yea but I flew over Manhattan at the control altitude with all the bells and whistles mostly at 60FPS in McNeill's T182RT Cessna very happy with the results <br>no matter what anyone says Bridged SLI With dual cards 2 gigs each will last until the rumored tripleheadtogo runs at 1600X1200 32bit or better hoping for <br>
Mac;s Cinema 30 inch monitors 2500x1600 WoW!<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Rick Davis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rd@ns.sympatico.ca">rd@ns.sympatico.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">I thought you had dual I7 920's in that rig
Bill?</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">BTW. Without a 64 bit operating system you are only
using about half of your RAM at best. You know that eh?</font></div>
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<a title="catalina299@gmail.com" href="mailto:catalina299@gmail.com" target="_blank">William
Segal</a> </div>
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<div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [simpits-tech] FSX computer
recomendations?</div>
<div><br></div>let me give you some thoughts :and notes <br>My system built 8
months ago <br>I started with a HAF 132 chasis because it has 3 210mm fans and
is very cool (quiet,clean)running $150<br><br>A gold 1100 watt
power supply $279( here we have ENERGY STAR) which means very efficient
electric system this PSI can run at 1470 MAX all day(overhead)<br><br>A
classified mother board the first out $500(this was over the top but I
wanted the best) .It has never missed a beat usually first time out has issue
this has none<br><br>6 gigs corsair dominator GT 2000 speed ram
$350 then <br><br>i7 2.66 with the overclocking pin now stock, 4.0gigs easily
possible $255 <br><br>Dual Evga 285 OC with 2 gigs each total 4 gigs SLI
2.0 bridged both for $1000<br><br>I have had raptors before I don't like them
if I wanted to go crazy I would<br>go to SCSI 15,000 RPM drives with a Promise
caching controller W/256 megs of cache <br><br>I went with a Seagate Barracuda
III 1.5 gigs from Fry's $120 <br><br>A friend put it together for
$100<br><br>It runs a tripleheadtogo to run 3 -24inch LCD monitors at
1680 X1050 converts 3 monitors into 1 big one 5040X1050<br><br>This has
not had a gulp or a crash it sometimes runs 15 hours a day perfect. X-Plane is
still 32 bit should it go to 64 bit <br>then I have total of 10 gigs
.<br><br>I live in Southern California we have high temps and it rarely get
below 40F at night daytime ave is 63F year around but<br> summers are
always 75-85-95-105F still this baby runs like a clock<br><br>Total price
total price about $3000 these figures include shipping because
California 10% sales tax most item were bought in<br> NY city or New
Jersey except the power supply and MOBO were bought direct from EVGA
.<br><br>note: of all the card suppliers EVGA was the best not only a live
person tech support. We needed to know exactly how much<br>the video cards
drew in power full out. Nvidia won't talk,ATI would not talk AMD the same but
a VP at Evga would and told me<br>exactly in watts what each card drew
maximum. This private information which we got and nobody else would talk
about it . <br>That is how I got a 20amp system to run at 20 amps exactly and
never have a giitch.<br><br>I found out the, top end at that time, the 295
extreme with prox 1700MEGS although no one ever expressed a maximum
<br>requirement for power we found out 1 card needed 550 watts to run
flat out . This new 480 and AMD you need to know<br>for sure that information
before you buy a power supply unless you buy a 2000 watt PSI or run only 1
card .<br><br>The biggest issue on computers today is under powered PSI
<br><br>After all most a year since we started planning for this system I have
to say its been a wonderful experience <br><br>one last thought<br><br>4 years
ago I wanted to build the hottest gamer you could get .Nobody had ever even
heard the words SLI no one built<br>a Mobo to run more than one. I did
<br><br>The hottest video cards on the planet were Geforce 7800GTX 512megs
each the only mobo that would run 2 at once was<br><br>was a SuperMicro a
server board .Server boards can be from 13inch X 13 inches to 2 feet X 2feet
<br><br>They need a special case <br><br>With 2 gigs of ram and Supermicro
750watt server board I ran flight simulator with every feature to the limit at
60FPS over Manhattan<br><br>at control height but it ran hot,Dirty and sounded
like a jet engine . I got fed up with it and gave it to Rick Davis Shelburne
Nova Scotia <br><br>because its cold up there and I figured it would run
better . I had to break my piggy bank on that one and beg mummy for some
more<br><br> money.<br><br><br>Regards<br><br>William Segal <br><br>sorry
for bad writting I am not college boy
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 7:04 AM, Sander van der Moolen
<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sander@vpilot.net" target="_blank">sander@vpilot.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;">Is FSX CPU
dependant like FS9 (and previous) is? Or is it “leaning” more on the
GPU?</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;">Justin, I think if
you had upgraded the CPU and/or RAM you would have seen a much greater
improvement in framerate.</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;">I’m going to
upgrade my system at the start of the summer and have picked an AMD/ATI
combo. I’ve already got a 550W PSU, case and HDD’s.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;">AMD Phenom II X4
955 B.E.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;">GeIL GV34GB1333C7DC
4GB DDR3 (2x2)</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;">Gigabyte
GA-770TA-UD3 mainboard</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;">Sapphire Vapor-X
HD5770 1GB</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;">Scythe Katana 3 CPU
cooler (may change though)</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;">Sony AD-7240S
cd/dvd burner because the “old” one is beginning to show
problems.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;">Total price around
€ 500 which is just under maximum W.A.F.</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: bold;">Van:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 10pt;"> <a href="mailto:simpits-tech-bounces@simpits.org" target="_blank">simpits-tech-bounces@simpits.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:simpits-tech-bounces@simpits.org" target="_blank">simpits-tech-bounces@simpits.org</a>] <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Namens </span></b>Justin Messenger<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Verzonden:</span></b> woensdag 7 april 2010
19:01<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Aan:</span></b> Simpits
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[simpits-tech] FSX computer recomendations?</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">At the Jetline website the only computer they
have that is shown to run FSX at max settings costs $5.000.00 <a href="http://www.jetlinesystems.com/products.html" target="_blank">http://www.jetlinesystems.com/products.html</a></span></font></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">I dont seem to be very good
at building gaming machines, Such as when I was shocked
when my new $600.00 8800 Ultra video card did little to
improve my frame rate in FS9.</span></font></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">justin</span></font></span></p></div>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;" class="MsoNormal"><span><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">>It would be
worth checking for any FSX specific benchmark testing
of</span></font></span><br><span>>each video card setup. I have
done some pretty basic testing of nvidia</span><br><span>>vs ATI,
but not very scientific... it would be worth the research
time.</span><br><span>>Our results were quite "interesting", with
the results we saw not</span><br><span>>matching the published
benchmark results. In 3d Mark they came out</span><br><span>>pretty
much as published, but in flightsim it was a whole
different</span><br><span>>matter.</span><br><br><br><span>></span><br><span>>Just
my 2c</span><br><br><span>></span><br><br><span>>SeanG (who
would love either of those machines.....)</span><br><br></p></div>
<p style="text-align: center;" align="center"><span><span><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><a href="http://www.phantomsim.org/" target="_blank"></a></span></font></span></span> </p>
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