From geneb at deltasoft.com  Wed Jul  1 14:14:48 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 14:14:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] LVDT's Anyone ?
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On Tue, 30 Jun 2009, Roy Coates wrote:

> On Tue, 30 Jun 2009, Joseph Fagner wrote:
>
>> How many do you need and how big of a hurry?
>>
>
> Heh. The problem is not getting them, but that I've got them!
>
> I'm working on a cockpit previously used to develop stuff for the
> Eurofighter Typhoon and it's LVDT equipped.
>
*gasps*

You lucky so and so!

Good catch, Roy. :)

Got any pics?

g.

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From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Wed Jul  1 15:33:31 2009
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 23:33:31 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] LVDT's Anyone ?
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On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:

> > I'm working on a cockpit previously used to develop stuff for the
> > Eurofighter Typhoon and it's LVDT equipped.
> >
> *gasps*
>
> You lucky so and so!
>
> Good catch, Roy. :)
>
> Got any pics?


Good catch?  Hmmm... very debatable that one.  They've not left me much to
work with!

I took a few pics yesterdat - will get them online shortly.

Roy.


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Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
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From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Wed Jul  1 19:07:07 2009
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 03:07:07 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] LVDT's Anyone ? (New Projects)
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On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:

> > I'm working on a cockpit previously used to develop stuff for the
> > Eurofighter Typhoon and it's LVDT equipped.
> >
> *gasps*
>
> You lucky so and so!
>
> Good catch, Roy. :)
>
> Got any pics?


A couple of pics here.  Hard to get because it's currently in a small
storeroom and is also partially stripped out. At least the seat is real!
Apparently this cockpit mock-up was used for both the Tornado and the
Eurofighter - decades apart?  We'll be using it as a generic(ish) fast jet
for human factors work.

Have also included a couple of 'sneak-peek' pics of one of my other
current projects.

here: http://www.x-panel.org/fastjet/

Roy.

--

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Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
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From rd at ns.sympatico.ca  Wed Jul  1 18:15:10 2009
From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis)
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:15:10 -0300
Subject: [simpits-tech] LVDT's Anyone ? (New Projects)
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907020304510.20529-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <00b401c9fab2$8b954cb0$0a02a8c0@your384jh9sv0b>

Roy,

That last picture looks a lot like a Concord. Especially the Yokes??

R
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roy Coates" <roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk>
To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] LVDT's Anyone ? (New Projects)


> On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:
>
>> > I'm working on a cockpit previously used to develop stuff for the
>> > Eurofighter Typhoon and it's LVDT equipped.
>> >
>> *gasps*
>>
>> You lucky so and so!
>>
>> Good catch, Roy. :)
>>
>> Got any pics?
>
>
> A couple of pics here.  Hard to get because it's currently in a small
> storeroom and is also partially stripped out. At least the seat is real!
> Apparently this cockpit mock-up was used for both the Tornado and the
> Eurofighter - decades apart?  We'll be using it as a generic(ish) fast jet
> for human factors work.
>
> Have also included a couple of 'sneak-peek' pics of one of my other
> current projects.
>
> here: http://www.x-panel.org/fastjet/
>
> Roy.
>
> --
>
> Roy Coates.
> Dept of Engineering.
> Liverpool University.
> E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
> Tel: 0151 794 4862
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> Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs 
> meter.
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From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Wed Jul  1 19:22:06 2009
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 03:22:06 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] LVDT's Anyone ? (New Projects)
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On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, Rick Davis wrote:

> Roy,
>
> That last picture looks a lot like a Concord. Especially the Yokes??
>

Heh - a lot of people say that!  Rams-Horn yokes are more popular than you
might think.

The seats/yokes/pedals and throttle box for that project came from an
HS125.  The sim layout is that of a BAe Jetstream 41.

--

Roy Coates.
Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
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Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From rd at ns.sympatico.ca  Wed Jul  1 18:31:01 2009
From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis)
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:31:01 -0300
Subject: [simpits-tech] LVDT's Anyone ? (New Projects)
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907020321060.20529-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
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Interesting.

Both nice little run abouts.

Thinking about it, didn't the Yoke in the Concord have a little side stick 
on it or something? Just a little 6" stick that juts out from the Yoke body 
on the right?

I see Austin has included the Concord in X-Plane now. Must try it sometime. 
One thing you may be able to clear up, because I've been told this but don't 
know how much credence to apply to it, that the Concord actually flew by 
shifting fuel (weight) from forward to rear, and right wing to left wing? 
Any truth to that? Theory being that it flew so fast ailerons were 
ineffective (or prone to being blown to bits) so when you turn the Yoke 
left, pumps transfer fuel from the right wing to the left wing.

Sounds bizaar, but possible?


R


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> On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, Rick Davis wrote:
>
>> Roy,
>>
>> That last picture looks a lot like a Concord. Especially the Yokes??
>>
>
> Heh - a lot of people say that!  Rams-Horn yokes are more popular than you
> might think.
>
> The seats/yokes/pedals and throttle box for that project came from an
> HS125.  The sim layout is that of a BAe Jetstream 41.
>
> --
>
> Roy Coates.
> Dept of Engineering.
> Liverpool University.
> E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
> Tel: 0151 794 4862
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs 
> meter.
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Wed Jul  1 19:46:40 2009
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 03:46:40 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] LVDT's Anyone ? (New Projects)
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On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, Rick Davis wrote:

> One thing you may be able to clear up, because I've been told this but don't
> know how much credence to apply to it, that the Concord actually flew by
> shifting fuel (weight) from forward to rear, and right wing to left wing?
> Any truth to that? Theory being that it flew so fast ailerons were
> ineffective (or prone to being blown to bits) so when you turn the Yoke
> left, pumps transfer fuel from the right wing to the left wing.
>
> Sounds bizaar, but possible?


I think that would take far too long. However...

"the centre of gravity (CoG) on Concorde it critical to it being able to
maintain supersonic speeds and also fly successfully at low speeds. The
centre of lift of the aircraft, when flying at Mach2, can move by some 6
feet. On a traditional subsonic aircraft the control surfaces (or entire
tailplane) would be moved to trim the aircraft correctly, but on Concorde
this would be unacceptable due to the drag it would cause and also leave
very little movement left to control the aircraft.

The way the change in the centre of lift from the wings is trimmed out on
Concorde is to compensate by moving the weight distribution, or CoG, by
pumping fuel from the forward trim tanks to the rear trim tanks and vice
versa. The trim tanks make up around 33 tons of fuel that can be moved
around the aircraft. (the main tanks hold 95 tons).

Before take off and during the acceleration through Mach1 to an eventual
Mach 2, fuel is pumped out of the forward trim tanks to the rear trim
tanks and the collector tanks in the wings. Around 20 tons of fuel is
moved in the process and results in a rearward shift of the CoG by 6ft (2
meters.)

At the end of the Cruise during the deceleration fuel is pumped forward to
the wing transfer and even the forward trim tanks is necessary thus moving
the CofG forward again as the centre of lift moves reward. Once on the
ground it is standard practice to then pump more fule into the forward
trim tanks to correctly balance the aircraft, so it can be unloaded
without any stability problems and the chance of it becoming a
"tailsitter"

The Movement of fuel also provides additional benefits at lower speeds: By
making the aircraft rearward heavy during take off and landing, this
causes the elevons control surfaces to move downwards to counteract this
weight and in so doing so increases the camber of the wing generating more
lift at slower speeds. Another feature is the ability to move fuel across
the aircraft between tanks 1 and 4. This allows the aircraft roll trim to
be set without having slightly different deflection on the elevons, which
again adds drag and reduces performance.

The full transfers on Concorde are carried out by the flight engineer from
his fuel control panel. On Concorde this is one of the most important and
time consuming jobs for the engineer. The panel allows the engineer to set
up the transfers to be carried out automatically and stop when the
relevant quantities of fuel have been moved to the correct tanks."


--

Roy Coates.
Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
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From rd at ns.sympatico.ca  Wed Jul  1 19:24:24 2009
From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis)
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 23:24:24 -0300
Subject: [simpits-tech] LVDT's Anyone ? (New Projects)
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roy Coates" <roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk>
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Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] LVDT's Anyone ? (New Projects)


> On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, Rick Davis wrote:
>
>> One thing you may be able to clear up, because I've been told this but 
>> don't
>> know how much credence to apply to it, that the Concord actually flew by
>> shifting fuel (weight) from forward to rear, and right wing to left wing?
>> Any truth to that? Theory being that it flew so fast ailerons were
>> ineffective (or prone to being blown to bits) so when you turn the Yoke
>> left, pumps transfer fuel from the right wing to the left wing.
>>
>> Sounds bizaar, but possible?
>
>
> I think that would take far too long. However...
>
> "the centre of gravity (CoG) on Concorde it critical to it being able to
> maintain supersonic speeds and also fly successfully at low speeds. The
> centre of lift of the aircraft, when flying at Mach2, can move by some 6
> feet. On a traditional subsonic aircraft the control surfaces (or entire
> tailplane) would be moved to trim the aircraft correctly, but on Concorde
> this would be unacceptable due to the drag it would cause and also leave
> very little movement left to control the aircraft.
>
> The way the change in the centre of lift from the wings is trimmed out on
> Concorde is to compensate by moving the weight distribution, or CoG, by
> pumping fuel from the forward trim tanks to the rear trim tanks and vice
> versa. The trim tanks make up around 33 tons of fuel that can be moved
> around the aircraft. (the main tanks hold 95 tons).
>
> Before take off and during the acceleration through Mach1 to an eventual
> Mach 2, fuel is pumped out of the forward trim tanks to the rear trim
> tanks and the collector tanks in the wings. Around 20 tons of fuel is
> moved in the process and results in a rearward shift of the CoG by 6ft (2
> meters.)
>
> At the end of the Cruise during the deceleration fuel is pumped forward to
> the wing transfer and even the forward trim tanks is necessary thus moving
> the CofG forward again as the centre of lift moves reward. Once on the
> ground it is standard practice to then pump more fule into the forward
> trim tanks to correctly balance the aircraft, so it can be unloaded
> without any stability problems and the chance of it becoming a
> "tailsitter"
>
> The Movement of fuel also provides additional benefits at lower speeds: By
> making the aircraft rearward heavy during take off and landing, this
> causes the elevons control surfaces to move downwards to counteract this
> weight and in so doing so increases the camber of the wing generating more
> lift at slower speeds. Another feature is the ability to move fuel across
> the aircraft between tanks 1 and 4. This allows the aircraft roll trim to
> be set without having slightly different deflection on the elevons, which
> again adds drag and reduces performance.
>
> The full transfers on Concorde are carried out by the flight engineer from
> his fuel control panel. On Concorde this is one of the most important and
> time consuming jobs for the engineer. The panel allows the engineer to set
> up the transfers to be carried out automatically and stop when the
> relevant quantities of fuel have been moved to the correct tanks."

Well Mr. Coates,

I certainly found your Co"G" spot! (sorry)

That was a wonderful breif on the workings of that bird. Thank you. You 
should post that to Wikki. I guess what I heard was right (although lacking 
the detail)

Concorde was an incredible machine no doubt. I was also told it had 6 
computers, could fly on two, but if two went down it would just find the 
closest place to land in it's limited list of available airports.  I don't 
think the Pilots really had a lot of control over this aircraft. If there 
were no computers for example, you are dead. It wont fly that way except 
tumbling straight down. Basically an upper atmosphere missile with wings. 
The prep time to get this thing in the air is reported to be huge. I have 
seen pictures looking forward to the cabin. The station on the right is the 
fuel transfer module??? Looks like the bloody Space Shuttle! Maybe more room 
in the Space Shuttle.

I'll have to try it now. Got my interest piqued.

Paris to NY. Nonstop. (I hope)

:)

R












From idekkers at gmail.com  Wed Jul  1 23:48:04 2009
From: idekkers at gmail.com (Ido Dekkers)
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 11:18:04 +0430
Subject: [simpits-tech] LVDT's Anyone ? (New Projects)
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From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Thu Jul  2 05:31:05 2009
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 13:31:05 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] LVDT's Anyone ? (New Projects)
In-Reply-To: <00ec01c9fabc$376fcfc0$0a02a8c0@your384jh9sv0b>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907021329270.21311-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, Rick Davis wrote:

> Well Mr. Coates,
> I certainly found your Co"G" spot! (sorry)

le groan...


> That was a wonderful breif on the workings of that bird. Thank you. You
> should post that to Wikki. I guess what I heard was right (although lacking
> the detail)

Heh. Where do you think I found all that info !?


> Concorde was an incredible machine no doubt. I was also told it had 6
> computers, could fly on two, but if two went down it would just find the
> closest place to land in it's limited list of available airports.  I don't
> think the Pilots really had a lot of control over this aircraft. If there
> were no computers for example, you are dead. It wont fly that way except
> tumbling straight down. Basically an upper atmosphere missile with wings.
> The prep time to get this thing in the air is reported to be huge. I have
> seen pictures looking forward to the cabin. The station on the right is the
> fuel transfer module??? Looks like the bloody Space Shuttle! Maybe more room
> in the Space Shuttle.

I'm not a concord fan at all. I had a rummage around the one on display at
Manchester and really don't know what all the fuss is about. Then again,
certainly in the aviation heritage world, concord has been rammed down
your throat for far too long.  I much prefer the old 1950's birds myself.


--

Roy Coates.
Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
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From catalina299 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  2 08:34:23 2009
From: catalina299 at gmail.com (William Segal)
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 08:34:23 -0700
Subject: [simpits-tech] LVDT's Anyone ? (New Projects)
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Bill wrote

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 5:31 AM, Roy Coates <roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk> wrote:

> On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, Rick Davis wrote:
>
> > Well Mr. Coates,
> > I certainly found your Co"G" spot! (sorry)
>
> le groan...
>
>
> > That was a wonderful breif on the workings of that bird. Thank you. You
> > should post that to Wikki. I guess what I heard was right (although
> lacking
> > the detail)
>
> Heh. Where do you think I found all that info !?
>
>
> > Concorde was an incredible machine no doubt. I was also told it had 6
> > computers, could fly on two, but if two went down it would just find the
> > closest place to land in it's limited list of available airports.  I
> don't
> > think the Pilots really had a lot of control over this aircraft. If there
> > were no computers for example, you are dead. It wont fly that way except
> > tumbling straight down. Basically an upper atmosphere missile with wings.
> > The prep time to get this thing in the air is reported to be huge. I have
> > seen pictures looking forward to the cabin. The station on the right is
> the
> > fuel transfer module??? Looks like the bloody Space Shuttle! Maybe more
> room
> > in the Space Shuttle.
>
> I'm not a concord fan at all. I had a rummage around the one on display at
> Manchester and really don't know what all the fuss is about. Then again,
> certainly in the aviation heritage world, concord has been rammed down
> your throat for far too long.  I much prefer the old 1950's birds myself.
>
>
> --Wait a minute if the Concorde was such a great friggin plane then ONE
>  word on

this  THIS was fantastic airplane the XB-70 faster,higher,farther up in the
air
LOOK ! it's super bird a stRange visitor from another PLANET  for truth
,justice and the AMERICAN WAY

BILLY

SORRY GUYS I guess I'M starting to smell the 4th when we chased all you
blokes outa here but we've
come to LOVEYA

>
>
> Roy Coates.
> Dept of Engineering.
> Liverpool University.
> E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
> Tel: 0151 794 4862
>
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> meter.
>
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From sean.g at paradise.net.nz  Thu Jul  2 16:02:05 2009
From: sean.g at paradise.net.nz (Sean Galbraith)
Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 11:02:05 +1200
Subject: [simpits-tech] Dzus Rails (again)
Message-ID: <0KM6009RZFZLIS20@smtp4.clear.net.nz>

I need some Dzus rails for a project at work, both the right angle 
and 'T' section types (PA-3500 Line Receptacle series)
Anyone know where I can source some, I am after a fair sort of 
quantity, and like most of these projects time is well, "short" you 
might say :)

SeanG


From geneb at deltasoft.com  Thu Jul  2 16:36:42 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 16:36:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] LVDT's Anyone ? (New Projects)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907020304510.20529-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907020304510.20529-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907021636230.7431@grumble.deltasoft.com>

>
> A couple of pics here.  Hard to get because it's currently in a small
> storeroom and is also partially stripped out. At least the seat is real!
> Apparently this cockpit mock-up was used for both the Tornado and the
> Eurofighter - decades apart?  We'll be using it as a generic(ish) fast jet
> for human factors work.
>
> Have also included a couple of 'sneak-peek' pics of one of my other
> current projects.
>
> here: http://www.x-panel.org/fastjet/
>

Very cool.  Thanks for the pics Roy!

g.

-- 
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http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

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From crease-guard at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jul  2 17:20:09 2009
From: crease-guard at sbcglobal.net (Joseph Fagner)
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 19:20:09 -0500
Subject: [simpits-tech] Dzus Rails (again)
In-Reply-To: <0KM6009RZFZLIS20@smtp4.clear.net.nz>
References: <0KM6009RZFZLIS20@smtp4.clear.net.nz>
Message-ID: <C14A544155C6464AA280C25607692830@flightsystems>

How much do you need?

Jay

Show me a man who cannot be bothered to do the little things, and I will
show you a man who cannot be trusted to do the big ones.
--Lawrence Bell, Founder Bell Helicopter
-----Original Message-----
From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org
[mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Sean Galbraith
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 6:02 PM
To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List
Subject: [simpits-tech] Dzus Rails (again)

I need some Dzus rails for a project at work, both the right angle 
and 'T' section types (PA-3500 Line Receptacle series)
Anyone know where I can source some, I am after a fair sort of 
quantity, and like most of these projects time is well, "short" you 
might say :)

SeanG

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From catalina299 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  2 18:11:03 2009
From: catalina299 at gmail.com (William Segal)
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 18:11:03 -0700
Subject: [simpits-tech] LVDT's Anyone ? (New Projects)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907021636230.7431@grumble.deltasoft.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907020304510.20529-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk> 
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0907021636230.7431@grumble.deltasoft.com>
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Bill wrote

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Gene Buckle <geneb at deltasoft.com> wrote:

> >
> > A couple of pics here.  Hard to get because it's currently in a small
> > storeroom and is also partially stripped out. At least the seat is real!
> > Apparently this cockpit mock-up was used for both the Tornado and the
> > Eurofighter - decades apart?  We'll be using it as a generic(ish) fast
> jet
> > for human factors work.
> >
> > Have also included a couple of 'sneak-peek' pics of one of my other
> > current projects.
> >
> > here: http://www.x-panel.org/fastjet/
> >
>
> Very cool.  Thanks for the pics Roy!
>
> g.
>
> --
> Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
> http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
>
> ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
> A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
> http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!
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My home sim looks similar to fasjet box .I have no glass and I am a single
monitor for the panel
kinda cheap but down the road I might go-flight ,Saiteks new gauges or even
Austins new
ensemble Iam using 3 front monitors 24 inch screen size on each driven by
the 3-2-go
no side windows but I have a wrap around view because the monitors are much
wider than the sim
all together they add up 73.5 inches which means the outside ones kind of
make a semi circle
 of course I have 5000 pixels wide driven my dual Geforce 285's OC'd
2 gigs each and there are two my second PC will be for monitor and the
Seattle Avionics
profession moving map with real authentic weather for the US .no more bs
with FS or X-plane

Regards

Bill
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From sean.g at paradise.net.nz  Thu Jul  2 18:35:18 2009
From: sean.g at paradise.net.nz (Sean Galbraith)
Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:35:18 +1200
Subject: [simpits-tech] Dzus Rails (again)
In-Reply-To: <C14A544155C6464AA280C25607692830@flightsystems>
References: <0KM6009RZFZLIS20@smtp4.clear.net.nz>
	<C14A544155C6464AA280C25607692830@flightsystems>
Message-ID: <0KM600L7XN35KA30@smtp4.clear.net.nz>

At 12:20 p.m. 3/07/2009, you wrote:
>How much do you need?

Gidday Jay,

I'm looking for enough to do a complete 737-300 pit... Overhead, Aft 
Overhead, MIP, Pedestal and CDU trays.... I know that's a big ask :)

Sean


From crease-guard at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jul  2 21:11:35 2009
From: crease-guard at sbcglobal.net (Joseph Fagner)
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 23:11:35 -0500
Subject: [simpits-tech] Dzus Rails (again)
In-Reply-To: <0KM600L7XN35KA30@smtp4.clear.net.nz>
References: <0KM6009RZFZLIS20@smtp4.clear.net.nz><C14A544155C6464AA280C25607692830@flightsystems>
	<0KM600L7XN35KA30@smtp4.clear.net.nz>
Message-ID: <AC5248AE328C4E0D81694A20EE1C82AB@flightsystems>

Yeah, I don't quite have that much lying around.  I have a fair amount but
not that much I'm afraid.

I know there is a place in the states you can buy the stuff, just not sure
how much they will ding you for on shipping.  They come in 8 foot pieces
IIRC.

Jay

Show me a man who cannot be bothered to do the little things, and I will
show you a man who cannot be trusted to do the big ones.
--Lawrence Bell, Founder Bell Helicopter

-----Original Message-----
From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org
[mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Sean Galbraith
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 8:35 PM
To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Dzus Rails (again)

At 12:20 p.m. 3/07/2009, you wrote:
>How much do you need?

Gidday Jay,

I'm looking for enough to do a complete 737-300 pit... Overhead, Aft 
Overhead, MIP, Pedestal and CDU trays.... I know that's a big ask :)

Sean

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From crease-guard at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jul  2 21:13:03 2009
From: crease-guard at sbcglobal.net (Joseph Fagner)
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 23:13:03 -0500
Subject: [simpits-tech] Dzus Rails (again)
In-Reply-To: <0KM600L7XN35KA30@smtp4.clear.net.nz>
References: <0KM6009RZFZLIS20@smtp4.clear.net.nz><C14A544155C6464AA280C25607692830@flightsystems>
	<0KM600L7XN35KA30@smtp4.clear.net.nz>
Message-ID: <5B7BC6A304FF4B279AB3BE26223A943C@flightsystems>

Also, I know it would be huge PITA, but if you could list out exactly how
many pieces of what length you need to do the pit, we might be able to
scrape together enough from some different sources to meet your needs.

Jay

Show me a man who cannot be bothered to do the little things, and I will
show you a man who cannot be trusted to do the big ones.
--Lawrence Bell, Founder Bell Helicopter

-----Original Message-----
From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org
[mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Sean Galbraith
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 8:35 PM
To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Dzus Rails (again)

At 12:20 p.m. 3/07/2009, you wrote:
>How much do you need?

Gidday Jay,

I'm looking for enough to do a complete 737-300 pit... Overhead, Aft 
Overhead, MIP, Pedestal and CDU trays.... I know that's a big ask :)

Sean

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From sean.g at paradise.net.nz  Thu Jul  2 21:29:00 2009
From: sean.g at paradise.net.nz (Sean Galbraith)
Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:29:00 +1200
Subject: [simpits-tech] Dzus Rails (again)
In-Reply-To: <5B7BC6A304FF4B279AB3BE26223A943C@flightsystems>
References: <0KM6009RZFZLIS20@smtp4.clear.net.nz>
	<C14A544155C6464AA280C25607692830@flightsystems>
	<0KM600L7XN35KA30@smtp4.clear.net.nz>
	<5B7BC6A304FF4B279AB3BE26223A943C@flightsystems>
Message-ID: <0KM6006Y9V4GHC30@smtp3.clear.net.nz>

At 04:13 p.m. 3/07/2009, you wrote:
>Also, I know it would be huge PITA, but if you could list out exactly how
>many pieces of what length you need to do the pit, we might be able to
>scrape together enough from some different sources to meet your needs.

I am open to anything at the moment :)  I am rapidly putting together 
the cad drawings for the panels, when I get some quantities together 
I'll send through a list.
Do you have the name of a supplier in the US that I could get it 
from, at this point I am getting beyond the point of caring about 
shipping costs ;-)

SeanG


From bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil  Thu Jul  2 21:45:03 2009
From: bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil (Brian Sikkema)
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 00:45:03 -0400
Subject: [simpits-tech] So THAT'S how they set those records....
Message-ID: <812078664ed44dd78f890e6c5cba6739.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil>

First, for a little background. For those of you who
aren't aware, the KC-135R holds a variety of
time-to-climb records for a couple of weight classes,
all viewable here:
http://records.fai.org/general_aviation/aircraft.asp?id=965

Just for an example, for the 45,000-60,000kg weight
class (~100k-132k lbs), the record to 15,000m (just
shy of 50,000 feet) is just 8 minutes, 15 seconds -
an AVERAGE of just under 6000fpm! That's completely
retarded fast, if you hadn't noticed....

Anywho, yesterday I was supposed to have a sim along
with another new copilot and an instructor. Due to a
scheduling mixup our instructor couldn't make it...
So there I sit with this other young Lt. Neither of
us is qualified to operate the sim, but the
maintenance guy there basically shrugged his
shoulders and said as long as we left the motion off
and didn't do anything crazy, she was all ours! >:D
Imagine two young copilots getting tossed the keys to
a multi-million dollar high-fidelity sim and being
told "have at it!" :) Fun times, I tell ya.

Anyway, for the first 1 1/2 hours or so we kept
things pretty vanilla, just practicing our approach
and landing work, a few VFR patterns, etc. But then
we decided to have some fun before we hopped out.

So we put it on the runway ready for takeoff, and
dropped it down to a 20,000lb fuel load - for
reference, our max fuel load is 200,000, and we are
supposed to plan to LAND with 20-25k. Min fuel is
14k, emergency is 10. Then we did a static,
takeoff-rated thrust (full throttle, essentially)
30-flap takeoff.....






I damn near wet myself.


That jet got off the ground so fast it made my head
spin. I totally forgot to call for the gear because I
was just in awe of what was happening - and we STILL
climbed out at almost 30 degrees nose high, never
hitting much more than .4 AOA (with 1.0 being a full
stall, .6 being our standard approach AOA).

I never even thought to look at my VSI, I was too
busy saying "Holy !@#$" over and over again in my
head. It was a religious experience, let me tell you....

So then we had to do it again, naturally! :) Still
just as jaw-dropping the second time.

I'm gonna have to do it again someday, with a video
camera in tow... I'd love to actually record the
numbers of just exactly what happened. Back at Altus
they had a recording setup that would take all the
data plus video from several different angles.
Unfortunately I don't think they have that setup here...

Good times, good times. :)

Brian


From raysot at comcast.net  Thu Jul  2 22:51:55 2009
From: raysot at comcast.net (Ray Sotkiewicz)
Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 22:51:55 -0700
Subject: [simpits-tech] So THAT'S how they set those records....
In-Reply-To: <812078664ed44dd78f890e6c5cba6739.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil>
References: <812078664ed44dd78f890e6c5cba6739.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil>
Message-ID: <4A4D9C7B.9000601@comcast.net>

Well.. it's official... "You suck" !

Nice experience though...  I flew the F/A-18 and EA-6B sims during my 
time and the experience lives with me to this day.






Brian Sikkema wrote:
> First, for a little background. For those of you who
> aren't aware, the KC-135R holds a variety of
> time-to-climb records for a couple of weight classes,
> all viewable here:
> http://records.fai.org/general_aviation/aircraft.asp?id=965
>
> Just for an example, for the 45,000-60,000kg weight
> class (~100k-132k lbs), the record to 15,000m (just
> shy of 50,000 feet) is just 8 minutes, 15 seconds -
> an AVERAGE of just under 6000fpm! That's completely
> retarded fast, if you hadn't noticed....
>
> Anywho, yesterday I was supposed to have a sim along
> with another new copilot and an instructor. Due to a
> scheduling mixup our instructor couldn't make it...
> So there I sit with this other young Lt. Neither of
> us is qualified to operate the sim, but the
> maintenance guy there basically shrugged his
> shoulders and said as long as we left the motion off
> and didn't do anything crazy, she was all ours! >:D
> Imagine two young copilots getting tossed the keys to
> a multi-million dollar high-fidelity sim and being
> told "have at it!" :) Fun times, I tell ya.
>
> Anyway, for the first 1 1/2 hours or so we kept
> things pretty vanilla, just practicing our approach
> and landing work, a few VFR patterns, etc. But then
> we decided to have some fun before we hopped out.
>
> So we put it on the runway ready for takeoff, and
> dropped it down to a 20,000lb fuel load - for
> reference, our max fuel load is 200,000, and we are
> supposed to plan to LAND with 20-25k. Min fuel is
> 14k, emergency is 10. Then we did a static,
> takeoff-rated thrust (full throttle, essentially)
> 30-flap takeoff.....
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I damn near wet myself.
>
>
> That jet got off the ground so fast it made my head
> spin. I totally forgot to call for the gear because I
> was just in awe of what was happening - and we STILL
> climbed out at almost 30 degrees nose high, never
> hitting much more than .4 AOA (with 1.0 being a full
> stall, .6 being our standard approach AOA).
>
> I never even thought to look at my VSI, I was too
> busy saying "Holy !@#$" over and over again in my
> head. It was a religious experience, let me tell you....
>
> So then we had to do it again, naturally! :) Still
> just as jaw-dropping the second time.
>
> I'm gonna have to do it again someday, with a video
> camera in tow... I'd love to actually record the
> numbers of just exactly what happened. Back at Altus
> they had a recording setup that would take all the
> data plus video from several different angles.
> Unfortunately I don't think they have that setup here...
>
> Good times, good times. :)
>
> Brian
>
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From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Fri Jul  3 06:55:42 2009
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 14:55:42 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] So THAT'S how they set those records....
In-Reply-To: <4A4D9C7B.9000601@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907031455260.23116-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Thu, 2 Jul 2009, Ray Sotkiewicz wrote:

> Well.. it's official... "You suck" !
>

Amen to that !!


Nice going Brian - you lucky sod !

--

Roy Coates.
Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From geneb at deltasoft.com  Mon Jul  6 08:29:39 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 08:29:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Beta Innovations resurfaces...kinda.
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907060823160.2393@grumble.deltasoft.com>


It appears that while Beta Innovations is "gone", their products are not.

Recently, it was pointed out to me that many of the old BI product line 
was available here: http://www.737yoke.com/products2.html

The interesting thing about this is that the prices are now a LOT higher 
than what they were from Beta Innovations.  For example, the Plasma-MM2 
was original $39 from Beta Innovations and is now $149 from "ACE".
The Electron Flux that I bought for under $400, is now a whopping $1195. 
Amazing.

g.

-- 
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!

From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Mon Jul  6 09:36:27 2009
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 17:36:27 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Beta Innovations resurfaces...kinda.
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907060823160.2393@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907061735490.28367-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Mon, 6 Jul 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:


The difference between an enthusiast and a capitalist is all about decimal
places then eh?

*sigh*


>
> It appears that while Beta Innovations is "gone", their products are not.
>
> Recently, it was pointed out to me that many of the old BI product line
> was available here: http://www.737yoke.com/products2.html
>
> The interesting thing about this is that the prices are now a LOT higher
> than what they were from Beta Innovations.  For example, the Plasma-MM2
> was original $39 from Beta Innovations and is now $149 from "ACE".
> The Electron Flux that I bought for under $400, is now a whopping $1195.
> Amazing.
>
> g.
>
> --
> Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
> http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
>
> ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
> A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
> http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!
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--

Roy Coates.
Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From geneb at deltasoft.com  Mon Jul  6 08:58:26 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 08:58:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Beta Innovations resurfaces...kinda.
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907061735490.28367-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907061735490.28367-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907060841040.2652@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Mon, 6 Jul 2009, Roy Coates wrote:

> On Mon, 6 Jul 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:
>
>
> The difference between an enthusiast and a capitalist is all about decimal
> places then eh?
>
It's entirely possible that he sold the product line to this new outfit, 
but somehow I doubt it.  He's always had a very combative relationship 
with the simulator community.  I think it started when he over-committed 
on hardware production based on community input and when the sales didn't 
materialize, he nearly went under.  I suspect he blamed the community for 
that and any troubles since.  Had he made a smaller commitment in 
hardware, I think things would have come out much differently.  Had he 
spent the time to do the research, it would have become quite apparent 
that what the "community" says it will do and what it actually *does* tend 
to be two different things when money is involved. :)  Another good rule 
to follow is "cash in advance". ;)

What kills me is the fact that the BI hardware is so damn *good*.  The 
only true competition he had commercially was EPIC and that's still a 
fantastic platform.

There's some work being done with the PHCC hardware line to bring it 
closer to something a non-hardcore geek can handle, which will be good 
for all of us.

The good thing about BI going away is the surge in uptake of the PHCC 
hardware (http://phcc.varxec.net/wiki/Main_Page for those that aren't 
familiar with it) within the F-16 cockpit building community over at 
viperpits.org.  Those guys have made huge strides in using the stuff that 
Manuel Bessler has created.  The only down side is that there are not 
(yet) pre-assembled boards available.  I'm sure it won't be long though. 
Even as kits, they're easy to solder up and have no surface mount parts. 
I've built some of the hardware, but I haven't had a chance to do more 
than smoke test it after assembly.

I'm seriously considering tearing out all the BI hardware support from my 
CIM application and replacing it with support for the PHCC serial protocol 
and possibly adding EPIC support.  Mike Powell's new book has been sent 
off to the publisher and he's got a ton of electronic projects that I 
could support as well.  He's designed a cheap digital to synchro converter 
that I've been lusting after from the moment he posted pictures of it. :) 
That project is the only way the ADI & HSI in my F-15 will ever operate.

g.



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From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Mon Jul  6 10:32:01 2009
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 18:32:01 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Beta Innovations resurfaces...kinda.
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907060841040.2652@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907061830230.28367-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Mon, 6 Jul 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:


Never mind all that.  What fries my onions is that here in the UK we pay
in UKP what you guys pay in USD.  So a $100 I/O card for you costs us more
like $160 for the same thing.

Thank God for Leo Bodnar !!   :-)



> On Mon, 6 Jul 2009, Roy Coates wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 6 Jul 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:
> >
> >
> > The difference between an enthusiast and a capitalist is all about decimal
> > places then eh?
> >
> It's entirely possible that he sold the product line to this new outfit,
> but somehow I doubt it.  He's always had a very combative relationship
> with the simulator community.  I think it started when he over-committed
> on hardware production based on community input and when the sales didn't
> materialize, he nearly went under.  I suspect he blamed the community for
> that and any troubles since.  Had he made a smaller commitment in
> hardware, I think things would have come out much differently.  Had he
> spent the time to do the research, it would have become quite apparent
> that what the "community" says it will do and what it actually *does* tend
> to be two different things when money is involved. :)  Another good rule
> to follow is "cash in advance". ;)
>
> What kills me is the fact that the BI hardware is so damn *good*.  The
> only true competition he had commercially was EPIC and that's still a
> fantastic platform.
>
> There's some work being done with the PHCC hardware line to bring it
> closer to something a non-hardcore geek can handle, which will be good
> for all of us.
>
> The good thing about BI going away is the surge in uptake of the PHCC
> hardware (http://phcc.varxec.net/wiki/Main_Page for those that aren't
> familiar with it) within the F-16 cockpit building community over at
> viperpits.org.  Those guys have made huge strides in using the stuff that
> Manuel Bessler has created.  The only down side is that there are not
> (yet) pre-assembled boards available.  I'm sure it won't be long though.
> Even as kits, they're easy to solder up and have no surface mount parts.
> I've built some of the hardware, but I haven't had a chance to do more
> than smoke test it after assembly.
>
> I'm seriously considering tearing out all the BI hardware support from my
> CIM application and replacing it with support for the PHCC serial protocol
> and possibly adding EPIC support.  Mike Powell's new book has been sent
> off to the publisher and he's got a ton of electronic projects that I
> could support as well.  He's designed a cheap digital to synchro converter
> that I've been lusting after from the moment he posted pictures of it. :)
> That project is the only way the ADI & HSI in my F-15 will ever operate.
>
> g.
>
>
>
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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Mon Jul  6 09:34:30 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 09:34:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Beta Innovations resurfaces...kinda.
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907061830230.28367-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907061830230.28367-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907060932180.3363@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Mon, 6 Jul 2009, Roy Coates wrote:

> On Mon, 6 Jul 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:
>
>
> Never mind all that.  What fries my onions is that here in the UK we pay
> in UKP what you guys pay in USD.  So a $100 I/O card for you costs us more
> like $160 for the same thing.
>
I think that's just because the vendors are too lazy to do proper currency 
conversion and they take the USD price and slap a Pounds Sterling symbol 
in front of it. :)

> Thank God for Leo Bodnar !!   :-)
>
No doubt.  I've heard nothing but good things about his input boards. 
There is one of them that is functionally identical to the Plasma-MM2 
that's very nice and priced under $40.

I should get one and write up a review of it one of these days.

g.

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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Mon Jul  6 09:37:37 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 09:37:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] load cell amp...
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907060936570.3422@grumble.deltasoft.com>

Roy, have you seen this:

http://www.leobodnar.com/products/LC-amp/

Will this work for your project?

At $15, it would be a cheap experiment. :)

g.


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From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Mon Jul  6 10:47:11 2009
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 18:47:11 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Beta Innovations resurfaces...kinda.
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907060932180.3363@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907061846510.28367-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Mon, 6 Jul 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:

> > Thank God for Leo Bodnar !!   :-)
> >
> No doubt.  I've heard nothing but good things about his input boards.
> There is one of them that is functionally identical to the Plasma-MM2
> that's very nice and priced under $40.
>
> I should get one and write up a review of it one of these days.



I've just ordered one - will let you know how it plays out.


--

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Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From geneb at deltasoft.com  Mon Jul  6 09:46:18 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 09:46:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Beta Innovations resurfaces...kinda.
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907061846510.28367-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907061846510.28367-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907060946001.3555@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Mon, 6 Jul 2009, Roy Coates wrote:

> On Mon, 6 Jul 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:
>
>>> Thank God for Leo Bodnar !!   :-)
>>>
>> No doubt.  I've heard nothing but good things about his input boards.
>> There is one of them that is functionally identical to the Plasma-MM2
>> that's very nice and priced under $40.
>>
>> I should get one and write up a review of it one of these days.
>
>
> I've just ordered one - will let you know how it plays out.
>

Ahh, cool.  Thanks.

g.

-- 
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http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
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From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Mon Jul  6 10:50:33 2009
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 18:50:33 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] load cell amp...
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907060936570.3422@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907061848590.28367-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Mon, 6 Jul 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:

> Roy, have you seen this:
>
> http://www.leobodnar.com/products/LC-amp/
>
> Will this work for your project?
>

Interesting - esp for the F-16 guys I suspect.

I have luckily found a Hann caged-pot assembly in my "bits box" that will
do the Eurofighter stick for me so have already progressed that route.
That used LVDT's anyway, not load cells.

When you see interesting toys like this you just can't help slipping off
into fantasy land to find a project to use it with !


--

Roy Coates.
Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From geneb at deltasoft.com  Mon Jul  6 10:04:03 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 10:04:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] load cell amp...
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907061848590.28367-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907061848590.28367-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907060959290.3756@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Mon, 6 Jul 2009, Roy Coates wrote:

> On Mon, 6 Jul 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:
>
>> Roy, have you seen this:
>>
>> http://www.leobodnar.com/products/LC-amp/
>>
>> Will this work for your project?
>>
>
> Interesting - esp for the F-16 guys I suspect.
>
> I have luckily found a Hann caged-pot assembly in my "bits box" that will
> do the Eurofighter stick for me so have already progressed that route.
> That used LVDT's anyway, not load cells.
>
Ahh, ok.  My understanding of what an LVDT is was faulty.

> When you see interesting toys like this you just can't help slipping off
> into fantasy land to find a project to use it with !
>
No doubt about that. :)

g.

-- 
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http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
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From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Mon Jul  6 11:14:36 2009
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 19:14:36 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] load cell amp...
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907060959290.3756@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907061912141.28367-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Mon, 6 Jul 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:

> > I have luckily found a Hann caged-pot assembly in my "bits box" that will
> > do the Eurofighter stick for me so have already progressed that route.
> > That used LVDT's anyway, not load cells.
> >
> Ahh, ok.  My understanding of what an LVDT is was faulty.


There seem to be a new breed of DC LVDT's but my understanding of the
typical setup is that you feed an AC signal into coil A, and then read
that signal back from coil B.  The magnet which forms the moving part of
the device causes a phase-shift between input and output - it is this that
gives you your position, normally presented as a voltage thanks to the
clever black boxes you normally hang these things on.

Anyone know anything about the uber-sweet new hall-effect devices that can
be used as a straight swap for pots?

Hmm... toys....

--

Roy Coates.
Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From geneb at deltasoft.com  Mon Jul  6 10:33:57 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 10:33:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] load cell amp...
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907061912141.28367-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907061912141.28367-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907061020510.4101@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Mon, 6 Jul 2009, Roy Coates wrote:

> There seem to be a new breed of DC LVDT's but my understanding of the
> typical setup is that you feed an AC signal into coil A, and then read
> that signal back from coil B.  The magnet which forms the moving part of
> the device causes a phase-shift between input and output - it is this that
> gives you your position, normally presented as a voltage thanks to the
> clever black boxes you normally hang these things on.
>
Right.  My (faulty) understand was that they were a form of load cell. 
Google rapped my knuckles about that. :)

> Anyone know anything about the uber-sweet new hall-effect devices that can
> be used as a straight swap for pots?
>

They're not that new.  Hall effect based replacements for pots have been 
around quite a while.  In Mike Powell's new book, he's got a project that 
uses a device called "A1301 hall sensor".  It's a three wire part, very 
similar in size to a 2N2222 transistor.  He uses it as a 0..5V voltage 
divider.  When he first posted info about it, I bought 5 of them from 
DigiKey and they were less than a buck each.  If you head over to his site 
(http://www.mikesflightdeck.com/) and scroll down a bit (or search for 
"A1301" you can see how he's using it.  If you scroll to the bottom of the 
page and click on the "previous rants" link you will find a little more 
info on it under "Position Sensors Chapter Revisions" about the middle of 
the page.

As far as I can tell, you can use these devices as a direct replacement 
for a 5v based voltage dividing pot.

I know that there has been a lot of success in replacing the jitter-prone 
pots in the Cougar stick with a couple of hall effect devices.  I think 
there is someone selling a refit kit for something like $60, but this was 
some time ago.

g.

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From allendc at qwest.net  Mon Jul  6 11:02:18 2009
From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen)
Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 12:02:18 -0600
Subject: [simpits-tech] Hall Effect  was Re:  load cell amp...
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907061912141.28367-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.a c.uk>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907060959290.3756@grumble.deltasoft.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.44.0907061912141.28367-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <20090706180224.2897153BE34@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net>

The MAB25A 12 0505 is a 12 bit 360 degree ratiometric 0-5v sensor

http://www.megatron.de/export/DB_MAB25A_engl.pdf

David
www.737FlightSim.com


At 07:14 PM 7/6/2009 +0100, you wrote:
>On Mon, 6 Jul 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:
>
> > > I have luckily found a Hann caged-pot assembly in my "bits box" that will
> > > do the Eurofighter stick for me so have already progressed that route.
> > > That used LVDT's anyway, not load cells.
> > >
> > Ahh, ok.  My understanding of what an LVDT is was faulty.
>
>
>There seem to be a new breed of DC LVDT's but my understanding of the
>typical setup is that you feed an AC signal into coil A, and then read
>that signal back from coil B.  The magnet which forms the moving part of
>the device causes a phase-shift between input and output - it is this that
>gives you your position, normally presented as a voltage thanks to the
>clever black boxes you normally hang these things on.
>
>Anyone know anything about the uber-sweet new hall-effect devices that can
>be used as a straight swap for pots?
>
>Hmm... toys....
>
>--
>
>Roy Coates.
>Dept of Engineering.
>Liverpool University.
>E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
>Tel: 0151 794 4862
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From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Mon Jul  6 12:39:23 2009
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 20:39:23 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Hall Effect  was Re:  load cell amp...
In-Reply-To: <20090706180224.2897153BE34@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907062038560.28367-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Mon, 6 Jul 2009, David C. Allen wrote:

> The MAB25A 12 0505 is a 12 bit 360 degree ratiometric 0-5v sensor
>
> http://www.megatron.de/export/DB_MAB25A_engl.pdf
>


*wince*  what's a ratiometric 0-5v sensor?


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E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
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From allendc at qwest.net  Mon Jul  6 11:41:08 2009
From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen)
Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 12:41:08 -0600
Subject: [simpits-tech] Hall Effect  was Re:  load cell amp...
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907062038560.28367-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.a c.uk>
References: <20090706180224.2897153BE34@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net>
	<Pine.LNX.4.44.0907062038560.28367-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <20090706184204.7197853BD16@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net>

ratiometric big word for a solid state voltage divider.

0 degrees rotation = 0 v
180 degrees rotation = 2.5v
360 degrees rotation = 5v

At 08:39 PM 7/6/2009 +0100, you wrote:
>On Mon, 6 Jul 2009, David C. Allen wrote:
>
> > The MAB25A 12 0505 is a 12 bit 360 degree ratiometric 0-5v sensor
> >
> > http://www.megatron.de/export/DB_MAB25A_engl.pdf
> >
>
>
>*wince*  what's a ratiometric 0-5v sensor?
>
>
>--
>
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>Dept of Engineering.
>Liverpool University.
>E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
>Tel: 0151 794 4862
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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Mon Jul  6 13:08:08 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:08:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Hall Effect  was Re:  load cell amp...
In-Reply-To: <20090706180224.2897153BE34@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907060959290.3756@grumble.deltasoft.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.44.0907061912141.28367-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
	<20090706180224.2897153BE34@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907061307570.6215@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Mon, 6 Jul 2009, David C. Allen wrote:

> The MAB25A 12 0505 is a 12 bit 360 degree ratiometric 0-5v sensor
>
> http://www.megatron.de/export/DB_MAB25A_engl.pdf
>
How much are they?

g.

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From jjmessenger at yahoo.com  Mon Jul  6 18:52:54 2009
From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger)
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 18:52:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] new EPIC gauge expansion
Message-ID: <512750.94525.qm@web111502.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>



--- On Mon, 7/6/09, Ralph Robinson(R&R Electronics) <rrelect at frontiernet.net> wrote:


From: Ralph Robinson(R&R Electronics) <rrelect at frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Fw: EPIC expansion
To: "Justin Messenger" <heritageaviation at yahoo.com>
Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 7:06 PM




?
I have a new gauge module getting ready to go to have a second prototype made. 
This is 12bit, unipolar, bipolar, and constant current. This will do 2 phase aircore also.
?
?
__________
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R&R Electronics
rrelect at mindspring.com
http://www.mindspring.com/~rrelect
?


      
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From: bass.pumped at gmail.com (bass pumped)
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 00:47:14 -0500
Subject: [simpits-tech] LVDT's Anyone ?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907012332270.20313-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0906301301210.8052@grumble.deltasoft.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.44.0907012332270.20313-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
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http://www.deltatechcontrols.com/products/joysticks_main.html

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Roy Coates <roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk> wrote:

> On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:
>
> > > I'm working on a cockpit previously used to develop stuff for the
> > > Eurofighter Typhoon and it's LVDT equipped.
> > >
> > *gasps*
> >
> > You lucky so and so!
> >
> > Good catch, Roy. :)
> >
> > Got any pics?
>
>
> Good catch?  Hmmm... very debatable that one.  They've not left me much to
> work with!
>
> I took a few pics yesterdat - will get them online shortly.
>
> Roy.
>
>
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> Dept of Engineering.
> Liverpool University.
> E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
> Tel: 0151 794 4862
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> meter.
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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Tue Jul  7 11:09:39 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 11:09:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] LVDT's Anyone ?
In-Reply-To: <f7f5a9670907062247o7af1a3fdsbdd7c26ff4f53de3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0906301301210.8052@grumble.deltasoft.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.44.0907012332270.20313-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
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Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907071107220.17751@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Tue, 7 Jul 2009, bass pumped wrote:

> http://www.deltatechcontrols.com/products/joysticks_main.html
>
Nice.  The lack of pricing information scares me.  (and don't top post)

g.

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From catalina299 at gmail.com  Mon Jul  6 11:57:15 2009
From: catalina299 at gmail.com (William Segal)
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 11:57:15 -0700
Subject: [simpits-tech] Anyone,any where ?
Message-ID: <3a0a6c680907061157g7fd9021atb80048e24458f882@mail.gmail.com>

I am looking for Leo Bodnar has anyone anywhere received
Technical support from him recently . Directly from him personally?

I can't find the man and I have issues with his joy stick controller.

It will not hold configuration.

To my knowledge we have not found anything at "SIM HQ" Either?

Regards

Bill
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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Tue Jul  7 12:29:21 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 12:29:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Anyone,any where ?
In-Reply-To: <3a0a6c680907061157g7fd9021atb80048e24458f882@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3a0a6c680907061157g7fd9021atb80048e24458f882@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907071214330.18191@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Mon, 6 Jul 2009, William Segal wrote:

> I am looking for Leo Bodnar has anyone anywhere received
> Technical support from him recently . Directly from him personally?
>
> I can't find the man and I have issues with his joy stick controller.
>
> It will not hold configuration.
>
> To my knowledge we have not found anything at "SIM HQ" Either?
>

Bill, I pointed you at the SimHQ forum, expecting you to actually *ask* 
for help.  You haven't posted anything in their Pit Builder's forum, nor 
have you posted anything on Bodnar's support forum.  It doesn't surprise 
me at all you're having problems getting help.  I can tell you right now 
that someone asked about a Vista problem they had with their BU0386 device 
and Leo answered the question within two days:

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2726403/Windows_7_vista_bu0386_problem.html#Post2726403


g.



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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Tue Jul  7 12:29:21 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 12:29:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Anyone,any where ?
In-Reply-To: <3a0a6c680907061157g7fd9021atb80048e24458f882@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3a0a6c680907061157g7fd9021atb80048e24458f882@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907071214330.18191@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Mon, 6 Jul 2009, William Segal wrote:

> I am looking for Leo Bodnar has anyone anywhere received
> Technical support from him recently . Directly from him personally?
>
> I can't find the man and I have issues with his joy stick controller.
>
> It will not hold configuration.
>
> To my knowledge we have not found anything at "SIM HQ" Either?
>

Bill, I pointed you at the SimHQ forum, expecting you to actually *ask* 
for help.  You haven't posted anything in their Pit Builder's forum, nor 
have you posted anything on Bodnar's support forum.  It doesn't surprise 
me at all you're having problems getting help.  I can tell you right now 
that someone asked about a Vista problem they had with their BU0386 device 
and Leo answered the question within two days:

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2726403/Windows_7_vista_bu0386_problem.html#Post2726403


g.



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From phoenixcomm at gmail.com  Wed Jul  8 19:48:46 2009
From: phoenixcomm at gmail.com (Cris Harrison)
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 21:48:46 -0500
Subject: [simpits-tech] Machine Shop Prototyping Services Available.
Message-ID: <003701ca003f$c8fa7fc0$5aef7f40$@com>

Hi Guys

Sorry for the plug for commercialism, I can now offer the following for your
prototyping of your favorite pit!

 

We have just acquired the a machine shop with the following equipment:

1.       Surface grinder

2.        Vertical Miller (2)

3.       Lathe

4.       CNC Turret Lathe, Work Center 

 

Send me a drawing for a fast quote.

 

Thank you.

 

Cris Harrison

www.phoenixcomm.net/~phnx2000/sim

 

We are what we repeatedly do.  Excellence, therefore, is not an act, but a
habit. 

Aristotle 

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Shipping / Billing Address: 1035N Interstate Highway 35E Suite 200,
Carollton, Texas 75006 USA

 

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From cyplesma at aol.com  Wed Jul  8 20:15:41 2009
From: cyplesma at aol.com (cyplesma at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 23:15:41 -0400
Subject: [simpits-tech] Machine Shop Prototyping Services Available.
In-Reply-To: <003701ca003f$c8fa7fc0$5aef7f40$@com>
References: <003701ca003f$c8fa7fc0$5aef7f40$@com>
Message-ID: <8CBCE5AACE6E00C-894-2202@WEBMAIL-MY19.sysops.aol.com>


 



Hi Guys



Sorry for the plug for commercialism, I can now offer the
following for your prototyping of your favorite pit!



?



We have just acquired the a machine shop with the following
equipment:



1.??????
Surface grinder



2.??????
?Vertical Miller (2)



3.??????
Lathe



4.??????
CNC Turret Lathe, Work Center 



?



Send me a drawing for a fast quote.


 
Not that I have anything for ya, but...
What's the preferred drawing format?


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Cris Harrison <phoenixcomm at gmail.com>
To: Simpits-tech at simpits.org
Sent: Wed, Jul 8, 2009 10:48 pm
Subject: [simpits-tech] Machine Shop Prototyping Services Available.






















Hi Guys



Sorry for the plug for commercialism, I can now offer the
following for your prototyping of your favorite pit!



?



We have just acquired the a machine shop with the following
equipment:



1.??????
Surface grinder



2.??????
?Vertical Miller (2)



3.??????
Lathe



4.??????
CNC Turret Lathe, Work Center 



?



Send me a drawing for a fast quote.



?



Thank you.



?



Cris Harrison



www.phoenixcomm.net/~phnx2000/sim



?



We are what we repeatedly do.??Excellence, therefore, is
not an act, but a habit. 



Aristotle 



www.phoenixtrading.biz
/ www.phoenixcomm.net



Shipping /
Billing Address: 1035N
Interstate Highway 35E Suite 200, Carollton, Texas 75006 USA



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From phoenixcomm at gmail.com  Wed Jul  8 22:24:30 2009
From: phoenixcomm at gmail.com (Cris Harrison)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 00:24:30 -0500
Subject: [simpits-tech] Machine Shop Prototyping Services Available.
In-Reply-To: <8CBCE5AACE6E00C-894-2202@WEBMAIL-MY19.sysops.aol.com>
References: <003701ca003f$c8fa7fc0$5aef7f40$@com>
	<8CBCE5AACE6E00C-894-2202@WEBMAIL-MY19.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <004801ca0055$8ab99a00$a02cce00$@com>

Well, a back of a napkin will do, a sketch, Auto Cad, PDF.

That's right you send me the drawing and tell me the file type. And I will
try to open it.

 

 

From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org
[mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of cyplesma at aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:16 PM
To: simpits-tech at simpits.org
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Machine Shop Prototyping Services Available.

 

 

Hi Guys

Sorry for the plug for commercialism, I can now offer the following for your
prototyping of your favorite pit!

 

We have just acquired the a machine shop with the following equipment:

1.       Surface grinder

2.        Vertical Miller (2)

3.       Lathe

4.       CNC Turret Lathe, Work Center 

 

Send me a drawing for a fast quote.


Not that I have anything for ya, but...
What's the preferred drawing format?

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Cris Harrison <phoenixcomm at gmail.com>
To: Simpits-tech at simpits.org
Sent: Wed, Jul 8, 2009 10:48 pm
Subject: [simpits-tech] Machine Shop Prototyping Services Available.

Hi Guys

Sorry for the plug for commercialism, I can now offer the following for your
prototyping of your favorite pit!

 

We have just acquired the a machine shop with the following equipment:

1.       Surface grinder

2.        Vertical Miller (2)

3.       Lathe

4.       CNC Turret Lathe, Work Center 

 

Send me a drawing for a fast quote.

 

Thank you.

 

Cris Harrison

 <http://www.phoenixcomm.net/%7Ephnx2000/sim>
www.phoenixcomm.net/~phnx2000/sim

 

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From bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil  Fri Jul 10 06:17:14 2009
From: bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil (Brian Sikkema)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:17:14 -0400
Subject: [simpits-tech] X52 Pro
Message-ID: <b9c31fb9f9654c688cbf134623ac487c.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil>

So I've got my X52 Pro finally.

All I can say is HOT DAMN! :) This is one sweet stick...

Much more than I'd hoped for. My wife is even excited
about it - mainly because of the fact that A) There
are far fewer cords than my old setup and B) since
it's USB and hot-pluggable, the cords disappear as
soon as I put the stick away. :)

Anyway, well worth the money, IMHO... As long as it
lasts. I think, though, based on my previous Saitek
experience, it will.

Brian


From geneb at deltasoft.com  Sat Jul 11 09:47:16 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 09:47:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] time lapse construction...
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907110946560.875@grumble.deltasoft.com>

...of an F/A-18

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=be5_1247196550

g.


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From catalina299 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 13 19:05:30 2009
From: catalina299 at gmail.com (William Segal)
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 19:05:30 -0700
Subject: [simpits-tech] time lapse construction...
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907110946560.875@grumble.deltasoft.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907110946560.875@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <3a0a6c680907131905h6ec8d329rd4b06366fa4e036a@mail.gmail.com>

Gene
We got it 1680x1050 x3 P00 pixels wide all scenery
just lucky I guess now for the panel monitor which I ordered today
and I 'll will be almost done.

Regards

Bill

On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Gene Buckle <geneb at deltasoft.com> wrote:

> ...of an F/A-18
>
> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i?5_1247196550
>
> g.
>
>
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>
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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Tue Jul 14 21:56:59 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:56:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] time lapse construction...
In-Reply-To: <3a0a6c680907131905h6ec8d329rd4b06366fa4e036a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907110946560.875@grumble.deltasoft.com>
	<3a0a6c680907131905h6ec8d329rd4b06366fa4e036a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907142150320.14310@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Mon, 13 Jul 2009, William Segal wrote:

> Gene
> We got it 1680x1050 x3 =5000 pixels wide all scenery
> just lucky I guess now for the panel monitor which I ordered today
> and I 'll will be almost done.
>

Glad to hear it!  Pics!  Pics! :)


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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Tue Jul 14 09:22:16 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:22:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] A mech cockpit...
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907140921410.2737@grumble.deltasoft.com>

This is actually pretty cool:

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2286818/23/STICKY_Please_show_off_your_pi.html

g.


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From pcnd at msn.com  Tue Jul 14 15:57:02 2009
From: pcnd at msn.com (george giordano)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:57:02 -0700
Subject: [simpits-tech] A mech cockpit...
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907140921410.2737@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <1fc.4a5d0d3d@www.simpits.org>



thank you Gene , 

From geneb at deltasoft.com  Tue Jul 14 20:37:14 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:37:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] A mech cockpit...
In-Reply-To: <1fc.4a5d0d3d@www.simpits.org>
References: <1fc.4a5d0d3d@www.simpits.org>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907142036450.5463@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Tue, 14 Jul 2009, george giordano wrote:

>
>
> thank you Gene ,
> _______________________________________________

You're quite welcome George!  More pictures! :)

g.

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From bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil  Wed Jul 15 03:55:40 2009
From: bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil (Brian Sikkema)
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 06:55:40 -0400
Subject: [simpits-tech] A mech cockpit...
Message-ID: <63e462922c3a436791f41b727b96c372.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil>

Is that a P5 glove I see in there?

I used to have one of those. Got very disappointed
with the lack of support for it, though.... What are
you using it for?

Brian


From phoenixcomm at gmail.com  Wed Jul 15 10:23:16 2009
From: phoenixcomm at gmail.com (Cris Harrison)
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:23:16 -0500
Subject: [simpits-tech] A mech cockpit...
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907140921410.2737@grumble.deltasoft.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907140921410.2737@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <000c01ca0570$f11ebd00$d35c3700$@com>

WICKED!!
Now does it walk???? (that would be cool)
Cris
www.phoenixcomm.net/~phnx2000/sim
www.phoenixaerospace.us

-----Original Message-----
From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org
[mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Gene Buckle
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 11:22 AM
To: simpits-tech at simpits.org
Subject: [simpits-tech] A mech cockpit...

This is actually pretty cool:

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2286818/23/STICKY_Please_show_o
ff_your_pi.html

g.


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From pcnd at msn.com  Wed Jul 15 14:44:02 2009
From: pcnd at msn.com (george giordano)
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:44:02 -0700
Subject: [simpits-tech] A mech cockpit...
In-Reply-To: <000c01ca0570$f11ebd00$d35c3700$@com>
Message-ID: <200.4a5e4da2@www.simpits.org>



nope she dont walk , yes it would be cool , but than she woundnt be a SIMULATOR !!!! lol anyways more pics  a little size ref , the maniquin is 6ft tall ,  and the bulkhead door into the sim  and the precut for the airlock door .. keep in mind the sim is one small part of a much larger project im building in my shop ... 

From pcnd at msn.com  Wed Jul 15 18:00:28 2009
From: pcnd at msn.com (george giordano)
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 18:00:28 -0700
Subject: [simpits-tech] A mech cockpit...
In-Reply-To: <63e462922c3a436791f41b727b96c372.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil>
Message-ID: <201.4a5e7bab@www.simpits.org>



yup its a p5 just use it for a mouse , i worked out the problems with it , but its still NOT great for gaming . but it makes a cool  mouse!!!! but i will give props to airlock [P5 training game and hit man ] they were fun !

From pcnd at msn.com  Sat Jul 18 21:16:34 2009
From: pcnd at msn.com (george giordano)
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 21:16:34 -0700
Subject: [simpits-tech] WIP mech simpit
In-Reply-To: <1f8.4a5ac265@www.simpits.org>
Message-ID: <202.4a629e22@www.simpits.org>



a few more pics  right side of mech , [ arm is a little tranz-gundam ].. airlock before door mount way back in may stage 1 . cockpits still ruff,  waiting on a bunch of ergo stuff

From pcnd at msn.com  Sun Jul 19 00:53:08 2009
From: pcnd at msn.com (george giordano)
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 00:53:08 -0700
Subject: [simpits-tech] WIP mech simpit
In-Reply-To: <202.4a629e22@www.simpits.org>
Message-ID: <203.4a62d0e4@www.simpits.org>



both legs are storage cabnets , left leg will also house some of the OS for the pit , the right leg is for my wifes oil paints , leg open and closed  

From raysot at comcast.net  Sun Jul 19 22:04:00 2009
From: raysot at comcast.net (Ray Sotkiewicz)
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 22:04:00 -0700
Subject: [simpits-tech] Field Trip
In-Reply-To: <201.4a5e7bab@www.simpits.org>
References: <201.4a5e7bab@www.simpits.org>
Message-ID: <4A63FAC0.2040703@comcast.net>

Gene,

We talked a few months ago about getting together at your place so we 
can drool over your project(s).

...is this weekend good for you? Maybe Sat or Sun?

Regards,
Ray Sotkiewicz

From frank at rezultat.dk  Mon Jul 20 00:13:33 2009
From: frank at rezultat.dk (Frank Riedel)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:13:33 +0200
Subject: [simpits-tech] Check out my new HUD GLASS product on ViperPit
In-Reply-To: <4A63FAC0.2040703@comcast.net>
References: <201.4a5e7bab@www.simpits.org> <4A63FAC0.2040703@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <86699E944DD544B6A839A5CC991E7977@frankzepto>

http://www.viperpits.org/smf/index.php?topic=5015.0

Regards
Frank


From geneb at deltasoft.com  Mon Jul 20 10:44:05 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:44:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Hey Roy...
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907201043310.3870@grumble.deltasoft.com>


Did that USB gadget from Leo Bodnar show up yet?  I'm curious to hear what 
you think of it.

g.


-- 
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!

From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Mon Jul 20 17:41:02 2009
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 01:41:02 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Hey Roy...
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907201043310.3870@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907210140370.15480-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Mon, 20 Jul 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:

>
> Did that USB gadget from Leo Bodnar show up yet?  I'm curious to hear what
> you think of it.
>

Leo's site is down so our girl has been unable to order it. I emailed him
but got no response.

:-(


--

Roy Coates.
Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter.
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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Mon Jul 20 19:50:42 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:50:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Hey Roy...
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907210140370.15480-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907210140370.15480-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907201949580.6268@grumble.deltasoft.com>

>> Did that USB gadget from Leo Bodnar show up yet?  I'm curious to hear what
>> you think of it.
>>
>
> Leo's site is down so our girl has been unable to order it. I emailed him
> but got no response.
>
Weird.  It was up the last time I looked at it about a week ago...

g.

-- 
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!

From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Tue Jul 21 06:50:48 2009
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:50:48 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Hey Roy...
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907201949580.6268@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907211450260.19943-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Mon, 20 Jul 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:

> > Leo's site is down so our girl has been unable to order it. I emailed him
> > but got no response.
> >
> Weird.  It was up the last time I looked at it about a week ago...
>


Not now it's not.   "This site is temporarily offline"

--

Roy Coates.
Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From geneb at deltasoft.com  Tue Jul 21 06:13:33 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 06:13:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Hey Roy...
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907211450260.19943-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907211450260.19943-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907210613010.9223@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, Roy Coates wrote:

> On Mon, 20 Jul 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:
>
>>> Leo's site is down so our girl has been unable to order it. I emailed him
>>> but got no response.
>>>
>> Weird.  It was up the last time I looked at it about a week ago...
>>
>
>
> Not now it's not.   "This site is temporarily offline"
>

The forum is still online though - http://www.leobodnar.com/forum

g.

-- 
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!

From echotech1452 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 21 06:42:30 2009
From: echotech1452 at gmail.com (delor lauchang)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 09:42:30 -0400
Subject: [simpits-tech] Check out my new HUD GLASS product on ViperPit
In-Reply-To: <86699E944DD544B6A839A5CC991E7977@frankzepto>
References: <201.4a5e7bab@www.simpits.org> <4A63FAC0.2040703@comcast.net>
	<86699E944DD544B6A839A5CC991E7977@frankzepto>
Message-ID: <ededccec0907210642x25d8b47di416734ecc7d626de@mail.gmail.com>

hi,

thats a great addon , can i give a suggestion?

to lower the market price, if you spread the use to cars displaying
important vitals, lots of racers and street cars owners would love to see
their speed and other vitals on car hud. this will revolutionize car
driving.

or sell the technology to car makers.

best regards,

delor
louisville, ky

On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 3:13 AM, Frank Riedel <frank at rezultat.dk> wrote:

> http://www.viperpits.org/smf/index.php?topicP15.0
>
> Regards
> Frank
>
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From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Tue Jul 21 07:54:36 2009
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:54:36 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Hey Roy...
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907210613010.9223@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907211554210.19943-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:

> > Not now it's not.   "This site is temporarily offline"
> >
>
> The forum is still online though - http://www.leobodnar.com/forum
>


Too busy to look atm - any news on there ?



--

Roy Coates.
Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From frank at rezultat.dk  Tue Jul 21 06:59:21 2009
From: frank at rezultat.dk (Frank Riedel)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:59:21 +0200
Subject: [simpits-tech] Check out my new HUD GLASS product on ViperPit
In-Reply-To: <ededccec0907210642x25d8b47di416734ecc7d626de@mail.gmail.com>
References: <201.4a5e7bab@www.simpits.org>
	<4A63FAC0.2040703@comcast.net><86699E944DD544B6A839A5CC991E7977@frankzepto>
	<ededccec0907210642x25d8b47di416734ecc7d626de@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DAD9C1ED0D4F4CFF84BCDED0DBD95330@frankzepto>

He
An idea ? keep in touch with market channels to use


Regards
Frank

 

  _____  

Fra: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org
[mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] P? vegne af delor lauchang
Sendt: 21. juli 2009 15:43
Til: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List
Emne: Re: [simpits-tech] Check out my new HUD GLASS product on ViperPit

 

hi,

thats a great addon , can i give a suggestion?

to lower the market price, if you spread the use to cars displaying
important vitals, lots of racers and street cars owners would love to see
their speed and other vitals on car hud. this will revolutionize car
driving.

or sell the technology to car makers.

best regards,

delor
louisville, ky

On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 3:13 AM, Frank Riedel <frank at rezultat.dk> wrote:

http://www.viperpits.org/smf/index.php?topicP15.0

Regards
Frank

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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Tue Jul 21 07:11:09 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 07:11:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Hey Roy...
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907211554210.19943-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907211554210.19943-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907210710490.9525@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, Roy Coates wrote:

> On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:
>
>>> Not now it's not.   "This site is temporarily offline"
>>>
>>
>> The forum is still online though - http://www.leobodnar.com/forum
>>
>
>
> Too busy to look atm - any news on there ?
>
Nothing posted after the 14th.  Nothing that I saw mentioned the site 
outage.

g.

-- 
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!

From jjmessenger at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 21 10:36:36 2009
From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 10:36:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] looking for 727 decompression audio clip
Message-ID: <664555.120.qm@web111504.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Im looking for?a 727/737 audio file of?the decompression warning?alarm.?
?
Thanks for any tips,?

Justin Messenger 


www.KMMH.org 
www.PhantomSim.org


      
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From catalina299 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 21 13:20:21 2009
From: catalina299 at gmail.com (William Segal)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:20:21 -0700
Subject: [simpits-tech] Hey Roy...
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907201949580.6268@grumble.deltasoft.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907210140370.15480-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk> 
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0907201949580.6268@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <3a0a6c680907211320t2ce6e0aao1e7051544e3abe40@mail.gmail.com>

Bill wrote

On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Gene Buckle <geneb at deltasoft.com> wrote:

> >> Did that USB gadget from Leo Bodnar show up yet?  I'm curious to hear
> what
> >> you think of it.
> >>
> >
> > Leo's site is down so our girl has been unable to order it. I emailed him
> > but got no response.
> >
> Weird.  It was up the last time I looked at it about a week ago...
>
> g.
>

I have emailed him every day for 13 days nada por nada guy must
be one of those things you sit on .Maybe he quit ???

Sorry Guys
had to put it  in me own words got some yiddish ones that I am saving for
my one month aniversery

Bazooka

>
> --
> Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
> http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
>
> ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
> A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
> http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!
> _______________________________________________
> Simpits-tech mailing list
> Simpits-tech at simpits.org
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From echotech1452 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 21 13:28:14 2009
From: echotech1452 at gmail.com (delor lauchang)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:28:14 -0400
Subject: [simpits-tech] Check out my new HUD GLASS product on ViperPit
In-Reply-To: <DAD9C1ED0D4F4CFF84BCDED0DBD95330@frankzepto>
References: <201.4a5e7bab@www.simpits.org> <4A63FAC0.2040703@comcast.net>
	<86699E944DD544B6A839A5CC991E7977@frankzepto>
	<ededccec0907210642x25d8b47di416734ecc7d626de@mail.gmail.com>
	<DAD9C1ED0D4F4CFF84BCDED0DBD95330@frankzepto>
Message-ID: <ededccec0907211328h468406f5x660c1f4df2594e3@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Lots of car enthusiast club exist here in the US of A, and there are lots of
car shows here that features muscle cars, drag racers, funny car racers,
NASCAR racers ( could be your big market ).

Who wans to remove their attn from the road if youre racing, regular car
drivers will also love these, to prevent speeding tickets.

Where can I see a working HUD?

regards,

Delor

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Frank Riedel <frank at rezultat.dk> wrote:

>  He
> An idea ? keep in touch with market channels to use
>
>
> Regards
> Frank
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *Fra:* simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:
> simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] *P? vegne af *delor lauchang
> *Sendt:* 21. juli 2009 15:43
> *Til:* Simulator Cockpit Builder's List
> *Emne:* Re: [simpits-tech] Check out my new HUD GLASS product on ViperPit
>
>
>
> hi,
>
> thats a great addon , can i give a suggestion?
>
> to lower the market price, if you spread the use to cars displaying
> important vitals, lots of racers and street cars owners would love to see
> their speed and other vitals on car hud. this will revolutionize car
> driving.
>
> or sell the technology to car makers.
>
> best regards,
>
> delor
> louisville, ky
>
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 3:13 AM, Frank Riedel <frank at rezultat.dk> wrote:
>
> http://www.viperpits.org/smf/index.php?topicP15.0
>
> Regards
> Frank
>
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From frank at rezultat.dk  Tue Jul 21 13:44:51 2009
From: frank at rezultat.dk (Frank Riedel)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:44:51 +0200
Subject: [simpits-tech] Check out my new HUD GLASS product on ViperPit
In-Reply-To: <ededccec0907211328h468406f5x660c1f4df2594e3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <201.4a5e7bab@www.simpits.org>
	<4A63FAC0.2040703@comcast.net><86699E944DD544B6A839A5CC991E7977@frankzepto><ededccec0907210642x25d8b47di416734ecc7d626de@mail.gmail.com><DAD9C1ED0D4F4CFF84BCDED0DBD95330@frankzepto>
	<ededccec0907211328h468406f5x660c1f4df2594e3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <22F7461917AF4F979DB03A2AB0727ECD@frankzepto>

Thanks Delor
I?ll install it with in 2 month to our F-16 simulators ? then I?ll release
pictures


Regards
Frank

 

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Fra: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org
[mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] P? vegne af delor lauchang
Sendt: 21. juli 2009 22:28
Til: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List
Emne: Re: [simpits-tech] Check out my new HUD GLASS product on ViperPit

 

Hi,

Lots of car enthusiast club exist here in the US of A, and there are lots of
car shows here that features muscle cars, drag racers, funny car racers,
NASCAR racers ( could be your big market ). 

Who wans to remove their attn from the road if youre racing, regular car
drivers will also love these, to prevent speeding tickets.

Where can I see a working HUD?

regards,

Delor

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Frank Riedel <frank at rezultat.dk> wrote:

He
An idea ? keep in touch with market channels to use


Regards
Frank

 

  _____  

Fra: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org
[mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] P? vegne af delor lauchang
Sendt: 21. juli 2009 15:43
Til: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List
Emne: Re: [simpits-tech] Check out my new HUD GLASS product on ViperPit

 

hi,

thats a great addon , can i give a suggestion?

to lower the market price, if you spread the use to cars displaying
important vitals, lots of racers and street cars owners would love to see
their speed and other vitals on car hud. this will revolutionize car
driving.

or sell the technology to car makers.

best regards,

delor
louisville, ky

On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 3:13 AM, Frank Riedel <frank at rezultat.dk> wrote:

http://www.viperpits.org/smf/index.php?topicP15.0

Regards
Frank

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From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Tue Jul 21 14:52:04 2009
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:52:04 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Hey Roy...
In-Reply-To: <3a0a6c680907211320t2ce6e0aao1e7051544e3abe40@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907212251430.20508-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, William Segal wrote:


Ah typical.  I find a product to solve all my problems and they go out of
business.

ARSE !!


> Bill wrote
>
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Gene Buckle <geneb at deltasoft.com> wrote:
>
> > >> Did that USB gadget from Leo Bodnar show up yet?  I'm curious to hear
> > what
> > >> you think of it.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Leo's site is down so our girl has been unable to order it. I emailed him
> > > but got no response.
> > >
> > Weird.  It was up the last time I looked at it about a week ago...
> >
> > g.
> >
>
> I have emailed him every day for 13 days nada por nada guy must
> be one of those things you sit on .Maybe he quit ???
>
> Sorry Guys
> had to put it  in me own words got some yiddish ones that I am saving for
> my one month aniversery
>
> Bazooka
>
> >
> > --
> > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
> > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
> >
> > ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
> > A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
> > http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!
> > _______________________________________________
> > Simpits-tech mailing list
> > Simpits-tech at simpits.org
> > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech
> > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above
> > page.  Thanks!
> >
>



--

Roy Coates.
Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From pcnd at msn.com  Tue Jul 21 13:56:20 2009
From: pcnd at msn.com (george giordano)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:56:20 -0700
Subject: [simpits-tech] A mech cockpit...
In-Reply-To: <63e462922c3a436791f41b727b96c372.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil>
Message-ID: <214.4a662b74@www.simpits.org>



well seeing how my post on my mech ,has been taken over by a hud post you know you can as i did , use a caddie hud and wire it as a hud for you pit .. they are about 500 bucks, thats what i paid for mine . just a little work and a sheet of glass in front of your seat , i also use a vr keyboard projected on the same sheet of glass [ in my biz special effects we call a peppers ghost ],, but i am looking foward to see how well , your production version comes out 

From geneb at deltasoft.com  Tue Jul 21 14:39:41 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:39:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Hey Roy...
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907212251430.20508-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907212251430.20508-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907211438550.11496@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, Roy Coates wrote:

> On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, William Segal wrote:
>
>
> Ah typical.  I find a product to solve all my problems and they go out of
> business.
>

I doubt they're out of business.  I suspect the poor guy has a snowball on 
his hands and isn't ready to work with it quite yet. :)
g
.

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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Tue Jul 21 19:39:00 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 19:39:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Building Recreational Flight Simulators...
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907211937460.12736@grumble.deltasoft.com>

Ok, guys start stalking his website. :)

http://www.mikesflightdeckbooks.com

\o/

g.


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http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

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From crease-guard at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jul 21 21:55:23 2009
From: crease-guard at sbcglobal.net (Joseph Fagner)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 23:55:23 -0500
Subject: [simpits-tech] Building Recreational Flight Simulators...
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907211937460.12736@grumble.deltasoft.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907211937460.12736@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <78A1E39E835645B1A25C8A6D7CF2F9BD@flightsystems>

The moment I get that book, I will start laying out the DTS board and
support boards and have some made.

Jay

Show me a man who cannot be bothered to do the little things, and I will
show you a man who cannot be trusted to do the big ones.
--Lawrence Bell, Founder Bell Helicopter
-----Original Message-----
From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org
[mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Gene Buckle
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 9:39 PM
To: simpits-tech at simpits.org
Subject: [simpits-tech] Building Recreational Flight Simulators...

Ok, guys start stalking his website. :)

http://www.mikesflightdeckbooks.com

\o/

g.


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From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Wed Jul 22 06:07:45 2009
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:07:45 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Building Recreational Flight Simulators...
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907211937460.12736@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907221407280.21375-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:

> Ok, guys start stalking his website. :)
>
> http://www.mikesflightdeckbooks.com
>

I've got Mike's first book here - will deffo be ordering the second :-)


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E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
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From echotech1452 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 22 05:07:54 2009
From: echotech1452 at gmail.com (delor lauchang)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 08:07:54 -0400
Subject: [simpits-tech] Check out my new HUD GLASS product on ViperPit
In-Reply-To: <22F7461917AF4F979DB03A2AB0727ECD@frankzepto>
References: <201.4a5e7bab@www.simpits.org> <4A63FAC0.2040703@comcast.net>
	<86699E944DD544B6A839A5CC991E7977@frankzepto>
	<ededccec0907210642x25d8b47di416734ecc7d626de@mail.gmail.com>
	<DAD9C1ED0D4F4CFF84BCDED0DBD95330@frankzepto>
	<ededccec0907211328h468406f5x660c1f4df2594e3@mail.gmail.com>
	<22F7461917AF4F979DB03A2AB0727ECD@frankzepto>
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Hi Frank,

Okay, cant wait to see that.

Best Regards,

Delor

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Frank Riedel <frank at rezultat.dk> wrote:

>  Thanks Delor
> I?ll install it with in 2 month to our F-16 simulators ? then I?ll release
> pictures
>
>
> Regards
> Frank
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *Fra:* simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:
> simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] *P? vegne af *delor lauchang
> *Sendt:* 21. juli 2009 22:28
> *Til:* Simulator Cockpit Builder's List
> *Emne:* Re: [simpits-tech] Check out my new HUD GLASS product on ViperPit
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Lots of car enthusiast club exist here in the US of A, and there are lots
> of car shows here that features muscle cars, drag racers, funny car racers,
> NASCAR racers ( could be your big market ).
>
> Who wans to remove their attn from the road if youre racing, regular car
> drivers will also love these, to prevent speeding tickets.
>
> Where can I see a working HUD?
>
> regards,
>
> Delor
>
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Frank Riedel <frank at rezultat.dk> wrote:
>
> He
> An idea ? keep in touch with market channels to use
>
>
> Regards
> Frank
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *Fra:* simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:
> simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] *P? vegne af *delor lauchang
> *Sendt:* 21. juli 2009 15:43
> *Til:* Simulator Cockpit Builder's List
> *Emne:* Re: [simpits-tech] Check out my new HUD GLASS product on ViperPit
>
>
>
> hi,
>
> thats a great addon , can i give a suggestion?
>
> to lower the market price, if you spread the use to cars displaying
> important vitals, lots of racers and street cars owners would love to see
> their speed and other vitals on car hud. this will revolutionize car
> driving.
>
> or sell the technology to car makers.
>
> best regards,
>
> delor
> louisville, ky
>
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 3:13 AM, Frank Riedel <frank at rezultat.dk> wrote:
>
> http://www.viperpits.org/smf/index.php?topicP15.0
>
> Regards
> Frank
>
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From Mi.Hi at gmx.net  Wed Jul 22 05:48:22 2009
From: Mi.Hi at gmx.net (Michael Hirczy)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:48:22 +0200
Subject: [simpits-tech] Building Recreational Flight Simulators...
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907221407280.21375-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907221407280.21375-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <20090722124822.102700@gmx.net>


> > Ok, guys start stalking his website. :)
> >
> > http://www.mikesflightdeckbooks.com
> >
> 
> I've got Mike's first book here - will deffo be ordering the second :-)

same here..

can't wait for the release of the new one.

GO, MIKE, GO!!! ;)

greetings
michi
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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Wed Jul 22 06:00:12 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 06:00:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Building Recreational Flight Simulators...
In-Reply-To: <78A1E39E835645B1A25C8A6D7CF2F9BD@flightsystems>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907211937460.12736@grumble.deltasoft.com>
	<78A1E39E835645B1A25C8A6D7CF2F9BD@flightsystems>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907220558380.15617@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, Joseph Fagner wrote:

> The moment I get that book, I will start laying out the DTS board and
> support boards and have some made.
>

That'll be cool.  Those are the holy grail of the home cockpit builder. :)

g.

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From catalina299 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 22 11:24:38 2009
From: catalina299 at gmail.com (William Segal)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:24:38 -0700
Subject: [simpits-tech] Building Recreational Flight Simulators...
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907221407280.21375-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907211937460.12736@grumble.deltasoft.com> 
	<Pine.LNX.4.44.0907221407280.21375-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <3a0a6c680907221124q503387c8u556a7580201db5f1@mail.gmail.com>

Bill wrote

On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 6:07 AM, Roy Coates <roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:
>
> > Ok, guys start stalking his website. :)
> >
> > http://www.mikesflightdeckbooks.com
> >
>
> I've got Mike's first book here - will deffo be ordering the second :-)
>
>
> --
>
> Roy Coates.
> Dept of Engineering.
> Liverpool University.
> E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
> Tel: 0151 794 4862
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs
> meter.
>
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A friend of mine who is a "low Rider" what that is ,is a automobile with
long range air schocks

Some of the lenths of travel are from 12 inches to 30 inches which I assume
aa set of those

4-6 could drive a mean motion base sort like what Mike proposes doing . They
are not cheap

I will get more information on capabilities and on prices. There is used
equipment equipment available

Regards


Bill
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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Wed Jul 22 11:39:59 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:39:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Building Recreational Flight Simulators...
In-Reply-To: <3a0a6c680907221124q503387c8u556a7580201db5f1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907211937460.12736@grumble.deltasoft.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.44.0907221407280.21375-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
	<3a0a6c680907221124q503387c8u556a7580201db5f1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907221139170.17232@grumble.deltasoft.com>

>
> A friend of mine who is a "low Rider" what that is ,is a automobile with
> long range air schocks
>
> Some of the lenths of travel are from 12 inches to 30 inches which I assume
> aa set of those
>
> 4-6 could drive a mean motion base sort like what Mike proposes doing . They
> are not cheap
>

Pnumatics are not very good for motion bases.  They bounce.

g.

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Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
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http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!

From geneb at deltasoft.com  Thu Jul 23 06:54:25 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 06:54:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] EW panel done!
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907230654020.22438@grumble.deltasoft.com>

Finally got the pics for the EW panel work posted - http://www.f15sim.com

g.


-- 
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http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!

From geneb at deltasoft.com  Thu Jul 23 06:59:06 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 06:59:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Hey Ray!
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907230658460.22478@grumble.deltasoft.com>

...did you get the email I sent you earlier this week?

g.


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http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!

From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Thu Jul 23 09:23:35 2009
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:23:35 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Hey Ray!
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907230658460.22478@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907231723210.25907-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:

> ...did you get the email I sent you earlier this week?
>


Was that hey rAy or hey rOy ?


--

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Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Thu Jul 23 09:38:47 2009
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:38:47 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] EW panel done!
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907230654020.22438@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907231738300.25907-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:

> Finally got the pics for the EW panel work posted - http://www.f15sim.com
>

Fantastic work - as always gene.

--

Roy Coates.
Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From geneb at deltasoft.com  Thu Jul 23 08:33:46 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 08:33:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Hey Ray!
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907231723210.25907-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907231723210.25907-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907230832430.22888@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Roy Coates wrote:

> On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:
>
>> ...did you get the email I sent you earlier this week?
>>
>
>
> Was that hey rAy or hey rOy ?
>

Ray.  He's the guy that used to run a site called "Blue Side Up!"  He's 
local to me and wanted to stop by this week.

g.

-- 
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!

From geneb at deltasoft.com  Thu Jul 23 08:46:35 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 08:46:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] EW panel done!
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907231738300.25907-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907231738300.25907-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907230844200.22984@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Roy Coates wrote:

> On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:
>
>> Finally got the pics for the EW panel work posted - http://www.f15sim.com
>>
>
> Fantastic work - as always gene.
>

Thanks.  Funny thing is the only switch I know 100% is the PODS switch. 
The other two I can only guess at.  The T.O. that describes the other two 
switches is literal unobtainium. :( (and it's TO 1F-15A-34-1-1-4 for those 
that might have a copy they could copy for me. *laughs*)

g.


-- 
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!

From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Thu Jul 23 09:54:54 2009
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:54:54 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Hey Ray!
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907230832430.22888@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907231754170.25907-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:

> > Was that hey rAy or hey rOy ?
> >
>
> Ray.  He's the guy that used to run a site called "Blue Side Up!"  He's
> local to me and wanted to stop by this week.

Ah, did wonder since you sent one to me with the subj "Hey Roy"

I won't tell you if I rx'd that one now.

--

Roy Coates.
Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From raysot at comcast.net  Thu Jul 23 09:55:01 2009
From: raysot at comcast.net (raysot at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:55:01 +0000
Subject: [simpits-tech] Hey Ray!
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907231754170.25907-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907230832430.22888@grumble.deltasoft.com><Pine.LNX.4.44.0907231754170.25907-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <141658532-1248368006-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-495787673-@bxe1250.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

Hi Gene,

Apologies for not getting back to you sooner. I need to postpone our visit probably until mid August. :-(

Still looking forward to it though,
Ray 

Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-----Original Message-----
From: Roy Coates <roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk>

Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:54:54 
To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List<simpits-tech at simpits.org>
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Hey Ray!


On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:

> > Was that hey rAy or hey rOy ?
> >
>
> Ray.  He's the guy that used to run a site called "Blue Side Up!"  He's
> local to me and wanted to stop by this week.

Ah, did wonder since you sent one to me with the subj "Hey Roy"

I won't tell you if I rx'd that one now.

--

Roy Coates.
Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From jjmessenger at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 23 12:05:39 2009
From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:05:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] motion base
Message-ID: <375100.28785.qm@web111503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Its interesting that commercial sims are now going to electrical motion bases
?
>Pnumatics are not very good for motion bases.? They bounce.
>
>g.


      
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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Thu Jul 23 12:20:42 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:20:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] motion base
In-Reply-To: <375100.28785.qm@web111503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <375100.28785.qm@web111503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907231218460.23992@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Justin Messenger wrote:

> Its interesting that commercial sims are now going to electrical motion bases
> ?
>> Pnumatics are not very good for motion bases.? They bounce.
>>
>> g.

I suspect that it's because it's a lot cheaper in infrastructure 
requirements to use.  Maintaining a hexapod motion base that uses 
hydraulics is very expensive.  Hell doing a 3DOF hydraulic base is spendy.

There's a guy on the net that's put together some insanely cool DIY 
actuators that aren't that expensive to build.  I don't have a link handy 
right now though.

g.



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From crease-guard at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jul 23 12:29:19 2009
From: crease-guard at sbcglobal.net (Joseph Fagner)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:29:19 -0500
Subject: [simpits-tech] Hey Ray!
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907231723210.25907-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907231723210.25907-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <89B971B2-7D72-439C-9503-E8ADB7AC1805@sbcglobal.net>

Or wa it "Jay"?

Jay

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 23, 2009, at 11:23 AM, Roy Coates <roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk>  
wrote:

> On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:
>
>> ...did you get the email I sent you earlier this week?
>>
>
>
> Was that hey rAy or hey rOy ?
>
>
> --
>
> Roy Coates.
> Dept of Engineering.
> Liverpool University.
> E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
> Tel: 0151 794 4862
> --- 
> --- 
> --- 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the  
> Hobbs meter.
> --- 
> --- 
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From allendc at qwest.net  Thu Jul 23 12:33:01 2009
From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:33:01 -0600
Subject: [simpits-tech] EW panel done!
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907230844200.22984@grumble.deltasoft.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907231738300.25907-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0907230844200.22984@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <20090723193306.E31E553BD8F@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net>

At 08:46 AM 7/23/2009 -0700, you wrote:
>On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Roy Coates wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:
> >
> >> Finally got the pics for the EW panel work posted - http://www.f15sim.com
> >>

Gene
Are you using the flat material to do your lacing ?

David
www.737FlightSim 


From geneb at deltasoft.com  Thu Jul 23 13:51:17 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:51:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] EW panel done!
In-Reply-To: <20090723193306.E31E553BD8F@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907231738300.25907-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0907230844200.22984@grumble.deltasoft.com>
	<20090723193306.E31E553BD8F@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907231350310.24395@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, David C. Allen wrote:

> At 08:46 AM 7/23/2009 -0700, you wrote:
>> On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Roy Coates wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:
>>>
>>>> Finally got the pics for the EW panel work posted - http://www.f15sim.com
>>>>
>
> Gene
> Are you using the flat material to do your lacing ?
>

Yes.  It's about 3/16" or so wide.  Maybe 1/8th.  Waxed.

g.

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From raysot at comcast.net  Thu Jul 23 14:20:54 2009
From: raysot at comcast.net (raysot at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:20:54 +0000
Subject: [simpits-tech] Hey Ray!
In-Reply-To: <89B971B2-7D72-439C-9503-E8ADB7AC1805@sbcglobal.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907231723210.25907-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk><89B971B2-7D72-439C-9503-E8ADB7AC1805@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <1864554667-1248383960-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-282032382-@bxe1250.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

Please don't call me that.  :-)

-ray


Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Fagner <crease-guard at sbcglobal.net>

Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:29:19 
To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List<simpits-tech at simpits.org>
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Hey Ray!


Or wa it "Jay"?

Jay

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 23, 2009, at 11:23 AM, Roy Coates <roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk>  
wrote:

> On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:
>
>> ...did you get the email I sent you earlier this week?
>>
>
>
> Was that hey rAy or hey rOy ?
>
>
> --
>
> Roy Coates.
> Dept of Engineering.
> Liverpool University.
> E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
> Tel: 0151 794 4862
> --- 
> --- 
> --- 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the  
> Hobbs meter.
> --- 
> --- 
> --- 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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From crease-guard at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jul 23 14:23:53 2009
From: crease-guard at sbcglobal.net (Joseph Fagner)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:23:53 -0500
Subject: [simpits-tech] Hey Ray!
In-Reply-To: <1864554667-1248383960-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-282032382-@bxe1250.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907231723210.25907-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk><89B971B2-7D72-439C-9503-E8ADB7AC1805@sbcglobal.net>
	<1864554667-1248383960-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-282032382-@bxe1250.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <CFA4D23C-EAAE-4182-9FC5-FC0CD4AE1A4E@sbcglobal.net>

Nice reference!  However that's my name so you CAN call me that.

Jay

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 23, 2009, at 4:20 PM, raysot at comcast.net wrote:

> Please don't call me that.  :-)
>
> -ray
>
>
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joseph Fagner <crease-guard at sbcglobal.net>
>
> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:29:19
> To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List<simpits-tech at simpits.org>
> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Hey Ray!
>
>
> Or wa it "Jay"?
>
> Jay
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 23, 2009, at 11:23 AM, Roy Coates <roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:
>>
>>> ...did you get the email I sent you earlier this week?
>>>
>>
>>
>> Was that hey rAy or hey rOy ?
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Roy Coates.
>> Dept of Engineering.
>> Liverpool University.
>> E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
>> Tel: 0151 794 4862
>> ---
>> ---
>> ---
>> ---
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the
>> Hobbs meter.
>> ---
>> ---
>> ---
>> ---
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Thu Jul 23 16:27:33 2009
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 00:27:33 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] motion base
In-Reply-To: <375100.28785.qm@web111503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907240026320.27222-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Justin Messenger wrote:

> Its interesting that commercial sims are now going to electrical motion bases


They have been for quite some time. Smart new motors are small enough and
powerful enough to do a job previously reserved for hydraulics. Both our
Moog platforms are electric.  It's a lot less messy !





--

Roy Coates.
Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Thu Jul 23 16:28:40 2009
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 00:28:40 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] motion base
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907231218460.23992@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907240028240.27222-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:

>
> There's a guy on the net that's put together some insanely cool DIY
> actuators that aren't that expensive to build.  I don't have a link handy
> right now though.
>

would that be inmotion ?


--

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Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Thu Jul 23 16:28:54 2009
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 00:28:54 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Hey Ray!
In-Reply-To: <89B971B2-7D72-439C-9503-E8ADB7AC1805@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907240028460.27222-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Joseph Fagner wrote:

> Or wa it "Jay"?
>



Nay.   ;-)


--

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Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From jjmessenger at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 23 15:55:31 2009
From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:55:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] motion base
In-Reply-To: <mailman.636.1248383979.2362.simpits-tech@simpits.org>
Message-ID: <97708.20173.qm@web111515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

In the summer the electric bill for the two DC-8 sims in Dayton?would reach 12 thousand dollars a month. The hydraulic pumps consumed a huge amount of power because they run continueously. The electric?motion base motor?only runs when the motion base needs it to. The electric units?also?take up?MUCH less room. 
?
>I suspect that it's because it's a lot cheaper in infrastructure requirements to use.? >Maintaining a hexapod motion base that uses hydraulics is very expensive.? Hell doing a >3DOF hydraulic base is spendy.
>
>There's a guy on the net that's put together some insanely cool DIY actuators that aren't >that expensive to build.? I don't have a link handy right now though.

>g.


      
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From allendc at qwest.net  Thu Jul 23 17:31:36 2009
From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:31:36 -0600
Subject: [simpits-tech] Looking for a 4 line 8 character display
In-Reply-To: <97708.20173.qm@web111515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <mailman.636.1248383979.2362.simpits-tech@simpits.org>
	<97708.20173.qm@web111515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20090724003141.0C5CF1A98F7@mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net>

Hello
I am looking for a 4 line 8 character LCD serial display, to build 
the hud control module for the 737.

Lots of larger 4 x 16 but nothing smaller

I know I can't afford the OEM part from Flight Dynamics :-(

David
www.737FlightSim.com


From geneb at deltasoft.com  Thu Jul 23 18:22:05 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:22:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Hey Ray!
In-Reply-To: <1864554667-1248383960-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-282032382-@bxe1250.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907231723210.25907-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk><89B971B2-7D72-439C-9503-E8ADB7AC1805@sbcglobal.net>
	<1864554667-1248383960-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-282032382-@bxe1250.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907231821550.25415@grumble.deltasoft.com>

Johnson, wasn't it?

*runs*


On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, raysot at comcast.net wrote:

> Please don't call me that.  :-)
>
> -ray
>
>
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joseph Fagner <crease-guard at sbcglobal.net>
>
> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:29:19
> To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List<simpits-tech at simpits.org>
> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Hey Ray!
>
>
> Or wa it "Jay"?
>
> Jay
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 23, 2009, at 11:23 AM, Roy Coates <roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:
>>
>>> ...did you get the email I sent you earlier this week?
>>>
>>
>>
>> Was that hey rAy or hey rOy ?
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Roy Coates.
>> Dept of Engineering.
>> Liverpool University.
>> E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
>> Tel: 0151 794 4862
>> ---
>> ---
>> ---
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the
>> Hobbs meter.
>> ---
>> ---
>> ---
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
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http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

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http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!

From geneb at deltasoft.com  Thu Jul 23 18:23:43 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:23:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] DIY motion base link...
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907240028240.27222-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907240028240.27222-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907231822440.25415@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Fri, 24 Jul 2009, Roy Coates wrote:

> On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:
>
>>
>> There's a guy on the net that's put together some insanely cool DIY
>> actuators that aren't that expensive to build.  I don't have a link handy
>> right now though.
>>
>
> would that be inmotion ?
>
>

I don't think so.  He's in your neck of the planet actually:

http://buggies.builtforfun.co.uk/Sim/index.html

Very straightforward designs, stupidly simple to build and as soon as I 
can source three motors, on my todo list. :)

g.

-- 
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!

From geneb at deltasoft.com  Thu Jul 23 18:25:49 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:25:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Looking for a 4 line 8 character display
In-Reply-To: <20090724003141.0C5CF1A98F7@mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net>
References: <mailman.636.1248383979.2362.simpits-tech@simpits.org>
	<97708.20173.qm@web111515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<20090724003141.0C5CF1A98F7@mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907231825040.25415@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, David C. Allen wrote:

> Hello
> I am looking for a 4 line 8 character LCD serial display, to build
> the hud control module for the 737.
>
> Lots of larger 4 x 16 but nothing smaller
>
> I know I can't afford the OEM part from Flight Dynamics :-(
>

Go to your local bookmonger and buy a copy of Nuts & Volts.  Tons of LCD 
displays in there.  Parallax may also sell what you need or have a link to 
it - http://www.parallaxinc.com

g.

-- 
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!

From raysot at comcast.net  Thu Jul 23 19:31:50 2009
From: raysot at comcast.net (Ray Sotkiewicz)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:31:50 -0700
Subject: [simpits-tech]  Looking for a Collimator Lens..
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907231825040.25415@grumble.deltasoft.com>
References: <mailman.636.1248383979.2362.simpits-tech@simpits.org>	<97708.20173.qm@web111515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>	<20090724003141.0C5CF1A98F7@mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0907231825040.25415@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <4A691D16.1060503@comcast.net>

Science shops sell collimator lenses on the cheap but I can't find 
anything as big as I need. A typical HUD collimator lens is about 3 
inches in diameter.

Has anyone sourced anything like this before?


From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Fri Jul 24 05:19:29 2009
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:19:29 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Looking for a Collimator Lens..
In-Reply-To: <4A691D16.1060503@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907241319001.28037-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Ray Sotkiewicz wrote:

> Science shops sell collimator lenses on the cheap but I can't find
> anything as big as I need. A typical HUD collimator lens is about 3
> inches in diameter.
>
> Has anyone sourced anything like this before?


A long shot - but don't rear projection TV's use these lenses at about the
right size?


--

Roy Coates.
Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From echotech1452 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 24 06:01:03 2009
From: echotech1452 at gmail.com (delor lauchang)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 09:01:03 -0400
Subject: [simpits-tech] Looking for a Collimator Lens..
In-Reply-To: <4A691D16.1060503@comcast.net>
References: <mailman.636.1248383979.2362.simpits-tech@simpits.org>
	<97708.20173.qm@web111515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<20090724003141.0C5CF1A98F7@mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0907231825040.25415@grumble.deltasoft.com>
	<4A691D16.1060503@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <ededccec0907240601l4d352795w406d4b84f1dfcc45@mail.gmail.com>

try telescope lens suppliers, thats where i got my telescope collimator,
they have different sizes.

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Ray Sotkiewicz <raysot at comcast.net> wrote:

> Science shops sell collimator lenses on the cheap but I can't find
> anything as big as I need. A typical HUD collimator lens is about 3
> inches in diameter.
>
> Has anyone sourced anything like this before?
>
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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Fri Jul 24 07:13:35 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 07:13:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Looking for a Collimator Lens..
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907241319001.28037-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907241319001.28037-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907240712530.28762@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Fri, 24 Jul 2009, Roy Coates wrote:

> On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Ray Sotkiewicz wrote:
>
>> Science shops sell collimator lenses on the cheap but I can't find
>> anything as big as I need. A typical HUD collimator lens is about 3
>> inches in diameter.
>>
>> Has anyone sourced anything like this before?
>
>
> A long shot - but don't rear projection TV's use these lenses at about the
> right size?
>

Ray, you might also want to check Edumund Scientific.  They sell a LOT of 
optics.

g.

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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Mon Jul 27 21:12:00 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:12:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Cockpit mystery...
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907272043340.17361@grumble.deltasoft.com>

A friend of mine has recently gotten a 747-300 flight deck for use as a 
simulator cockpit.

Take a peek at this picture:
http://www.geneb.org/patio_jet.jpg

The mystery involves the big "T" shaped patch that's on the side of the 
cockpit.  The same patch is on the other side.  According to the 
documentation he has, the aircraft has never been involved in an incident 
that would require this kind of reinforcement patch.  Cathay Pacific won't 
release the maintenance records to him.  I'm wondering if this is the 
result of some kind of Airworthyness Directive.  I figured that there are 
a number of Boeing pit builders here and that one of you might know what 
the patch is all about.

Thanks!

g.


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From allendc at qwest.net  Mon Jul 27 08:23:58 2009
From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:23:58 -0600
Subject: [simpits-tech] Cockpit mystery...
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907272043340.17361@grumble.deltasoft.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907272043340.17361@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <20090727152432.5509122DE7E@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net>

My guess is that they are stress or corrosion patches.  Lots of 
aircraft have them

Steve Smith would s*** his pants if he saw that picture.

It that Matt W 747?

David
www.737FlightSim.com 


From geneb at deltasoft.com  Tue Jul 28 00:57:17 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 00:57:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Cockpit mystery...
In-Reply-To: <20090727152432.5509122DE7E@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907272043340.17361@grumble.deltasoft.com>
	<20090727152432.5509122DE7E@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907280040520.17929@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Mon, 27 Jul 2009, David C. Allen wrote:

> My guess is that they are stress or corrosion patches.  Lots of
> aircraft have them
>
I suspect you're correct, but it would be nice to have an "official" 
reason. A patch like that is a wickedly expensive thing to do.

> Steve Smith would s*** his pants if he saw that picture.
>
Hehehe.  I wonder where he's lurking these days...

> It that Matt W 747?
>
Yep.

g.

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From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Mon Jul 27 17:46:40 2009
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 01:46:40 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Cockpit mystery...
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907272043340.17361@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907280146040.3729-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Mon, 27 Jul 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:


There was a problem with 747's catching the speaker post when they went
through drive-thru MacDonalds.  Maybe this is a clue?


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Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From geneb at deltasoft.com  Mon Jul 27 19:06:06 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:06:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Cockpit mystery...
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907280146040.3729-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907280146040.3729-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907271905400.3092@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009, Roy Coates wrote:

> On Mon, 27 Jul 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:
>
>
> There was a problem with 747's catching the speaker post when they went
> through drive-thru MacDonalds.  Maybe this is a clue?
>
...reaches for the trout...

g.


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From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Tue Jul 28 06:42:42 2009
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:42:42 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Cockpit mystery...
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907271905400.3092@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907281442290.4671-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Mon, 27 Jul 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:

> On Tue, 28 Jul 2009, Roy Coates wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 27 Jul 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:
> >
> >
> > There was a problem with 747's catching the speaker post when they went
> > through drive-thru MacDonalds.  Maybe this is a clue?
> >
> ...reaches for the trout...
>


I'll get my coat ...


--

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Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From geneb at deltasoft.com  Tue Jul 28 07:32:20 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 07:32:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Building Recreational Flight Simulators...
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907280731100.12354@grumble.deltasoft.com>

...is _almost_ here!

http://www.mikesflightdeck.com/

The books are due to arrive today!  Mike has put up a PDF file that has 
some sample chapters in it as well.

g.


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From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Tue Jul 28 08:59:13 2009
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:59:13 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Building Recreational Flight Simulators...
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907280731100.12354@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907281658580.4671-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:

> ...is _almost_ here!
>
> http://www.mikesflightdeck.com/
>
> The books are due to arrive today!  Mike has put up a PDF file that has
> some sample chapters in it as well.


Excellent :-)


--

Roy Coates.
Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From crease-guard at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jul 28 08:35:42 2009
From: crease-guard at sbcglobal.net (Joseph Fagner)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:35:42 -0500
Subject: [simpits-tech] Building Recreational Flight Simulators...
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907280731100.12354@grumble.deltasoft.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907280731100.12354@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <8E62398F33FB4C458202AAC6C896955F@flightsystems>

Sweet.

Jay

Show me a man who cannot be bothered to do the little things, and I will
show you a man who cannot be trusted to do the big ones.
--Lawrence Bell, Founder Bell Helicopter
-----Original Message-----
From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org
[mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Gene Buckle
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 9:32 AM
To: simpits-tech at simpits.org
Subject: [simpits-tech] Building Recreational Flight Simulators...

...is _almost_ here!

http://www.mikesflightdeck.com/

The books are due to arrive today!  Mike has put up a PDF file that has 
some sample chapters in it as well.

g.


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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Tue Jul 28 19:25:00 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:25:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Ok you guys...
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907281924160.21581@grumble.deltasoft.com>

I ordered my copy of BRFS, so get on it. :)

*laughs*

g.



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From crease-guard at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jul 28 19:44:10 2009
From: crease-guard at sbcglobal.net (Joseph Fagner)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:44:10 -0500
Subject: [simpits-tech] Ok you guys...
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907281924160.21581@grumble.deltasoft.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907281924160.21581@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <38B5728F803A4DA0BC022973486F034A@flightsystems>

Sweet, just ordered mine as well.

Go get em guys, Mike's been working on this book for about 3-4 years that I
can recall...probably a lot more than that.

Jay

Show me a man who cannot be bothered to do the little things, and I will
show you a man who cannot be trusted to do the big ones.
--Lawrence Bell, Founder Bell Helicopter
-----Original Message-----
From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org
[mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Gene Buckle
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 9:25 PM
To: simpits-tech at simpits.org
Subject: [simpits-tech] Ok you guys...

I ordered my copy of BRFS, so get on it. :)

*laughs*

g.



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From raysot at comcast.net  Tue Jul 28 19:49:23 2009
From: raysot at comcast.net (Ray Sotkiewicz)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:49:23 -0700
Subject: [simpits-tech] Ok you guys...
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907281924160.21581@grumble.deltasoft.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907281924160.21581@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <4A6FB8B3.2030909@comcast.net>

I got on it...

...but I had to think first.. "What could I possibly learn that I 
haven't already blew up/ignited/melted since 1997?

..A quick review of the book says "A lot"! I'm especially looking 
forward to the LCD Matrix chapter(s).

A fantastic read!
-Ray




Gene Buckle wrote:
> I ordered my copy of BRFS, so get on it. :)
>
> *laughs*
>
> g.
>
>
>
>   


From geneb at deltasoft.com  Tue Jul 28 20:16:27 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:16:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Ok you guys...
In-Reply-To: <38B5728F803A4DA0BC022973486F034A@flightsystems>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907281924160.21581@grumble.deltasoft.com>
	<38B5728F803A4DA0BC022973486F034A@flightsystems>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907282015160.22212@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009, Joseph Fagner wrote:

> Sweet, just ordered mine as well.
>
> Go get em guys, Mike's been working on this book for about 3-4 years that I
> can recall...probably a lot more than that.
>

It can be said that it's the most anticipated flight simulation book this 
century! :)

g.

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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Tue Jul 28 20:17:26 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:17:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Ok you guys...
In-Reply-To: <4A6FB8B3.2030909@comcast.net>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907281924160.21581@grumble.deltasoft.com>
	<4A6FB8B3.2030909@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907282016480.22212@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009, Ray Sotkiewicz wrote:

> I got on it...
>
> ...but I had to think first.. "What could I possibly learn that I
> haven't already blew up/ignited/melted since 1997?
>
> ..A quick review of the book says "A lot"! I'm especially looking
> forward to the LCD Matrix chapter(s).
>

Ray, there's a Digital to Synchro converter board that is worth the book 
price all by itself.

g.
-- 
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http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

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From mi.hi at gmx.net  Tue Jul 28 23:38:33 2009
From: mi.hi at gmx.net (Michael Hirczy)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:38:33 +0200
Subject: [simpits-tech] Ok you guys...
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907281924160.21581@grumble.deltasoft.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907281924160.21581@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <4A6FEE69.4000306@gmx.net>

Gene Buckle schrieb:
> I ordered my copy of BRFS, so get on it. :)

damn, I wanted to be the first one ;)
nevertheless...

[x] ordered

Mike, I hope, I'll get a personal signature in the book like in the 
first one :)

greetings
michi

From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Wed Jul 29 06:46:08 2009
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:46:08 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] No LeoBodnar?  Try Hagstrom.
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907291443380.5983-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>



For anyone (like me) who is up the creek now that Leo's site seems to have
vanished, take a look at Hagstrom's KEAD6 product.

http://www.hagstromelectronics.com/products/kead6.html

I've got one here - not had time to install/test it yet though.

Roy.

--

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Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From rd at ns.sympatico.ca  Wed Jul 29 05:57:11 2009
From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:57:11 -0300
Subject: [simpits-tech] No LeoBodnar?  Try Hagstrom.
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907291443380.5983-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <005501ca104c$17140f70$0a02a8c0@your384jh9sv0b>

Seems like that's two of these companies going South on us. Both operated by 
Leo's incidentally.

????

R



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roy Coates" <roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk>
To: <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:46 AM
Subject: [simpits-tech] No LeoBodnar? Try Hagstrom.


>
>
> For anyone (like me) who is up the creek now that Leo's site seems to have
> vanished, take a look at Hagstrom's KEAD6 product.
>
> http://www.hagstromelectronics.com/products/kead6.html
>
> I've got one here - not had time to install/test it yet though.
>
> Roy.
>
> --
>
> Roy Coates.
> Dept of Engineering.
> Liverpool University.
> E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
> Tel: 0151 794 4862
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs 
> meter.
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Wed Jul 29 06:15:51 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:15:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] No LeoBodnar?  Try Hagstrom.
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907291443380.5983-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907291443380.5983-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907290614490.30650@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009, Roy Coates wrote:

>
>
> For anyone (like me) who is up the creek now that Leo's site seems to have
> vanished, take a look at Hagstrom's KEAD6 product.
>
> http://www.hagstromelectronics.com/products/kead6.html
>
> I've got one here - not had time to install/test it yet though.
>

I need to do some digging and see if I can find out what the hell is going 
on.  I really wanted to order a couple of '36s from him.  Then again, the 
hardware in Mikes book may make it moot.  Dunno yet.

g.

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http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

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From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Wed Jul 29 08:17:07 2009
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:17:07 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] No LeoBodnar?  Try Hagstrom.
In-Reply-To: <005501ca104c$17140f70$0a02a8c0@your384jh9sv0b>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907291616551.5983-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009, Rick Davis wrote:

> Seems like that's two of these companies going South on us. Both operated by
> Leo's incidentally.
>

I'm so glad that I'm Gemini.


--

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Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From rd at ns.sympatico.ca  Wed Jul 29 08:58:47 2009
From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:58:47 -0300
Subject: [simpits-tech] No LeoBodnar?  Try Hagstrom.
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907291616551.5983-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <006e01ca1065$757650f0$0a02a8c0@your384jh9sv0b>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roy Coates" <roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk>
To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] No LeoBodnar? Try Hagstrom.


> On Wed, 29 Jul 2009, Rick Davis wrote:
>
>> Seems like that's two of these companies going South on us. Both operated 
>> by
>> Leo's incidentally.
>>
>
> I'm so glad that I'm Gemini.

Don't be too glad Roy. I see by your horoscope that Sagittarius will be 
entering Uranus on the full of the moon.

:)



From geneb at deltasoft.com  Wed Jul 29 09:07:03 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:07:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] No LeoBodnar?  Try Hagstrom.
In-Reply-To: <006e01ca1065$757650f0$0a02a8c0@your384jh9sv0b>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907291616551.5983-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
	<006e01ca1065$757650f0$0a02a8c0@your384jh9sv0b>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907290906130.1281@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009, Rick Davis wrote:

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roy Coates" <roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk>
> To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] No LeoBodnar? Try Hagstrom.
>
>
>> On Wed, 29 Jul 2009, Rick Davis wrote:
>>
>>> Seems like that's two of these companies going South on us. Both operated
>>> by
>>> Leo's incidentally.
>>>
>>
>> I'm so glad that I'm Gemini.
>
> Don't be too glad Roy. I see by your horoscope that Sagittarius will be
> entering Uranus on the full of the moon.
>
*blinks*

Awesome.  Just frakking awesome.  *snickers*

g.

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http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
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From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Wed Jul 29 10:25:45 2009
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:25:45 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] No LeoBodnar?  Try Hagstrom.
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907290906130.1281@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907291822330.5983-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>


Quite back on topic...

I just got a pair of Phidget 0/16/16's driving my annunciator panel.

After all these years of dicking about with gadgets'n'widgets I still get
a huge kick out of seeing things light up when they're supposed to !

Aircraft at 30,000 feet.

Set fuel to about 2 gallons per tank...

Sit back hugging large cup of coffee and wait...

Engines splutter...  Engines die...

Annunciator panel lights up like it's Xmas  :-)

I love my job on days like this !


Oh, just put a 6,300 UKP order in to simkits too.


Roy.


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Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
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From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Wed Jul 29 10:21:50 2009
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:21:50 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] No LeoBodnar?  Try Hagstrom.
In-Reply-To: <006e01ca1065$757650f0$0a02a8c0@your384jh9sv0b>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907291821310.5983-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009, Rick Davis wrote:

> > I'm so glad that I'm Gemini.
>
> Don't be too glad Roy. I see by your horoscope that Sagittarius will be
> entering Uranus on the full of the moon.


Yikes - I hope that's a simulator too !!

--

Roy Coates.
Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter.
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From jeroen_huijben at hotmail.com  Wed Jul 29 10:18:27 2009
From: jeroen_huijben at hotmail.com (Jeroen Huijben)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:18:27 +0200
Subject: [simpits-tech] No LeoBodnar?  Try Hagstrom.
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907291443380.5983-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907291443380.5983-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <COL115-W8217415CBAC75F1CCDB44FE120@phx.gbl>


And there is U-Hid.

http://www.u-hid.com/
 
> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:46:08 +0100
> From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk
> To: simpits-tech at simpits.org
> Subject: [simpits-tech] No LeoBodnar? Try Hagstrom.
> 
> 
> 
> For anyone (like me) who is up the creek now that Leo's site seems to have
> vanished, take a look at Hagstrom's KEAD6 product.
> 
> http://www.hagstromelectronics.com/products/kead6.html
> 
> I've got one here - not had time to install/test it yet though.
> 
> Roy.
> 
> --
> 
> Roy Coates.
> Dept of Engineering.
> Liverpool University.
> E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
> Tel: 0151 794 4862
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter.
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Wed Jul 29 10:23:28 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 10:23:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] No LeoBodnar?  Try Hagstrom.
In-Reply-To: <COL115-W8217415CBAC75F1CCDB44FE120@phx.gbl>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907291443380.5983-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
	<COL115-W8217415CBAC75F1CCDB44FE120@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907291023170.2712@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009, Jeroen Huijben wrote:

>
> And there is U-Hid.
>
> http://www.u-hid.com/
>
Pretty neat stuff.

g.

-- 
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From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Wed Jul 29 11:33:37 2009
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:33:37 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] No LeoBodnar?  Try Hagstrom.
In-Reply-To: <COL115-W8217415CBAC75F1CCDB44FE120@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907291933190.5983-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009, Jeroen Huijben wrote:

>
> And there is U-Hid.
>
> http://www.u-hid.com/
>


Hey, looks good - thanks Jeroen.


--

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Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From catalina299 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 29 11:00:45 2009
From: catalina299 at gmail.com (William Segal)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:00:45 -0700
Subject: [simpits-tech] No LeoBodnar? Try Hagstrom.
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907291443380.5983-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907291443380.5983-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <3a0a6c680907291100p2eec6410wde9de482a210da9a@mail.gmail.com>

Bill wrote

On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 6:46 AM, Roy Coates <roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk> wrote:

>
>
> For anyone (like me) who is up the creek now that Leo's site seems to have
> vanished, take a look at Hagstrom's KEAD6 product.
>
> http://www.hagstromelectronics.com/products/kead6.html
>
> I've got one here - not had time to install/test it yet though.
>
> Roy.
>
> --
>
> Roy Coates.
> Dept of Engineering.
> Liverpool University.
> E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
> Tel: 0151 794 4862
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs
> meter.
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
Guys we have it running no issues but what the issue with Bognars board
in the beginning the upgrade 386 kept dropping its configuration. That
however took
care of itself when we got the Tripleheadtogo to run at full ,max resolution
of
1680x1050 on my 3 24 inch LCD With DVI full connectors no 9 pin stuff.

   Now I need some help too .I am trying to run a professional planner and
moving
map from Seattle Avionics. I need a GPS that is software driven to convince
X-plane
that the aircraft is not over my house . I have one on order but Seattle
Avionics claims
it runs on an NMEA 0183 interface anyone heard of a plug-in to adapt to that
interface
in X-plane ?

The company is  www.seattleavionics.com  their base product makes X-planes
moving
map look like it's from the Neanthrathals !

Regards

Bill Segal



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From crease-guard at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jul 29 11:19:36 2009
From: crease-guard at sbcglobal.net (Joseph Fagner)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:19:36 -0500
Subject: [simpits-tech] No LeoBodnar?  Try Hagstrom.
In-Reply-To: <COL115-W8217415CBAC75F1CCDB44FE120@phx.gbl>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907291443380.5983-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
	<COL115-W8217415CBAC75F1CCDB44FE120@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <333355353E38422B84563FE0D9FCE46A@flightsystems>

Does look slick but I'm not paying another penny for anything I can't
control myself.  Be it open source or developed from the ground up.

 

I'm tired of these guys coming along, we invest in their stuff then they
tell us to eff off for whatever psychotic reason they come up with.

 

This is exactly why I refuse to take the time to build anything proprietary.
None of my stuff will be useless if I fall off the Earth or get hit by a
bus.

 

Jay

 

Show me a man who cannot be bothered to do the little things, and I will
show you a man who cannot be trusted to do the big ones.

--Lawrence Bell, Founder Bell Helicopter

  _____  

From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org
[mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Jeroen Huijben
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:18 PM
To: Simpits List
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] No LeoBodnar? Try Hagstrom.

 

And there is U-Hid.
http://www.u-hid.com/
 
> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:46:08 +0100
> From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk
> To: simpits-tech at simpits.org
> Subject: [simpits-tech] No LeoBodnar? Try Hagstrom.
> 
> 
> 
> For anyone (like me) who is up the creek now that Leo's site seems to have
> vanished, take a look at Hagstrom's KEAD6 product.
> 
> http://www.hagstromelectronics.com/products/kead6.html
> 
> I've got one here - not had time to install/test it yet though.
> 
> Roy.
> 
> --
> 
> Roy Coates.
> Dept of Engineering.
> Liverpool University.
> E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
> Tel: 0151 794 4862
>
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From jjmessenger at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 29 11:51:01 2009
From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:51:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] No LeoBodnar? Try Hagstrom.
Message-ID: <809677.71804.qm@web111501.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Roy, that is very cool!? Im curious if there is an?advantage with going Phidgets instead of EPIC?? 
I just gutted a real 727 VSI and installed a servo linked to a multi controller. It looks like a million dollars when running! Neat stuff!

?
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>Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:25 PM



From: 

>"Roy Coates" <roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk>



To: 
>"Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" <simpits-tech at simpits.org>


>
>Quite back on topic...

>I just got a pair of Phidget 0/16/16's driving my annunciator panel.

After all these years of dicking about with gadgets'n'widgets I still get
>a huge kick out of seeing things light up when they're supposed to !

>Aircraft at 30,000 feet.
>
Set fuel to about 2 gallons per tank...
>
>Sit back hugging large cup of coffee and wait...
>
>Engines splutter...? Engines die...

>Annunciator panel lights up like it's Xmas? :-)

>I love my job on days like this !

>
>Oh, just put a 6,300 UKP order in to simkits too.
>
>
>Roy.



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From rd at ns.sympatico.ca  Wed Jul 29 13:23:15 2009
From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:23:15 -0300
Subject: [simpits-tech] No LeoBodnar?  Try Hagstrom.
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907291821310.5983-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <00c501ca108a$677a4cc0$0a02a8c0@your384jh9sv0b>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roy Coates" <roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk>
To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] No LeoBodnar? Try Hagstrom.


> On Wed, 29 Jul 2009, Rick Davis wrote:
> 
>> > I'm so glad that I'm Gemini.
>>
>> Don't be too glad Roy. I see by your horoscope that Sagittarius will be
>> entering Uranus on the full of the moon.
> 
> 
> Yikes - I hope that's a simulator too !!
> 
> --

I think it's better known as a "stimulator" Roy. 

;)

R

From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Wed Jul 29 15:35:07 2009
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 23:35:07 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] No LeoBodnar?  Try Hagstrom.
In-Reply-To: <00c501ca108a$677a4cc0$0a02a8c0@your384jh9sv0b>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907292333520.6923-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009, Rick Davis wrote:

> >> > I'm so glad that I'm Gemini.
> >>
> >> Don't be too glad Roy. I see by your horoscope that Sagittarius will be
> >> entering Uranus on the full of the moon.
> >
> > Yikes - I hope that's a simulator too !!
> >
> I think it's better known as a "stimulator" Roy.


Not in my world it's not Rick!



must be a Canadian thing... heh....


--

Roy Coates.
Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From rd at ns.sympatico.ca  Wed Jul 29 14:52:08 2009
From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:52:08 -0300
Subject: [simpits-tech] No LeoBodnar?  Try Hagstrom.
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907292333520.6923-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <00ff01ca1096$d2544f80$0a02a8c0@your384jh9sv0b>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roy Coates" <roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk>
To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 7:35 PM
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] No LeoBodnar? Try Hagstrom.


> On Wed, 29 Jul 2009, Rick Davis wrote:
>
>> >> > I'm so glad that I'm Gemini.
>> >>
>> >> Don't be too glad Roy. I see by your horoscope that Sagittarius will 
>> >> be
>> >> entering Uranus on the full of the moon.
>> >
>> > Yikes - I hope that's a simulator too !!
>> >
>> I think it's better known as a "stimulator" Roy.
>
>
> Not in my world it's not Rick!
>
>
>
> must be a Canadian thing... heh....

Bwahahaha! Don't think so. But it seems to correspond with the annual Med 
check-up!



From allendc at qwest.net  Wed Jul 29 15:21:13 2009
From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:21:13 -0600
Subject: [simpits-tech] No LeoBodnar?  Try Hagstrom.
In-Reply-To: <00ff01ca1096$d2544f80$0a02a8c0@your384jh9sv0b>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907292333520.6923-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
	<00ff01ca1096$d2544f80$0a02a8c0@your384jh9sv0b>
Message-ID: <20090729222118.3D697622097@mpls-qmqp-03.inet.qwest.net>

At 06:52 PM 7/29/2009 -0300, you wrote:

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Roy Coates" <roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk>
>To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 7:35 PM
>Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] No LeoBodnar? Try Hagstrom.
>
>
> > On Wed, 29 Jul 2009, Rick Davis wrote:
> >
> >> >> > I'm so glad that I'm Gemini.
> >> >>
> >> >> Don't be too glad Roy. I see by your horoscope that Sagittarius will
> >> >> be
> >> >> entering Uranus on the full of the moon.
> >> >
> >> > Yikes - I hope that's a simulator too !!
> >> >
> >> I think it's better known as a "stimulator" Roy.
> >
> >
> > Not in my world it's not Rick!
> >
> >
> >
> > must be a Canadian thing... heh....
>
>Bwahahaha! Don't think so. But it seems to correspond with the annual Med
>check-up!

Sounds like a "digital" adventure

David
www.737flightsim.com 


From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Wed Jul 29 17:14:54 2009
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:14:54 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] No LeoBodnar?  Try Hagstrom.
In-Reply-To: <00ff01ca1096$d2544f80$0a02a8c0@your384jh9sv0b>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907300114200.7048-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009, Rick Davis wrote:

> >> I think it's better known as a "stimulator" Roy.
> >
> > Not in my world it's not Rick!
> >
> > must be a Canadian thing... heh....
>
> Bwahahaha! Don't think so. But it seems to correspond with the annual Med
> check-up!


Har!  That's only for guys of 50 or more.


I'm 49 ... crap ....


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Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
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Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter.
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From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Wed Jul 29 17:15:38 2009
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:15:38 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] No LeoBodnar?  Try Hagstrom.
In-Reply-To: <20090729222118.3D697622097@mpls-qmqp-03.inet.qwest.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907300115190.7048-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009, David C. Allen wrote:

> >
> >Bwahahaha! Don't think so. But it seems to correspond with the annual Med
> >check-up!
>
> Sounds like a "digital" adventure


GET THE TROUT !!


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Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From phoenixcomm at gmail.com  Thu Jul 30 07:33:40 2009
From: phoenixcomm at gmail.com (Cris Harrison)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:33:40 -0500
Subject: [simpits-tech] !RE:  No LeoBodnar?  Try Hagstrom.
In-Reply-To: <333355353E38422B84563FE0D9FCE46A@flightsystems>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907291443380.5983-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>	<COL115-W8217415CBAC75F1CCDB44FE120@phx.gbl>
	<333355353E38422B84563FE0D9FCE46A@flightsystems>
Message-ID: <005501ca1122$bc4d6730$34e83590$@com>

Jay

THANK YOU!!!!!!

And you (most every body on  the bord) laughed at me a few years ago for my
comments on M$ flight sim. And my project Next Gen.  I 

Guess I realy might have the last laugh.

 

Cris Harrison

www.phoenixcomm.net/~phnx2000/sim

www.phoenixaerospace.us

 

 

From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org
[mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Fagner
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 1:20 PM
To: 'Simulator Cockpit Builder's List'
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] No LeoBodnar? Try Hagstrom.

 

Does look slick but I'm not paying another penny for anything I can't
control myself.  Be it open source or developed from the ground up.

 

I'm tired of these guys coming along, we invest in their stuff then they
tell us to eff off for whatever psychotic reason they come up with.

 

This is exactly why I refuse to take the time to build anything proprietary.
None of my stuff will be useless if I fall off the Earth or get hit by a
bus.

 

Jay

 

Show me a man who cannot be bothered to do the little things, and I will
show you a man who cannot be trusted to do the big ones.

--Lawrence Bell, Founder Bell Helicopter

  _____  

From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org
[mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Jeroen Huijben
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:18 PM
To: Simpits List
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] No LeoBodnar? Try Hagstrom.

 

And there is U-Hid.
http://www.u-hid.com/
 
> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:46:08 +0100
> From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk
> To: simpits-tech at simpits.org
> Subject: [simpits-tech] No LeoBodnar? Try Hagstrom.
> 
> 
> 
> For anyone (like me) who is up the creek now that Leo's site seems to have
> vanished, take a look at Hagstrom's KEAD6 product.
> 
> http://www.hagstromelectronics.com/products/kead6.html
> 
> I've got one here - not had time to install/test it yet though.
> 
> Roy.
> 
> --
> 
> Roy Coates.
> Dept of Engineering.
> Liverpool University.
> E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
> Tel: 0151 794 4862
>
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>
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From allendc at qwest.net  Wed Jul 29 18:56:26 2009
From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:56:26 -0600
Subject: [simpits-tech] Custom Crimper
Message-ID: <20090730015631.C0C8B22DFDE@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net>

I needed to crimp some wire rope to some control line terminals for 
the sim, checking the web the Crimpers are big bucks! Only a person 
like Gene could afford to have a pair hanging around his man land 
only to be used one or two times of the F15.

So I visited Harbor Freight, and found a pair of 18 inch bolt cutters 
for under $20usd. Then off to the water jet boys to make some new 
jaws, for around $20usd

Tomorrow I will pick up the end mill to cut the die pattern, around $10usd

While I acknowledge the jaws are not made from tool steel, I am sure 
I can get the 10 or 12 crimps I need!

Here is a link showing the conversion.

http://www.737flightsim.com/cut/cut.html

David
www.737FlightSim.com


From allendc at qwest.net  Thu Jul 30 07:35:23 2009
From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:35:23 -0600
Subject: [simpits-tech] Custom Crimper
Message-ID: <20090730143739.D01A1627D06@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net>

Hello
I needed to crimp some wire rope to some control line terminals for 
the sim, checking the web the Crimpers are big bucks! Only a person 
like Gene could afford to have a pair hanging around his man land 
only to be used one or two times of the F15.

So I visited Harbor Freight, and found a pair of 18 inch bolt cutters 
for under $20usd. Then off to the water jet boys to make some new 
jaws, for around $20usd

Tomorrow I will pick up the end mill to cut the die pattern, around $10usd

While I acknowledge the jaws are not made from tool steel, I am sure 
I can get the 10 or 12 crimps I need!

Here is a link showing the conversion.

http://www.737flightsim.com/cut/cut.html

David
www.737FlightSim.com


From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Thu Jul 30 08:50:15 2009
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:50:15 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Custom Crimper
In-Reply-To: <20090730015631.C0C8B22DFDE@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907301649370.8128-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009, David C. Allen wrote:



Very nice David.  It's the 'workarounds' like this that make pit building
so much fun I think :-)


--

Roy Coates.
Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
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From jjmessenger at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 30 08:04:49 2009
From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:04:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] CFS and FSUIPC
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1248964442.2455.simpits-tech@simpits.org>
Message-ID: <38638.84345.qm@web111506.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Is CFS 1 the only version that can use FSUIPC?
?
I got the simkits multi controller working with it the other day. The VSI worked nicly.?I? have CFS3 but dont see a modules folder to place FSUIPC in.


      
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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Thu Jul 30 08:29:18 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:29:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Custom Crimper
In-Reply-To: <20090730015631.C0C8B22DFDE@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net>
References: <20090730015631.C0C8B22DFDE@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907300825430.13744@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009, David C. Allen wrote:

> I needed to crimp some wire rope to some control line terminals for
> the sim, checking the web the Crimpers are big bucks! Only a person
> like Gene could afford to have a pair hanging around his man land
> only to be used one or two times of the F15.
>
Pfft.  I can't even evict the moths in my wallet - I need their rent 
money. :)

> http://www.737flightsim.com/cut/cut.html
>

Poor man's swagging tool!  I love it! :)

I'd love to have something like that to neck-down 1/2" conduit for use as 
pushrods.

g.

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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Thu Jul 30 08:31:36 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:31:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] CFS and FSUIPC
In-Reply-To: <38638.84345.qm@web111506.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <38638.84345.qm@web111506.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907300830340.13744@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Thu, 30 Jul 2009, Justin Messenger wrote:

> Is CFS 1 the only version that can use FSUIPC? ? I got the simkits multi 
> controller working with it the other day. The VSI worked nicly.?I? have 
> CFS3 but dont see a modules folder to place FSUIPC in.

If memory serves, CFS1 is the only version you can pull data from.  If 
you're going to build a cockpit for combat use, use IL2 instead.  The 
DeviceLink interface will do anything you need.

g.



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http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

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From rd at ns.sympatico.ca  Wed Jul 29 18:11:04 2009
From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:11:04 -0300
Subject: [simpits-tech] No LeoBodnar?  Try Hagstrom.
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907292333520.6923-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk><00ff01ca1096$d2544f80$0a02a8c0@your384jh9sv0b>
	<20090729222118.3D697622097@mpls-qmqp-03.inet.qwest.net>
Message-ID: <011401ca10b2$9cb65aa0$0a02a8c0@your384jh9sv0b>

Oh Lord.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David C. Allen" <allendc at qwest.net>
To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] No LeoBodnar? Try Hagstrom.


> At 06:52 PM 7/29/2009 -0300, you wrote:
>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Roy Coates" <roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk>
>>To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
>>Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 7:35 PM
>>Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] No LeoBodnar? Try Hagstrom.
>>
>>
>> > On Wed, 29 Jul 2009, Rick Davis wrote:
>> >
>> >> >> > I'm so glad that I'm Gemini.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Don't be too glad Roy. I see by your horoscope that Sagittarius 
>> >> >> will
>> >> >> be
>> >> >> entering Uranus on the full of the moon.
>> >> >
>> >> > Yikes - I hope that's a simulator too !!
>> >> >
>> >> I think it's better known as a "stimulator" Roy.
>> >
>> >
>> > Not in my world it's not Rick!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > must be a Canadian thing... heh....
>>
>>Bwahahaha! Don't think so. But it seems to correspond with the annual Med
>>check-up!
>
> Sounds like a "digital" adventure
>
> David
> www.737flightsim.com

Yea David. Digital is becoming more and more popular. That's why I try to do 
everything with my Firewire now. Analogue is on the way out.

Oh Lord.

R


From allendc at qwest.net  Thu Jul 30 10:04:04 2009
From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:04:04 -0600
Subject: [simpits-tech] Custom Crimper
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907300825430.13744@grumble.deltasoft.com>
References: <20090730015631.C0C8B22DFDE@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0907300825430.13744@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <20090730170447.4A1AE62218B@mpls-qmqp-03.inet.qwest.net>

At 08:29 AM 7/30/2009 -0700, you wrote:
>On Wed, 29 Jul 2009, David C. Allen wrote:
>
> > I needed to crimp some wire rope to some control line terminals for
> > the sim, checking the web the Crimpers are big bucks! Only a person
> > like Gene could afford to have a pair hanging around his man land
> > only to be used one or two times of the F15.
> >
>Pfft.  I can't even evict the moths in my wallet - I need their rent
>money. :)
>
> > http://www.737flightsim.com/cut/cut.html
> >
>
>Poor man's swagging tool!  I love it! :)

If anyone wants the DXF for the jaws, I can send the file.

>I'd love to have something like that to neck-down 1/2" conduit for use as
>pushrods.

You would have to go the 42" bolt cutters for $29.99 LOL

I am going to make a second set of jaws to crimp battery terminals.

David
www.737FlightSim.com 


From allendc at qwest.net  Thu Jul 30 10:09:39 2009
From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:09:39 -0600
Subject: [simpits-tech] Custom Crimper
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0907301649370.8128-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac .uk>
References: <20090730015631.C0C8B22DFDE@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net>
	<Pine.LNX.4.44.0907301649370.8128-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <20090730170946.A6FDF22DC17@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net>

At 04:50 PM 7/30/2009 +0100, you wrote:
>On Wed, 29 Jul 2009, David C. Allen wrote:
>
>
>
>Very nice David.  It's the 'workarounds' like this that make pit building
>so much fun I think :-)

I have to revise my cost, the bolt cutters were only $9.00

The "workaround" was to try and short circuit the money draining out 
of my wallet. But it's nice when one works! !

David
www.737FlightSim.com 


From allendc at qwest.net  Thu Jul 30 18:41:05 2009
From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:41:05 -0600
Subject: [simpits-tech] Custom Crimper Part 2
Message-ID: <20090731014111.191271A9A73@mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net>

Ok holes drilled in the Jaws and the first crimp of a MS20664C looks 
good and I was within .004" of final diameters that the part 
manufacture specifies.  While I acknowledge it not a rotary swage, it 
was also not $50 per swage that the local cable monger wanted.

Tomorrow I will get the proper drill to finish the holes for the 
MS21260 cable ends.

I added pictures of the progress to:

http://www.737flightsim.com/cut/cut.html

David
www.737FlightSim.com


From rd at ns.sympatico.ca  Thu Jul 30 18:56:47 2009
From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:56:47 -0300
Subject: [simpits-tech] Custom Crimper Part 2
References: <20090731014111.191271A9A73@mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net>
Message-ID: <013101ca1182$29e059b0$0a02a8c0@your384jh9sv0b>

That is way cool David.

Necessity is the mother of invention.

Nice job!

R

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David C. Allen" <allendc at qwest.net>
To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 10:41 PM
Subject: [simpits-tech] Custom Crimper Part 2


> Ok holes drilled in the Jaws and the first crimp of a MS20664C looks
> good and I was within .004" of final diameters that the part
> manufacture specifies.  While I acknowledge it not a rotary swage, it
> was also not $50 per swage that the local cable monger wanted.
>
> Tomorrow I will get the proper drill to finish the holes for the
> MS21260 cable ends.
>
> I added pictures of the progress to:
>
> http://www.737flightsim.com/cut/cut.html
>
> David
> www.737FlightSim.com
>
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From phoenixcomm at gmail.com  Thu Jul 30 20:56:05 2009
From: phoenixcomm at gmail.com (Cris Harrison)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:56:05 -0500
Subject: [simpits-tech] Custom Crimper
In-Reply-To: <20090730143739.D01A1627D06@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net>
References: <20090730143739.D01A1627D06@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net>
Message-ID: <008301ca1192$d48f02c0$7dad0840$@com>

David :{
Why the hassle? 
Did you add in your time lets say $10.00/hr + ware and tear on your car @
$1.00/mile.. 
Duh, did you check on eBay, or for heaven's sake why didn't you call me????
Life in the fast lane... 
We try and save a few bucks and spend more than if we just broke down and
got the dam thing in the 
First place!

You'll have a safe landing now...
Cris Harrison
www.phoenixcomm.net/~phnx2000/sim
www.phoenixaerospace.us

-----Original Message-----
From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org
[mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of David C. Allen
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:35 AM
To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List
Subject: [simpits-tech] Custom Crimper

Hello
I needed to crimp some wire rope to some control line terminals for 
the sim, checking the web the Crimpers are big bucks! Only a person 
like Gene could afford to have a pair hanging around his man land 
only to be used one or two times of the F15.

So I visited Harbor Freight, and found a pair of 18 inch bolt cutters 
for under $20usd. Then off to the water jet boys to make some new 
jaws, for around $20usd

Tomorrow I will pick up the end mill to cut the die pattern, around $10usd

While I acknowledge the jaws are not made from tool steel, I am sure 
I can get the 10 or 12 crimps I need!

Here is a link showing the conversion.

http://www.737flightsim.com/cut/cut.html

David
www.737FlightSim.com

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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Fri Jul 31 06:27:33 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:27:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Bodnar sighting.. :)
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0907310626150.31170@grumble.deltasoft.com>


http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?t=336851

Some hardware genius needs to duplicate the BU0836 as an open design along 
the lines of the PHCC so this kind of nonsense won't prevent people from 
getting their hands on this stuff. :((

g.

-- 
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
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