From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Feb 3 06:40:01 2009 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 06:40:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] OpenCockpits IOCards... Message-ID: Is there anyone on the list that uses this hardware? I've been trying to find some documentation on programming this stuff and I'm getting nowhere... http://www.opencockpits.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Forums&file=viewtopic&topic=4497&forum=1 It's like they're hard of thinking or something. I mean how hard is it to understand "need programming documentation"? Gaaah! As you can see in the thread, I've tried one more time for docs... If I don't get a useful response, they're going to be thrown on the one trick pony pile (msfs). g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From frank at rezultat.dk Tue Feb 3 07:08:19 2009 From: frank at rezultat.dk (Frank Riedel) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 16:08:19 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] OpenCockpits IOCards... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <301577ABC3DD45B48ACE5459419FFC2B@frankzepto> Please - anyone - help G. as we need a HW setup for he's PITKIT -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] P? vegne af Gene Buckle Sendt: 3. februar 2009 15:40 Til: simpits-tech at simpits.org Emne: [simpits-tech] OpenCockpits IOCards... Is there anyone on the list that uses this hardware? I've been trying to find some documentation on programming this stuff and I'm getting nowhere... http://www.opencockpits.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Forums&file=viewtopi c&topic=4497&forum=1 It's like they're hard of thinking or something. I mean how hard is it to understand "need programming documentation"? Gaaah! As you can see in the thread, I've tried one more time for docs... If I don't get a useful response, they're going to be thrown on the one trick pony pile (msfs). g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Tue Feb 3 08:40:25 2009 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 16:40:25 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] OpenCockpits IOCards... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 3 Feb 2009, Gene Buckle wrote: > Is there anyone on the list that uses this hardware? I've been trying to > find some documentation on programming this stuff and I'm getting nowhere... > Isn't it there in the downloads section under (software) ? Of course, you'll need to learn spanish :-) -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Feb 3 07:44:43 2009 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 07:44:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] OpenCockpits IOCards... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 3 Feb 2009, Roy Coates wrote: > On Tue, 3 Feb 2009, Gene Buckle wrote: > >> Is there anyone on the list that uses this hardware? I've been trying to >> find some documentation on programming this stuff and I'm getting nowhere... >> > > Isn't it there in the downloads section under (software) ? > Nope. There's a DLL available for download, but the docs are useless even before I feed them into translate.google.com The hardware looks really promising, especially at the price point it's at, but if they won't provide documentation on it, it might as well not exist. It's at the point where I just don't have the time to dick around with them - if they can't provide the docs, then I'll be damned if I'm going to waste a dime of my money or another minute of my time. I don't have any extra of eitehr to spare. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Tue Feb 3 08:51:34 2009 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 16:51:34 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] OpenCockpits IOCards... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 3 Feb 2009, Gene Buckle wrote: > > Isn't it there in the downloads section under (software) ? > > > > Nope. There's a DLL available for download, but the docs are useless even > before I feed them into translate.google.com > > The hardware looks really promising, especially at the price point it's > at, but if they won't provide documentation on it, it might as well not > exist. > > It's at the point where I just don't have the time to dick around with > them - if they can't provide the docs, then I'll be damned if I'm going to > waste a dime of my money or another minute of my time. I don't have any > extra of eitehr to spare. This is sounding like another "it works fine with MSFS" type company. I got bitten by one of those too. :-( -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Feb 3 08:02:12 2009 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:02:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] OpenCockpits IOCards... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 3 Feb 2009, Roy Coates wrote: > On Tue, 3 Feb 2009, Gene Buckle wrote: > >>> Isn't it there in the downloads section under (software) ? >>> >> >> Nope. There's a DLL available for download, but the docs are useless even >> before I feed them into translate.google.com >> >> The hardware looks really promising, especially at the price point it's >> at, but if they won't provide documentation on it, it might as well not >> exist. >> >> It's at the point where I just don't have the time to dick around with >> them - if they can't provide the docs, then I'll be damned if I'm going to >> waste a dime of my money or another minute of my time. I don't have any >> extra of eitehr to spare. > > > This is sounding like another "it works fine with MSFS" type company. > > I got bitten by one of those too. :-( > What blows me away is that they basically give it all away. You can download the gerber files for the boards and everything. I just checked the site and they don't provide source code for the PICs either, just hex files. If I could get my hands on the PIC source I could probably puzzle out the protocol myself if I had to. >From what I can tell, there is no way to get out from under this SIOC application they use. For my purposes, that's a big bucket of fail. They need to take a hard look at PHCC to see how to do this kind of thing _right_. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From dave_friend at tiscali.co.uk Tue Feb 3 10:08:18 2009 From: dave_friend at tiscali.co.uk (Dave) Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 18:08:18 +0000 Subject: [simpits-tech] OpenCockpits IOCards... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49888812.2000206@tiscali.co.uk> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20090203/b08ee350/attachment-0001.html From crease-guard at sbcglobal.net Tue Feb 3 12:45:25 2009 From: crease-guard at sbcglobal.net (Joseph Fagner) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 14:45:25 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] OpenCockpits IOCards... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <82302094DE664A7182F4F41B0916E08A@flightsystems> This is typical of the MSFS community. You can never get any of these guys to allow you to interface with their stuff. This is the same thing Leo ran into when he tried to break into the MSFS community. Gene, I assume your interface is compatable with the PHCC? When will you have a beta for testing with...specifically for falcon 4.0? No one has yet release a functional piece of software for PHCC. Jay Show me a man who cannot be bothered to do the little things, and I will show you a man who cannot be trusted to do the big ones. --Lawrence Bell, Founder Bell Helicopter -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Gene Buckle Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 8:40 AM To: simpits-tech at simpits.org Subject: [simpits-tech] OpenCockpits IOCards... Is there anyone on the list that uses this hardware? I've been trying to find some documentation on programming this stuff and I'm getting nowhere... http://www.opencockpits.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Forums&file=viewtopi c&topic=4497&forum=1 It's like they're hard of thinking or something. I mean how hard is it to understand "need programming documentation"? Gaaah! As you can see in the thread, I've tried one more time for docs... If I don't get a useful response, they're going to be thrown on the one trick pony pile (msfs). g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From alex at flyinglow.ca Tue Feb 3 13:18:14 2009 From: alex at flyinglow.ca (Alex Wiebe) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 15:18:14 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] [(even more)OT] Joke... Message-ID: <76a0ed220902031318n61a51a29l596db9a63208b3e2@mail.gmail.com> > > Today's Topics: > > 1. [OT] Joke... (Gene Buckle) > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:11:51 -0800 (PST) > From: Gene Buckle > Subject: [simpits-tech] [OT] Joke... > > A gynecologist had become fed up with > malpractice insurance and HMO paperwork, and was burned out. Hoping to > try another career where skillful hands would be beneficial; he decided > to become a mechanic. > ... > After a pause, the instructor added, "I gave you an extra 50% > because you did it all through the muffler, which I've never seen done > in my entire career!" > Seems this may be closer to reality then one might have guessed.... http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/02/03/kidney.vagina.surgery/index.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20090203/8f3c767a/attachment.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Feb 3 13:45:20 2009 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:45:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] OpenCockpits IOCards... In-Reply-To: <49888812.2000206@tiscali.co.uk> References: <49888812.2000206@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: On Tue, 3 Feb 2009, Dave wrote: > Gene > I don't know if this guy is a member but he uses IOcards check the link > and maybe drop him a line > > http://www.lekseecon.nl/simulator.html > He's apparently using the SIOC interface. Thanks for the suggestion though. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Feb 3 13:54:19 2009 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:54:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] OpenCockpits IOCards... In-Reply-To: <82302094DE664A7182F4F41B0916E08A@flightsystems> References: <82302094DE664A7182F4F41B0916E08A@flightsystems> Message-ID: > This is typical of the MSFS community. You can never get any of these guys > to allow you to interface with their stuff. This is the same thing Leo ran > into when he tried to break into the MSFS community. > I suspect that has more to do with Leo's ability to make Ghandi angry enough to kick his ass. :) > Gene, I assume your interface is compatable with the PHCC? When will you > have a beta for testing with...specifically for falcon 4.0? > It's not yet. I'm still finishing off the diy cockpit docs. That should be done soon. I was inquiring about the OC hardware because Frank R. pointed it out to me. I've got the PHCC hardware built ( the main board and in input module so far), but I haven't had the time to dig into it further. > No one has yet release a functional piece of software for PHCC. > I distinctly recall seeing something for the PHCC and Falcon. It was on "lightning's" site (or something close to that - I don't have the url handy) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From crease-guard at sbcglobal.net Tue Feb 3 15:28:11 2009 From: crease-guard at sbcglobal.net (Joseph Fagner) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 17:28:11 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] OpenCockpits IOCards... In-Reply-To: References: <82302094DE664A7182F4F41B0916E08A@flightsystems> Message-ID: <6117F0AB9BDC4FAAA199CA1CF8DDDF31@flightsystems> > This is typical of the MSFS community. You can never get any of these guys > to allow you to interface with their stuff. This is the same thing Leo ran > into when he tried to break into the MSFS community. > I suspect that has more to do with Leo's ability to make Ghandi angry enough to kick his ass. :) --Ok, this may be the funniest line ever, I can't stop laughing. > Gene, I assume your interface is compatable with the PHCC? When will you > have a beta for testing with...specifically for falcon 4.0? > It's not yet. I'm still finishing off the diy cockpit docs. That should be done soon. I was inquiring about the OC hardware because Frank R. pointed it out to me. I've got the PHCC hardware built ( the main board and in input module so far), but I haven't had the time to dig into it further. --Gotcha. > No one has yet release a functional piece of software for PHCC. > I distinctly recall seeing something for the PHCC and Falcon. It was on "lightning's" site (or something close to that - I don't have the url handy) --I think he did a wrapper of sorts to allow you to write stuff to interface. My understanding is you can do the switches but nothing else so far. Jay -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20090203/a2f78b9f/attachment.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Feb 3 15:51:54 2009 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 15:51:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] OpenCockpits IOCards... In-Reply-To: <6117F0AB9BDC4FAAA199CA1CF8DDDF31@flightsystems> References: <82302094DE664A7182F4F41B0916E08A@flightsystems> <6117F0AB9BDC4FAAA199CA1CF8DDDF31@flightsystems> Message-ID: On Tue, 3 Feb 2009, Joseph Fagner wrote: > > I suspect that has more to do with Leo's ability to make Ghandi angry > > enough to kick his ass. :) > > > --Ok, this may be the funniest line ever, I can't stop laughing. > Thanks, I'll be here all week. Don't forget to tip your waitress. (but please, tip her back up when you're done) >> No one has yet release a functional piece of software for PHCC. > >> > I distinctly recall seeing something for the PHCC and Falcon. It was on > > "lightning's" site (or something close to that - I don't have the url > > handy) > > --I think he did a wrapper of sorts to allow you to write stuff to > interface. My understanding is you can do the switches but nothing else so > far. > Ahh, ok. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From rd at ns.sympatico.ca Tue Feb 3 16:00:41 2009 From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:00:41 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] OpenCockpits IOCards... References: <82302094DE664A7182F4F41B0916E08A@flightsystems><6117F0AB9BDC4FAAA199CA1CF8DDDF31@flightsystems> Message-ID: <00e601c9865b$9e7a2240$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> Gene, Is there a way to send a couple pics up? I have a couple boards here myself I know nothing about. I have no documentation for them at all. One is photon GPS 530 interface and the other is some sort of GoFlight Card. Thought someone on here may be able to identify them up close. Rick From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Feb 3 18:08:03 2009 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 18:08:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] OpenCockpits IOCards... In-Reply-To: <00e601c9865b$9e7a2240$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> References: <82302094DE664A7182F4F41B0916E08A@flightsystems><6117F0AB9BDC4FAAA199CA1CF8DDDF31@flightsystems> <00e601c9865b$9e7a2240$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> Message-ID: On Tue, 3 Feb 2009, Rick Davis wrote: > Gene, > > Is there a way to send a couple pics up? > > I have a couple boards here myself I know nothing about. I have no > documentation for them at all. One is photon GPS 530 interface and the > other is some sort of GoFlight Card. > > Thought someone on here may be able to identify them up close. > Rick, you're welcome to email them directly to me and I'll post 'em on the blog. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From rd at ns.sympatico.ca Wed Feb 4 03:11:53 2009 From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:11:53 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] OpenCockpits IOCards... References: <82302094DE664A7182F4F41B0916E08A@flightsystems><6117F0AB9BDC4FAAA199CA1CF8DDDF31@flightsystems><00e601c9865b$9e7a2240$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> Message-ID: <002801c986b9$63167e20$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> Thanks Gene, I'll try to get them up to you sometime today. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Buckle" To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] OpenCockpits IOCards... > On Tue, 3 Feb 2009, Rick Davis wrote: > >> Gene, >> >> Is there a way to send a couple pics up? >> >> I have a couple boards here myself I know nothing about. I have no >> documentation for them at all. One is photon GPS 530 interface and the >> other is some sort of GoFlight Card. >> >> Thought someone on here may be able to identify them up close. >> > > Rick, you're welcome to email them directly to me and I'll post 'em on the > blog. > > g. > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! From geneb at deltasoft.com Wed Feb 4 06:27:27 2009 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:27:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] board mystery... Message-ID: I've just put up three images of some boards that Rick is trying to identify. If you folks would stop by the simpits.org home page and check 'em out, I'd appriciate it. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From timothyboldt at comcast.net Wed Feb 4 06:53:36 2009 From: timothyboldt at comcast.net (Timothy James Boldt) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:53:36 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] board mystery... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The first one is a USB to general purpose digital I/O bridge, for interfacing to switches, LEDs, and other hardware. Here: http://www.devasys.com/usbi2cio.htm The 2nd pic is a Photon GPS add-on board. IFS is now defunct and without the main Photon board to connect it to, you may be out of luck. They were interfaces made for (and about the time of) FS2004, using FSCockpit. As for the last one, ???? Although, it does use a Hagstrom chip. Maybe they could help out? Here: http://www.hagstromelectronics.com/index.html Tim -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Gene Buckle Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 9:27 AM To: simpits-tech at simpits.org Subject: [simpits-tech] board mystery... I've just put up three images of some boards that Rick is trying to identify. If you folks would stop by the simpits.org home page and check 'em out, I'd appriciate it. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.17/1934 - Release Date: 02/04/09 08:24:00 From rd at ns.sympatico.ca Wed Feb 4 07:13:32 2009 From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 11:13:32 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] board mystery... References: Message-ID: <009601c986db$24e3abb0$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy James Boldt" To: "'Simulator Cockpit Builder's List'" Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] board mystery... > The first one is a USB to general purpose digital I/O bridge, for > interfacing to switches, LEDs, and other hardware. > Here: http://www.devasys.com/usbi2cio.htm > > The 2nd pic is a Photon GPS add-on board. IFS is now defunct and without > the main Photon board to connect it to, you may be out of luck. They > were interfaces made for (and about the time of) FS2004, using > FSCockpit. > > As for the last one, ???? > Although, it does use a Hagstrom chip. Maybe they could help out? > Here: http://www.hagstromelectronics.com/index.html > > Tim Thanks Tim, These were all included in a package of stuff I purchased. Hagstrom was unable to help aside from identifying the chip. Since IFS has gone South, I guess that's why I couldn't find any info on the Photon board. The monitor on the "530" has a direct rca jack in, so the possibility exists to run the Local Map on that. I suppose I could wire the switches on it to the I/O bridge or the plasma card I have here as well. (also now defunct) I was hoping to get a bit more documentation on them, unfortunately I didn't. Perhaps I'l hunt around for the main Photon board if one still exists tucked away in a shoebox somewhere. But your note suggests it likely won't work with X-Plane anyway? Thanks again, Rick > > > -----Original Message----- > From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org > [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Gene Buckle > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 9:27 AM > To: simpits-tech at simpits.org > Subject: [simpits-tech] board mystery... > > > I've just put up three images of some boards that Rick is trying to > identify. If you folks would stop by the simpits.org home page and > check > 'em out, I'd appriciate it. > > g. > > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - > www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.17/1934 - Release Date: > 02/04/09 08:24:00 > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! From mi.hi at gmx.net Wed Feb 4 07:18:58 2009 From: mi.hi at gmx.net (Michael Hirczy) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:18:58 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] OpenCockpits IOCards... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4989B1E2.8050103@gmx.net> Gene Buckle wrote: > Is there anyone on the list that uses this hardware? I've been trying to > find some documentation on programming this stuff and I'm getting nowhere... > > http://www.opencockpits.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Forums&file=viewtopic&topic=4497&forum=1 > > It's like they're hard of thinking or something. I mean how hard is it to > understand "need programming documentation"? Gaaah! > > As you can see in the thread, I've tried one more time for docs... If I > don't get a useful response, they're going to be thrown on the one trick > pony pile (msfs). I did a Falcon to SIOC converter software called FAST. Communicating with the SIOC server is as easy as possible, IMHO. It's just getting and setting variables, the rest is done in SIOC. Gene, contact me through mail, I'll send you my sourcecode (although VB6), hopefully you'll be able to read it ;) greetings michi From timothyboldt at comcast.net Wed Feb 4 07:28:06 2009 From: timothyboldt at comcast.net (Timothy James Boldt) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 10:28:06 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] OpenCockpits IOCards... In-Reply-To: <4989B1E2.8050103@gmx.net> Message-ID: <298A301455D844229B16D43E9396F879@office> Michi - I was just going to contact you over @ SimHQ. Any progress on EEST? I know GlynD was working on it, too. If I may, I would like a copy of the FAST sourcecode, to play around with, too. And anything you got from Retro, regarding CommServer. (And I may need to pick your brain a bit, regarding SIOC. :-) ) Tim -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Michael Hirczy Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 10:19 AM To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] OpenCockpits IOCards... Gene Buckle wrote: > Is there anyone on the list that uses this hardware? I've been trying > to > find some documentation on programming this stuff and I'm getting nowhere... > > http://www.opencockpits.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Forums&file=vi > ewtopic&topic=4497&forum=1 > > It's like they're hard of thinking or something. I mean how hard is > it to > understand "need programming documentation"? Gaaah! > > As you can see in the thread, I've tried one more time for docs... If > I > don't get a useful response, they're going to be thrown on the one trick > pony pile (msfs). I did a Falcon to SIOC converter software called FAST. Communicating with the SIOC server is as easy as possible, IMHO. It's just getting and setting variables, the rest is done in SIOC. Gene, contact me through mail, I'll send you my sourcecode (although VB6), hopefully you'll be able to read it ;) greetings michi _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.17/1934 - Release Date: 02/04/09 08:24:00 From geneb at deltasoft.com Wed Feb 4 07:49:20 2009 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:49:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] OpenCockpits IOCards... In-Reply-To: <4989B1E2.8050103@gmx.net> References: <4989B1E2.8050103@gmx.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 4 Feb 2009, Michael Hirczy wrote: > > I did a Falcon to SIOC converter software called FAST. Communicating > with the SIOC server is as easy as possible, IMHO. It's just getting and > setting variables, the rest is done in SIOC. > Michi, I appriciate the offer, but having SIOC in the middle is exactly what I don't want. I wanted information on how to program the hardware directly, without anything between my app and the hardware. Apparently they are unable or unwilling to provide that documentation. This basically means that while the IOcards hardware is kind of neat and potentially useful, it's completely useless for those unwilling or unable to drink the MSFS/SIOC kool-aide. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From phoenixcomm at gmail.com Wed Feb 4 11:21:33 2009 From: phoenixcomm at gmail.com (Cris Harrison) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 13:21:33 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] OpenCockpits IOCards... In-Reply-To: <4989B1E2.8050103@gmx.net> References: <4989B1E2.8050103@gmx.net> Message-ID: <4989EABD.3080000@gmail.com> Michael Hirczy wrote: > Gene Buckle wrote: > >> Is there anyone on the list that uses this hardware? I've been trying to >> find some documentation on programming this stuff and I'm getting nowhere... >> >> http://www.opencockpits.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Forums&file=viewtopic&topic=4497&forum=1 >> >> It's like they're hard of thinking or something. I mean how hard is it to >> understand "need programming documentation"? Gaaah! >> >> As you can see in the thread, I've tried one more time for docs... If I >> don't get a useful response, they're going to be thrown on the one trick >> pony pile (msfs). >> > > Nay, Nay said the little red hen, no I use these puppies, I have a bout 10 units (used) they all had to be reprogramed so the usb would work. but that no problem... and since its programable I/O for my NAV computer hardware: http://www.tpub.com/content/ahapache/TM-1-1520-238-T-1/css/TM-1-1520-238-T-1_088.htm which has been gutted buy all of the displays and switches are there so I use the card and I program it. you do the keyboard has been rewired to output 0-D via priorty encoders, and then each switch goes to hex latch, 2 switches per latch so 1 latch for the two rotary switches 1 latch for the two thumb wheel switches 1 latch the the keyboard it self the following drives the display 1 latch /decoder 14bit one for each display (mux out) 1 latch / decoder 16 bits for drive (mux out) a bad sim of it. http://www.phoenixcomm.net/~phnx2000/sim/demo/demo.html most of what it is is code in C Cris Harrison www.phoenixcomm.net/~phnx2000/sim > I did a Falcon to SIOC converter software called FAST. Communicating > with the SIOC server is as easy as possible, IMHO. It's just getting and > setting variables, the rest is done in SIOC. > > Gene, contact me through mail, I'll send you my sourcecode (although > VB6), hopefully you'll be able to read it ;) > > greetings > michi > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > > From phoenixcomm at gmail.com Wed Feb 4 11:37:35 2009 From: phoenixcomm at gmail.com (Cris Harrison) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 13:37:35 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] board mystery... In-Reply-To: <009601c986db$24e3abb0$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> References: <009601c986db$24e3abb0$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> Message-ID: <4989EE7F.1060401@gmail.com> Rick Davis wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Timothy James Boldt" > To: "'Simulator Cockpit Builder's List'" > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 10:53 AM > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] board mystery... > > > >> The first one is a USB to general purpose digital I/O bridge, for >> interfacing to switches, LEDs, and other hardware. >> Here: http://www.devasys.com/usbi2cio.htm >> Nay, Nay said the little red hen, no I use these puppies, I have a bout 10 units (used) they all had to be reprogramed so the usb would work. but that no problem... and since its programable I/O for my NAV computer hardware: http://www.tpub.com/content/ahapache/TM-1-1520-238-T-1/css/TM-1-1520-238-T-1_088.htm which has been gutted buy all of the displays and switches are there so I use the card and I program it. you do the keyboard has been rewired to output 0-D via priorty encoders, and then each switch goes to hex latch, 2 switches per latch so 1 latch for the two rotary switches 1 latch for the two thumb wheel switches 1 latch the the keyboard it self 1 latch /decoder 14bit one for each display 1 latch / decoder 16 bits a bad sim of it. http://www.phoenixcomm.net/~phnx2000/sim/demo/demo.html BTW i am also rewriting the code so I can plug them into a UNIX box and use my streams drivers. Cris Harrison www.phoenixcomm.net/~phnx2000/sim www.phoenixaerospace.us www.avi-tronix.com >> The 2nd pic is a Photon GPS add-on board. IFS is now defunct and without >> the main Photon board to connect it to, you may be out of luck. They >> were interfaces made for (and about the time of) FS2004, using >> FSCockpit. >> >> As for the last one, ???? >> Although, it does use a Hagstrom chip. Maybe they could help out? >> Here: http://www.hagstromelectronics.com/index.html >> >> Tim >> > > Thanks Tim, > > These were all included in a package of stuff I purchased. Hagstrom was > unable to help aside from identifying the chip. > > Since IFS has gone South, I guess that's why I couldn't find any info on the > Photon board. The monitor on the "530" has a direct rca jack in, so the > possibility exists to run the Local Map on that. I suppose I could wire the > switches on it to the I/O bridge or the plasma card I have here as well. > (also now defunct) I was hoping to get a bit more documentation on them, > unfortunately I didn't. > > Perhaps I'l hunt around for the main Photon board if one still exists tucked > away in a shoebox somewhere. But your note suggests it likely won't work > with X-Plane anyway? > > Thanks again, > > Rick > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org >> [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Gene Buckle >> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 9:27 AM >> To: simpits-tech at simpits.org >> Subject: [simpits-tech] board mystery... >> >> >> I've just put up three images of some boards that Rick is trying to >> identify. If you folks would stop by the simpits.org home page and >> check >> 'em out, I'd appriciate it. >> >> g. >> >> >> -- >> Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 >> http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Simpits-tech mailing list >> Simpits-tech at simpits.org >> http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >> To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above >> page. Thanks! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - >> www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.17/1934 - Release Date: >> 02/04/09 08:24:00 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Simpits-tech mailing list >> Simpits-tech at simpits.org >> http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >> To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above >> page. Thanks! >> > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > > From geneb at deltasoft.com Wed Feb 4 12:34:13 2009 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 12:34:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] OpenCockpits IOCards... In-Reply-To: <4989EABD.3080000@gmail.com> References: <4989B1E2.8050103@gmx.net> <4989EABD.3080000@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 4 Feb 2009, Cris Harrison wrote: > Michael Hirczy wrote: >> Gene Buckle wrote: >> >>> Is there anyone on the list that uses this hardware? I've been trying to >>> find some documentation on programming this stuff and I'm getting nowhere... >>> >>> http://www.opencockpits.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Forums&file=viewtopic&topic=4497&forum=1 >>> >>> It's like they're hard of thinking or something. I mean how hard is it to >>> understand "need programming documentation"? Gaaah! >>> >>> As you can see in the thread, I've tried one more time for docs... If I >>> don't get a useful response, they're going to be thrown on the one trick >>> pony pile (msfs). >>> >> >> > Nay, Nay said the little red hen, no I use these puppies, I have a bout > 10 units (used) they all had to be reprogramed so the usb would work. > but that no problem... and since its programable I/O for my NAV computer Did you actually _read_ that thread? The hardware I'm talking about connects via the parallel port. It has no USB support at all! /me sends the hen to the rendering plant g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Sat Feb 7 07:32:26 2009 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 07:32:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] PHCC interface kits... Message-ID: For those interested, Kim over at viperpits.org is starting a new run of PHCC interface kits. You can read the details here: http://www.viperpits.org/smf/index.php?topic=4534.0 This is where I got a number of my PHCC boards from. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil Wed Feb 11 01:06:04 2009 From: bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil (Brian Sikkema) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 04:06:04 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] C-17 goes crunch Message-ID: <603925c8c93949e7951300838f6930aa.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> ??i??0?&?j)???&??%u?????}?-?-{?????Z?????????z?^???????)?????"?*'??az?aj{ax3i???????????l? ????j??? (u??zwh???????(!?z0"???\?j{m??$???~?^?z0???u?Z?[??!z???`?j?^??'??&????&??????????^?(!??z?+z?h??"?j{lk&?q??z?^?{????j???+(? "? h?8Z? .???m?Hv???+pj?^??h?l??+i????m???????,~??????u??[x?.z??&???m???z'??mj?Zr?????+???t??zz-j?????y Message-ID: <752985.17459.qm@web111509.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I doubt that crew does any more flying in the Air Force.... Justin ? ? ? ?http://www.iasa-intl.com/folders/belfast/C17gearupBagram.htm Notice the gear lever in the "U-P" position, rather than the "D-N" position. Not a good sign. I have a very good friend over there right now. I really want to ask her if she knows any details.... but she's from Charleston, so I'm really afraid that if I do she might have to respond with "I can't say because the investigation is ongoing..." lol. That would be bad. I doubt it was her, though, she graduated top of our class for a reason. We'll see, I guess... Brian _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm working on knocking out the diy cockpit manual and I'll start working on support for the PHCC hardware. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From allendc at qwest.net Tue Feb 17 18:45:45 2009 From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 19:45:45 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] Open note to Gene In-Reply-To: References: <20090217210627.382D222DF7C@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: <20090218024551.093621A99B9@mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net> Gene I know "It's as done as it's gonna get unfortunately" is a secret encrypted message, but did you ever get the analog stuff working. I need to clean out and Leo's stuff is heading for the trash without a way to get it operational. David www.737FlightSim.com At 06:35 PM 2/17/2009 -0800, you wrote: >On Tue, 17 Feb 2009, David C. Allen wrote: > > > Hi Gene > > Are you still working on the interface software for the Beta Innovations? > > >It's as done as it's gonna get unfortunately. I'm working on knocking out >the diy cockpit manual and I'll start working on support for the PHCC >hardware. > >g. > >-- >Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 >http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > >_______________________________________________ >Simpits-tech mailing list >Simpits-tech at simpits.org >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the >above page. Thanks! > > >__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >signature database 3863 (20090218) __________ > >The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > >http://www.eset.com From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Feb 17 19:34:16 2009 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 19:34:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Open note to Gene In-Reply-To: <20090218024551.093621A99B9@mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net> References: <20090217210627.382D222DF7C@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> <20090218024551.093621A99B9@mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: > Gene > I know "It's as done as it's gonna get unfortunately" is a secret > encrypted message, but did you ever get the analog stuff working. I > need to clean out and Leo's stuff is heading for the trash without a > way to get it operational. > Give me a ring and we'll go from there. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Feb 20 16:15:16 2009 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 16:15:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] diy cockpit project manual.... Message-ID: One of the things I've decided about this project is to release the instruction manual for free. That lets people really understand what they're getting into before they spend the money on plan set. This evening I finished the instructions for the end caps. This is the last component you'll build if you're not going to be adding the windscreen and canopy. Tomorrow I'll get more done, but for now this is where it's at: http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/instruction_manual.pdf The manual is not completed yet. I'll be making a few revisions to the text as it is now as well as adding things like a table of contents and front pictures. The manual is far from done - I still need to show the final assembly as well as the details on assembling the canopy & windscreen. Enjoy! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From frank at rezultat.dk Sat Feb 21 09:46:19 2009 From: frank at rezultat.dk (Frank Riedel) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 18:46:19 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] diy cockpit project manual.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <92BCF1B3D42F4CCEACA9399D03D69F8F@frankzepto> WONDERFULL WORK g. -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] P? vegne af Gene Buckle Sendt: 21. februar 2009 01:15 Til: simpits-tech at simpits.org Emne: [simpits-tech] diy cockpit project manual.... One of the things I've decided about this project is to release the instruction manual for free. That lets people really understand what they're getting into before they spend the money on plan set. This evening I finished the instructions for the end caps. This is the last component you'll build if you're not going to be adding the windscreen and canopy. Tomorrow I'll get more done, but for now this is where it's at: http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/instruction_manual.pdf The manual is not completed yet. I'll be making a few revisions to the text as it is now as well as adding things like a table of contents and front pictures. The manual is far from done - I still need to show the final assembly as well as the details on assembling the canopy & windscreen. Enjoy! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From catalina299 at gmail.com Sat Feb 21 10:05:08 2009 From: catalina299 at gmail.com (William Segal) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 10:05:08 -0800 Subject: [simpits-tech] diy cockpit project manual.... In-Reply-To: <92BCF1B3D42F4CCEACA9399D03D69F8F@frankzepto> References: <92BCF1B3D42F4CCEACA9399D03D69F8F@frankzepto> Message-ID: <3a0a6c680902211005t583a94e8g1856e3153667caa5@mail.gmail.com> Yes! I'm I am impressed not so much soo much with the cockpit but the plans and the drawings and the 3 dimensional layout views very elegantand full like a Magnum Bill On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Frank Riedel wrote: > WONDERFULL WORK g. > > -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > Fra: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org > [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] P? vegne af Gene Buckle > Sendt: 21. februar 2009 01:15 > Til: simpits-tech at simpits.org > Emne: [simpits-tech] diy cockpit project manual.... > > One of the things I've decided about this project is to release the > instruction manual for free. That lets people really understand what > they're getting into before they spend the money on plan set. > > This evening I finished the instructions for the end caps. This is the > last component you'll build if you're not going to be adding the > windscreen and canopy. Tomorrow I'll get more done, but for now this is > where it's at: > > http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/instruction_manual.pdf > > The manual is not completed yet. I'll be making a few revisions to the > text as it is now as well as adding things like a table of contents and > front pictures. The manual is far from done - I still need to show the > final assembly as well as the details on assembling the canopy & > windscreen. > > Enjoy! > > g. > > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. > Thanks! > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <92BCF1B3D42F4CCEACA9399D03D69F8F@frankzepto> References: <92BCF1B3D42F4CCEACA9399D03D69F8F@frankzepto> Message-ID: On Sat, 21 Feb 2009, Frank Riedel wrote: > WONDERFULL WORK g. > Thanks Frank! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Sat Feb 21 13:18:59 2009 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 13:18:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] diy cockpit project manual.... In-Reply-To: <49A0559F.7040207@tiscali.co.uk> References: <49A0559F.7040207@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: > I presume the sheet materials are all 8' x 4' standard sheets? It wasn't > mentioned in the BoM. > Yes. Good catch Dave, thanks. I'll make the change. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From adm.design at verizon.net Mon Feb 23 11:58:53 2009 From: adm.design at verizon.net (Alan D. Mazurka) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:58:53 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] diy cockpit project manual.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0KFJ001GRBIAEXO4@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, Gene. even though you admit shortcomings, i find the manual very interesting. one possible market might be for the woodworker who wants to give his grandson the ultimate toy. i'm serious about this one, since the manual reminded me more of a model-shipbuilding kit more than anything else. people armed with basic woodworking equipment might view this project in a very different manner - as opposed ( or i should say in addition ) to the current intended market - adm - At 07:15 PM 2/20/2009, you wrote: >One of the things I've decided about this project is to release the >instruction manual for free. That lets people really understand what >they're getting into before they spend the money on plan set. ---------- Alan D. Mazurka adm.design at verizon.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20090223/279a4304/attachment.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Feb 23 13:16:15 2009 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 13:16:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] diy cockpit project manual.... In-Reply-To: <0KFJ001GRBIAEXO4@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> References: <0KFJ001GRBIAEXO4@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: On Mon, 23 Feb 2009, Alan D. Mazurka wrote: > Hi, Gene. > > even though you admit shortcomings, i find the manual very interesting. > Thanks. > one possible market might be for the woodworker who wants to give his > grandson the ultimate toy. > > i'm serious about this one, since the manual reminded me more of a > model-shipbuilding kit more than anything else. people armed with basic > woodworking equipment might view this project in a very different manner - as > opposed ( or i should say in addition ) to the current intended market > Now that is something that I'd never thought of. When the plan sets go on sale, they'll be sold through a web site called Etsy, which is kind of like eBay, but only for hand-made goods. Who knows who'll find it? :) Thanks for the idea though - I'll have to post something over at Sawmill Creek and see what falls out. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Feb 23 13:51:19 2009 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 13:51:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] DIY cockpit... Message-ID: Ok, first of all I've got to admit, skipping an entire chapter is embarassing as all hell. I am still scratching my head on how I went from Chapter Two to Chapter Four... I guess that's what happens when you hire a cat to be a proofreader, eh? :) The "standard" version of the cockpit is done and as promised, I've posted a new version of the manual for you folks to look at. If you see any errors, blame the cat. http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/series_one.pdf 90 pages. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From catalina299 at gmail.com Mon Feb 23 14:44:05 2009 From: catalina299 at gmail.com (William Segal) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:44:05 -0800 Subject: [simpits-tech] diy cockpit project manual.... In-Reply-To: <0KFJ001GRBIAEXO4@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> References: <0KFJ001GRBIAEXO4@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <3a0a6c680902231444p4b056ac4j7ea9b62359dd347@mail.gmail.com> Gene: I need a controller that does not use keystrokes that has the capability to handle 10 joystick inputs We are using a Hagstrom KE-108 for other use ..... We would like a separate Joystick controller stand alone. Could you give us a Recommendation. Regards Bill -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20090223/d151e2e1/attachment.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Feb 23 14:50:29 2009 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:50:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] diy cockpit project manual.... In-Reply-To: <3a0a6c680902231444p4b056ac4j7ea9b62359dd347@mail.gmail.com> References: <0KFJ001GRBIAEXO4@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> <3a0a6c680902231444p4b056ac4j7ea9b62359dd347@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 23 Feb 2009, William Segal wrote: > Gene: > I need a controller that does not use keystrokes > > that has the capability to handle 10 joystick inputs > > We are using a Hagstrom KE-108 for other use ..... > > We would like a separate Joystick controller stand alone. > > Could you give us a Recommendation. > If you want something that will appear as a joystick, try Leo Bodnar's BU0836 Precision Joystick Controller. It'll give you 8 axes and 32 buttons. http://www.leobodnar.com/products/BU0836/ g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From SukitS at state.gov Mon Feb 23 16:47:33 2009 From: SukitS at state.gov (Sittisudjatum, Sukit ) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 07:47:33 +0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] diy cockpit project manual.... In-Reply-To: References: <0KFJ001GRBIAEXO4@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net><3a0a6c680902231444p4b056ac4j7ea9b62359dd347@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <08987840E06E98429FB92737378EB84801E0BA68@BANGKOKMB03.eap.state.sbu> Great job, Gene!!! Thanks for your time and effort for the community. Sukit -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Gene Buckle Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 5:50 AM To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] diy cockpit project manual.... On Mon, 23 Feb 2009, William Segal wrote: > Gene: > I need a controller that does not use keystrokes > > that has the capability to handle 10 joystick inputs > > We are using a Hagstrom KE-108 for other use ..... > > We would like a separate Joystick controller stand alone. > > Could you give us a Recommendation. > If you want something that will appear as a joystick, try Leo Bodnar's BU0836 Precision Joystick Controller. It'll give you 8 axes and 32 buttons. http://www.leobodnar.com/products/BU0836/ g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From sean.g at paradise.net.nz Mon Feb 23 22:29:06 2009 From: sean.g at paradise.net.nz (Sean Galbraith) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 19:29:06 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] diy cockpit project manual.... In-Reply-To: References: <0KFJ001GRBIAEXO4@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> <3a0a6c680902231444p4b056ac4j7ea9b62359dd347@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0KFK004Z34ON5N10@smtp3.clear.net.nz> >If you want something that will appear as a joystick, try Leo Bodnar's >BU0836 Precision Joystick Controller. It'll give you 8 axes and 32 >buttons. > >http://www.leobodnar.com/products/BU0836/ What Gene said... these things are great, and I am about to order a bunch more for random projects :) SeanG From sean.g at paradise.net.nz Tue Feb 24 01:24:15 2009 From: sean.g at paradise.net.nz (Sean Galbraith) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 22:24:15 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] diy cockpit project manual.... In-Reply-To: <0KFJ001GRBIAEXO4@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> References: <0KFJ001GRBIAEXO4@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <0KFK00KXHCSJDU10@smtp3.clear.net.nz> At 08:58 a.m. 24/02/2009, you wrote: >Hi, Gene. > >even though you admit shortcomings, i find the manual very interesting. > >one possible market might be for the woodworker who wants to give >his grandson the ultimate toy. > >i'm serious about this one, since the manual reminded me more of a >model-shipbuilding kit more than anything else. people armed with >basic woodworking equipment might view this project in a very >different manner - as opposed ( or i should say in addition ) to the >current intended market > > - adm - I agree with that, I showed the manual to our resident CNC Routing guy, who thought it was a "cool project" that he could get in to, even though he has no particular interest in building a sim...... SeanG From frank at rezultat.dk Tue Feb 24 02:37:32 2009 From: frank at rezultat.dk (Frank Riedel) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 11:37:32 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] diy cockpit project manual.... In-Reply-To: <0KFK004Z34ON5N10@smtp3.clear.net.nz> References: <0KFJ001GRBIAEXO4@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net><3a0a6c680902231444p4b056ac4j7ea9b62359dd347@mail.gmail.com> <0KFK004Z34ON5N10@smtp3.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: Okay - precision joystick cont. - What HALL-sensor to use with it - then ?? Frank -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] P? vegne af Sean Galbraith Sendt: 24. februar 2009 07:29 Til: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List Emne: Re: [simpits-tech] diy cockpit project manual.... >If you want something that will appear as a joystick, try Leo Bodnar's >BU0836 Precision Joystick Controller. It'll give you 8 axes and 32 >buttons. > >http://www.leobodnar.com/products/BU0836/ What Gene said... these things are great, and I am about to order a bunch more for random projects :) SeanG _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil Tue Feb 24 04:07:14 2009 From: bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil (Brian Sikkema) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 07:07:14 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] diy cockpit project manual.... Message-ID: >I agree with that, I showed the manual to our resident CNC Routing >guy, who thought it was a "cool project" that he could get in to, >even though he has no particular interest in building a sim...... Hmmm... my wife likes woodworking... (seriously - not trying to be funny, she does!) Maybe I can play this in an advantageous direction.... lol! Brian From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Feb 24 06:24:24 2009 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 06:24:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] diy cockpit project manual.... In-Reply-To: References: <0KFJ001GRBIAEXO4@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net><3a0a6c680902231444p4b056ac4j7ea9b62359dd347@mail.gmail.com> <0KFK004Z34ON5N10@smtp3.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: On Tue, 24 Feb 2009, Frank Riedel wrote: > Okay - precision joystick cont. - > > What HALL-sensor to use with it - then ?? > Frank, the BU0836 is designed to use pots in a "voltage divider" configuration which means that any 3 wire hall effect device that is designed to be a voltage dividing replacement for a potentiometer will work. I'm not familiar with what is currently available though. I do know that many Cougar users have replaced all the pots in their sticks with hall effect devices. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Feb 24 06:25:20 2009 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 06:25:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] diy cockpit project manual.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 24 Feb 2009, Brian Sikkema wrote: >> I agree with that, I showed the manual to our > resident CNC Routing >> guy, who thought it was a "cool project" that he > could get in to, >> even though he has no particular interest in > building a sim...... > > Hmmm... my wife likes woodworking... (seriously - not > trying to be funny, she does!) Maybe I can play this > in an advantageous direction.... lol! > There ya go! Tell her it's a big toy box. "See all the toys I packed it with?" :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From frank at rezultat.dk Tue Feb 24 07:24:09 2009 From: frank at rezultat.dk (Frank Riedel) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 16:24:09 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] diy cockpit project manual.... In-Reply-To: References: <0KFJ001GRBIAEXO4@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net><3a0a6c680902231444p4b056ac4j7ea9b62359dd347@mail.gmail.com><0KFK004Z34ON5N10@smtp3.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: <07171D858B3E45D9ADF53D2FF499472E@frankzepto> Right - but do any of you guys know what HS they use ?? Frank -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] P? vegne af Gene Buckle Sendt: 24. februar 2009 15:24 Til: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List Emne: Re: [simpits-tech] diy cockpit project manual.... On Tue, 24 Feb 2009, Frank Riedel wrote: > Okay - precision joystick cont. - > > What HALL-sensor to use with it - then ?? > Frank, the BU0836 is designed to use pots in a "voltage divider" configuration which means that any 3 wire hall effect device that is designed to be a voltage dividing replacement for a potentiometer will work. I'm not familiar with what is currently available though. I do know that many Cougar users have replaced all the pots in their sticks with hall effect devices. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Tue Feb 24 08:46:00 2009 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 16:46:00 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] diy cockpit project manual.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 20 Feb 2009, Gene Buckle wrote: Woot'n'stuff ! Nice work gene - that's a real credit to you. I could feel my fingers twitching and thoughts of dusting off the table saw keep coming to mind... but hell - I've got enough to do! Now... digital angle gauge eh? Not got one of those.... yet. > One of the things I've decided about this project is to release the > instruction manual for free. That lets people really understand what > they're getting into before they spend the money on plan set. > > This evening I finished the instructions for the end caps. This is the > last component you'll build if you're not going to be adding the > windscreen and canopy. Tomorrow I'll get more done, but for now this is > where it's at: > > http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/instruction_manual.pdf > > The manual is not completed yet. I'll be making a few revisions to the > text as it is now as well as adding things like a table of contents and > front pictures. The manual is far from done - I still need to show the > final assembly as well as the details on assembling the canopy & > windscreen. > > Enjoy! > > g. > > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Feb 24 07:57:28 2009 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 07:57:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] diy cockpit project manual.... In-Reply-To: <07171D858B3E45D9ADF53D2FF499472E@frankzepto> References: <0KFJ001GRBIAEXO4@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net><3a0a6c680902231444p4b056ac4j7ea9b62359dd347@mail.gmail.com><0KFK004Z34ON5N10@smtp3.clear.net.nz> <07171D858B3E45D9ADF53D2FF499472E@frankzepto> Message-ID: On Tue, 24 Feb 2009, Frank Riedel wrote: > Right - but do any of you guys know what HS they use ?? > I don't, but I bet Jay does. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Feb 24 08:02:18 2009 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 08:02:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] diy cockpit project manual.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 24 Feb 2009, Roy Coates wrote: > On Fri, 20 Feb 2009, Gene Buckle wrote: > > > Woot'n'stuff ! > > Nice work gene - that's a real credit to you. I could feel my fingers > twitching and thoughts of dusting off the table saw keep coming to mind... > Thanks! > but hell - I've got enough to do! > Nah. You need more! You'll need to find a table saw not made by Fisher-Price's Health & Safety dividion though. *huge grin* > > Now... digital angle gauge eh? Not got one of those.... yet. > That little gadget is the most f'ing awesome tool I've bought since the 'bot. It let's me accurately set the 23.5 degree angle that the windscreen and canopy parts need to be cut at. You should grab the updated copy of the manual - it has the finished "standard" version in it. I'm hoping to get some work done on the windscreen this week. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Tue Feb 24 09:15:24 2009 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 17:15:24 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] diy cockpit project manual.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 24 Feb 2009, Gene Buckle wrote: > > but hell - I've got enough to do! > > > Nah. You need more! You'll need to find a table saw not made by > Fisher-Price's Health & Safety dividion though. *huge grin* Hey, mine's a Delta. Sadly it's not the cast iton one though :-( One day. I lose my workshop now for a few months while the builders extend my house, but then I suspect the EC135 sim will start to take shape. I've been accumulating parts for this for quite some time now and I've already got a buyer for it so hey, it'd be a crime not to build it! Plus - it's a good excuse to take up the offer of a ride in the real thing I've been offered :-) -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Feb 24 09:02:22 2009 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 09:02:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] diy cockpit project manual.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 24 Feb 2009, Roy Coates wrote: > > I lose my workshop now for a few months while the builders extend my > house, but then I suspect the EC135 sim will start to take shape. I've > been accumulating parts for this for quite some time now and I've already > got a buyer for it so hey, it'd be a crime not to build it! > Adding a room for the crib midget? > Plus - it's a good excuse to take up the offer of a ride in the real thing > I've been offered :-) If you need an excuse, you're doing it wrong. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Tue Feb 24 10:13:28 2009 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 18:13:28 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] diy cockpit project manual.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 24 Feb 2009, Gene Buckle wrote: > > > Adding a room for the crib midget? > *sigh* > > Plus - it's a good excuse to take up the offer of a ride in the real thing > > I've been offered :-) > > If you need an excuse, you're doing it wrong. :) A valid point ! -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sean.g at paradise.net.nz Tue Feb 24 22:50:44 2009 From: sean.g at paradise.net.nz (Sean Galbraith) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:50:44 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] diy cockpit project manual.... In-Reply-To: <07171D858B3E45D9ADF53D2FF499472E@frankzepto> References: <0KFJ001GRBIAEXO4@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> <3a0a6c680902231444p4b056ac4j7ea9b62359dd347@mail.gmail.com> <0KFK004Z34ON5N10@smtp3.clear.net.nz> <07171D858B3E45D9ADF53D2FF499472E@frankzepto> Message-ID: <0KFM00DCW0CPQC00@smtp4.clear.net.nz> At 04:24 a.m. 25/02/2009, you wrote: >Right - but do any of you guys know what HS they use ?? > >Frank I don't but I'd be keen to find out, for one of the afforementioned random projects (ok, it's a car sim/trainer...) SeanG >-----Oprindelig meddelelse----- >Fra: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org >[mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] P? vegne af Gene Buckle >Sendt: 24. februar 2009 15:24 >Til: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List >Emne: Re: [simpits-tech] diy cockpit project manual.... > >On Tue, 24 Feb 2009, Frank Riedel wrote: > > > Okay - precision joystick cont. - > > > > What HALL-sensor to use with it - then ?? > > > >Frank, the BU0836 is designed to use pots in a "voltage divider" >configuration which means that any 3 wire hall effect device that is >designed to be a voltage dividing replacement for a potentiometer will >work. I'm not familiar with what is currently available though. > >I do know that many Cougar users have replaced all the pots in their >sticks with hall effect devices. > >g. > > > >-- >Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 >http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > >_______________________________________________ >Simpits-tech mailing list >Simpits-tech at simpits.org >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. >Thanks! > >_______________________________________________ >Simpits-tech mailing list >Simpits-tech at simpits.org >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at >the bottom of the above page. Thanks!