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<P><FONT size=2>Hi Steve,<BR><BR>You wrote:<BR><BR><FONT color=#0000ff>"At least
with Craig and Dave's homebrew plans, the cost is sure to be a heckuva lot less
than 2.5 G's"</FONT></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2>Dave estimated the shop time to produce the Viperpit.org SSC @
about 40 hrs. Let me pull a $/hr out of my bum -->
$60. That's $2,400 just for the machining. Of course that's
for a single unit and multiple units would bring this down some, but unless it
were mass produced in China, it wouldn't reduce the price that
much.</FONT></P>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>"<FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=#000000><FONT color=#0000ff>It certainly isn't going to be the same
quality as you are likely to produce"</FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>This is NOT certain. The Viperpit.org worked to the
exact specifications for the real SSC. Dave's machining is second to
none. I'm not taking anything away from Marv's work, but on what basis do
you make your quality assumption?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Craig R.</FONT></DIV>
<P><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From:
simpits-tech-bounces@simpits.org<BR>[<A
href="mailto:simpits-tech-bounces@simpits.org"
target=_blank>mailto:simpits-tech-bounces@simpits.org</A>]On Behalf Of Steve
Wilson<BR>Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 3:32 AM<BR>To: Simulator Cockpit tech
list<BR>Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Marvs SCC<BR><BR><BR>Marv, the price is what
it is. You deserve to be compensated for your costs<BR>and efforts, and
Chris Mihok has to get his cut too, since he's your front<BR>man and
distributor. It doesn't help, though, that a project that as<BR>originally
touted as something for simpit builders ended up being so doggone<BR>good it was
priced more for Uncle Sugar and his henchmen at the Pentagon.<BR>Gads, good job
dude, and way to go. There's a perfectly understandable<BR>inflation
factor there too. I guess what's spouting off betwixt my ears<BR>here is
the length of time I and a lot of other guys, both here and<BR>elsewhere, spent
hoping the original was going to be something we could<BR>afford and would be
available soon, a "soon" that was more like a year ago.<BR><BR>And yes, I do
understand that the timing of this project is something worked<BR>around *your*
life and your convenience - you really never owed any of us<BR>anything!!
Bigtime.<BR><BR>I also understand you may have a lesser priced version at some
point - but<BR>how can I or anyone else ask you to look into your crystal ball
and ask how<BR>far in the future that's going to be? At least with Craig
and Dave's<BR>homebrew plans, the cost is sure to be a heckuva lot less than 2.5
G's and<BR>the timing only limited by our ability to get our own parts
done. It<BR>certainly isn't going to be the same quality as you are likely
to produce I<BR>know, and I regret that. The real thing is that, at some
point, the<BR>arrogance in me actually expects to finish building cockpit(s) and
to get<BR>down to the task of learning how to be the best F-16 sim driver that I
can<BR>be. That's the goal, at least for me.<BR><BR>But all that
**whining** aside, Marv, go sell the thing, go sell a thousand<BR>of 'em.
You really don't owe me an apology for the price, but
thanks<BR>anyway.<BR><BR>It's not often that one's efforts in a hobby can be
turned into something<BR>worth literally thousands of dollars, and can actually
help defend this fine<BR>land of ours at the same time, at least
indirectly. For that<BR>accomplishment, you have my
respect.<BR><BR>Steve<BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: "Marv De
Beque" <mdebeque@woh.rr.com><BR>To: "Simulator Cockpit tech list"
<simpits-tech@simpits.org><BR>Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 3:28
PM<BR>Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Marvs SCC<BR><BR><BR>>
Steve,<BR>><BR>> Sorry about the cost, but the sale price obviously
represents my cost for<BR>> the components, too.<BR>><BR>> That is why
we're considering a home builder version. Hopefully, that<BR>will<BR>>
address this market. I'll keep you posted as things
develop.<BR>><BR>> Marv<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> On 1/30/04
12:48 PM, "Steve Wilson" <mafsix@hotmail.com> wrote:<BR>><BR>> >
I got an unsolicited email from my ol' pal Chris Mihok yesterday
(ACC<BR>Prez).<BR>> > $2,520.00 - based on them selling 12 units. No
change from the last<BR>time I<BR>> > got the info from Marv here in this
fine forum. I'm sure at that price<BR>a<BR>> > variety of buyers,
mainly government/military, will buy them. Certainly<BR>a<BR>> >
nice thing to have, but apparently not aimed at the casual
simpit<BR>builder.<BR>> > I spent just over a grand on my rudder pedals,
so I don't mind spending<BR>> > serious cash on a part for my overpriced
playpen. But even I have my<BR>> > limits! ;-)<BR>>
><BR>> > Steve W.<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > ----- Original
Message -----<BR>> > From: "Michi Hirczy" <mi.hi@gmx.net><BR>>
> To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org><BR>> > Sent: Friday, January 30,
2004 1:03 AM<BR>> > Subject: [simpits-tech] Marvs SCC<BR>> ><BR>>
><BR>> >> Hey, Marv!<BR>> >><BR>> >> I actually
read the announcement at sim-news.com, that you teamed up<BR>> >> with
Advanced Computer Concepts for your SSC. Do you have any pricing<BR>>
>> information (i.e. nothing has changed since last time, about
1.500,-)?<BR>> >><BR>> >> greetings<BR>> >>
michi<BR>> >> --<BR>> >> lg, michi<BR>> >><BR>>
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