[simpits-tech] RE: Bending Wood
Douglas G Lewis
simpits-tech@simpits.org
Sun, 25 Aug 2002 17:07:24 -0400
You might think about fiberglass. I used it for my Aces II and it worked
real well.
Doug
On Sun, 25 Aug 2002 15:39:58 -0500 "Joseph Fagner"
<crease-guard@attbi.com> writes:
>
>
> Tha
>
> --__--__--
> I got most of the ideas from Joe's site, problem is, I can't find
> 1/8"
> MDF. I went to Home Depot and Lowes (they didn't have any MDF) and
> HD
> only had 1/4 inch which I felt would just be too thick to bend. I
> tried
> some different paneling material that looked similar to MDF, but
> the
> problem there was, it wasn't a uniform thickness and the thinner
> areas
> would crack.
>
> As for the hardboard/MDF difference, I know they are not the same,
> but
> it does seem like some folks use them interchangeably which is
> frustrating. I tried wetting 1/8" plywood, but because the
> different
> sheets are at 90 degrees to one another, I got cracking there too.
>
> What I want to do is, to build the seat pan and bottom of the seat
> as
> close to the real thing as I can. I am assembling a survival kit
> from
> the AcesII and almost have it complete. I am also working on the
> flight
> gear as well and have gotten some hard to find stuff (at least for
> me it
> was HTF).
>
> Any ideas are welcome.
>
> Jay
>
>
>
> Message: 2
> From: "Jean Yves Surfin'" <surfer.man@wanadoo.fr>
> To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] RE: Simpits-tech digest, Vol 1 #391 - 7
> msgs
> Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 08:33:16 +0200
> Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
>
> Hi !
>
> The wet bending method from Joe "WOMBAT" seems to work well.
> I've not try actually but It will use it as reference.
> many many pictures of his site...
> http://www.bosnjak.com/
>
> Hope it will help you.
>
> Sincerly
> Jean-Yves
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joseph Fagner" <crease-guard@attbi.com>
> To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 11:38 PM
> Subject: [simpits-tech] RE: Simpits-tech digest, Vol 1 #391 - 7
> msgs
>
>
> >
> > Roy, what exactly did you use for the skin and how did you bend
> it? I
> > was trying to construct my aces II seat and ended up destroying
> the
> MDF
> > trying to get different things to bend in the shape of the seat.
> I am
> > now having to start over and am going to make darn sure that I
> have it
> > right this time before starting construction.
> >
> > Jay
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Roy Coates" <roy@flightlab.liv.ac.uk>
> > To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 7:17 PM
> > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Fingers Crossed
> >
> >
> > > On Fri, 23 Aug 2002, Chris Woodul wrote:
> > >
> > > > Where do you work?
> > >
> > > The following are my current toys:
> > >
> > > http://www.flightlab.liv.ac.uk/heliflight/
> > >
> > > and
> > >
> > > http://www.x-plane.info/cockpit/
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Roy.
> > >
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> Message: 3
> From: "Rob Hommel" <rhommel@tacoma.net>
> To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] RE: Simpits-tech digest, Vol 1 #391 - 7
> msgs
> Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 00:47:20 -0700
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>
> Jay
>
> For bending MDF use the thinnest board that is available in your
> area.
> Wetting the board does work you may notice that if it is too wet
> the
> board
> begins to delaminate. MDF is a composite board made much like
> cardboard
> but
> much denser. Using a spray bottle to wet the board down may be the
> solution
> or just dipping it into a pan of water for a brief period may be
> your
> solution. The solution which I used was that of slowly bending the
> board
> and
> tacking it frequently as I slowly bent the board into place.
> Another
> solution I have found that works to varying degrees is cutting into
> the
> back
> side of the MDF prior to bending. Cut just enough material away to
> give
> the
> board greater flex. The thing about MDF or hardboard is that it is
> fairly
> inexpensive to purchase and the possibilities for it's use are
> quite
> diverse. Heavy MDF when wet develops blisters which are hard to
> remove
> so be
> very careful when working with thicker MDF.
>
> BTW there are differences between MDF and hardboard, we tend to use
> the
> terms interchangeably around here.
>
> Keep 'em Flying
> Rob Hommel
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joseph Fagner" <crease-guard@attbi.com>
> To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 2:38 PM
> Subject: [simpits-tech] RE: Simpits-tech digest, Vol 1 #391 - 7
> msgs
>
>
> >
> > Roy, what exactly did you use for the skin and how did you bend
> it? I
> > was trying to construct my aces II seat and ended up destroying
> the
> MDF
> > trying to get different things to bend in the shape of the seat.
> I am
> > now having to start over and am going to make darn sure that I
> have it
> > right this time before starting construction.
> >
> > Jay
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Roy Coates" <roy@flightlab.liv.ac.uk>
> > To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 7:17 PM
> > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Fingers Crossed
> >
> >
> > > On Fri, 23 Aug 2002, Chris Woodul wrote:
> > >
> > > > Where do you work?
> > >
> > > The following are my current toys:
> > >
> > > http://www.flightlab.liv.ac.uk/heliflight/
> > >
> > > and
> > >
> > > http://www.x-plane.info/cockpit/
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Roy.
> > >
> > >
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> Message: 4
> From: "Jean Yves Surfin'" <surfer.man@wanadoo.fr>
> To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 19:57:54 +0200
> Subject: [simpits-tech] To Marv ....My order ACES II Sear Arm Switch
> and
> list of wishes
> Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
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> Hello Marv,
>
> Could you remember too me price of MARVelous ACES II seat arm switch
> ?
> I would like to order one to you. It's so realistic...
>
> By the way, are you able to realize some others F-16 parts :
>
> 1=B0 Handles
> . on the middle console,=20
> . for alt. gear at front left
> . and canopy jettison
> I've no idea if it's more easier to build them (certalinly not for
> the =
> third)
>
>
> 2=B0 The two indicator assemblies besides HUD (for Angle Of Attack
> at
> =
> left and the other ar right NWS )
> To be clear, the metal empty box with the light diming handle
> system on
> =
> side.
> The customer/user will furnish indicator, bulbs and so on...
>
> 3 =B0 the HUD assembly (except glass/plexi.) ?
>
>
> 4=B0 Arm Rest ?
>
>
> What do you think about my ideas / wishes ?
>
> As I'm from France, have you some infos about shipping amount for
> the =
> Arm switch ?
> I've Paypal.
>
> Thanks for all,
> Jean-Yves Jouanny
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: "Marv De Beque" <mdebeque@woh.rr.com>
> To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 10:46 PM
> Subject: [simpits-tech] ACES II Sear Arm Switch
>
>
> > Finished.
> >=20
> > Got these done for those who ordered them.
> >=20
> > What can I build you guys next?
> >=20
> > Marv
> >=20
> >=20
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> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello Marv,</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Could you remember too me price of
> =
> MARVelous ACES=20
> II seat arm switch ?</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I would like to order one to you.
> It's
> =
> so=20
> realistic...</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>By the way, are you able to realize
> =
> some=20
> others F-16 parts :</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>1=B0 =
> Handles</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>. on the middle =
> console, </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>. for alt. gear at front =
> left</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>. and canopy jettison</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've no idea if it's more easier to
> =
> build them=20
> (certalinly not for the third)</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>2=B0 The two=20
> indicator</STRONG> <STRONG>assemblies</STRONG> besides
> HUD =
> (for Angle=20
> Of Attack at left and the other ar right NWS )</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To be clear, the
> metal=20
> empty box with the light diming handle system
> on=20
> side.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The customer/user will =
> furnish indicator,=20
> bulbs and so on...</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>3 =B0 the</STRONG> =
> <STRONG>HUD</STRONG>=20
> assembly (except glass/plexi.) ?</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>4=B0 Arm Rest</STRONG> =
> ?</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What do you think about my ideas /
> =
> wishes=20
> ?</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As I'm from France, have you some
> infos
> =
> about=20
> shipping amount for the Arm switch ?</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've Paypal.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Thanks for all,</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jean-Yves Jouanny</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>----- Original Message -----
> </FONT>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>From: "Marv De Beque"
> <</FONT><A=20
> href=3D"mailto:mdebeque@woh.rr.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20
> size=3D2>mdebeque@woh.rr.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
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> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To: <</FONT><A=20
> href=3D"mailto:simpits-tech@simpits.org"><FONT face=3DArial=20
> size=3D2>simpits-tech@simpits.org</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial=20
> size=3D2>></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 10:46
> =
> PM</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Subject: [simpits-tech] ACES II
> Sear =
> Arm=20
> Switch</FONT></DIV></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><BR><FONT size=3D2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT
> =
> face=3DArial=20
> size=3D2>> Finished.<BR>> <BR>> Got these done for those
> who =
> ordered=20
> them.<BR>> <BR>> What can I build you guys next?<BR>>
> <BR>>=20
> Marv<BR>> <BR>> </FONT></BODY></HTML>
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