From bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil  Thu Apr  2 18:00:55 2009
From: bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil (Brian Sikkema)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 21:00:55 -0400
Subject: [simpits-tech] Guage-making tutorial
Message-ID: <0536aa47e50447d5a1a16ecd65c35845.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil>

Hey guys,

A while back someone posted a guage-making tutorial
for MSFS, and I can't seem to find it back. Any
chance for the link again?

Brian


From timothyboldt at comcast.net  Fri Apr  3 01:10:06 2009
From: timothyboldt at comcast.net (timothyboldt at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 08:10:06 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Guage-making tutorial
In-Reply-To: <0536aa47e50447d5a1a16ecd65c35845.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil>
Message-ID: <1086917811.442421238746206434.JavaMail.root@sz0150a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>



Brian - I don't know about the tutorial...but if you're going to start building your own?guages, you really should get Mike Powell's book. 



http://www.mikesflightdeck.com/mfdbooks.htm 



Tim 




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Subject: [simpits-tech] Guage-making tutorial 

Hey guys, 

A while back someone posted a guage-making tutorial 
for MSFS, and I can't seem to find it back. Any 
chance for the link again? 

Brian 

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From bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil  Fri Apr  3 05:03:30 2009
From: bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil (Brian Sikkema)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 08:03:30 -0400
Subject: [simpits-tech] Guage-making tutorial
Message-ID: <882ad63f0e5e40d6b71e482c9ba93d31.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil>

>Brian - I don't know about the tutorial...but if
you're going to start building your own guages, you
really should get Mike Powell's book.
 
Yeah, Mike's book is definitely on my radar, but at
the moment I'm not talking about making physical
gauges. I'm working on updated panels for the Project
Mercury addon, and the tutorial I'm thinking of had
some really good techniques for making very realistic
gauge faces.

Brian


From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Fri Apr  3 07:49:24 2009
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:49:24 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Painting Gauges (for Brian)
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0904031548300.27229-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>



Brian, I think this is what you were looking for - I hope!

http://www.flightlab.liv.ac.uk/~roy/gaupaint.zip

Roy.



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From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Fri Apr  3 07:11:47 2009
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:11:47 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Guage-making tutorial
In-Reply-To: <882ad63f0e5e40d6b71e482c9ba93d31.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0904031510550.27229-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Fri, 3 Apr 2009, Brian Sikkema wrote:

> Yeah, Mike's book is definitely on my radar, but at
> the moment I'm not talking about making physical
> gauges. I'm working on updated panels for the Project
> Mercury addon, and the tutorial I'm thinking of had
> some really good techniques for making very realistic
> gauge faces.


Hi Brian - I know the tutorial you are talking about, I recall that it was
pretty good and used Paintshop Pro.

I can't for the life of me remember where it was though. Sorry !

Roy.


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From bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil  Sat Apr  4 00:31:01 2009
From: bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil (Brian Sikkema)
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 03:31:01 -0400
Subject: [simpits-tech] Painting Gauges (for Brian)
Message-ID: <1370f57452b343888e08f64b2a610652.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil>


 >

>Brian, I think this is what you were looking for - I
hope!

> http://www.flightlab.liv.ac.uk/~roy/gaupaint.zip 

>Roy.

Indeed it was! Thank you, Roy.

:)


From bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil  Tue Apr  7 05:26:15 2009
From: bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil (Brian Sikkema)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:26:15 -0400
Subject: [simpits-tech] Funny looking jet
Message-ID: <1c06ee24e3f04f268ae04733b0c12980.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil>

http://www.sikkema.us/CobraBall/

Wonder what in the world it was doing over the
Pacific a few days ago......

;)

Brian


From scerrito at roadrunner.com  Tue Apr  7 06:31:54 2009
From: scerrito at roadrunner.com (Scott Cerrito)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:31:54 -0400
Subject: [simpits-tech] Funny looking jet
References: <1c06ee24e3f04f268ae04733b0c12980.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil>
Message-ID: <D366D597E7E64DEB966128D801319EB2@DARKWOLFTAB>

any ideas on the paint scheme?
not exactly normal, no?

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Subject: [simpits-tech] Funny looking jet


> http://www.sikkema.us/CobraBall/
>
> Wonder what in the world it was doing over the
> Pacific a few days ago......
>
> ;)
>
> Brian
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From phoenixcomm at gmail.com  Tue Apr  7 07:09:43 2009
From: phoenixcomm at gmail.com (Cris Harrison)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:09:43 -0500
Subject: [simpits-tech] Funny looking jet
In-Reply-To: <1c06ee24e3f04f268ae04733b0c12980.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil>
References: <1c06ee24e3f04f268ae04733b0c12980.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil>
Message-ID: <020a01c9b78a$814432f0$83cc98d0$@com>

Most likely watching the N. Korean Missile that came down mid Pacific near
Hawaii. That's what it does. They have
A nice website http://www.fas.org/irp/program/collect/cobra_ball.htm

Cris Harrison
www.phoenixcomm.net/~phnx2000/sim
www.avi-tronix.com

 

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Subject: [simpits-tech] Funny looking jet

http://www.sikkema.us/CobraBall/

Wonder what in the world it was doing over the
Pacific a few days ago......

;)

Brian

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From catalina299 at gmail.com  Tue Apr  7 08:32:30 2009
From: catalina299 at gmail.com (William Segal)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:32:30 -0700
Subject: [simpits-tech] Funny looking jet
In-Reply-To: <1c06ee24e3f04f268ae04733b0c12980.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil>
References: <1c06ee24e3f04f268ae04733b0c12980.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil>
Message-ID: <3a0a6c680904070832x7aa2a41akfa10b6e7c3f9ae35@mail.gmail.com>

That could be the goofball express spy plane oops I forgot I am not supposed
to say that ?

On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 5:26 AM, Brian Sikkema <bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil>wrote:

> http://www.sikkema.us/CobraBall/
>
> Wonder what in the world it was doing over the
> Pacific a few days ago......
>
> ;)
>
> Brian
>
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From bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil  Tue Apr  7 18:52:53 2009
From: bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil (Brian Sikkema)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 21:52:53 -0400
Subject: [simpits-tech] Funny looking jet
Message-ID: <3bbc6be5449e48cb8c0c9bc4c45b53a5.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil>

 >Most likely watching the N. Korean Missile that came down mid Pacific >near
>Hawaii. That's what it does. They have
>A nice website  >http://www.fas.org/irp/program/collect/cobra_ball.htm"  target="_new"> 
>http://www.fas.org/irp/program/collect/cobra_ball.htm > 

And the "no $h!t sherlock" award goes to.... Who do you think took the pics? lol ;)

We've been sitting alert for 2 damn months waiting for the DPRK to get off their ass and launch this thing. Trust me, I'm very 
clear on what it does.

As for the paint scheme, the right wing and engines are like that to reduce glare. The cameras are on that side.

Brian




From geneb at deltasoft.com  Wed Apr 22 21:26:31 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 21:26:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] DONE!
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0904222123040.9613@grumble.deltasoft.com>

http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/death_from_above.jpg

I'd like you guys to go over the final draft of the manual to make sure 
that I haven't missed something obvious or made some stupid mistake. :)

http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/series_one_cockpit.pdf

The manual is about 7.5MB in size.

Once the manual is declared ok, I'll put up a link where the plans can be 
purchased.

Thanks all!

g.


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From dave_friend at tiscali.co.uk  Thu Apr 23 08:02:56 2009
From: dave_friend at tiscali.co.uk (Dave)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 16:02:56 +0100
Subject: [simpits-tech] DONE!
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0904222123040.9613@grumble.deltasoft.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0904222123040.9613@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <49F08320.4090003@tiscali.co.uk>

Gene

I don't wish to be picky but you say you are using 2" x 4" but when 
making the base up you mark a centre line at 1 3/4" which means a width 
of 31/2 inches not 4. This may lead to some confusion. I believe what 
you are using is whats called CLS in the UK which is 3 1/2" x 1 1/2". If 
we ask for 4 x 2" here we are likely to get just that, which may cause 
problems.

Dave

Gene Buckle wrote:
> http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/death_from_above.jpg
>
> I'd like you guys to go over the final draft of the manual to make sure 
> that I haven't missed something obvious or made some stupid mistake. :)
>
> http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/series_one_cockpit.pdf
>
> The manual is about 7.5MB in size.
>
> Once the manual is declared ok, I'll put up a link where the plans can be 
> purchased.
>
> Thanks all!
>
> g.
>
>
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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Thu Apr 23 08:46:25 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 08:46:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] DONE!
In-Reply-To: <49F08320.4090003@tiscali.co.uk>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0904222123040.9613@grumble.deltasoft.com>
	<49F08320.4090003@tiscali.co.uk>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0904230840360.16767@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Thu, 23 Apr 2009, Dave wrote:

> Gene
>
> I don't wish to be picky but you say you are using 2" x 4" but when
> making the base up you mark a centre line at 1 3/4" which means a width
> of 31/2 inches not 4. This may lead to some confusion. I believe what
> you are using is whats called CLS in the UK which is 3 1/2" x 1 1/2". If
> we ask for 4 x 2" here we are likely to get just that, which may cause
> problems.
>

This may be the case for the UK, but in the US a "2x4" isn't that and 
hasn't been for decades. :)

So you're saying that if you go into the UK equivalent of a Home Depot and 
asked for a 2x4 you'd actually get a board that was 2" x 4"?

g.

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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Thu Apr 23 08:47:30 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 08:47:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] new doc link...
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0904230846460.16767@grumble.deltasoft.com>


If you want to download the docs, you can grab them from 
http://www.vroon.org/pitkit/series_one_cockpit.pdf

Much faster download.

g.

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From rd at ns.sympatico.ca  Thu Apr 23 09:39:38 2009
From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 13:39:38 -0300
Subject: [simpits-tech] DONE!
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0904222123040.9613@grumble.deltasoft.com><49F08320.4090003@tiscali.co.uk>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0904230840360.16767@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <006e01c9c432$185dd020$0a02a8c0@your384jh9sv0b>

 I have a friend who recently immigrated here from the UK. He was building 
himself a 30' x 60' barn, and insisted that the plywood sheathing went on 
the INSIDE of the walls and the Insulation went on the outside. The building 
inspector told him he could build it the way they do in the UK if he wanted, 
so long as he enjoyed pulling nails and doing it over again!

I have about 30 houses under my belt, and like you say Gene, I haven't seen 
a full 2 x 4 since we used matches to light our smokes.

R


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gene Buckle" <geneb at deltasoft.com>
To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] DONE!


> On Thu, 23 Apr 2009, Dave wrote:
>
>> Gene
>>
>> I don't wish to be picky but you say you are using 2" x 4" but when
>> making the base up you mark a centre line at 1 3/4" which means a width
>> of 31/2 inches not 4. This may lead to some confusion. I believe what
>> you are using is whats called CLS in the UK which is 3 1/2" x 1 1/2". If
>> we ask for 4 x 2" here we are likely to get just that, which may cause
>> problems.
>>
>
> This may be the case for the UK, but in the US a "2x4" isn't that and
> hasn't been for decades. :)
>
> So you're saying that if you go into the UK equivalent of a Home Depot and
> asked for a 2x4 you'd actually get a board that was 2" x 4"?
>
> g.
>
> -- 
> Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
> http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
>
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> http://gpl.openqm.com - Get it _today_!
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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Thu Apr 23 10:18:35 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 10:18:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] DONE!
In-Reply-To: <006e01c9c432$185dd020$0a02a8c0@your384jh9sv0b>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0904222123040.9613@grumble.deltasoft.com><49F08320.4090003@tiscali.co.uk>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0904230840360.16767@grumble.deltasoft.com>
	<006e01c9c432$185dd020$0a02a8c0@your384jh9sv0b>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0904231017580.19209@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Thu, 23 Apr 2009, Rick Davis wrote:

> I have a friend who recently immigrated here from the UK. He was building
> himself a 30' x 60' barn, and insisted that the plywood sheathing went on
> the INSIDE of the walls and the Insulation went on the outside. The building
> inspector told him he could build it the way they do in the UK if he wanted,
> so long as he enjoyed pulling nails and doing it over again!
>
Wow.  That explains _so_ much.  *peers at Roy, ducks*

:)

g.

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From dave_friend at tiscali.co.uk  Thu Apr 23 09:59:38 2009
From: dave_friend at tiscali.co.uk (Dave)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 17:59:38 +0100
Subject: [simpits-tech] DONE!
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0904230840360.16767@grumble.deltasoft.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0904222123040.9613@grumble.deltasoft.com>	<49F08320.4090003@tiscali.co.uk>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0904230840360.16767@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <49F09E7A.2000401@tiscali.co.uk>

Gene Buckle wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Apr 2009, Dave wrote:
>
>   
>> Gene
>>
>> I don't wish to be picky but you say you are using 2" x 4" but when
>> making the base up you mark a centre line at 1 3/4" which means a width
>> of 31/2 inches not 4. This may lead to some confusion. I believe what
>> you are using is whats called CLS in the UK which is 3 1/2" x 1 1/2". If
>> we ask for 4 x 2" here we are likely to get just that, which may cause
>> problems.
>>
>>     
>
> This may be the case for the UK, but in the US a "2x4" isn't that and 
> hasn't been for decades. :)
>
> So you're saying that if you go into the UK equivalent of a Home Depot and 
> asked for a 2x4 you'd actually get a board that was 2" x 4"?
>
> g.
>   
>
If you tell someone who knows no better that they need 2x4 they will ask 
for 2x4. If they can't find it in their local DIY superstore they may 
try a timber merchant ( where it would be cheaper anyway), they will be 
sold 2x4 or its metric equivient 100 x 50 which is still the wrong size. 
If you only plan to sell in the US then no prob but elsewhere it may be 
different. No criticism just an observation.
The pits are fantastic both in design and construction and may well 
encourage many more lunatics over to the dark side of cockpit construction.

Thanks for all your hard work.

Dave

From geneb at deltasoft.com  Thu Apr 23 10:38:13 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 10:38:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] DONE!
In-Reply-To: <49F09E7A.2000401@tiscali.co.uk>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0904222123040.9613@grumble.deltasoft.com>
	<49F08320.4090003@tiscali.co.uk>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0904230840360.16767@grumble.deltasoft.com>
	<49F09E7A.2000401@tiscali.co.uk>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0904231037120.19690@grumble.deltasoft.com>

>>
>>
> If you tell someone who knows no better that they need 2x4 they will ask
> for 2x4. If they can't find it in their local DIY superstore they may
> try a timber merchant ( where it would be cheaper anyway), they will be
> sold 2x4 or its metric equivient 100 x 50 which is still the wrong size.

I'll make a note in the docs about this, just in case.  Thanks for the 
clarification.

> The pits are fantastic both in design and construction and may well
> encourage many more lunatics over to the dark side of cockpit construction.
>

Thanks Dave!  I figure if I sell 10 plan sets I'll be stunned. :)

g.

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From catalina299 at gmail.com  Thu Apr 23 12:10:58 2009
From: catalina299 at gmail.com (William Segal)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 12:10:58 -0700
Subject: [simpits-tech] DONE!
In-Reply-To: <006e01c9c432$185dd020$0a02a8c0@your384jh9sv0b>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0904222123040.9613@grumble.deltasoft.com> 
	<49F08320.4090003@tiscali.co.uk>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0904230840360.16767@grumble.deltasoft.com> 
	<006e01c9c432$185dd020$0a02a8c0@your384jh9sv0b>
Message-ID: <3a0a6c680904231210p36cb0e39i27e988e3f9116a0f@mail.gmail.com>

my 2cents Bill wrote

if its accurate within 1/4 but a friend several years ago with "The
Stanley Tool Company" suggested that
tapes are inaccurate they are close they do run off an average of a
1/4 of a inch in 12 feet measured electronic intruments

Big Kudos to Gene for taking the time to jump in to my issue and
finding the lowest common denominator

Thanks again Pal

oh my house built in 1948 has nothing but real live 2/4's 4x4's even 12x12's




On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Rick Davis <rd at ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
> ?I have a friend who recently immigrated here from the UK. He was building
> himself a 30' x 60' barn, and insisted that the plywood sheathing went on
> the INSIDE of the walls and the Insulation went on the outside. The building
> inspector told him he could build it the way they do in the UK if he wanted,
> so long as he enjoyed pulling nails and doing it over again!
>
> I have about 30 houses under my belt, and like you say Gene, I haven't seen
> a full 2 x 4 since we used matches to light our smokes.
>
> R
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gene Buckle" <geneb at deltasoft.com>
> To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 12:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] DONE!
>
>
>> On Thu, 23 Apr 2009, Dave wrote:
>>
>>> Gene
>>>
>>> I don't wish to be picky but you say you are using 2" x 4" but when
>>> making the base up you mark a centre line at 1 3/4" which means a width
>>> of 31/2 inches not 4. This may lead to some confusion. I believe what
>>> you are using is whats called CLS in the UK which is 3 1/2" x 1 1/2". If
>>> we ask for 4 x 2" here we are likely to get just that, which may cause
>>> problems.
>>>
>>
>> This may be the case for the UK, but in the US a "2x4" isn't that and
>> hasn't been for decades. :)
>>
>> So you're saying that if you go into the UK equivalent of a Home Depot and
>> asked for a 2x4 you'd actually get a board that was 2" x 4"?
>>
>> g.
>>
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From echotech1452 at gmail.com  Thu Apr 23 15:34:31 2009
From: echotech1452 at gmail.com (delor)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 22:34:31 +0000
Subject: [simpits-tech] Invitation to view delor's Picasa Web Album -
	BLOCK50 F16
Message-ID: <00163646c7b6d45bd30468407b52@google.com>



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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Thu Apr 23 16:47:21 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 16:47:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Invitation to view delor's Picasa Web Album -
 BLOCK50 F16
In-Reply-To: <00163646c7b6d45bd30468407b52@google.com>
References: <00163646c7b6d45bd30468407b52@google.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0904231647030.26974@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Thu, 23 Apr 2009, delor wrote:

>
>

Very nice!

Here's a shorter URL:

http://picasaweb.google.com/echotech1452/BLOCK50F16?feat=email#

g.

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From jollyroger1650 at bellsouth.net  Sun Apr 26 17:06:27 2009
From: jollyroger1650 at bellsouth.net (jollyroger1650 at bellsouth.net)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 00:06:27 +0000
Subject: [simpits-tech] You guys saw this right?
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0903261214070.28466@grumble.deltasoft.com>
References: <49CBB718.7090005@tiscali.co.uk>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0903261214070.28466@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <042720090006.6128.49F4F703000401CF000017F022218865869B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBFCFCAC0CE9D0A09019D9704040106@att.net>

It's pretty awesome I think.  Probably old news but thought I would share anyway

http://www.schreinerschmid.com/11501.html
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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Sun Apr 26 20:00:57 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 20:00:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] You guys saw this right?
In-Reply-To: <042720090006.6128.49F4F703000401CF000017F022218865869B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBFCFCAC0CE9D0A09019D9704040106@att.net>
References: <49CBB718.7090005@tiscali.co.uk>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0903261214070.28466@grumble.deltasoft.com>
	<042720090006.6128.49F4F703000401CF000017F022218865869B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBFCFCAC0CE9D0A09019D9704040106@att.net>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0904262000220.25157@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Mon, 27 Apr 2009, jollyroger1650 at bellsouth.net wrote:

> It's pretty awesome I think.  Probably old news but thought I would share anyway
>
> http://www.schreinerschmid.com/11501.html

Their stuff is very nice.  Staggeringly expensive too from what I've 
heard.  (The KG13 grip is north of $200)

g.

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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Sun Apr 26 20:58:34 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 20:58:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] DIY Cockpit Project...
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0904262054530.25657@grumble.deltasoft.com>


The project is finally completed!

The project site is online at http://www.geneb.org/pitkit.

The documentation is available for download and tops out at 195 pages.

I've decided to offer PDF files of the plans for those that want to tile 
print their own or to send the files to a local print ship for large 
format printing.

Details on the project and pricing can be found on the web site.  It's 
like Mad Magazine, CHEEP! :)

g.

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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Sun Apr 26 21:50:14 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 21:50:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] [x-plane-tech] DIY Cockpit Project...
In-Reply-To: <425EDA30-641E-4BCE-8A78-BB2938AECA39@farmside.co.nz>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0904262054530.25657@grumble.deltasoft.com>
	<425EDA30-641E-4BCE-8A78-BB2938AECA39@farmside.co.nz>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0904262149340.26030@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Mon, 27 Apr 2009, van Notten Eric wrote:

> Suggest DO NOT include the full-stop/dot at the end of the website
> address.
>
>> The project site is online at http://www.geneb.org/pitkit

Hehe.  Thanks.  Fixed. :)

g.

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From lestatandakasha at msn.com  Thu Apr 30 03:50:29 2009
From: lestatandakasha at msn.com (lestatandakasha at msn.com)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 11:50:29 +0100
Subject: [simpits-tech] new doc link...
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0904230846460.16767@grumble.deltasoft.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0904230846460.16767@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <BLU134-DS4AA74A70A104854C076D7A46C0@phx.gbl>

Gene i was looking at your youtube channel and i spotted your pedals 
prototype. Did you ever document this? I would love to see how they turned 
out and have a go myself.

Thank you,

Jamie.

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Gene Buckle" <geneb at deltasoft.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 4:47 PM
To: <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
Subject: [simpits-tech] new doc link...

>
> If you want to download the docs, you can grab them from
> http://www.vroon.org/pitkit/series_one_cockpit.pdf
>
> Much faster download.
>
> g.
>
> -- 
> Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
> http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
>
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> http://gpl.openqm.com - Get it _today_!
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From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Thu Apr 30 09:00:28 2009
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 17:00:28 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] DONE!
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0904231017580.19209@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0904301659480.23719-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Thu, 23 Apr 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:

> On Thu, 23 Apr 2009, Rick Davis wrote:
>
> > I have a friend who recently immigrated here from the UK. He was building
> > himself a 30' x 60' barn, and insisted that the plywood sheathing went on
> > the INSIDE of the walls and the Insulation went on the outside. The building
> > inspector told him he could build it the way they do in the UK if he wanted,
> > so long as he enjoyed pulling nails and doing it over again!
> >
> Wow.  That explains _so_ much.  *peers at Roy, ducks*


oi!!

Putting the insulation on the outside seems to me to be about as crazy
as anything gene gets up to.

--

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Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter.
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From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Thu Apr 30 09:01:52 2009
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 17:01:52 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] DONE!
In-Reply-To: <3a0a6c680904231210p36cb0e39i27e988e3f9116a0f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0904301701280.23719-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Thu, 23 Apr 2009, William Segal wrote:

>
> oh my house built in 1948 has nothing but real live 2/4's 4x4's even 12x12's
>



4x4's are hard enough to come by these days - but a 12x12 ??   Boggle !!


--

Roy Coates.
Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From geneb at deltasoft.com  Thu Apr 30 08:10:48 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 08:10:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] DONE!
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0904301659480.23719-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0904301659480.23719-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0904300809320.4519@grumble.deltasoft.com>

>> Wow.  That explains _so_ much.  *peers at Roy, ducks*
>
>
> oi!!
>
> Putting the insulation on the outside seems to me to be about as crazy
> as anything gene gets up to.
>

:)

If it's any consolation the diy cockpit project seems to be about as 
popular as a radioactive waste dump.

g.


-- 
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

OpenQM - A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://gpl.openqm.com - Get it _today_!

From geneb at deltasoft.com  Thu Apr 30 08:11:25 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 08:11:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] DONE!
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0904301701280.23719-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0904301701280.23719-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0904300811040.4519@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Thu, 30 Apr 2009, Roy Coates wrote:

> On Thu, 23 Apr 2009, William Segal wrote:
>
>>
>> oh my house built in 1948 has nothing but real live 2/4's 4x4's even 12x12's
>>
>
>
>
> 4x4's are hard enough to come by these days - but a 12x12 ??   Boggle !!
>

12x12's would make a great catapult frame though. :)

g.

-- 
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

OpenQM - A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://gpl.openqm.com - Get it _today_!

From raysot at comcast.net  Thu Apr 30 08:21:40 2009
From: raysot at comcast.net (raysot at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:21:40 +0000
Subject: [simpits-tech] DONE!
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0904300809320.4519@grumble.deltasoft.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0904301659480.23719-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk><alpine.LFD.1.10.0904300809320.4519@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <359668679-1241104875-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-218466772-@bxe1113.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

I'm seeing very little signs of life from other sim markets as well. We're pulling the plug on a few endeavors in search of greener pastures.


Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene Buckle <geneb at deltasoft.com>

Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 08:10:48 
To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List<simpits-tech at simpits.org>
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] DONE!


>> Wow.  That explains _so_ much.  *peers at Roy, ducks*
>
>
> oi!!
>
> Putting the insulation on the outside seems to me to be about as crazy
> as anything gene gets up to.
>

:)

If it's any consolation the diy cockpit project seems to be about as 
popular as a radioactive waste dump.

g.


-- 
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http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

OpenQM - A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
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From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Thu Apr 30 09:27:09 2009
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 17:27:09 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] DONE!
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0904300811040.4519@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0904301723470.23719-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Thu, 30 Apr 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:

> >> oh my house built in 1948 has nothing but real live 2/4's 4x4's even 12x12's
> >>
> > 4x4's are hard enough to come by these days - but a 12x12 ??   Boggle !!
>
> 12x12's would make a great catapult frame though. :)


oh god... here he goes...  expect plans soon folks.


Incidentally, a 4x2 here in the UK is a very nominal size. It's become a
name for what you merrycans would think of as framing timber. It's
certainly smaller than 2"x4".

The same is true with sheets of plywood. Although the field sizes might be
about right (8'x4' for example) the thickness is never too accurate. I
seem to recall vendors of router bits supplying odd sized cutters for
making rebates to take plywood.

One day - I'll do some woodwork again...  one day ...

Looks like I'm getting a Typhoon cockpit to play with soon so my
days/nights/weekends are going to be sim filled for a while.

Roy.


--

Roy Coates.
Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter.
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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Thu Apr 30 08:43:17 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 08:43:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] DONE!
In-Reply-To: <359668679-1241104875-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-218466772-@bxe1113.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0904301659480.23719-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk><alpine.LFD.1.10.0904300809320.4519@grumble.deltasoft.com>
	<359668679-1241104875-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-218466772-@bxe1113.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0904300823540.4625@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Thu, 30 Apr 2009, raysot at comcast.net wrote:

> I'm seeing very little signs of life from other sim markets as well. 
> We're pulling the plug on a few endeavors in search of greener pastures.
>
>

One thing that really galls me is having forum threads either locked or 
deleted based on un-published "no commercial ads" policies.

The worst of the offenders IMO is mycockpit.org.  You can post commercial 
ads alright, but only after spending the equivalent of a mortgage payment 
on a banner ad.

The guy that runs the place locked the thread saying "gee, I didn't know 
he was charging for the manual and the plans", then refuses to fix his 
post - I'm _NOT_ charging for the manual and that is mentioned explicitly.

There's one admin there that's a really nice guy and other one appears to 
be a spastic passive-aggressive prat.  The joys of the internet. *sigh*

I'm beginning to understand what turned Leo into such a bitter jerk 
though.

g.


-- 
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http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

OpenQM - A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://gpl.openqm.com - Get it _today_!

From geneb at deltasoft.com  Thu Apr 30 08:47:15 2009
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 08:47:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] DONE!
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0904301723470.23719-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0904301723470.23719-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0904300843510.4625@grumble.deltasoft.com>

>>> 4x4's are hard enough to come by these days - but a 12x12 ??   Boggle !!
>>
>> 12x12's would make a great catapult frame though. :)
>
>
> oh god... here he goes...  expect plans soon folks.
>
Nah.  Gotta get the F-15 done first.

>
> Incidentally, a 4x2 here in the UK is a very nominal size. It's become a
> name for what you merrycans would think of as framing timber. It's
> certainly smaller than 2"x4".
>
That's not surprising.  I think a 2x4 here is actually 3.5x1.5.

> The same is true with sheets of plywood. Although the field sizes might be
> about right (8'x4' for example) the thickness is never too accurate. I
> seem to recall vendors of router bits supplying odd sized cutters for
> making rebates to take plywood.
>
I'm not parsing "rebates to take plywood".  Can you retry in American 
English instead of English English? :)

> One day - I'll do some woodwork again...  one day ...
>
Good for you.  The woodshop finally has all the walls up thanks to Rob. 
Not long now before we'll be able to move all the sawdust generators out 
of the shop.

> Looks like I'm getting a Typhoon cockpit to play with soon so my
> days/nights/weekends are going to be sim filled for a while.

Cool.  You know the mantra, "Pics! Pics!" :)

g.
-- 
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

OpenQM - A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://gpl.openqm.com - Get it _today_!

From raysot at comcast.net  Thu Apr 30 09:31:50 2009
From: raysot at comcast.net (raysot at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 16:31:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [simpits-tech] DONE!
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0904300823540.4625@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <1646665892.2629091241109110519.JavaMail.root@sz0018a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>



<rant> 

I agree and I'm not entirely certain as to when that "...became a bad thing". In the Avsim/Microwings heyday, informal advertising was allowed.. even encouraged but then folks discovered that eyeballs could translate into ad revenue. 



Certain sites nowadays are so strict about forum content that the threads & discussions are really lifeless. God forbid you post something in the wrong forum! 

</rant> 



Well.. maybe if you have some time you can help me out with my F16! (Or point me to a carcass :-) 











----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gene Buckle" <geneb at deltasoft.com> 
To: raysot at comcast.net, "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" <simpits-tech at simpits.org> 
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 8:43:17 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] DONE! 

On Thu, 30 Apr 2009, raysot at comcast.net wrote: 

> I'm seeing very little signs of life from other sim markets as well. 
> We're pulling the plug on a few endeavors in search of greener pastures. 
> 
> 

One thing that really galls me is having forum threads either locked or 
deleted based on un-published "no commercial ads" policies. 

The worst of the offenders IMO is mycockpit.org. ?You can post commercial 
ads alright, but only after spending the equivalent of a mortgage payment 
on a banner ad. 

The guy that runs the place locked the thread saying "gee, I didn't know 
he was charging for the manual and the plans", then refuses to fix his 
post - I'm _NOT_ charging for the manual and that is mentioned explicitly. 

There's one admin there that's a really nice guy and other one appears to 
be a spastic passive-aggressive prat. ?The joys of the internet. *sigh* 

I'm beginning to understand what turned Leo into such a bitter jerk 
though. 

g. 


-- 
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. 

OpenQM - A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. 
http://gpl.openqm.com - Get it _today_! 
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From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:16:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] DONE!
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On Thu, 30 Apr 2009, raysot at comcast.net wrote:

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>
> <rant>
>
> I agree and I'm not entirely certain as to when that "...became a bad 
> thing". In the Avsim/Microwings heyday, informal advertising was 
> allowed.. even encouraged but then folks discovered that eyeballs could 
> translate into ad revenue.
>
Funny thing is, Avsim didn't do a thing about the post I put there...

> Certain sites nowadays are so strict about forum content that the 
> threads & discussions are really lifeless. God forbid you post something 
> in the wrong forum!
>
Not one *I* run. :)

>
> Well.. maybe if you have some time you can help me out with my F16! (Or 
> point me to a carcass :-)

You're just a bit north of me aren't you Ray?  You should stop by and 
check out the Box of Nonsense sometime. :)

g.

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