<div>Freeman,</div> <div>My first sim used a monitor to display my gauges and it did the job. It certainly is cheaper</div> <div> </div> <div>Now I am using gauges that run off of servos and stepper moters. Some of Simkits gauges use modified servos to allow continuious movement like the Altimeter, though their attitude indicator is limited as you said. That is why I am using Flight Ilusion's stepper motor attitude indicator because it has 360 degree roll as can be seen in my F-4 video.</div> <div><A href="http://geocities.com/cap17.geo/ShowSim.wmv">http://geocities.com/cap17.geo/ShowSim.wmv</A> I dont see how that is an issue in a 172 though :)</div> <div> </div> <div>I prefer the look of the physical gauges though there are some really nice pits out there that use monitors for tradition gauges. Its a matter of personal choice and budget. My favorite traditional instrument sim that is using monitors is this 727. <A
href="http://project727.xsn.net/">http://project727.xsn.net/</A> It looks great.</div> <div> </div> <div>Beta Innovations sells air core gauges. Ask Gene, he picked up a bunch of them and can tell you how cheap they are :) Im sure he had to put off his next RC plane project for a while after the aircore purchase :) But they work well once you get them running.</div> <div> </div> <div>Justin</div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div>simpits-tech] <B>Freeman Pascal</B> <A title="[simpits-tech] CRT/LCD backed gauges vs. mechanical gauges..." href="mailto:simpits-tech%40simpits.org?Subject=%5Bsimpits-tech%5D%20CRT/LCD%20backed%20gauges%20vs.%20mechanical%20gauges...&In-Reply-To=">pascal at pascal.org </A><BR><I>Sat Apr 26 21:46:32 PDT 2008</I> </div> <div> <UL> <LI>Previous message: <A href="http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/2008-April/019517.html">[simpits-tech] headsets </A> <LI><B>Messages sorted by:</B> <A
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viewable area of 490.31 mm X 276.51 mm (for all gauges) or 355.08 mm X 276.51 mm (primary flight gauges), or multiple monitors. A standard 17" LCD monitor and a standard 15" LCD monitor would handle all the gauges with 2" overlap hanging out above the engine gauges. Two 17"s will work with more overlap. Servo gauges would allow me to run the yoke through the instrument panel without alteration, but servo gauges suffer from price and rotation limitations (can't do a barrel roll without having the servo snap around). Air gauges would work, but they are even harder to find. Anyone ever seen kits for building your own air wound gauges? LCD backed gauges allow you to handle all the gauges you can get on a single screen without additional electronics (maybe an extra graphics card if needed). The displayed gauges would not suffer from physical limitations that server gauges would. Although, on the C172 panel the LCDs would be in
the way of the normal yoke mounting and fuse panel. One solution for this is to added a vertical space between the gauges and the fuse/switch panel to accommodate the displaced yoke and fuse panel. This doesn't look too bad and only adds approximately 2" to the vertical height of the cockpit. I could use the extra space for head set jacks and extra switches if needed. If I use a 15" monitor for the engine gauges I can move the LCD down a bit and reduce the overlap sticking out above the edge. It's all a bit frustrating if you want an authentic, realistic cockpit layout that can be used as a trainer. How are other folks dealing with similar challenges with their own cockpits? -Freeman </PRE><p> 
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