From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Nov 1 06:49:55 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 06:49:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] CAE sim time-lapse... In-Reply-To: <20101031205815.531D81780006@ns2.simpits.org> References: <20101031205815.531D81780006@ns2.simpits.org> Message-ID: On Sun, 31 Oct 2010, David C. Allen wrote: > At 12:53 PM 10/31/2010 -0700, you wrote: > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wqq4-XC5f8U&feature=related >> >> Very cool assembly video. The motion envelope test at the end is a mind >> blower! > > I liked the part where they unrolled the mirror and installed it > Yep. I only wish it was a close up. I still can't tell if there's a solid surface or an open space behind it. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Nov 1 06:53:59 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 06:53:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] CAE sim time-lapse... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, 31 Oct 2010, Roy Coates wrote: > On Sun, 31 Oct 2010, David C. Allen wrote: > >> At 12:53 PM 10/31/2010 -0700, you wrote: >> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wqq4-XC5f8U&feature=related >>> >>> Very cool assembly video. The motion envelope test at the end is a mind >>> blower! >> >> I liked the part where they unrolled the mirror and installed it > > > Yup. Mylar held in place by a vacuum iirc ? > > > Nice find Gene :) I can't lay claim to this one - someone posted it in the huge collimation thread we've got going over at mycockpit.org. It's a nice forum if you turn on adblock and ignore the fact that the guy that owns it is a huge prat. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Mon Nov 1 06:49:48 2010 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 13:49:48 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] CAE sim time-lapse... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Nov 2010, Gene Buckle wrote: > > I liked the part where they unrolled the mirror and installed it > > > Yep. I only wish it was a close up. I still can't tell if there's a > solid surface or an open space behind it. :) I saw a program on TV a few years back about CAE and the mylar(?) mirror surface was so cool to see. I'm pretty much certain that it's a solid backing. I might even have the program on DVD - I'll have a look tonight. -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Nov 1 07:06:07 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 07:06:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] CAE sim time-lapse... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Nov 2010, Roy Coates wrote: > On Mon, 1 Nov 2010, Gene Buckle wrote: > >>> I liked the part where they unrolled the mirror and installed it >>> >> Yep. I only wish it was a close up. I still can't tell if there's a >> solid surface or an open space behind it. :) > > > I saw a program on TV a few years back about CAE and the mylar(?) mirror > surface was so cool to see. I'm pretty much certain that it's a solid > backing. > > I might even have the program on DVD - I'll have a look tonight. > That would be neat if you could find that Roy. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Mon Nov 1 06:58:30 2010 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 13:58:30 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] CAE sim time-lapse... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Nov 2010, Gene Buckle wrote: > > I might even have the program on DVD - I'll have a look tonight. > > > That would be neat if you could find that Roy. I can remember thinking "Gosh - that's mighty clever" when I saw how they did it. However, I have less memory retention than a goldfish so.... However, I have less mem... you get the idea. I can but look! -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Nov 1 07:28:17 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 07:28:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] CAE sim time-lapse... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Nov 2010, Roy Coates wrote: > On Mon, 1 Nov 2010, Gene Buckle wrote: > >>> I might even have the program on DVD - I'll have a look tonight. >>> >> That would be neat if you could find that Roy. > > > I can remember thinking "Gosh - that's mighty clever" when I saw how they > did it. > > However, I have less memory retention than a goldfish so.... > Hehe. Thanks Roy! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From david at allen1.net Mon Nov 1 08:27:09 2010 From: david at allen1.net (David C. Allen) Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2010 09:27:09 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] CAE sim time-lapse... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20101101152722.6D69F1780008@ns2.simpits.org> At 01:58 PM 11/1/2010 +0000, you wrote: >On Mon, 1 Nov 2010, Gene Buckle wrote: > > > > I might even have the program on DVD - I'll have a look tonight. > > > > > That would be neat if you could find that Roy. > > >I can remember thinking "Gosh - that's mighty clever" when I saw how they >did it. > >However, I have less memory retention than a goldfish so.... > >However, I have less mem... you get the idea. > > >I can but look! Roy what are you looking for? David www.737FlightSim.com >-- > >Roy Coates. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >_______________________________________________ >Simpits-tech mailing list >Simpits-tech at simpits.org >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the >above page. Thanks! From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Mon Nov 1 07:57:49 2010 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 14:57:49 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] CAE sim time-lapse... In-Reply-To: <20101101152722.6D69F1780008@ns2.simpits.org> Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Nov 2010, David C. Allen wrote: > >However, I have less memory retention than a goldfish so.... > > > >However, I have less mem... you get the idea. > > > > > >I can but look! > > Roy what are you looking for? Me? I have no idea !! :-) -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com Tue Nov 2 14:26:47 2010 From: Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com (Sean Galbraith) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 10:26:47 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] F-16 update? Message-ID: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD0D557@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Looks like a G1000 grafted in, and turned on it's side http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-dewline/2010/11/photo-newer-bigger -display-for.html SeanG -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20101103/4e8cf4ab/attachment.html From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Tue Nov 2 13:35:19 2010 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 20:35:19 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] F-16 update? In-Reply-To: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD0D557@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Message-ID: On Wed, 3 Nov 2010, Sean Galbraith wrote: > Looks like a G1000 grafted in, and turned on it's side > > http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-dewline/2010/11/photo-newer-bigger > -display-for.html Ah, but is it Android or iOS ? :-) -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Nov 2 14:53:02 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 14:53:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] F-16 update? In-Reply-To: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD0D557@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> References: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD0D557@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Message-ID: On Wed, 3 Nov 2010, Sean Galbraith wrote: > Looks like a G1000 grafted in, and turned on it's side > > > > http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-dewline/2010/11/photo-newer-bigger > -display-for.html Just goes to show, even Viper geeks can be jealous of the Cessna crowd. :) Note the Cougar installation. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Tue Nov 2 13:54:11 2010 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 20:54:11 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] gene barred from simpits tech list. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Damn you fella - I'm up to my elbows in sodding DVD's trying to find that CAE video. I've narrowed it down to 2 disks... if I've got it, it's on one of those. -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com Tue Nov 2 16:26:35 2010 From: Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com (Sean Galbraith) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 12:26:35 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] F-16 update? In-Reply-To: References: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD0D557@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Message-ID: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD0D558@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> I think it's just an ipad, running XPanel ;-) SeanG ________________________________ From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Roy Coates Sent: Wednesday, 3 November 2010 9:35 a.m. To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] F-16 update? On Wed, 3 Nov 2010, Sean Galbraith wrote: > Looks like a G1000 grafted in, and turned on it's side > > http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-dewline/2010/11/photo-newer-bigger > -display-for.html Ah, but is it Android or iOS ? :-) -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------- _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! ________________________________ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1153 / Virus Database: 424/3233 - Release Date: 11/02/10 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20101103/36b93551/attachment.html From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Tue Nov 2 15:21:03 2010 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 22:21:03 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] F-16 update? In-Reply-To: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD0D558@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Message-ID: On Wed, 3 Nov 2010, Sean Galbraith wrote: > I think it's just an ipad, running XPanel ;-) > Oooh...have you been looking at my source code then? ;-) *hint* 737 *hint* -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com Tue Nov 2 17:00:37 2010 From: Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com (Sean Galbraith) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 13:00:37 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] F-16 update? In-Reply-To: References: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD0D558@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Message-ID: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD0D559@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Big zip file sitting on my desktop.... Must talk about sending that to you SeanG ________________________________ From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Roy Coates Sent: Wednesday, 3 November 2010 11:21 a.m. To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] F-16 update? On Wed, 3 Nov 2010, Sean Galbraith wrote: > I think it's just an ipad, running XPanel ;-) > Oooh...have you been looking at my source code then? ;-) *hint* 737 *hint* -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------- _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! ________________________________ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1153 / Virus Database: 424/3233 - Release Date: 11/02/10 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20101103/abb9e464/attachment-0001.html From crease-guard at sbcglobal.net Tue Nov 2 18:00:17 2010 From: crease-guard at sbcglobal.net (Joseph Fagner) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 20:00:17 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] F-16 update? In-Reply-To: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD0D559@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> References: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD0D558@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD0D559@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Message-ID: <003101cb7af2$7b50fa90$71f2efb0$@sbcglobal.net> We (Chris Link, Mike Williams and myself) are about to start shipping an exact replica of that display we started on 18 months ago. Already got software written for it to integrate with Falcon. Thing is bad ass. Jay Show me a man who cannot be bothered to do the little things, and I will show you a man who cannot be trusted to do the big ones. --Lawrence Bell, Founder Bell Helicopter From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Sean Galbraith Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 7:01 PM To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] F-16 update? Big zip file sitting on my desktop.. Must talk about sending that to you SeanG _____ From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Roy Coates Sent: Wednesday, 3 November 2010 11:21 a.m. To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] F-16 update? On Wed, 3 Nov 2010, Sean Galbraith wrote: > I think it's just an ipad, running XPanel ;-) > Oooh...have you been looking at my source code then? ;-) *hint* 737 *hint* -- Roy Coates. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1153 / Virus Database: 424/3233 - Release Date: 11/02/10 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20101102/ef8627d4/attachment.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Nov 2 18:31:54 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 18:31:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] gene barred from simpits tech list. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 2 Nov 2010, Roy Coates wrote: > > > Damn you fella - I'm up to my elbows in sodding DVD's trying to find that > CAE video. > *huge grin* > I've narrowed it down to 2 disks... if I've got it, it's on one of those. > \o/ :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Nov 2 18:41:32 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 18:41:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] F-16 update? In-Reply-To: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD0D558@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> References: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD0D557@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD0D558@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Message-ID: On Wed, 3 Nov 2010, Sean Galbraith wrote: > I think it's just an ipad, running XPanel ;-) > You never know. :) Roy is pretty sneaky like that. It suggests an interesting "update" to the F-15C - replace the HSI and ADI with a 16:9 LCD rotated to portrait and surrounded by a button collar.. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Wed Nov 3 00:55:12 2010 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 07:55:12 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] F-16 update? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 2 Nov 2010, Gene Buckle wrote: > On Wed, 3 Nov 2010, Sean Galbraith wrote: > > > I think it's just an ipad, running XPanel ;-) > > > You never know. :) Roy is pretty sneaky like that. > > It suggests an interesting "update" to the F-15C - replace the HSI and ADI > with a 16:9 LCD rotated to portrait and surrounded by a button collar.. I still think it's pretty poor. Sure, it has cruise control - but not a single cup-holder in sight! -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Wed Nov 3 06:28:39 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 06:28:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] F-16 update? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, 3 Nov 2010, Roy Coates wrote: > On Tue, 2 Nov 2010, Gene Buckle wrote: > >> On Wed, 3 Nov 2010, Sean Galbraith wrote: >> >>> I think it's just an ipad, running XPanel ;-) >>> >> You never know. :) Roy is pretty sneaky like that. >> >> It suggests an interesting "update" to the F-15C - replace the HSI and ADI >> with a 16:9 LCD rotated to portrait and surrounded by a button collar.. > > > I still think it's pretty poor. Sure, it has cruise control - but not a > single cup-holder in sight! Only transports (and tankers!) get the cup holders Roy. The fast jet guys get it misted in with their oxy feed. :D g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From brian at sikkema.us Wed Nov 3 07:07:33 2010 From: brian at sikkema.us (Brian Sikkema) Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 23:07:33 +0900 Subject: [simpits-tech] F-16 update? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4CD16CA5.1010805@sikkema.us> Yep. Cupholders, coffee pots, ovens, beds and toilets. ;) A morale cord and a laptop with some TV shows on it, and suddenly 12 hours of burning holes in the sky ain't so bad! lol Brian > Only transports (and tankers!) get the cup holders Roy. The fast jet guys > get it misted in with their oxy feed. :D > > g. From geneb at deltasoft.com Wed Nov 3 07:07:34 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 07:07:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] F-16 update? In-Reply-To: <4CD16CA5.1010805@sikkema.us> References: <4CD16CA5.1010805@sikkema.us> Message-ID: On Wed, 3 Nov 2010, Brian Sikkema wrote: > Yep. Cupholders, coffee pots, ovens, beds and toilets. ;) A morale cord > and a laptop with some TV shows on it, and suddenly 12 hours of burning > holes in the sky ain't so bad! lol > A KC-135 may do many things, but "burning holes in the sky" isn't one of them. Now maybe "dragging itself kicking and screaming through the sky" might work better. *laughs* g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Wed Nov 3 06:17:00 2010 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 13:17:00 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] F-16 update? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 3 Nov 2010, Gene Buckle wrote: > > I still think it's pretty poor. Sure, it has cruise control - but not a > > single cup-holder in sight! > > Only transports (and tankers!) get the cup holders Roy. The fast jet guys > get it misted in with their oxy feed. :D LOL! -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Wed Nov 3 06:18:17 2010 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 13:18:17 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] F-16 update? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 3 Nov 2010, Gene Buckle wrote: > A KC-135 may do many things, but "burning holes in the sky" isn't one of > them. Now maybe "dragging itself kicking and screaming through the sky" > might work better. *laughs* iirc there's a very cool vid on YouTube of a KC doing a _very_ low level pass. Not too shabby that ! -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From brian at sikkema.us Wed Nov 3 07:39:11 2010 From: brian at sikkema.us (Brian Sikkema) Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 23:39:11 +0900 Subject: [simpits-tech] Tanker TTC records: In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4CD1740F.90102@sikkema.us> http://records.fai.org/general_aviation/current.asp?id1=134&id2=4 Note the climb to 15,000 Meters (just over 49,000 feet), 8 minutes 15 seconds. That's a SUSTAINED rate of climb of 6,000FPM to almost 50,000 feet! Record set in 1988, still current. :P Interesting side note, last time I deployed that tail, 3554, was out there. It's the only Active Duty tanker I'm aware of that still has nose art (the Cherokee Rose). Also while I was there, it got struck by lightning, blew off a couple panels near the HF antenna on the tail! lol. I was up while it happened, heard the chatter on the radio. Got some pics of the damage around here somewhere.... They ended up pulling the HF probe antenna off and flying it back to the states like that for repairs. Looked really weird without that big probe on the tail. Brian From geneb at deltasoft.com Wed Nov 3 07:34:15 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 07:34:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] F-16 update? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, 3 Nov 2010, Roy Coates wrote: > On Wed, 3 Nov 2010, Gene Buckle wrote: > >> A KC-135 may do many things, but "burning holes in the sky" isn't one of >> them. Now maybe "dragging itself kicking and screaming through the sky" >> might work better. *laughs* > > iirc there's a very cool vid on YouTube of a KC doing a _very_ low level > pass. Not too shabby that ! Unloaded I bet. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Wed Nov 3 06:36:45 2010 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 13:36:45 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] F-16 update? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 3 Nov 2010, Gene Buckle wrote: > > iirc there's a very cool vid on YouTube of a KC doing a _very_ low level > > pass. Not too shabby that ! > > Unloaded I bet. :) Gee... ya think !? :) For anyone interested, here is the vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZT4BdI7STE -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Wed Nov 3 06:45:32 2010 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 13:45:32 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] F-16 update? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Tell what I'd _love_ to see is Fat Albert's JATO takeoff :) Can you fit those suckers to a 135 Brian? -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Wed Nov 3 08:13:37 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 08:13:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] F-16 update? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, 3 Nov 2010, Roy Coates wrote: > > Tell what I'd _love_ to see is Fat Albert's JATO takeoff :) > > Can you fit those suckers to a 135 Brian? > Do you _really_ want to see what happens when you put rockets on a 45 year old airframe? BTW, for the retro geeks in the audience: http://sensi.org/~svo/glasstty/ It looks great in PuTTY with a 15pt size setting. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From echotech1452 at gmail.com Wed Nov 3 08:43:50 2010 From: echotech1452 at gmail.com (delor lauchang) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 08:43:50 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] F-16 update? In-Reply-To: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD0D557@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> References: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD0D557@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Message-ID: Sweet, my 17"LCD widescreen console is now standard. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Sean Galbraith < Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com> wrote: > Looks like a G1000 grafted in, and turned on it?s side > > > > > http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-dewline/2010/11/photo-newer-bigger-display-for.html > > > > SeanG > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20101103/4bb156f9/attachment.html From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Wed Nov 3 07:39:44 2010 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 14:39:44 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] F-16 update? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 3 Nov 2010, delor lauchang wrote: > Sweet, my 17"LCD widescreen console is now standard. > I can't see a fire-wire port anywhere... -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Wed Nov 3 07:42:40 2010 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 14:42:40 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] F-16 update? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 3 Nov 2010, Gene Buckle wrote: > BTW, for the retro geeks in the audience: > > http://sensi.org/~svo/glasstty/ > > It looks great in PuTTY with a 15pt size setting. Very sad. Yeah, retro is cool to look at - but for working, give me a smoothed anti-aliased super-slick font any day of the week ! Oh - and colour syntax highlighting too please! -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Wed Nov 3 09:23:34 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 09:23:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] F-16 update? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, 3 Nov 2010, Roy Coates wrote: > On Wed, 3 Nov 2010, Gene Buckle wrote: > >> BTW, for the retro geeks in the audience: >> >> http://sensi.org/~svo/glasstty/ >> >> It looks great in PuTTY with a 15pt size setting. > > Very sad. Yeah, retro is cool to look at - but for working, give me a > smoothed anti-aliased super-slick font any day of the week ! > I use a font called "Crisp" in VS2010. ProggySquareBP is a nice font as well. This is a nice font resource for programming environments: http://www.proggyfonts.com/index.php?menu=download > Oh - and colour syntax highlighting too please! Yep. FYI, vim does that. *laughs* g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Wed Nov 3 08:30:44 2010 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 15:30:44 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] F-16 update? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 3 Nov 2010, Gene Buckle wrote: > > Oh - and colour syntax highlighting too please! > > Yep. FYI, vim does that. *laughs* Under Linux, I'm still using the JOE editor. It supports all those wonderful old keyboard-sequences from WordStar that I _still_ remember! -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Wed Nov 3 10:03:11 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 10:03:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] F-16 update? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, 3 Nov 2010, Roy Coates wrote: > On Wed, 3 Nov 2010, Gene Buckle wrote: > >>> Oh - and colour syntax highlighting too please! >> >> Yep. FYI, vim does that. *laughs* > > Under Linux, I'm still using the JOE editor. It supports all those > wonderful old keyboard-sequences from WordStar that I _still_ remember! WordStar is _forever_! :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com Wed Nov 3 18:38:39 2010 From: Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com (Sean Galbraith) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 14:38:39 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] Colour Matching Message-ID: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD0D55E@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Found this cool site; http://www.perbang.dk/rgb/4F5338/ You can enter Fed Std paint codes, and it'll give you matches in different formats... even had matches to standard colours from my local Paint Shop here in NZ.. I'm off to buy some 98% correct FS 34098 now :-) SeanG -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20101104/63fcc4c0/attachment.html From brian at sikkema.us Thu Nov 4 01:00:50 2010 From: brian at sikkema.us (brian at sikkema.us) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 03:00:50 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] F-16 update? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <07f63f73e47fb1c538de20aabca0497b.squirrel@www.sikkema.us> > > Tell what I'd _love_ to see is Fat Albert's JATO takeoff :) > > Can you fit those suckers to a 135 Brian? > Depends on if the store has enough duct tape in stock or not.... *checks* Yes. Yes I can. :D From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Thu Nov 4 00:04:05 2010 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 07:04:05 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] F-16 update? In-Reply-To: <07f63f73e47fb1c538de20aabca0497b.squirrel@www.sikkema.us> Message-ID: On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 brian at sikkema.us wrote: > > > > Tell what I'd _love_ to see is Fat Albert's JATO takeoff :) > > > > Can you fit those suckers to a 135 Brian? > > > > Depends on if the store has enough duct tape in stock or not.... *checks* > > Yes. Yes I can. Ah, the wonders of duct tape!! Just remember to fit the same number of rockets to the port side that you fit to the starboard side... -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From brian at sikkema.us Thu Nov 4 01:19:48 2010 From: brian at sikkema.us (brian at sikkema.us) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 03:19:48 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] F-16 update? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <91383b0df50bb0b5c8cc639ce5083bbf.squirrel@www.sikkema.us> > > Ah, the wonders of duct tape!! > > Just remember to fit the same number of rockets to the port side that you > fit to the starboard side... Nah, that's ok, I'll let the Navy guys stick theirs on the port and starboard sides, I'm gonna stick mine on the left and right. ;) Brian From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Thu Nov 4 00:19:11 2010 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 07:19:11 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] F-16 update? In-Reply-To: <91383b0df50bb0b5c8cc639ce5083bbf.squirrel@www.sikkema.us> Message-ID: On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 brian at sikkema.us wrote: > > Just remember to fit the same number of rockets to the port side that you > > fit to the starboard side... > > Nah, that's ok, I'll let the Navy guys stick theirs on the port and > starboard sides, I'm gonna stick mine on the left and right. ;) Tsk! Bad Brian! There's a very big difference between left and right and port and starboard! -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Nov 4 19:06:03 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 19:06:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] All FAA charts now available for free download (fwd) Message-ID: ------------------------------------------------------------------- ??? FAA Safety Team | Safer Skies Through Education Free Downloadable Aeronautical Charts and Products Notice Number: NOTC2469 The following FAA downloadable aeronautical products are available to the public free of charge on our public website . ? ? * ? ? ? VFR Sectional Raster Charts ? ? * ? ? ? VFR Terminal Area Raster Charts ? ? * ? ? ? 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URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20101108/8f6b683c/attachment.html From rd at ns.sympatico.ca Sun Nov 14 14:18:49 2010 From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 18:18:49 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Has anyone tried this? Multiple PC's, Google Earth, Realistic Scenery? hmmmm http://flightprosim.com/ From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Sun Nov 14 13:48:12 2010 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 21:48:12 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] (no subject) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 14 Nov 2010, Rick Davis wrote: > Has anyone tried this? Multiple PC's, Google Earth, Realistic Scenery? > > hmmmm > > http://flightprosim.com/ Isn't that the flightgear rip-off ? -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From rd at ns.sympatico.ca Sun Nov 14 14:57:48 2010 From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 18:57:48 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <55132A1A8A6943F8B05B73A4A97F0250@RickPC> It does say somewhere in there about being an "extension" of Flightgear or something. I found the ad on my face book page. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Coates" To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 5:48 PM Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] (no subject) > On Sun, 14 Nov 2010, Rick Davis wrote: > >> Has anyone tried this? Multiple PC's, Google Earth, Realistic Scenery? >> >> hmmmm >> >> http://flightprosim.com/ > > > Isn't that the flightgear rip-off ? > > > -- > > Roy Coates. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs > meter. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Sun Nov 14 13:56:34 2010 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 21:56:34 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <55132A1A8A6943F8B05B73A4A97F0250@RickPC> Message-ID: On Sun, 14 Nov 2010, Rick Davis wrote: > It does say somewhere in there about being an "extension" of Flightgear or > something. > > I found the ad on my face book page. Yeah, they spam a lot from time to time. They also offer this lot via Ebay. I wouldn't give them a penny. Although it is apparently legal, it is bloody unfair to people like Curt who have worked so hard to create it and who willingly give it away to folks like us. -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From rd at ns.sympatico.ca Sun Nov 14 15:20:10 2010 From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 19:20:10 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <309BA978CB7B4EBBA0DF28EB47620D97@RickPC> > Yeah, they spam a lot from time to time. > > They also offer this lot via Ebay. > > I wouldn't give them a penny. Although it is apparently legal, it is > bloody unfair to people like Curt who have worked so hard to create it and > who willingly give it away to folks like us. > > -- > > Roy Coates. > Google ads is like a cesspool ain't it? There was one awhile back about some gal who had discovered the secret to white teeth. The picture, and the name, was of a gal I know who lives only a few blocks from here. They quoted statements from several Dentists in the Town (who do not exist), and had her pegged as a single Mom with three kids. In actuality, she is a 29 year old Teacher, with no kids. Thanks Roy. I will Boycott them. When I start seeing my own sorry face up there promoting erectile dysfunction or something, I'll know it's time to pitch the computers. :) R From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Sun Nov 14 14:17:25 2010 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 22:17:25 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <309BA978CB7B4EBBA0DF28EB47620D97@RickPC> Message-ID: On Sun, 14 Nov 2010, Rick Davis wrote: > Google ads is like a cesspool ain't it? There was one awhile back about some > gal who had discovered the secret to white teeth. The picture, and the name, > was of a gal I know who lives only a few blocks from here. They quoted > statements from several Dentists in the Town (who do not exist), and had her > pegged as a single Mom with three kids. In actuality, she is a 29 year old > Teacher, with no kids. Google are rapidly becoming the dark side of the net. "Do No Evil" is their motto, and yet they are exploiting every loophole they can to avoid taxation - like they're short of a few quid - and are getting pretty heavy-handed with anyone who stands in their way. Worrying. How many years before Google buy Microsoft ? > When I start seeing my own sorry face up there promoting erectile > dysfunction or something, I'll know it's time to pitch the computers. Hey, at least that'd be a believable ad! ;-) gd&r !! (c)1998, Gene Buckle. -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From rd at ns.sympatico.ca Sun Nov 14 15:39:29 2010 From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 19:39:29 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <50E2F62F235241F0B10BE62CBAE644C9@RickPC> > How many years before Google buy Microsoft ? 3 They will do it as a consortium with Ustream. R From raysot at comcast.net Sun Nov 14 19:38:46 2010 From: raysot at comcast.net (Ray Sotkiewicz) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 19:38:46 -0800 Subject: [simpits-tech] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <309BA978CB7B4EBBA0DF28EB47620D97@RickPC> References: <309BA978CB7B4EBBA0DF28EB47620D97@RickPC> Message-ID: <4CE0AB46.4020502@comcast.net> I agree with you on Google. My sister-in-law is a filmmaker and she's essentially lost the bank due to Google Ads referring people to pirate sites for her films. Google no longer cares where the money comes from anymore.. just so long as it comes. On 11/14/2010 3:20 PM, Rick Davis wrote: >> Yeah, they spam a lot from time to time. >> >> They also offer this lot via Ebay. >> >> I wouldn't give them a penny. Although it is apparently legal, it is >> bloody unfair to people like Curt who have worked so hard to create it and >> who willingly give it away to folks like us. >> >> -- >> >> Roy Coates. >> > Google ads is like a cesspool ain't it? There was one awhile back about some > gal who had discovered the secret to white teeth. The picture, and the name, > was of a gal I know who lives only a few blocks from here. They quoted > statements from several Dentists in the Town (who do not exist), and had her > pegged as a single Mom with three kids. In actuality, she is a 29 year old > Teacher, with no kids. > > Thanks Roy. I will Boycott them. > > When I start seeing my own sorry face up there promoting erectile > dysfunction or something, I'll know it's time to pitch the computers. > > :) > > R > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > From idekkers at gmail.com Mon Nov 15 01:16:33 2010 From: idekkers at gmail.com (Ido Dekkers) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 11:16:33 +0200 Subject: [simpits-tech] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <4CE0AB46.4020502@comcast.net> References: <309BA978CB7B4EBBA0DF28EB47620D97@RickPC> <4CE0AB46.4020502@comcast.net> Message-ID: regardless of all the google stuff, x-plane is a lot better and since V10 is on the way you can get 9 for 30$ which is less then what they take -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20101115/b85f4598/attachment.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Nov 15 05:51:12 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 05:51:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, 14 Nov 2010, Rick Davis wrote: > Has anyone tried this? Multiple PC's, Google Earth, Realistic Scenery? > > hmmmm > > http://flightprosim.com/ flightprosim is a *SCAM*. What this jerk is doing is taking a build of FlightGear and selling it. He's not adding any value at all or adding any new functionality to FlightGear. He's preying on people that don't know they can get the same thing for free by just downloading it. For those that don't know, FlightGear is an open source flight simulator project that's been around since 1996. It's a fantastic project that has made some huge leaps in recent years. It was featured at FSWeekend 2010 a few weeks ago - running *10* displays from a single computer. If memory serves, it was 8 out the cockpit views and 2 instrument panel views. They also showed off native support for 3D glasses. (Anamorphic Stereo is what I _think_ they called it) You can get more info here: http://www.flightgear.org Here's the October 2010 newsletter: http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php/FlightGear_Newsletter_October_2010 Here's the FlightGear wiki article on FPS: http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php/FlightProSim If you'd like to participate in the FlightGear project, please do! Everyone is welcome! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From rd at ns.sympatico.ca Mon Nov 15 14:04:48 2010 From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 18:04:48 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <22C6914B7A0A4659A9DB7501FE704289@RickPC> > > flightprosim is a *SCAM*. > > What this jerk is doing is taking a build of FlightGear and selling it. > He's not adding any value at all or adding any new functionality to > FlightGear. He's preying on people that don't know they can get the same > thing for free by just downloading it. > > g. That's unfortunate. Somewhat the opposite of having someone steal your proprietary rights, and then giving them away. There are millions of ways, to make millions of dollars on the World Wide Web, providing you have one skill ... no couth. R From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Nov 15 13:06:46 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 13:06:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <22C6914B7A0A4659A9DB7501FE704289@RickPC> References: <22C6914B7A0A4659A9DB7501FE704289@RickPC> Message-ID: On Mon, 15 Nov 2010, Rick Davis wrote: > >> >> flightprosim is a *SCAM*. >> >> What this jerk is doing is taking a build of FlightGear and selling it. >> He's not adding any value at all or adding any new functionality to >> FlightGear. He's preying on people that don't know they can get the same >> thing for free by just downloading it. >> >> g. > > That's unfortunate. Somewhat the opposite of having someone steal your > proprietary rights, and then giving them away. > > There are millions of ways, to make millions of dollars on the World Wide > Web, providing you have one skill ... no couth. > Yep. Search eBay some time for "flight simulator". You'll see dozens of people selling it. I'd have zero problem with it if they were up front about what it really is and where it came from. Providing FlightGear on DVD is a good thing, but not at $40+. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Mon Nov 15 14:20:47 2010 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 22:20:47 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <22C6914B7A0A4659A9DB7501FE704289@RickPC> Message-ID: On Mon, 15 Nov 2010, Rick Davis wrote: > There are millions of ways, to make millions of dollars on the World Wide > Web, providing you have one skill ... no couth. Yeah, you got that right. -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From echotech1452 at gmail.com Tue Nov 16 07:00:09 2010 From: echotech1452 at gmail.com (delor lauchang) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 07:00:09 -0800 Subject: [simpits-tech] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <22C6914B7A0A4659A9DB7501FE704289@RickPC> References: <22C6914B7A0A4659A9DB7501FE704289@RickPC> Message-ID: Thanks Rick for the heads up!!! That's what i thought so when I looked at the screenshots. On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Rick Davis wrote: > > > > > flightprosim is a *SCAM*. > > > > What this jerk is doing is taking a build of FlightGear and selling it. > > He's not adding any value at all or adding any new functionality to > > FlightGear. He's preying on people that don't know they can get the same > > thing for free by just downloading it. > > > > g. > > That's unfortunate. Somewhat the opposite of having someone steal your > proprietary rights, and then giving them away. > > There are millions of ways, to make millions of dollars on the World Wide > Web, providing you have one skill ... no couth. > > R > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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More features such as sending keystrokes and additional dataref types will be added. Contributions are welcome. Source code (GNU GPL) and documentation (README) can be found at: https://github.com/vranki/ExtPlane Linux x86_32 binary built on Ubuntu Maverick: http://www.modeemi.fi/~cosmo/extplane.xpl -- Ville Ranki http://www.iki.fi/~cos [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/x-plane-dev/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/x-plane-dev/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: x-plane-dev-digest at yahoogroups.com x-plane-dev-fullfeatured at yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: x-plane-dev-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From geneb at deltasoft.com Sun Nov 21 06:05:11 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 06:05:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Collimated display...DONE! Message-ID: Well folks, it IS possible for a few geeks in a garage to build a fully collimated cross-cockpit display system. Here's video and some pics: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yaDnXYlf8k http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ1wNFgpVJk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywEtU7VnzPc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lZLTY021VQ http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll/collimated_display.html I can't wait until we get the 180 degree version built! :D g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From crease-guard at sbcglobal.net Sun Nov 21 08:42:34 2010 From: crease-guard at sbcglobal.net (Joseph Fagner) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 08:42:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Collimated display...DONE! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <98175.95345.qm@web81607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> You started to mention somthing about distortion at the end of the first video but it was cut off.? What were you saying?? You can see the image distorted at the bottom. So explain where the projector is?? Is it behind you shooting through that louvered box?? It looks like there is just white cloth over that box. Jay ________________________________ From: Gene Buckle To: simpits-tech at simpits.org Cc: x-plane-tech at groups.yahoo.com Sent: Sun, November 21, 2010 8:05:11 AM Subject: [simpits-tech] Collimated display...DONE! Well folks, it IS possible for a few geeks in a garage to build a fully collimated cross-cockpit display system. Here's video and some pics: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yaDnXYlf8k http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ1wNFgpVJk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywEtU7VnzPc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lZLTY021VQ http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll/collimated_display.html I can't wait until we get the 180 degree version built! :D g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page.? Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20101121/2b5c10c3/attachment.html From david at allen1.net Sun Nov 21 08:53:46 2010 From: david at allen1.net (David C. Allen) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 09:53:46 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] Collimated display...DONE! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20101121165356.A0193328014@ns2.simpits.org> Gene and Wayne WOW, beyond words! David www.737FlightSim.com At 06:05 AM 11/21/2010 -0800, you wrote: >Well folks, it IS possible for a few geeks in a garage to build a fully >collimated cross-cockpit display system. > >Here's video and some pics: > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yaDnXYlf8k >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ1wNFgpVJk >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywEtU7VnzPc >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lZLTY021VQ > >http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll/collimated_display.html > >I can't wait until we get the 180 degree version built! :D > >g. > >-- >Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 >http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. >http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project > >ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment >A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. >http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! > >Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical >minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which >holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd >by the clean end. >_______________________________________________ >Simpits-tech mailing list >Simpits-tech at simpits.org >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the >above page. Thanks! From geneb at deltasoft.com Sun Nov 21 07:43:58 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 07:43:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Collimated display...DONE! In-Reply-To: <98175.95345.qm@web81607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <98175.95345.qm@web81607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 21 Nov 2010, Joseph Fagner wrote: > You started to mention somthing about distortion at the end of the first video > but it was cut off.? What were you saying?? You can see the image distorted at > the bottom. > > So explain where the projector is?? Is it behind you shooting through that > louvered box?? It looks like there is just white cloth over that box. > The battery in the video camera died right then. :) The image distortion is actually expected and is acceptable. With cockpit structure in place, it would mask that distortion band along the bottom. The screen is actually covered in kraft paper - it's all we had on hand at the time. It's badly wrinkled in places. :) Note that collimated display systems are not really usable or meant for bubble canopy equipped airplanes. It won't be used with the F-15, but we're looking at building both a single & dual seat cockpit that would work within the 8ft diameter of the next version of the display. The box is not louvered - you're seeing the ribs that make up the toroidal shape that makes the screen. The ribs are 1/8" thick and spaced 3 degrees apart. Like the mirror, its only a 60 degree wide test assembly. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From geneb at deltasoft.com Sun Nov 21 07:46:47 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 07:46:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Collimated display...DONE! In-Reply-To: <20101121165356.A0193328014@ns2.simpits.org> References: <20101121165356.A0193328014@ns2.simpits.org> Message-ID: On Sun, 21 Nov 2010, David C. Allen wrote: > Gene and Wayne > > WOW, beyond words! > Thanks David. We found there is nothing more undignfied than the sound of grown men giggling like little girls. :) Wayne has pics & video that he took with his camera and as soon as it's available, I'll get it posted. I'm going to try to do a walk-around in the next day or so with the room lights up so you can see the position of everything. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From geneb at deltasoft.com Sun Nov 21 08:29:24 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 08:29:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] More collimated display video... Message-ID: Pulling down the mirror for the first time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y67TAo9Lv5g In flight: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJkZTvMfZac Thanks for watching!! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Sun Nov 21 11:41:00 2010 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 19:41:00 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Collimated display...DONE! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 21 Nov 2010, Gene Buckle wrote: > Well folks, it IS possible for a few geeks in a garage to build a fully > collimated cross-cockpit display system. Your cup runneth over with awesomeness Gene ! That is very very impressive. Look forward to the walkaround. -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Sun Nov 21 10:43:22 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 10:43:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Collimated display...DONE! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, 21 Nov 2010, Roy Coates wrote: > On Sun, 21 Nov 2010, Gene Buckle wrote: > >> Well folks, it IS possible for a few geeks in a garage to build a fully >> collimated cross-cockpit display system. > > > Your cup runneth over with awesomeness Gene ! > Hehe. I hope it doesn't stain...Jennifer'll kill me... ;) > > That is very very impressive. Look forward to the walkaround. > Thanks. I think I'm going to pick up a new Flip camera today - the old one is showing USB issues... g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From david at allen1.net Sun Nov 21 13:33:06 2010 From: david at allen1.net (David C. Allen) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 14:33:06 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] More collimated display video... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20101121213544.80D053280E9@ns2.simpits.org> At 08:29 AM 11/21/2010 -0800, you wrote: >Pulling down the mirror for the first time: >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y67TAo9Lv5g Gene So how much vacuum is required to pull the mirror smooth? David www.737FlightSim.com From geneb at deltasoft.com Sun Nov 21 13:03:31 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 13:03:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] More collimated display video... In-Reply-To: <20101121213544.80D053280E9@ns2.simpits.org> References: <20101121213544.80D053280E9@ns2.simpits.org> Message-ID: On Sun, 21 Nov 2010, David C. Allen wrote: > At 08:29 AM 11/21/2010 -0800, you wrote: > >> Pulling down the mirror for the first time: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y67TAo9Lv5g > > Gene > So how much vacuum is required to pull the mirror smooth? > No idea. I didn't have a vacuum gauge to install on the rig. I built a gate into the back of the enclosure that we've got open a tiny amount. With it completely closed, you can see the mylar come into contact with the edges of the outboard framework. We backed it off just a tad to keep it out of contact with that. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Nov 22 13:52:34 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 13:52:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] new walk-around video Message-ID: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zogFny49zrI This shows the various components of the collimated display. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From rd at ns.sympatico.ca Mon Nov 22 18:31:53 2010 From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 22:31:53 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] new walk-around video In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zogFny49zrI > > This shows the various components of the collimated display. > > g. > > Gene, That is very slick my friend. I have a stupid question though ... How come things aren't backwards? Did you set the projector for back projection? Or am I missing something. R From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Nov 22 16:13:58 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 16:13:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] new walk-around video In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, 22 Nov 2010, Rick Davis wrote: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zogFny49zrI >> >> This shows the various components of the collimated display. >> >> g. >> >> > > Gene, > > That is very slick my friend. I have a stupid question though ... How come > things aren't backwards? Did you set the projector for back projection? Or > am I missing something. > The projector is showing a reversed image on the screen surface so that when you look into the mirror, it's correct. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From rd at ns.sympatico.ca Mon Nov 22 18:53:30 2010 From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 22:53:30 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] new walk-around video In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <30D2600AFBBE482299BE72879E4B82AE@RickPC> >> >> That is very slick my friend. I have a stupid question though ... How >> come >> things aren't backwards? Did you set the projector for back projection? >> Or >> am I missing something. >> > > The projector is showing a reversed image on the screen surface so that > when you look into the mirror, it's correct. > > g. > > -- OK. That's what I thought. Kinda threw me for a minute. Very nice job. Could you use a piece of styrene, like shower stall liner instead of the paper? It's pretty formable with a heat gun or hair dryer I think r. From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Nov 22 16:39:48 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 16:39:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] new walk-around video In-Reply-To: <30D2600AFBBE482299BE72879E4B82AE@RickPC> References: <30D2600AFBBE482299BE72879E4B82AE@RickPC> Message-ID: On Mon, 22 Nov 2010, Rick Davis wrote: > >>> >>> That is very slick my friend. I have a stupid question though ... How >>> come >>> things aren't backwards? Did you set the projector for back projection? >>> Or >>> am I missing something. >>> >> >> The projector is showing a reversed image on the screen surface so that >> when you look into the mirror, it's correct. >> >> g. >> >> -- > > OK. That's what I thought. Kinda threw me for a minute. > > Very nice job. > > Could you use a piece of styrene, like shower stall liner instead of the > paper? It's pretty formable with a heat gun or hair dryer I think > Well for the test, we really weren't worried about the surface quality of the screen. When we build the next version, the spaces between the ribs will be filled with foam wedges that will be hot-wire cut and sanded to shape. We'll then fill all the imperfections and gaps with Bondo. At that point we'll probably paint it with the type of Glidden paint that Mike suggested in the display chapter of BRFS. We might also skin it with a high-contrast projection screen material. What's really cool is that there's no perceptable light loss - you pretty much get it all. It's fantastic. David Allen - do you mind if I post the pics of that full sized rear projection screen that you sent me? tnx. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Nov 22 16:55:31 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 16:55:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] full size screen... Message-ID: This is what the full size rear-projection screen from a 737 FFS looks like: http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll/images/rearprojectionscreen.pdf g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From rd at ns.sympatico.ca Mon Nov 22 19:30:25 2010 From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 23:30:25 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] full size screen... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Keee Riste ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Buckle" To: Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 8:55 PM Subject: [simpits-tech] full size screen... > This is what the full size rear-projection screen from a 737 FFS looks > like: > > http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll/images/rearprojectionscreen.pdf > > g. > > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project > > ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment > A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. > http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! > > Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical > minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which > holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd > by the clean end. > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Nov 22 17:13:37 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 17:13:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] full size screen... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, 22 Nov 2010, Rick Davis wrote: > Keee Riste > Now keep in mind, the size ratio of the CAE screen is pretty much the same as ours. The CAE mirror is *huge*. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From rd at ns.sympatico.ca Mon Nov 22 20:57:11 2010 From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 00:57:11 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] full size screen... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4CCD7C5355FC4872974E94B7D1CE225A@RickPC> > On Mon, 22 Nov 2010, Rick Davis wrote: > >> Keee Riste >> > Now keep in mind, the size ratio of the CAE screen is pretty much the same > as ours. The CAE mirror is *huge*. > > g. > > -- I love the CAE part. Makes me proud to be Canadian some how. These guys are serious. http://www.cae.com/en/about.cae/cae.glance.asp From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Mon Nov 22 23:34:02 2010 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 07:34:02 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] [x-plane-tech] new walk-around video In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 22 Nov 2010, Gene Buckle wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zogFny49zrI > > This shows the various components of the collimated display. Awesomely froody, Gene. Outstanding is what it is! -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Nov 23 04:20:18 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 04:20:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] [x-plane-tech] new walk-around video In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Roy Coates wrote: > On Mon, 22 Nov 2010, Gene Buckle wrote: > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zogFny49zrI >> >> This shows the various components of the collimated display. > > > Awesomely froody, Gene. Outstanding is what it is! > Thanks Roy. I can't wait to get started on the full-sized version. I'm also really hoping we can figure out how to explain how we did it and still avoid being turned into a smoking hole in the ground by the various patent holders. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Tue Nov 23 06:14:16 2010 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 14:14:16 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] [x-plane-tech] new walk-around video In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Gene Buckle wrote: > > Awesomely froody, Gene. Outstanding is what it is! > > I'm also really hoping we can figure out how to explain how we did it and > still avoid being turned into a smoking hole in the ground by the various > patent holders. On reflection, you're not pinching someone else's idea- you're just mirroring it. Just projecting my own viewpoint - which, if correctly collimated - will be yours too. Sorry, lost my focus for a moment there. I must be out of my depth of field. -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Nov 23 05:07:28 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 05:07:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] [x-plane-tech] new walk-around video In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Roy Coates wrote: > On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Gene Buckle wrote: > >>> Awesomely froody, Gene. Outstanding is what it is! >> >> I'm also really hoping we can figure out how to explain how we did it and >> still avoid being turned into a smoking hole in the ground by the various >> patent holders. > > > On reflection, you're not pinching someone else's idea- you're just > mirroring it. Just projecting my own viewpoint - which, if correctly > collimated - will be yours too. Sorry, lost my focus for a moment there. > I must be out of my depth of field. > *groans* I certainly hope you washed your hands after that... g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From david at allen1.net Tue Nov 23 07:53:15 2010 From: david at allen1.net (David C. Allen) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 08:53:15 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] [x-plane-tech] new walk-around video In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20101123155324.E799F1780003@ns2.simpits.org> At 02:14 PM 11/23/2010 +0000, you wrote: >On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Gene Buckle wrote: > > > > Awesomely froody, Gene. Outstanding is what it is! > > > > I'm also really hoping we can figure out how to explain how we did it and > > still avoid being turned into a smoking hole in the ground by the various > > patent holders. > >On reflection, you're not pinching someone else's idea- you're just >mirroring it. Just projecting my own viewpoint - which, if correctly >collimated - will be yours too. Sorry, lost my focus for a moment there. >I must be out of my depth of field. Roy you should just F-Stop it now ! David www.737FlightSim.com - >Roy Coates. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >_______________________________________________ >Simpits-tech mailing list >Simpits-tech at simpits.org >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the >above page. Thanks! From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Tue Nov 23 06:54:11 2010 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 14:54:11 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] [x-plane-tech] new walk-around video In-Reply-To: <20101123155324.E799F1780003@ns2.simpits.org> Message-ID: On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, David C. Allen wrote: > >On reflection, you're not pinching someone else's idea- you're just > >mirroring it. Just projecting my own viewpoint - which, if correctly > >collimated - will be yours too. Sorry, lost my focus for a moment there. > >I must be out of my depth of field. > > Roy you should just F-Stop it now ! Oooh! I just saw an aperture in Gene's comments and zoomed right on in. I never expected the Keystone Kops to come after me! I'll be careful to screen my comments now. I'd hate to be sent to prism! -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From david at allen1.net Tue Nov 23 08:05:43 2010 From: david at allen1.net (David C. Allen) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 09:05:43 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] [x-plane-tech] new walk-around video In-Reply-To: References: <20101123155324.E799F1780003@ns2.simpits.org> Message-ID: <20101123160550.E531A1780003@ns2.simpits.org> At 02:54 PM 11/23/2010 +0000, you wrote: >On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, David C. Allen wrote: > > > >On reflection, you're not pinching someone else's idea- you're just > > >mirroring it. Just projecting my own viewpoint - which, if correctly > > >collimated - will be yours too. Sorry, lost my focus for a moment there. > > >I must be out of my depth of field. > > > > Roy you should just F-Stop it now ! > > >Oooh! I just saw an aperture in Gene's comments and zoomed right on in. I >never expected the Keystone Kops to come after me! > >I'll be careful to screen my comments now. I'd hate to be sent to prism! I am sure Roy that once you are in prism, you will be a rain bow! David www.737FlightSim.com >-- > >Roy Coates. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >_______________________________________________ >Simpits-tech mailing list >Simpits-tech at simpits.org >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the >above page. Thanks! From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Nov 23 05:40:41 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 05:40:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] [x-plane-tech] new walk-around video In-Reply-To: <20101123155324.E799F1780003@ns2.simpits.org> References: <20101123155324.E799F1780003@ns2.simpits.org> Message-ID: On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, David C. Allen wrote: > At 02:14 PM 11/23/2010 +0000, you wrote: >> On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Gene Buckle wrote: >> >>>> Awesomely froody, Gene. Outstanding is what it is! >>> >>> I'm also really hoping we can figure out how to explain how we did it and >>> still avoid being turned into a smoking hole in the ground by the various >>> patent holders. >> >> On reflection, you're not pinching someone else's idea- you're just >> mirroring it. Just projecting my own viewpoint - which, if correctly >> collimated - will be yours too. Sorry, lost my focus for a moment there. >> I must be out of my depth of field. > > Roy you should just F-Stop it now ! > "Roy's not crazy, he just left his shutter open too long." g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Nov 23 05:42:55 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 05:42:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] [x-plane-tech] new walk-around video In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Roy Coates wrote: > On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, David C. Allen wrote: > >>> On reflection, you're not pinching someone else's idea- you're just >>> mirroring it. Just projecting my own viewpoint - which, if correctly >>> collimated - will be yours too. Sorry, lost my focus for a moment there. >>> I must be out of my depth of field. >> >> Roy you should just F-Stop it now ! > > > Oooh! I just saw an aperture in Gene's comments and zoomed right on in. I > never expected the Keystone Kops to come after me! > > I'll be careful to screen my comments now. I'd hate to be sent to prism! > Yes folks, we run the whole spectrum here at simpits-tech! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Tue Nov 23 07:02:57 2010 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 15:02:57 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] [x-plane-tech] new walk-around video In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Gene Buckle wrote: > > Roy you should just F-Stop it now ! > > > > "Roy's not crazy, he just left his shutter open too long." Ah hah... I knew that a projector discussion would 'develop' into a camera one :) -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From david at allen1.net Tue Nov 23 08:16:22 2010 From: david at allen1.net (David C. Allen) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 09:16:22 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] [x-plane-tech] new walk-around video In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20101123161631.777F91780003@ns2.simpits.org> At 03:02 PM 11/23/2010 +0000, you wrote: >On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Gene Buckle wrote: > > > > Roy you should just F-Stop it now ! > > > > > > > "Roy's not crazy, he just left his shutter open too long." Well if Roy's in prism he better careful what he bends over to pick up with an open shutter! David www.737FlightSim.com From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Tue Nov 23 07:11:44 2010 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 15:11:44 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] [x-plane-tech] new walk-around video In-Reply-To: <20101123161631.777F91780003@ns2.simpits.org> Message-ID: On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, David C. Allen wrote: > > > "Roy's not crazy, he just left his shutter open too long." > > Well if Roy's in prism he better careful what he bends over to pick > up with an open shutter! Yikes - I'd certainly not want to be over-exposed in that situation! -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From david at allen1.net Tue Nov 23 08:26:10 2010 From: david at allen1.net (David C. Allen) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 09:26:10 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] [x-plane-tech] new walk-around video In-Reply-To: References: <20101123161631.777F91780003@ns2.simpits.org> Message-ID: <20101123162617.8952E1780003@ns2.simpits.org> At 03:11 PM 11/23/2010 +0000, you wrote: >On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, David C. Allen wrote: > > > > > "Roy's not crazy, he just left his shutter open too long." > > > > Well if Roy's in prism he better careful what he bends over to pick > > up with an open shutter! > > >Yikes - I'd certainly not want to be over-exposed in that situation! I am sure you iris would shutter! David www.737FlightSim.com From mattford1 at me.com Tue Nov 23 10:04:35 2010 From: mattford1 at me.com (Matt Ford) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 11:04:35 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] Collimated display...DONE! In-Reply-To: <20101121165356.A0193328014@ns2.simpits.org> References: <20101121165356.A0193328014@ns2.simpits.org> Message-ID: <4771FE61-C5A3-4A4A-91A8-8A9DE97D7DDB@me.com> Amazing! Sent from my iPad On Nov 21, 2010, at 9:53 AM, "David C. Allen" wrote: > Gene and Wayne > > WOW, beyond words! > > David > www.737FlightSim.com > > At 06:05 AM 11/21/2010 -0800, you wrote: >> Well folks, it IS possible for a few geeks in a garage to build a fully >> collimated cross-cockpit display system. >> >> Here's video and some pics: >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yaDnXYlf8k >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ1wNFgpVJk >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywEtU7VnzPc >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lZLTY021VQ >> >> http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll/collimated_display.html >> >> I can't wait until we get the 180 degree version built! :D >> >> g. >> >> -- >> Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 >> http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. >> http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project >> >> ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment >> A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. >> http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! >> >> Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical >> minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which >> holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd >> by the clean end. >> _______________________________________________ >> Simpits-tech mailing list >> Simpits-tech at simpits.org >> http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >> To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the >> above page. Thanks! > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Nov 23 08:06:27 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 08:06:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Collimated display...DONE! In-Reply-To: <4771FE61-C5A3-4A4A-91A8-8A9DE97D7DDB@me.com> References: <20101121165356.A0193328014@ns2.simpits.org> <4771FE61-C5A3-4A4A-91A8-8A9DE97D7DDB@me.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Matt Ford wrote: > Amazing! > Thanks Matt. We're pretty damn proud of it. :D g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From mattford1 at me.com Tue Nov 23 10:54:37 2010 From: mattford1 at me.com (Matt Forf) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 11:54:37 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] Collimated display...DONE! In-Reply-To: References: <20101121165356.A0193328014@ns2.simpits.org> <4771FE61-C5A3-4A4A-91A8-8A9DE97D7DDB@me.com> Message-ID: <764DF449-30B7-4F15-9E3B-C9920340E4A5@me.com> Probably weighs a thousand lbs less than mine LOL Sent from my iPhone On Nov 23, 2010, at 9:06 AM, Gene Buckle wrote: > On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Matt Ford wrote: > >> Amazing! >> > > Thanks Matt. We're pretty damn proud of it. :D > > g. > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project > > ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment > A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. > http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! > > Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical > minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which > holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd > by the clean end. > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From mattford1 at me.com Tue Nov 23 11:01:26 2010 From: mattford1 at me.com (Matt Ford) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 12:01:26 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] Collimated display...DONE! In-Reply-To: References: <20101121165356.A0193328014@ns2.simpits.org> <4771FE61-C5A3-4A4A-91A8-8A9DE97D7DDB@me.com> Message-ID: Gene are guys guys going to do a 180 degree version? BTW sent the links to my friends at RSI visual systems. I think they will be amazed! Sent from my iPad On Nov 23, 2010, at 9:06 AM, Gene Buckle wrote: > On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Matt Ford wrote: > >> Amazing! >> > > Thanks Matt. We're pretty damn proud of it. :D > > g. > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project > > ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment > A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. > http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! > > Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical > minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which > holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd > by the clean end. > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Nov 23 09:13:07 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 09:13:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Collimated display...DONE! In-Reply-To: <764DF449-30B7-4F15-9E3B-C9920340E4A5@me.com> References: <20101121165356.A0193328014@ns2.simpits.org> <4771FE61-C5A3-4A4A-91A8-8A9DE97D7DDB@me.com> <764DF449-30B7-4F15-9E3B-C9920340E4A5@me.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Matt Forf wrote: > Probably weighs a thousand lbs less than mine LOL > Does yours weigh 960lbs? :D g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Nov 23 09:14:20 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 09:14:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Collimated display...DONE! In-Reply-To: References: <20101121165356.A0193328014@ns2.simpits.org> <4771FE61-C5A3-4A4A-91A8-8A9DE97D7DDB@me.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Matt Ford wrote: > Gene are guys guys going to do a 180 degree version? BTW sent the links > to my friends at RSI visual systems. I think they will be amazed! Yes. We're going to start working on that this coming weekend. It'll be an 8 foot diameter mirror. That's the largest we can make given that you can't buy mylar in rolls wider than 56". g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From dabigboy at cox.net Tue Nov 23 13:41:42 2010 From: dabigboy at cox.net (dabigboy at cox.net) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 13:41:42 -0800 Subject: [simpits-tech] Collimated display...DONE! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20101123164142.P0DLX.1312690.imail@fed1rmwml4201> Wow, that's pretty amazing. I love my 37" monitor, but there is nothing like the size and depth perception of a good collimated system. I shall eagerly await the fancy version of which you speak in the video! :) Matt ---- Gene Buckle wrote: > Well folks, it IS possible for a few geeks in a garage to build a fully > collimated cross-cockpit display system. > > Here's video and some pics: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yaDnXYlf8k > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ1wNFgpVJk > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywEtU7VnzPc > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lZLTY021VQ > > http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll/collimated_display.html > > I can't wait until we get the 180 degree version built! :D > > g. > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project > > ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment > A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. > http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! > > Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical > minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which > holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd > by the clean end. > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From rd at ns.sympatico.ca Tue Nov 23 14:01:29 2010 From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 18:01:29 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] Collimated display...DONE! In-Reply-To: References: <20101121165356.A0193328014@ns2.simpits.org><4771FE61-C5A3-4A4A-91A8-8A9DE97D7DDB@me.com> Message-ID: <12D6D97F405F4569BA5D0207915470F2@RickPC> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Collimated display...DONE! > On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Matt Ford wrote: > >> Gene are guys guys going to do a 180 degree version? BTW sent the links >> to my friends at RSI visual systems. I think they will be amazed! > > Yes. We're going to start working on that this coming weekend. It'll be > an 8 foot diameter mirror. That's the largest we can make given that you > can't buy mylar in rolls wider than 56". > > g. > And are we going to make up a set of plans/shop bot components for this one Gene? I have these three lovely Proxima X350 DLP Projectors here gathering a lot of dust. I doubt there's 20 hours on any of them, and each has a remote and a ceiling mount assy. They would be perfect for a set up like that me thinks. R From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Tue Nov 23 13:34:58 2010 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 21:34:58 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Collimated display...DONE! In-Reply-To: <12D6D97F405F4569BA5D0207915470F2@RickPC> Message-ID: On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Rick Davis wrote: > And are we going to make up a set of plans/shop bot components for this one > Gene? Good idea Rick! > I have these three lovely Proxima X350 DLP Projectors here gathering a lot > of dust. I doubt there's 20 hours on any of them, and each has a remote and > a ceiling mount assy. They would be perfect for a set up like that me > thinks. I too have 3 projectors (with image warpers) and instructions from my boss to build a wraparound for the new J41 sim. -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From mattford1 at me.com Tue Nov 23 16:57:58 2010 From: mattford1 at me.com (Matt Forf) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 17:57:58 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] Collimated display...DONE! In-Reply-To: References: <20101121165356.A0193328014@ns2.simpits.org> <4771FE61-C5A3-4A4A-91A8-8A9DE97D7DDB@me.com> <764DF449-30B7-4F15-9E3B-C9920340E4A5@me.com> Message-ID: <92E0A72D-A850-4034-945A-B1161CDFB78F@me.com> About 1800 Sent from my iPhone On Nov 23, 2010, at 10:13 AM, Gene Buckle wrote: > On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Matt Forf wrote: > >> Probably weighs a thousand lbs less than mine LOL >> > Does yours weigh 960lbs? :D > > g. > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project > > ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment > A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. > http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! > > Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical > minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which > holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd > by the clean end. > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Nov 23 14:57:43 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 14:57:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Collimated display...DONE! In-Reply-To: <12D6D97F405F4569BA5D0207915470F2@RickPC> References: <20101121165356.A0193328014@ns2.simpits.org><4771FE61-C5A3-4A4A-91A8-8A9DE97D7DDB@me.com> <12D6D97F405F4569BA5D0207915470F2@RickPC> Message-ID: On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Rick Davis wrote: > > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Collimated display...DONE! > > >> On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Matt Ford wrote: >> >>> Gene are guys guys going to do a 180 degree version? BTW sent the links >>> to my friends at RSI visual systems. I think they will be amazed! >> >> Yes. We're going to start working on that this coming weekend. It'll be >> an 8 foot diameter mirror. That's the largest we can make given that you >> can't buy mylar in rolls wider than 56". >> >> g. >> > > And are we going to make up a set of plans/shop bot components for this one > Gene? > Probably not. We still need to sit down and figure exactly what patented methods will end up in the final project. Unlike Copyright, there's no fair-use provision with patents. At this point all we can really do is show off the end-result, but not produce plans that would allow anyone to do it. > I have these three lovely Proxima X350 DLP Projectors here gathering a lot > of dust. I doubt there's 20 hours on any of them, and each has a remote and > a ceiling mount assy. They would be perfect for a set up like that me > thinks. What resolution are they? Do you know if they can be mounted vertically (beam pointed straight up) without burning them out? g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From mattford1 at me.com Tue Nov 23 17:49:38 2010 From: mattford1 at me.com (Matt Forf) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 18:49:38 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] Collimated display...DONE! In-Reply-To: References: <20101121165356.A0193328014@ns2.simpits.org> <4771FE61-C5A3-4A4A-91A8-8A9DE97D7DDB@me.com> <12D6D97F405F4569BA5D0207915470F2@RickPC> Message-ID: I thought the patents expired on this stuff a long time ago Sent from my iPhone On Nov 23, 2010, at 3:57 PM, Gene Buckle wrote: > On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Rick Davis wrote: > >> >> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Collimated display...DONE! >> >> >>> On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Matt Ford wrote: >>> >>>> Gene are guys guys going to do a 180 degree version? BTW sent the links >>>> to my friends at RSI visual systems. I think they will be amazed! >>> >>> Yes. We're going to start working on that this coming weekend. It'll be >>> an 8 foot diameter mirror. That's the largest we can make given that you >>> can't buy mylar in rolls wider than 56". >>> >>> g. >>> >> >> And are we going to make up a set of plans/shop bot components for this one >> Gene? >> > Probably not. We still need to sit down and figure exactly what > patented methods will end up in the final project. Unlike Copyright, > there's no fair-use provision with patents. At this point all we can > really do is show off the end-result, but not produce plans that would > allow anyone to do it. > >> I have these three lovely Proxima X350 DLP Projectors here gathering a lot >> of dust. I doubt there's 20 hours on any of them, and each has a remote and >> a ceiling mount assy. They would be perfect for a set up like that me >> thinks. > > What resolution are they? Do you know if they can be mounted vertically > (beam pointed straight up) without burning them out? > > g. > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project > > ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment > A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. > http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! > > Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical > minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which > holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd > by the clean end. > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From rd at ns.sympatico.ca Tue Nov 23 18:03:30 2010 From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 22:03:30 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] Collimated display...DONE! In-Reply-To: References: <20101121165356.A0193328014@ns2.simpits.org><4771FE61-C5A3-4A4A-91A8-8A9DE97D7DDB@me.com><12D6D97F405F4569BA5D0207915470F2@RickPC> Message-ID: <2AF14848BFAC4AD6BF365781E41B97E9@RickPC> > What resolution are they? Do you know if they can be mounted vertically > (beam pointed straight up) without burning them out? > > g. > > -- As a patent holder Gene, I can tell you they aren't worth the paper they are written on 99% of the time. At least in this concept. You only need to make an improvement to cabbage or over-ride the patent. (if there are any at all. I suspect there are patents on the process and not the final result) You have already exceeded that. You have developed a new process. Unfortunately, by posting it to You Tube etc, it will not be patentable. File a Caveat with the US Patent service in any case. It's 100.00. I think the projectors would be very happy pointed up. Heat rises afterall. What I like about them, is that they have a a solid metal housing. Google: Proxima X350 or try this: http://www.projectorcentral.com/Proxima-UltraLight_X350.htm for the specs. R From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Nov 23 15:57:59 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 15:57:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Collimated display...DONE! In-Reply-To: <92E0A72D-A850-4034-945A-B1161CDFB78F@me.com> References: <20101121165356.A0193328014@ns2.simpits.org> <4771FE61-C5A3-4A4A-91A8-8A9DE97D7DDB@me.com> <764DF449-30B7-4F15-9E3B-C9920340E4A5@me.com> <92E0A72D-A850-4034-945A-B1161CDFB78F@me.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Matt Forf wrote: > About 1800 > > Is that for the beam-splitter system you've got? g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Nov 23 15:58:58 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 15:58:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Collimated display...DONE! In-Reply-To: References: <20101121165356.A0193328014@ns2.simpits.org> <4771FE61-C5A3-4A4A-91A8-8A9DE97D7DDB@me.com> <12D6D97F405F4569BA5D0207915470F2@RickPC> Message-ID: On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Matt Forf wrote: > I thought the patents expired on this stuff a long time ago > Nope. Some of them were granted in 2002. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Nov 23 16:04:33 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 16:04:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Collimated display...DONE! In-Reply-To: <2AF14848BFAC4AD6BF365781E41B97E9@RickPC> References: <20101121165356.A0193328014@ns2.simpits.org><4771FE61-C5A3-4A4A-91A8-8A9DE97D7DDB@me.com><12D6D97F405F4569BA5D0207915470F2@RickPC> <2AF14848BFAC4AD6BF365781E41B97E9@RickPC> Message-ID: On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Rick Davis wrote: > >> What resolution are they? Do you know if they can be mounted vertically >> (beam pointed straight up) without burning them out? >> >> g. >> >> -- > > As a patent holder Gene, I can tell you they aren't worth the paper they are > written on 99% of the time. At least in this concept. You only need to make > an improvement to cabbage or over-ride the patent. (if there are any at all. > I suspect there are patents on the process and not the final result) You > have already exceeded that. You have developed a new process. Unfortunately, > by posting it to You Tube etc, it will not be patentable. > The problem is that we could easily be bankrupted by attourney fees even if they didn't win - we can't take the risk. Companies like CAE have much deeper pockets than we do. > I think the projectors would be very happy pointed up. Heat rises afterall. > What I like about them, is that they have a a solid metal housing. > > Google: > > Proxima X350 > Holy crap! That price is insane! Wayne found some 1080p HD projectors for under $800 a pop. We'll likely use those for the new build. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From brian at Sikkema.us Tue Nov 23 18:48:08 2010 From: brian at Sikkema.us (Brian Sikkema) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 11:48:08 +0900 Subject: [simpits-tech] Collimated display...DONE! In-Reply-To: References: <20101121165356.A0193328014@ns2.simpits.org><4771FE61-C5A3-4A4A-91A8-8A9DE97D7DDB@me.com><12D6D97F405F4569BA5D0207915470F2@RickPC> <2AF14848BFAC4AD6BF365781E41B97E9@RickPC> Message-ID: <4CEC7CE8.7050806@Sikkema.us> > Holy crap! That price is insane! Wayne found some 1080p HD projectors > for under $800 a pop. We'll likely use those for the new build. > Linky linky? When we get back stateside Tina and I *REALLY* want to set up a home theater room.... :D Brian From Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com Tue Nov 23 19:07:58 2010 From: Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com (Sean Galbraith) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 16:07:58 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] Collimated display...DONE! In-Reply-To: <4CEC7CE8.7050806@Sikkema.us> References: <20101121165356.A0193328014@ns2.simpits.org><4771FE61-C5A3-4A4A-91A8-8A9DE97D7DDB@me.com><12D6D97F405F4569BA5D0207915470F2@RickPC> <2AF14848BFAC4AD6BF365781E41B97E9@RickPC> <4CEC7CE8.7050806@Sikkema.us> Message-ID: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBD0D675@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Try the Mitsubishi HC3800 for a good price, good performing 1080p projector... I have 3 at work that I'm playing with at the moment :-) SeanG ________________________________ From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Brian Sikkema Sent: Wednesday, 24 November 2010 3:48 p.m. To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Collimated display...DONE! > Holy crap! That price is insane! Wayne found some 1080p HD projectors > for under $800 a pop. We'll likely use those for the new build. > Linky linky? When we get back stateside Tina and I *REALLY* want to set up a home theater room.... :D Brian _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! ________________________________ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3274 - Release Date: 11/23/10 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20101124/0f78fd63/attachment.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Nov 23 16:45:33 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 16:45:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Collimated display...DONE! In-Reply-To: <4CEC7CE8.7050806@Sikkema.us> References: <20101121165356.A0193328014@ns2.simpits.org><4771FE61-C5A3-4A4A-91A8-8A9DE97D7DDB@me.com><12D6D97F405F4569BA5D0207915470F2@RickPC> <2AF14848BFAC4AD6BF365781E41B97E9@RickPC> <4CEC7CE8.7050806@Sikkema.us> Message-ID: On Wed, 24 Nov 2010, Brian Sikkema wrote: > >> Holy crap! That price is insane! Wayne found some 1080p HD projectors >> for under $800 a pop. We'll likely use those for the new build. >> > > Linky linky? > > When we get back stateside Tina and I *REALLY* want to set up a home > theater room.... :D > I asked Wayne. As soon as he gets back to me I'll post the link. AFAIR he found it on Newegg. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From rd at ns.sympatico.ca Tue Nov 23 19:22:45 2010 From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 23:22:45 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] Collimated display...DONE! In-Reply-To: References: <20101121165356.A0193328014@ns2.simpits.org><4771FE61-C5A3-4A4A-91A8-8A9DE97D7DDB@me.com><12D6D97F405F4569BA5D0207915470F2@RickPC><2AF14848BFAC4AD6BF365781E41B97E9@RickPC><4CEC7CE8.7050806@Sikkema.us> Message-ID: <7B42118060AA4F1EAD5016D545730956@RickPC> That was the price when they first came out Gene. They are worth 500.00 each now tops. I'd let the works of them go for less, except, I intend to keep them. ----- Original Message ----- I'd let the From: "Gene Buckle" To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 8:45 PM Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Collimated display...DONE! > On Wed, 24 Nov 2010, Brian Sikkema wrote: > >> >>> Holy crap! That price is insane! Wayne found some 1080p HD projectors >>> for under $800 a pop. We'll likely use those for the new build. >>> >> >> Linky linky? >> >> When we get back stateside Tina and I *REALLY* want to set up a home >> theater room.... :D >> > I asked Wayne. As soon as he gets back to me I'll post the link. AFAIR > he found it on Newegg. > > g. > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project > > ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment > A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. > http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! > > Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical > minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which > holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd > by the clean end. > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Nov 23 17:02:30 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 17:02:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Collimated display...DONE! In-Reply-To: <7B42118060AA4F1EAD5016D545730956@RickPC> References: <20101121165356.A0193328014@ns2.simpits.org><4771FE61-C5A3-4A4A-91A8-8A9DE97D7DDB@me.com><12D6D97F405F4569BA5D0207915470F2@RickPC><2AF14848BFAC4AD6BF365781E41B97E9@RickPC><4CEC7CE8.7050806@Sikkema.us> <7B42118060AA4F1EAD5016D545730956@RickPC> Message-ID: On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Rick Davis wrote: > That was the price when they first came out Gene. They are worth 500.00 > each now tops. I'd let the works of them go for less, except, I intend to > keep them. > ahh, ok. I was a-feared you'd been taken. *laughs* Those projectors should work pretty well. 800x600 is FAR too low. The screen door problem is very noticable at that resolution. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Nov 26 19:08:26 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 19:08:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Updates... Message-ID: First off, the 16 channel board I built to drive all the indicator lamps in the F-15 is done and tested! You can see pics at http://geneb.simpits.org. The board is designed to plug right into the Centipede Shield (http://www.macetech.com/store) for use with an Arduino. I'll post the code for it when I get it completed. The other update is some extra work that Wayne & I got done. It turns out that a 225 degree system may be possible with a 56" wide roll of mylar - we're keeping the 8 foot diameter as well as the 40 degree horizontal FOV (the mirror goes from lat 0 to 40). To support that a screen must first be built. The parts: http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll/images/screen_frame_parts.jpg The blue tape is there to mask off the parts that had been cut for the first test screen framework. These parts will build the framework for this: http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll/images/screen_assembly.jpg The ribs are made of 1/8" hardboard and will have a hot-wire cut wedge of insulation foam between each one. After sanding & sealing, it'll make a perfect screen! If anyone knows where I can get rolls of 2mil silvered mylar in widths greater than 56", please let me know. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From brian at sikkema.us Sun Nov 28 05:48:54 2010 From: brian at sikkema.us (Brian Sikkema) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 22:48:54 +0900 Subject: [simpits-tech] Updates... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4CF25DC6.3000409@sikkema.us> > It turns out that a 225 degree system may be possible with a 56" wide roll > of mylar - we're keeping the 8 foot diameter as well as the 40 degree > horizontal FOV (the mirror goes from lat 0 to 40). To support that a > screen must first be built. You, sir, are a madman, a MADMAN I say! lol. That will be amazing... I hope you can pull it off!! BTW, on a complete side note, I just got back from a TDY, and somehow or another as I was sitting on a beach on a tropical island drinking some Coronas with my crew (I know, rough job, but by golly someone has to defend America!!) the topic of 007 came up. I was telling these folks about the story behind your F-15, the whole "Shrimp Boat" incident, and my boom, a grisly old SMSgt who's been in 26 years or so perked right up, he knew the whole story, where it was based out of, the whole nine yards! Knew all about the crash, too. lol. I got a pretty good kick out of that. He's not into sims or anything like that, but he does have a fully restored B-52 ejection seat. His dad flew B-52s back in the day (actually, he also flew B-29's apparently, at the tail end of WWII) and he picked one up from a salvage yard once upon a time and had it restored. Anyway, just thought you'd get a kick out of that - in certain circles, you've got a famous jet there, Gene. ;) Brian From geneb at deltasoft.com Sun Nov 28 07:31:12 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 07:31:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Updates... In-Reply-To: <4CF25DC6.3000409@sikkema.us> References: <4CF25DC6.3000409@sikkema.us> Message-ID: On Sun, 28 Nov 2010, Brian Sikkema wrote: > >> It turns out that a 225 degree system may be possible with a 56" wide roll >> of mylar - we're keeping the 8 foot diameter as well as the 40 degree >> horizontal FOV (the mirror goes from lat 0 to 40). To support that a >> screen must first be built. > You, sir, are a madman, a MADMAN I say! lol. That will be amazing... I > hope you can pull it off!! > You and me both. :) > BTW, on a complete side note, I just got back from a TDY, and somehow or > another as I was sitting on a beach on a tropical island drinking some > Coronas with my crew (I know, rough job, but by golly someone has to > defend America!!) the topic of 007 came up. I was telling these folks > about the story behind your F-15, the whole "Shrimp Boat" incident, and > my boom, a grisly old SMSgt who's been in 26 years or so perked right > up, he knew the whole story, where it was based out of, the whole nine > yards! Knew all about the crash, too. lol. I got a pretty good kick out > of that. > Now that's cool! > Anyway, just thought you'd get a kick out of that - in certain circles, > you've got a famous jet there, Gene. ;) > Apparently. :) Thanks for sharing Brian! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From geneb at deltasoft.com Sun Nov 28 16:43:47 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 16:43:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] new screen... Message-ID: Got a bit more work done yesterday... http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll/collimated_display_page2.html g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From brian at sikkema.us Sun Nov 28 22:57:33 2010 From: brian at sikkema.us (Brian Sikkema) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 15:57:33 +0900 Subject: [simpits-tech] new screen... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4CF34EDD.7030607@sikkema.us> On 11/29/2010 9:43 AM, Gene Buckle wrote: > Got a bit more work done yesterday... > > http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll/collimated_display_page2.html > > g. > > Looks good, Gene! So now that you're playing with the larger wrap-around, I have to ask - what approach are you taking to the joins between the projected images? Have you found an inexpensive method of doing the edge blending, or are you just going to fiddle with butting the edges together? Brian From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Sun Nov 28 23:16:24 2010 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 07:16:24 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] new screen... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 28 Nov 2010, Gene Buckle wrote: > Got a bit more work done yesterday... > > http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll/collimated_display_page2.html > Quite simply outstanding, Gene :-) Love the joints - you describe them as tight - they look perfect. You obviously have far too much free time and cash to play with!! -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Nov 29 03:18:11 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 03:18:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] new screen... In-Reply-To: <4CF34EDD.7030607@sikkema.us> References: <4CF34EDD.7030607@sikkema.us> Message-ID: On Mon, 29 Nov 2010, Brian Sikkema wrote: > On 11/29/2010 9:43 AM, Gene Buckle wrote: >> Got a bit more work done yesterday... >> >> http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll/collimated_display_page2.html >> >> g. >> >> > Looks good, Gene! > Thanks. Unfortunately the server fell over _again_. I think it's telling me it's time for a new motherboard. *sigh* > So now that you're playing with the larger wrap-around, I have to ask - > what approach are you taking to the joins between the projected images? > Have you found an inexpensive method of doing the edge blending, or are > you just going to fiddle with butting the edges together? > Until the Nthusim guys add edge-blending to their software, it'll have to be done entirely by hand. With the 15' screen, I overlapped the screen edges by about 6" and then got it adjusted properly within the Nthusim alignment grid. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Nov 29 03:26:35 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 03:26:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] new screen... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, 29 Nov 2010, Roy Coates wrote: > On Sun, 28 Nov 2010, Gene Buckle wrote: > >> Got a bit more work done yesterday... >> >> http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll/collimated_display_page2.html >> > > > Quite simply outstanding, Gene :-) > > Love the joints - you describe them as tight - they look perfect. > > You obviously have far too much free time and cash to play with!! Time I got, cash I don't. :) The parts were tight enough to require gentle persuasion with a rubber mallet in order to get 'em together. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From brian at sikkema.us Mon Nov 29 06:40:07 2010 From: brian at sikkema.us (Brian Sikkema) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 23:40:07 +0900 Subject: [simpits-tech] new screen... In-Reply-To: References: <4CF34EDD.7030607@sikkema.us> Message-ID: <4CF3BB47.806@sikkema.us> > >> So now that you're playing with the larger wrap-around, I have to ask - >> what approach are you taking to the joins between the projected images? >> Have you found an inexpensive method of doing the edge blending, or are >> you just going to fiddle with butting the edges together? >> > Until the Nthusim guys add edge-blending to their software, it'll have > to be done entirely by hand. With the 15' screen, I overlapped the > screen edges by about 6" and then got it adjusted properly within the > Nthusim alignment grid. > Did you have much issue with the edges where you'd overlapped being too bright? I will say this, even in multi-million dollar AF sims, I've yet to see perfect edge-blending. But usually the rest of the display area is immersive enough that you quickly forget about it. Brian From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Nov 29 03:43:48 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 03:43:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] new screen... In-Reply-To: <4CF3BB47.806@sikkema.us> References: <4CF34EDD.7030607@sikkema.us> <4CF3BB47.806@sikkema.us> Message-ID: On Mon, 29 Nov 2010, Brian Sikkema wrote: >>> So now that you're playing with the larger wrap-around, I have to ask - >>> what approach are you taking to the joins between the projected images? >>> Have you found an inexpensive method of doing the edge blending, or are >>> you just going to fiddle with butting the edges together? >>> >> Until the Nthusim guys add edge-blending to their software, it'll have >> to be done entirely by hand. With the 15' screen, I overlapped the >> screen edges by about 6" and then got it adjusted properly within the >> Nthusim alignment grid. >> > Did you have much issue with the edges where you'd overlapped being too > bright? > Not really. Then again, those DIY projectors I built aren't that bright to begin with. I suspect I'll have to be a lot more precise with the new projectors. > I will say this, even in multi-million dollar AF sims, I've yet to see > perfect edge-blending. But usually the rest of the display area is > immersive enough that you quickly forget about it. > Which sims are you referring to? Collimated displays or the "pentagon" screen system used for sims like the F-15? One thing I learned a long time ago, once you get into the mechanics of flying the airplane, you completely forget how good/bad the scene generator is. The only time it's really important is for take-offs and landings anyway. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Mon Nov 29 06:35:54 2010 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 14:35:54 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] new screen... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 29 Nov 2010, Gene Buckle wrote: > Time I got, cash I don't. :) The parts were tight enough to require > gentle persuasion with a rubber mallet in order to get 'em together. :) "Satisfyingly Snug" -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dabigboy at cox.net Mon Nov 29 13:55:34 2010 From: dabigboy at cox.net (dabigboy at cox.net) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 13:55:34 -0800 Subject: [simpits-tech] new screen... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20101129165534.4VFGV.252802.imail@fed1rmwml30> ---- Gene Buckle wrote: > > > I will say this, even in multi-million dollar AF sims, I've yet to see > > perfect edge-blending. But usually the rest of the display area is > > immersive enough that you quickly forget about it. > > > Which sims are you referring to? Collimated displays or the "pentagon" > screen system used for sims like the F-15? The daytime sims I recall at FlightSafety had no noticeable edges between displays, leaving me to guess at how many displays were actually running. Same for the older night sim (VITAL9, I think) although since it was night-only I could have easily missed the edge imperfections. I think VITAL9 uses some sort of lens in front of the pilots, unlike a modern projected collimated display. The newer day sims are all collimated against a spherical mirror, not unlike Gene's project, and look amazing. Btw Gene, your screen just keepings getting better! I am anxiously following your developments. :) Once I get a bigger house, I will probably want to upgrade from my current monitor, and I have all but eliminated other options aside from some sort of genuine collimated display. Hey Gene, quick thought for you. Have you considered going to something more advanced than even a high-end DLP or LCD projector? I'm thinking of the true-black issues we have with these systems. I was so used to my old CRT monitors that when I switched to LCD, the bright "darkness" surprised me. I suppose you would have to round up some old CRTs and rig up a fresnel lens system, basically a homemade project with a CRT instead of an LCD. Not sure how you would get the CRT bright enough though. Matt From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Nov 29 10:49:23 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 10:49:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] new screen... In-Reply-To: <20101129165534.4VFGV.252802.imail@fed1rmwml30> References: <20101129165534.4VFGV.252802.imail@fed1rmwml30> Message-ID: On Mon, 29 Nov 2010, dabigboy at cox.net wrote: >> >>> I will say this, even in multi-million dollar AF sims, I've yet to see >>> perfect edge-blending. But usually the rest of the display area is >>> immersive enough that you quickly forget about it. >>> >> Which sims are you referring to? Collimated displays or the "pentagon" >> screen system used for sims like the F-15? > > The daytime sims I recall at FlightSafety had no noticeable edges > between displays, leaving me to guess at how many displays were actually > running. Same for the older night sim (VITAL9, I think) although since > it was night-only I could have easily missed the edge imperfections. I > think VITAL9 uses some sort of lens in front of the pilots, unlike a > modern projected collimated display. The newer day sims are all > collimated against a spherical mirror, not unlike Gene's project, and > look amazing. > The Vital II I worked with used individual displays (5 I think) along with beam-splitter boxes and mirrors. Night-time visuals only of course. > Btw Gene, your screen just keepings getting better! I am anxiously > following your developments. :) Once I get a bigger house, I will > probably want to upgrade from my current monitor, and I have all but > eliminated other options aside from some sort of genuine collimated > display. > Don't eliminate that fast - we're still in a position of not being able to give detailed instructions on how to build one. > Hey Gene, quick thought for you. Have you considered going to something > more advanced than even a high-end DLP or LCD projector? I'm thinking of > the true-black issues we have with these systems. I was so used to my > old CRT monitors that when I switched to LCD, the bright "darkness" > surprised me. I suppose you would have to round up some old CRTs and rig > up a fresnel lens system, basically a homemade project with a CRT > instead of an LCD. Not sure how you would get the CRT bright enough > though. The optics would likely cost me more than the projectors. 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From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Nov 29 11:13:30 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 11:13:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] new screen... In-Reply-To: <938890133.1893155.1291069805043.JavaMail.root@sz0018a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <938890133.1893155.1291069805043.JavaMail.root@sz0018a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: On Mon, 29 Nov 2010, raysot at comcast.net wrote: > > Gene, I've been following this project and what you've done is amazing. > > > I'm trying to figure out though, what the wood structure is that you > have filled with pink s tyrofoam . What does that do? Is the image > somehow projected/reflected onto the inner/outer surface? The screen is a front-projection surface. The projector shoots right over the top of the mirror on to the screen. You view a reflection of that screen in the mirror. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Nov 29 13:32:54 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 13:32:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Best use of a PDP-11/45 *EVER* In-Reply-To: References: <4CF2FB80.6080104@bitsavers.org> from "Al Kossow" at Nov 28, Message-ID: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-DpcvY4aBk ...but I'm biased. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From cyplesma at aol.com Mon Nov 29 19:37:48 2010 From: cyplesma at aol.com (cyplesma at aol.com) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 22:37:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Best use of a PDP-11/45 *EVER* In-Reply-To: References: <4CF2FB80.6080104@bitsavers.org> from "Al Kossow" at Nov 28, Message-ID: <8CD5E5717802D06-96C-6C00@webmail-d058.sysops.aol.com> ah yes, memories of fortran and basic 101 games. 16K(I'm just guessing I never did pay attention to how much they held) memory on a 8 inch floppy diskette, and what a floppy diskette those were. -----Original Message----- From: Gene Buckle To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Cc: simpits-tech Sent: Mon, Nov 29, 2010 7:54 pm Subject: [simpits-tech] Best use of a PDP-11/45 *EVER* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-DpcvY4aBk ...but I'm biased. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20101129/ab7eb278/attachment-0001.html From raysot at comcast.net Mon Nov 29 21:42:47 2010 From: raysot at comcast.net (Ray Sotkiewicz) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 21:42:47 -0800 Subject: [simpits-tech] Best use of a PDP-11/45 *EVER* In-Reply-To: References: <4CF2FB80.6080104@bitsavers.org> from "Al Kossow" at Nov 28, Message-ID: <4CF48ED7.7030503@comcast.net> That brings back some memories! I used to work with a PDP/1135 (Militarized version). It was so cutting edge that the 2 motherboards had a back-plane that was wire-wrapped. Processor speed was a blazing 1mhz! (Forgot what the memory footprint was... but I think back then it was only a toe-print) Memory card had it's own slot.. all wire-wrapped. -ray On 11/29/2010 1:32 PM, Gene Buckle wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-DpcvY4aBk > > ...but I'm biased. :) > > g. > > From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Tue Nov 30 02:24:01 2010 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 10:24:01 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Best use of a PDP-11/45 *EVER* In-Reply-To: <4CF48ED7.7030503@comcast.net> Message-ID: On Mon, 29 Nov 2010, Ray Sotkiewicz wrote: > That brings back some memories! I used to work with a PDP/1135 > (Militarized version). It was so cutting edge that the 2 motherboards > had a back-plane that was wire-wrapped. > > Processor speed was a blazing 1mhz! (Forgot what the memory footprint > was... but I think back then it was only a toe-print) Memory card had > it's own slot.. all wire-wrapped. I still have the mag-core and front panel from the PDP-8/i that I ran many moons ago. I loved that machine, although it was very limited! The DEC peak for me was the VAX. With a wall of manuals and so much to explore! -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Nov 30 03:49:52 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 03:49:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Best use of a PDP-11/45 *EVER* (fwd) Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 10:25:24 +0100 From: Geert Rolf To: lee_courtney at acm.org, geneb at deltasoft.com Cc: Jan Fjeld , warner at krelekamp.net, vidar.eggen at multitekst.no Subject: Re: VS: Best use of a PDP-11/45 *EVER* Lee, Gene, I'm not in this mailing list. Feel free to post the link (below) to the story about the PDP-11s in the DC-10 Simulator. I'm sure real DECcies can understand the slides... ;-) http://www.xs4all.nl/~geerol/FLG-talk-75dpi.pdf Any questions -- be my guest! Regards Geert Rolf http://www.bejaardecomputers.nl/ From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Tue Nov 30 10:01:20 2010 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 18:01:20 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Best use of a PDP-11/45 *EVER* (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 30 Nov 2010, Gene Buckle wrote: wow! Those pics brought back a lot of good memories! The blue DecTape containers - I still have some of those in my workshop. I keep nuts'n'bolts'n'stuff in them :) The idea of using a 'scope to fault find on a computer these days would never cross my mind! > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 10:25:24 +0100 > From: Geert Rolf > To: lee_courtney at acm.org, geneb at deltasoft.com > Cc: Jan Fjeld , warner at krelekamp.net, > vidar.eggen at multitekst.no > Subject: Re: VS: Best use of a PDP-11/45 *EVER* > > Lee, Gene, > > I'm not in this mailing list. > Feel free to post the link (below) to the story about the PDP-11s in the DC-10 > Simulator. > I'm sure real DECcies can understand the slides... ;-) > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~geerol/FLG-talk-75dpi.pdf > > Any questions -- be my guest! > > Regards > Geert Rolf > http://www.bejaardecomputers.nl/ > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------