From allendc at qwest.net Mon Nov 2 10:49:16 2009 From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 11:49:16 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] Offer to purchase circuit board design and software services. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20091102184919.DB16353BE81@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net> Since the list is slow, and I am in the need of some circuit board design and software services. The project is the voltmeter display in the 737NG. The display is made up of six 5x7 4 digit intelligent displays in two rows of three displays. I can provide the manufactures data sheet. I have enough displays to build 6 voltmeter displays. I need to find someone to design the electronics to drive the displays and communicate with FSUIPC. I have a autocad drawing of the display placement and circuit board mounting hole locations. Contact me directly and we can discuss wealth management ($$) and a time line. As a side note Chester of Phidgets.com built me a prototype, but since it never went into production, the unit was not included in the phidgets library and therefore no method to communicate with the board. David www.737FlightSim.com From allendc at qwest.net Thu Nov 5 15:19:58 2009 From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:19:58 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] Beta Innovations ??????????? Message-ID: <20091105232002.493D6621C76@mpls-qmqp-03.inet.qwest.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20091105/8470cd9f/attachment.html From rd at ns.sympatico.ca Thu Nov 5 15:24:02 2009 From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 19:24:02 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] Beta Innovations ??????????? References: <20091105232002.493D6621C76@mpls-qmqp-03.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: <09a001ca5e6f$0fa087c0$0b02a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> Thanks David. Good to know. I love his stuff. ----- Original Message ----- From: David C. Allen To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 7:19 PM Subject: [simpits-tech] Beta Innovations ??????????? I found this searching for Beta Innovations http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?t38884 Hello Sim-Racers and Sim-Cockpits builders , Leo Lacava and St?phane Bourdouxhe asked me to announce you that you NOW CAN place order for the last time for Beta Innovations Products ! For people who know BI, even if Beta Innovations is closed, Leo - harassed by products request - will try to do a last production. Only if he has enough orders. Here I am. I'll help him to group all sim-racers' orders. For people who don't know BI, Beta Innovations is a little canadian company which creates Hardware for Flight and Race simulations. Thanks to its products we can create Buttons Box, analogic joysticks, control gauge on computer and also connect a real car instrument/Tacho on computer. Here are some examples of sim-cockpits with Beta Innovations products: David www.737FlightSim.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20091105/fbab235b/attachment.html From allendc at qwest.net Fri Nov 6 18:24:19 2009 From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:24:19 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] Synchro converter boards was Beta Innovations Nitro Analog board In-Reply-To: <008401c7a562$8ccc5d50$1900a8c0@jaysoffice> References: <20070602035244.CF42A53BD35@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net> <001901c7a4d5$aa4c39a0$1900a8c0@jaysoffice> <20070602164555.9732E621DBF@mpls-qmqp-03.inet.qwest.net> <006e01c7a558$c73f54b0$1900a8c0@jaysoffice> <20070602213220.1D64D62D41B@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net> <008401c7a562$8ccc5d50$1900a8c0@jaysoffice> Message-ID: <20091107022428.2D54F62789B@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net> Jay Any word on the Synchro converter boards? David www.737FlightSim.com At 05:08 PM 6/2/2007 -0500, you wrote: >As soon as I have the final version of that circuit and he gives me the >green light, it will be drawn up as fast as I can and off to the makers. > >Jay > >-----Original Message----- >From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org >[mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of David C. Allen >Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 4:32 PM >To: Simulator Cockpit tech list >Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Beta Innovations Nitro Analog board > >At 03:58 PM 6/2/2007 -0500, you wrote: > >So you are driving synchros with a 0-5v signal, did I read that correctly? > >No I am waiting for Mikes book to be released and for you to start >making the Synchro converter boards >:-} >:-} >:-} >:-} > > >With regards to the needle in the off position...I thought I was anal > >retentive. I like it. > >LOL > > >I decided to compromise on that issue with my pit > >for the ease of which the AC motors work. I simply scavenged the faces and > >needles from my real gauges along with the cans. > >I can understand that ! > >David >www.737FlightSim.com > > > >Jay > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org > >[mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of David C. Allen > >Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 11:46 AM > >To: Simulator Cockpit tech list > >Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Beta Innovations Nitro Analog board > > > >Hi Jay > >I converted the real instruments in "Analog.JPG" to 0 to 5vdc operation. > > > >There are Synchro driven instruments in the 737 and they will be > >converted to air core with the second Nitro board. > > > >The main reason I wanted to use the real instruments is the fact of > >how they respond when the aircraft is powered or when aircraft power > >is removed. > > > >With Synchro driven instruments they tend to remain at the position > >when power is removed (provided the pointer is balanced) while the > >other styles of instruments drop to the bottom of the scale when > >power is removed (spring meter movement). All of the instruments in > >"Analog.JPG" drop to the bottom of the scale or center, when power is > >removed. So when you bring a power bus on line the instruments > >respond properly (AKA anal-retentive 737 sim builder) > > > >A true servo motor with position feedback (like a RC Servo) would be > >the best match to replace the Synchro in a Synchro driven instruments > >because it can position the motor shaft on power up and the shaft > >stays in last commanded position when powered down. > > > >It would be nice to have a choice of air core Boards or RC Servo > >boards the directly plug into the Nitro board. > > > >David > >www.737FlightSim.com > > > >At 12:19 AM 6/2/2007 -0500, you wrote: > > >Not to answer for David, but yes. The air cores are really working out > >well > > >for Leo. > > > > > >I have three of my F-16 gauges converted to air core and they work > > >wonderfully. Leo is sending me the rest of the gauges next week >including > > >the one inch gauges. These have a very tiny air core motor that I helped > > >him get. Company here in the states would never call them back until I > >just > > >hounded them enough and got them to sell me 75 units. Leo is about to >buy > > >more from me and I'm about to have to order more. These babies are >selling > > >like hot cakes. So far, just about all the round gauges for falcon are > > >fully working. Only ones that aren't are the ones that have no sh. Mem > > >value, but leo is going to program his software to "fake" those values so > > >you will have them "working" as well. Like for cabin pressure, we will > > >monitor things like the canopy status and other logic to cause this gauge > >to > > >"function". Same for the Hyd gauges as well. > > > > > >David, good to see you having some working gauges there. As soon as I >get > > >mine going, I will post up a video. > > > > > >I've been spending time back in the garage again with my new tool. >Finally > > >bought myself a metal lathe and been learning all about turning last >couple > > >of weeks. > > > > > >jay > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org > > >[mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Gene Buckle > > >Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 12:09 AM > > >To: Simulator Cockpit tech list > > >Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Beta Innovations Nitro Analog board > > > > > > > Hello everyone > > > > Leo did it again with his GREAT Nitro Board. I am able to control the > > > > 737's analog instruments with this board. > > > > > > > > Some images: > > > > > > > > http://www.737flightsim.com/Analog/Analog.JPG > > > > > > > > http://www.737flightsim.com/Analog/Analog4.jpg > > > > > > > > http://www.737flightsim.com/Analog/Analog5.jpg > > > > > > > > > > >David, have those been rebuilt using Leo's air-core motor assemblies? > > > > > >g. > > > > > >-- > > >"I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" > > > > > >Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > > >http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Simpits-tech mailing list > > >Simpits-tech at simpits.org > > >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > > >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > >page. > > >Thanks! > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Simpits-tech mailing list > > >Simpits-tech at simpits.org > > >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > > >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the > > >above page. 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From crease-guard at sbcglobal.net Sat Nov 7 07:52:12 2009 From: crease-guard at sbcglobal.net (Joseph Fagner) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 09:52:12 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Synchro converter boards was Beta Innovations Nitro Analog board In-Reply-To: <20091107022428.2D54F62789B@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net> References: <20070602035244.CF42A53BD35@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net><001901c7a4d5$aa4c39a0$1900a8c0@jaysoffice><20070602164555.9732E621DBF@mpls-qmqp-03.inet.qwest.net><006e01c7a558$c73f54b0$1900a8c0@jaysoffice><20070602213220.1D64D62D41B@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net><008401c7a562$8ccc5d50$1900a8c0@jaysoffice> <20091107022428.2D54F62789B@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: <824D340E0D80426CBCBEB5EEAF42F76D@flightsystems> Real life has sucked up time these past months. I haven't worked on my own pit for a year now, just collecting dust. Not sure when I'll get to this. Jay Show me a man who cannot be bothered to do the little things, and I will show you a man who cannot be trusted to do the big ones. --Lawrence Bell, Founder Bell Helicopter -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of David C. Allen Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 8:24 PM To: Simulator Cockpit tech list Subject: [simpits-tech] Synchro converter boards was Beta Innovations Nitro Analog board Jay Any word on the Synchro converter boards? David www.737FlightSim.com At 05:08 PM 6/2/2007 -0500, you wrote: >As soon as I have the final version of that circuit and he gives me the >green light, it will be drawn up as fast as I can and off to the makers. > >Jay > >-----Original Message----- >From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org >[mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of David C. Allen >Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 4:32 PM >To: Simulator Cockpit tech list >Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Beta Innovations Nitro Analog board > >At 03:58 PM 6/2/2007 -0500, you wrote: > >So you are driving synchros with a 0-5v signal, did I read that correctly? > >No I am waiting for Mikes book to be released and for you to start >making the Synchro converter boards >:-} >:-} >:-} >:-} > > >With regards to the needle in the off position...I thought I was anal > >retentive. I like it. > >LOL > > >I decided to compromise on that issue with my pit > >for the ease of which the AC motors work. I simply scavenged the faces and > >needles from my real gauges along with the cans. > >I can understand that ! > >David >www.737FlightSim.com > > > >Jay > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org > >[mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of David C. Allen > >Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 11:46 AM > >To: Simulator Cockpit tech list > >Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Beta Innovations Nitro Analog board > > > >Hi Jay > >I converted the real instruments in "Analog.JPG" to 0 to 5vdc operation. > > > >There are Synchro driven instruments in the 737 and they will be > >converted to air core with the second Nitro board. > > > >The main reason I wanted to use the real instruments is the fact of > >how they respond when the aircraft is powered or when aircraft power > >is removed. > > > >With Synchro driven instruments they tend to remain at the position > >when power is removed (provided the pointer is balanced) while the > >other styles of instruments drop to the bottom of the scale when > >power is removed (spring meter movement). All of the instruments in > >"Analog.JPG" drop to the bottom of the scale or center, when power is > >removed. So when you bring a power bus on line the instruments > >respond properly (AKA anal-retentive 737 sim builder) > > > >A true servo motor with position feedback (like a RC Servo) would be > >the best match to replace the Synchro in a Synchro driven instruments > >because it can position the motor shaft on power up and the shaft > >stays in last commanded position when powered down. > > > >It would be nice to have a choice of air core Boards or RC Servo > >boards the directly plug into the Nitro board. > > > >David > >www.737FlightSim.com > > > >At 12:19 AM 6/2/2007 -0500, you wrote: > > >Not to answer for David, but yes. The air cores are really working out > >well > > >for Leo. > > > > > >I have three of my F-16 gauges converted to air core and they work > > >wonderfully. Leo is sending me the rest of the gauges next week >including > > >the one inch gauges. These have a very tiny air core motor that I helped > > >him get. Company here in the states would never call them back until I > >just > > >hounded them enough and got them to sell me 75 units. Leo is about to >buy > > >more from me and I'm about to have to order more. These babies are >selling > > >like hot cakes. So far, just about all the round gauges for falcon are > > >fully working. Only ones that aren't are the ones that have no sh. Mem > > >value, but leo is going to program his software to "fake" those values so > > >you will have them "working" as well. Like for cabin pressure, we will > > >monitor things like the canopy status and other logic to cause this gauge > >to > > >"function". Same for the Hyd gauges as well. > > > > > >David, good to see you having some working gauges there. As soon as I >get > > >mine going, I will post up a video. > > > > > >I've been spending time back in the garage again with my new tool. >Finally > > >bought myself a metal lathe and been learning all about turning last >couple > > >of weeks. > > > > > >jay > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org > > >[mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Gene Buckle > > >Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 12:09 AM > > >To: Simulator Cockpit tech list > > >Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Beta Innovations Nitro Analog board > > > > > > > Hello everyone > > > > Leo did it again with his GREAT Nitro Board. I am able to control the > > > > 737's analog instruments with this board. > > > > > > > > Some images: > > > > > > > > http://www.737flightsim.com/Analog/Analog.JPG > > > > > > > > http://www.737flightsim.com/Analog/Analog4.jpg > > > > > > > > http://www.737flightsim.com/Analog/Analog5.jpg > > > > > > > > > > >David, have those been rebuilt using Leo's air-core motor assemblies? > > > > > >g. > > > > > >-- > > >"I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" > > > > > >Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > > >http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Simpits-tech mailing list > > >Simpits-tech at simpits.org > > >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > > >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > >page. > > >Thanks! > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Simpits-tech mailing list > > >Simpits-tech at simpits.org > > >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > > >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the > > >above page. 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From snar5 at yahoo.com Sat Nov 7 08:02:39 2009 From: snar5 at yahoo.com (snar5 at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 08:02:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Beginner (Again) Message-ID: <772735.72886.qm@web65609.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Hello All, I know this is a very stupid question so please be gentle but i have been out of the loop except for this list in a few years, I am trying to learn how to interface with FSX and have some old equipment that I purchased and was curious if things would still work.? I purchased a photon board with 7 seg displays and would like to use them if possible. Also if i was so inclined to write my own software where is a good place to get the information i would need to do this.?I guess what i am saying is?I have totally forgotten how to interface with MSFS? and?I am?assuming things have changed from when i last did this about?5 years ago. Thank you all for the?continued inspriation and awesome information all these years. Mark ? From geneb at deltasoft.com Sun Nov 22 15:46:58 2009 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 15:46:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Project update... Message-ID: Trim wheels: http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/trim/trim_wheel1.jpg http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/trim/trim_wheel2.jpg Finished throttle quadrant and rebuilt rudder pedals: http://www.simpits.org/geneb/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/throttle_done1.jpg http://www.simpits.org/geneb/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/rudder_pedals1.jpg More pics & info here: www.simpits.org/geneb It's been waaay too quiet here guys! :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! From catalina299 at gmail.com Sun Nov 22 17:34:36 2009 From: catalina299 at gmail.com (William Segal) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:34:36 -0800 Subject: [simpits-tech] WINDOWS 7 Message-ID: <3a0a6c680911221734g7bc3367dv6fc6758506ae700@mail.gmail.com> Is anyone running Windows 7 in X-plane with out any issues? . For that matter in 64 bit in any sim with out issues? Regards Bill 1.25NM ESE KSMO 21 From bjones at pipecomp.com.au Mon Nov 23 00:28:05 2009 From: bjones at pipecomp.com.au (Ben Jones) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:28:05 +0900 Subject: [simpits-tech] Project update... References: Message-ID: <002701ca6c16$e18328b0$0200a8c0@BenLaptop> Nice work on the bits gene, Like I have said before why the hell aren't you guy's building real aircraft, its no harder than what you are doing now ;-), keep up the good work. Yeah been way too quiet I'll have to defrost the trout in anticipation of a smart arse comment out of the UK. regards Ben West Oz AUSTRALIA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Buckle" > > It's been waaay too quiet here guys! :) > > > g. > From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Nov 23 06:10:04 2009 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 06:10:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Project update... In-Reply-To: <002701ca6c16$e18328b0$0200a8c0@BenLaptop> References: <002701ca6c16$e18328b0$0200a8c0@BenLaptop> Message-ID: On Mon, 23 Nov 2009, Ben Jones wrote: > Nice work on the bits gene, > > Like I have said before why the hell aren't you guy's building real > aircraft, its no harder than what you are doing now ;-), keep up the good > work. > Because it costs a LOT more for materials. :) > Yeah been way too quiet I'll have to defrost the trout in anticipation of a > smart arse comment out of the UK. > *grabs popcorn* g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! From lestatandakasha at msn.com Mon Nov 23 06:36:59 2009 From: lestatandakasha at msn.com (lestatandakasha at msn.com) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:36:59 -0000 Subject: [simpits-tech] Project update... In-Reply-To: References: <002701ca6c16$e18328b0$0200a8c0@BenLaptop> Message-ID: The expense - and i was never really any good at wings. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Gene Buckle" Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 2:10 PM To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Project update... > On Mon, 23 Nov 2009, Ben Jones wrote: > >> Nice work on the bits gene, >> >> Like I have said before why the hell aren't you guy's building real >> aircraft, its no harder than what you are doing now ;-), keep up the >> good >> work. >> > Because it costs a LOT more for materials. :) > >> Yeah been way too quiet I'll have to defrost the trout in anticipation of >> a >> smart arse comment out of the UK. >> > *grabs popcorn* > > g. > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > > ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment > A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. > http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > From cyplesma at aol.com Mon Nov 23 09:14:04 2009 From: cyplesma at aol.com (cyplesma at aol.com) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:14:04 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Project update... In-Reply-To: References: <002701ca6c16$e18328b0$0200a8c0@BenLaptop> Message-ID: <8CC3A777DDDC57B-FD8-1BEDB@webmail-d039.sysops.aol.com> and then there's insurance, flight plans, flight plan fees, licenses license fees, and of course the money for fuel, sorry "The expense" just seemed a little too general. Oh and sooner or later you have to land. with sims you can wreck on purpose. and actually laugh about it. and fly drunk, don't get caught doing that in real life. -----Original Message----- From: lestatandakasha at msn.com To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List Sent: Mon, Nov 23, 2009 9:36 am Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Project update... The expense - and i was never really any good at wings. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Gene Buckle" Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 2:10 PM To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Project update... > On Mon, 23 Nov 2009, Ben Jones wrote: > >> Nice work on the bits gene, >> >> Like I have said before why the hell aren't you guy's building real >> aircraft, its no harder than what you are doing now ;-), keep up the >> good >> work. >> > Because it costs a LOT more for materials. :) > >> Yeah been way too quiet I'll have to defrost the trout in anticipation of >> a >> smart arse comment out of the UK. >> > *grabs popcorn* > > g. > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > > ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment > A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. > http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. 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