[simpits-tech] RE: F-16 flight
Chris Woodul
simpits-tech@simpits.org
Sun, 29 Dec 2002 08:52:01 -0600
There you go Doc!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Fagner" <crease-guard@attbi.com>
To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 10:35 PM
Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] RE: F-16 flight
> Hey Chris, tell them you need some outside Civilian medical opinions too
> so I can score a ride. F-18, 16, 4, 14 don't care which one it is.
>
> Jay
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org
> [mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org] On Behalf Of Chris Woodul
> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 10:06 PM
> To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] RE: F-16 flight
>
> Hi Brian,
>
> Like anything else, I cannot claim to be 100 percent right on this, but
> I
> did have lots of involvement with that system in the 1997-1998 time
> frame,
> and I did study the bird before, during and after. The two seater that
> they
> had was kind of cool cause they used the single seat transparancy cut in
> a
> special way to be used in a NEW metal frame for the back seat canopy. If
> you
> look at a picture of one, the back seat canopy is tapered much smaller
> than
> the front, so its really a clever cost saving utilization of an existing
> design. There could have been some de-mothballing of this jet during or
> right after the gulf war and this lucky woman ended up getting a ride.
> I am currently working a contract for my companies G-Cueing NACES seat
> that
> we do in partnership with Cranfield Aerospace in the UK. I am trying to
> work
> a flight in a USN Test Pilots School F/A-18 to feel some of the subltle
> nuances of "G"pressures exerted on a pilots body during certain
> manuvers.....but really, I just want another Jet
> Flight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> ; )
>
> Chris
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian Sikkema" <hangr18@hotmail.com>
> To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 9:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] RE: F-16 flight
>
>
> > Interesting stuff, Chris! You've got me doubting it a bit more, but it
> still
> > seems to stick out in my memory that it was a ride in an A-10... Of
> course
> > there's no way to check on the news report, it was so long ago that I
> can
> > barely remember... I seem to recall it was around the Gulf War. But if
> it
> is
> > true that it was grounded 18 years ago, then I must be wrong, no way
> do I
> > remember that from when I was 1! Heheh. But if it were <10 or so, then
> I
> may
> > still be right. Or I may be completely full of it, both have been
> known to
> > happen from time to time! :)
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > ----Original Message Follows----
> > From: "Chris Woodul" <crewstation1@charter.net>
> > Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> > To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] RE: F-16 flight
> > Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 21:44:19 -0600
> >
> > Hi Brian,
> >
> > The two seater was around back in the late seventies when the A-10 was
> in
> > Production. I think it ended up at Edwards for an attempt at making
> the
> > backseaters station a dedicated WSO position ( after the trainer
> version
> > failed) but then that idea died as well. That two seater probably has
> not
> > flown in 18 years?? I cant confirm this right off the bat. Until the
> 1990
> > invasion of Kuwait the A-10 itself was on its last legs. The USAF did
> not
> > want it. All the flight simulators were scraped and sold off in the
> late
> > 80's. I worked on the UTD ( Unit Training Device) and in the process I
> ended
> > up getting to keep an A-10A cockpit section that was cut off a real
> A-10
> at
> > Davis Monthan AFB ( AMARC) in Tuscon Az. I was thrilled cause they
> thought
> > that the cockpit was a piece of scrap that had no more use to them
> since
> > they had already reverse engineered it. I ended up trading it to a
> friend
> in
> > California who still has it today. I also got to see the plane they
> cut
> off
> > the cockpit from at DM in person. They had the front end proped up on
> Wooden
> > crates to keep it level since it had no nose gear ( or nose for that
> matter)
> > It was almost a 16 foot long cockpit section with the titanium bathtub
> in
> it
> > and the canopy etc. When at DMAFB that time I did look for the two
> seat
> A-10
> > in the rows but did not see it. It may reside at the Edwards AFB
> musuem in
> > California.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Brian Sikkema" <hangr18@hotmail.com>
> > To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 9:23 PM
> > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] RE: F-16 flight
> >
> >
> > > 90% sure. This was some years ago... any idea when exactly it was
> > > mothballed?
> > >
> > > Brian
> > >
> > > ----Original Message Follows----
> > > From: "Chris Woodul" <crewstation1@charter.net>
> > > Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> > > To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] RE: F-16 flight
> > > Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 21:15:48 -0600
> > >
> > > Are you sure? there was only one Two seat A-10 and it was a
> Fairchild
> > 'One
> > > Off' becuase the Hog was so easy to fly that the airforce found no
> need
> > for
> > > a two seat coversion trainer. The only one I know of has not flown
> in
> > many
> > > years and is in storage.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Brian Sikkema" <hangr18@hotmail.com>
> > > To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> > > Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 8:06 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] RE: F-16 flight
> > >
> > >
> > > > I've heard of celebs getting flights before (hell a local TV
> > Anchorwoman
> > > > managed to score a flight in one of the VERY few 2-seat A-10's
> out
> > there,
> > > I
> > > > still wanna know how that happened), but firing a sidewinder?
> PILOTS
> > > don't
> > > > get to do that very often!
> > > >
> > > > Brian
> > > >
> > > > >Somehow he scored a ride in viper and got to fly, pull 9G's and
> fire
> > off
> > > a
> > > > >sidewinder.
> > > >
> > > >
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