From geneb at deltasoft.com  Sun Dec  6 12:28:38 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 12:28:38 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Project updates.
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912061140170.2679@grumble.deltasoft.com>


First up, I've finished the trim & flap wheels for my DIY Simulator 
project.

Images here: http://www.simpits.org/geneb

Second, I've take a whole set of pictures of the F-15 cockpit with every 
part I've got installed.  It looks pretty sharp. :)

http://www.f15sim.com has the pics.

Thanks for looking!

g.


-- 
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!

From paul.2.needham at btconnect.com  Wed Dec  9 04:07:00 2009
From: paul.2.needham at btconnect.com (Paul Needham)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 12:07:00 -0000
Subject: [simpits-tech] stuff for free UK
Message-ID: <3A0BB2C064E94086A8AC5DDEE65812F1@Wendoline>

Hi all

having a clear out before a house move and have the following items for free
!

2 x Aura Interactors 		just large bass drivers thingies all the
rage once 
1 x Jet Provost rudder pedals     sliding rails cut down so they will not no
fit properly into the original aircraft - disassembled but only major part
missing is one toe brake cylinder
1 x Artificial horizon		if I can find it.

I live in Nottinghamshire , collection only as very heavy.

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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Wed Dec  9 07:02:38 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 07:02:38 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] New 'pit site..
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912090659550.21695@grumble.deltasoft.com>


Check it out: http://pitbuildermag.com

g.


-- 
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!

From geneb at deltasoft.com  Wed Dec  9 07:14:39 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 07:14:39 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] glass software...
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912090713240.21695@grumble.deltasoft.com>

I'm looking for a software package that will work with MSFS that operates 
like a Garmin G1000 PFD.

It needs to be a standalone application and shouldn't have any "on screen" 
controls.

Suggestions?  Tnx!

g.


-- 
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!

From catalina299 at gmail.com  Wed Dec  9 11:52:36 2009
From: catalina299 at gmail.com (William Segal)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 11:52:36 -0800
Subject: [simpits-tech] glass software...
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912090713240.21695@grumble.deltasoft.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912090713240.21695@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <3a0a6c680912091152l7fd3d67atf3be73a3c15f076c@mail.gmail.com>

Gene

What are you prepared spend ?

Bill

On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 7:14 AM, Gene Buckle <geneb at deltasoft.com> wrote:
> I'm looking for a software package that will work with MSFS that operates
> like a Garmin G1000 PFD.
>
> It needs to be a standalone application and shouldn't have any "on screen"
> controls.
>
> Suggestions? ?Tnx!
>
> g.
>
>
> --
> Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
> http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
>
> ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
> A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
> http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!
> _______________________________________________
> Simpits-tech mailing list
> Simpits-tech at simpits.org
> http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech
> To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. ?Thanks!
>

From geneb at deltasoft.com  Wed Dec  9 12:21:59 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 12:21:59 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] glass software...
In-Reply-To: <3a0a6c680912091152l7fd3d67atf3be73a3c15f076c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912090713240.21695@grumble.deltasoft.com>
	<3a0a6c680912091152l7fd3d67atf3be73a3c15f076c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912091221030.23290@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Wed, 9 Dec 2009, William Segal wrote:

> Gene
>
> What are you prepared spend ?
>
Considering that I'm going to use it for playing around, not very much. :) 
I won't pay PCATD prices for my hobby uses. :)

g.

-- 
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!

From catalina299 at gmail.com  Wed Dec  9 13:19:57 2009
From: catalina299 at gmail.com (William Segal)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:19:57 -0800
Subject: [simpits-tech] glass software...
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912091221030.23290@grumble.deltasoft.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912090713240.21695@grumble.deltasoft.com> 
	<3a0a6c680912091152l7fd3d67atf3be73a3c15f076c@mail.gmail.com> 
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0912091221030.23290@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <3a0a6c680912091319q541aa871k4d8781e7b55d2ff@mail.gmail.com>

Gene

VR aircraft has a hardware version one unit only for $1800
it looks damm good

Regards

Bill

reg

On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Gene Buckle <geneb at deltasoft.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Dec 2009, William Segal wrote:
>
>> Gene
>>
>> What are you prepared spend ?
>>
> Considering that I'm going to use it for playing around, not very much. :)
> I won't pay PCATD prices for my hobby uses. :)
>
> g.
>
> --
> Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
> http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
>
> ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
> A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
> http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!
> _______________________________________________
> Simpits-tech mailing list
> Simpits-tech at simpits.org
> http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech
> To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. ?Thanks!
>

From catalina299 at gmail.com  Thu Dec 10 16:13:03 2009
From: catalina299 at gmail.com (William Segal)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:13:03 -0800
Subject: [simpits-tech] glass software...
In-Reply-To: <3a0a6c680912091319q541aa871k4d8781e7b55d2ff@mail.gmail.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912090713240.21695@grumble.deltasoft.com> 
	<3a0a6c680912091152l7fd3d67atf3be73a3c15f076c@mail.gmail.com> 
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0912091221030.23290@grumble.deltasoft.com> 
	<3a0a6c680912091319q541aa871k4d8781e7b55d2ff@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3a0a6c680912101613v163b405fy1f19b74eb68b7720@mail.gmail.com>

Gene

You playing around is like the rest of us building a fully operational Shuttle

Cockpit and Panel! I thought he was going to release that but if I wait too much

longer I may not be here long enough to get it

Regards

Bill



On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 1:19 PM, William Segal <catalina299 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Gene
>
> VR aircraft has a hardware version one unit only for $1800
> it looks damm good
>
> Regards
>
> Bill
>
> reg
>
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Gene Buckle <geneb at deltasoft.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 9 Dec 2009, William Segal wrote:
>>
>>> Gene
>>>
>>> What are you prepared spend ?
>>>
>> Considering that I'm going to use it for playing around, not very much. :)
>> I won't pay PCATD prices for my hobby uses. :)
>>
>> g.
>>
>> --
>> Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
>> http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
>>
>> ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
>> A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
>> http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!
>> _______________________________________________
>> Simpits-tech mailing list
>> Simpits-tech at simpits.org
>> http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech
>> To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. ?Thanks!
>>
>

From geneb at deltasoft.com  Fri Dec 11 07:20:52 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:20:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Hey Bill!
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912110720130.2955@grumble.deltasoft.com>

You'd sent me a link to a company a couple of months ago that made a panel 
frame (no LCD) for the G1000 as used in MSFS. Can you send me that link 
again?

tnx!

g.


-- 
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!

From catalina299 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 13:36:23 2009
From: catalina299 at gmail.com (William Segal)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:36:23 -0800
Subject: [simpits-tech] Hey Bill!
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912110720130.2955@grumble.deltasoft.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912110720130.2955@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <3a0a6c680912111336w27076848kada07124dc58f4d6@mail.gmail.com>

www.flythissim.com

take a lot of doe (---:

On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 7:20 AM, Gene Buckle <geneb at deltasoft.com> wrote:
> You'd sent me a link to a company a couple of months ago that made a panel
> frame (no LCD) for the G1000 as used in MSFS. Can you send me that link
> again?
>
> tnx!
>
> g.
>
>
> --
> Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
> http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
>
> ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
> A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
> http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!
> _______________________________________________
> Simpits-tech mailing list
> Simpits-tech at simpits.org
> http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech
> To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. ?Thanks!
>

From geneb at deltasoft.com  Fri Dec 11 16:18:06 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:18:06 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Hey Bill!
In-Reply-To: <3a0a6c680912111336w27076848kada07124dc58f4d6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912110720130.2955@grumble.deltasoft.com>
	<3a0a6c680912111336w27076848kada07124dc58f4d6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912111617400.5414@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, William Segal wrote:

> www.flythissim.com
>

Thanks Bill.  Roy - these are the guys I was talking about - I can't find 
the button frame by itself though.

g.

-- 
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!

From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Fri Dec 11 16:19:01 2009
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 00:19:01 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Hey Bill!
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912111617400.5414@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0912120017500.754-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:

> On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, William Segal wrote:
>
> > www.flythissim.com
> >
>
> Thanks Bill.  Roy - these are the guys I was talking about - I can't find
> the button frame by itself though.


I think you'd need to hit Ebay and sell both kidneys, an eye, two
livers and four testicles in order to buy one though gene.


--

Roy Coates.
Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter.
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From catalina299 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 16:40:40 2009
From: catalina299 at gmail.com (William Segal)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:40:40 -0800
Subject: [simpits-tech] stuff
Message-ID: <3a0a6c680912111640t3a6888ddm4766189ee04506f0@mail.gmail.com>

I am on the GSA auction list why who the heck knows>?

right now they have an actual B-17 Tow Bar (may need

repairs) if your interested in aircraft parts drop me a line

what state you are in and I will let you know what is avialable

in your state,

Regards

Bill

From jjmessenger at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 16 08:17:45 2009
From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 08:17:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] New EPIC Gauge/Meter Module
Message-ID: <130274.53179.qm@web111509.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Has anyone here played with this yet?
?
http://www.flightlink.com/epic/gauge.html


Justin Messenger


Cell (501) 620-6004
Flight Simulators and Aircraft Instruments
www.nu-tekinc.com

www.PhantomSim.org


      
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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Wed Dec 16 13:13:38 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 13:13:38 -0800
Subject: [simpits-tech] New EPIC Gauge/Meter Module
In-Reply-To: <130274.53179.qm@web111509.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <130274.53179.qm@web111509.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4B294D82.1060108@deltasoft.com>

On 12/16/2009 8:17 AM, Justin Messenger wrote:
> Has anyone here played with this yet?
> http://www.flightlink.com/epic/gauge.html

I've got one of the older ones.  I'm awaiting my repaired EPIC back from 
Ralph right now - a flash update didn't take.  Turns out the FPGA code 
was too old.

g.



From phoenixcomm at gmail.com  Mon Dec 21 06:22:08 2009
From: phoenixcomm at gmail.com (Cris)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 08:22:08 -0600
Subject: [simpits-tech] New EPIC Gauge/Meter Module
In-Reply-To: <130274.53179.qm@web111509.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <130274.53179.qm@web111509.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001801ca8248$fb9f55a0$f2de00e0$@com>

It appears that your www.phantomsim.org link is bust or that is their
website might be down..

 

Cris Harrison

 

 

From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org
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Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 10:18 AM
To: Simpits Tech
Subject: [simpits-tech] New EPIC Gauge/Meter Module

 


Has anyone here played with this yet?

 

http://www.flightlink.com/epic/gauge.html

Justin Messenger

Cell (501) 620-6004

Flight Simulators and Aircraft Instruments

www. <http://www.nu-tekinc.com/> nu-tekinc.com

 <http://www.phantomsim.org/> www.PhantomSim.org

 

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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Tue Dec 22 21:47:40 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 21:47:40 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Updates posted!
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912222147060.9602@grumble.deltasoft.com>

http://www.simpits.org/geneb

http://www.f15sim.com  (UHMW makes a MESS!)

g.


-- 
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!

From frank at rezultat.dk  Wed Dec 23 03:24:45 2009
From: frank at rezultat.dk (Frank Riedel)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 12:24:45 +0100
Subject: [simpits-tech] Updates posted!
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912222147060.9602@grumble.deltasoft.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912222147060.9602@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <0B9F8105-1BF9-460B-A763-965BC4BFDC35@rezultat.dk>

Anybofu know how to get 180dg FOV wit correct perspective with TH2G  
fullscreen in FSX

Frank
Merry Christmas

 >> sent from my iPhone <<

Den 23/12/2009 kl. 06.47 skrev Gene Buckle <geneb at deltasoft.com>:

> http://www.simpits.org/geneb
>
> http://www.f15sim.com  (UHMW makes a MESS!)
>
> g.
>
>
> -- 
> Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
> http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
>
> ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
> A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
> http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!
> _______________________________________________
> Simpits-tech mailing list
> Simpits-tech at simpits.org
> http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech
> To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the  
> above page.  Thanks!

From catalina299 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 23 08:52:07 2009
From: catalina299 at gmail.com (William Segal)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 08:52:07 -0800
Subject: [simpits-tech] Updates posted!
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912222147060.9602@grumble.deltasoft.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912222147060.9602@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <3a0a6c680912230852g7b78a50we09aae8efe8abb0b@mail.gmail.com>

Gene

What did you ever do about the G1000?

Best

Billy

On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 9:47 PM, Gene Buckle <geneb at deltasoft.com> wrote:
> http://www.simpits.org/geneb
>
> http://www.f15sim.com ?(UHMW makes a MESS!)
>
> g.
>
>
> --
> Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
> http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
>
> ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
> A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
> http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!
> _______________________________________________
> Simpits-tech mailing list
> Simpits-tech at simpits.org
> http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech
> To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. ?Thanks!
>

From geneb at deltasoft.com  Wed Dec 23 09:10:37 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 09:10:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Updates posted!
In-Reply-To: <3a0a6c680912230852g7b78a50we09aae8efe8abb0b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912222147060.9602@grumble.deltasoft.com>
	<3a0a6c680912230852g7b78a50we09aae8efe8abb0b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912230910260.17686@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Wed, 23 Dec 2009, William Segal wrote:

> Gene
>
> What did you ever do about the G1000?
>
You'll see. *huge grin*

g.

-- 
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!

From catalina299 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 23 09:25:31 2009
From: catalina299 at gmail.com (William Segal)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 09:25:31 -0800
Subject: [simpits-tech] Updates posted!
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912230910260.17686@grumble.deltasoft.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912222147060.9602@grumble.deltasoft.com> 
	<3a0a6c680912230852g7b78a50we09aae8efe8abb0b@mail.gmail.com> 
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0912230910260.17686@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <3a0a6c680912230925x2cc506b4p4c8486b3cfa1981f@mail.gmail.com>

I want a private viewing !

Bill

On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Gene Buckle <geneb at deltasoft.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Dec 2009, William Segal wrote:
>
>> Gene
>>
>> What did you ever do about the G1000?
>>
> You'll see. *huge grin*
>
> g.
>
> --
> Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
> http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
>
> ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
> A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
> http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!
> _______________________________________________
> Simpits-tech mailing list
> Simpits-tech at simpits.org
> http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech
> To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. ?Thanks!
>

From jjmessenger at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 23 10:32:45 2009
From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 10:32:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] New EPIC Gauge/Meter Module
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1626.1261567476.2455.simpits-tech@simpits.org>
Message-ID: <370383.25440.qm@web111516.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Chris,
Geocities was closed by Yahoo who only gave me a 2 week window to transfer the site. I didnt see the email and they deleted over 10 years of files, which I didnt have backed up. So my website is history. 
?
Re: [simpits-tech] New EPIC Gauge/Meter Module
Monday, December 21, 2009 8:22 AM



From: 

"Cris" <phoenixcomm at gmail.com>



To: 
"'Simulator Cockpit Builder's List'" <simpits-tech at simpits.org>








It appears that your www.phantomsim.org link is bust or that is their website might be down?.
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From jjmessenger at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 23 10:42:10 2009
From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 10:42:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Our latest project
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1626.1261567476.2455.simpits-tech@simpits.org>
Message-ID: <373390.77802.qm@web111506.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

We converted a 727 cockpit into a partially functional sim for the movie Knight and Day. They had us convert it to partial glass?cockpit to make it look more modern. Here is the official preview,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v,X_JiFtSLs
?
I wish I was allowed to show photos, they put about 90 feet of a 727 inside a round motion base track that could roll the plane competely upside down. It? was a big project, the welders also built the titanic sets. 


Justin Messenger


Flight Simulators and Aircraft Instruments
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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Wed Dec 23 10:45:31 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 10:45:31 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] New EPIC Gauge/Meter Module
In-Reply-To: <370383.25440.qm@web111516.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <370383.25440.qm@web111516.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912231042040.19210@grumble.deltasoft.com>

> Chris, Geocities was closed by Yahoo who only gave me a 2 week window to 
> transfer the site. I didnt see the email and they deleted over 10 years 
> of files, which I didnt have backed up. So my website is history.


Justin, Archive Team Saves Your Shit. :)

http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Geocities

Check to see under the original Geocities (www.geociti.es) address if 
your site was saved.  You can also look for it in the url lists they have.

g.

-- 
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!

From geneb at deltasoft.com  Wed Dec 23 10:48:56 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 10:48:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Our latest project
In-Reply-To: <373390.77802.qm@web111506.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <373390.77802.qm@web111506.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912231048320.19210@grumble.deltasoft.com>

> We converted a 727 cockpit into a partially functional sim for the movie Knight and Day. They had us convert it to partial glass?cockpit to make it look more modern. Here is the official preview,
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v,X_JiFtSLs
> ?
It looks fun.  Too bad Capt. Nutjob is in it.


g.



-- 
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!

From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Wed Dec 23 12:26:22 2009
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:26:22 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Our latest project
In-Reply-To: <373390.77802.qm@web111506.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0912232025370.29465-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Wed, 23 Dec 2009, Justin Messenger wrote:

> We converted a 727 cockpit into a partially functional sim for the movie
> Knight and Day. They had us convert it to partial glass?cockpit to make
> it look more modern. Here is the official preview,
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cX_JiFtSLs ? I wish I was allowed to
> show photos, they put about 90 feet of a 727 inside a round motion base
> track that could roll the plane competely upside down. It? was a big
> project, the welders also built the titanic sets.


Nice one Justin !!

I wouldn't mind turning Cameron Diaz upside down a few times - nice work
if you can get it :-)





--

Roy Coates.
Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From rd at ns.sympatico.ca  Wed Dec 23 12:35:40 2009
From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 16:35:40 -0400
Subject: [simpits-tech] Our latest project
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0912232025370.29465-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <00d501ca840f$7e07b290$0b02a8c0@your384jh9sv0b>

Good one Roy! LOL

Merry Christmas everyone.

Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roy Coates" <roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk>
To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Our latest project


On Wed, 23 Dec 2009, Justin Messenger wrote:

> We converted a 727 cockpit into a partially functional sim for the movie
> Knight and Day. They had us convert it to partial glass cockpit to make
> it look more modern. Here is the official preview,
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cX_JiFtSLs I wish I was allowed to
> show photos, they put about 90 feet of a 727 inside a round motion base
> track that could roll the plane competely upside down. It was a big
> project, the welders also built the titanic sets.


Nice one Justin !!

I wouldn't mind turning Cameron Diaz upside down a few times - nice work
if you can get it :-)





--

Roy Coates.
Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
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meter.
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From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Wed Dec 23 15:15:41 2009
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 23:15:41 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Our latest project
In-Reply-To: <00d501ca840f$7e07b290$0b02a8c0@your384jh9sv0b>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0912232314120.30797-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Wed, 23 Dec 2009, Rick Davis wrote:

> Good one Roy! LOL
>
> Merry Christmas everyone.
>

Thanks Rick - sadly it's a bit late to add it to my list for Santa, maybe
next year eh?  ;-)


Seasons greetings to all you wonderful X-Planer's that continue to
brighten my days on a very regular basis. You're all appreciated very
much indeed.  :-)

All the very best,

Roy.

--

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Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
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From crease-guard at sbcglobal.net  Wed Dec 23 22:08:17 2009
From: crease-guard at sbcglobal.net (Joseph Fagner)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 00:08:17 -0600
Subject: [simpits-tech] Our latest project
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912231048320.19210@grumble.deltasoft.com>
References: <373390.77802.qm@web111506.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0912231048320.19210@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <5E542477C15F4C22942B8A2AC074E63A@flightsystems>

Gene, you such a way with just a few words.  I was looking for something to
add but you have summed it up in one..no two simple sentences.  I hope I
will stop laughing soon.

Jay

Show me a man who cannot be bothered to do the little things, and I will
show you a man who cannot be trusted to do the big ones.
--Lawrence Bell, Founder Bell Helicopter

-----Original Message-----
From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org
[mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Gene Buckle
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 12:49 PM
To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Our latest project

> We converted a 727 cockpit into a partially functional sim for the movie
Knight and Day. They had us convert it to partial glass?cockpit to make it
look more modern. Here is the official preview,
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cX_JiFtSLs
> ?
It looks fun.  Too bad Capt. Nutjob is in it.


g.



-- 
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!


From mcollins at null.net  Thu Dec 24 07:24:23 2009
From: mcollins at null.net (Mark Collins)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 09:24:23 -0600
Subject: [simpits-tech] Our latest project
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912231048320.19210@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <NDBBLEJPMLDGNEOBODGFKEFFEOAA.mcollins@null.net>

Capt. Nutjob's single best role...

Les Grossman:  Tropic Thunder.  He should have won an academy award for the
performance!

For those who haven't seen the dances...here they are.

http://vimeo.com/3007387

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/944411/


-----Original Message-----
From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org
[mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org]On Behalf Of Gene Buckle
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 12:49 PM
To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Our latest project


> We converted a 727 cockpit into a partially functional sim for the movie
Knight and Day. They had us convert it to partial glass?cockpit to make it
look more modern. Here is the official preview,
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cX_JiFtSLs
> ?
It looks fun.  Too bad Capt. Nutjob is in it.


g.



--
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!


From crease-guard at sbcglobal.net  Thu Dec 24 07:32:45 2009
From: crease-guard at sbcglobal.net (Joseph Fagner)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 09:32:45 -0600
Subject: [simpits-tech] Our latest project
In-Reply-To: <NDBBLEJPMLDGNEOBODGFKEFFEOAA.mcollins@null.net>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912231048320.19210@grumble.deltasoft.com>
	<NDBBLEJPMLDGNEOBODGFKEFFEOAA.mcollins@null.net>
Message-ID: <7ED05F0E5E0A43CC802BBAC06EEA35B3@flightsystems>

I agree, hilarious.

Sorry for the off topic detour.

Jay

Show me a man who cannot be bothered to do the little things, and I will
show you a man who cannot be trusted to do the big ones.
--Lawrence Bell, Founder Bell Helicopter

-----Original Message-----
From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org
[mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Mark Collins
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 9:24 AM
To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Our latest project

Capt. Nutjob's single best role...

Les Grossman:  Tropic Thunder.  He should have won an academy award for the
performance!

For those who haven't seen the dances...here they are.

http://vimeo.com/3007387

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/944411/


-----Original Message-----
From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org
[mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org]On Behalf Of Gene Buckle
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 12:49 PM
To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Our latest project


> We converted a 727 cockpit into a partially functional sim for the movie
Knight and Day. They had us convert it to partial glass?cockpit to make it
look more modern. Here is the official preview,
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cX_JiFtSLs
> ?
It looks fun.  Too bad Capt. Nutjob is in it.


g.



--
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

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http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!

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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Thu Dec 24 08:11:15 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 08:11:15 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Our latest project
In-Reply-To: <5E542477C15F4C22942B8A2AC074E63A@flightsystems>
References: <373390.77802.qm@web111506.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0912231048320.19210@grumble.deltasoft.com>
	<5E542477C15F4C22942B8A2AC074E63A@flightsystems>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912240811000.602@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Thu, 24 Dec 2009, Joseph Fagner wrote:

> Gene, you such a way with just a few words.  I was looking for something to
> add but you have summed it up in one..no two simple sentences.  I hope I
> will stop laughing soon.
>

*looks up, whistles innocently*

:D

g.

-- 
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!

From geneb at deltasoft.com  Thu Dec 24 08:21:33 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 08:21:33 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Our latest project
In-Reply-To: <NDBBLEJPMLDGNEOBODGFKEFFEOAA.mcollins@null.net>
References: <NDBBLEJPMLDGNEOBODGFKEFFEOAA.mcollins@null.net>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912240821130.602@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Thu, 24 Dec 2009, Mark Collins wrote:

> Capt. Nutjob's single best role...
>
> Les Grossman:  Tropic Thunder.  He should have won an academy award for the
> performance!
>
Yep. :)

g.

-- 
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!

From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Thu Dec 24 14:54:52 2009
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 22:54:52 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Our latest project
In-Reply-To: <NDBBLEJPMLDGNEOBODGFKEFFEOAA.mcollins@null.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0912242253410.2114-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Thu, 24 Dec 2009, Mark Collins wrote:

> Capt. Nutjob's single best role...
>
> For those who haven't seen the dances...here they are.


I'd rather play tonsil hockey with Gordon Brown than watch Tom Cruise
dance.  Please... have some respect for my delicate stomach.


--

Roy Coates.
Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From geneb at deltasoft.com  Fri Dec 25 09:23:58 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 09:23:58 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Our latest project
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0912242253410.2114-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0912242253410.2114-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912250923080.16529@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Thu, 24 Dec 2009, Roy Coates wrote:

> On Thu, 24 Dec 2009, Mark Collins wrote:
>
>> Capt. Nutjob's single best role...
>>
>> For those who haven't seen the dances...here they are.
>
>
> I'd rather play tonsil hockey with Gordon Brown than watch Tom Cruise
> dance.  Please... have some respect for my delicate stomach.
>
5 seconds earlier and I would've been required to send you a bill for 
cleaning Diet Coke out of the control electronics of my LCD monitor. :)

g.

-- 
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!

From phoenixcomm at gmail.com  Fri Dec 25 22:21:51 2009
From: phoenixcomm at gmail.com (Cris)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 00:21:51 -0600
Subject: [simpits-tech] New EPIC Gauge/Meter Module
In-Reply-To: <370383.25440.qm@web111516.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <mailman.1626.1261567476.2455.simpits-tech@simpits.org>
	<370383.25440.qm@web111516.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <00f101ca85f3$b7cea200$276be600$@com>

First which website, and what mail

If you mean simpts email. This I have in my gmail back to 6/18/06 its about 746 emails 

I can most likely forward them to you.. J

 My plight has gone bad ? to ? on the street. And no permeate roof, lots of fun?.

My Server about 4months ago I put the dam thing on a virtual box on the net 

I made a large 18lb yard bird for dinner 

Enjoy the new year and what ever 

Cris 

Phoenixcomm.net

214-717-4286 office and 24/7 to the cell

enjoy   

 

From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Justin Messenger
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 12:33 PM
To: simpits-tech at simpits.org
Subject: [simpits-tech] New EPIC Gauge/Meter Module

 


Chris,

Geocities was closed by Yahoo who only gave me a 2 week window to transfer the site. I didnt see the email and they deleted over 10 years of files, which I didnt have backed up. So my website is history. 

 


Re: [simpits-tech] New EPIC Gauge/Meter Module


Monday, December 21, 2009 8:22 AM

From: 

"Cris" <phoenixcomm at gmail.com>

To: 

"'Simulator Cockpit Builder's List'" <simpits-tech at simpits.org>

It appears that your  <http://www.phantomsim.org> www.phantomsim.org link is bust or that is their website might be down?.

 

Cris Harrison



 

Justin Messenger

Cell (501) 620-6004

Flight Simulators and Aircraft Instruments

 <http://www.nu-tekinc.com/> www.nu-tekinc.com

 

 

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From frank at rezultat.dk  Sat Dec 26 02:42:50 2009
From: frank at rezultat.dk (Frank Riedel)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 11:42:50 +0100
Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912222147060.9602@grumble.deltasoft.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912222147060.9602@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <3511D24E-A3A8-4007-9833-5260F13ADA06@rezultat.dk>

No help ?n FSX correct perspective ?n TH2G fullscreen view ?

/Frank

From geneb at deltasoft.com  Sat Dec 26 09:42:27 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 09:42:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX
In-Reply-To: <3511D24E-A3A8-4007-9833-5260F13ADA06@rezultat.dk>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912222147060.9602@grumble.deltasoft.com>
	<3511D24E-A3A8-4007-9833-5260F13ADA06@rezultat.dk>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912260942040.31006@grumble.deltasoft.com>

> No help ?n FSX correct perspective ?n TH2G fullscreen view ?
>

Frank are you using projectors or just three LCD screens?

g.

-- 
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!

From frank at rezultat.dk  Sat Dec 26 09:46:15 2009
From: frank at rezultat.dk (Frank Riedel)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 18:46:15 +0100
Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912260942040.31006@grumble.deltasoft.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912222147060.9602@grumble.deltasoft.com>
	<3511D24E-A3A8-4007-9833-5260F13ADA06@rezultat.dk>
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Projector Sir

 >> sent from my iPhone <<

Den 26/12/2009 kl. 18.42 skrev Gene Buckle <geneb at deltasoft.com>:

>> No help ?n FSX correct perspective ?n TH2G fullscreen view ?
>>
>
> Frank are you using projectors or just three LCD screens?
>
> g.
>
> --  
> Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
> http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
>
> ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
> A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
> http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!
> _______________________________________________
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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Sat Dec 26 14:50:06 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 14:50:06 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX
In-Reply-To: <FE40DCAA-AFFE-4DF4-90A0-CFEE8D9BCE90@rezultat.dk>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912222147060.9602@grumble.deltasoft.com>
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	<FE40DCAA-AFFE-4DF4-90A0-CFEE8D9BCE90@rezultat.dk>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912261449210.1877@grumble.deltasoft.com>

> Projector Sir
>
There is an application called "Sol7" that solves this issue.  The bad 
news is that the "personal" edition is $430 AUD.

g.

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From rd at ns.sympatico.ca  Sat Dec 26 15:11:11 2009
From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 19:11:11 -0400
Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912222147060.9602@grumble.deltasoft.com><3511D24E-A3A8-4007-9833-5260F13ADA06@rezultat.dk><alpine.LFD.1.10.0912260942040.31006@grumble.deltasoft.com><FE40DCAA-AFFE-4DF4-90A0-CFEE8D9BCE90@rezultat.dk>
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gene Buckle" <geneb at deltasoft.com>
To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 6:50 PM
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] FSX


>> Projector Sir
>>
> There is an application called "Sol7" that solves this issue.  The bad
> news is that the "personal" edition is $430 AUD.
>
> g.

Does that stand for "Shit Outta Luck 7" Gene?

:)

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From frank at rezultat.dk  Sat Dec 26 15:52:19 2009
From: frank at rezultat.dk (Frank Riedel)
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 00:52:19 +0100
Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912261449210.1877@grumble.deltasoft.com>
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Hmmm, no Way - Else 3 window setup?

 >> sent from my iPhone <<

Den 26/12/2009 kl. 23.50 skrev Gene Buckle <geneb at deltasoft.com>:

>> Projector Sir
>>
> There is an application called "Sol7" that solves this issue.  The bad
> news is that the "personal" edition is $430 AUD.
>
> g.
>
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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Sun Dec 27 11:38:16 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 11:38:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX
In-Reply-To: <003201ca8680$b7524b00$0b02a8c0@your384jh9sv0b>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912222147060.9602@grumble.deltasoft.com><3511D24E-A3A8-4007-9833-5260F13ADA06@rezultat.dk><alpine.LFD.1.10.0912260942040.31006@grumble.deltasoft.com><FE40DCAA-AFFE-4DF4-90A0-CFEE8D9BCE90@rezultat.dk>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gene Buckle" <geneb at deltasoft.com>
> To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
> Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 6:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] FSX
>
>
>>> Projector Sir
>>>
>> There is an application called "Sol7" that solves this issue.  The bad
>> news is that the "personal" edition is $430 AUD.
>>
>> g.
>
> Does that stand for "Shit Outta Luck 7" Gene?
>
At that price?  Probably.

g.

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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Sun Dec 27 11:38:56 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 11:38:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX
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On Sun, 27 Dec 2009, Frank Riedel wrote:

> Hmmm, no Way - Else 3 window setup?
>
Er.. What?

g.

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From frank at rezultat.dk  Sun Dec 27 11:50:24 2009
From: frank at rezultat.dk (frank at rezultat.dk)
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:50:24 +0100
Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912271138420.9604@grumble.deltasoft.com>
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If i then setup 3 OTW (FSX in Window mode) - leftfront, front, rightfront

is this the only way to get right perspectiv ?



> On Sun, 27 Dec 2009, Frank Riedel wrote:
>
>> Hmmm, no Way - Else 3 window setup?
>>
> Er.. What?
>
> g.
>
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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Sun Dec 27 12:00:55 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 12:00:55 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX
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On Sun, 27 Dec 2009, frank at rezultat.dk wrote:

> If i then setup 3 OTW (FSX in Window mode) - leftfront, front, rightfront
>
> is this the only way to get right perspectiv ?
>
I think if you adjust the "zoom" you'll be on the right track.  Under FSX, 
changing the "zoom level" also increases the field of view, which is 
something you need to do when running a wide TH2G display.

g.



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From Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com  Sun Dec 27 14:10:51 2009
From: Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com (Sean Galbraith)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:10:51 +1300
Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX
Message-ID: <000001ca8741$6e90ed60$0200a8c0@pacsim.local>

>From the expeimenting that I've done FSX doesn't zoom in the same way that FS9 does.  In FS9 you could zoom out to 0.31 which gave you about 120 degrees, then by editting the saved flight you could bring the zoom out to about 0.25 which gave a little more.  FSX doesn't appear to show the same field of view to zoom ratio.
The only way I managed to achieve a true 180 degree view was by undocking and maximizing 3 separate views.  With TH2GO this was very very heavy on processor time, so I ended up switching to a quad-SLI motherboard with 3 9800GT's installed. This worked fine, but ended up being unstable, with regular crashes to desktop.  Now this was all in FS9 running XP Pro, and I would suspect that FSX and Vista might be a better combo....
Hth  

SeanG

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, 28 December 2009 09:02
To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] FSX

On Sun, 27 Dec 2009, frank at rezultat.dk wrote:

> If i then setup 3 OTW (FSX in Window mode) - leftfront, front, rightfront
>
> is this the only way to get right perspectiv ?
>
I think if you adjust the "zoom" you'll be on the right track.  Under FSX, 
changing the "zoom level" also increases the field of view, which is 
something you need to do when running a wide TH2G display.

g.



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From frank at rezultat.dk  Sun Dec 27 14:42:15 2009
From: frank at rezultat.dk (frank at rezultat.dk)
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 23:42:15 +0100
Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX
In-Reply-To: <000001ca8741$6e90ed60$0200a8c0@pacsim.local>
References: <000001ca8741$6e90ed60$0200a8c0@pacsim.local>
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Thx - so what about Win7 ??



>>From the expeimenting that I've done FSX doesn't zoom in the same way
>> that FS9 does.  In FS9 you could zoom out to 0.31 which gave you about
>> 120 degrees, then by editting the saved flight you could bring the zoom
>> out to about 0.25 which gave a little more.  FSX doesn't appear to show
>> the same field of view to zoom ratio.
> The only way I managed to achieve a true 180 degree view was by undocking
> and maximizing 3 separate views.  With TH2GO this was very very heavy on
> processor time, so I ended up switching to a quad-SLI motherboard with 3
> 9800GT's installed. This worked fine, but ended up being unstable, with
> regular crashes to desktop.  Now this was all in FS9 running XP Pro, and I
> would suspect that FSX and Vista might be a better combo....
> Hth
>
> SeanG
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gene Buckle <geneb at deltasoft.com>
> Sent: Monday, 28 December 2009 09:02
> To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] FSX
>
> On Sun, 27 Dec 2009, frank at rezultat.dk wrote:
>
>> If i then setup 3 OTW (FSX in Window mode) - leftfront, front,
>> rightfront
>>
>> is this the only way to get right perspectiv ?
>>
> I think if you adjust the "zoom" you'll be on the right track.  Under FSX,
> changing the "zoom level" also increases the field of view, which is
> something you need to do when running a wide TH2G display.
>
> g.
>
>
>
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From frank at rezultat.dk  Sun Dec 27 14:50:14 2009
From: frank at rezultat.dk (frank at rezultat.dk)
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 23:50:14 +0100
Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX
In-Reply-To: <000001ca8741$6e90ed60$0200a8c0@pacsim.local>
References: <000001ca8741$6e90ed60$0200a8c0@pacsim.local>
Message-ID: <0f8be442c1b63532c06da4b788a52fd9.squirrel@mx02.dlx.dk>

.... or Sol7 with TH2G > Left, Front, Right view - ??


>>From the expeimenting that I've done FSX doesn't zoom in the same way
>> that FS9 does.  In FS9 you could zoom out to 0.31 which gave you about
>> 120 degrees, then by editting the saved flight you could bring the zoom
>> out to about 0.25 which gave a little more.  FSX doesn't appear to show
>> the same field of view to zoom ratio.
> The only way I managed to achieve a true 180 degree view was by undocking
> and maximizing 3 separate views.  With TH2GO this was very very heavy on
> processor time, so I ended up switching to a quad-SLI motherboard with 3
> 9800GT's installed. This worked fine, but ended up being unstable, with
> regular crashes to desktop.  Now this was all in FS9 running XP Pro, and I
> would suspect that FSX and Vista might be a better combo....
> Hth
>
> SeanG
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gene Buckle <geneb at deltasoft.com>
> Sent: Monday, 28 December 2009 09:02
> To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] FSX
>
> On Sun, 27 Dec 2009, frank at rezultat.dk wrote:
>
>> If i then setup 3 OTW (FSX in Window mode) - leftfront, front,
>> rightfront
>>
>> is this the only way to get right perspectiv ?
>>
> I think if you adjust the "zoom" you'll be on the right track.  Under FSX,
> changing the "zoom level" also increases the field of view, which is
> something you need to do when running a wide TH2G display.
>
> g.
>
>
>
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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Sun Dec 27 17:12:32 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:12:32 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX
In-Reply-To: <000001ca8741$6e90ed60$0200a8c0@pacsim.local>
References: <000001ca8741$6e90ed60$0200a8c0@pacsim.local>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912271712000.12306@grumble.deltasoft.com>

>> From the expeimenting that I've done FSX doesn't zoom in the same way 
>> that FS9 does.  In FS9 you could zoom out to 0.31 which gave you about 
>> 120 degrees, then by editting the saved flight you could bring the zoom 
>> out to about 0.25 which gave a little more.  FSX doesn't appear to show 
>> the same field of view to zoom ratio.
> The only way I managed to achieve a true 180 degree view was by 
> undocking and maximizing 3 separate views.  With TH2GO this was very 
> very heavy on processor time, so I ended up switching to a quad-SLI 
> motherboard with 3 9800GT's installed. This worked fine, but ended up 
> being unstable, with regular crashes to desktop.  Now this was all in 
> FS9 running XP Pro, and I would suspect that FSX and Vista might be a 
> better combo.... Hth

Sean, isn't there a config file you can hand edit for setting the FOV 
and/or zoom level?

g.

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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Sun Dec 27 17:14:02 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:14:02 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX
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	<0f8be442c1b63532c06da4b788a52fd9.squirrel@mx02.dlx.dk>
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On Sun, 27 Dec 2009, frank at rezultat.dk wrote:

> .... or Sol7 with TH2G > Left, Front, Right view - ??
>
>
Sol7 was designed for smooth edge blending with projectors and a TH2G.  It 
can also warp the output for use on dome & concave screens.

g.

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From Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com  Sun Dec 27 17:18:08 2009
From: Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com (Sean Galbraith)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 14:18:08 +1300
Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX
Message-ID: <000101ca875b$97985a38$0200a8c0@pacsim.local>

You can change the zoom level by editting the saved flight file, but you have no way, that I have found anyway, to change the FOV that FS uses (unlike X-Plane which is easy....)

SeanG 

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene Buckle <geneb at deltasoft.com>
Sent: Monday, 28 December 2009 14:13
To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] FSX

>> From the expeimenting that I've done FSX doesn't zoom in the same way 
>> that FS9 does.  In FS9 you could zoom out to 0.31 which gave you about 
>> 120 degrees, then by editting the saved flight you could bring the zoom 
>> out to about 0.25 which gave a little more.  FSX doesn't appear to show 
>> the same field of view to zoom ratio.
> The only way I managed to achieve a true 180 degree view was by 
> undocking and maximizing 3 separate views.  With TH2GO this was very 
> very heavy on processor time, so I ended up switching to a quad-SLI 
> motherboard with 3 9800GT's installed. This worked fine, but ended up 
> being unstable, with regular crashes to desktop.  Now this was all in 
> FS9 running XP Pro, and I would suspect that FSX and Vista might be a 
> better combo.... Hth

Sean, isn't there a config file you can hand edit for setting the FOV 
and/or zoom level?

g.

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From Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com  Sun Dec 27 17:26:15 2009
From: Sean.Galbraith at pacificsimulators.com (Sean Galbraith)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 14:26:15 +1300
Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX
Message-ID: <000201ca875c$ba2be7af$0200a8c0@pacsim.local>

....and it is a brilliant piece of software to use!  I have done a few curved screen installs using TH2GO, 3 projectors and a nice big curved sceen :-)

My suggestion for achieving a true 180 would be the three video card solution, with SOL7 or something similar to do the edge blending.
I hope to do some testing with Win7 and 3 graphics cards soon....

SeanG

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene Buckle <geneb at deltasoft.com>
Sent: Monday, 28 December 2009 14:21
To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] FSX

On Sun, 27 Dec 2009, frank at rezultat.dk wrote:

> .... or Sol7 with TH2G > Left, Front, Right view - ??
>
>
Sol7 was designed for smooth edge blending with projectors and a TH2G.  It 
can also warp the output for use on dome & concave screens.

g.

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From frank at rezultat.dk  Sun Dec 27 18:11:20 2009
From: frank at rezultat.dk (frank at rezultat.dk)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 03:11:20 +0100
Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX
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References: <000201ca875c$ba2be7af$0200a8c0@pacsim.local>
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Okay Sean
How to set up thge 3 projectos on a curved 180dg screen

left pointing 90dg left from front and right 90dg right ???
and how big picture are your advice - 2x3 meter on each projector ??


/Frank

> ....and it is a brilliant piece of software to use!  I have done a few
> curved screen installs using TH2GO, 3 projectors and a nice big curved
> sceen :-)
>
> My suggestion for achieving a true 180 would be the three video card
> solution, with SOL7 or something similar to do the edge blending.
> I hope to do some testing with Win7 and 3 graphics cards soon....
>
> SeanG
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gene Buckle <geneb at deltasoft.com>
> Sent: Monday, 28 December 2009 14:21
> To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] FSX
>
> On Sun, 27 Dec 2009, frank at rezultat.dk wrote:
>
>> .... or Sol7 with TH2G > Left, Front, Right view - ??
>>
>>
> Sol7 was designed for smooth edge blending with projectors and a TH2G.  It
> can also warp the output for use on dome & concave screens.
>
> g.
>
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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Mon Dec 28 08:51:03 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 08:51:03 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX
In-Reply-To: <000101ca875b$97985a38$0200a8c0@pacsim.local>
References: <000101ca875b$97985a38$0200a8c0@pacsim.local>
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On Mon, 28 Dec 2009, Sean Galbraith wrote:

> You can change the zoom level by editting the saved flight file, but you 
> have no way, that I have found anyway, to change the FOV that FS uses 
> (unlike X-Plane which is easy....)

I found this bit on my F-15 site:

Default is 1. These settings are in panel.cfg

[Views]
VIEW_FORWARD_ZOOM=0.65
VIEW_FORWARD_LEFT_ZOOM=0.65
VIEW_FORWARD_RIGHT_ZOOM=0.65
VIEW_LEFT_ZOOM=0.65
VIEW_RIGHT_ZOOM=0.65
VIEW_REAR_LEFT_ZOOM=0.65
VIEW_REAR_RIGHT_ZOOM=0.65
VIEW_REAR_ZOOM=0.65
VIEV_UP_ZOOM=0.65

Give this a shot and let me know if it works.

g.

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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Mon Dec 28 08:51:42 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 08:51:42 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX
In-Reply-To: <000201ca875c$ba2be7af$0200a8c0@pacsim.local>
References: <000201ca875c$ba2be7af$0200a8c0@pacsim.local>
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> ....and it is a brilliant piece of software to use!  I have done a few 
> curved screen installs using TH2GO, 3 projectors and a nice big curved 
> sceen :-)
>
> My suggestion for achieving a true 180 would be the three video card 
> solution, with SOL7 or something similar to do the edge blending. I hope 
> to do some testing with Win7 and 3 graphics cards soon....

I just wish it was priced reasonably. :(

g.

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From brian at Sikkema.us  Mon Dec 28 09:33:35 2009
From: brian at Sikkema.us (Brian Sikkema)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 20:33:35 +0300
Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912280851240.22345@grumble.deltasoft.com>
References: <000201ca875c$ba2be7af$0200a8c0@pacsim.local>
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Message-ID: <4B38EBEF.1030206@Sikkema.us>


> I just wish it was priced reasonably. :(
>   

You know, $430 sounds like a lot, but if you've just dropped enough coin 
to get 2-3 projectors, a TH2G and screens to accommodate this whole 
setup... Well $430 wouldn't be that much more. Heck it's about the cost 
of a replacement bulb for a lot of projectors. Tack on the cost of an 
entire sim behind that projection setup and it's even more reasonable. 
These folks have developed what appears to me to be a really powerful, 
flexible software solution to, lets face it, a very niche problem. I 
wouldn't hold out for anything much cheaper.

Brian

From allendc at qwest.net  Mon Dec 28 09:37:33 2009
From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:37:33 -0700
Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX
In-Reply-To: <4B38EBEF.1030206@Sikkema.us>
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	<4B38EBEF.1030206@Sikkema.us>
Message-ID: <20091228173744.C982B22DFCE@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net>

At 08:33 PM 12/28/2009 +0300, you wrote:

> > I just wish it was priced reasonably. :(
> >
>
>You know, $430 sounds like a lot, but if you've just dropped enough coin
>to get 2-3 projectors, a TH2G and screens to accommodate this whole
>setup... Well $430 wouldn't be that much more. Heck it's about the cost
>of a replacement bulb for a lot of projectors. Tack on the cost of an
>entire sim behind that projection setup and it's even more reasonable.
>These folks have developed what appears to me to be a really powerful,
>flexible software solution to, lets face it, a very niche problem. I
>wouldn't hold out for anything much cheaper.
>
>Brian

I think they removed the edge blending for the home version. I 
thought it was a very reasonable price for what you get. I agree with 
Brian's cost analysis.

David
www.737FlightSim.com 


From allendc at qwest.net  Mon Dec 28 09:46:10 2009
From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:46:10 -0700
Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX FOV
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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Mon Dec 28 10:23:18 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:23:18 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX
In-Reply-To: <4B38EBEF.1030206@Sikkema.us>
References: <000201ca875c$ba2be7af$0200a8c0@pacsim.local>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0912280851240.22345@grumble.deltasoft.com>
	<4B38EBEF.1030206@Sikkema.us>
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>> I just wish it was priced reasonably. :(
>>
>
> You know, $430 sounds like a lot, but if you've just dropped enough coin
> to get 2-3 projectors, a TH2G and screens to accommodate this whole
> setup... Well $430 wouldn't be that much more. Heck it's about the cost
> of a replacement bulb for a lot of projectors. Tack on the cost of an
> entire sim behind that projection setup and it's even more reasonable.
> These folks have developed what appears to me to be a really powerful,
> flexible software solution to, lets face it, a very niche problem. I
> wouldn't hold out for anything much cheaper.
>
The problem is that all those things can be had piecemeal.  I'm scratch 
building my own projectors because I can't afford to drop $1k each on 
them when I can build them myself for $400.

I guess it just galls me that they charge so much for a one trick pony. 
Being the only game in town however, they're charging what the market will 
bear.

g.


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http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

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From allendc at qwest.net  Mon Dec 28 10:34:56 2009
From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:34:56 -0700
Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912281021340.23932@grumble.deltasoft.com>
References: <000201ca875c$ba2be7af$0200a8c0@pacsim.local>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0912280851240.22345@grumble.deltasoft.com>
	<4B38EBEF.1030206@Sikkema.us>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0912281021340.23932@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <20091228183606.9E7D3627ACA@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net>

At 10:23 AM 12/28/2009 -0800, you wrote:
> >> I just wish it was priced reasonably. :(
> >>
> >
> > You know, $430 sounds like a lot, but if you've just dropped enough coin
> > to get 2-3 projectors, a TH2G and screens to accommodate this whole
> > setup... Well $430 wouldn't be that much more. Heck it's about the cost
> > of a replacement bulb for a lot of projectors. Tack on the cost of an
> > entire sim behind that projection setup and it's even more reasonable.
> > These folks have developed what appears to me to be a really powerful,
> > flexible software solution to, lets face it, a very niche problem. I
> > wouldn't hold out for anything much cheaper.
> >
>The problem is that all those things can be had piecemeal.  I'm scratch
>building my own projectors because I can't afford to drop $1k each on
>them when I can build them myself for $400.
>
>I guess it just galls me that they charge so much for a one trick pony.
>Being the only game in town however, they're charging what the market will
>bear.

Gene
What do people think "money wise" when you tell them you have a REAL F15.

You should be thankful you get any deals! ! ! ! !

David
www.737FlightSim.com 


From lestatandakasha at msn.com  Mon Dec 28 11:23:56 2009
From: lestatandakasha at msn.com (lestatandakasha at msn.com)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:23:56 -0000
Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912281021340.23932@grumble.deltasoft.com>
References: <000201ca875c$ba2be7af$0200a8c0@pacsim.local><alpine.LFD.1.10.0912280851240.22345@grumble.deltasoft.com><4B38EBEF.1030206@Sikkema.us>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0912281021340.23932@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <BLU134-DS4C1695E94963AB2F148A0A47B0@phx.gbl>

Gene, if my memory serves me correctly, your building projectors from flat 
screen kits and OHP's right?

If that is the case - you wont be using shiny digital widescreen monitors, 
and will instead be using standard resolution monitors.

In that case do what i did - don't be looking at a new digital TH2G - Get on 
e-bay and pick up an analogue one for $200. I got mine for ?90 last year and 
its brilliant.

If you don't need bells - don't buy them - you taught me that. The only 
difference is the offset adjustment and bezel adjustment, which frankly you 
can do by hand by physically shifting the viewpiont of the projectors.

Just an idea, i just hate this "ripoff" mentality that  a lot of FS hardware 
companies like Matrox have.

Jamie.



--------------------------------------------------
From: "Gene Buckle" <geneb at deltasoft.com>
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 6:23 PM
To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] FSX

>>> I just wish it was priced reasonably. :(
>>>
>>
>> You know, $430 sounds like a lot, but if you've just dropped enough coin
>> to get 2-3 projectors, a TH2G and screens to accommodate this whole
>> setup... Well $430 wouldn't be that much more. Heck it's about the cost
>> of a replacement bulb for a lot of projectors. Tack on the cost of an
>> entire sim behind that projection setup and it's even more reasonable.
>> These folks have developed what appears to me to be a really powerful,
>> flexible software solution to, lets face it, a very niche problem. I
>> wouldn't hold out for anything much cheaper.
>>
> The problem is that all those things can be had piecemeal.  I'm scratch
> building my own projectors because I can't afford to drop $1k each on
> them when I can build them myself for $400.
>
> I guess it just galls me that they charge so much for a one trick pony.
> Being the only game in town however, they're charging what the market will
> bear.
>
> g.
>
>
> -- 
> Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
> http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
>
> ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
> A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
> http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!
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> 

From geneb at deltasoft.com  Mon Dec 28 13:15:59 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 13:15:59 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX
In-Reply-To: <20091228183606.9E7D3627ACA@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net>
References: <000201ca875c$ba2be7af$0200a8c0@pacsim.local>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0912280851240.22345@grumble.deltasoft.com>
	<4B38EBEF.1030206@Sikkema.us>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0912281021340.23932@grumble.deltasoft.com>
	<20091228183606.9E7D3627ACA@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912281301140.25840@grumble.deltasoft.com>

> Gene
> What do people think "money wise" when you tell them you have a REAL F15.

No clue.  The jaw drop that happens when I tell 'em I only paid $1500 for 
it is priceless though. :)

As time goes on, the bar is getting lower and lower for people to build 
their own flight simulators.  When I started at this in 1995, the only 
game in town was EPIC.  Now there's a lot of stuff out there and it gets 
better and cheaper with every passing hardware generation.  For example, 
you can build a 32 channel output board that will sink 500mA per channel 
for $20 in parts and a few evenings of assembly time[*]  Commercially you 
can buy the same thing for $100-$150.

Yes, over time the small purchases add up - but the financial cost of 
building your dream project is a lot easier to handle spread over a long 
period of time.  If you're not starting out with a real cockpit or flight 
deck, the only real hard spike in project cost is going to be the video 
system.  Some people will go my route and build their projectors and 
others that can will spend the $2700-$3500+ for COTS projectors.  Sol7 
doesn't offer me enough value for the price they're charging.  I can just 
as easily construct a folded projection system based around convex acrylic 
first surface mirrors in combination with concave screens.  The only real 
feature that Sol7 has that I could use would be the edge blending and 
apparently that's not available in the $470 edition.  I'd rather spend the 
money on those first surface mirrors and do the edge alignment by hand.

g.

[*] "Warning & Status Lights" project in Building Recreational Flight 
Simulators



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A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Mon Dec 28 13:22:39 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 13:22:39 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX
In-Reply-To: <BLU134-DS4C1695E94963AB2F148A0A47B0@phx.gbl>
References: <000201ca875c$ba2be7af$0200a8c0@pacsim.local><alpine.LFD.1.10.0912280851240.22345@grumble.deltasoft.com><4B38EBEF.1030206@Sikkema.us>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0912281021340.23932@grumble.deltasoft.com>
	<BLU134-DS4C1695E94963AB2F148A0A47B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912281317070.25840@grumble.deltasoft.com>

> Gene, if my memory serves me correctly, your building projectors from flat
> screen kits and OHP's right?
>
Not any longer.  It turns out that the only affordable LCD panels with no 
FFC issues are far too large to live on the 10" stage size of an overhead 
projector.  I'm going to be building my projectors from surplus Dell 15" 
LCD panels and a hardware kit sold by diyprojectorkits.com:
http://diyprojectorkits.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id


> In that case do what i did - don't be looking at a new digital TH2G - Get on
> e-bay and pick up an analogue one for $200. I got mine for ?90 last year and
> its brilliant.
>
I actually bought a standard TH2G in early 2007 in anticipation of need

> Just an idea, i just hate this "ripoff" mentality that  a lot of FS hardware
> companies like Matrox have.
>
The Matrox hardware is a good value for the price considering what it 
does.

g.

-- 
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!

From rd at ns.sympatico.ca  Mon Dec 28 13:38:22 2009
From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:38:22 -0400
Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX
References: <000201ca875c$ba2be7af$0200a8c0@pacsim.local><alpine.LFD.1.10.0912280851240.22345@grumble.deltasoft.com><4B38EBEF.1030206@Sikkema.us><alpine.LFD.1.10.0912281021340.23932@grumble.deltasoft.com><20091228183606.9E7D3627ACA@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0912281301140.25840@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <035d01ca8806$14b814b0$0b02a8c0@your384jh9sv0b>

Well said Gene,

Spreading it out also helps on the wife front as she tends to forget what 
I've actually put out over the years!  I could be fiddling around with a new 
toy and say to her ... "This? Oh, I've had that here for years now. Forgot 
all about it actually. Don't you remember that box over there in the corner 
all these years?

>puzzled look ... leaves basement ... shaking head <

BWHAHAHAHA!

R


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gene Buckle" <geneb at deltasoft.com>
To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] FSX


>> Gene
>> What do people think "money wise" when you tell them you have a REAL F15.
>
> No clue.  The jaw drop that happens when I tell 'em I only paid $1500 for
> it is priceless though. :)
>
> As time goes on, the bar is getting lower and lower for people to build
> their own flight simulators.  When I started at this in 1995, the only
> game in town was EPIC.  Now there's a lot of stuff out there and it gets
> better and cheaper with every passing hardware generation.  For example,
> you can build a 32 channel output board that will sink 500mA per channel
> for $20 in parts and a few evenings of assembly time[*]  Commercially you
> can buy the same thing for $100-$150.
>
> Yes, over time the small purchases add up - but the financial cost of
> building your dream project is a lot easier to handle spread over a long
> period of time.  If you're not starting out with a real cockpit or flight
> deck, the only real hard spike in project cost is going to be the video
> system.  Some people will go my route and build their projectors and
> others that can will spend the $2700-$3500+ for COTS projectors.  Sol7
> doesn't offer me enough value for the price they're charging.  I can just
> as easily construct a folded projection system based around convex acrylic
> first surface mirrors in combination with concave screens.  The only real
> feature that Sol7 has that I could use would be the edge blending and
> apparently that's not available in the $470 edition.  I'd rather spend the
> money on those first surface mirrors and do the edge alignment by hand.
>
> g.
>
> [*] "Warning & Status Lights" project in Building Recreational Flight
> Simulators
>
>
>
> -- 
> Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
> http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
>
> ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
> A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
> http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!
> _______________________________________________
> Simpits-tech mailing list
> Simpits-tech at simpits.org
> http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech
> To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above 
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From lestatandakasha at msn.com  Mon Dec 28 14:53:22 2009
From: lestatandakasha at msn.com (lestatandakasha at msn.com)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 22:53:22 -0000
Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX
In-Reply-To: <035d01ca8806$14b814b0$0b02a8c0@your384jh9sv0b>
References: <000201ca875c$ba2be7af$0200a8c0@pacsim.local><alpine.LFD.1.10.0912280851240.22345@grumble.deltasoft.com><4B38EBEF.1030206@Sikkema.us><alpine.LFD.1.10.0912281021340.23932@grumble.deltasoft.com><20091228183606.9E7D3627ACA@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net><alpine.LFD.1.10.0912281301140.25840@grumble.deltasoft.com>
	<035d01ca8806$14b814b0$0b02a8c0@your384jh9sv0b>
Message-ID: <BLU134-DS3151D18B3C80C5307F10CA47B0@phx.gbl>

This is exactly what i have ended up doing. And i have had exactly the same 
conversation with my wife.

I agree Matrox TH2G is an amazing product - but the massive hike in the 
price since Microsoft stopped Vista from monitor spanning has annoyed me 
immensely - their product prices have risen by 50% but the products 
themselves remain the same.

Anyway - ill leave you to it again.

PS Gene - thank you for that link, a very very useful find indeed - i shall 
be handing them some money :)

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Rick Davis" <rd at ns.sympatico.ca>
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 9:38 PM
To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] FSX

> Well said Gene,
>
> Spreading it out also helps on the wife front as she tends to forget what
> I've actually put out over the years!  I could be fiddling around with a 
> new
> toy and say to her ... "This? Oh, I've had that here for years now. Forgot
> all about it actually. Don't you remember that box over there in the 
> corner
> all these years?
>
>>puzzled look ... leaves basement ... shaking head <
>
> BWHAHAHAHA!
>
> R
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gene Buckle" <geneb at deltasoft.com>
> To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 5:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] FSX
>
>
>>> Gene
>>> What do people think "money wise" when you tell them you have a REAL 
>>> F15.
>>
>> No clue.  The jaw drop that happens when I tell 'em I only paid $1500 for
>> it is priceless though. :)
>>
>> As time goes on, the bar is getting lower and lower for people to build
>> their own flight simulators.  When I started at this in 1995, the only
>> game in town was EPIC.  Now there's a lot of stuff out there and it gets
>> better and cheaper with every passing hardware generation.  For example,
>> you can build a 32 channel output board that will sink 500mA per channel
>> for $20 in parts and a few evenings of assembly time[*]  Commercially you
>> can buy the same thing for $100-$150.
>>
>> Yes, over time the small purchases add up - but the financial cost of
>> building your dream project is a lot easier to handle spread over a long
>> period of time.  If you're not starting out with a real cockpit or flight
>> deck, the only real hard spike in project cost is going to be the video
>> system.  Some people will go my route and build their projectors and
>> others that can will spend the $2700-$3500+ for COTS projectors.  Sol7
>> doesn't offer me enough value for the price they're charging.  I can just
>> as easily construct a folded projection system based around convex 
>> acrylic
>> first surface mirrors in combination with concave screens.  The only real
>> feature that Sol7 has that I could use would be the edge blending and
>> apparently that's not available in the $470 edition.  I'd rather spend 
>> the
>> money on those first surface mirrors and do the edge alignment by hand.
>>
>> g.
>>
>> [*] "Warning & Status Lights" project in Building Recreational Flight
>> Simulators
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
>> http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
>>
>> ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
>> A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
>> http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!
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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Mon Dec 28 18:08:23 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:08:23 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX
In-Reply-To: <035d01ca8806$14b814b0$0b02a8c0@your384jh9sv0b>
References: <000201ca875c$ba2be7af$0200a8c0@pacsim.local><alpine.LFD.1.10.0912280851240.22345@grumble.deltasoft.com><4B38EBEF.1030206@Sikkema.us><alpine.LFD.1.10.0912281021340.23932@grumble.deltasoft.com><20091228183606.9E7D3627ACA@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0912281301140.25840@grumble.deltasoft.com>
	<035d01ca8806$14b814b0$0b02a8c0@your384jh9sv0b>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912281807380.28937@grumble.deltasoft.com>


> Well said Gene,
>
> Spreading it out also helps on the wife front as she tends to forget what
> I've actually put out over the years!  I could be fiddling around with a new
> toy and say to her ... "This? Oh, I've had that here for years now. Forgot
> all about it actually. Don't you remember that box over there in the corner
> all these years?
>
>> puzzled look ... leaves basement ... shaking head <
>
> BWHAHAHAHA!
>

The funny thing is, that's actually true. :)  I've been working with parts 
that I originally bought years ago in anticipation of future need...

g.

-- 
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!

From geneb at deltasoft.com  Mon Dec 28 18:11:32 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:11:32 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX
In-Reply-To: <BLU134-DS3151D18B3C80C5307F10CA47B0@phx.gbl>
References: <000201ca875c$ba2be7af$0200a8c0@pacsim.local><alpine.LFD.1.10.0912280851240.22345@grumble.deltasoft.com><4B38EBEF.1030206@Sikkema.us><alpine.LFD.1.10.0912281021340.23932@grumble.deltasoft.com><20091228183606.9E7D3627ACA@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net><alpine.LFD.1.10.0912281301140.25840@grumble.deltasoft.com>
	<035d01ca8806$14b814b0$0b02a8c0@your384jh9sv0b>
	<BLU134-DS3151D18B3C80C5307F10CA47B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912281810381.28937@grumble.deltasoft.com>

> I agree Matrox TH2G is an amazing product - but the massive hike in the
> price since Microsoft stopped Vista from monitor spanning has annoyed me
> immensely - their product prices have risen by 50% but the products
> themselves remain the same.
>
Eh?  It's not up to Microsoft, it's the driver vendor that handles the 
display spanning.  What video card are you using?

g.

-- 
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!

From lestatandakasha at msn.com  Tue Dec 29 02:16:04 2009
From: lestatandakasha at msn.com (lestatandakasha at msn.com)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 10:16:04 -0000
Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912281810381.28937@grumble.deltasoft.com>
References: <000201ca875c$ba2be7af$0200a8c0@pacsim.local><alpine.LFD.1.10.0912280851240.22345@grumble.deltasoft.com><4B38EBEF.1030206@Sikkema.us><alpine.LFD.1.10.0912281021340.23932@grumble.deltasoft.com><20091228183606.9E7D3627ACA@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net><alpine.LFD.1.10.0912281301140.25840@grumble.deltasoft.com><035d01ca8806$14b814b0$0b02a8c0@your384jh9sv0b><BLU134-DS3151D18B3C80C5307F10CA47B0@phx.gbl>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0912281810381.28937@grumble.deltasoft.com>
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Sorry i wasnt clear. When Vista was introduced in included a new WDDM 1.0 
(Windows Display Driver Model), this now prevents users from using the 
Horizontal span that allowed us to mimic what TH2G does through multiple 
G/cards. Graphic drivers no longer support the feature because it has been 
disabled permanently by the new model architecture.

WDDM 1.0 Literally is a new architecture that was built for the WDM built 
into Vistas shiny desktop features (which i have mostly turned off) and is a 
death knell for wide screen gaming on a budget.

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Gene Buckle" <geneb at deltasoft.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:11 AM
To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] FSX

>> I agree Matrox TH2G is an amazing product - but the massive hike in the
>> price since Microsoft stopped Vista from monitor spanning has annoyed me
>> immensely - their product prices have risen by 50% but the products
>> themselves remain the same.
>>
> Eh?  It's not up to Microsoft, it's the driver vendor that handles the
> display spanning.  What video card are you using?
>
> g.
>
> -- 
> Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
> http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
>
> ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
> A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
> http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!
> _______________________________________________
> Simpits-tech mailing list
> Simpits-tech at simpits.org
> http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech
> To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above 
> page.  Thanks!
> 

From brian at Sikkema.us  Tue Dec 29 02:22:43 2009
From: brian at Sikkema.us (Brian Sikkema)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:22:43 +0300
Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912281807380.28937@grumble.deltasoft.com>
References: <000201ca875c$ba2be7af$0200a8c0@pacsim.local><alpine.LFD.1.10.0912280851240.22345@grumble.deltasoft.com><4B38EBEF.1030206@Sikkema.us><alpine.LFD.1.10.0912281021340.23932@grumble.deltasoft.com><20091228183606.9E7D3627ACA@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net>	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0912281301140.25840@grumble.deltasoft.com>	<035d01ca8806$14b814b0$0b02a8c0@your384jh9sv0b>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0912281807380.28937@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <4B39D873.3090909@Sikkema.us>


> The funny thing is, that's actually true. :)  I've been working with parts 
> that I originally bought years ago in anticipation of future need...
>
> g.
>
>   
I'm still slowly whittling my way through a massive bag of momentary 
contact switches I bought in HIGH SCHOOL when I was gonna build an F-16 
sim! lol

Brian


From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Tue Dec 29 05:23:31 2009
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:23:31 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912281807380.28937@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0912291323001.17472-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Mon, 28 Dec 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:

>
> The funny thing is, that's actually true. :)  I've been working with parts
> that I originally bought years ago in anticipation of future need...
>

It's a guy thing isn't it.  "Oh that's so cool, gotta have one - it's
bound to come in handy one day..."


--

Roy Coates.
Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From lestatandakasha at msn.com  Tue Dec 29 05:35:32 2009
From: lestatandakasha at msn.com (lestatandakasha at msn.com)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:35:32 -0000
Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0912291323001.17472-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0912291323001.17472-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <BLU134-DS1629C4FD55902D60D33E3A47A0@phx.gbl>

I have a whole room dedicated to stuff like that. Right down to - "before i 
throw out that PSU, ill need to take out the Diodes."

The only annoying thing is when your in full swing and you have a sudden 
need for the gizmo you bought 2 years ago, and realize that in fact you 
should have got 2 of them.

Ladies do it too, but in their case its shoes - "But baby, i might get a red 
fake leather dress one day!"
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Roy Coates" <roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk>
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 1:23 PM
To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] FSX

> On Mon, 28 Dec 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:
>
>>
>> The funny thing is, that's actually true. :)  I've been working with 
>> parts
>> that I originally bought years ago in anticipation of future need...
>>
>
> It's a guy thing isn't it.  "Oh that's so cool, gotta have one - it's
> bound to come in handy one day..."
>
>
> --
>
> Roy Coates.
> Dept of Engineering.
> Liverpool University.
> E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
> Tel: 0151 794 4862
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs 
> meter.
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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> 

From geneb at deltasoft.com  Tue Dec 29 08:14:22 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 08:14:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX
In-Reply-To: <BLU134-DS30964513E9F0C16C89ED2A47A0@phx.gbl>
References: <000201ca875c$ba2be7af$0200a8c0@pacsim.local><alpine.LFD.1.10.0912280851240.22345@grumble.deltasoft.com><4B38EBEF.1030206@Sikkema.us><alpine.LFD.1.10.0912281021340.23932@grumble.deltasoft.com><20091228183606.9E7D3627ACA@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net><alpine.LFD.1.10.0912281301140.25840@grumble.deltasoft.com><035d01ca8806$14b814b0$0b02a8c0@your384jh9sv0b><BLU134-DS3151D18B3C80C5307F10CA47B0@phx.gbl>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0912281810381.28937@grumble.deltasoft.com>
	<BLU134-DS30964513E9F0C16C89ED2A47A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912290812240.6497@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Tue, 29 Dec 2009, lestatandakasha at msn.com wrote:

> Sorry i wasnt clear. When Vista was introduced in included a new WDDM 1.0
> (Windows Display Driver Model), this now prevents users from using the
> Horizontal span that allowed us to mimic what TH2G does through multiple
> G/cards. Graphic drivers no longer support the feature because it has been
> disabled permanently by the new model architecture.
>
> WDDM 1.0 Literally is a new architecture that was built for the WDM built
> into Vistas shiny desktop features (which i have mostly turned off) and is a
> death knell for wide screen gaming on a budget.
>
I wasn't aware of that.  I've never done that kind of spanning before.

g.

-- 
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!

From geneb at deltasoft.com  Tue Dec 29 08:15:27 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 08:15:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX
In-Reply-To: <4B39D873.3090909@Sikkema.us>
References: <000201ca875c$ba2be7af$0200a8c0@pacsim.local><alpine.LFD.1.10.0912280851240.22345@grumble.deltasoft.com><4B38EBEF.1030206@Sikkema.us><alpine.LFD.1.10.0912281021340.23932@grumble.deltasoft.com><20091228183606.9E7D3627ACA@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0912281301140.25840@grumble.deltasoft.com>
	<035d01ca8806$14b814b0$0b02a8c0@your384jh9sv0b>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0912281807380.28937@grumble.deltasoft.com>
	<4B39D873.3090909@Sikkema.us>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912290815040.6497@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Tue, 29 Dec 2009, Brian Sikkema wrote:
>
>> The funny thing is, that's actually true. :)  I've been working with parts
>> that I originally bought years ago in anticipation of future need...
>>
>> g.
>>
>>
> I'm still slowly whittling my way through a massive bag of momentary
> contact switches I bought in HIGH SCHOOL when I was gonna build an F-16
> sim! lol
>
Well jeeze, that was what?  Last week or something? *ducks*

g.

-- 
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!

From geneb at deltasoft.com  Tue Dec 29 08:18:15 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 08:18:15 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0912291323001.17472-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0912291323001.17472-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912290816560.6497@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Tue, 29 Dec 2009, Roy Coates wrote:

> On Mon, 28 Dec 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:
>
>>
>> The funny thing is, that's actually true. :)  I've been working with parts
>> that I originally bought years ago in anticipation of future need...
>>
>
> It's a guy thing isn't it.  "Oh that's so cool, gotta have one - it's
> bound to come in handy one day..."
>
Yep!

What's worse, you buy one or two and then forget you have them and buy 
more later.  It's a never ending cycle. :)

g.

-- 
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!

From brian at Sikkema.us  Tue Dec 29 09:17:38 2009
From: brian at Sikkema.us (Brian Sikkema)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:17:38 +0300
Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912290815040.6497@grumble.deltasoft.com>
References: <000201ca875c$ba2be7af$0200a8c0@pacsim.local><alpine.LFD.1.10.0912280851240.22345@grumble.deltasoft.com><4B38EBEF.1030206@Sikkema.us><alpine.LFD.1.10.0912281021340.23932@grumble.deltasoft.com><20091228183606.9E7D3627ACA@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net>	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0912281301140.25840@grumble.deltasoft.com>	<035d01ca8806$14b814b0$0b02a8c0@your384jh9sv0b>	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0912281807380.28937@grumble.deltasoft.com>	<4B39D873.3090909@Sikkema.us>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0912290815040.6497@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <4B3A39B2.2010905@Sikkema.us>


> Well jeeze, that was what?  Last week or something? *ducks*
>
> g.
>
>   
Ha ha! Very funny.

You realize I've been bumming around this list for roughly 10 years now? 
Jeebus.... I need a life! lol

Brian

From geneb at deltasoft.com  Tue Dec 29 10:50:43 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 10:50:43 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX
In-Reply-To: <4B3A39B2.2010905@Sikkema.us>
References: <000201ca875c$ba2be7af$0200a8c0@pacsim.local><alpine.LFD.1.10.0912280851240.22345@grumble.deltasoft.com><4B38EBEF.1030206@Sikkema.us><alpine.LFD.1.10.0912281021340.23932@grumble.deltasoft.com><20091228183606.9E7D3627ACA@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net>
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	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0912281807380.28937@grumble.deltasoft.com>
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	<4B3A39B2.2010905@Sikkema.us>
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On Tue, 29 Dec 2009, Brian Sikkema wrote:
>> Well jeeze, that was what?  Last week or something? *ducks*
>>
>> g.
>>
>>
> Ha ha! Very funny.
>
> You realize I've been bumming around this list for roughly 10 years now?
> Jeebus.... I need a life! lol
>
No, you need a Mercury capsule!  :D

g.

-- 
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!

From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Tue Dec 29 11:39:44 2009
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:39:44 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912290816560.6497@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0912291939240.17891-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Tue, 29 Dec 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:

> > It's a guy thing isn't it.  "Oh that's so cool, gotta have one - it's
> > bound to come in handy one day..."
> >
> Yep!
>
> What's worse, you buy one or two and then forget you have them and buy
> more later.


Errr... and that's a problem?    ;-)


--

Roy Coates.
Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From rd at ns.sympatico.ca  Tue Dec 29 11:56:44 2009
From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:56:44 -0400
Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0912291939240.17891-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <007201ca88c1$0c471090$0b02a8c0@your384jh9sv0b>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roy Coates" <roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk>
To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] FSX


> On Tue, 29 Dec 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:
>
>> > It's a guy thing isn't it.  "Oh that's so cool, gotta have one - it's
>> > bound to come in handy one day..."
>> >
>> Yep!
>>
>> What's worse, you buy one or two and then forget you have them and buy
>> more later.
>
>
> Errr... and that's a problem?    ;-)

I just did that recently with a glass cutter. I knew I had a few of them, 
but after two hours of searching I said to hell with it and bought a new 
one. When I was done, I said, now, I'm going to hang that damned thing right 
on a nail over there so I can find it next time. Guess where the other three 
I had were? Right on the same nail.


>
>
> --
>
> Roy Coates.
> Dept of Engineering.
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From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Tue Dec 29 12:49:44 2009
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:49:44 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX
In-Reply-To: <007201ca88c1$0c471090$0b02a8c0@your384jh9sv0b>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0912292048160.17958-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Tue, 29 Dec 2009, Rick Davis wrote:

> >> What's worse, you buy one or two and then forget you have them and buy
> >> more later.
> >
> >
> > Errr... and that's a problem?    ;-)
>
> I just did that recently with a glass cutter. I knew I had a few of them,
> but after two hours of searching I said to hell with it and bought a new
> one. When I was done, I said, now, I'm going to hang that damned thing right
> on a nail over there so I can find it next time. Guess where the other three
> I had were? Right on the same nail.


HAR!  I'm so glad it's not just me that does that.

I had builders on-site for a couple of months building an extension on the
back of the house. Since they had to gain access via my garage/workshop
any time I can't find something, I (guiltily) assume one of the tradesmen
'swiped' it.

I've bought a few new tools since they were here, only to find the old
ones later.


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Roy Coates.
Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
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Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter.
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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Tue Dec 29 15:27:54 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:27:54 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0912291939240.17891-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0912291939240.17891-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0912291526580.6615@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Tue, 29 Dec 2009, Roy Coates wrote:

> On Tue, 29 Dec 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:
>
>>> It's a guy thing isn't it.  "Oh that's so cool, gotta have one - it's
>>> bound to come in handy one day..."
>>>
>> Yep!
>>
>> What's worse, you buy one or two and then forget you have them and buy
>> more later.
>
>
> Errr... and that's a problem?    ;-)

It is when they're stupidly expensive widgets.  :)

g.

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