From dabigboy at cox.net  Sun Apr  7 17:54:34 2013
From: dabigboy at cox.net (dabigboy at cox.net)
Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 17:54:34 -0700
Subject: [simpits-tech] Driving a 28vdc fuel indicator
Message-ID: <20130408005434.ZKDBM.869352.imail@eastrmwml303>

I am having a rough time with something that was supposed to be simple. I picked up a 28v fuel indicator made by Liquidometer a while back. I can't find any documentation for it, but putting voltage to two of its 10 pins moves the needle. In fact, I can pretty well control the needle using 12v PWM (or variable voltage, basically) on an Arduino, with a PNP transistor, up to about half scale needle deflection. Beyond that, the needle barely moves, even with DOUBLE the voltage (30+ volts). I tried additionally putting voltage to other pins (there are a number of pins that will move the needle in much the same manner), but nothing pushes it over the magic halfway'ish point.

Any ideas? I have a gauge just like this:  http://www.ebay.com/itm/110894737604

I am about ready to gut it and stuff an air core motor in there, but I hate to butcher the gauge.

Matt

From crease-guard at sbcglobal.net  Sun Apr  7 19:00:59 2013
From: crease-guard at sbcglobal.net (Joseph Fagner)
Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 19:00:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Driving a 28vdc fuel indicator
In-Reply-To: <20130408005434.ZKDBM.869352.imail@eastrmwml303>
References: <20130408005434.ZKDBM.869352.imail@eastrmwml303>
Message-ID: <1365386459.52661.YahooMailRC@web181702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Most of these things are 400Hz gauges since they are used in aircraft.  I 
suspect you need 28v 400Hz.  Then you have to generate a signal and that has to 
be calibrated along with feedback to know the needles position. Without the 
schematic, you will need to pull everything apart and trace out the wires and 
parts.  If you are going to do that, you're better off gutting it and going with 
an aircore.  Or, you keep the motor and drive it with custom electronics.

Jay




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Sent: Sun, April 7, 2013 7:54:42 PM
Subject: [simpits-tech] Driving a 28vdc fuel indicator

I am having a rough time with something that was supposed to be simple. I picked 
up a 28v fuel indicator made by Liquidometer a while back. I can't find any 
documentation for it, but putting voltage to two of its 10 pins moves the 
needle. In fact, I can pretty well control the needle using 12v PWM (or variable 
voltage, basically) on an Arduino, with a PNP transistor, up to about half scale 
needle deflection. Beyond that, the needle barely moves, even with DOUBLE the 
voltage (30+ volts). I tried additionally putting voltage to other pins (there 
are a number of pins that will move the needle in much the same manner), but 
nothing pushes it over the magic halfway'ish point.

Any ideas? I have a gauge just like this:  http://www.ebay.com/itm/110894737604

I am about ready to gut it and stuff an air core motor in there, but I hate to 
butcher the gauge.

Matt
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From david at allen1.net  Sun Apr  7 19:06:22 2013
From: david at allen1.net (David C. Allen)
Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2013 20:06:22 -0600
Subject: [simpits-tech] German researchers claim first: Robotic flight
	simulator
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References: <20130408005434.ZKDBM.869352.imail@eastrmwml303>
	<1365386459.52661.YahooMailRC@web181702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
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German researchers claim first: Robotic flight simulator

http://www.aopa.org/training/articles/2013/130403german-researchers-claim-first.html?WT.mc_id=130405epilot&WT.mc_sect=gan


From dabigboy at cox.net  Sun Apr  7 19:30:32 2013
From: dabigboy at cox.net (dabigboy at cox.net)
Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 19:30:32 -0700
Subject: [simpits-tech] Driving a 28vdc fuel indicator
In-Reply-To: <1365386459.52661.YahooMailRC@web181702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20130408023032.X13V3.870642.imail@eastrmwml214>

Yep, I'm used to running into the 400hz thing, but this gauge is actually labeled for DC. I thought maybe it was some sort of air core or variation thereof, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

Matt

---- Joseph Fagner <crease-guard at sbcglobal.net> wrote: 
> Most of these things are 400Hz gauges since they are used in aircraft.  I 
> suspect you need 28v 400Hz.  Then you have to generate a signal and that has to 
> be calibrated along with feedback to know the needles position. Without the 
> schematic, you will need to pull everything apart and trace out the wires and 
> parts.  If you are going to do that, you're better off gutting it and going with 
> an aircore.  Or, you keep the motor and drive it with custom electronics.
> 
> Jay
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: "dabigboy at cox.net" <dabigboy at cox.net>
> To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
> Sent: Sun, April 7, 2013 7:54:42 PM
> Subject: [simpits-tech] Driving a 28vdc fuel indicator
> 
> I am having a rough time with something that was supposed to be simple. I picked 
> up a 28v fuel indicator made by Liquidometer a while back. I can't find any 
> documentation for it, but putting voltage to two of its 10 pins moves the 
> needle. In fact, I can pretty well control the needle using 12v PWM (or variable 
> voltage, basically) on an Arduino, with a PNP transistor, up to about half scale 
> needle deflection. Beyond that, the needle barely moves, even with DOUBLE the 
> voltage (30+ volts). I tried additionally putting voltage to other pins (there 
> are a number of pins that will move the needle in much the same manner), but 
> nothing pushes it over the magic halfway'ish point.
> 
> Any ideas? I have a gauge just like this:  http://www.ebay.com/itm/110894737604
> 
> I am about ready to gut it and stuff an air core motor in there, but I hate to 
> butcher the gauge.
> 
> Matt
> _______________________________________________
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> Simpits-tech at simpits.org
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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Mon Apr  8 06:23:24 2013
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (geneb)
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 06:23:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] German researchers claim first: Robotic flight
 simulator
In-Reply-To: <20130408020628.E216B328048@ns2.simpits.org>
References: <20130408005434.ZKDBM.869352.imail@eastrmwml303>
	<1365386459.52661.YahooMailRC@web181702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<20130408020628.E216B328048@ns2.simpits.org>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.03.1304080623020.19281@deltasoft.com>

On Sun, 7 Apr 2013, David C. Allen wrote:

> German researchers claim first: Robotic flight simulator
>
> http://www.aopa.org/training/articles/2013/130403german-researchers-claim-first.html?WT.mc_id=130405epilot&WT.mc_sect=gan

They can claim all they want.  The USAF did this at LEAST a decade ago.

g.

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From phoenixcomm at gmail.com  Mon Apr  8 16:15:51 2013
From: phoenixcomm at gmail.com (Cris Harrison)
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 18:15:51 -0500
Subject: [simpits-tech] new VSTOL straight out of SyFy but it flys
Message-ID: <CAAqDk_5a1c4SJkt1CAsmpmBRr_rRjbOPPxUJaELwQ-y-AvdJ0A@mail.gmail.com>

http://theaviationist.com/2013/03/08/project-zero/#.UWNN77I-uvw

 this is just freaken cool. like out of avatar.. :) a jaw droper

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From phoenixcomm at gmail.com  Mon Apr  8 18:05:36 2013
From: phoenixcomm at gmail.com (Cris Harrison)
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 20:05:36 -0500
Subject: [simpits-tech] Driving a 28vdc fuel indicator
In-Reply-To: <20130408023032.X13V3.870642.imail@eastrmwml214>
References: <1365386459.52661.YahooMailRC@web181702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
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nope 28dc all the way have a look at this it might help
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/2195813.pdf

Enjoy
Cris H.


On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 9:30 PM, <dabigboy at cox.net> wrote:

> Yep, I'm used to running into the 400hz thing, but this gauge is actually
> labeled for DC. I thought maybe it was some sort of air core or variation
> thereof, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
>
> Matt
>
> ---- Joseph Fagner <crease-guard at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > Most of these things are 400Hz gauges since they are used in aircraft.  I
> > suspect you need 28v 400Hz.  Then you have to generate a signal and that
> has to
> > be calibrated along with feedback to know the needles position. Without
> the
> > schematic, you will need to pull everything apart and trace out the
> wires and
> > parts.  If you are going to do that, you're better off gutting it and
> going with
> > an aircore.  Or, you keep the motor and drive it with custom electronics.
> >
> > Jay
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: "dabigboy at cox.net" <dabigboy at cox.net>
> > To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
> > Sent: Sun, April 7, 2013 7:54:42 PM
> > Subject: [simpits-tech] Driving a 28vdc fuel indicator
> >
> > I am having a rough time with something that was supposed to be simple.
> I picked
> > up a 28v fuel indicator made by Liquidometer a while back. I can't find
> any
> > documentation for it, but putting voltage to two of its 10 pins moves the
> > needle. In fact, I can pretty well control the needle using 12v PWM (or
> variable
> > voltage, basically) on an Arduino, with a PNP transistor, up to about
> half scale
> > needle deflection. Beyond that, the needle barely moves, even with
> DOUBLE the
> > voltage (30+ volts). I tried additionally putting voltage to other pins
> (there
> > are a number of pins that will move the needle in much the same manner),
> but
> > nothing pushes it over the magic halfway'ish point.
> >
> > Any ideas? I have a gauge just like this:
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/110894737604
> >
> > I am about ready to gut it and stuff an air core motor in there, but I
> hate to
> > butcher the gauge.
> >
> > Matt
> > _______________________________________________
> > Simpits-tech mailing list
> > Simpits-tech at simpits.org
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> > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above
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From phoenixcomm at gmail.com  Tue Apr  9 07:51:00 2013
From: phoenixcomm at gmail.com (Cris Harrison)
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 09:51:00 -0500
Subject: [simpits-tech] Driving a 28vdc fuel indicator
In-Reply-To: <1365386459.52661.YahooMailRC@web181702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <20130408005434.ZKDBM.869352.imail@eastrmwml303>
	<1365386459.52661.YahooMailRC@web181702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
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Jay, you can blow gauges that way. If the gauge is marked DC well
then that's what it is!

Enjoy
Cris


On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Joseph Fagner <crease-guard at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> Most of these things are 400Hz gauges since they are used in aircraft.  I
> suspect you need 28v 400Hz.  Then you have to generate a signal and that
> has to be calibrated along with feedback to know the needles position.
> Without the schematic, you will need to pull everything apart and trace out
> the wires and parts.  If you are going to do that, you're better off
> gutting it and going with an aircore.  Or, you keep the motor and drive it
> with custom electronics.
>
> Jay
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* "dabigboy at cox.net" <dabigboy at cox.net>
> *To:* Simulator Cockpit Builder's List <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
> *Sent:* Sun, April 7, 2013 7:54:42 PM
> *Subject:* [simpits-tech] Driving a 28vdc fuel indicator
>
> I am having a rough time with something that was supposed to be simple. I
> picked up a 28v fuel indicator made by Liquidometer a while back. I can't
> find any documentation for it, but putting voltage to two of its 10 pins
> moves the needle. In fact, I can pretty well control the needle using 12v
> PWM (or variable voltage, basically) on an Arduino, with a PNP transistor,
> up to about half scale needle deflection. Beyond that, the needle barely
> moves, even with DOUBLE the voltage (30+ volts). I tried additionally
> putting voltage to other pins (there are a number of pins that will move
> the needle in much the same manner), but nothing pushes it over the magic
> halfway'ish point.
>
> Any ideas? I have a gauge just like this:
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/110894737604
>
> I am about ready to gut it and stuff an air core motor in there, but I
> hate to butcher the gauge.
>
> Matt
>
>
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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Fri Apr 12 08:00:36 2013
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (geneb)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 08:00:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] CockpitFest info...
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.03.1304120800150.12978@deltasoft.com>

http://www.avsim.com//fancon2013/cockpit.pdf

Pretty slick. :)

g.


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From crease-guard at sbcglobal.net  Fri Apr 12 08:18:51 2013
From: crease-guard at sbcglobal.net (Joseph Fagner)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 08:18:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] CockpitFest info...
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.03.1304120800150.12978@deltasoft.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.03.1304120800150.12978@deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <1365779931.82154.YahooMailRC@web181703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

If either one of us get ours done before we die, we might be able to attend as 
well :-)

Jay




________________________________
From: geneb <geneb at deltasoft.com>
To: simpits-tech at simpits.org
Sent: Fri, April 12, 2013 10:00:49 AM
Subject: [simpits-tech] CockpitFest info...

http://www.avsim.com//fancon2013/cockpit.pdf

Pretty slick. :)

g.


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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Fri Apr 12 08:30:37 2013
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (geneb)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 08:30:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] CockpitFest info...
In-Reply-To: <1365779931.82154.YahooMailRC@web181703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
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	<1365779931.82154.YahooMailRC@web181703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
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On Fri, 12 Apr 2013, Joseph Fagner wrote:

> If either one of us get ours done before we die, we might be able to attend as
> well :-)
>
Hehe.  I'm not moving mine.  Nor would I EVER be insane enough to let the 
general public near it.  As it is, a visitor in the past 4 or 5 years may 
have swiped the F/A-18 flight grip I had...

g.



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ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
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From dabigboy at cox.net  Fri Apr 12 17:18:40 2013
From: dabigboy at cox.net (dabigboy at cox.net)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 17:18:40 -0700
Subject: [simpits-tech] CockpitFest info...
In-Reply-To: <1365779931.82154.YahooMailRC@web181703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20130413001840.PQ05V.37766.imail@fed1rmwml108>

Hey,works-in-progress are welcome! I for one would love to see Gene's F-15 in the flesh (errr, aluminum, that is).

CF2012 was really a blast.....I am still amazed that I actually have the opportunity to participate in something like this, or even that such an event exists. CF2013 will be even better.......we're gonna have more sims, and there is some cool gadgetry sitting on my workbench as we speak. :)

Matt

---- Joseph Fagner <crease-guard at sbcglobal.net> wrote: 
> If either one of us get ours done before we die, we might be able to attend as 
> well :-)
> 
> Jay
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: geneb <geneb at deltasoft.com>
> To: simpits-tech at simpits.org
> Sent: Fri, April 12, 2013 10:00:49 AM
> Subject: [simpits-tech] CockpitFest info...
> 
> http://www.avsim.com//fancon2013/cockpit.pdf
> 
> Pretty slick. :)
> 
> g.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
> http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
> http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home.
> Some people collect things for a hobby.  Geeks collect hobbies.
> 
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> A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
> http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!
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From dabigboy at cox.net  Fri Apr 12 17:20:40 2013
From: dabigboy at cox.net (dabigboy at cox.net)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 17:20:40 -0700
Subject: [simpits-tech] CockpitFest info...
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.03.1304120829130.13373@deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <20130413002040.4DX2Z.37781.imail@fed1rmwml108>

Ooooh that's a bummer........my only casualty for CF2012 was my PTT button, it seems to have become stuck or damaged somehow....really not sure what happened there. Perhaps a youngster was playing Tom Cruise and thought my PTT was the trigger? :)

Matt

---- geneb <geneb at deltasoft.com> wrote: 
> On Fri, 12 Apr 2013, Joseph Fagner wrote:
> 
> > If either one of us get ours done before we die, we might be able to attend as
> > well :-)
> >
> Hehe.  I'm not moving mine.  Nor would I EVER be insane enough to let the 
> general public near it.  As it is, a visitor in the past 4 or 5 years may 
> have swiped the F/A-18 flight grip I had...
> 
> g.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
> http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
> http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home.
> Some people collect things for a hobby.  Geeks collect hobbies.
> 
> ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
> A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
> http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!
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From phoenixcomm at gmail.com  Sun Apr 14 14:13:08 2013
From: phoenixcomm at gmail.com (Cris Harrison)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 16:13:08 -0500
Subject: [simpits-tech] CockpitFest info...
In-Reply-To: <20130413002040.4DX2Z.37781.imail@fed1rmwml108>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.03.1304120829130.13373@deltasoft.com>
	<20130413002040.4DX2Z.37781.imail@fed1rmwml108>
Message-ID: <CAAqDk_6i25-uKxziwPAiRd+gwuozxnqZHQq9BLSJCRdyFcyZmA@mail.gmail.com>

hey what about doing something down here in FT Worth??? I belong to
Greatest Generation Aircraft http://www.gga1.org/
They might host an event.. we even have flying B-25 and Dakota. the ME262
is also on this field, and Frontiers of Flight is over in Addison/Dallas.

Enjoy
Cris H.


On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 7:20 PM, <dabigboy at cox.net> wrote:

> Ooooh that's a bummer........my only casualty for CF2012 was my PTT
> button, it seems to have become stuck or damaged somehow....really not sure
> what happened there. Perhaps a youngster was playing Tom Cruise and thought
> my PTT was the trigger? :)
>
> Matt
>
> ---- geneb <geneb at deltasoft.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, 12 Apr 2013, Joseph Fagner wrote:
> >
> > > If either one of us get ours done before we die, we might be able to
> attend as
> > > well :-)
> > >
> > Hehe.  I'm not moving mine.  Nor would I EVER be insane enough to let the
> > general public near it.  As it is, a visitor in the past 4 or 5 years may
> > have swiped the F/A-18 flight grip I had.
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From jjmessenger at yahoo.com  Sun Apr 14 16:03:13 2013
From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 16:03:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Cockpit-Fest
In-Reply-To: <mailman.90.1365973994.2483.simpits-tech@simpits.org>
References: <mailman.90.1365973994.2483.simpits-tech@simpits.org>
Message-ID: <1365980593.13421.YahooMailNeo@web140205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

>hey what about doing something down here in FT Worth??? I belong to Greatest Generation Aircraft http://www.gga1.org/ 
>They might host an event.. we even have flying B-25 and Dakota. the ME262 is also on this field, and Frontiers of Flight is over in Addison/Dallas.

>Enjoy 
>Cris H. 

It takes some serious logistical support to have an event like this. The KAM museum director is actively supporting this event and is on the Cockpit-Fest comittee. At the moment CF nearly a 2nd job for me.

The former Curator of the Frontiers of Flight musuem couldn't pull togther a Cockpit-Fest Dallas due to the lack of support in the museum. So he now hauls his cockpit up here from Ft. Worth to join us.

On another note, today Pilot Edge became a CF sponsor by donating a PE membership as a simulator?award. Keith also plans to attend in person.

Justin
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From jjmessenger at yahoo.com  Sun Apr 14 16:04:41 2013
From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 16:04:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Cockpit-Fest
Message-ID: <1365980681.97214.YahooMailNeo@web140204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>



? 
>Hehe. I'm not moving mine. Nor would I EVER be insane enough to let the general public near it. As it is, a visitor in the past 4 or 5 years may have swiped the F/A-18 >flight grip I had...

>g.
?
You could do as Chris Woodul does, He sits in the F-111 and makes the masses look over the edge, wishing they could sit inside too. Only VIPs get invitations to enter.
?
On a side note, one of the judges for the simulator category is flying here from the Seattle area (again). He's a Viperpits member. The Viperpit gang are putting together a slick F-16 exhibit. Saturday at noon the former McConnell ANG F-16 wing commander is going to have an autograph session with them and then show off his videos of 9g training in a Gsimulator.
http://www.simadventure.com/?
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From phoenixcomm at gmail.com  Mon Apr 15 11:59:54 2013
From: phoenixcomm at gmail.com (Cris Harrison)
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 13:59:54 -0500
Subject: [simpits-tech] Cockpit-Fest
In-Reply-To: <1365980593.13421.YahooMailNeo@web140205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <mailman.90.1365973994.2483.simpits-tech@simpits.org>
	<1365980593.13421.YahooMailNeo@web140205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAAqDk_7vL_bCmJboBtBk2n+bRM+Jg5it=pbu2GFi6YRZr+AqQA@mail.gmail.com>

We have a few things every year.. unfortunately I do not have the money to
travel as I am retired AF Crew Chief (Lead Sled), it was a shame to see
them all retired. I had the privilege of back seating twice... It was the
best ride in the dam park.  . . I get to Dallas quite a bit though..
But I'm kind of trapped here w/o a working car..
and life goes on... tick tock


On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Justin Messenger <jjmessenger at yahoo.com>wrote:

> >hey what about doing something down here in FT Worth??? I belong to
> Greatest Generation Aircraft http://www.gga1.org/
> >They might host an event.. we even have flying B-25 and Dakota. the ME262
> is also on this field, and Frontiers of Flight is over in Addison/Dallas.
>
> >Enjoy
> >Cris H.
>
> It takes some serious logistical support to have an event like this. The
> KAM museum director is actively supporting this event and is on the
> Cockpit-Fest comittee. At the moment CF nearly a 2nd job for me.
>
> The former Curator of the Frontiers of Flight musuem couldn't pull
> togther a Cockpit-Fest Dallas due to the lack of support in the museum. So
> he now hauls his cockpit up here from Ft. Worth to join us.
>
> On another note, today Pilot Edge became a CF sponsor by donating a PE
> membership as a simulator award. Keith also plans to attend in person.
>
> Justin
>
>
>
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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Tue Apr 16 13:51:33 2013
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (geneb)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 13:51:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Jetstar cockpit for sale...
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.03.1304161351170.30470@deltasoft.com>


http://www.thejetstreamgroup.net/jetstar.html

Hell of a deal. :)

g.

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From phoenixcomm at gmail.com  Tue Apr 16 15:07:47 2013
From: phoenixcomm at gmail.com (Cris Harrison)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 17:07:47 -0500
Subject: [simpits-tech] Jetstar cockpit for sale...
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.03.1304161351170.30470@deltasoft.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.03.1304161351170.30470@deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <CAAqDk_75FvTP=kSnqQuOJuvUkJTQND_6qZ3SyW46_0F9Sm7O1g@mail.gmail.com>

Hey G... I'll buy it... the only problem is no cash...but you can loan it
to me of course?,
LOL
Cirs

On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 3:51 PM, geneb <geneb at deltasoft.com> wrote:

>
> http://www.thejetstreamgroup.net/jetstar.html
>
> Hell of a deal. :)
>
> g.
>
> --
> Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
> http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
> http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home.
> Some people collect things for a hobby.  Geeks collect hobbies.
>
> ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
> A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
> http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!
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From jjmessenger at yahoo.com  Sat Apr 20 07:49:04 2013
From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 07:49:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] 1st test flight with Cobra sim
Message-ID: <1366469344.93128.YahooMailNeo@web140204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZoItewV944
?
Today Cody is working on the canopy. it should be a slick set up for Cockpit-Fest
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From bjones at pipecomp.com.au  Mon Apr 22 06:06:40 2013
From: bjones at pipecomp.com.au (Ben Jones)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 13:06:40 +0000
Subject: [simpits-tech] Pilots survival rig o/t
Message-ID: <8F53118713E9C44C865A0FE4E83297CE402B5AC8@SIXPRD0310MB382.apcprd03.prod.outlook.com>

Hi guy's slightly o/t question,
but I know some of you collect flying suits, rigs and helmets.

I'm after a USAF pilots wearable survival rig, (like a h-harness), I don't know the technical name for it to search.

Does anyone know of what I'm after and might be able to point me to a supplier in the US.

I'm going to be doing some over water flying and thought wearing a survival rig and my life jacket might be a good idea,
I'm located in Australia, I don't mind paying for freight.

Any pointers would be super,

Regards

Ben
West Oz
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From Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com  Mon Apr 22 10:36:44 2013
From: Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com (Sean Galbraith)
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 05:36:44 +1200
Subject: [simpits-tech] Pilots survival rig o/t
In-Reply-To: <8F53118713E9C44C865A0FE4E83297CE402B5AC8@SIXPRD0310MB382.apcprd03.prod.outlook.com>
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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Mon Apr 22 12:10:23 2013
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (geneb)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:10:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Retina display hack...
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.03.1304221209500.32085@deltasoft.com>


http://emerythacks.blogspot.com/2013/04/connecting-ipad-retina-lcd-to-pc.html

This would be perfect for doing MFD/MPD/MFCD displays...

g.

-- 
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http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home.
Some people collect things for a hobby.  Geeks collect hobbies.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!

From bjones at pipecomp.com.au  Tue Apr 23 06:58:33 2013
From: bjones at pipecomp.com.au (Ben Jones)
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 13:58:33 +0000
Subject: [simpits-tech] Pilots survival rig o/t
In-Reply-To: <600EFBA0-51F3-44A3-999C-04E3C2EE2305@pacificsimulators.com>
References: <8F53118713E9C44C865A0FE4E83297CE402B5AC8@SIXPRD0310MB382.apcprd03.prod.outlook.com>
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From dabigboy at cox.net  Wed Apr 24 22:37:10 2013
From: dabigboy at cox.net (dabigboy at cox.net)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:37:10 -0700
Subject: [simpits-tech] ARINC 429 over ethernet
Message-ID: <20130425013710.GQGFB.102061.imail@eastrmwml114>

Hey guys, not sure if anyone has noticed this yet, check it out:

http://www.v1avionics.com/

The little box they are developing will allow us to communicate with ARINC 429 hardware. 429 is used for altimeters, HSIs, radios, GPSs, glass displays........imagine the possibilities! This looks like a game-changer, for my simulator at least. I am working on driving synchros (for a nice mechanical HSI, to start with), but this unit would allow me to use newer hardware without even opening up the equipment. Imagine a fully functional "steam" HSI with no mods!

The only disappointing thing is that I didn't figure it out. :P Actually I am in the midst of trying to read ARINC 429 with an Arduino. I think I will eventually get it, but for practical purposes I will probably go with the system that V1 is developing.

Matt

From Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com  Wed Apr 24 23:02:40 2013
From: Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com (Sean Galbraith)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 18:02:40 +1200
Subject: [simpits-tech] ARINC 429 over ethernet
In-Reply-To: <20130425013710.GQGFB.102061.imail@eastrmwml114>
References: <20130425013710.GQGFB.102061.imail@eastrmwml114>
Message-ID: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBE91C1A@PS-CH1.pacsim.local>

Wow!  That sounds like a solution to a *possible* sim build I have
coming up!

SeanG

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Subject: [simpits-tech] ARINC 429 over ethernet

Hey guys, not sure if anyone has noticed this yet, check it out:

http://www.v1avionics.com/

The little box they are developing will allow us to communicate with
ARINC 429 hardware. 429 is used for altimeters, HSIs, radios, GPSs,
glass displays........imagine the possibilities! This looks like a
game-changer, for my simulator at least. I am working on driving
synchros (for a nice mechanical HSI, to start with), but this unit would
allow me to use newer hardware without even opening up the equipment.
Imagine a fully functional "steam" HSI with no mods!

The only disappointing thing is that I didn't figure it out. :P Actually
I am in the midst of trying to read ARINC 429 with an Arduino. I think I
will eventually get it, but for practical purposes I will probably go
with the system that V1 is developing.

Matt
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From phoenixcomm at gmail.com  Thu Apr 25 17:05:44 2013
From: phoenixcomm at gmail.com (Cris Harrison)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 19:05:44 -0500
Subject: [simpits-tech] ARINC 429 over ethernet
In-Reply-To: <20130425013710.GQGFB.102061.imail@eastrmwml114>
References: <20130425013710.GQGFB.102061.imail@eastrmwml114>
Message-ID: <CAAqDk_65x38G6PAdkrci0jq7QvucGYsKhk5DGCUmuvgdWtsidA@mail.gmail.com>

I have played with 429 and I hate to tell you but the ardunio will be tooo
slow..
you should look at the TI Stellaris Lauch Pad board for about $25.. Plus
there are great tutorials on the web site as well. but you will need
external receiver. I have some info on I think the transmitter..:)
(discrete parts)
http://www.edn.com/design/communications-networking/4346565/Circuit-transmits-ARINC-429-data

On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 12:37 AM, <dabigboy at cox.net> wrote:

> Hey guys, not sure if anyone has noticed this yet, check it out:
>
> http://www.v1avionics.com/
>
> The little box they are developing will allow us to communicate with ARINC
> 429 hardware. 429 is used for altimeters, HSIs, radios, GPSs, glass
> displays........imagine the possibilities! This looks like a game-changer,
> for my simulator at least. I am working on driving synchros (for a nice
> mechanical HSI, to start with), but this unit would allow me to use newer
> hardware without even opening up the equipment. Imagine a fully functional
> "steam" HSI with no mods!
>
> The only disappointing thing is that I didn't figure it out. :P Actually I
> am in the midst of trying to read ARINC 429 with an Arduino. I think I will
> eventually get it, but for practical purposes I will probably go with the
> system that V1 is developing.
>
> Matt
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From dabigboy at cox.net  Thu Apr 25 22:07:14 2013
From: dabigboy at cox.net (dabigboy at cox.net)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 22:07:14 -0700
Subject: [simpits-tech] ARINC 429 over ethernet
In-Reply-To: <CAAqDk_65x38G6PAdkrci0jq7QvucGYsKhk5DGCUmuvgdWtsidA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20130426010714.S4N9X.28318.root@fed1rmwml105>

See Cris, here's the problem with you, you keep introducing me to all these cool new boards that I then begin to want to go out and buy. :P I haven't even fired up my Raspberry Pi! Anyways, Himar at V1 told me something similar. They actually started with Arduino, but decided an FPGA solution would provide better performance, scalability, and better signal forming. Like I said, I did find someone who has done it, so I will probably follow their lead just so I can understand exactly how it works, but the V1 box will probably be my final solution...plenty of other stuff to busy myself with!

My summer sim project will be synchros....I *think* I have a pretty good idea on how to read as well as drive most synchros, which will open up a lot of possibilities for older hardware.

Thanks for the link though...more 429 gold! I will understand this stuff yet. :)

Matt

---- Cris Harrison <phoenixcomm at gmail.com> wrote: 
> I have played with 429 and I hate to tell you but the ardunio will be tooo
> slow..
> you should look at the TI Stellaris Lauch Pad board for about $25.. Plus
> there are great tutorials on the web site as well. but you will need
> external receiver. I have some info on I think the transmitter..:)
> (discrete parts)
> http://www.edn.com/design/communications-networking/4346565/Circuit-transmits-ARINC-429-data
> 
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 12:37 AM, <dabigboy at cox.net> wrote:
> 
> > Hey guys, not sure if anyone has noticed this yet, check it out:
> >
> > http://www.v1avionics.com/
> >
> > The little box they are developing will allow us to communicate with ARINC
> > 429 hardware. 429 is used for altimeters, HSIs, radios, GPSs, glass
> > displays........imagine the possibilities! This looks like a game-changer,
> > for my simulator at least. I am working on driving synchros (for a nice
> > mechanical HSI, to start with), but this unit would allow me to use newer
> > hardware without even opening up the equipment. Imagine a fully functional
> > "steam" HSI with no mods!
> >
> > The only disappointing thing is that I didn't figure it out. :P Actually I
> > am in the midst of trying to read ARINC 429 with an Arduino. I think I will
> > eventually get it, but for practical purposes I will probably go with the
> > system that V1 is developing.
> >
> > Matt
> > _______________________________________________
> > Simpits-tech mailing list
> > Simpits-tech at simpits.org
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From phoenixcomm at gmail.com  Fri Apr 26 07:35:42 2013
From: phoenixcomm at gmail.com (Cris Harrison)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 09:35:42 -0500
Subject: [simpits-tech] ARINC 429 over ethernet
In-Reply-To: <20130426010714.S4N9X.28318.root@fed1rmwml105>
References: <CAAqDk_65x38G6PAdkrci0jq7QvucGYsKhk5DGCUmuvgdWtsidA@mail.gmail.com>
	<20130426010714.S4N9X.28318.root@fed1rmwml105>
Message-ID: <CAAqDk_66wahKZh6MznfDBDBVCdmQmwBJBX4R43TX9+vKT9VFEg@mail.gmail.com>

oh well thats my job.. ie showing people new shit.. (
btw I did find a usb -> 429 thing but didn't bookmark it..
Now upwards.. on to my favorite subjects 'what you wanted to know but where
afraid to ask' LOL I did a college paper on the math to drive a synchro the
easy way.. piece of cake..
1. synchro review (quick I promise) as you know you put 400hz on the cotrol
windings of a Tx and a Rx synchro's and then  you attach a - a, b - b, and
c - c right? so if you move the Tx the Rx will follow... all good so far?
2. question. if you put 400hz(ref) on a, and then 400hz(+120d) on b, and
then 400hz(+240d) on c what would you need to move the pointer to 120d or
240d on the control windings..

If you can give me the right answer on Saturday afternoon (as I have a day
off today) and no guessing..
I will tell you why and how it works I might even right about it on
my element14 blog LOL
enjoy the puzzle.... LOL[?]

Cris
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 12:07 AM, <dabigboy at cox.net> wrote:

> See Cris, here's the problem with you, you keep introducing me to all
> these cool new boards that I then begin to want to go out and buy. :P I
> haven't even fired up my Raspberry Pi! Anyways, Himar at V1 told me
> something similar. They actually started with Arduino, but decided an FPGA
> solution would provide better performance, scalability, and better signal
> forming. Like I said, I did find someone who has done it, so I will
> probably follow their lead just so I can understand exactly how it works,
> but the V1 box will probably be my final solution...plenty of other stuff
> to busy myself with!
>
> My summer sim project will be synchros....I *think* I have a pretty good
> idea on how to read as well as drive most synchros, which will open up a
> lot of possibilities for older hardware.
>
> Thanks for the link though...more 429 gold! I will understand this stuff
> yet. :)
>
> Matt
>
> ---- Cris Harrison <phoenixcomm at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I have played with 429 and I hate to tell you but the ardunio will be
> tooo
> > slow..
> > you should look at the TI Stellaris Lauch Pad board for about $25.. Plus
> > there are great tutorials on the web site as well. but you will need
> > external receiver. I have some info on I think the transmitter..:)
> > (discrete parts)
> >
> http://www.edn.com/design/communications-networking/4346565/Circuit-transmits-ARINC-429-data
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 12:37 AM, <dabigboy at cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Hey guys, not sure if anyone has noticed this yet, check it out:
> > >
> > > http://www.v1avionics.com/
> > >
> > > The little box they are developing will allow us to communicate with
> ARINC
> > > 429 hardware. 429 is used for altimeters, HSIs, radios, GPSs, glass
> > > displays........imagine the possibilities! This looks like a
> game-changer,
> > > for my simulator at least. I am working on driving synchros (for a nice
> > > mechanical HSI, to start with), but this unit would allow me to use
> newer
> > > hardware without even opening up the equipment. Imagine a fully
> functional
> > > "steam" HSI with no mods!
> > >
> > > The only disappointing thing is that I didn't figure it out. :P
> Actually I
> > > am in the midst of trying to read ARINC 429 with an Arduino. I think I
> will
> > > eventually get it, but for practical purposes I will probably go with
> the
> > > system that V1 is developing.
> > >
> > > Matt
> > > _______________________________________________
>
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