. Thanks for your hard work Erwin and by =
the way I=20
am very impressed with your software!!!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D110271712-09062002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D110271712-09062002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Chris=20
Crowley</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org =
[mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org]<B>On=20
Behalf Of </B>Erwin Neyt<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, June 09, 2002 4:36=20
AM<BR><B>To:</B> simpits-tech@simpits.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:=20
[simpits-tech] Servo Driven Gauges and MFD/HUD =
data<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D045292708-09062002>Problem is that if the MFD's are not =
onscreen, they=20
will not be rendered at all.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D045292708-09062002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D045292708-09062002>What=20
we want is MFD data which is rendered all the time (for example we =
we're in=20
HUD only mode)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D045292708-09062002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D045292708-09062002>Erwin.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D045292708-09062002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D045292708-09062002>BTW.=20
I can't say much but I am in contact with G2I concerning this=20
subject. Please be patient.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Chris=20
[mailto:ccrowley@mccrowley.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, 08 June, =
2002=20
12:31<BR><B>To:</B> simpits-tech@simpits.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:=20
[simpits-tech] Servo Driven Gauges and MFD/HUD =
data<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D720442510-08062002>Why is this feature so complicated? The =
MFDs show=20
up in the Black boxes that are located in the "virtual cockpits". If =
you=20
have ever looked at the virtual cockpit graphics, all of the gauges =
are=20
blacked out so the software can generate the flight info in the =
black areas.=20
Somehow a function places them in a position that is "cut out" for =
them. It=20
varies from virtual cockpit to virtual cockpit, or even from view to =
view.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D720442510-08062002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D720442510-08062002>Now if they are adding multiple monitor =
capability,=20
why not have a view that is just the LEFT and one that is just the =
right=20
MFD? This would be simpler than pulling the raw data out of the=20
code.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D720442510-08062002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D720442510-08062002>This is a question, I am sure its more =
complicated=20
than that. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D720442510-08062002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D720442510-08062002>Chris Crowley</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D720442510-08062002>(Building Viper Pit)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org=20
[mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Marc=20
Weigert<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 07, 2002 7:35 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
simpits-tech@simpits.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> AW: [simpits-tech] =
Servo=20
Driven Gauges and MFD/HUD data<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff><SPAN class=3D434440523-07062002><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
color=3D#000000>Hello=20
Joseph,</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
color=3D#000000><SPAN=20
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class=3D434440523-07062002></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D+0><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff><SPAN class=3D434440523-07062002>thanks for your=20
answer!</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D+0><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff><SPAN=20
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class=3D434440523-07062002></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D+0><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff><SPAN class=3D434440523-07062002>So it looks as if =
there is a=20
vague chance that we will see this feature in the future!=20
</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D+0><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff><SPAN=20
=
class=3D434440523-07062002></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV=
>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D+0><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff><SPAN class=3D434440523-07062002>Is it so =
complicated for them=20
to do this, or is it just a matter of focusing on features that =
the broad=20
simulation comunity will=20
appreaciate?</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D+0><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff><SPAN=20
=
class=3D434440523-07062002></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV=
>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D+0><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff><SPAN=20
=
class=3D434440523-07062002>Cheers,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DI=
V>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D+0><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff><SPAN=20
=
class=3D434440523-07062002></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D+0><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff><SPAN=20
class=3D434440523-07062002>Marc</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">To answer =
your=20
question Marc, I asked him (G2I Guy) and his response was there =
is no=20
current way to display that data. We (myself and others) =
asked=20
that they make it available for output anyway and we=92ll figure =
out a way=20
to display it. So I don=92t know if it will be output or =
not. =20
This guy (Claude 'shadow' Cavanaugh President and CEO of G2I) =
and his=20
email <A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:shadow@g2interactive.com">shadow@g2interactive.com</A>=20
seems real open to answering questions and has an EPIC system =
himself=20
and tells me they/he is currently working on a mode to interface =
the=20
EPIC and Cougar. So I hold out hope there will be MFD/HUD=20
data.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
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