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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I thought you had dual I7 920's in that rig
Bill?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>BTW. Without a 64 bit operating system you are only
using about half of your RAM at best. You know that eh?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>R</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=catalina299@gmail.com href="mailto:catalina299@gmail.com">William
Segal</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=simpits-tech@simpits.org
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, April 26, 2010 2:42
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [simpits-tech] FSX computer
recomendations?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>let me give you some thoughts :and notes <BR>My system built 8
months ago <BR>I started with a HAF 132 chasis because it has 3 210mm fans and
is very cool (quiet,clean)running $150<BR><BR>A gold 1100 watt
power supply $279( here we have ENERGY STAR) which means very efficient
electric system this PSI can run at 1470 MAX all day(overhead)<BR><BR>A
classified mother board the first out $500(this was over the top but I
wanted the best) .It has never missed a beat usually first time out has issue
this has none<BR><BR>6 gigs corsair dominator GT 2000 speed ram
$350 then <BR><BR>i7 2.66 with the overclocking pin now stock, 4.0gigs easily
possible $255 <BR><BR>Dual Evga 285 OC with 2 gigs each total 4 gigs SLI
2.0 bridged both for $1000<BR><BR>I have had raptors before I don't like them
if I wanted to go crazy I would<BR>go to SCSI 15,000 RPM drives with a Promise
caching controller W/256 megs of cache <BR><BR>I went with a Seagate Barracuda
III 1.5 gigs from Fry's $120 <BR><BR>A friend put it together for
$100<BR><BR>It runs a tripleheadtogo to run 3 -24inch LCD monitors at
1680 X1050 converts 3 monitors into 1 big one 5040X1050<BR><BR>This has
not had a gulp or a crash it sometimes runs 15 hours a day perfect. X-Plane is
still 32 bit should it go to 64 bit <BR>then I have total of 10 gigs
.<BR><BR>I live in Southern California we have high temps and it rarely get
below 40F at night daytime ave is 63F year around but<BR> summers are
always 75-85-95-105F still this baby runs like a clock<BR><BR>Total price
total price about $3000 these figures include shipping because
California 10% sales tax most item were bought in<BR> NY city or New
Jersey except the power supply and MOBO were bought direct from EVGA
.<BR><BR>note: of all the card suppliers EVGA was the best not only a live
person tech support. We needed to know exactly how much<BR>the video cards
drew in power full out. Nvidia won't talk,ATI would not talk AMD the same but
a VP at Evga would and told me<BR>exactly in watts what each card drew
maximum. This private information which we got and nobody else would talk
about it . <BR>That is how I got a 20amp system to run at 20 amps exactly and
never have a giitch.<BR><BR>I found out the, top end at that time, the 295
extreme with prox 1700MEGS although no one ever expressed a maximum
<BR>requirement for power we found out 1 card needed 550 watts to run
flat out . This new 480 and AMD you need to know<BR>for sure that information
before you buy a power supply unless you buy a 2000 watt PSI or run only 1
card .<BR><BR>The biggest issue on computers today is under powered PSI
<BR><BR>After all most a year since we started planning for this system I have
to say its been a wonderful experience <BR><BR>one last thought<BR><BR>4 years
ago I wanted to build the hottest gamer you could get .Nobody had ever even
heard the words SLI no one built<BR>a Mobo to run more than one. I did
<BR><BR>The hottest video cards on the planet were Geforce 7800GTX 512megs
each the only mobo that would run 2 at once was<BR><BR>was a SuperMicro a
server board .Server boards can be from 13inch X 13 inches to 2 feet X 2feet
<BR><BR>They need a special case <BR><BR>With 2 gigs of ram and Supermicro
750watt server board I ran flight simulator with every feature to the limit at
60FPS over Manhattan<BR><BR>at control height but it ran hot,Dirty and sounded
like a jet engine . I got fed up with it and gave it to Rick Davis Shelburne
Nova Scotia <BR><BR>because its cold up there and I figured it would run
better . I had to break my piggy bank on that one and beg mummy for some
more<BR><BR> money.<BR><BR><BR>Regards<BR><BR>William Segal <BR><BR>sorry
for bad writting I am not college boy
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 7:04 AM, Sander van der Moolen
<SPAN dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:sander@vpilot.net">sander@vpilot.net</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Is FSX CPU
dependant like FS9 (and previous) is? Or is it “leaning” more on the
GPU?</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Justin, I think if
you had upgraded the CPU and/or RAM you would have seen a much greater
improvement in framerate.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I’m going to
upgrade my system at the start of the summer and have picked an AMD/ATI
combo. I’ve already got a 550W PSU, case and HDD’s.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">AMD Phenom II X4
955 B.E.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">GeIL GV34GB1333C7DC
4GB DDR3 (2x2)</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Gigabyte
GA-770TA-UD3 mainboard</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Sapphire Vapor-X
HD5770 1GB</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Scythe Katana 3 CPU
cooler (may change though)</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Sony AD-7240S
cd/dvd burner because the “old” one is beginning to show
problems.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Total price around
€ 500 which is just under maximum W.A.F.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
href="mailto:simpits-tech-bounces@simpits.org"
target=_blank>simpits-tech-bounces@simpits.org</A> [mailto:<A
href="mailto:simpits-tech-bounces@simpits.org"
target=_blank>simpits-tech-bounces@simpits.org</A>] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Namens </SPAN></B>Justin Messenger<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Verzonden:</SPAN></B> woensdag 7 april 2010
19:01<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Aan:</SPAN></B> Simpits
Tech<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Onderwerp:</SPAN></B>
[simpits-tech] FSX computer recomendations?</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">At the Jetline website the only computer they
have that is shown to run FSX at max settings costs $5.000.00 <A
href="http://www.jetlinesystems.com/products.html"
target=_blank>http://www.jetlinesystems.com/products.html</A></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I dont seem to be very good
at building gaming machines, Such as when I was shocked
when my new $600.00 8800 Ultra video card did little to
improve my frame rate in FS9.</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">justin</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN><FONT size=3
face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">>It would be
worth checking for any FSX specific benchmark testing
of</SPAN></FONT></SPAN><BR><SPAN>>each video card setup. I have
done some pretty basic testing of nvidia</SPAN><BR><SPAN>>vs ATI,
but not very scientific... it would be worth the research
time.</SPAN><BR><SPAN>>Our results were quite "interesting", with
the results we saw not</SPAN><BR><SPAN>>matching the published
benchmark results. In 3d Mark they came out</SPAN><BR><SPAN>>pretty
much as published, but in flightsim it was a whole
different</SPAN><BR><SPAN>>matter.</SPAN><BR><BR><BR><SPAN>></SPAN><BR><SPAN>>Just
my 2c</SPAN><BR><BR><SPAN>></SPAN><BR><BR><SPAN>>SeanG (who
would love either of those machines.....)</SPAN><BR><BR></P></DIV>
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