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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>That’s a great point, I never thought
about the monitor loosing it’s signal going to it’s default screen. We would
have to work out that problem and was why I suggested splitting the signal from
one card to 4 or 5 different monitors. My big concern with that is how it
would affect your peripheral vision.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> simpits-tech-bounces@simpits.org
[mailto:simpits-tech-bounces@simpits.org] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Inventmd@aol.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, December 20, 2004
6:06 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> simpits-tech@simpits.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [simpits-tech] Falcon
multiple monitor support workaround</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Jay, </span></font><font
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color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Wow! I guess it is
true. Screwball cockpit crazed minds think alike. You have already
come up with that idea. I thought I was being original.</span></font><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Now we need people who
know how to implement it.</span></font><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>In the older days when a
TV lost signal, you got fuzz and snow and random patterns...Nowadays when it
looses signal, it reverts to a blue screen or in the case of some projectors, a
"infocus" logo screen. Does someone know how to get into that signal
to modify it?</span></font><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>John Li</span></font><font
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color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
simpits-tech-bounces@simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces@simpits.org]<b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Joseph Fagner<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, December 19, 2004
11:11 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> '<st1:PersonName w:st="on">Simulator
Cockpit tech list</st1:PersonName>'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [simpits-tech] Falcon
multiple monitor support workaround</span></font><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I postulated a similar idea over at
viperpit.org: <a href="http://www.viperpit.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=673">http://www.viperpit.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=673</a>
I like it and think it may have some promise. I’m not at a point of
testing this yet (still hoping to the flight sim gods there will be some kind
of Falcon/F-16 sim with multimonitor support). If there is not a
multimonitor option when I have the ability to test, I’d like to try out this
idea.</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Jay</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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margin-left:1.0in'><b><font size=2 color=navy face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=navy face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:navy'> simpits-tech-bounces@simpits.org
[mailto:simpits-tech-bounces@simpits.org] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Inventmd@aol.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, December 19, 2004
6:45 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> simpits-tech@simpits.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [simpits-tech] Falcon
multiple monitor support workaround</span></font><font color=navy><span
style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I just wanted to run this solution for
multiple monitor support by y'all to see if this is something that is worth
designing.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> Specifically, for Falcon, the
problem is that the software 4.0 does not allow for multiple monitor support at
this time.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> Of course using the trackerIR device
and a head mounted goggle and the 3-D cockpit, one can use that to slew around
and see everything. Unfortunately, then you can't see anything in your
beautiful cockpit<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> It should be possible to use
something like trackerIR to generate keypresses of the arrow key (view key) for
every certain number of degrees of head movement. Falcon has the
forward view (12 o'clock), left 45 degree (10:30), left 90 degree(9:00), left
135 degrees (7:30), each of which is accessed by a left arrow key press.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> Let us, for the sake of argument say
we have six LCD monitors arranged as follows: One monitor at 12 o'clock,
1:30, 3:00, 9:00, 10:30 and one directly overhead. All these monitors are
connected to some connection type device that we have yet to invent.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> All the monitors are connected
through this device to only one computer. This saves expenses on the
number of computers you need to buy and saves on network overhead. Only
one monitor is actively displaying what the computer shows. All the other
monitors freeze frame the very last frame it saw when hibernating in an
inactive state. The active monitor is selected by either the keypresses
generated by pilot head movement using the tracker system or some other way of
determining where the pilot is looking. (Using some sort of headmounted
laser pointer device for instance).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> So, while in use, the monitor that
is the center of the pilot's attention is active. All the other monitors
are in a freeze frame state showing the appropriate position view for its
position in space. For instance, the 9:00 monitor will always show the
9:00 view because it can only be activated when the head is turned to look at
the 9:00 monitor. When the pilot looks away, the monitor then freezes on
the last frame which is still in the 9:00 view and the next monitor at 10:30
takes over the viewing. The idea is that although the peripheral monitors
don't need to contribute lots of data while we are concentrating on the monitor
that we are looking at, for full visual stimulation will give a more immersive
sensation of being in the cockpit.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> If the freeze frame idea is too hard
to accomplish, then perhaps the monitors can be programmed to always show a
predetermined picture when it is in the idle state of a generic 9:00 view or
3:00 view depending on which monitor that is.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> I imagine the trackerIR technology
cannot be terribly expensive since it can be done with optical mice for under
10 bucks.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> Anyone have the know how and
gumption?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> John Li<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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