From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Mar 5 07:22:30 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 07:22:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Ray! Message-ID: Gimme a ring man - I need to get this shell moved out of here. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! From allendc at qwest.net Fri Mar 5 08:13:09 2010 From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 09:13:09 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] Ray! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20100305161315.BF1E922DE73@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> At 07:22 AM 3/5/2010 -0800, you wrote: >Gimme a ring man - Sounds like a female who needs to get married????? David www.737FlightSim.com From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Mar 5 08:18:55 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 08:18:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Ray! In-Reply-To: <20100305161315.BF1E922DE73@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> References: <20100305161315.BF1E922DE73@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 5 Mar 2010, David C. Allen wrote: > At 07:22 AM 3/5/2010 -0800, you wrote: >> Gimme a ring man - > > Sounds like a female who needs to get married????? > Bad Dave! No donut! /me whacks Dave on the nose with a rolled up newspaper. g. :) -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! From allendc at qwest.net Fri Mar 5 09:06:55 2010 From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 10:06:55 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] Ray! In-Reply-To: References: <20100305161315.BF1E922DE73@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: <20100305170704.75E1562795B@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net> At 08:18 AM 3/5/2010 -0800, you wrote: >On Fri, 5 Mar 2010, David C. Allen wrote: > > > At 07:22 AM 3/5/2010 -0800, you wrote: > >> Gimme a ring man - > > > > Sounds like a female who needs to get married????? > > >Bad Dave! No donut! > >/me whacks Dave on the nose with a rolled up newspaper. That's a step up from the fish :-) David www.737FlightSim.com From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Mar 5 09:12:00 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 09:12:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Ray! In-Reply-To: <20100305170704.75E1562795B@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net> References: <20100305161315.BF1E922DE73@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> <20100305170704.75E1562795B@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 5 Mar 2010, David C. Allen wrote: > At 08:18 AM 3/5/2010 -0800, you wrote: >> On Fri, 5 Mar 2010, David C. Allen wrote: >> >>> At 07:22 AM 3/5/2010 -0800, you wrote: >>>> Gimme a ring man - >>> >>> Sounds like a female who needs to get married????? >>> >> Bad Dave! No donut! >> >> /me whacks Dave on the nose with a rolled up newspaper. > > That's a step up from the fish :-) > Yep. :) I'm in the process of building an "A" frame cart for sheet goods and I have a prototype cockpit framework sitting where the cart will eventually live in the main shop. A friend of Ray wants it, but he hasn't been able to come down and get it yet. I'm hoping he'll see this and be able to come get it tomorrow. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! From raysot at comcast.net Fri Mar 5 10:06:19 2010 From: raysot at comcast.net (raysot at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 18:06:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [simpits-tech] Ray! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1003956667.567891267812379767.JavaMail.root@sz0018a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> ??zw?jf??G???{_{ zG?v??t????.??!j??n?]????n???J?????????^? -jw??*?~?????v+'?h?x?[a???{(??^???????j????i??n?+r????????h????w????y?_???*.?????z+p????h????????a?y"????b??^????&y?0???????*.??v????jS???xZ??g?x??W?zw?u?mj???&N????Z?????)??n?W^?????"??????????+l??z{E?'Z???rv?]=?m4??OO4?D? ??u??r'?q+???-E?"????????:qk???m5?6?????W???-x t?_3??m5?O4?*.??-x???.Lj???@??'BY^? ???-?????????M References: <1003956667.567891267812379767.JavaMail.root@sz0018a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 5 Mar 2010, raysot at comcast.net wrote: > Hey Gene, > > > I am booked the next few weekends and I'm not sure what my buddy's > schedule is (Something about he's got a new girlfriend and is now doing > all those 'New couple' things...) > > > If you have an opportunity to unload it to someone else, feel free. If > you still have it when Tim gets around to thinking about it, then we'll > come down and take it off your hands. > Well crap. :) I'll see if I can stuff it in a corner somewhere. I don't want to put it outside - osb will just come apart. :( g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Fri Mar 5 10:09:53 2010 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 18:09:53 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Ray! In-Reply-To: <1003956667.567891267812379767.JavaMail.root@sz0018a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 raysot at comcast.net wrote: > Hey Gene, > > I am booked the next few weekends and I'm not sure what my buddy's schedule is (Something about he's got a new girlfriend and is now doing all those 'New couple' things...) > > If you have an opportunity to unload it to someone else, feel free. If you still have it when Tim gets around to thinking about it, then we'll come down and take it off your hands. Barbecue at gene's this Sunday, 2pm, bring beer ! -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From allendc at qwest.net Fri Mar 5 10:21:11 2010 From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 11:21:11 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] Ray! In-Reply-To: References: <1003956667.567891267812379767.JavaMail.root@sz0018a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <20100305182316.5BFA253BCF8@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net> At 06:09 PM 3/5/2010 +0000, you wrote: >On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 raysot at comcast.net wrote: > > > Hey Gene, > > > > I am booked the next few weekends and I'm not sure what my > buddy's schedule is (Something about he's got a new girlfriend and > is now doing all those 'New couple' things...) > > > > If you have an opportunity to unload it to someone else, feel > free. If you still have it when Tim gets around to thinking about > it, then we'll come down and take it off your hands. > > >Barbecue at gene's this Sunday, 2pm, bring beer ! Why start so late Sunday @ 11am sounds better, and I am sure there will still be beer left in the Keg from Saturday night! David www.737FlightSim.com From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Fri Mar 5 11:11:29 2010 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 19:11:29 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Ray! In-Reply-To: <20100305182316.5BFA253BCF8@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 5 Mar 2010, David C. Allen wrote: > I am sure there > will still be beer left in the Keg from Saturday night! Wow! now there's an optimist ! -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jimk at sisna.com Mon Mar 8 18:34:39 2010 From: jimk at sisna.com (Jim) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 19:34:39 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] F-15 Skin Message-ID: <000b01cabf31$12f85dd0$38e91970$@com> Gene, This question is probably something you can answer. I have an F-16 fuselage that like your 15 is in my garage and in need of restoration. Mine needs some serious body work. Do you happen to know the aluminum alloy that a 15 is made of? It's probably the same as a 16. I figure before I start working on the fuselage I should know what alloy it is made out of. Thanks jim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20100308/26bd35fd/attachment-0001.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Mar 8 18:43:39 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 18:43:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] F-15 Skin In-Reply-To: <000b01cabf31$12f85dd0$38e91970$@com> References: <000b01cabf31$12f85dd0$38e91970$@com> Message-ID: On Mon, 8 Mar 2010, Jim wrote: > Gene, > This question is probably something you can answer. I have an F-16 fuselage > that like your 15 is in my garage and in need of restoration. > Mine needs some serious body work. Do you happen to know the aluminum alloy > that a 15 is made of? It's probably the same as a 16. > I figure before I start working on the fuselage I should know what alloy it > is made out of. I would recommend something easy to work with like 6061-T6. How thick is the skin you are planning on replacing? g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Thu Mar 18 14:32:17 2010 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:32:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Collins ADI Message-ID: <304697.26300.qm@web111501.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Steve Cannaby and I have been playing with a Collins ADI for a 737-200 project. Video of the first test here, http://www.youtube.com/my_videos_edit Justin Messenger Flight Simulators and Aircraft Instruments www.nu-tekinc.com ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20100318/87c7a398/attachment.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Mar 18 18:40:07 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 18:40:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] ADI test correct link In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 18 Mar 2010, Roy Coates wrote: > On Thu, 18 Mar 2010, Justin Messenger wrote: > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ20C7WhCao >> > > Nice one Justin :) > Agreed. Now spill the beans. How'd ya do it? :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Thu Mar 18 20:05:55 2010 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 20:05:55 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] ADI test correct link In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <48c.4ba2ea13@www.simpits.org> Simkits multi controller, servos, 400hz sychro senders, signal amplifiers, twisting arms for schematics, and a lot of time invested by Steve Cannaby. -- Phantoms Phorever!! From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Mar 18 20:47:18 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 20:47:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] ADI test correct link In-Reply-To: <48c.4ba2ea13@www.simpits.org> References: <48c.4ba2ea13@www.simpits.org> Message-ID: On Thu, 18 Mar 2010, Justin Messenger wrote: > > > Simkits multi controller, servos, 400hz sychro senders, signal > amplifiers, twisting arms for schematics, and a lot of time invested by > Steve Cannaby. Cool. I showed him the DTS project in Building Recreational Flight Simulators. Hopefully he'll build a few so you guys can dump the Simkits stuff. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Fri Mar 19 07:16:34 2010 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 07:16:34 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] ADI test correct link In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <48e.4ba38742@www.simpits.org> Gene, Steve says, since its so easy to do your way he wants you to put up and show us a video of yours working! :p We have about two full days on the first Collins ADI. So that means you have have until Monday to do the same :) Nice thing about SimKits is the included software! What a breeze for calibrating! But it only runs a limited amount type of instruments, there is always a downside :( The standby instruments in the 2nd video are not electric and dont use synchros so I had to gut them and JB weld servos directly inside them. Multicontroller is really great for that considering it handles so many servos from one card. -- Phantoms Phorever!! From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Mar 19 07:33:06 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 07:33:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] ADI test correct link In-Reply-To: <48e.4ba38742@www.simpits.org> References: <48e.4ba38742@www.simpits.org> Message-ID: On Fri, 19 Mar 2010, Justin Messenger wrote: > > > Gene, Steve says, since its so easy to do your way he wants you to put > up and show us a video of yours working! :p We have about two full days > on the first Collins ADI. So that means you have have until Monday to do > the same :) > Hehe. It's on the project stack. There's two projectors, a projector support pillar, 3 screens, generic multi-channel HV output boards, a Grob 115 cockpit and a P-40 Warhawk-ish cockpit ahead of it. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! From jimk at sisna.com Sat Mar 20 08:38:56 2010 From: jimk at sisna.com (Jim) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 09:38:56 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] F-15 Skin In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000f01cac843$74f04d70$5ed0e850$@com> Gene, Yes I will use 1/8" 6061 for all the exterior skin repair to my F16 fuselage. What I was wondering is if you know what the original skin of an F15 or F16 is? Its an aluminum alloy, but I'm not sure which one. Also, do you need any F15 parts of any kind? Jim >>>>>>>>>>>Message: 1 Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 18:43:39 -0800 (PST) From: Gene Buckle Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] F-15 Skin On Mon, 8 Mar 2010, Jim wrote: > Gene, > This question is probably something you can answer. I have an F-16 fuselage > that like your 15 is in my garage and in need of restoration. > Mine needs some serious body work. Do you happen to know the aluminum alloy > that a 15 is made of? It's probably the same as a 16. > I figure before I start working on the fuselage I should know what alloy it > is made out of. I would recommend something easy to work with like 6061-T6. How thick is the skin you are planning on replacing? g. From breed2 at rochester.rr.com Sat Mar 20 20:29:26 2010 From: breed2 at rochester.rr.com (Bob Reed) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 23:29:26 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] F-15 Skin In-Reply-To: <000f01cac843$74f04d70$5ed0e850$@com> References: <000f01cac843$74f04d70$5ed0e850$@com> Message-ID: <001101cac8a6$b59270c0$20b75240$@rr.com> Wow.. Now that is like asking the Fox if he really wants' the chicken!! LOL!!! -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Jim Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 11:39 AM To: simpits-tech at simpits.org Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] F-15 Skin Gene, Yes I will use 1/8" 6061 for all the exterior skin repair to my F16 fuselage. What I was wondering is if you know what the original skin of an F15 or F16 is? Its an aluminum alloy, but I'm not sure which one. Also, do you need any F15 parts of any kind? Jim >>>>>>>>>>>Message: 1 Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 18:43:39 -0800 (PST) From: Gene Buckle Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] F-15 Skin On Mon, 8 Mar 2010, Jim wrote: > Gene, > This question is probably something you can answer. I have an F-16 fuselage > that like your 15 is in my garage and in need of restoration. > Mine needs some serious body work. Do you happen to know the aluminum alloy > that a 15 is made of? It's probably the same as a 16. > I figure before I start working on the fuselage I should know what alloy it > is made out of. I would recommend something easy to work with like 6061-T6. How thick is the skin you are planning on replacing? g. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From geneb at deltasoft.com Sat Mar 20 21:17:05 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 21:17:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] F-15 Skin In-Reply-To: <000f01cac843$74f04d70$5ed0e850$@com> References: <000f01cac843$74f04d70$5ed0e850$@com> Message-ID: On Sat, 20 Mar 2010, Jim wrote: > Gene, > Yes I will use 1/8" 6061 for all the exterior skin repair to my F16 > fuselage. What I was wondering is if you know what the original skin of an > F15 or F16 is? > Its an aluminum alloy, but I'm not sure which one. > It is an alloy, but I don't know what kind. It's VERY hard and will snap, not bend. > Also, do you need any F15 parts of any kind? What have you got? :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! From geneb at deltasoft.com Sat Mar 20 21:28:39 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 21:28:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] F-15 Skin In-Reply-To: <001101cac8a6$b59270c0$20b75240$@rr.com> References: <000f01cac843$74f04d70$5ed0e850$@com> <001101cac8a6$b59270c0$20b75240$@rr.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 20 Mar 2010, Bob Reed wrote: > Wow.. Now that is like asking the Fox if he really wants' the chicken!! > LOL!!! > *looks up, whistles innocently* > > Also, do you need any F15 parts of any kind? > Jim > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 18:43:39 -0800 (PST) > From: Gene Buckle > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] F-15 Skin > On Mon, 8 Mar 2010, Jim wrote: >> Gene, >> This question is probably something you can answer. I have an F-16 > fuselage >> that like your 15 is in my garage and in need of restoration. >> Mine needs some serious body work. Do you happen to know the aluminum > alloy >> that a 15 is made of? It's probably the same as a 16. >> I figure before I start working on the fuselage I should know what alloy > it >> is made out of. > I would recommend something easy to work with like 6061-T6. How thick is > the skin you are planning on replacing? > g. > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. > Thanks! > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Tue Mar 23 10:21:01 2010 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 10:21:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX computer recomendations? Message-ID: <909634.95128.qm@web111512.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> we purchase a new ailenware PC last fall, and to my shock, it doesnt run FSX very well. Do you guys have a suggestion on a PC that runs FSX really well? Im I going to?have to?pay for a ?2K?PC to do that? Justin Messenger Flight Simulators and Aircraft Instruments www.nu-tekinc.com ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20100323/34d24ba2/attachment.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Mar 23 10:29:41 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 10:29:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX computer recomendations? In-Reply-To: <909634.95128.qm@web111512.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <909634.95128.qm@web111512.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 23 Mar 2010, Justin Messenger wrote: > we purchase a new ailenware PC last fall, and to my shock, it doesnt run > FSX very well. Do you guys have a suggestion on a PC that runs FSX > really well? Im I going to?have to?pay for a ?2K?PC to do that? Justin the machine we recently built for the sim came in around $1000 for the motherboard, CPU & 6GB of 2Ghz memory. The CPU is an Intel i7 Quad core, HyperThreaded (appears to be an 8 core cpu to the host OS) @ 2.8Ghz. The video card is one I already had (GTX260). The machine runs FSX with the Orbx Pacific NW scenery VERY nicely. The test resolution was 1024x768. The machine runs Win7 Ultimate. Do NOT scrimp on the power supply. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! From chris at renovo.co.nz Tue Mar 23 15:54:43 2010 From: chris at renovo.co.nz (Chris Brace) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:54:43 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] Finally its done! Message-ID: <002201cacadb$d58badb0$80a30910$@co.nz> Guys, quick update on my C172 project. Finally its done! First of all many thanks to many of you, for those little gems and inspirations that kept Greg and I plugging away at what seemed impossible solutions. This has been one of those long term projects that suffers from the usual stop/start/motivation/money/life problems but we got there in the end. And the results speak for themselves. Check out the video of the sim in action here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W2omkBwirU A few things about it. Build time has been around 7 years! Been through several iterations of software and hardware but settled now on xplane. Simulator is Xplane 9.4. Instruments are early simkits with a CCU. All interfacing is via an XPlane plugin we wrote ourselves that does all the hard work and is modeled very similarly to FSX's SimConnect in principle. Primary flight controls are custom made with the electronics being a plasma. Rudder pedals are from aircraft spruce and the mechanisms (with toe breaks) is inhouse designed and built. The complete avionics stack is custom design and built Most the parts are laser cut- yes we even bought a laser cutter of our own to do the job. Displays and I/O are Phidgets. Each unit is completely separate much like the real deal. They all bolt into a chassis that can be removed as a single unit and bench run if needed from a single USB connection and power. Circuit breakers are also custom made. Again each CB is a separate unit. All are driven by a Phidget 16/16 board. Again each is made from laser cut acrylic and various parts. The cessna shell is custom made. I measured up the real thing, drew my own set of plans and then set about building it. Mostly its 18mm MDF but all jointed with aluminium L sections and M6 bolts. Projection is the interesting part. Three ultra short throw projectors (1024x768 res each). Each screen is about 1500mm wide (about 60 inches) and is rear projected with a single mirror that folds the image back onto the screen. Projection distance is 950mm (2 x 470mm) or about 38 inches in total length. Everything is adjustable, screen height, screen angle, projector angles and position, folding mirror angle etc. This was done so that we could roll out one sim shell and if needed roll in another with different requirements. Presently we get about 160 degrees wrap around. The images are simply edge butted together there is no hardware device doing any blending - just plenty of adjustments and time. Voice comms are a real aircraft 4 place intercom and headsets - just a cheap unit imported from China. Audio is fed into it from the Sim PC as needed via an source input on the unit. A single fairly grunty PC runs XPlane,the visuals and primary flight controls. The PC has 4Gb RAM, quadcore CPU, and three high end graphics cards. Each card drives a single projector. OS is Windows Server 2008. Another PC drives all the instruments and avioncs and comms to Xplane. Third PC drives the dual screen instructor station. I have a bunch of pictures of the build (over many years) on my personal website (www.chrisb.co.nz) under "The photo gallery" section then LS172 simulator project. Enjoy. ChrisB __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4969 (20100323) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 10046 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20100324/0792ea59/attachment-0001.bin From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Tue Mar 23 16:20:06 2010 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 23:20:06 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Finally its done! In-Reply-To: <002201cacadb$d58badb0$80a30910$@co.nz> Message-ID: On Wed, 24 Mar 2010, Chris Brace wrote: That's pretty darned impressive Chris! You've been working on that beast for as long as I can remember. Superb stuff - love those projectors... what are they? Pics of the mirror setup please? Very very cool. > Guys, quick update on my C172 project. Finally its done! > > First of all many thanks to many of you, for those little gems and > inspirations that kept Greg and I plugging away at what seemed impossible > solutions. This has been one of those long term projects that suffers from > the usual stop/start/motivation/money/life problems but we got there in the > end. And the results speak for themselves. > > Check out the video of the sim in action here > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W2omkBwirU > > A few things about it. Build time has been around 7 years! Been through > several iterations of software and hardware but settled now on xplane. > > Simulator is Xplane 9.4. Instruments are early simkits with a CCU. All > interfacing is via an XPlane plugin we wrote ourselves that does all the > hard work and is modeled very similarly to FSX's SimConnect in principle. > > Primary flight controls are custom made with the electronics being a plasma. > Rudder pedals are from aircraft spruce and the mechanisms (with toe breaks) > is inhouse designed and built. > > The complete avionics stack is custom design and built Most the parts are > laser > cut- yes we even bought a laser cutter of our own to do the job. Displays > and I/O are Phidgets. Each unit is completely separate much like the real > deal. They all bolt into a chassis that can be removed as a single unit and > bench run if needed from a single USB connection and power. > > Circuit breakers are also custom made. Again each CB is a separate unit. All > are driven by a Phidget 16/16 board. Again each is made from laser cut > acrylic and various parts. > > The cessna shell is custom made. I measured up the real thing, drew my own > set of plans and then set about building it. Mostly its 18mm MDF but all > jointed with aluminium L sections and M6 bolts. > > Projection is the interesting part. Three ultra short throw projectors > (1024x768 res each). Each screen is about 1500mm wide (about 60 inches) and > is rear projected with a single mirror that folds the image back onto the > screen. > Projection distance is 950mm (2 x 470mm) or about 38 inches in total length. > Everything is adjustable, screen height, screen angle, projector angles and > position, folding mirror angle etc. This was done so that we could roll out > one sim shell and if needed roll in another with different requirements. > Presently we get about 160 degrees wrap around. The images are simply edge > butted together there is no hardware device doing any blending - just plenty > of adjustments and time. > > Voice comms are a real aircraft 4 place intercom and headsets - just a cheap > unit imported from China. Audio is fed into it from the Sim PC as needed via > an source input on the unit. > > A single fairly grunty PC runs XPlane,the visuals and primary flight > controls. > The PC has 4Gb RAM, quadcore CPU, and three high end graphics cards. Each > card drives a single projector. OS is Windows Server 2008. Another PC drives > all the instruments and avioncs and comms to Xplane. Third PC drives the > dual screen instructor station. > > I have a bunch of pictures of the build (over many years) on my personal > website (www.chrisb.co.nz) under "The photo gallery" section then LS172 > simulator project. > > Enjoy. > ChrisB > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 4969 (20100323) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From chris at renovo.co.nz Tue Mar 23 16:51:20 2010 From: chris at renovo.co.nz (Chris Brace) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:51:20 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] Finally its done! In-Reply-To: References: <002201cacadb$d58badb0$80a30910$@co.nz> Message-ID: <000301cacae3$bebf5e80$3c3e1b80$@co.nz> Thanks Roy, Good things take time! The projectors are Sanyo PLC-XL45's I did a deal with a local supplier and bought three at once. One problem with the rear projection and mirrors is hot spotting, it's clearly evident in the video but from the pilots view its nowhere near as obvious. I'll take some more video of the projection setup in a few days and post again. It took a hell of a long time, many drawings, prototypes and head scratching to get them right. We designed everything in the sim to emulate and function as close as possible to the real aircraft. From cold and dark to fully running it really does work the same throughout (where possible). This often became our stumbling block, as there were many many times we were trying to debug things, getting frustrated to hell because something wouldn't work as it should, when suddenly it would dawn on us both that another system needed to be on (or off) and presto it all worked! Pure satisfaction and a wee smerk later........ Cheers Chris. -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Roy Coates Sent: Wednesday, 24 March 2010 12:20 To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Finally its done! On Wed, 24 Mar 2010, Chris Brace wrote: That's pretty darned impressive Chris! You've been working on that beast for as long as I can remember. Superb stuff - love those projectors... what are they? Pics of the mirror setup please? Very very cool. > Guys, quick update on my C172 project. Finally its done! > > First of all many thanks to many of you, for those little gems and > inspirations that kept Greg and I plugging away at what seemed impossible > solutions. This has been one of those long term projects that suffers from > the usual stop/start/motivation/money/life problems but we got there in the > end. And the results speak for themselves. > > Check out the video of the sim in action here > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W2omkBwirU > > A few things about it. Build time has been around 7 years! Been through > several iterations of software and hardware but settled now on xplane. > > Simulator is Xplane 9.4. Instruments are early simkits with a CCU. All > interfacing is via an XPlane plugin we wrote ourselves that does all the > hard work and is modeled very similarly to FSX's SimConnect in principle. > > Primary flight controls are custom made with the electronics being a plasma. > Rudder pedals are from aircraft spruce and the mechanisms (with toe breaks) > is inhouse designed and built. > > The complete avionics stack is custom design and built Most the parts are > laser > cut- yes we even bought a laser cutter of our own to do the job. Displays > and I/O are Phidgets. Each unit is completely separate much like the real > deal. They all bolt into a chassis that can be removed as a single unit and > bench run if needed from a single USB connection and power. > > Circuit breakers are also custom made. Again each CB is a separate unit. All > are driven by a Phidget 16/16 board. Again each is made from laser cut > acrylic and various parts. > > The cessna shell is custom made. I measured up the real thing, drew my own > set of plans and then set about building it. Mostly its 18mm MDF but all > jointed with aluminium L sections and M6 bolts. > > Projection is the interesting part. Three ultra short throw projectors > (1024x768 res each). Each screen is about 1500mm wide (about 60 inches) and > is rear projected with a single mirror that folds the image back onto the > screen. > Projection distance is 950mm (2 x 470mm) or about 38 inches in total length. > Everything is adjustable, screen height, screen angle, projector angles and > position, folding mirror angle etc. This was done so that we could roll out > one sim shell and if needed roll in another with different requirements. > Presently we get about 160 degrees wrap around. The images are simply edge > butted together there is no hardware device doing any blending - just plenty > of adjustments and time. > > Voice comms are a real aircraft 4 place intercom and headsets - just a cheap > unit imported from China. Audio is fed into it from the Sim PC as needed via > an source input on the unit. > > A single fairly grunty PC runs XPlane,the visuals and primary flight > controls. > The PC has 4Gb RAM, quadcore CPU, and three high end graphics cards. Each > card drives a single projector. OS is Windows Server 2008. Another PC drives > all the instruments and avioncs and comms to Xplane. Third PC drives the > dual screen instructor station. > > I have a bunch of pictures of the build (over many years) on my personal > website (www.chrisb.co.nz) under "The photo gallery" section then LS172 > simulator project. > > Enjoy. > ChrisB > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 4969 (20100323) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > -- Roy Coates. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4969 (20100323) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4969 (20100323) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4969 (20100323) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Tue Mar 23 16:53:17 2010 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 23:53:17 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Finally its done! In-Reply-To: <000301cacae3$bebf5e80$3c3e1b80$@co.nz> Message-ID: On Wed, 24 Mar 2010, Chris Brace wrote: > Thanks Roy, > Good things take time! If it was easy - everyone would be doing it, and - it would be no fun ! The big question now is, will you be happy to actually fly the thing, or are you already planning the next simpit? ;-) -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From brian at sikkema.us Tue Mar 23 17:45:30 2010 From: brian at sikkema.us (Brian Sikkema) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 09:45:30 +0900 Subject: [simpits-tech] Finally its done! In-Reply-To: <002201cacadb$d58badb0$80a30910$@co.nz> References: <002201cacadb$d58badb0$80a30910$@co.nz> Message-ID: <4BA960AA.5080009@sikkema.us> Wow!!! Normally I view any claims of "finishing" a project around here with great suspicion and animosity, but that looks truly gorgeous!! Well done. That being said, I NEED more details about that projection system!!! It would be absolutely perfect for my dream. Er, I mean sim. No, wait, dream seems more appropriate.... Brian Chris Brace wrote: > Guys, quick update on my C172 project. Finally its done! > From rd at ns.sympatico.ca Tue Mar 23 18:00:26 2010 From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 21:00:26 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] Finally its done! References: <002201cacadb$d58badb0$80a30910$@co.nz> Message-ID: <03d101cacaed$645ff2b0$0a02a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> Chris, Exactly, where do you live? I'd like to come visit. LOL 10 stars. X-Plane project of the year! Fabulous. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Brace" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 6:54 PM Subject: [simpits-tech] Finally its done! > Guys, quick update on my C172 project. Finally its done! > > First of all many thanks to many of you, for those little gems and > inspirations that kept Greg and I plugging away at what seemed impossible > solutions. This has been one of those long term projects that suffers from > the usual stop/start/motivation/money/life problems but we got there in > the > end. And the results speak for themselves. > > Check out the video of the sim in action here > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W2omkBwirU > > A few things about it. Build time has been around 7 years! Been through > several iterations of software and hardware but settled now on xplane. > > Simulator is Xplane 9.4. Instruments are early simkits with a CCU. All > interfacing is via an XPlane plugin we wrote ourselves that does all the > hard work and is modeled very similarly to FSX's SimConnect in principle. > > Primary flight controls are custom made with the electronics being a > plasma. > Rudder pedals are from aircraft spruce and the mechanisms (with toe > breaks) > is inhouse designed and built. > > The complete avionics stack is custom design and built Most the parts are > laser > cut- yes we even bought a laser cutter of our own to do the job. Displays > and I/O are Phidgets. Each unit is completely separate much like the real > deal. They all bolt into a chassis that can be removed as a single unit > and > bench run if needed from a single USB connection and power. > > Circuit breakers are also custom made. Again each CB is a separate unit. > All > are driven by a Phidget 16/16 board. Again each is made from laser cut > acrylic and various parts. > > The cessna shell is custom made. I measured up the real thing, drew my own > set of plans and then set about building it. Mostly its 18mm MDF but all > jointed with aluminium L sections and M6 bolts. > > Projection is the interesting part. Three ultra short throw projectors > (1024x768 res each). Each screen is about 1500mm wide (about 60 inches) > and > is rear projected with a single mirror that folds the image back onto the > screen. > Projection distance is 950mm (2 x 470mm) or about 38 inches in total > length. > Everything is adjustable, screen height, screen angle, projector angles > and > position, folding mirror angle etc. This was done so that we could roll > out > one sim shell and if needed roll in another with different requirements. > Presently we get about 160 degrees wrap around. The images are simply edge > butted together there is no hardware device doing any blending - just > plenty > of adjustments and time. > > Voice comms are a real aircraft 4 place intercom and headsets - just a > cheap > unit imported from China. Audio is fed into it from the Sim PC as needed > via > an source input on the unit. > > A single fairly grunty PC runs XPlane,the visuals and primary flight > controls. > The PC has 4Gb RAM, quadcore CPU, and three high end graphics cards. Each > card drives a single projector. OS is Windows Server 2008. Another PC > drives > all the instruments and avioncs and comms to Xplane. Third PC drives the > dual screen instructor station. > > I have a bunch of pictures of the build (over many years) on my personal > website (www.chrisb.co.nz) under "The photo gallery" section then LS172 > simulator project. > > Enjoy. > ChrisB > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature > database 4969 (20100323) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! From catalina299 at gmail.com Tue Mar 23 18:23:42 2010 From: catalina299 at gmail.com (William Segal) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 18:23:42 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] Finally its done! In-Reply-To: <4BA960AA.5080009@sikkema.us> References: <002201cacadb$d58badb0$80a30910$@co.nz> <4BA960AA.5080009@sikkema.us> Message-ID: <3a0a6c681003231823j5d813bd5ubc4527b3cb8ad79a@mail.gmail.com> Seven Years Rick we won't be here here that long and throw away the wife,kids,checkbook ,camera' Bill On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Brian Sikkema wrote: > Wow!!! Normally I view any claims of "finishing" a project around here > with great suspicion and animosity, but that looks truly gorgeous!! Well > done. > > That being said, I NEED more details about that projection system!!! It > would be absolutely perfect for my dream. Er, I mean sim. No, wait, > dream seems more appropriate.... > > Brian > > Chris Brace wrote: >> Guys, quick update on my C172 project. Finally its done! >> > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. ?Thanks! > From rd at ns.sympatico.ca Tue Mar 23 18:32:13 2010 From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 21:32:13 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] Finally its done! References: <002201cacadb$d58badb0$80a30910$@co.nz><4BA960AA.5080009@sikkema.us> <3a0a6c681003231823j5d813bd5ubc4527b3cb8ad79a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000901cacaf1$d53a5760$0a02a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> About right Billy. But I've had my fun. ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Segal" To: ; "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Finally its done! Seven Years Rick we won't be here here that long and throw away the wife,kids,checkbook ,camera' Bill On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Brian Sikkema wrote: > Wow!!! Normally I view any claims of "finishing" a project around here > with great suspicion and animosity, but that looks truly gorgeous!! Well > done. > > That being said, I NEED more details about that projection system!!! It > would be absolutely perfect for my dream. Er, I mean sim. No, wait, > dream seems more appropriate.... > > Brian > > Chris Brace wrote: >> Guys, quick update on my C172 project. Finally its done! >> > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Mar 23 19:53:50 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 19:53:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Finally its done! In-Reply-To: <002201cacadb$d58badb0$80a30910$@co.nz> References: <002201cacadb$d58badb0$80a30910$@co.nz> Message-ID: On Wed, 24 Mar 2010, Chris Brace wrote: > Guys, quick update on my C172 project. Finally its done! > Looks fantastic Chris, great job! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! From chris at renovo.co.nz Tue Mar 23 20:02:28 2010 From: chris at renovo.co.nz (Chris Brace) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:02:28 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] Finally its done! In-Reply-To: References: <000301cacae3$bebf5e80$3c3e1b80$@co.nz> Message-ID: <000b01cacafe$72128240$563786c0$@co.nz> To tell the truth it's been in this state for a few months now and flying it becomes less and less attractive. Probably because its done and there is nothing left to do. And so in keeping with the simpit spirit.....it's time to upgrade!!! Anyone seen my wife, she was around here somewhere....... ~C -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Roy Coates Sent: Wednesday, 24 March 2010 12:53 To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Finally its done! On Wed, 24 Mar 2010, Chris Brace wrote: > Thanks Roy, > Good things take time! If it was easy - everyone would be doing it, and - it would be no fun ! The big question now is, will you be happy to actually fly the thing, or are you already planning the next simpit? ;-) -- Roy Coates. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4969 (20100323) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4969 (20100323) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4969 (20100323) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From chris at renovo.co.nz Tue Mar 23 20:04:11 2010 From: chris at renovo.co.nz (Chris Brace) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:04:11 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] Finally its done! In-Reply-To: <4BA960AA.5080009@sikkema.us> References: <002201cacadb$d58badb0$80a30910$@co.nz> <4BA960AA.5080009@sikkema.us> Message-ID: <000c01cacafe$af6c3a50$0e44aef0$@co.nz> Stay tuned Brian, i'll recor a video specifically on the projection system for you guys shortly (a few days) -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Brian Sikkema Sent: Wednesday, 24 March 2010 13:45 To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Finally its done! Wow!!! Normally I view any claims of "finishing" a project around here with great suspicion and animosity, but that looks truly gorgeous!! Well done. That being said, I NEED more details about that projection system!!! It would be absolutely perfect for my dream. Er, I mean sim. No, wait, dream seems more appropriate.... Brian Chris Brace wrote: > Guys, quick update on my C172 project. Finally its done! > _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4969 (20100323) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4969 (20100323) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4969 (20100323) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From chris at renovo.co.nz Tue Mar 23 20:07:53 2010 From: chris at renovo.co.nz (Chris Brace) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:07:53 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] Finally its done! In-Reply-To: <03d101cacaed$645ff2b0$0a02a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> References: <002201cacadb$d58badb0$80a30910$@co.nz> <03d101cacaed$645ff2b0$0a02a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> Message-ID: <000d01cacaff$33b5bca0$9b2135e0$@co.nz> Hey Rick, Way down in little New Zealand, come on down anytime you like. As for Xplane, we found the development team quite good to deal with, in fact we actually found a few small issues with the plugin system that they fixed specifically at our request in the releases over time. There are of course a many things that are just plain beyond comprehension with it too.... But that is another story -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Rick Davis Sent: Wednesday, 24 March 2010 14:00 To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Finally its done! Chris, Exactly, where do you live? I'd like to come visit. LOL 10 stars. X-Plane project of the year! Fabulous. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Brace" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 6:54 PM Subject: [simpits-tech] Finally its done! > Guys, quick update on my C172 project. Finally its done! > > First of all many thanks to many of you, for those little gems and > inspirations that kept Greg and I plugging away at what seemed impossible > solutions. This has been one of those long term projects that suffers from > the usual stop/start/motivation/money/life problems but we got there in > the > end. And the results speak for themselves. > > Check out the video of the sim in action here > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W2omkBwirU > > A few things about it. Build time has been around 7 years! Been through > several iterations of software and hardware but settled now on xplane. > > Simulator is Xplane 9.4. Instruments are early simkits with a CCU. All > interfacing is via an XPlane plugin we wrote ourselves that does all the > hard work and is modeled very similarly to FSX's SimConnect in principle. > > Primary flight controls are custom made with the electronics being a > plasma. > Rudder pedals are from aircraft spruce and the mechanisms (with toe > breaks) > is inhouse designed and built. > > The complete avionics stack is custom design and built Most the parts are > laser > cut- yes we even bought a laser cutter of our own to do the job. Displays > and I/O are Phidgets. Each unit is completely separate much like the real > deal. They all bolt into a chassis that can be removed as a single unit > and > bench run if needed from a single USB connection and power. > > Circuit breakers are also custom made. Again each CB is a separate unit. > All > are driven by a Phidget 16/16 board. Again each is made from laser cut > acrylic and various parts. > > The cessna shell is custom made. I measured up the real thing, drew my own > set of plans and then set about building it. Mostly its 18mm MDF but all > jointed with aluminium L sections and M6 bolts. > > Projection is the interesting part. Three ultra short throw projectors > (1024x768 res each). Each screen is about 1500mm wide (about 60 inches) > and > is rear projected with a single mirror that folds the image back onto the > screen. > Projection distance is 950mm (2 x 470mm) or about 38 inches in total > length. > Everything is adjustable, screen height, screen angle, projector angles > and > position, folding mirror angle etc. This was done so that we could roll > out > one sim shell and if needed roll in another with different requirements. > Presently we get about 160 degrees wrap around. The images are simply edge > butted together there is no hardware device doing any blending - just > plenty > of adjustments and time. > > Voice comms are a real aircraft 4 place intercom and headsets - just a > cheap > unit imported from China. Audio is fed into it from the Sim PC as needed > via > an source input on the unit. > > A single fairly grunty PC runs XPlane,the visuals and primary flight > controls. > The PC has 4Gb RAM, quadcore CPU, and three high end graphics cards. Each > card drives a single projector. OS is Windows Server 2008. Another PC > drives > all the instruments and avioncs and comms to Xplane. Third PC drives the > dual screen instructor station. > > I have a bunch of pictures of the build (over many years) on my personal > website (www.chrisb.co.nz) under "The photo gallery" section then LS172 > simulator project. > > Enjoy. > ChrisB > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature > database 4969 (20100323) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4969 (20100323) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4969 (20100323) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4969 (20100323) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From echotech1452 at gmail.com Thu Mar 25 05:44:40 2010 From: echotech1452 at gmail.com (delor lauchang) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 08:44:40 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX computer recomendations? In-Reply-To: <909634.95128.qm@web111512.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <909634.95128.qm@web111512.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Justin, Iam running mine on AMD 64 Dual Core 2.4GHZ with 4Gb of RAM, i have a 1GB MSI NVIDIA dual DVI video card with TH2GO for my sceneries and DH2GO for my instruments, sceneries on all 3x22 inch LCD and instruments on 2x32 inch LCD monitors. all sliders ultra high, and at times iam running photo-real sceneries, PFS ground at 15-30, flying 30-60. Though some stutters while banking( any clue on that?). the box cost me $500.00, the TH2GO and DH2GO $400.00, MSI VIDEO CARD $65.00, monitors 3x22LCD $450.00, 2x32LCD $700.00 hope this Helps, Delor Louisville, KY USofA On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Justin Messenger wrote: > we purchase a new ailenware PC last fall, and to my shock, it doesnt run > FSX very well. Do you guys have a suggestion on a PC that runs FSX really > well? Im I going to have to pay for a 2K PC to do that? > > *Justin Messenger* > > *Flight Simulators and Aircraft Instruments* > > www.*nu*-*tek*inc.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20100325/c724972f/attachment.html From echotech1452 at gmail.com Fri Mar 26 05:55:35 2010 From: echotech1452 at gmail.com (delor lauchang) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 08:55:35 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX computer recomendations? In-Reply-To: References: <909634.95128.qm@web111512.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Gene, Thats an awesome box you got, did Windows7 helped in multiple windows task? Iam thinking of migrating into Win7 from WinXP Pro, but I need feedback from users before I spend another $300.00 for Win7. And your exactly right on power supply to be at least 800watts, because the newer 1gb video cards are power guzzlers, is your CPU self-cooled? Man your room must be very warm, mine is only an AMD dual core 64 and I already have an external fan to cool it. The TH2GO and DH2GO is a lot of help in saving FPS losses from multiple view windows. Best Regards, Delor Louisville, KY and Philippines On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Gene Buckle wrote: > On Tue, 23 Mar 2010, Justin Messenger wrote: > > we purchase a new ailenware PC last fall, and to my shock, it doesnt run >> FSX very well. Do you guys have a suggestion on a PC that runs FSX really >> well? Im I going to have to pay for a 2K PC to do that? >> > > Justin the machine we recently built for the sim came in around $1000 for > the motherboard, CPU & 6GB of 2Ghz memory. The CPU is an Intel i7 Quad > core, HyperThreaded (appears to be an 8 core cpu to the host OS) @ 2.8Ghz. > > The video card is one I already had (GTX260). > > The machine runs FSX with the Orbx Pacific NW scenery VERY nicely. The > test resolution was 1024x768. The machine runs Win7 Ultimate. > > Do NOT scrimp on the power supply. :) > > g. > > > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project > > ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment > A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. > http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20100326/9786c25e/attachment-0001.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Mar 26 07:44:17 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 07:44:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX computer recomendations? In-Reply-To: References: <909634.95128.qm@web111512.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 26 Mar 2010, delor lauchang wrote: > Hi Gene, > > Thats an awesome box you got, did Windows7 helped in multiple windows task? > Iam thinking of migrating into Win7 from WinXP Pro, but I need feedback from > users before I spend another $300.00 for Win7. > eh? > And your exactly right on power supply to be at least 800watts, because the > newer 1gb video cards are power guzzlers, is your CPU self-cooled? Man your > room must be very warm, mine is only an AMD dual core 64 and I already have > an external fan to cool it. The TH2GO and DH2GO is a lot of help in saving > FPS losses from multiple view windows. > The CPU has a *huge* heatsink on it: http://www.geneb.org/new_machine1.jpg g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! From brian at Sikkema.us Fri Mar 26 10:25:52 2010 From: brian at Sikkema.us (Brian Sikkema) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 02:25:52 +0900 Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX computer recomendations? In-Reply-To: References: <909634.95128.qm@web111512.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4BACEE20.9020706@Sikkema.us> Gene Buckle wrote: > The CPU has a *huge* heatsink on it: > > http://www.geneb.org/new_machine1.jpg > > g. > Jeebus!!! You ain't kidding. From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Mar 26 17:24:36 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 17:24:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX computer recomendations? In-Reply-To: <4BACEE20.9020706@Sikkema.us> References: <909634.95128.qm@web111512.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4BACEE20.9020706@Sikkema.us> Message-ID: On Sat, 27 Mar 2010, Brian Sikkema wrote: > Gene Buckle wrote: >> The CPU has a *huge* heatsink on it: >> >> http://www.geneb.org/new_machine1.jpg >> >> g. >> > Jeebus!!! You ain't kidding. My friend Dave and I split the cost of the machine (he wants to use the projectors to run Need for Speed:Shift). He spec'd it and bought the parts at Fry's. He said the look on my face when I saw the heatsink was priceless. :) The heatsink is so tall that I had to remove the fan that was mounted on the case side. It comes within about 1/2" of the inside surface of the side cover. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Fri Mar 26 17:48:26 2010 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 00:48:26 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX computer recomendations? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 26 Mar 2010, Gene Buckle wrote: > >> The CPU has a *huge* heatsink on it: > >> > >> http://www.geneb.org/new_machine1.jpg > >> > > Jeebus!!! You ain't kidding. > > My friend Dave and I split the cost of the machine (he wants to use the > projectors to run Need for Speed:Shift). He spec'd it and bought the > parts at Fry's. He said the look on my face when I saw the heatsink was > priceless. :) The heatsink is so tall that I had to remove the fan that > was mounted on the case side. It comes within about 1/2" of the inside > surface of the side cover. *sigh* typical Yank... "can you supersize that?" hehe... :) -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Mar 26 19:58:32 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 19:58:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX computer recomendations? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, 27 Mar 2010, Roy Coates wrote: > On Fri, 26 Mar 2010, Gene Buckle wrote: > >>>> The CPU has a *huge* heatsink on it: >>>> >>>> http://www.geneb.org/new_machine1.jpg >>>> >>> Jeebus!!! You ain't kidding. >> >> My friend Dave and I split the cost of the machine (he wants to use the >> projectors to run Need for Speed:Shift). He spec'd it and bought the >> parts at Fry's. He said the look on my face when I saw the heatsink was >> priceless. :) The heatsink is so tall that I had to remove the fan that >> was mounted on the case side. It comes within about 1/2" of the inside >> surface of the side cover. > > > *sigh* typical Yank... "can you supersize that?" > > :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!