From joab_ryan at yahoo.com Wed Jun 2 11:42:18 2010 From: joab_ryan at yahoo.com (joab ryan) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 11:42:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Remember DTS? Message-ID: <451129.14682.qm@web53206.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hey remember Paul Miller?from Desk Top Sims? I just spotted him online! http://www.f16rental.com Not a bad little business going. And with an E3 booth! nice ?Joab Ryan Mechanical CAD Designer, Network Administrator & Military Aircraft Sim Builder North Texas USA From geneb at deltasoft.com Wed Jun 2 12:18:53 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 12:18:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Remember DTS? In-Reply-To: <451129.14682.qm@web53206.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <451129.14682.qm@web53206.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 2 Jun 2010, joab ryan wrote: > Hey remember Paul Miller?from Desk Top Sims? I just spotted him online! > > http://www.f16rental.com > That's cool. It's good to see him back on his feet. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Jun 10 20:22:56 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 20:22:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] screen gone wild... Message-ID: http://www.simpits.org/geneb/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/six-segments-3.jpg More pics at http://geneb.simpits.org g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! From echotech1452 at gmail.com Fri Jun 11 04:16:58 2010 From: echotech1452 at gmail.com (delor lauchang) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 07:16:58 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] screen gone wild... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Awesome, this is the mother of all flight simulators. Cant wait to see it finished( do we ever get finished ?) or should I say start flying. the first individually handcrafted set-up by an individual. This should go the Guinness book of world records. On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:22 PM, Gene Buckle wrote: > > http://www.simpits.org/geneb/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/six-segments-3.jpg > > More pics at http://geneb.simpits.org > > g. > > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project > > ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment > A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. > http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20100611/d0b2b11e/attachment.html From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Fri Jun 11 04:16:54 2010 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 12:16:54 +0100 (BST) Subject: [simpits-tech] screen gone wild... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 10 Jun 2010, Gene Buckle wrote: > > http://www.simpits.org/geneb/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/six-segments-3.jpg > Once that is up and running, you'll never leave the workshop again :) -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Jun 11 06:20:59 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 06:20:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] screen gone wild... In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: On Fri, 11 Jun 2010, delor lauchang wrote: > Awesome, this is the mother of all flight simulators. Cant wait to see it > finished( do we ever get finished ?) or should I say start flying. the first > individually handcrafted set-up by an individual. This should go the > Guinness book of world records. > Under the heading, "Gene finally finished one!"? :) The screen is really too big. At some point I'm going to design a new one that will have a much tighter radius. That will require a more difficult projector layout, so I'm not going to mess with it right now. I'm going to get two more canvas drop cloths for interim screen material but it will eventually be one continuous sheet of Muslin in either white, or painted white. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Jun 11 06:21:45 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 06:21:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] screen gone wild... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, 11 Jun 2010, Roy Coates wrote: > On Thu, 10 Jun 2010, Gene Buckle wrote: > >> >> http://www.simpits.org/geneb/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/six-segments-3.jpg >> > > > Once that is up and running, you'll never leave the workshop again :) > I'll have to. No bathroom. :D g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Jun 11 06:37:58 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 06:37:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] DIY cockpit pics! Message-ID: Here are three pics of Jerry's DIY cockpit build: http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/gallery/jerry_060310-1.jpg http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/gallery/jerry_060310-2.jpg http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/gallery/jerry_060310-3.jpg He's done a great job on it! The carpet shown in the 2nd picture is from Home Depot and runs about .49c per square foot. Both of mine are going to get that treatment - it looks fantastic! This is the seat he's chosen to use: http://shop.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/evergreen-outdoors-low-back-boat-seat-gray.aspx?a=647996 At $26, you can't lose. I suspect he'll pipe in at some point and let us know how comfortable it is. Great job Jerry! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Fri Jun 11 06:25:07 2010 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 14:25:07 +0100 (BST) Subject: [simpits-tech] screen gone wild... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 11 Jun 2010, Gene Buckle wrote: > > Once that is up and running, you'll never leave the workshop again :) > > > I'll have to. No bathroom. :D This guy can build flight sims from scratch but forget to build a bathroom? Sheeeeesh. -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Jun 11 08:00:05 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 08:00:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] screen gone wild... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, 11 Jun 2010, Roy Coates wrote: > On Fri, 11 Jun 2010, Gene Buckle wrote: > >>> Once that is up and running, you'll never leave the workshop again :) >>> >> I'll have to. No bathroom. :D > > > This guy can build flight sims from scratch but forget to build a > bathroom? > It's worse, no running water! :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Fri Jun 11 07:32:51 2010 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:32:51 +0100 (BST) Subject: [simpits-tech] screen gone wild... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 11 Jun 2010, Gene Buckle wrote: > > This guy can build flight sims from scratch but forget to build a > > bathroom? > > > It's worse, no running water! :) Hmmm... this could explain the swampy area behind your shop... -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Jun 11 09:08:17 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:08:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] screen gone wild... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, 11 Jun 2010, Roy Coates wrote: > On Fri, 11 Jun 2010, Gene Buckle wrote: > >>> This guy can build flight sims from scratch but forget to build a >>> bathroom? >>> >> It's worse, no running water! :) > > > Hmmm... this could explain the swampy area behind your shop... > No, that's due to the f'ing artifical wetland the county created to offset the one they destroyed in order to build a new sprog edumacation center. You wouldn't believe the hassle that damn thing caused when I was trying to get the shop built. If it was up to me, I'd pave the damn thing just to make it go away. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Fri Jun 11 08:24:16 2010 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:24:16 +0100 (BST) Subject: [simpits-tech] screen gone wild... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 11 Jun 2010, Gene Buckle wrote: > > Hmmm... this could explain the swampy area behind your shop... > > > No, that's due to the f'ing artifical wetland the county created to offset > the one they destroyed in order to build a new sprog edumacation center. > You wouldn't believe the hassle that damn thing caused when I was trying > to get the shop built. If it was up to me, I'd pave the damn thing just > to make it go away. Or... you could stop peeing behind the workshop :) -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Jun 11 09:30:26 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:30:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] screen gone wild... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, 11 Jun 2010, Roy Coates wrote: > On Fri, 11 Jun 2010, Gene Buckle wrote: > >>> Hmmm... this could explain the swampy area behind your shop... >>> >> No, that's due to the f'ing artifical wetland the county created to offset >> the one they destroyed in order to build a new sprog edumacation center. >> You wouldn't believe the hassle that damn thing caused when I was trying >> to get the shop built. If it was up to me, I'd pave the damn thing just >> to make it go away. > > > Or... you could stop peeing behind the workshop :) > Now where's that trout.... g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! From echotech1452 at gmail.com Sat Jun 12 07:09:06 2010 From: echotech1452 at gmail.com (delor lauchang) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 10:09:06 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] screen gone wild... In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: Hi Gene, An idea for your screen cloth, when my dad used to help in building movie theatres, they use the leatherette cloth with small holes that they use for car interior head ceiling, the small holes adds good pixel contrast with its white color. Think you can get them at upholstery supplies store. Cant wait to see the rig working. Have a great weekend. On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Gene Buckle wrote: > On Fri, 11 Jun 2010, delor lauchang wrote: > > > Awesome, this is the mother of all flight simulators. Cant wait to see it > > finished( do we ever get finished ?) or should I say start flying. the > first > > individually handcrafted set-up by an individual. This should go the > > Guinness book of world records. > > > > Under the heading, "Gene finally finished one!"? :) > > The screen is really too big. At some point I'm going to design a new one > that will have a much tighter radius. That will require a more difficult > projector layout, so I'm not going to mess with it right now. I'm going > to get two more canvas drop cloths for interim screen material but it will > eventually be one continuous sheet of Muslin in either white, or painted > white. > > g. > > > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project > > ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment > A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. > http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20100612/76954e1c/attachment.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Sat Jun 12 20:25:23 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 20:25:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] screen gone wild... In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: On Sat, 12 Jun 2010, delor lauchang wrote: > Hi Gene, > > An idea for your screen cloth, when my dad used to help in building movie > theatres, they use the leatherette cloth with small holes that they use for > car interior head ceiling, the small holes adds good pixel contrast with its > white color. Think you can get them at upholstery supplies store. > That stuff can be pretty expensive, especially when I need 9+ yards of it. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! From echotech1452 at gmail.com Sun Jun 13 06:47:15 2010 From: echotech1452 at gmail.com (delor lauchang) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 09:47:15 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] screen gone wild... In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: If $25/yard works for you, heres a link, http://cgi.ebay.com/Perforated-Marine-grade-vinyl-seats-cushions-insert-/200470990521?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Fabric&hash=item2ead008eb9 have a nice weekend On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Gene Buckle wrote: > On Sat, 12 Jun 2010, delor lauchang wrote: > > > Hi Gene, > > > > An idea for your screen cloth, when my dad used to help in building movie > > theatres, they use the leatherette cloth with small holes that they use > for > > car interior head ceiling, the small holes adds good pixel contrast with > its > > white color. Think you can get them at upholstery supplies store. > > > That stuff can be pretty expensive, especially when I need 9+ yards of it. > :) > > g. > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project > > ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment > A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. > http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20100613/df589721/attachment.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Sun Jun 13 09:29:24 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 09:29:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] screen gone wild... In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: On Sun, 13 Jun 2010, delor lauchang wrote: > If $25/yard works for you, heres a link, > http://cgi.ebay.com/Perforated-Marine-grade-vinyl-seats-cushions-insert-/200470990521?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Fabric&hash=item2ead008eb9 Muslin runs about $5/yd. :) Thanks for the link though. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Mon Jun 14 06:02:30 2010 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:02:30 +0100 (BST) Subject: [simpits-tech] DIY cockpit pics! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 11 Jun 2010, Gene Buckle wrote: > Here are three pics of Jerry's DIY cockpit build: I still want royalties dammit! ;-) > This is the seat he's chosen to use: > http://shop.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/evergreen-outdoors-low-back-boat-seat-gray.aspx?a=647996 > At $26, you can't lose. I suspect he'll pipe in at some point and let us > know how comfortable it is. Jeez, that seat is a serious bargain! Nice work Jerry :-) -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Jun 18 14:17:16 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 14:17:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Why Gene shouldn't do math. Message-ID: I suspect you've all seen my absurdly large screen by now. If not, behold: http://www.simpits.org/geneb/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/six-segments-3.jpg That screen is six of the 8 segments needed to build a 180 degree screen that's right around 24' in diameter. The size of that thing has been bugging me ever since I built it. I started working through the figures again. Yell if I screw it up (again): Each projector can display a 110" wide image. Three of them would require a screen 330 inches wide. Now I want to display this on a screen that covers a field of view that's 180 to 225 degrees. Now going on the assumtion that those 330 inches of screen would be pretty close to a circle that's 660 inches in circumference, right? Right. So a circle that's 660 inches in circumference works out to a diameter of roughly 210 inches or 17.5 feet. I can honestly say that I have no farking clue where I came up with a screen diameter of 24 feet. It must have been a math induced brain fever or something. Back to the drawing board I go.... g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! From allendc at qwest.net Fri Jun 18 16:15:39 2010 From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 17:15:39 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Why Gene shouldn't do math. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20100618231543.C623F1A98CD@mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net> Gene I come up with three 110 inch screen segments each at 75 degrees for a total screen angle of 225 degrees with a radius of 90.3474 inches or a diameter of 180.6948 inches or 15.0579 feet David www.737FlightSim.com At 02:17 PM 6/18/2010 -0700, you wrote: >I suspect you've all seen my absurdly large screen by now. If not, >behold: > >http://www.simpits.org/geneb/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/six-segments-3.jpg > >That screen is six of the 8 segments needed to build a 180 degree screen >that's right around 24' in diameter. > >The size of that thing has been bugging me ever since I built it. > >I started working through the figures again. Yell if I screw it up >(again): > >Each projector can display a 110" wide image. Three of them would require >a screen 330 inches wide. Now I want to display this on a screen that >covers a field of view that's 180 to 225 degrees. > >Now going on the assumtion that those 330 inches of screen would be pretty >close to a circle that's 660 inches in circumference, right? Right. > >So a circle that's 660 inches in circumference works out to a diameter of >roughly 210 inches or 17.5 feet. > >I can honestly say that I have no farking clue where I came up with a >screen diameter of 24 feet. It must have been a math induced brain fever >or something. > >Back to the drawing board I go.... > >g. > > >-- >Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 >http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. >http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project > >ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment >A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. >http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! >_______________________________________________ >Simpits-tech mailing list >Simpits-tech at simpits.org >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the >above page. Thanks! > > >__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >signature database 5208 (20100618) __________ > >The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > >http://www.eset.com From allendc at qwest.net Fri Jun 18 16:59:19 2010 From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 17:59:19 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Why Gene shouldn't do math. Message-ID: <20100618235924.3BC791A9846@mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net> Gene I come up second version with three 110 inch screen segments each at 60 degrees for a total screen angle of 180 degrees with a radius of 110 inches or a diameter of 220 inches or 18.333 feet David www.737FlightSim.com At 02:17 PM 6/18/2010 -0700, you wrote: >I suspect you've all seen my absurdly large screen by now. If not, >behold: > >http://www.simpits.org/geneb/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/six-segments-3.jpg > >That screen is six of the 8 segments needed to build a 180 degree screen >that's right around 24' in diameter. > >The size of that thing has been bugging me ever since I built it. > >I started working through the figures again. Yell if I screw it up >(again): > >Each projector can display a 110" wide image. Three of them would require >a screen 330 inches wide. Now I want to display this on a screen that >covers a field of view that's 180 to 225 degrees. > >Now going on the assumtion that those 330 inches of screen would be pretty >close to a circle that's 660 inches in circumference, right? Right. > >So a circle that's 660 inches in circumference works out to a diameter of >roughly 210 inches or 17.5 feet. > >I can honestly say that I have no farking clue where I came up with a >screen diameter of 24 feet. It must have been a math induced brain fever >or something. > >Back to the drawing board I go.... > >g. > > >-- >Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 >http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. >http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project > >ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment >A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. >http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! >_______________________________________________ >Simpits-tech mailing list >Simpits-tech at simpits.org >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the >above page. Thanks! > > >__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >signature database 5208 (20100618) __________ > >The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > >http://www.eset.com From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Fri Jun 18 16:25:32 2010 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 00:25:32 +0100 (BST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Why Gene shouldn't do math. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 18 Jun 2010, Gene Buckle wrote: gene, have you tried adding beer? Today is my 50th birthday and I just got home from a surprise party a good friend organised for me. Very cool, very touching, and I may be pretty drunk too ! :^) Math always looks better after a beer - honest ! > > I suspect you've all seen my absurdly large screen by now. If not, > behold: > > http://www.simpits.org/geneb/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/six-segments-3.jpg > > That screen is six of the 8 segments needed to build a 180 degree screen > that's right around 24' in diameter. > > The size of that thing has been bugging me ever since I built it. > > I started working through the figures again. Yell if I screw it up > (again): > > Each projector can display a 110" wide image. Three of them would require > a screen 330 inches wide. Now I want to display this on a screen that > covers a field of view that's 180 to 225 degrees. > > Now going on the assumtion that those 330 inches of screen would be pretty > close to a circle that's 660 inches in circumference, right? Right. > > So a circle that's 660 inches in circumference works out to a diameter of > roughly 210 inches or 17.5 feet. > > I can honestly say that I have no farking clue where I came up with a > screen diameter of 24 feet. It must have been a math induced brain fever > or something. > > Back to the drawing board I go.... > > g. > > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project > > ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment > A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. > http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From rd at ns.sympatico.ca Fri Jun 18 17:45:15 2010 From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 21:45:15 -0300 Subject: [simpits-tech] Why Gene shouldn't do math. References: Message-ID: <01ba01cb0f48$aef6e870$0a02a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> HAPPY BIRTHDAY ROY!!! Now begins the era where all the Doctors want to insert things in places where things should normally exit. Welcome to the club! R ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Coates" To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 8:25 PM Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Why Gene shouldn't do math. > On Fri, 18 Jun 2010, Gene Buckle wrote: > > > gene, have you tried adding beer? > > > Today is my 50th birthday and I just got home from a surprise party a > good friend organised for me. Very cool, very touching, and I may be > pretty drunk too ! :^) > > Math always looks better after a beer - honest ! > > >> >> I suspect you've all seen my absurdly large screen by now. If not, >> behold: >> >> http://www.simpits.org/geneb/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/six-segments-3.jpg >> >> That screen is six of the 8 segments needed to build a 180 degree screen >> that's right around 24' in diameter. >> >> The size of that thing has been bugging me ever since I built it. >> >> I started working through the figures again. Yell if I screw it up >> (again): >> >> Each projector can display a 110" wide image. Three of them would >> require >> a screen 330 inches wide. Now I want to display this on a screen that >> covers a field of view that's 180 to 225 degrees. >> >> Now going on the assumtion that those 330 inches of screen would be >> pretty >> close to a circle that's 660 inches in circumference, right? Right. >> >> So a circle that's 660 inches in circumference works out to a diameter of >> roughly 210 inches or 17.5 feet. >> >> I can honestly say that I have no farking clue where I came up with a >> screen diameter of 24 feet. It must have been a math induced brain fever >> or something. >> >> Back to the drawing board I go.... >> >> g. >> >> >> -- >> Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 >> http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. >> http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project >> >> ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment >> A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. >> http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! >> _______________________________________________ >> Simpits-tech mailing list >> Simpits-tech at simpits.org >> http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >> To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above >> page. Thanks! >> > > > > -- > > Roy Coates. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs > meter. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! From Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com Fri Jun 18 17:45:24 2010 From: Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com (Sean Galbraith) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 12:45:24 +1200 Subject: [simpits-tech] Why Gene shouldn't do math. In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBCC467E@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Well happy birthday Roy Oh and Gene; for complex geometrical computation I generally fall back on the trusty "old take a wild guess, figure out that it didn't work, start again" approach myself, better know as trial and error. Or.. resort to autocad :) SeanG -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Roy Coates Sent: Saturday, 19 June 2010 11:26 a.m. To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Why Gene shouldn't do math. On Fri, 18 Jun 2010, Gene Buckle wrote: gene, have you tried adding beer? Today is my 50th birthday and I just got home from a surprise party a good friend organised for me. Very cool, very touching, and I may be pretty drunk too ! :^) Math always looks better after a beer - honest ! > > I suspect you've all seen my absurdly large screen by now. If not, > behold: > > http://www.simpits.org/geneb/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/six-segments-3.j pg > > That screen is six of the 8 segments needed to build a 180 degree screen > that's right around 24' in diameter. > > The size of that thing has been bugging me ever since I built it. > > I started working through the figures again. Yell if I screw it up > (again): > > Each projector can display a 110" wide image. Three of them would require > a screen 330 inches wide. Now I want to display this on a screen that > covers a field of view that's 180 to 225 degrees. > > Now going on the assumtion that those 330 inches of screen would be pretty > close to a circle that's 660 inches in circumference, right? Right. > > So a circle that's 660 inches in circumference works out to a diameter of > roughly 210 inches or 17.5 feet. > > I can honestly say that I have no farking clue where I came up with a > screen diameter of 24 feet. It must have been a math induced brain fever > or something. > > Back to the drawing board I go.... > > g. > > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project > > ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment > A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. > http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------- _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Jun 18 18:33:20 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 18:33:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Why Gene shouldn't do math. In-Reply-To: <20100618231543.C623F1A98CD@mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net> References: <20100618231543.C623F1A98CD@mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 18 Jun 2010, David C. Allen wrote: > Gene > I come up with three 110 inch screen segments each at 75 degrees for > a total screen angle of 225 degrees with a radius of 90.3474 inches > or a diameter of 180.6948 inches or 15.0579 feet > David, is the difference in our numbers due to you taking the arc length of each segment into account? I wasn't doing that. tnx. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Jun 18 18:38:12 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 18:38:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Why Gene shouldn't do math. In-Reply-To: <20100618235924.3BC791A9846@mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net> References: <20100618235924.3BC791A9846@mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 18 Jun 2010, David C. Allen wrote: > Gene > I come up second version with three 110 inch screen segments each at > 60 degrees for a total screen angle of 180 degrees with a radius of > 110 inches or a diameter of 220 inches or 18.333 feet > David, the physical screen segments will be broken down into 11.25 or 22.5 degree slices in order to make it more efficient to make parts for. That's how I did the larger one. The FOV for each projector is completely under the control of the software. For example, Ivar Hestness' 737 project is using a 225 degree physical screen using 3 projectors that show 75 degree slices of view using un-docked windows. The NThusim gang recently added a feature to their software that would clip the pixel or two wide border that appears when an un-docked window in MSFS has the input focus. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Jun 18 18:40:00 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 18:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Why Gene shouldn't do math. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, 19 Jun 2010, Roy Coates wrote: > On Fri, 18 Jun 2010, Gene Buckle wrote: > > > gene, have you tried adding beer? > > > Today is my 50th birthday and I just got home from a surprise party a > good friend organised for me. Very cool, very touching, and I may be > pretty drunk too ! :^) > Happy Birthday Roy! May your second 50 be just as awesome as the first! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Jun 18 18:49:44 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 18:49:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Why Gene shouldn't do math. In-Reply-To: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBCC467E@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> References:

<2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBCC467E@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Message-ID: On Sat, 19 Jun 2010, Sean Galbraith wrote: > Oh and Gene; for complex geometrical computation I generally fall back > on the trusty "old take a wild guess, figure out that it didn't work, > start again" approach myself, better know as trial and error. Or.. > resort to autocad :) > I think AutoCAD and my over-assumption of the problem is what got me into trouble to begin with. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Sat Jun 19 12:20:45 2010 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 20:20:45 +0100 (BST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Why Gene shouldn't do math. In-Reply-To: <01ba01cb0f48$aef6e870$0a02a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> Message-ID: On Fri, 18 Jun 2010, Rick Davis wrote: > HAPPY BIRTHDAY ROY!!! > > Now begins the era where all the Doctors want to insert things in places > where things should normally exit. > > Welcome to the club! *wince* -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Sat Jun 19 12:22:24 2010 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 20:22:24 +0100 (BST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Why Gene shouldn't do math. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 18 Jun 2010, Gene Buckle wrote: > > Happy Birthday Roy! May your second 50 be just as awesome as the first! > *hic* Thanks all. Had a pretty good time last night, paying the price for it today though. I very very seldom drink at all, so even a few beers can knock me sideways. Never again - until next time ;-) -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Tue Jun 22 08:09:05 2010 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 08:09:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] 737-200 fluel flow question Message-ID: <717386.87192.qm@web111505.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Im trying to calibrate fuel flow indicators but have no reference information. The gauges are marked PPH x 1000 and are calibrated at 0.5 - 1 - 2- 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 8 - 10? - 12. ? I need need to know where those points should be when N1 reaches 10- 20 - 30 - 40 - 50 - 60 - 70 - 80 - 90 - 100 - 110 ? Regards, Justin Messenger KANSAS MUSEUM OF MILITARY HISTORY -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20100622/8c5b673a/attachment.html From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Tue Jun 22 13:50:58 2010 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 21:50:58 +0100 (BST) Subject: [simpits-tech] 737-200 fluel flow question In-Reply-To: <717386.87192.qm@web111505.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 22 Jun 2010, Justin Messenger wrote: Justin - I found this site only today so don't know if it can answer your question but... http://www.b737.org.uk/ Roy. > Im trying to calibrate fuel flow indicators but have no reference information. The gauges are marked PPH x 1000 and are calibrated at 0.5 - 1 - 2- 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 8 - 10? - 12. > ? > I need need to know where those points should be when N1 reaches 10- 20 - 30 - 40 - 50 - 60 - 70 - 80 - 90 - 100 - 110 > ? > Regards, > > Justin Messenger > > > > KANSAS MUSEUM OF MILITARY HISTORY -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com Tue Jun 22 14:56:43 2010 From: Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com (Sean Galbraith) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 09:56:43 +1200 Subject: [simpits-tech] 737-200 fluel flow question In-Reply-To: <717386.87192.qm@web111505.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <717386.87192.qm@web111505.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2FB39A1077E2CC48BD7ECF1A3C363FEBCC46B2@PS-CH1.pacsim.local> Fuel Flow is not tied directly to N1, it depends on a whole deal of other factors, like speed pressure/altitude etc. I can't remember what the -200 is like, but I'd guess at something like 2200 pph at cruise.... SeanG ________________________________ From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Justin Messenger Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2010 3:09 a.m. To: Simpits Tech Subject: [simpits-tech] 737-200 fluel flow question Im trying to calibrate fuel flow indicators but have no reference information. The gauges are marked PPH x 1000 and are calibrated at 0.5 - 1 - 2- 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 8 - 10 - 12. I need need to know where those points should be when N1 reaches 10- 20 - 30 - 40 - 50 - 60 - 70 - 80 - 90 - 100 - 110 Regards, Justin Messenger KANSAS MUSEUM OF MILITARY HISTORY -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20100623/7211fc0f/attachment.html From brian at sikkema.us Thu Jun 24 04:31:48 2010 From: brian at sikkema.us (Brian Sikkema) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 20:31:48 +0900 Subject: [simpits-tech] 737-200 fluel flow question In-Reply-To: <717386.87192.qm@web111505.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <717386.87192.qm@web111505.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C234224.40800@sikkema.us> On 6/23/2010 12:09 AM, Justin Messenger wrote: > Im trying to calibrate fuel flow indicators but have no reference > information. The gauges are marked PPH x 1000 and are calibrated at > 0.5 - 1 - 2- 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 8 - 10 - 12. > I need need to know where those points should be when N1 reaches 10- > 20 - 30 - 40 - 50 - 60 - 70 - 80 - 90 - 100 - 110 > Regards, > > *Justin Messenger* > > KANSAS MUSEUM OF MILITARY HISTORY > > Justin, How soon do you need to know? Our engines are virtually identical to the 737's. As mentioned earlier, there's no direct correlation between FF and N1, but next time I get some time to play in the sim I can get you some rough numbers. I do know that at ground idle you're sitting at about 900PPH, with N1 at ~10% or so. Flight idle kicks that up a bit. And yeah, 2200-2500 is a good wag for cruise. Brian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20100624/bc20da4e/attachment.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Jun 29 07:43:14 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 07:43:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] test... Message-ID: I'm tweaking spam settings on the simpits.org mail server, please don't reply to this. tnx. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Jun 29 06:57:24 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 06:57:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] screen... Message-ID: Saturday I got all but 8 parts cut for the new screen configuration. David Allen provided me with a nice drawing that I used as the basis for the new screen. This one consists of four main segments that covers 180 degrees and two smaller segments that when added to the ends gives me a 225 degree screen. I'll get the last parts cut either this week or this coming Saturday and begin assembly. I've reduced the old screen to scrap in order to recover the 2x4s I used for the legs. :) The new screen has a diameter of 15' instead of that absurd 24' I was working with before. :) I found a supplier of raw screen material here: http://www.buildyourownprojectionscreen.com/ The prices seem pretty reasonable. They also sell a .090" thick rear projection material that I may be able to use with the F-15. In order to build a screen suitable for rear projection, it would have to be made from some steel components in order to reduce the number of structural parts - it needs to be "sparse" enough to not cause shadows on the screen. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Tue Jun 29 10:42:15 2010 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 18:42:15 +0100 (BST) Subject: [simpits-tech] test... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 29 Jun 2010, Gene Buckle wrote: > I'm tweaking spam settings on the simpits.org mail server, please don't > reply to this. > Ok. *snicker* -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From allendc at qwest.net Tue Jun 29 14:05:11 2010 From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 15:05:11 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] test... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20100629210546.E3B0F6278F4@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net> At 07:43 AM 6/29/2010 -0700, you wrote: >I'm tweaking spam settings on the simpits.org mail server, please don't >reply to this. My guess Roy will respond to this, no matter what you request David >tnx. > >g. > > >-- >Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 >http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. >http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project > >ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment >A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. >http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! >_______________________________________________ >Simpits-tech mailing list >Simpits-tech at simpits.org >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the >above page. Thanks! > > >__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >signature database 5237 (20100629) __________ > >The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > >http://www.eset.com From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Tue Jun 29 13:19:11 2010 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 21:19:11 +0100 (BST) Subject: [simpits-tech] test... In-Reply-To: <20100629210546.E3B0F6278F4@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: On Tue, 29 Jun 2010, David C. Allen wrote: > At 07:43 AM 6/29/2010 -0700, you wrote: > >I'm tweaking spam settings on the simpits.org mail server, please don't > >reply to this. > > My guess Roy will respond to this, no matter what you request > Bingo! The only time I wouldn't respond would be if gene asked me to. ;-) -- Roy Coates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Jun 29 14:32:05 2010 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 14:32:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] test... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 29 Jun 2010, Roy Coates wrote: > On Tue, 29 Jun 2010, David C. Allen wrote: > >> At 07:43 AM 6/29/2010 -0700, you wrote: >>> I'm tweaking spam settings on the simpits.org mail server, please don't >>> reply to this. >> >> My guess Roy will respond to this, no matter what you request >> > > > Bingo! > > The only time I wouldn't respond would be if gene asked me to. ;-) > *sigh* g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!