From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Aug 1 06:27:09 2011 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 06:27:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Leo's BU036 and encoders In-Reply-To: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC70@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> References: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC64@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC70@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Aug 2011, Sean Galbraith wrote: > No, Leo is very much alive and kicking... he's involved in some pretty > sexy sim stuff, outside of his own controllers; http://www.emuteq.com/ > I've used one of the GNS530's in a project and I can say it's pretty > slick. > [Roy, I was referring to Leo Bodnar, not Leo Lacava (Beta Innovations)] > Gene: Don't look at Grayhill encoders then... we use those in our > commercial products, and to date have failed only one... but the price > is beyond the average home cockpit builder! > Yeah, I've got a few of those I found surplus. They're made like tanks. :) > Roy: The controller I am interested to see if it will talk to encoders > is the plain vanilla BU036, the X says it does, but the config tool for > the basic one has config settings for encoders as well. Even if I have > to go for the X it will be a cheap encoder interface. If you do get a > chance to fire up the X you have and try it with encoders I'd be keen to > hear what you think of it.. might be a good cheap solution for my needs > :) Sean, I thought the only difference between the normal and the "X" version was the X version came with the screw terminal blocks.... g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From jmiguez at bellsouth.net Mon Aug 1 06:34:43 2011 From: jmiguez at bellsouth.net (John Miguez) Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 08:34:43 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Leo's BU036 and encoders In-Reply-To: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC70@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> References: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC64@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC70@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Message-ID: <4E36AB73.4060009@bellsouth.net> I have used the basic BU036 for encoders. It worked fine, so long as you don't turn too fast. I don't believe it can do fast vs slow turns. John On 1:59 PM, Sean Galbraith wrote: > No, Leo is very much alive and kicking... he's involved in some pretty > sexy sim stuff, outside of his own controllers; http://www.emuteq.com/ > I've used one of the GNS530's in a project and I can say it's pretty > slick. > > Oh, and if you have a blown up one he says that he'll replace it.... > might be worth an email.... > > Gene: Don't look at Grayhill encoders then... we use those in our > commercial products, and to date have failed only one... but the price > is beyond the average home cockpit builder! > > Roy: The controller I am interested to see if it will talk to encoders > is the plain vanilla BU036, the X says it does, but the config tool for > the basic one has config settings for encoders as well. Even if I have > to go for the X it will be a cheap encoder interface. If you do get a > chance to fire up the X you have and try it with encoders I'd be keen to > hear what you think of it.. might be a good cheap solution for my needs > :) > > SeanG > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech- >> bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Rick Davis >> Sent: Monday, 1 August 2011 1:48 p.m. >> To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List >> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Leo's BU036 and encoders >> >>>>> It would be nice to find a source of reasonably priced > dual-concentric >>>>> encoders... >>>>> >>>> >>>> You're not wrong. Don't often see them and when you do, the price >>>> requires >>>> the sale of a kidney or a spare testicle. >>>> >>> Yep. The ones that Leo sells are somewhere near $40 USD each. >>> >>> g. >>> >> I thought Leo was out of business, dead, left the continent or > vaporized? >> I bought two for 38.00 CDN each a few years ago. One I can't find, and > the >> other I blew up. >> >> Of course, the one I can find is of the blown up variety. >> >> :( >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Simpits-tech mailing list >> Simpits-tech at simpits.org >> http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >> To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above >> page. Thanks! From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Aug 1 06:42:23 2011 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 06:42:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Saitek yoke opinions? In-Reply-To: <20110801025340.1Q5NT.1415312.imail@fed1rmwml33> References: <20110801025340.1Q5NT.1415312.imail@fed1rmwml33> Message-ID: On Sun, 31 Jul 2011, dabigboy at cox.net wrote: > Hi all, well I have an interesting arrangement for the yoke on my sim, > but it's a bit flimsy, and I don't have a handy way to provide any > resistance. My problem is I have very little space to work with. Buying > an off-the-shelf unit and adapting it to my fancy yoke grip seems the > best method, but I don't want to shell out the big bux for a PFC unit. > > I have a Saitek throttle quad, and while it's a far cry from a real > unit, it beats out every other hobby-grade quad I've seen. I'm thinking > of getting Saitek's matching yoke and replacing its yoke grip with mine. > It has the steel shaft, actual bearings, etc. But I don't have any way > to get my hands on one to try it out. Has anyone tried this model? How > does it compare to, say, a basic PFC yoke? Is it notchy or > plastic-feeling? Much flexing? > Is there a Fry's local to you? I know they carry a lot of the Saitek gear. I recently ordered one of their vernier throttle quadrants that I'll be using with PFC-like yoke I bought about five years ago. [I'm tired of scratch building stuff I don't have to.] g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Aug 1 06:58:32 2011 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 06:58:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] OpenRJ In-Reply-To: <20110801012839.RYQID.1415039.imail@fed1rmwml33> References: <20110801012839.RYQID.1415039.imail@fed1rmwml33> Message-ID: On Sun, 31 Jul 2011, dabigboy at cox.net wrote: > Interesting. FWIW, I'm working on a network-based OpenGL glass cockpit > display (well, adaptable to simulated steam gauges too, of course), > which is fairly far along now. It's also written in Python, > coincidentally, making it wonderfully cross-platform. Most of my > development work stopped/paused late last year because it's reached a > point where it takes care of most of my immediate needs, but soon I will > be moving ahead with engine instrumentation and more nav stuff. That sounds pretty slick. Are you using pygame for the graphics? I'd love to see screen shots. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From bjones at pipecomp.com.au Mon Aug 1 06:59:17 2011 From: bjones at pipecomp.com.au (bjones at pipecomp.com.au) Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 21:59:17 +0800 (WST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Saitek yoke opinions? In-Reply-To: References: <20110801025340.1Q5NT.1415312.imail@fed1rmwml33> Message-ID: <039701cc5053$275c74a0$76155de0$@com.au> Gene will never be tired of scratch building........ Common don't lie to us!! :) B. -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Gene Buckle [I'm tired of scratch building stuff I don't have to.] g. From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Aug 1 07:23:05 2011 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 07:23:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Saitek yoke opinions? In-Reply-To: <039701cc5053$275c74a0$76155de0$@com.au> References: <20110801025340.1Q5NT.1415312.imail@fed1rmwml33> <039701cc5053$275c74a0$76155de0$@com.au> Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Aug 2011, bjones at pipecomp.com.au wrote: > Gene will never be tired of scratch building........ Common don't lie to > us!! :) > Ben it's gotten to the point where I have a choice. I can spend the time building some accessory I need, or I can buy it and actually have time to USE it. For example, the collimated display project requires a whole new cockpit from the ground up. I could spend a pile of time building out all the systems that will be needed, or I can save a ton of time by either buying or re-purposing what I need. I'm going for two aircraft configurations, one will be a center-stick fighter type and the other will be a yoke based GA type. I'll build a new seat, instrument panel & side console boxes and then drop-in commercial controls. I figured I'd rather take the debt hit than spend another pile of hours that would eventually cost the same in time and materials. The GA rig will be glass and will use a re-cased Elite radio stack. The combat rig will also be glass with some random military panels thrown in for looks. I really, really want to get back to work on the F-15 as well. Friday I found an 8" 800x600 LCD panel that I'll be able to use in the MPCD. The current build uses a 7" mono VGA display which isn't correct, but was all I could find at the time. The 8" display should fit within the MPCD enclosure so I can keep it as a removable "box". The VSD (radar) display uses a 5" mono VGA display that has some "tearing" issues at the top corner of the display. I'll look into curing that, but if I can't, I've got a 5.6" color LCD panel I can drop in there. Because of research Mike Powell did on building non-collimated HUDs, I may be able to rebuild the HUD I have in such a way as to make it usable. I've got pretty much all the parts & electronics I need for the F-15, so I just need to sit down and start the integration process. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Mon Aug 1 14:26:11 2011 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 22:26:11 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] Leo's BU036 and encoders In-Reply-To: References: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC64@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC70@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Message-ID: On 1 August 2011 14:27, Gene Buckle wrote: > > > [Roy, I was referring to Leo Bodnar, not Leo Lacava (Beta Innovations)] > Me too! > > Sean, I thought the only difference between the normal and the "X" version > was the X version came with the screw terminal blocks.... > AFAIK, that is indeed the case. The screw terminals are actually 'push to release' types and seem pretty nice. Didn't get a chance to hook anything up today, rushed off my feet. Roy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20110801/7d7fd580/attachment.html From Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com Mon Aug 1 16:24:55 2011 From: Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com (Sean Galbraith) Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 11:24:55 +1200 Subject: [simpits-tech] Leo's BU036 and encoders In-Reply-To: References: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC64@PS-CH1.pacsim.local><2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC70@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Message-ID: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC85@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> > > Roy: The controller I am interested to see if it will talk to encoders > > is the plain vanilla BU036, the X says it does, but the config tool for > > the basic one has config settings for encoders as well. Even if I have > > to go for the X it will be a cheap encoder interface. If you do get a > > chance to fire up the X you have and try it with encoders I'd be keen to > > hear what you think of it.. might be a good cheap solution for my needs > > :) > > Sean, I thought the only difference between the normal and the "X" version > was the X version came with the screw terminal blocks.... > > g. Yeah, that's what I am thinking, but I hadn't heard from anyone who ad actually used them for encoders :) SeanG From Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com Mon Aug 1 16:25:30 2011 From: Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com (Sean Galbraith) Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 11:25:30 +1200 Subject: [simpits-tech] Leo's BU036 and encoders In-Reply-To: <4E36AB73.4060009@bellsouth.net> References: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC64@PS-CH1.pacsim.local><2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC70@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> <4E36AB73.4060009@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC86@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> > I have used the basic BU036 for encoders. It worked fine, so long as you > don't turn too fast. I don't believe it can do fast vs slow turns. > > John Thanks John, that's the answer I was looking for... off to place an order :) SeanG From Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com Mon Aug 1 16:28:53 2011 From: Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com (Sean Galbraith) Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 11:28:53 +1200 Subject: [simpits-tech] Saitek yoke opinions? In-Reply-To: <20110801025340.1Q5NT.1415312.imail@fed1rmwml33> References: <20110801025340.1Q5NT.1415312.imail@fed1rmwml33> Message-ID: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC87@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> > Hi all, well I have an interesting arrangement for the yoke on my sim, but > it's a bit flimsy, and I don't have a handy way to provide any resistance. > My problem is I have very little space to work with. Buying an off-the- > shelf unit and adapting it to my fancy yoke grip seems the best method, > but I don't want to shell out the big bux for a PFC unit. > > I have a Saitek throttle quad, and while it's a far cry from a real unit, > it beats out every other hobby-grade quad I've seen. I'm thinking of > getting Saitek's matching yoke and replacing its yoke grip with mine. It > has the steel shaft, actual bearings, etc. But I don't have any way to get > my hands on one to try it out. Has anyone tried this model? How does it > compare to, say, a basic PFC yoke? Is it notchy or plastic-feeling? Much > flexing? I can't compare it to PFC, only ever seen/touched one, but never "flown" with it. I have a Saitek, and after many years of not being satisfied with the various CH yokes I can say that I really like the Saitek yoke/throttle. It still has a little internal flex when you push/pull with just one hand on the yoke, but with the steel shaft it has a much nicer feel than the CH offering (unless the latest version is any better...) It doesn't really compare with high end all steel and linear bearings, but for a consumer product it's hard to beat, especially at the price! SeanG From Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com Mon Aug 1 16:33:31 2011 From: Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com (Sean Galbraith) Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 11:33:31 +1200 Subject: [simpits-tech] Leo's BU036 and encoders In-Reply-To: <20110801014412.4Q782.1415105.imail@fed1rmwml33> References: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC64@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> <20110801014412.4Q782.1415105.imail@fed1rmwml33> Message-ID: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC8A@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> > Pics? Sounds kinda like what I'm doing at the moment, although I have a > head-start on the structure part of it......I managed to get my hands on > the high-quality, T6-aluminum complete instrument panel desktop shell that > an actual avionics maker used to take to trade shows to demo their gear > in. It even includes what appears to be a real yoke, with some aircraft- > quality switches inside it. But it's really just a way for me to cut my > teeth and get some experience under my belt for when I have more room, and > run down to a local aircraft salvage yard and pick out a Learjet nose > section to make into a sim........ :D We're lucky here, the local yard not > only regularly parts out biz jets and turboprops, the owner is not only > aware of simmers, but embraces the hobby and has worked with a lot of > folks needing real shells or parts for recreational sims. I called him > last year, and as soon as I mentioned "homebuilt flight simulator", he was > all over it. :) Wow... I need a salvage yard like that :) I don't have pics yet, mostly sketches and some drawings, mostly compiled in hotel rooms around the world while I'm travelling.... gotta do something when I am killing time away from home! With a bit of luck the main structure will get cut and assembled in the next few weekends, then it should start to take shape pretty quickly... *then* there will be pics.. promise :) > > So far my little desktop sim has been just a little money, even less > space, but a MOUNTAIN of TIME! It's taken me a year to get to the current > stage, but I can fly it around now and work all my main controls except > flaps (will be on the avionics/center panel), plus run the main electrical > and ancillary systems and lights from real switches etc. My turn; Pics? :) SeanG From dabigboy at cox.net Mon Aug 1 17:08:51 2011 From: dabigboy at cox.net (dabigboy at cox.net) Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 17:08:51 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] Leo's BU036 and encoders In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110801200851.AL21C.400360.imail@fed1rmwml39> ---- Roy Coates wrote: > On 1 August 2011 14:27, Gene Buckle wrote: > > > > Sean, I thought the only difference between the normal and the "X" version > > was the X version came with the screw terminal blocks.... > > > > AFAIK, that is indeed the case. The screw terminals are actually 'push to > release' types and seem pretty nice. > > Didn't get a chance to hook anything up today, rushed off my feet. The fancy version has more input pins, which is why I would purchase it. I'm doing the diode thing right now but my project board has some weak solder joints (if I'd known the local wholesale tool shop had new soldering irons for $2.97 a piece I would have replaced my grotty one ages ago....). I wonder if you could do the diode thing with the bigger board and get MEGA inputs? :) Matt From jmiguez at bellsouth.net Mon Aug 1 17:10:27 2011 From: jmiguez at bellsouth.net (John Miguez) Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 19:10:27 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Leo's BU036 and encoders In-Reply-To: References: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC64@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC70@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Message-ID: <4E374073.1050202@bellsouth.net> The X is also a 12bit vs I think 8 bit processor. John On 1:59 PM, Roy Coates wrote: > On 1 August 2011 14:27, Gene Buckle > wrote: > > > > [Roy, I was referring to Leo Bodnar, not Leo Lacava (Beta > Innovations)] > > > Me too! > > > Sean, I thought the only difference between the normal and the "X" > version > was the X version came with the screw terminal blocks.... > > > AFAIK, that is indeed the case. The screw terminals are actually > 'push to release' types and seem pretty nice. > > Didn't get a chance to hook anything up today, rushed off my feet. > > Roy. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20110801/8a77ca16/attachment.html From dabigboy at cox.net Mon Aug 1 17:39:57 2011 From: dabigboy at cox.net (dabigboy at cox.net) Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 17:39:57 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] Saitek yoke opinions? In-Reply-To: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC87@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Message-ID: <20110801203957.J4P7L.400698.imail@fed1rmwml39> ---- Sean Galbraith wrote: > > I can't compare it to PFC, only ever seen/touched one, but never "flown" > with it. I have a Saitek, and after many years of not being satisfied > with the various CH yokes I can say that I really like the Saitek > yoke/throttle. It still has a little internal flex when you push/pull > with just one hand on the yoke, but with the steel shaft it has a much > nicer feel than the CH offering (unless the latest version is any > better...) It doesn't really compare with high end all steel and linear > bearings, but for a consumer product it's hard to beat, especially at > the price! Interesting. As long as the shaft itself is mounted pretty secure, I couldn't care less about wobble on the yoke itself....I would be removing the Saitek yoke and installing my real yoke in its place, with an appropriate shaft adapter. The stock yoke does look like it would be wobbly and chinsy. Thanks for the info! Matt From dabigboy at cox.net Mon Aug 1 22:48:38 2011 From: dabigboy at cox.net (dabigboy at cox.net) Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 22:48:38 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] OpenRJ Message-ID: <20110802014838.OFYSF.403710.imail@fed1rmwml39> ---- Gene Buckle wrote: > On Sun, 31 Jul 2011, dabigboy at cox.net wrote: > > > Interesting. FWIW, I'm working on a network-based OpenGL glass cockpit > > display (well, adaptable to simulated steam gauges too, of course), > > which is fairly far along now. It's also written in Python, > > coincidentally, making it wonderfully cross-platform. Most of my > > development work stopped/paused late last year because it's reached a > > point where it takes care of most of my immediate needs, but soon I will > > be moving ahead with engine instrumentation and more nav stuff. > > That sounds pretty slick. Are you using pygame for the graphics? I'd > love to see screen shots. :) You know, after incrementally improving it over months and months, now that I summarize everything, it DOES sound pretty darn cool. :) I'm using PyOpenGL for most of the stuff, but Pygame is used for setting up the OpenGL context, input handling, and a few other behind-the-scenes tasks. The actual drawing is all OpenGL, no Pygame surfaces are used. I made a couple of neat little modules that create display lists (I know, outdated now, but....) and create a usable OpenGL texture. The great thing is that I can update just a single module and my entire app will take advantage of new drawing routines (for instance, updating my surface creator to use something other than display lists). Here's a screenshot of the progress so far: http://68.12.192.171:8080/pics/sim/efis_8-01-11.jpg The airspeed is in an odd location because for the longest time, I did not have a "real" airspeed indicator. I now have an analog custom-built ASI that uses a servo....travel is limited to 180* for now, but I will be trying out a winch servo soon. If that doesn't pan out, I will probably go to air core motors driven with an Arduino. This shot is just my current arrangement to match my simulator. The annunciators actually fall behind a rectangular cutout in the panel. The engine gauges are temporary but are fully functional, waiting to finish my center/avionics/engine panel to add more engine stuff. Matt From dabigboy at cox.net Mon Aug 1 23:04:05 2011 From: dabigboy at cox.net (dabigboy at cox.net) Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 23:04:05 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] Leo's BU036 and encoders In-Reply-To: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC8A@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Message-ID: <20110802020405.TQCU5.403771.imail@fed1rmwml39> ---- Sean Galbraith wrote: > but I can fly it around now and work all my main controls > except > > flaps (will be on the avionics/center panel), plus run the main > electrical > > and ancillary systems and lights from real switches etc. > > My turn; Pics? :) Hehe, here ya go: http://68.12.192.171:8080/pics/sim/ Specifically, the ones starting with "sim" are the latest batch, there are a couple other things in that directory you might find interesting (like an early video of the turn coordinator). Please pardon the messy shop.......currently buying a house, I will soon have more room to better organize. :) Everything you see on the panel is fully functional, except: the airspeed indicator is limited to 180* until I figure out a winch servo or I just switch to air core motors; the little black knob left of the yoke is for panel lights dimming, and one of the metal toggle switches is for instrument lights on/off...neither of those work yet, because I haven't figured out a good lighting system. The real vernier parking brake knob even works, it's a HELP (yes that's the brand) carb/throttle cable from an automotive store, with the cable mostly removed and just the handle left, installed in a custom bracket that also houses a slide potentiometer. I've tied this to the left proportional brake in X-Plane, and my plugin slaves the right brake to it, so I get even, proportional braking from that knob. This is A Good Thing (tm) since I don't have brakes on my Thrustmaster pedals (I really like the old TM pedals, but they lack brakes). That meager little 20-something LCD will soon give way to a fancy projected setup I hope, but we will see. Once I get my new place, I will have the room to start testing different visual system ideas. I have an idea for a potentially great one from a passing comment made by another sim builder on X-Plane.org regarding his own setup, we shall see............ I'm having a blast. :) This is literally a dream come true for me, I have been intensely interested in building a sim ever since I found out about home cockpit building 10+ years ago when my dad got a job at FlightSafety and I was inspired to build. :) Now I finally have the equipment, knowledge, and skills to actually do something and make measurable progress. Buying a Lear nose section will be the next big step. Matt From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Aug 2 05:49:11 2011 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 05:49:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Leo's BU036 and encoders In-Reply-To: <20110801200851.AL21C.400360.imail@fed1rmwml39> References: <20110801200851.AL21C.400360.imail@fed1rmwml39> Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Aug 2011, dabigboy at cox.net wrote: > > ---- Roy Coates wrote: >> On 1 August 2011 14:27, Gene Buckle wrote: >>> >>> Sean, I thought the only difference between the normal and the "X" version >>> was the X version came with the screw terminal blocks.... >>> >> >> AFAIK, that is indeed the case. The screw terminals are actually 'push to >> release' types and seem pretty nice. >> >> Didn't get a chance to hook anything up today, rushed off my feet. > > The fancy version has more input pins, which is why I would purchase it. > I'm doing the diode thing right now but my project board has some weak > solder joints (if I'd known the local wholesale tool shop had new > soldering irons for $2.97 a piece I would have replaced my grotty one > ages ago....). I wonder if you could do the diode thing with the bigger > board and get MEGA inputs? :) > Don't buy a $3 soldering iron. You'll end up getting what you pay for. Go here: http://www.sparkfun.com/products/10553 Unless you get into pipe fitting or SMT work, this'll be the last iron you need to buy. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Aug 2 06:08:22 2011 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 06:08:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] OpenRJ In-Reply-To: <20110802014838.OFYSF.403710.imail@fed1rmwml39> References: <20110802014838.OFYSF.403710.imail@fed1rmwml39> Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Aug 2011, dabigboy at cox.net wrote: > > ---- Gene Buckle wrote: >> On Sun, 31 Jul 2011, dabigboy at cox.net wrote: >> >>> Interesting. FWIW, I'm working on a network-based OpenGL glass cockpit >>> display (well, adaptable to simulated steam gauges too, of course), >>> which is fairly far along now. It's also written in Python, >>> coincidentally, making it wonderfully cross-platform. Most of my >>> development work stopped/paused late last year because it's reached a >>> point where it takes care of most of my immediate needs, but soon I will >>> be moving ahead with engine instrumentation and more nav stuff. >> >> That sounds pretty slick. Are you using pygame for the graphics? I'd >> love to see screen shots. :) > > You know, after incrementally improving it over months and months, now > that I summarize everything, it DOES sound pretty darn cool. :) I'm > using PyOpenGL for most of the stuff, but Pygame is used for setting up > the OpenGL context, input handling, and a few other behind-the-scenes > tasks. The actual drawing is all OpenGL, no Pygame surfaces are used. I > made a couple of neat little modules that create display lists (I know, > outdated now, but....) and create a usable OpenGL texture. The great > thing is that I can update just a single module and my entire app will > take advantage of new drawing routines (for instance, updating my > surface creator to use something other than display lists). > You should check out rjglass - he's done a really slick EFIS & EICAS that is patterned after the CRJ-100. > Here's a screenshot of the progress so far: > > http://68.12.192.171:8080/pics/sim/efis_8-01-11.jpg > Slick! > The airspeed is in an odd location because for the longest time, I did > not have a "real" airspeed indicator. I now have an analog custom-built > ASI that uses a servo....travel is limited to 180* for now, but I will > be trying out a winch servo soon. If that doesn't pan out, I will > probably go to air core motors driven with an Arduino. This shot is just > my current arrangement to match my simulator. The annunciators actually > fall behind a rectangular cutout in the panel. The engine gauges are > temporary but are fully functional, waiting to finish my > center/avionics/engine panel to add more engine stuff. > You've done a great job on that Matt. It looks wonderful! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From brian at Sikkema.us Tue Aug 2 12:44:56 2011 From: brian at Sikkema.us (Brian Sikkema) Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 22:44:56 +0300 Subject: [simpits-tech] Leo's BU036 and encoders In-Reply-To: References: <20110801200851.AL21C.400360.imail@fed1rmwml39> Message-ID: <4E3853B8.4070904@Sikkema.us> > Don't buy a $3 soldering iron. You'll end up getting what you pay for. > > Go here: http://www.sparkfun.com/products/10553 > > Unless you get into pipe fitting or SMT work, this'll be the last iron you > need to buy. > > g. > Oh man, that looks nice... I've been needing a replacement for my shoddy Radio Shack model for years. Not sure I can get the wifey to bite off on a $100 iron, though.... Brian From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Aug 2 12:59:01 2011 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 12:59:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Leo's BU036 and encoders In-Reply-To: <4E3853B8.4070904@Sikkema.us> References: <20110801200851.AL21C.400360.imail@fed1rmwml39> <4E3853B8.4070904@Sikkema.us> Message-ID: On Tue, 2 Aug 2011, Brian Sikkema wrote: >> Don't buy a $3 soldering iron. You'll end up getting what you pay for. >> >> Go here: http://www.sparkfun.com/products/10553 >> >> Unless you get into pipe fitting or SMT work, this'll be the last iron you >> need to buy. >> >> g. >> > Oh man, that looks nice... I've been needing a replacement for my shoddy > Radio Shack model for years. Not sure I can get the wifey to bite off on > a $100 iron, though.... > You can buy it from here: http://www.all-spec.com/products/FX-888.html for $80.72. A friend of mine runs that website (he's using TL/Pick D3 - Multi-Value ROOOOLS, SQL DROOOOOLS!) *ahem* g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From brian at Sikkema.us Wed Aug 3 04:01:30 2011 From: brian at Sikkema.us (Brian Sikkema) Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 14:01:30 +0300 Subject: [simpits-tech] Leo's BU036 and encoders In-Reply-To: References: <20110801200851.AL21C.400360.imail@fed1rmwml39> <4E3853B8.4070904@Sikkema.us> Message-ID: <4E392A8A.801@Sikkema.us> > You can buy it from here: http://www.all-spec.com/products/FX-888.html for > $80.72. A friend of mine runs that website (he's using TL/Pick D3 - > Multi-Value ROOOOLS, SQL DROOOOOLS!) *ahem* > > g. > I know what I'll do! I'll pitch this to her first: http://www.all-spec.com/products/FX951-66.html After that $80 will be a relief!! lol She does this to me all the time with home improvement projects.... Brian From geneb at deltasoft.com Wed Aug 3 06:30:07 2011 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 06:30:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Leo's BU036 and encoders In-Reply-To: <4E392A8A.801@Sikkema.us> References: <20110801200851.AL21C.400360.imail@fed1rmwml39> <4E3853B8.4070904@Sikkema.us> <4E392A8A.801@Sikkema.us> Message-ID: On Wed, 3 Aug 2011, Brian Sikkema wrote: > >> You can buy it from here: http://www.all-spec.com/products/FX-888.html for >> $80.72. A friend of mine runs that website (he's using TL/Pick D3 - >> Multi-Value ROOOOLS, SQL DROOOOOLS!) *ahem* >> >> g. >> > I know what I'll do! I'll pitch this to her first: > http://www.all-spec.com/products/FX951-66.html > > After that $80 will be a relief!! lol > > She does this to me all the time with home improvement projects.... > There ya go! Brilliant idea. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From phoenixcomm at gmail.com Wed Aug 3 08:14:29 2011 From: phoenixcomm at gmail.com (Cris Harrison) Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 10:14:29 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Leo's BU036 and encoders In-Reply-To: <20110801200851.AL21C.400360.imail@fed1rmwml39> References: <20110801200851.AL21C.400360.imail@fed1rmwml39> Message-ID: <4E3965D5.7020405@gmail.com> On 8/1/2011 7:08 PM, dabigboy at cox.net wrote: > ---- Roy Coates wrote: >> On 1 August 2011 14:27, Gene Buckle wrote: >>> Sean, I thought the only difference between the normal and the "X" version >>> was the X version came with the screw terminal blocks.... >>> >> AFAIK, that is indeed the case. The screw terminals are actually 'push to >> release' types and seem pretty nice. >> >> Didn't get a chance to hook anything up today, rushed off my feet. > The fancy version has more input pins, which is why I would purchase it. I'm doing the diode thing right now but my project board has some weak solder joints (if I'd known the local wholesale tool shop had new soldering irons for $2.97 a piece I would have replaced my grotty one ages ago....). I wonder if you could do the diode thing with the bigger board and get MEGA inputs? :) > > Matt Yo Matt Stay away from cheep irons.... buy the most for your buck. that Hakko @ sparkfun is ok but you can do MUCH better for that kind of $$$$. I use a Metcal its a top line iron. a new system can cost a grand...... BUT look at EBAY tips are all sizes including smt stuff. an you can buy them under $10.00 + ship but what you need is the wand http://cgi.ebay.com/METCAL-MX-RM3E-ESD-SOLDER-PENCIL-CORD-PAD-USED-/250866835508?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a68d42034#ht_565wt_1139 power source (rf generator) http://cgi.ebay.com/Metcal-SP200-Power-Supply-SP-PW1-10-/180702944511?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a12bc1cff#ht_500wt_1251 This is LONG term investment I have had mine for about 6 years. with about dozen tips(elements with different heat ranges. enjoy Cris. www.phoenixcomm.net/~phnx2000/sim phoenixcomm.wordpress.com > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > From david at allen1.net Wed Aug 3 08:14:42 2011 From: david at allen1.net (David C. Allen) Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 09:14:42 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Leo's BU036 and encoders In-Reply-To: <4E392A8A.801@Sikkema.us> References: <20110801200851.AL21C.400360.imail@fed1rmwml39> <4E3853B8.4070904@Sikkema.us> <4E392A8A.801@Sikkema.us> Message-ID: <20110803151458.051F6238000C@ns2.simpits.org> At 02:01 PM 8/3/2011 +0300, you wrote: > > You can buy it from here: http://www.all-spec.com/products/FX-888.html for > > $80.72. A friend of mine runs that website (he's using TL/Pick D3 - > > Multi-Value ROOOOLS, SQL DROOOOOLS!) *ahem* > > > > g. > > >I know what I'll do! I'll pitch this to her first: >http://www.all-spec.com/products/FX951-66.html > >After that $80 will be a relief!! lol > >She does this to me all the time with home improvement projects.... > >Brian Brian I purchased for my wife a Edson Loner Soldering tool back in 1975 and it was over a $100 with all the assessories, and I still use it today! David www.737FlightSim.com From cyplesma at aol.com Wed Aug 3 09:15:26 2011 From: cyplesma at aol.com (cyplesma at aol.com) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 12:15:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Leo's BU036 and encoders In-Reply-To: <20110803151458.051F6238000C@ns2.simpits.org> References: <20110801200851.AL21C.400360.imail@fed1rmwml39><4E3853B8.4070904@Sikkema.us><4E392A8A.801@Sikkema.us> <20110803151458.051F6238000C@ns2.simpits.org> Message-ID: <8CE200FB08386AB-13C8-69BB@webmail-m079.sysops.aol.com> > > You can buy it from here: http://www.all-spec.com/products/FX-888.html for > > $80.72. A friend of mine runs that website (he's using TL/Pick D3 - > > Multi-Value ROOOOLS, SQL DROOOOOLS!) *ahem* > > > > g. > > >I know what I'll do! I'll pitch this to her first: >http://www.all-spec.com/products/FX951-66.html > >After that $80 will be a relief!! lol > >She does this to me all the time with home improvement projects.... > >Brian Brian I purchased for my wife a Edson Loner Soldering tool back in 1975 and it was over a $100 with all the assessories, and I still use it today! Now for you married youngsters here's a good rule of thumb. Whatever you buy yourself, expect to spend at least that much for something for your wife. So yes buy whichever one you want and then give her the same amount of money in cash and let her buy something fro herself. -----Original Message----- From: David C. Allen To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List Sent: Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:16 am Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Leo's BU036 and encoders At 02:01 PM 8/3/2011 +0300, you wrote: > > You can buy it from here: http://www.all-spec.com/products/FX-888.html for > > $80.72. A friend of mine runs that website (he's using TL/Pick D3 - > > Multi-Value ROOOOLS, SQL DROOOOOLS!) *ahem* > > > > g. > > >I know what I'll do! I'll pitch this to her first: >http://www.all-spec.com/products/FX951-66.html > >After that $80 will be a relief!! lol > >She does this to me all the time with home improvement projects.... > >Brian Brian I purchased for my wife a Edson Loner Soldering tool back in 1975 and it was over a $100 with all the assessories, and I still use it today! David www.737FlightSim.com _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20110803/8c7cd2c0/attachment.html From cyplesma at aol.com Wed Aug 3 09:16:16 2011 From: cyplesma at aol.com (cyplesma at aol.com) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 12:16:16 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Leo's BU036 and encoders In-Reply-To: <8CE200FB08386AB-13C8-69BB@webmail-m079.sysops.aol.com> References: <20110801200851.AL21C.400360.imail@fed1rmwml39><4E3853B8.4070904@Sikkema.us><4E392A8A.801@Sikkema.us><20110803151458.051F6238000C@ns2.simpits.org> <8CE200FB08386AB-13C8-69BB@webmail-m079.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CE200FCE5317F7-13C8-69E5@webmail-m079.sysops.aol.com> > > You can buy it from here: http://www.all-spec.com/products/FX-888.html for > > $80.72. A friend of mine runs that website (he's using TL/Pick D3 - > > Multi-Value ROOOOLS, SQL DROOOOOLS!) *ahem* > > > > g. > > >I know what I'll do! I'll pitch this to her first: >http://www.all-spec.com/products/FX951-66.html > >After that $80 will be a relief!! lol > >She does this to me all the time with home improvement projects.... > >Brian Brian I purchased for my wife a Edson Loner Soldering tool back in 1975 and it was over a $100 with all the assessories, and I still use it today! Now for you married youngsters here's a good rule of thumb. Whatever you buy yourself, expect to spend at least that much for something for your wife. So yes buy whichever one you want and then give her the same amount of money in cash and let her buy something fro herself. oh just don't let it be so obvious. -----Original Message----- From: cyplesma To: simpits-tech Sent: Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:15 pm Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Leo's BU036 and encoders > > You can buy it from here: http://www.all-spec.com/products/FX-888.html for > > $80.72. A friend of mine runs that website (he's using TL/Pick D3 - > > Multi-Value ROOOOLS, SQL DROOOOOLS!) *ahem* > > > > g. > > >I know what I'll do! I'll pitch this to her first: >http://www.all-spec.com/products/FX951-66.html > >After that $80 will be a relief!! lol > >She does this to me all the time with home improvement projects.... > >Brian Brian I purchased for my wife a Edson Loner Soldering tool back in 1975 and it was over a $100 with all the assessories, and I still use it today! Now for you married youngsters here's a good rule of thumb. Whatever you buy yourself, expect to spend at least that much for something for your wife. So yes buy whichever one you want and then give her the same amount of money in cash and let her buy something fro herself. -----Original Message----- From: David C. Allen To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List Sent: Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:16 am Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Leo's BU036 and encoders At 02:01 PM 8/3/2011 +0300, you wrote: > > You can buy it from here: http://www.all-spec.com/products/FX-888.html for > > $80.72. A friend of mine runs that website (he's using TL/Pick D3 - > > Multi-Value ROOOOLS, SQL DROOOOOLS!) *ahem* > > > > g. > > >I know what I'll do! I'll pitch this to her first: >http://www.all-spec.com/products/FX951-66.html > >After that $80 will be a relief!! lol > >She does this to me all the time with home improvement projects.... > >Brian Brian I purchased for my wife a Edson Loner Soldering tool back in 1975 and it was over a $100 with all the assessories, and I still use it today! 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URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20110803/9691dcbd/attachment-0001.html From dabigboy at cox.net Wed Aug 3 18:13:33 2011 From: dabigboy at cox.net (dabigboy at cox.net) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 18:13:33 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] Leo's BU036 and encoders In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110803211333.U7JNO.427840.imail@fed1rmwml39> ---- Gene Buckle wrote: > > > Don't buy a $3 soldering iron. You'll end up getting what you pay for. > > Go here: http://www.sparkfun.com/products/10553 > > Unless you get into pipe fitting or SMT work, this'll be the last iron you > need to buy. Yep, I know not to expect much from a $3 iron. :) It works OK for splicing wires together, but I tried repairing a motherboard the other night and it took a good 40mins to remove one cap and solder in the new one. :P It's just to get me by for a few more weeks (closing on a house at the moment...). Though frankly, I did not know exactly where to look for a GOOD iron. Thanks for the tip. Those Metcals Chris talked about sound interesting, but for what I do (wiring up lights & switches, splicing, mounting components to project boards, basic repair of motherboards and monitors) I wonder how much of an advantage they would really have over the Hakko? Matt From phoenixcomm at gmail.com Thu Aug 4 07:49:06 2011 From: phoenixcomm at gmail.com (Cris Harrison) Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 09:49:06 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Leo's BU036 and encoders In-Reply-To: <20110803211333.U7JNO.427840.imail@fed1rmwml39> References: <20110803211333.U7JNO.427840.imail@fed1rmwml39> Message-ID: <4E3AB162.6080601@gmail.com> On 8/3/2011 8:13 PM, dabigboy at cox.net wrote: > ---- Gene Buckle wrote: >> Don't buy a $3 soldering iron. You'll end up getting what you pay for. >> >> Go here: http://www.sparkfun.com/products/10553 >> >> Unless you get into pipe fitting or SMT work, this'll be the last iron you >> need to buy. > Yep, I know not to expect much from a $3 iron. :) It works OK for splicing wires together, but I tried repairing a motherboard the other night and it took a good 40mins to remove one cap and solder in the new one. :P It's just to get me by for a few more weeks (closing on a house at the moment...). Though frankly, I did not know exactly where to look for a GOOD iron. Thanks for the tip. > > Those Metcals Chris talked about sound interesting, but for what I do (wiring up lights& switches, splicing, mounting components to project boards, basic repair of motherboards and monitors) I wonder how much of an advantage they would really have over the Hakko? Matt with the Hakko you get what you get I dont think that you can change tips or heat ranges. Its like using a large soldering gun on a pcb. With the Metcal you have the heat range built in the tip. so you can use a fine point for a pcb, or for smt repair. And another heat range and tip for splices, etc. You will grow into the Metcal where the Hakko there is no growth. and If you get into unsoldering stuff guess what you buy the Unsoldering wand and tips. but then you need to provide a vacuum ( you can do that with shop air). Enjoy. Cris > Matt > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > From brian at Sikkema.us Thu Aug 4 10:17:45 2011 From: brian at Sikkema.us (Brian Sikkema) Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 20:17:45 +0300 Subject: [simpits-tech] Leo's BU036 and encoders In-Reply-To: <4E3AB162.6080601@gmail.com> References: <20110803211333.U7JNO.427840.imail@fed1rmwml39> <4E3AB162.6080601@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4E3AD439.9090809@Sikkema.us> > Matt with the Hakko you get what you get I dont think that you can > change tips or heat ranges. > Its like using a large soldering gun on a pcb. With the Metcal you have > the heat range built in the tip. > so you can use a fine point for a pcb, or for smt repair. And another > heat range and tip for splices, etc. You will grow into the Metcal where > the Hakko there is no growth. and If you get into unsoldering stuff > guess what you buy the Unsoldering wand and tips. but then you need to > provide a vacuum ( you can do that with shop air). Enjoy. > Cris Actually if you take a look at the page the Hakko Gene linked to has all of that.... "Temperature: 200 - 480?C or 392 - 896?F" "*Note:* Both the 900M series tips and the T18 series tips will work with the FX-888." I agree, it looks like it would be more than enough to do anything my modest tinkering would require. Brian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20110804/0b815e82/attachment.html From dabigboy at cox.net Thu Aug 4 17:55:58 2011 From: dabigboy at cox.net (dabigboy at cox.net) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 17:55:58 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] GPS/Loran units with simulator NMEA mode Message-ID: <20110804205558.MAI4O.1448943.imail@fed1rmwml4101> I'm trying to figure out what units I could consider for interfacing directly to sim software (specifically, X-Plane). I know XP can output NMEA coords directly, and there's a plugin that spits out a slightly different (newer?) system to run just about any GPS or Loran that accepts input in this manner, but finding details on which unit supports this is proving difficult. I'm led to believe that both the KLN-89/89b and the KLN-90 support NMEA input through their data port. It also appears that the KLN-88 Loran supports this, after I just found the specs on Lonestar's Commander 2000 GPS/Loran doc that specifically lists support for the KLN-88. If I understand correctly, the Commander 2000 outputs NMEA data to the GPS/Loran so that it "thinks" it's flying, which is exactly what X-Plane would be doing. The manuals for these units are actually not all that helpful, only mentioning the mode in passing. This situation is complicated by the fact that "sim mode" or "take-home mode" can also refer to simply being able to enter a special mode in the unit and dial in airspeed and heading, and then have the GPS follow this course internally, without any outside source of data. This is, of course, not what we want. Has anyone played with any of these units? I'm keeping an eye out on ebay for a KLN-88 (even a used KLN-89 will push $1,000, but the KLN-88 is a Loran and thus can be had for under $100 in many cases), but I don't want to spend much time/money chasing something that turns out to not even be possible with the '88. I know the Garmin GPS 196 and a couple other handheld units support NMEA input, but these are more expensive than a used '88, and don't look nearly correct as panel units in a biz jet simulator. Plus I prefer the '88 for its richer features and relative similarity in form and function to the King GPS units (which I am occasionally exposed to in real flying, but rarely have enough time to learn/play with). Thanks! Matt From geneb at deltasoft.com Sat Aug 6 11:00:02 2011 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 11:00:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Saitek TPM teardown pics Message-ID: http://www.geneb.org/tpm It's a pretty nice device and looks to be nicely hackable. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From dabigboy at cox.net Sat Aug 6 14:05:29 2011 From: dabigboy at cox.net (dabigboy at cox.net) Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 14:05:29 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] Saitek TPM teardown pics In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110806170529.ICDW1.1468881.imail@fed1rmwml34> ---- Gene Buckle wrote: > http://www.geneb.org/tpm > > It's a pretty nice device and looks to be nicely hackable. > > g. Wow, not bad. I have the lever-style quad and it too seems a cut above the typical consumer-level flight sim gear, though I have yet to tear it down. I'm seriously thinking of hacking one of Saitek's yokes to replace my homebrew hackery. Thanks for the pics! Matt From geneb at deltasoft.com Sat Aug 6 15:29:56 2011 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 15:29:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Saitek TPM teardown pics In-Reply-To: <20110806170529.ICDW1.1468881.imail@fed1rmwml34> References: <20110806170529.ICDW1.1468881.imail@fed1rmwml34> Message-ID: On Sat, 6 Aug 2011, dabigboy at cox.net wrote: > > ---- Gene Buckle wrote: >> http://www.geneb.org/tpm >> >> It's a pretty nice device and looks to be nicely hackable. >> >> g. > > Wow, not bad. I have the lever-style quad and it too seems a cut above > the typical consumer-level flight sim gear, though I have yet to tear it > down. I'm seriously thinking of hacking one of Saitek's yokes to replace > my homebrew hackery. > I thought about the lever quadrant, but I wanted the vernier style and Saitek just happens to be a ton cheaper than the likes of FlyElite and others. > Thanks for the pics! > You're quite welcome. If you tear your quadrant down, post pics! :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Aug 15 07:35:41 2011 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 07:35:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Progress! Message-ID: This Saturday I got the new projector mounts built & installed. The original mounts I'd purchased for the Epson 705HD projectors were good for what they were designed for, but were utter crap for what I was using them for. The new mounts don't vibrate, shake or move in any way - they're made from 12MM Baltic Birch. :) Wayne was able to get the warping & edge blending done. Sol7 is a great package. I just hope they'll allow us to use it past the end of the year. Here's a short video that Wayne took that shows the blending: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R2bcZ-3eX8 g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From geneb at deltasoft.com Wed Aug 17 13:07:35 2011 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 13:07:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Hunting for software... Message-ID: I think I've asked this before, but I've forgotten the answer if I have. :) I'm looking for an add-on package for FSX that will display standard instruments on a remote computer - and have the ability to hand-align each instrument in order to fit holes cut in a bezel. Commercial or freeware doesn't matter - what's out there? tnx! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From adm.design at verizon.net Wed Aug 17 13:24:52 2011 From: adm.design at verizon.net (Alan D. Mazurka) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 16:24:52 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] Hunting for software... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0LQ300KAPA1O6B42@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> hi, Gene. i use MaxiVista http://www.maxivista.com - it's really very clever. it's more general-purpose than just FS - so i can put _anything_ on a remote display. superb for Orbiter, too. you'll have to arrange your instruments as a regular panel in FS. i'm quite sure you already know how to do this. - adm - At 04:07 PM 8/17/2011, you wrote: >I think I've asked this before, but I've forgotten the answer if I have. >:) > >I'm looking for an add-on package for FSX that will display standard >instruments on a remote computer - and have the ability to hand-align each >instrument in order to fit holes cut in a bezel. > >Commercial or freeware doesn't matter - what's out there? > >tnx! > >g. > > >-- >Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 >http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. >http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project >Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. > >ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment >A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. >http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! > >Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical >minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which >holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd >by the clean end. >_______________________________________________ >Simpits-tech mailing list >Simpits-tech at simpits.org >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the >above page. Thanks! From geneb at deltasoft.com Wed Aug 17 14:13:41 2011 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 14:13:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Hunting for software... In-Reply-To: <0LQ300KAPA1O6B42@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> References: <0LQ300KAPA1O6B42@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 17 Aug 2011, Alan D. Mazurka wrote: > hi, Gene. > > i use MaxiVista http://www.maxivista.com - it's really very clever. > > it's more general-purpose than just FS - so i can put _anything_ on a > remote display. superb for Orbiter, too. > That's pretty slick. :) > you'll have to arrange your instruments as a regular panel in > FS. i'm quite sure you already know how to do this. > I need something that doesn't run on the FS machine - it's loaded enough with doing a 3840x800 visual display. :) I need a dedicated avionics system similar to Roy's X-Panel software... g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com Wed Aug 17 15:05:48 2011 From: Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com (Sean Galbraith) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:05:48 +1200 Subject: [simpits-tech] Hunting for software... In-Reply-To: References: <0LQ300KAPA1O6B42@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6ED89@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> What about http://www.flightdecksoft.com/software/freeware ? Has some nice gauges, at least for the basic 6, not so many of the engine stuff :) SeanG > -----Original Message----- > From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech- > bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Gene Buckle > Sent: Thursday, 18 August 2011 9:14 a.m. > To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Hunting for software... > > On Wed, 17 Aug 2011, Alan D. Mazurka wrote: > > > hi, Gene. > > > > i use MaxiVista http://www.maxivista.com - it's really very clever. > > > > it's more general-purpose than just FS - so i can put _anything_ on a > > remote display. superb for Orbiter, too. > > > That's pretty slick. :) > > > you'll have to arrange your instruments as a regular panel in > > FS. i'm quite sure you already know how to do this. > > > > I need something that doesn't run on the FS machine - it's loaded enough > with doing a 3840x800 visual display. :) I need a dedicated avionics > system similar to Roy's X-Panel software... > > g. > > > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project > Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. > > ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment > A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. > http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! > > Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical > minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which > holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd > by the clean end. > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! From Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com Wed Aug 17 15:54:33 2011 From: Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com (Sean Galbraith) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:54:33 +1200 Subject: [simpits-tech] Couple of questions... Message-ID: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6ED8D@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> I am looking for a couple of items... well sources really :-) I need a good supplier of 737 parts, a simpit friendly wrecker or similar... Second...I need to find a good substitute switch for 737NG MCP buttons.. I have been making buttons to fit onto push button switches for the sim community here, but it is getting too labor intensive when I am giving the things away! So I am looking for a replica or the real switch which I can just buy and wire up.. I don't even have the actual part number, so if anyone knows off the top of their head that would be great too... I want to build the autopilot for my generic bizjet sim and can't bee arsed making any more buttons :-) SeanG -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From geneb at deltasoft.com Wed Aug 17 18:53:30 2011 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 18:53:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Couple of questions... In-Reply-To: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6ED8D@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> References: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6ED8D@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Message-ID: On Thu, 18 Aug 2011, Sean Galbraith wrote: > Second...I need to find a good substitute switch for 737NG MCP buttons.. > I have been making buttons to fit onto push button switches for the sim > community here, but it is getting too labor intensive when I am giving > the things away! So I am looking for a replica or the real switch which > I can just buy and wire up.. I don't even have the actual part number, > so if anyone knows off the top of their head that would be great too... > I want to build the autopilot for my generic bizjet sim and can't bee > arsed making any more buttons :-) > Sean, got any pics of those MCP buttons? g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From david at allen1.net Wed Aug 17 19:10:11 2011 From: david at allen1.net (David C. Allen) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 20:10:11 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Couple of questions... In-Reply-To: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6ED8D@PS-CH1.pacsim.local > References: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6ED8D@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Message-ID: <20110818021025.87C3A538011E@ns2.simpits.org> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20110817/c9e9c209/attachment.html From Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com Wed Aug 17 19:15:48 2011 From: Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com (Sean Galbraith) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 14:15:48 +1200 Subject: [simpits-tech] Couple of questions... In-Reply-To: <20110818021025.87C3A538011E@ns2.simpits.org> References: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6ED8D@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> <20110818021025.87C3A538011E@ns2.simpits.org> Message-ID: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6ED93@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Hi David... you wouldn't happen to have the part number of those switches? If I can get the spec I can get my friendly electronics guy to source a similar, but not "aircraft" spec ;-) SeanG ________________________________ From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of David C. Allen Sent: Thursday, 18 August 2011 2:10 p.m. To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Couple of questions... At 10:54 AM 8/18/2011 +1200, you wrote: Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CC5D30.A0617D3E" I am looking for a couple of items... well sources really :-) I need a good supplier of 737 parts, a simpit friendly wrecker or similar... Second...I need to find a good substitute switch for 737NG MCP buttons.. I have been making buttons to fit onto push button switches for the sim community here, but it is getting too labor intensive when I am giving the things away! So I am looking for a replica or the real switch which I can just buy and wire up.. I have a full set of the OEM 737NG MCP switches, but I doubt the average simbuilder is going to step up to the plate and pay what the OEM wants per switch. David www.737FlightSim.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20110818/3cfd499f/attachment-0001.html From Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com Wed Aug 17 19:16:31 2011 From: Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com (Sean Galbraith) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 14:16:31 +1200 Subject: [simpits-tech] Couple of questions... In-Reply-To: References: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6ED8D@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Message-ID: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6ED94@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> > > > Sean, got any pics of those MCP buttons? What, the ones I made, or the ones I want to replicate? SeanG From geneb at deltasoft.com Wed Aug 17 21:12:55 2011 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 21:12:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Couple of questions... In-Reply-To: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6ED94@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> References: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6ED8D@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6ED94@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Message-ID: On Thu, 18 Aug 2011, Sean Galbraith wrote: >>> >> Sean, got any pics of those MCP buttons? > > What, the ones I made, or the ones I want to replicate? > Yes. :) BTW, I tried the free six pack gauge set and it's _really_ jerky. Any ideas? g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com Wed Aug 17 21:18:17 2011 From: Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com (Sean Galbraith) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 16:18:17 +1200 Subject: [simpits-tech] Couple of questions... In-Reply-To: References: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6ED8D@PS-CH1.pacsim.local><2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6ED94@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Message-ID: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6ED9C@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Hmmm, I tried it once before and I don't recall it being jerky.... been a while though... I'll have a look tonight SeanG > -----Original Message----- > From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech- > bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Gene Buckle > Sent: Thursday, 18 August 2011 4:13 p.m. > To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Couple of questions... > > On Thu, 18 Aug 2011, Sean Galbraith wrote: > > >>> > >> Sean, got any pics of those MCP buttons? > > > > What, the ones I made, or the ones I want to replicate? > > > Yes. :) > > BTW, I tried the free six pack gauge set and it's _really_ jerky. Any > ideas? > > g. > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project > Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. > > ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment > A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. > http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! > > Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical > minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which > holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd > by the clean end. > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! From Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com Fri Aug 19 03:57:11 2011 From: Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com (Sean Galbraith) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 22:57:11 +1200 Subject: [simpits-tech] Leo's BU036 and encoders In-Reply-To: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC86@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> References: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC64@PS-CH1.pacsim.local><2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC70@PS-CH1.pacsim.local><4E36AB73.4060009@bellsouth.net> <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC86@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Message-ID: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EDC4@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> My BU0836's arrived today... solder a concentric encoder on to it to try out, and hey presto! It works a charm... One concentric encoder now drives the radio tuning unit... outer ring selects the item, inner adjusts... blooming marvelous! SeanG From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Aug 19 05:44:01 2011 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 05:44:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Leo's BU036 and encoders In-Reply-To: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EDC4@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> References: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC64@PS-CH1.pacsim.local><2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC70@PS-CH1.pacsim.local><4E36AB73.4060009@bellsouth.net> <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC86@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EDC4@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Message-ID: On Fri, 19 Aug 2011, Sean Galbraith wrote: > My BU0836's arrived today... solder a concentric encoder on to it to try > out, and hey presto! It works a charm... One concentric encoder now > drives the radio tuning unit... outer ring selects the item, inner > adjusts... blooming marvelous! > The problem is finding the damn things for under $40 a pop. :( g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com Fri Aug 19 05:46:29 2011 From: Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com (Sean Galbraith) Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 00:46:29 +1200 Subject: [simpits-tech] Leo's BU036 and encoders In-Reply-To: References: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC64@PS-CH1.pacsim.local><2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC70@PS-CH1.pacsim.local><4E36AB73.4060009@bellsouth.net><2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC86@PS-CH1.pacsim.local><2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EDC4@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Message-ID: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EDC5@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Well this thing was in the junk box at work.. if I can find some kind of details on it I'll share... it looks like a "cheap" dual encoder.... SeanG > -----Original Message----- > From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech- > bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Gene Buckle > Sent: Saturday, 20 August 2011 12:44 a.m. > To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Leo's BU036 and encoders > > On Fri, 19 Aug 2011, Sean Galbraith wrote: > > > My BU0836's arrived today... solder a concentric encoder on to it to try > > out, and hey presto! It works a charm... One concentric encoder now > > drives the radio tuning unit... outer ring selects the item, inner > > adjusts... blooming marvelous! > > > The problem is finding the damn things for under $40 a pop. :( > > g. > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project > Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. > > ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment > A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. > http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! > > Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical > minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which > holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd > by the clean end. > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! From Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com Fri Aug 19 06:09:56 2011 From: Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com (Sean Galbraith) Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 01:09:56 +1200 Subject: [simpits-tech] Leo's BU036 and encoders In-Reply-To: References: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC64@PS-CH1.pacsim.local><2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC70@PS-CH1.pacsim.local><4E36AB73.4060009@bellsouth.net><2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC86@PS-CH1.pacsim.local><2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EDC4@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Message-ID: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EDC6@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Update,,, appears to be an ALPS EC11G.... which I am having trouble finding any sources for.... SeanG > -----Original Message----- > From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech- > bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Gene Buckle > Sent: Saturday, 20 August 2011 12:44 a.m. > To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Leo's BU036 and encoders > > On Fri, 19 Aug 2011, Sean Galbraith wrote: > > > My BU0836's arrived today... solder a concentric encoder on to it to try > > out, and hey presto! It works a charm... One concentric encoder now > > drives the radio tuning unit... outer ring selects the item, inner > > adjusts... blooming marvelous! > > > The problem is finding the damn things for under $40 a pop. :( > > g. > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project > Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. > > ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment > A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. > http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! > > Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical > minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which > holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd > by the clean end. > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Aug 19 06:30:02 2011 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 06:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Leo's BU036 and encoders In-Reply-To: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EDC6@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> References: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC64@PS-CH1.pacsim.local><2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC70@PS-CH1.pacsim.local><4E36AB73.4060009@bellsouth.net><2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC86@PS-CH1.pacsim.local><2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EDC4@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EDC6@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Message-ID: On Sat, 20 Aug 2011, Sean Galbraith wrote: > Update,,, appears to be an ALPS EC11G.... which I am having trouble > finding any sources for.... ALPS declared those end-of-life. :( g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Aug 19 06:37:48 2011 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 06:37:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Leo's BU036 and encoders In-Reply-To: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EDC6@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> References: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC64@PS-CH1.pacsim.local><2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC70@PS-CH1.pacsim.local><4E36AB73.4060009@bellsouth.net><2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC86@PS-CH1.pacsim.local><2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EDC4@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EDC6@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Message-ID: On Sat, 20 Aug 2011, Sean Galbraith wrote: > Update,,, appears to be an ALPS EC11G.... which I am having trouble > finding any sources for.... > http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/ALPS/EC11EBB24C03/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMsWp46O%252bq11WbJRzXHpSzpXEtpZRbRKg1s%3d The EC11E series is apparently the replacement line, but the 100 they ordered won't be shipped to Mouser until the 27th of Oct... g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com Fri Aug 19 16:24:17 2011 From: Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com (Sean Galbraith) Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 11:24:17 +1200 Subject: [simpits-tech] Leo's BU036 and encoders In-Reply-To: References: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC64@PS-CH1.pacsim.local><2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC70@PS-CH1.pacsim.local><4E36AB73.4060009@bellsouth.net><2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC86@PS-CH1.pacsim.local><2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EDC4@PS-CH1.pacsim.local><2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EDC6@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Message-ID: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EDC9@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Bugger. The E is way more expensive than the G was :( We must have bought these as cheap dual encoders years ago... and they must have been cheap, they look it. Work ok though. Sadly I am spoilt at work, we use grayhill $$$ ones, and have only failed 2 in the 6 years we have been using them. SeanG > -----Original Message----- > From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech- > bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Gene Buckle > Sent: Saturday, 20 August 2011 1:38 a.m. > To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Leo's BU036 and encoders > > On Sat, 20 Aug 2011, Sean Galbraith wrote: > > > Update,,, appears to be an ALPS EC11G.... which I am having trouble > > finding any sources for.... > > > http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/ALPS/EC11EBB24C03/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMsWp4 6O > %252bq11WbJRzXHpSzpXEtpZRbRKg1s%3d > > The EC11E series is apparently the replacement line, but the 100 they > ordered won't be shipped to Mouser until the 27th of Oct... > > g. > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project > Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. > > ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment > A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. > http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! > > Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical > minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which > holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd > by the clean end. > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Aug 19 18:00:08 2011 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 18:00:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Leo's BU036 and encoders In-Reply-To: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EDC9@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> References: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC64@PS-CH1.pacsim.local><2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC70@PS-CH1.pacsim.local><4E36AB73.4060009@bellsouth.net><2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC86@PS-CH1.pacsim.local><2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EDC4@PS-CH1.pacsim.local><2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EDC6@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EDC9@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Message-ID: On Sat, 20 Aug 2011, Sean Galbraith wrote: > Bugger. The E is way more expensive than the G was :( We must have > bought these as cheap dual encoders years ago... and they must have been > cheap, they look it. Work ok though. Sadly I am spoilt at work, we use > grayhill $$$ ones, and have only failed 2 in the 6 years we have been > using them. > Well fortunately radio stacks typically only take two dual encoders, so it won't be that bad, but still.. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com Sat Aug 20 00:52:12 2011 From: Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com (Sean Galbraith) Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 19:52:12 +1200 Subject: [simpits-tech] Leo's BU036 and encoders In-Reply-To: References: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC64@PS-CH1.pacsim.local><2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC70@PS-CH1.pacsim.local><4E36AB73.4060009@bellsouth.net><2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC86@PS-CH1.pacsim.local><2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EDC4@PS-CH1.pacsim.local><2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EDC6@PS-CH1.pacsim.local><2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EDC9@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Message-ID: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EDCE@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> > > Well fortunately radio stacks typically only take two dual encoders, so it > won't be that bad, but still.. Well even more fortunately *my* radio tuning unit uses just one dual encoder.. select, and adjust :) SeanG From geneb at deltasoft.com Sat Aug 20 07:54:53 2011 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 07:54:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Leo's BU036 and encoders In-Reply-To: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EDCE@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> References: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC64@PS-CH1.pacsim.local><2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC70@PS-CH1.pacsim.local><4E36AB73.4060009@bellsouth.net><2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EC86@PS-CH1.pacsim.local><2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EDC4@PS-CH1.pacsim.local><2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EDC6@PS-CH1.pacsim.local><2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EDC9@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EDCE@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Message-ID: On Sat, 20 Aug 2011, Sean Galbraith wrote: >> >> Well fortunately radio stacks typically only take two dual encoders, > so it >> won't be that bad, but still.. > > Well even more fortunately *my* radio tuning unit uses just one dual > encoder.. select, and adjust :) > So you're using the one encoder to cover NAV1/NAV2 and COM1/COM2? Got a pic of the panel? :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From dave_friend at tiscali.co.uk Sun Aug 21 09:39:44 2011 From: dave_friend at tiscali.co.uk (Dave Friend) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 17:39:44 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] Hunting for software... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5581F90EE6C14A7EB4E31DEA00D21E08@DavePC> Gene have you looked at http://cockpitsolutions.com/ Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Buckle" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 9:07 PM Subject: [simpits-tech] Hunting for software... > > I think I've asked this before, but I've forgotten the answer if I have. > :) > > I'm looking for an add-on package for FSX that will display standard > instruments on a remote computer - and have the ability to hand-align each > instrument in order to fit holes cut in a bezel. > > Commercial or freeware doesn't matter - what's out there? > > tnx! > > g. From geneb at deltasoft.com Sun Aug 21 13:07:45 2011 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 13:07:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Hunting for software... In-Reply-To: <5581F90EE6C14A7EB4E31DEA00D21E08@DavePC> References: <5581F90EE6C14A7EB4E31DEA00D21E08@DavePC> Message-ID: On Sun, 21 Aug 2011, Dave Friend wrote: > Gene have you looked at http://cockpitsolutions.com/ > Yes I have. They've got a great product line, but I'm already over budget on this little side project and another $300 for software would put a nail in me. :) tnx! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From geneb at deltasoft.com Sun Aug 21 15:48:39 2011 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 15:48:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Solution to the encoder "problem"... Message-ID: There's been an on-going thread on mycockpit.org about both the scarcity and crazy expense of a typical dual-concentric rotary encoder. I got to thinking about it and made the following suggestion - which I think folks here could use too. You could use a regular encoder with a pushbutton in it (like this one: http://www.sparkfun.com/products/9117) to handle both MHz and kHz fields - turn for MHz, push down & turn for kHz. A simple tweak in software would handle the job quite easily. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From raysot at comcast.net Sun Aug 21 16:56:58 2011 From: raysot at comcast.net (Ray) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 16:56:58 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] =?utf-8?q?Solution_to_the_encoder_=22problem=22=2E?= =?utf-8?b?Li4=?= Message-ID: <20110821235701.18BE91780001@ns2.simpits.org> Goflight went to that configuration after discontinuing their dual con control. It sucks.... I think a much better solution is to use the pushbutton to toggle between MHz & khz. Much easier that way Ray ----- Reply message ----- From: "Gene Buckle" To: Subject: [simpits-tech] Solution to the encoder "problem"... Date: Sun, Aug 21, 2011 3:48 pm There's been an on-going thread on mycockpit.org about both the scarcity and crazy expense of a typical dual-concentric rotary encoder. I got to thinking about it and made the following suggestion - which I think folks here could use too. You could use a regular encoder with a pushbutton in it (like this one: http://www.sparkfun.com/products/9117) to handle both MHz and kHz fields - turn for MHz, push down & turn for kHz. A simple tweak in software would handle the job quite easily. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20110821/4ccd9e6a/attachment-0001.html From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Sun Aug 21 17:17:43 2011 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 17:17:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] diode for 24v dc Message-ID: <1313972263.48397.YahooMailNeo@web111514.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Anyone have a tip on what diode I would need for a DC 24v light bulb project? I have two generator lights and a bus tie light, the bus tie should come on if either gen light illuminates. I want to run power from each gen light to the bus tie light so that if a gen light comes on the bus ties will also?illuminate. The diode is needed to keep the other gen light off unless the computer output activates the other gen light. www.SimAdventure.com? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20110821/ae7409dc/attachment.html From Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com Sun Aug 21 17:41:07 2011 From: Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com (Sean Galbraith) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 12:41:07 +1200 Subject: [simpits-tech] Solution to the encoder "problem"... In-Reply-To: <20110821235701.18BE91780001@ns2.simpits.org> References: <20110821235701.18BE91780001@ns2.simpits.org> Message-ID: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EDDC@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Or you could make something like this: http://www.ruscool.co.nz/dual_enc.html SeanG ________________________________ From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Ray Sent: Monday, 22 August 2011 11:57 a.m. To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List; simpits-tech at simpits.org Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Solution to the encoder "problem"... Goflight went to that configuration after discontinuing their dual con control. It sucks.... I think a much better solution is to use the pushbutton to toggle between MHz & khz. Much easier that way Ray ----- Reply message ----- From: "Gene Buckle" To: Subject: [simpits-tech] Solution to the encoder "problem"... Date: Sun, Aug 21, 2011 3:48 pm There's been an on-going thread on mycockpit.org about both the scarcity and crazy expense of a typical dual-concentric rotary encoder. I got to thinking about it and made the following suggestion - which I think folks here could use too. You could use a regular encoder with a pushbutton in it (like this one: http://www.sparkfun.com/products/9117) to handle both MHz and kHz fields - turn for MHz, push down & turn for kHz. A simple tweak in software would handle the job quite easily. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! 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URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20110822/47275ecd/attachment.html From bjones at pipecomp.com.au Mon Aug 22 02:20:04 2011 From: bjones at pipecomp.com.au (bjones at pipecomp.com.au) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 17:20:04 +0800 (WST) Subject: [simpits-tech] diode for 24v dc In-Reply-To: <1313972263.48397.YahooMailNeo@web111514.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1313972263.48397.YahooMailNeo@web111514.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <031401cc60ac$92747990$b75d6cb0$@com.au> How much juice(amps) do you need to push through the diode ?? From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Justin Messenger Sent: Monday, 22 August 2011 8:18 AM To: Simpits Tech Subject: [simpits-tech] diode for 24v dc Anyone have a tip on what diode I would need for a DC 24v light bulb project? I have two generator lights and a bus tie light, the bus tie should come on if either gen light illuminates. I want to run power from each gen light to the bus tie light so that if a gen light comes on the bus ties will also illuminate. The diode is needed to keep the other gen light off unless the computer output activates the other gen light. www.SimAdventure.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20110822/fa50fd29/attachment.html From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Mon Aug 22 10:20:09 2011 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 10:20:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] diode for 24v dc In-Reply-To: <4E51FE71.5050409@gmail.com> References: <1313972263.48397.YahooMailNeo@web111514.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4E51FE71.5050409@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1314033609.69727.YahooMailNeo@web111506.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Thank you Chris, that is exactly what I needed. ? Justin www.SimAdventure.com? From: Cris Harrison >To: Justin Messenger ; Simulator Cockpit Builder's List >Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 2:00 AM >Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] diode for 24v dc > > >On 8/21/2011 7:17 PM, Justin Messenger wrote: >Anyone have a tip on what diode I would need for a DC 24v light bulb project? I have two generator lights and a bus tie light, the bus tie should come on if either gen light illuminates. I want to run power from each gen light to the bus tie light so that if a gen light comes on the bus ties will also?illuminate. The diode is needed to keep the other gen light off unless the computer output activates the other gen light. >> >>www.SimAdventure.com? >> >> >>_______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks!Justin >Here goes but I dont have all the info, so this is what you need to do: This assumes (oh no) that the computer signals are positive on. the other end goes to ground.? If the other way around flip the diodes. >almost any signal diode will work (a 1N4001 has a DC Blocking Voltage or Vr of 50vdc, if you want more a 1N4002's Vr = 100vdc) >I have inclosed a small diagram, and the 1N4001 datasheet. > >Cris H. >phoenixcomm.wordpress.com >phoenixaerospace.us >flite-tronics.com > >I have included the datasheet for your amusement:) > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20110822/6b769981/attachment.html From phoenixcomm at gmail.com Mon Aug 22 15:12:30 2011 From: phoenixcomm at gmail.com (Cris Harrison) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 17:12:30 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] diode for 24v dc In-Reply-To: <1314033609.69727.YahooMailNeo@web111506.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1313972263.48397.YahooMailNeo@web111514.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4E51FE71.5050409@gmail.com> <1314033609.69727.YahooMailNeo@web111506.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4E52D44E.5040708@gmail.com> On 8/22/2011 12:20 PM, Justin Messenger wrote: > Thank you Chris, that is exactly what I needed. > Justin > www.SimAdventure.com > > *From:* Cris Harrison > *To:* Justin Messenger ; Simulator Cockpit > Builder's List > *Sent:* Monday, August 22, 2011 2:00 AM > *Subject:* Re: [simpits-tech] diode for 24v dc > > On 8/21/2011 7:17 PM, Justin Messenger wrote: >> Anyone have a tip on what diode I would need for a DC 24v light >> bulb project? I have two generator lights and a bus tie light, >> the bus tie should come on if either gen light illuminates. I >> want to run power from each gen light to the bus tie light so >> that if a gen light comes on the bus ties will also illuminate. >> The diode is needed to keep the other gen light off unless the >> computer output activates the other gen light. >> www.SimAdventure.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Simpits-tech mailing list >> Simpits-tech at simpits.org >> http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >> To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > Justin > Here goes but I dont have all the info, so this is what you need > to do: This assumes (oh no) that the computer signals are positive > on. the other end goes to ground. If the other way around flip > the diodes. > almost any signal diode will work (a 1N4001 has a DC Blocking > Voltage or Vr of 50vdc, if you want more a 1N4002's Vr = 100vdc) > I have inclosed a small diagram, and the 1N4001 datasheet. > > Cris H. > phoenixcomm.wordpress.com > phoenixaerospace.us > flite-tronics.com > > I have included the datasheet for your amusement:) > > > justin I did some more thinking (evil) bout your problem... a more realistic way would be the following: Right Gen/Field On/OFF (input to computer) Left " " tie switch On/OFF " 2 Contactors to route power from generator to bus. 1 Contactor to make tie bus. 2 green lights for generator power ok 2 red lights for generator Fail 1 green light for tie bus 1 red light for generator Fail most likely a meter to with a switch to switch between all your buss. ALL led should be cpu driven that why you can turn off tie bus. or make it fail also you need a battery Contactor and switch, if you have a ground power outlet you need a contactor for that also. and you gen switches should be 2 pos with center off. UP = Ground Power (you need both on (up) to have ground power on. Down = Generator ON. So if you want to charge your battery from your ground cart. here what you need: 1. Ground Cart plugged into the aircraft. 2. " " ON (this completes the ground circuit) 3. both Gen Switches in the UP or Ground Power (this with #2 pulls in the ground power contactor) 4. battery switch set to on. how this clears up the FOD. enjoy Cris H. phoenixcomm.wordpress.com phoenixaerospace.us flite-tronics.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. 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It should be obvious just due to its very presence! :D Congrats! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From dabigboy at cox.net Tue Aug 30 11:27:40 2011 From: dabigboy at cox.net (dabigboy at cox.net) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:27:40 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] Yay! My Quuenair is home In-Reply-To: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EEA6@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Message-ID: <20110830142740.P98CT.1742890.imail@fed1rmwml29> Awesome! Pics? Matt ---- Sean Galbraith wrote: > After sitting out in the cold, on my parents back lawn, for the last 5 > years, my Queenair has just made the trip down to Christchurch. It's > sitting in the workshop at work for a day or so, then it's off to > storage while I work out what I'm going to do with her... Now how > exactly do I convince SWMBO that another plane in the garage is a good > idea? > > > > SeanG > > > From Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com Tue Aug 30 17:08:41 2011 From: Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com (Sean Galbraith) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 12:08:41 +1200 Subject: [simpits-tech] Yay! My Quuenair is home In-Reply-To: <20110830142740.P98CT.1742890.imail@fed1rmwml29> References: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EEA6@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> <20110830142740.P98CT.1742890.imail@fed1rmwml29> Message-ID: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EEC0@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> > > Awesome! Pics? > > Matt Coming soon to an internet near you ;-) Sean From phoenixcomm at gmail.com Tue Aug 30 19:54:26 2011 From: phoenixcomm at gmail.com (Cris Harrison) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 21:54:26 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Yay! My Quuenair is home In-Reply-To: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EEA6@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> References: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EEA6@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Message-ID: <4E5DA262.40508@gmail.com> On 8/29/2011 7:17 PM, Sean Galbraith wrote: > > After sitting out in the cold, on my parents back lawn, for the last 5 > years, my Queenair has just made the trip down to Christchurch. It's > sitting in the workshop at work for a day or so, then it's off to > storage while I work out what I'm going to do with her... Now how > exactly do I convince SWMBO that another plane in the garage is a good > idea? > > SeanG > > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! Congrats!! pics, etc.... and BTW if your SWMBO looks at the posts, wouldnt have been better to use a gentler form like GLW? :) Cris H. Ft Worth Texas phoenixcomm.wordpress.com phoenixaerospace.us flite-tronics.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20110830/456fec65/attachment.html From Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com Tue Aug 30 20:15:11 2011 From: Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com (Sean Galbraith) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 15:15:11 +1200 Subject: [simpits-tech] Yay! My Quuenair is home In-Reply-To: <4E5DA262.40508@gmail.com> References: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EEA6@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> <4E5DA262.40508@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EEC5@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Congrats!! pics, etc.... and BTW if your SWMBO looks at the posts, wouldnt have been better to use a gentler form like GLW? :) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20110831/dcb7a0d3/attachment.html From Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com Tue Aug 30 20:17:21 2011 From: Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com (Sean Galbraith) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 15:17:21 +1200 Subject: [simpits-tech] Yay! My Queenair is home In-Reply-To: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EEC5@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> References: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EEA6@PS-CH1.pacsim.local><4E5DA262.40508@gmail.com> <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EEC5@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Message-ID: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD6EEC6@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> ________________________________ From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Sean Galbraith Sent: Wednesday, 31 August 2011 3:15 p.m. To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Yay! My Quuenair is home Congrats!! pics, etc.... and BTW if your SWMBO looks at the posts, wouldnt have been better to use a gentler form like GLW? :) That was meant to say "D'oh"....... :-) SeanG -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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