From geneb at deltasoft.com Sun Jan 9 18:39:51 2011 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 18:39:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] bot fire... Message-ID: Wanna see how much damage ONE 1/8" diameter hole can do? http://www.flickr.com/photos/33471283 at N05/ g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com Sun Jan 9 19:59:41 2011 From: Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com (Sean Galbraith) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 16:59:41 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] bot fire... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD0D951@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Wow! That's Hot ;-) SeanG ________________________________ From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Gene Buckle Sent: Monday, 10 January 2011 3:40 p.m. To: simpits-tech at simpits.org Subject: [simpits-tech] bot fire... Wanna see how much damage ONE 1/8" diameter hole can do? http://www.flickr.com/photos/33471283 at N05/ g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! ________________________________ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3369 - Release Date: 01/09/11 ________________________________ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3369 - Release Date: 01/09/11 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20110110/0a99f44c/attachment.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Jan 10 06:27:25 2011 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 06:27:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] bot fire... In-Reply-To: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD0D951@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> References: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD0D951@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Message-ID: On Mon, 10 Jan 2011, Sean Galbraith wrote: > Wow! That's Hot ;-) > > Bad Sean! No donut! :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From frank at rezultat.dk Mon Jan 10 06:30:11 2011 From: frank at rezultat.dk (Frank Riedel) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 15:30:11 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] bot fire... In-Reply-To: References: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD0D951@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Message-ID: Hi G, What is your advice in cutting acrylic ?? Cutter bit, spindel speed, cutter speed and depth ? Regards Frank 2011/1/10 Gene Buckle > On Mon, 10 Jan 2011, Sean Galbraith wrote: > > > Wow! That's Hot ;-) > > > > > Bad Sean! No donut! :) > > g. > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project > > ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment > A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. > http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! > > Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical > minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which > holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd > by the clean end. > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -- *Kindly Regards* *Rezultat* *Frank Riedel* Cell: +45 2424 4169 www.rezultat.dk www.f16simulator.com *YouTube VideoChannel* www.youtube.com/REZULTATdk www.youtube.com/F16SIMULATORcom -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20110110/5bb77928/attachment.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Jan 10 06:37:34 2011 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 06:37:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] bot fire... In-Reply-To: References: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD0D951@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Message-ID: On Mon, 10 Jan 2011, Frank Riedel wrote: > Hi G, > What is your advice in cutting acrylic ?? > Cutter bit, spindel speed, cutter speed and depth ? > Frank, the last acrylic I machined was with a 1/4" "O" flute cutter @ 10,000RPM with a feed rate of 1 inch/sec and a cut depth of 1/8" per pass. Onsrud makes some very good "O" flute cutters specifically for machining acrylic. Note that you'll get better results from cast acrylic as opposed to extruded acrylic. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Mon Jan 10 12:59:14 2011 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 20:59:14 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] bot fire... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 9 Jan 2011, Gene Buckle wrote: > Wanna see how much damage ONE 1/8" diameter hole can do? > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/33471283 at N05/ > This is why I keep all my 1/8" holes in a sealed metal box. -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Jan 10 13:22:26 2011 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 13:22:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] bot fire... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, 10 Jan 2011, Roy Coates wrote: > On Sun, 9 Jan 2011, Gene Buckle wrote: > >> Wanna see how much damage ONE 1/8" diameter hole can do? >> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/33471283 at N05/ >> > > > This is why I keep all my 1/8" holes in a sealed metal box. > ...and here I thought your head was made out of rock! *gd&r* g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Mon Jan 10 15:17:01 2011 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 23:17:01 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] bot fire... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 10 Jan 2011, Gene Buckle wrote: > > > > This is why I keep all my 1/8" holes in a sealed metal box. > > > ...and here I thought your head was made out of rock! *gd&r* > nah, good solid Oak. *knock* *knock* -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Jan 10 16:20:25 2011 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 16:20:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] bot fire... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, 10 Jan 2011, Roy Coates wrote: > On Mon, 10 Jan 2011, Gene Buckle wrote: > >>> >>> This is why I keep all my 1/8" holes in a sealed metal box. >>> >> ...and here I thought your head was made out of rock! *gd&r* >> > > > nah, good solid Oak. *knock* *knock* > I suspect that leaves you pining for the good old days. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com Tue Jan 11 03:01:59 2011 From: Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com (Sean Galbraith) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 00:01:59 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] bot fire... In-Reply-To: References: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD0D951@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Message-ID: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD0D95C@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> I'm cutting acrylic with a 2mm cutter (or 3mm) at 22,000rpm, 1.5mm at a pass, feed speed around 1000mm/min and it gives a beautiful finish. SeanG ________________________________ From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Gene Buckle Sent: Tuesday, 11 January 2011 3:38 a.m. To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] bot fire... On Mon, 10 Jan 2011, Frank Riedel wrote: > Hi G, > What is your advice in cutting acrylic ?? > Cutter bit, spindel speed, cutter speed and depth ? > Frank, the last acrylic I machined was with a 1/4" "O" flute cutter @ 10,000RPM with a feed rate of 1 inch/sec and a cut depth of 1/8" per pass. Onsrud makes some very good "O" flute cutters specifically for machining acrylic. Note that you'll get better results from cast acrylic as opposed to extruded acrylic. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! ________________________________ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3369 - Release Date: 01/09/11 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20110112/9f2b9231/attachment.html From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Tue Jan 11 03:31:44 2011 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 11:31:44 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] bot fire... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 10 Jan 2011, Gene Buckle wrote: > >>> This is why I keep all my 1/8" holes in a sealed metal box. > >>> > >> ...and here I thought your head was made out of rock! *gd&r* > > > > nah, good solid Oak. *knock* *knock* > > > I suspect that leaves you pining for the good old days. :) Knot really. When you get to the root of it, it goes against the grain in my scant opinion. -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Jan 11 05:35:21 2011 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 05:35:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] bot fire... In-Reply-To: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD0D95C@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> References: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD0D951@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD0D95C@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Message-ID: On Wed, 12 Jan 2011, Sean Galbraith wrote: > I'm cutting acrylic with a 2mm cutter (or 3mm) at 22,000rpm, 1.5mm at a > pass, feed speed around 1000mm/min and it gives a beautiful finish. > Must be nice to get that kind of speed. :) My spindle only goes up to 18k. What kind of cutter geometry are you using? g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Jan 11 05:36:23 2011 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 05:36:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] bot fire... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 11 Jan 2011, Roy Coates wrote: > On Mon, 10 Jan 2011, Gene Buckle wrote: > >>>>> This is why I keep all my 1/8" holes in a sealed metal box. >>>>> >>>> ...and here I thought your head was made out of rock! *gd&r* >>> >>> nah, good solid Oak. *knock* *knock* >>> >> I suspect that leaves you pining for the good old days. :) > > > Knot really. When you get to the root of it, it goes against the grain in > my scant opinion. > Heee! :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Jan 20 18:39:00 2011 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 18:39:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] 'bot fire video... Message-ID: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub6X8pjo5ls g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From phoenixcomm at gmail.com Thu Jan 20 19:15:44 2011 From: phoenixcomm at gmail.com (Cris Harrison) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 21:15:44 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] 'bot fire video... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Gene Buckle wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub6X8pjo5ls > > g. > > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project > > ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment > A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. > http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! > > Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical > minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which > holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd > by the clean end. > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -Yo! Gene, Are you trying to burn your place down??? We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act, but a habit. Aristotle www.phoenixcomm.net/~phnx2000/sim www.phoenixtrading.biz / www.phoenixcomm.net / phoenixaerospace.us -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20110120/a0e8070d/attachment-0001.html From Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com Thu Jan 20 19:58:49 2011 From: Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com (Sean Galbraith) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 16:58:49 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] 'bot fire video... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD0D98F@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> So.. if I got the math right here, after 72 more burn / self heal cycles you'll start digging into the shop floor...right? Nice work, wish my little machine would do big work like the 'bot... 10" x 6" is fine for most stuff but, well, I just want M O R E !!! SeanG ________________________________ From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Gene Buckle Sent: Friday, 21 January 2011 3:39 p.m. To: simpits-tech at simpits.org Subject: [simpits-tech] 'bot fire video... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub6X8pjo5ls g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! ________________________________ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3392 - Release Date: 01/20/11 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20110121/cfbe057e/attachment.html From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Fri Jan 21 01:25:28 2011 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 09:25:28 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] 'bot fire video... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 20 Jan 2011, Gene Buckle wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub6X8pjo5ls > Ah, that shopbot is the dog's kahuna's. And I'm not jealous of it at all - you lucky bastard ;-) -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Jan 21 05:44:57 2011 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 05:44:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] 'bot fire video... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 20 Jan 2011, Cris Harrison wrote: > On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Gene Buckle wrote: > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub6X8pjo5ls >> > > -Yo! Gene, > Are you trying to burn your place down??? > Hehe. No, it just comes naturally. :D g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Jan 21 05:52:06 2011 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 05:52:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] 'bot fire video... In-Reply-To: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD0D98F@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> References: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD0D98F@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Message-ID: On Fri, 21 Jan 2011, Sean Galbraith wrote: > So.. if I got the math right here, after 72 more burn / self heal cycles > you'll start digging into the shop floor...right? > > Well that depends on where the start point is at. The f'ing floor is so uneven due to the gibbering incompetant(sp!) contractor that built the shop, it could be a +/- 1" difference from one end of the table to the other. :) > > Nice work, wish my little machine would do big work like the 'bot... 10" > x 6" is fine for most stuff but, well, I just want M O R E !!! > Thanks. I saw a picture of a customized 'bot this morning that blew me away. The table is roughly 20' long by 10' wide and it has at least a 4' Z axis. They apparently use it to carve Kyak(sp?) blanks from solid blocks of white styrofoam. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Fri Jan 21 05:55:47 2011 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 13:55:47 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] 'bot fire video... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 21 Jan 2011, Gene Buckle wrote: > I saw a picture of a customized 'bot this morning that blew me > away. The table is roughly 20' long by 10' wide and it has at least a 4' > Z axis. They apparently use it to carve Kyak(sp?) blanks from solid > blocks of white styrofoam. *thinks* who would want a styrofoam kyak? ;-) -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Jan 21 06:02:57 2011 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 06:02:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] 'bot fire video... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, 21 Jan 2011, Roy Coates wrote: > On Thu, 20 Jan 2011, Gene Buckle wrote: > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub6X8pjo5ls >> > > > Ah, that shopbot is the dog's kahuna's. > > And I'm not jealous of it at all - you lucky bastard ;-) Hehe. You have access to better metalworking toys though. :D g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Jan 21 06:11:14 2011 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 06:11:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] 'bot fire video... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, 21 Jan 2011, Roy Coates wrote: > On Fri, 21 Jan 2011, Gene Buckle wrote: > >> I saw a picture of a customized 'bot this morning that blew me >> away. The table is roughly 20' long by 10' wide and it has at least a 4' >> Z axis. They apparently use it to carve Kyak(sp?) blanks from solid >> blocks of white styrofoam. > > > *thinks* who would want a styrofoam kyak? ;-) > It makes a great starting point for a fiberglass plug mold. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Fri Jan 21 06:18:16 2011 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 14:18:16 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] 'bot fire video... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 21 Jan 2011, Gene Buckle wrote: > > *thinks* who would want a styrofoam kyak? ;-) > > > It makes a great starting point for a fiberglass plug mold. :) That's a lot less fun though. -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Fri Jan 21 06:19:10 2011 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 14:19:10 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] 'bot fire video... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 21 Jan 2011, Gene Buckle wrote: > > Ah, that shopbot is the dog's kahuna's. > > > > And I'm not jealous of it at all - you lucky bastard ;-) > > Hehe. You have access to better metalworking toys though. :D True. I'm exploring our rapid-prototyping stuff at the moment. If I can get my head around 3D CAD then a whole new world of custom parts awaits me. -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From alex at flyinglow.ca Wed Jan 26 21:18:14 2011 From: alex at flyinglow.ca (Alex Wiebe) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 23:18:14 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] From idea to CNC - what software is used Message-ID: So I'm in the process of building my own CNC machine, and am realizing I have lots to learn. I turn here to a collection of hobbyists with much experience. Being on a limited budget (I think my machine has cost less than $200 to date), I am using google's sketchup to try and do the design work for the thing(s) I want to build. I have the Phlatboyz plug in to create g-code for simple 2D cutting guides and LinuxCNC (EMC/Axis) driving the machine. This has worked to cut simple shapes. I can draw a basic looking object with all the measurements set. But getting that drawing to spit out a cutting guide that can be turned into g-code is stumping me. I have found a script for Sketchup called CutList, but it spits out a picture to estimate raw material. If I have a triangle part or a part with a circle in it, that is missing from the picture. And besides, the picture is an extra step to get back into sketchup to feed the Phlatboyz script. Is it do able with what I have (and I just need to do more reading) or am I missing some critical piece of software? Gene - what do you use to take an idea from thought to cut? From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Jan 27 06:51:08 2011 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 06:51:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] From idea to CNC - what software is used In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, 26 Jan 2011, Alex Wiebe wrote: > I have found a script for Sketchup called CutList, but it spits out a > picture to estimate raw material. If I have a triangle part or a part > with a circle in it, that is missing from the picture. And besides, > the picture is an extra step to get back into sketchup to feed the > Phlatboyz script. > I've never heard of CutList before - does it best-fit your parts into pre-defined sheet sizes in order to give you your material requirements? > Is it do able with what I have (and I just need to do more reading) or > am I missing some critical piece of software? > > Gene - what do you use to take an idea from thought to cut? The process I use involves creating the flat parts in AutoCAD, then bringing them into Inventor in order to verify fit, then from there I "panelize" the parts to fit on a 4x8 sheet of material. That step is done in AutoCAD as well. From there I use VCarve Pro to create the tool paths for the ShopBot. VCarve Pro has a _ton_ of post processors for various machine controllers. I suspect that if there's not already one for EMC2 that you could pick a generic g-code post and have it work just fine. You can use the free version of TurboCAD to draw your flat patterns & for the panelize process. If SketchUp imports DXF you can use that for fit checking if you want. The bit you're not going to find for free (at least that I know about) is what VCarve Pro does. You can learn more about VCarve Pro at http://www.vectric.com - they also sell a cut down version called "Cut2D" that might meet your needs. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From stig.joergensen at clearsky.dk Fri Jan 28 18:07:42 2011 From: stig.joergensen at clearsky.dk (Stig Joergensen) Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 03:07:42 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] Looks cool Message-ID: <00a801cbbf59$51975d60$f4c61820$@clearsky.dk> hi gang. The other day, a colleague of mine showed me this.. And I think I would pass it on, as I think some of you might be interested.. http://www.ultimarc.com/ipac1.html but look at the other products as well... And gene.. Could I get you to write a little tutorial about CNC... I mean, what is required? What tools to use? And CAD sw to choose... seems autodesk is very complex, are there simpler 3d tools out there? And on a separate note (last one, I promises)... do any of you, by any chance, have a 747 IPC (Illustrated parts catalogue), preferably for the 400 series, or perhaps even the new 8 series - but in general any model will do.. then please contact me off list thanks. Have a great one. /Stig From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Jan 28 18:28:29 2011 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 18:28:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Looks cool In-Reply-To: <00a801cbbf59$51975d60$f4c61820$@clearsky.dk> References: <00a801cbbf59$51975d60$f4c61820$@clearsky.dk> Message-ID: On Sat, 29 Jan 2011, Stig Joergensen wrote: > hi gang. > > The other day, a colleague of mine showed me this.. > > And I think I would pass it on, as I think some of you might be interested.. > > http://www.ultimarc.com/ipac1.html > > but look at the other products as well... > It's nice for sure. I'll stick to my new Arduino addiction. :D > > And gene.. > > Could I get you to write a little tutorial about CNC... I mean, what is > required? What tools to use? And CAD sw to choose... seems autodesk is very > complex, are there simpler 3d tools out there? > Well the problem is that creating a 3D toolpath isn't a simple process. The software that creates it can be pretty complex and VERY, VERY expensive. Go price MasterCAM or GibbsCAM some time. Your head will explode. That's why I suggested Cut3D. You can do four sided machining and it won't break the bank. For a good tutorial on CNC, try this: http://www.cuttingedgecnc.com/cncmain.htm There's also some other good tutorial sites out there. Stuff that has much better material than I can come up with on short notice. > > And on a separate note (last one, I promises)... > > do any of you, by any chance, have a 747 IPC (Illustrated parts catalogue), > preferably for the 400 series, or perhaps even the new 8 series - but in > general any model will do.. then please contact me off list thanks. > > It might also be known as an Illustrated Parts Breakdown. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com Fri Jan 28 19:34:33 2011 From: Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com (Sean Galbraith) Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 16:34:33 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] Looks cool In-Reply-To: <00a801cbbf59$51975d60$f4c61820$@clearsky.dk> References: <00a801cbbf59$51975d60$f4c61820$@clearsky.dk> Message-ID: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD0D9E6@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> I've looked at their LED controller board, but never used one. Anyone had any experience with it? SeanG ________________________________ From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Stig Joergensen Sent: Saturday, 29 January 2011 3:08 p.m. To: 'Simulator Cockpit Builder's List' Subject: [simpits-tech] Looks cool hi gang. The other day, a colleague of mine showed me this.. And I think I would pass it on, as I think some of you might be interested.. http://www.ultimarc.com/ipac1.html but look at the other products as well... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20110129/29f17434/attachment.html From raysot at comcast.net Fri Jan 28 20:07:56 2011 From: raysot at comcast.net (Ray Sotkiewicz) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 20:07:56 -0800 Subject: [simpits-tech] Arduino and Aircore motors In-Reply-To: References: <00a801cbbf59$51975d60$f4c61820$@clearsky.dk> Message-ID: <4D43929C.3060602@comcast.net> Gene, I am curious about the Arduino interface.. can it drive self-zeroing aircores? It's high-time I add the right hand engine gauges in my F16. I was going to make them servo-driven but the tight form factor may prevent that. (Besides.. I have several new aircore motors just laying around...) From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Jan 28 20:24:55 2011 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 20:24:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Arduino and Aircore motors In-Reply-To: <4D43929C.3060602@comcast.net> References: <00a801cbbf59$51975d60$f4c61820$@clearsky.dk> <4D43929C.3060602@comcast.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 28 Jan 2011, Ray Sotkiewicz wrote: > Gene, > > I am curious about the Arduino interface.. can it drive self-zeroing > aircores? It's high-time I add the right hand engine gauges in my F16. I > was going to make them servo-driven but the tight form factor may > prevent that. (Besides.. I have several new aircore motors just laying > around...) The Arduino can easily do the job given the right driver chip (I don't recall the device number right now, but it's the same one in the aircore projects listed in Mike Powell's books). The only thing I haven't had time to chase down is the code to drive it. The Arduino has the potential to be an insanely great, insanely cheap interface. It's 90% software after you add the right Shields to it AND it'll talk at 250,000 bps. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From raysot at comcast.net Fri Jan 28 21:18:28 2011 From: raysot at comcast.net (Ray Sotkiewicz) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 21:18:28 -0800 Subject: [simpits-tech] Arduino and Aircore motors In-Reply-To: References: <00a801cbbf59$51975d60$f4c61820$@clearsky.dk> <4D43929C.3060602@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4D43A324.1050507@comcast.net> Thanks, Gene... That sounds like a lot of coding/soldering/drinking (Not in that particular order =) Know of anything a little more PnP for aircores? On 1/28/2011 8:24 PM, Gene Buckle wrote: > On Fri, 28 Jan 2011, Ray Sotkiewicz wrote: > >> Gene, >> >> I am curious about the Arduino interface.. can it drive self-zeroing >> aircores? It's high-time I add the right hand engine gauges in my F16. I >> was going to make them servo-driven but the tight form factor may >> prevent that. (Besides.. I have several new aircore motors just laying >> around...) > The Arduino can easily do the job given the right driver chip (I don't > recall the device number right now, but it's the same one in the aircore > projects listed in Mike Powell's books). The only thing I haven't had > time to chase down is the code to drive it. > > The Arduino has the potential to be an insanely great, insanely cheap > interface. It's 90% software after you add the right Shields to it AND > it'll talk at 250,000 bps. > > g. > > > From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Jan 28 21:47:08 2011 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 21:47:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Arduino and Aircore motors In-Reply-To: <4D43A324.1050507@comcast.net> References: <00a801cbbf59$51975d60$f4c61820$@clearsky.dk> <4D43929C.3060602@comcast.net> <4D43A324.1050507@comcast.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 28 Jan 2011, Ray Sotkiewicz wrote: > Thanks, Gene... > > That sounds like a lot of coding/soldering/drinking (Not in that > particular order =) > > Know of anything a little more PnP for aircores? > For air cores, the Arduino is going to be the shortest path to where you want to go unfortunately. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From alex at flyinglow.ca Sat Jan 29 09:27:14 2011 From: alex at flyinglow.ca (Alex Wiebe) Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 11:27:14 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] From idea to CNC - what software is used Message-ID: > I've never heard of CutList before - does it best-fit your parts into > pre-defined sheet sizes in order to give you your material requirements? Yes and spit out a bill of materials. The problems are a) it appears to only use square bounding boxes for the parts and b) outputs a jpeg or gif - not a drawing in Sketchup. > The process I use involves creating the flat parts in AutoCAD, then > bringing them into Inventor in order to verify fit, then from there I > "panelize" the parts to fit on a 4x8 sheet of material. That step is done > in AutoCAD as well. From there I use VCarve Pro to create the tool paths > for the ShopBot. Do you have a link for Inventor? Is it an AutoCAD plugin? or stand alone product? > You can use the free version of TurboCAD to draw your flat patterns & for > the panelize process. Will look into that - thanks. I'm also going to try zomadiCAM mentioned from the ShopBot page. It might be able to get me close enough so that the Phlatboyz script can take over. (http://code.google.com/p/zomadicam/ - now abandoned? last update in 2007?) From geneb at deltasoft.com Sat Jan 29 09:53:20 2011 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 09:53:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] From idea to CNC - what software is used In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, 29 Jan 2011, Alex Wiebe wrote: >> I've never heard of CutList before - does it best-fit your parts into >> pre-defined sheet sizes in order to give you your material requirements? > > Yes and spit out a bill of materials. The problems are a) it appears > to only use square bounding boxes for the parts and b) outputs a jpeg > or gif - not a drawing in Sketchup. > Ahh, ok. Useless then. :) >> The process I use involves creating the flat parts in AutoCAD, then >> bringing them into Inventor in order to verify fit, then from there I >> "panelize" the parts to fit on a 4x8 sheet of material. That step is done >> in AutoCAD as well. From there I use VCarve Pro to create the tool paths >> for the ShopBot. > > Do you have a link for Inventor? Is it an AutoCAD plugin? or stand > alone product? > It's a stand-alone product. Not cheap either. >> You can use the free version of TurboCAD to draw your flat patterns & for >> the panelize process. > > Will look into that - thanks. > You might be best served by using TurboCAD to create your flat part drawings and then use Cut2D by Vectric to create the tool paths. You can download a trial edition of Cut2D to see how it works - they've also got training videos that show how it's used. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From phoenixcomm at gmail.com Sun Jan 30 14:12:26 2011 From: phoenixcomm at gmail.com (Cris Harrison) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 16:12:26 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Looks cool In-Reply-To: <00a801cbbf59$51975d60$f4c61820$@clearsky.dk> References: <00a801cbbf59$51975d60$f4c61820$@clearsky.dk> Message-ID: On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 8:07 PM, Stig Joergensen < stig.joergensen at clearsky.dk> wrote: > hi gang. > > The other day, a colleague of mine showed me this.. > > And I think I would pass it on, as I think some of you might be > interested.. > > http://www.ultimarc.com/ipac1.html > > but look at the other products as well... > > > And gene.. > > Could I get you to write a little tutorial about CNC... I mean, what is > required? What tools to use? And CAD sw to choose... seems autodesk is very > complex, are there simpler 3d tools out there? > > > And on a separate note (last one, I promises)... > > do any of you, by any chance, have a 747 IPC (Illustrated parts catalogue), > preferably for the 400 series, or perhaps even the new 8 series - but in > general any model will do.. then please contact me off list thanks. > > > Have a great one. > > /Stig > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > hey guys you should check out www.linuxCNC.org looks good and its FREE. Cris We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act, but a habit. Aristotle www.phoenixcomm.net/~phnx2000/sim www.phoenixtrading.biz / www.phoenixcomm.net / phoenixaerospace.us -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20110130/36a77d60/attachment.html From phoenixcomm at gmail.com Sun Jan 30 14:15:53 2011 From: phoenixcomm at gmail.com (Cris Harrison) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 16:15:53 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Arduino and Aircore motors In-Reply-To: References: <00a801cbbf59$51975d60$f4c61820$@clearsky.dk> <4D43929C.3060602@comcast.net> Message-ID: On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Gene Buckle wrote: > On Fri, 28 Jan 2011, Ray Sotkiewicz wrote: > > > Gene, > > > > I am curious about the Arduino interface.. can it drive self-zeroing > > aircores? It's high-time I add the right hand engine gauges in my F16. I > > was going to make them servo-driven but the tight form factor may > > prevent that. (Besides.. I have several new aircore motors just laying > > around...) > > The Arduino can easily do the job given the right driver chip (I don't > recall the device number right now, but it's the same one in the aircore > projects listed in Mike Powell's books). The only thing I haven't had > time to chase down is the code to drive it. > > The Arduino has the potential to be an insanely great, insanely cheap > interface. It's 90% software after you add the right Shields to it AND > it'll talk at 250,000 bps. > > g. > > > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project > > ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment > A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. > http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! > > Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical > minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which > holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd > by the clean end. > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > you can get aircore motors here: http://www.simcoltd.com/specialty-oem/micro-air-core/ Cris We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act, but a habit. Aristotle www.phoenixcomm.net/~phnx2000/sim www.phoenixtrading.biz / www.phoenixcomm.net / phoenixaerospace.us -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20110130/6239e615/attachment.html From raysot at comcast.net Sun Jan 30 19:10:20 2011 From: raysot at comcast.net (Ray Sotkiewicz) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 19:10:20 -0800 Subject: [simpits-tech] Arduino and Aircore motors In-Reply-To: References: <00a801cbbf59$51975d60$f4c61820$@clearsky.dk> <4D43929C.3060602@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4D46281C.5030509@comcast.net> So let me see if I got this right for the Arduino interface: 1. Write an app that extracts FSUIPC data 2. Send it via the same app to the Arduino card using the downloadable Arduino C library 3. Build an aircore driver interface using possibly the 14-pin DIP (Yay!) LM 1819 (PWM driver, not the analog version) 4. Connect to Arduino PWM output to the LM1819 PWM input 5. Serve and enjoy! If that looks good(?), I'm going to pull the trigger on this... On 1/30/2011 2:15 PM, Cris Harrison wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Gene Buckle > wrote: > > On Fri, 28 Jan 2011, Ray Sotkiewicz wrote: > > > Gene, > > > > I am curious about the Arduino interface.. can it drive self-zeroing > > aircores? It's high-time I add the right hand engine gauges in > my F16. I > > was going to make them servo-driven but the tight form factor may > > prevent that. (Besides.. I have several new aircore motors just > laying > > around...) > > The Arduino can easily do the job given the right driver chip (I don't > recall the device number right now, but it's the same one in the > aircore > projects listed in Mike Powell's books). The only thing I haven't had > time to chase down is the code to drive it. > > The Arduino has the potential to be an insanely great, insanely cheap > interface. It's 90% software after you add the right Shields to > it AND > it'll talk at 250,000 bps. > > g. > > > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project > > ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment > A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. > http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! > > Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, > illogical > minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream > media, which > holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick > up a turd > by the clean end. > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the > above page. Thanks! > > > > you can get aircore motors here: > http://www.simcoltd.com/specialty-oem/micro-air-core/ > > Cris > > > > > We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act, > but a habit. > Aristotle > > www.phoenixcomm.net/~phnx2000/sim > > www.phoenixtrading.biz / > www.phoenixcomm.net / phoenixaerospace.us > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20110130/9e3caa91/attachment-0001.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Jan 31 06:54:02 2011 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 06:54:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Arduino and Aircore motors In-Reply-To: References: <00a801cbbf59$51975d60$f4c61820$@clearsky.dk> <4D43929C.3060602@comcast.net> Message-ID: On Sun, 30 Jan 2011, Cris Harrison wrote: > > you can get aircore motors here: > http://www.simcoltd.com/specialty-oem/micro-air-core/ > I bought 10 of them as part of a group buy that some guys from Viperpits put together. You can't buy from them in tiny quantities at an affordable price. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Jan 31 07:16:48 2011 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 07:16:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Arduino and Aircore motors In-Reply-To: <4D46281C.5030509@comcast.net> References: <00a801cbbf59$51975d60$f4c61820$@clearsky.dk> <4D43929C.3060602@comcast.net> <4D46281C.5030509@comcast.net> Message-ID: On Sun, 30 Jan 2011, Ray Sotkiewicz wrote: > > So let me see if I got this right for the Arduino interface: > > 1. Write an app that extracts FSUIPC data Yes. > 2. Send it via the same app to the Arduino card using the downloadable > Arduino C library Well you'll need to write an application that runs *on* the Arduino (Atmel ATMega 328 in this case) to control the air core motors. The application on the PC will just shove data at the Arduino via the serial port. > 3. Build an aircore driver interface using possibly the 14-pin DIP (Yay!) LM > 1819 (PWM driver, not the analog version) > 4. Connect to Arduino PWM output to the LM1819 PWM input I would recommend using the chip that Mike specs in his books (LM298?). I suspect they're cheaper and much easier to find than the LM1819. The software on the microcontroller end would be a bit more complex, but you'd get more bang from your buck. Mike, please step in if I'm incorrect, but I think the air-core board in the BSAI & BRFS books uses four lines from the microcontroller, which means you can easily drive four air-core based instruments from a single Arduino Uno or Deumillanove(sp!). You can get Chinese mfg. Arduino boards off of eBay vendors for about $10 each if you don't want to pay full-boat from SparkFun. You might also want to look into the Seeduino and other "'duino" work-alikes. An Arduno "cockpit stack" consists of two Centipede Shields (64 channels of digital I/O, $20 each) one Mux Shield (48 channels, analog or digital input or digital output, $24 each) and an Arduno Uno/Deumillanove at the bottom. This gives you all the I/O you could possibly need for a "typical" cockpit for under $100. When we get the collimating mirror project completed, I'm going to start work on the F-15 again and part of that will be to write some code for Lightning's JoyMapper program that will allow an Arduino to appear like a DirectX joystick, much like it does for the PHCC hardware. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.