<div> The word simulators certainly is not a copyright term, but I did go to the f16simulators site and it looks like the guy has stopped using it. So maybe we can just boycott the site and any products they sell. I'm expecting any products and services of the site will be too expensive for most of us any way.<br>
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Yes a classic example of butcher economics.<br>
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From: David C. Allen <allendc@qwest.net><br>
To: Simulator Cockpit tech list <simpits-tech@simpits.org><br>
Sent: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 11:14 am<br>
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Web site registeration issue using F16 plane name<br>
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<pre style="font-size: 9pt;"><tt>Gene is right on!<br>
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Look at what this guy has been through:<br>
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<a href="http://www.nissan.com/Digest/The_Story.php" target="_blank">http://www.nissan.com/Digest/The_Story.php</a><br>
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David<br>
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At 10:44 PM 8/4/2007 -0700, you wrote:<br>
> > I am the owner of <a href="http://www.f16simulators.com" target="_blank">www.f16simulators.com</a> This past week I was contacted by<br>
> > lawyers in Newark for Lockheed Martin asking me to relinquish the domain<br>
> > to them or let it expire in a few years without making use of it. They<br>
> > sent me 5mb of trade mark registration documents where F16 has been<br>
> > registered in many jurisdictions around the world proving ownership in<br>
> > the F16 trademark.<br>
> ><br>
> > Stating that my ownership of a web site that includes F16 in relation to<br>
> > a product registered in law is a use of their trademark without their<br>
> > permission.<br>
> ><br>
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>If it was _me_ ( and I'm NOT a lawyer), I'd tell them that since the F-16<br>
>was developed at the request of the USAF and was paid for with public<br>
>funds, they can go pound sand.<br>
><br>
>According to this page:<br>
><a href="http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=n6qap2.2.3" target="_blank">http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=n6qap2.2.3</a><br>
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>"F-16" was not registered by Lockmart until July 12, 2004.<br>
>So it took them over 20 years to register a trademark? (The F-16 program<br>
>started in 1974)<br>
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>Your domain was registered in 2003, prior to the registration of their<br>
>trademark. If you have the time, I'd fight this as hard as you can.<br>
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>g.<br>
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