[simpits-tech] RE: F-16 flight
Marv De Beque
simpits-tech@simpits.org
Sun, 29 Dec 2002 10:14:00 -0500
Yeah, and I would think that a doctor should get a ride just to see the
effects of a circumcision under G loading.
Marv
On 12/29/02 10:08 AM, "James Hallows" <nutty@flyfoxy.com> wrote:
> Wait a minute ..... let's not forget about the effects of flying different
> combat aircraft on pilot's teeth as well. That's got to be worth a ride or
> two for me. And given that I'm also a Materials Scientist, I can do some in
> flight testing/measurements on other aspects of the aircraft.
>
> Man I fancy my chances now !!!
>
> No?
>
> Damn! Ok back to my PC sims then.
>
> James
>
>> There you go Doc!
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Joseph Fagner" <crease-guard@attbi.com>
>> To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 10:35 PM
>> Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] RE: F-16 flight
>>
>>
>>> Hey Chris, tell them you need some outside Civilian medical opinions too
>>> so I can score a ride. F-18, 16, 4, 14 don't care which one it is.
>>>
>>> Jay
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org
>>> [mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org] On Behalf Of Chris Woodul
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 10:06 PM
>>> To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
>>> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] RE: F-16 flight
>>>
>>> Hi Brian,
>>>
>>> Like anything else, I cannot claim to be 100 percent right on this, but
>>> I
>>> did have lots of involvement with that system in the 1997-1998 time
>>> frame,
>>> and I did study the bird before, during and after. The two seater that
>>> they
>>> had was kind of cool cause they used the single seat transparancy cut in
>>> a
>>> special way to be used in a NEW metal frame for the back seat canopy. If
>>> you
>>> look at a picture of one, the back seat canopy is tapered much smaller
>>> than
>>> the front, so its really a clever cost saving utilization of an existing
>>> design. There could have been some de-mothballing of this jet during or
>>> right after the gulf war and this lucky woman ended up getting a ride.
>>> I am currently working a contract for my companies G-Cueing NACES seat
>>> that
>>> we do in partnership with Cranfield Aerospace in the UK. I am trying to
>>> work
>>> a flight in a USN Test Pilots School F/A-18 to feel some of the subltle
>>> nuances of "G"pressures exerted on a pilots body during certain
>>> manuvers.....but really, I just want another Jet
>>> Flight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>> ; )
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Brian Sikkema" <hangr18@hotmail.com>
>>> To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 9:51 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] RE: F-16 flight
>>>
>>>
>>>> Interesting stuff, Chris! You've got me doubting it a bit more, but it
>>> still
>>>> seems to stick out in my memory that it was a ride in an A-10... Of
>>> course
>>>> there's no way to check on the news report, it was so long ago that I
>>> can
>>>> barely remember... I seem to recall it was around the Gulf War. But if
>>> it
>>> is
>>>> true that it was grounded 18 years ago, then I must be wrong, no way
>>> do I
>>>> remember that from when I was 1! Heheh. But if it were <10 or so, then
>>> I
>>> may
>>>> still be right. Or I may be completely full of it, both have been
>>> known to
>>>> happen from time to time! :)
>>>>
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>> ----Original Message Follows----
>>>> From: "Chris Woodul" <crewstation1@charter.net>
>>>> Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
>>>> To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] RE: F-16 flight
>>>> Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 21:44:19 -0600
>>>>
>>>> Hi Brian,
>>>>
>>>> The two seater was around back in the late seventies when the A-10 was
>>> in
>>>> Production. I think it ended up at Edwards for an attempt at making
>>> the
>>>> backseaters station a dedicated WSO position ( after the trainer
>>> version
>>>> failed) but then that idea died as well. That two seater probably has
>>> not
>>>> flown in 18 years?? I cant confirm this right off the bat. Until the
>>> 1990
>>>> invasion of Kuwait the A-10 itself was on its last legs. The USAF did
>>> not
>>>> want it. All the flight simulators were scraped and sold off in the
>>> late
>>>> 80's. I worked on the UTD ( Unit Training Device) and in the process I
>>> ended
>>>> up getting to keep an A-10A cockpit section that was cut off a real
>>> A-10
>>> at
>>>> Davis Monthan AFB ( AMARC) in Tuscon Az. I was thrilled cause they
>>> thought
>>>> that the cockpit was a piece of scrap that had no more use to them
>>> since
>>>> they had already reverse engineered it. I ended up trading it to a
>>> friend
>>> in
>>>> California who still has it today. I also got to see the plane they
>>> cut
>>> off
>>>> the cockpit from at DM in person. They had the front end proped up on
>>> Wooden
>>>> crates to keep it level since it had no nose gear ( or nose for that
>>> matter)
>>>> It was almost a 16 foot long cockpit section with the titanium bathtub
>>> in
>>> it
>>>> and the canopy etc. When at DMAFB that time I did look for the two
>>> seat
>>> A-10
>>>> in the rows but did not see it. It may reside at the Edwards AFB
>>> musuem in
>>>> California.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Brian Sikkema" <hangr18@hotmail.com>
>>>> To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 9:23 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] RE: F-16 flight
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> 90% sure. This was some years ago... any idea when exactly it was
>>>>> mothballed?
>>>>>
>>>>> Brian
>>>>>
>>>>> ----Original Message Follows----
>>>>> From: "Chris Woodul" <crewstation1@charter.net>
>>>>> Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
>>>>> To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] RE: F-16 flight
>>>>> Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 21:15:48 -0600
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you sure? there was only one Two seat A-10 and it was a
>>> Fairchild
>>>> 'One
>>>>> Off' becuase the Hog was so easy to fly that the airforce found no
>>> need
>>>> for
>>>>> a two seat coversion trainer. The only one I know of has not flown
>>> in
>>>> many
>>>>> years and is in storage.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Brian Sikkema" <hangr18@hotmail.com>
>>>>> To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 8:06 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] RE: F-16 flight
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've heard of celebs getting flights before (hell a local TV
>>>> Anchorwoman
>>>>>> managed to score a flight in one of the VERY few 2-seat A-10's
>>> out
>>>> there,
>>>>> I
>>>>>> still wanna know how that happened), but firing a sidewinder?
>>> PILOTS
>>>>> don't
>>>>>> get to do that very often!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brian
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Somehow he scored a ride in viper and got to fly, pull 9G's and
>>> fire
>>>> off
>>>>> a
>>>>>>> sidewinder.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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