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Darren Beaumont simpits-tech@simpits.org
Wed, 20 Feb 2002 20:08:28 -0000


Justin,

That could be one of the Harriers over here, UK, that was for sale for a
mere ?15000, minus the engine and avionics.  There were a few for sale, one
was only built in 1986 and had very few hours on it.  As far as I know, a
few headed out to the US, for restoration to flying condition.

I dread to think how much a second hand and servceable Peagasus engine will
cost, if he could get one, probably well into the millions.

I know that for a while you could pick up a complete airframe, such as a
Hunter, Jet Provost, Lightning with engine/avionics for a few thousand
pounds.  But flying them was something else.  There was an article in a
magazine 10 or so years ago, about how to buy one of these.  You buy a jet
for say ?8000.  To get the thing flying, was anything from ?30,000 to well
into the millions.  Then once you get past that hurdle, you could be looking
from ?300 to well into the thousands per hour, to fly the thing.

Darren



-----Original Message-----
From: simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org
[mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org]On Behalf Of Justin Messenger
Sent: 20 February 2002 18:50
To: Simpits-tech@simpits.org
Subject: [simpits-tech] (no subject)


I've seen lots of people who fly MiG-15 or 17's, but
not many fly 21's that I know of. I'm sure they really
guzzle the fuel with their old afterburner engines.

I wonder what his Harrier cost him. Of course, someone
like him is sure to have good connections to get
special deals at nice prices. I bet most of the
Hunters came from central or south America. There are
lots of old fighters to be found down there.
Justin

-----

Yes, it is amazing to see things like that, however,
the MiG is cheaper
to buy than you might think.  You could buy a new car
(like a BMW) or
import a MiG instead.  In a relative sense, they're a
dime a dozen.

Owning one is not such a big deal, but maintaining and
flying one will
separate the men from the boys.  ;-)

For those less heeled, fractional ownership can be a
way to reduce your
costs.  It is sort of like vacation time-share.  This
is a very popular
and "affordable" means to get into any aircraft.

Marv

On Wednesday, February 20, 2002, at 01:33 AM, Justin
Messenger wrote:

> Apparently, some people CAN afford it. When I was
> looking at the DC-8's in Tulsa I noticed a few
> MIG-21's, a few Hawker Hunters, some jet trainers,
and
> a British built Harrier. I could tell these planes
> were being restored into flying condition and some
> were down for maintenence. I figured they belong to
a
> museum, but it turns out they are the private
> collection of a rich man named Victor Miller. He
> collects and restores jet fighters so he can fly
them.
> He's even had a contract with the Air Force to fly
his
> MiGs at Red Flag so the AF pilots can practice
> spotting MiGs visually!
>
> There are about 10 fighter in Tulsa that are getting
> worked on, all his flyable fighters he flew down to
> Florida where he is moving his operation to.
>
> One of the Mig's had a patch that said the Aero
Group
> on it, that might be the name of his little set up.
> the patch also said "wolf pack Aggressors" on it, so
I
> bet the plane has flown at red flag.
>
> It was amazing. And Expensive!
> Justin


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