From phoenixcomm at gmail.com Sat Nov 1 22:23:23 2008 From: phoenixcomm at gmail.com (Cris Harrison) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 01:23:23 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] New wiki started Message-ID: Ok folks, hate me or what ever.. I got fed up looking for tech tips, ideas, hotos, etc for our 'hobby', 'life-style' or what ever you want to call it...walk into a room, or a garage, and find nose's from old moldy, bi-planes, to modern multi-engine airliner, to hey I hear, one of you is mocking up thhhhhe stuttle,,,,, and every thing in between! So with all the wiki space out there I took it apon myself, magic wand time please, and started ..... http://simpits.wetpaint.com I started it with the cicuit breakers that I have under computer control,,, cool .... Later and remember YOU CAN WALK AWAY FROM SIMULATOR CRASH!!! Cris Harrison www.phoenixcomm.net/~phnx2000/sim www.phoenixaerospace.us www.avi-tronix.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081101/a6e5f012/attachment.html From phoenixcomm at gmail.com Sat Nov 1 22:31:02 2008 From: phoenixcomm at gmail.com (Cris Harrison) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 01:31:02 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] OH BTW Message-ID: I have put up for sale on ebay 2 Page aerospace Fire Switches: 1. Right 2. APU these switches are used on 757, 767 (black face) there is also the 757 fire panel with buttons, lites etc. (no switches) ebay price is $349.00 each, first person to say $600.00 for the pair (right, apu) gets them bank wire pefered! Cris Harrison www.phoenixcomm.net/~phnx2000/sim www.phoenixaerospace.us BTW remember http://simpits.wetpaint.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081101/33f4362b/attachment.html From crease-guard at sbcglobal.net Sun Nov 2 20:09:11 2008 From: crease-guard at sbcglobal.net (Joseph Fagner) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 22:09:11 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Circuit Breakers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0FCB7EDC9BCE4269978EB1B60A2B1C95@flightsystems> Believe it or not, I'm actually at a point now where I can start running power to the sim. I seem to recall several years ago this topic but don't recall the details. I have several aircraft type circuit breakers (DC rated) I'd like to use for the DC voltages in the pit (I'll leave the AC stuff to my house circuits). Does anyone know if these can safely be used in this type of application? Some of you guys with Heavies pits, I know ya'll use circuit breakers, what configurations are folks using, if any? Thanks Jay Show me a man who cannot be bothered to do the little things, and I will show you a man who cannot be trusted to do the big ones. --Lawrence Bell, Founder Bell Hellicopter -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081102/9524c44f/attachment.html From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Mon Nov 3 00:43:23 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 08:43:23 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Circuit Breakers In-Reply-To: <0FCB7EDC9BCE4269978EB1B60A2B1C95@flightsystems> Message-ID: On Sun, 2 Nov 2008, Joseph Fagner wrote: > Believe it or not, I'm actually at a point now where I can start running > power to the sim. I seem to recall several years ago this topic but don't > recall the details. I have several aircraft type circuit breakers (DC > rated) I'd like to use for the DC voltages in the pit (I'll leave the AC > stuff to my house circuits). Does anyone know if these can safely be used > in this type of application? Some of you guys with Heavies pits, I know > ya'll use circuit breakers, what configurations are folks using, if any? > I was warned off these things Jay. Apparently they are quite slow to respond and so don't offer the best protection. Roy. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From crease-guard at sbcglobal.net Sun Nov 2 23:56:09 2008 From: crease-guard at sbcglobal.net (Joseph Fagner) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 01:56:09 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Circuit Breakers In-Reply-To: References: <0FCB7EDC9BCE4269978EB1B60A2B1C95@flightsystems> Message-ID: Since posting this, I've read up on them and you are correct, they are slow blow breakers as many components in the aircraft have a pretty good inductive load and tend to need spikey type currents to power up before stabilizing (at least on the AC side) their load. I think I will look at an automotive type fuse box for my application and see how that might pan out. Jay Show me a man who cannot be bothered to do the little things, and I will show you a man who cannot be trusted to do the big ones. --Lawrence Bell, Founder Bell Hellicopter -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Roy Coates Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 2:43 AM To: Simulator Cockpit tech list Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Circuit Breakers On Sun, 2 Nov 2008, Joseph Fagner wrote: > Believe it or not, I'm actually at a point now where I can start running > power to the sim. I seem to recall several years ago this topic but don't > recall the details. I have several aircraft type circuit breakers (DC > rated) I'd like to use for the DC voltages in the pit (I'll leave the AC > stuff to my house circuits). Does anyone know if these can safely be used > in this type of application? Some of you guys with Heavies pits, I know > ya'll use circuit breakers, what configurations are folks using, if any? > I was warned off these things Jay. Apparently they are quite slow to respond and so don't offer the best protection. Roy. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From echotech1452 at gmail.com Mon Nov 3 06:30:34 2008 From: echotech1452 at gmail.com (delor lauchang) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 09:30:34 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] windscreen frame... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: start with selecting canopy type at http://toddscanopies.com/ this company in florida makes different canopies at very reasonable price. On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Gene Buckle wrote: > > I spent some time last night working on a windscreen for the cockpit > plans. > > http://www.simpits.org/~geneb/windscreen_test.jpg > > The form of the windscreen isn't final and all the components for it are > not present. > > It's current position makes it flush with the existing canopy rails. > > This would result in the instrument panel being pushed 10" forward of its > current location, making it unreachable without leaning pretty far > forward. > > There are two ways to handle this - the first is to just leave it alone > and not have a windscreen or articulated canopy. > > The second option is to move the windscreen frame aft to it's "proper" > position. This would reduce the cockpit opening length from 35" to about > 27. > > The question I have for you guys - would you rather have a windscreen & > articulated canopy or a huge hole to hop in & out of? > > g. > > > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081103/e76aec3f/attachment.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Nov 3 06:54:02 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 06:54:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] windscreen frame... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, 3 Nov 2008, delor lauchang wrote: > start with selecting canopy type at http://toddscanopies.com/ this company > in florida makes different canopies at very reasonable price. > I bet they do. However, this isn't for a real airplane. The cost of a "real" custom built aircraft canopy would exceed the entire raw material cost of the simulator cockpit itself by several orders of magnitude. For example, the prototype I'm working on right now is made from two sheets of 1/2", 4x8 OSB. Total material cost: $14. I'm working up a couple of different methods of getting a windscreen & canopy frame designs done that won't impact the current design. I've nearly got the third version of the flight control gimbal done - it's actually easier to build than the prior two designs and doesn't require any custom acrylic parts - everything can be had in the electrical parts aisle at your local home center. http://www.simpits.org/~geneb/new_gimbal2.jpg The above picture shows how it goes together. The original idea came from a nice gent named Jentron on the #flightgear IRC channel. The birch ply parts were cut on the bot, but can be easily cut out using a jig saw, scroll saw or a band saw. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From phoenixcomm at gmail.com Mon Nov 3 08:27:06 2008 From: phoenixcomm at gmail.com (Cris Harrison) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 11:27:06 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Circuit Breakers In-Reply-To: <0FCB7EDC9BCE4269978EB1B60A2B1C95@flightsystems> References: <0FCB7EDC9BCE4269978EB1B60A2B1C95@flightsystems> Message-ID: RE: Joseph Fanger joe you can use real CB's but and them blow them remotely with a SCR (see simptis.wetpaint.com), the CB carrys the load or drive relays (bah), and dont worry about spikes ALL electro mechanical devices spike but true aircraft brakers are very fast much faster than your house and, i figure if it good enjouh for the AF etc then its good enjough for me..... Cris Harrison www.phoenixcomm.net/~phnx2000/sim www.phoenixaerospace.us On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 11:09 PM, Joseph Fagner wrote: > Believe it or not, I'm actually at a point now where I can start running > power to the sim. I seem to recall several years ago this topic but don't > recall the details. I have several aircraft type circuit breakers (DC > rated) I'd like to use for the DC voltages in the pit (I'll leave the AC > stuff to my house circuits). Does anyone know if these can safely be used > in this type of application? Some of you guys with Heavies pits, I know > ya'll use circuit breakers, what configurations are folks using, if any? > > > > Thanks > > Jay > > > > *Show me a man who cannot be bothered to do the little things, and I will > show you a man who cannot be trusted to do the big ones.* > > *--Lawrence Bell, Founder Bell Hellicopter* > > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081103/dac5286e/attachment.html From echotech1452 at gmail.com Mon Nov 3 09:21:55 2008 From: echotech1452 at gmail.com (delor lauchang) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:21:55 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] windscreen frame... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: i know a guy who built his using 1"square pvc pipes for the base and 1/2" round pipes for the canopy frames, used a pvc welder and some thin acrylic film to cover the canopy and regular hinges. cost maybe around $50.00 coming from home depot or lowes. its for a corsair like windscreen. On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 9:54 AM, Gene Buckle wrote: > On Mon, 3 Nov 2008, delor lauchang wrote: > > > start with selecting canopy type at http://toddscanopies.com/ this > company > > in florida makes different canopies at very reasonable price. > > > > I bet they do. However, this isn't for a real airplane. The cost of a > "real" custom built aircraft canopy would exceed the entire raw material > cost of the simulator cockpit itself by several orders of magnitude. > > For example, the prototype I'm working on right now is made from two > sheets of 1/2", 4x8 OSB. Total material cost: $14. > > I'm working up a couple of different methods of getting a windscreen & > canopy frame designs done that won't impact the current design. > > I've nearly got the third version of the flight control gimbal done - it's > actually easier to build than the prior two designs and doesn't require > any custom acrylic parts - everything can be had in the electrical parts > aisle at your local home center. > > http://www.simpits.org/~geneb/new_gimbal2.jpg > > The above picture shows how it goes together. The original idea came from > a nice gent named Jentron on the #flightgear IRC channel. > > The birch ply parts were cut on the bot, but can be easily cut out using a > jig saw, scroll saw or a band saw. > > g. > > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081103/c32eeb08/attachment.html From echotech1452 at gmail.com Mon Nov 3 09:31:59 2008 From: echotech1452 at gmail.com (delor lauchang) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:31:59 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] windscreen frame... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: another idea making site, http://www.acesim.com/ready.html On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 12:21 PM, delor lauchang wrote: > i know a guy who built his using 1"square pvc pipes for the base and 1/2" > round pipes for the canopy frames, used a pvc welder and some thin acrylic > film to cover the canopy and regular hinges. cost maybe around $50.00 coming > from home depot or lowes. its for a corsair like windscreen. > > > On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 9:54 AM, Gene Buckle wrote: > >> On Mon, 3 Nov 2008, delor lauchang wrote: >> >> > start with selecting canopy type at http://toddscanopies.com/ this >> company >> > in florida makes different canopies at very reasonable price. >> > >> >> I bet they do. However, this isn't for a real airplane. The cost of a >> "real" custom built aircraft canopy would exceed the entire raw material >> cost of the simulator cockpit itself by several orders of magnitude. >> >> For example, the prototype I'm working on right now is made from two >> sheets of 1/2", 4x8 OSB. Total material cost: $14. >> >> I'm working up a couple of different methods of getting a windscreen & >> canopy frame designs done that won't impact the current design. >> >> I've nearly got the third version of the flight control gimbal done - it's >> actually easier to build than the prior two designs and doesn't require >> any custom acrylic parts - everything can be had in the electrical parts >> aisle at your local home center. >> >> http://www.simpits.org/~geneb/new_gimbal2.jpg >> >> The above picture shows how it goes together. The original idea came from >> a nice gent named Jentron on the #flightgear IRC channel. >> >> The birch ply parts were cut on the bot, but can be easily cut out using a >> jig saw, scroll saw or a band saw. >> >> g. >> >> >> -- >> Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 >> http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. >> _______________________________________________ >> Simpits-tech mailing list >> Simpits-tech at simpits.org >> http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >> To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above >> page. Thanks! >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081103/d966d65d/attachment-0001.html From crease-guard at sbcglobal.net Mon Nov 3 09:49:12 2008 From: crease-guard at sbcglobal.net (Joseph Fagner) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 11:49:12 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Circuit Breakers In-Reply-To: References: <0FCB7EDC9BCE4269978EB1B60A2B1C95@flightsystems> Message-ID: Don't really want to blow them remotely, although that a pretty slick idea with the SCR, I just wanted to use them as a functioning circuit breaker to protect electronics and what not. You say they are fast but I have read that they are slow blow type breakers, which is it? Jay Show me a man who cannot be bothered to do the little things, and I will show you a man who cannot be trusted to do the big ones. --Lawrence Bell, Founder Bell Hellicopter _____ From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Cris Harrison Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 10:27 AM To: Simulator Cockpit tech list Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Circuit Breakers RE: Joseph Fanger joe you can use real CB's but and them blow them remotely with a SCR (see simptis.wetpaint.com), the CB carrys the load or drive relays (bah), and dont worry about spikes ALL electro mechanical devices spike but true aircraft brakers are very fast much faster than your house and, i figure if it good enjouh for the AF etc then its good enjough for me..... Cris Harrison www.phoenixcomm.net/~phnx2000/sim www.phoenixaerospace.us On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 11:09 PM, Joseph Fagner wrote: Believe it or not, I'm actually at a point now where I can start running power to the sim. I seem to recall several years ago this topic but don't recall the details. I have several aircraft type circuit breakers (DC rated) I'd like to use for the DC voltages in the pit (I'll leave the AC stuff to my house circuits). Does anyone know if these can safely be used in this type of application? Some of you guys with Heavies pits, I know ya'll use circuit breakers, what configurations are folks using, if any? Thanks Jay Show me a man who cannot be bothered to do the little things, and I will show you a man who cannot be trusted to do the big ones. --Lawrence Bell, Founder Bell Hellicopter _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081103/8c0348c2/attachment.html From crease-guard at sbcglobal.net Mon Nov 3 09:49:01 2008 From: crease-guard at sbcglobal.net (Joseph Fagner) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 11:49:01 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Circuit Breakers In-Reply-To: References: <0FCB7EDC9BCE4269978EB1B60A2B1C95@flightsystems> Message-ID: <2E802DF997EF4C6EA4E6D794A9C41144@flightsystems> Don't really want to blow them remotely, although that a pretty slick idea with the SCR, I just wanted to use them as a functioning circuit breaker to protect electronics and what not. You say they are fast but I have read that they are slow blow type breakers, which is it? Jay Show me a man who cannot be bothered to do the little things, and I will show you a man who cannot be trusted to do the big ones. --Lawrence Bell, Founder Bell Hellicopter _____ From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Cris Harrison Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 10:27 AM To: Simulator Cockpit tech list Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Circuit Breakers RE: Joseph Fanger joe you can use real CB's but and them blow them remotely with a SCR (see simptis.wetpaint.com), the CB carrys the load or drive relays (bah), and dont worry about spikes ALL electro mechanical devices spike but true aircraft brakers are very fast much faster than your house and, i figure if it good enjouh for the AF etc then its good enjough for me..... Cris Harrison www.phoenixcomm.net/~phnx2000/sim www.phoenixaerospace.us On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 11:09 PM, Joseph Fagner wrote: Believe it or not, I'm actually at a point now where I can start running power to the sim. I seem to recall several years ago this topic but don't recall the details. I have several aircraft type circuit breakers (DC rated) I'd like to use for the DC voltages in the pit (I'll leave the AC stuff to my house circuits). Does anyone know if these can safely be used in this type of application? Some of you guys with Heavies pits, I know ya'll use circuit breakers, what configurations are folks using, if any? Thanks Jay Show me a man who cannot be bothered to do the little things, and I will show you a man who cannot be trusted to do the big ones. --Lawrence Bell, Founder Bell Hellicopter _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081103/05d39ad5/attachment.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Nov 3 11:58:25 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 11:58:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Finally! Message-ID: I found someone crazier than I am! http://gizmodo.com/5074207/guy-builds-f+35-fighter-jet-on-his-own g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From rd at ns.sympatico.ca Mon Nov 3 12:06:49 2008 From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:06:49 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] Finally! References: Message-ID: <003d01c93def$b517e550$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> Gene, I think you are right. Kinda cool though just the same. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Buckle" To: Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 3:58 PM Subject: [simpits-tech] Finally! >I found someone crazier than I am! > > http://gizmodo.com/5074207/guy-builds-f+35-fighter-jet-on-his-own > > g. > > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Nov 3 12:58:58 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:58:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Finally! In-Reply-To: <003d01c93def$b517e550$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> References: <003d01c93def$b517e550$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> Message-ID: > Gene, > > I think you are right. > > Kinda cool though just the same. > > Rick > No doubt. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From marcquintin at hotmail.com Mon Nov 3 13:42:00 2008 From: marcquintin at hotmail.com (Marc Quintin) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:42:00 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Finally! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Gene, you're not crazy at all, just insane :) Marc..> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 11:58:25 -0800> From: geneb at deltasoft.com> To: simpits-tech at simpits.org> Subject: [simpits-tech] Finally!> > I found someone crazier than I am!> > http://gizmodo.com/5074207/guy-builds-f+35-fighter-jet-on-his-own> > g.> > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007> http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.> _______________________________________________> Simpits-tech mailing list> Simpits-tech at simpits.org> http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech> To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! _________________________________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081103/2a5280e3/attachment.html From crease-guard at sbcglobal.net Mon Nov 3 14:08:46 2008 From: crease-guard at sbcglobal.net (Joseph Fagner) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:08:46 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Finally! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm not sure about crazier THAN...crazy as yes, crazier than...no, not a guy who has his own fuselage section and then built a purpose shop around it with mills and bots and freakin laser beams. Jay Show me a man who cannot be bothered to do the little things, and I will show you a man who cannot be trusted to do the big ones. --Lawrence Bell, Founder Bell Hellicopter -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Gene Buckle Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 1:58 PM To: simpits-tech at simpits.org Subject: [simpits-tech] Finally! I found someone crazier than I am! http://gizmodo.com/5074207/guy-builds-f+35-fighter-jet-on-his-own g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Nov 3 14:13:18 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:13:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Finally! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, 3 Nov 2008, Joseph Fagner wrote: > I'm not sure about crazier THAN...crazy as yes, crazier than...no, not a guy > who has his own fuselage section and then built a purpose shop around it > with mills and bots and freakin laser beams. > Ok. Point. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From crease-guard at sbcglobal.net Mon Nov 3 14:22:32 2008 From: crease-guard at sbcglobal.net (Joseph Fagner) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:22:32 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Finally! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <31062F5DEC11476EA0A547A93A3278F0@flightsystems> I don't have much room to talk though, have you guys seen the creation I have in my game room? Not terribly different. Jay Show me a man who cannot be bothered to do the little things, and I will show you a man who cannot be trusted to do the big ones. --Lawrence Bell, Founder Bell Hellicopter -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Gene Buckle Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 4:13 PM To: Simulator Cockpit tech list Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Finally! On Mon, 3 Nov 2008, Joseph Fagner wrote: > I'm not sure about crazier THAN...crazy as yes, crazier than...no, not a guy > who has his own fuselage section and then built a purpose shop around it > with mills and bots and freakin laser beams. > Ok. Point. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From allendc at qwest.net Mon Nov 3 14:56:02 2008 From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:56:02 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] Finally! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20081103225607.49E55621C08@mpls-qmqp-03.inet.qwest.net> I want this guy flying my plane http://www.chilloutzone.de/files/08102703.html David www.737FlightSim.com From crease-guard at sbcglobal.net Mon Nov 3 15:06:18 2008 From: crease-guard at sbcglobal.net (Joseph Fagner) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 17:06:18 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Finally! In-Reply-To: <20081103225607.49E55621C08@mpls-qmqp-03.inet.qwest.net> References: <20081103225607.49E55621C08@mpls-qmqp-03.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: <21416FA4BD674518A55E2530034B82FF@flightsystems> HOLY Jesus...are shitin me?!? That was real? Looked like a damn Bugs Bunny cartoon. Granted, that was some good flyin, but there was a tremendous amount of good fortune that came his way...justifiably so given the friggin wing fell off. Jay Show me a man who cannot be bothered to do the little things, and I will show you a man who cannot be trusted to do the big ones. --Lawrence Bell, Founder Bell Hellicopter -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of David C. Allen Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 4:56 PM To: Simulator Cockpit tech list Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Finally! I want this guy flying my plane http://www.chilloutzone.de/files/08102703.html David www.737FlightSim.com _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Nov 3 15:13:38 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 15:13:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Finally! In-Reply-To: <21416FA4BD674518A55E2530034B82FF@flightsystems> References: <20081103225607.49E55621C08@mpls-qmqp-03.inet.qwest.net> <21416FA4BD674518A55E2530034B82FF@flightsystems> Message-ID: On Mon, 3 Nov 2008, Joseph Fagner wrote: > HOLY Jesus...are shitin me?!? That was real? Looked like a damn Bugs Bunny > cartoon. > Er... no. Wasn't real - at least wasn't a full size airplane. :) This is what it looks like when it happens for real with a 33% model: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaXMrFh3n7M g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From allendc at qwest.net Mon Nov 3 15:27:33 2008 From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:27:33 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] Finally! In-Reply-To: <20081103225607.49E55621C08@mpls-qmqp-03.inet.qwest.net> References: <20081103225607.49E55621C08@mpls-qmqp-03.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: <20081103232736.24C2653BDC6@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net> http://www.reggiepaulk.com/2008/10/killathrill-generates-huge-buzz-with.html David www.737FlightSim.com At 03:56 PM 11/3/2008 -0700, you wrote: >I want this guy flying my plane > >http://www.chilloutzone.de/files/08102703.html > >David >www.737FlightSim.com > >_______________________________________________ >Simpits-tech mailing list >Simpits-tech at simpits.org >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the >above page. Thanks! > > >__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >signature database 3579 (20081103) __________ > >The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > >http://www.eset.com From crease-guard at sbcglobal.net Mon Nov 3 16:25:12 2008 From: crease-guard at sbcglobal.net (Joseph Fagner) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 18:25:12 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Finally! In-Reply-To: References: <20081103225607.49E55621C08@mpls-qmqp-03.inet.qwest.net><21416FA4BD674518A55E2530034B82FF@flightsystems> Message-ID: God, I can't believe I fell for that. Jay Show me a man who cannot be bothered to do the little things, and I will show you a man who cannot be trusted to do the big ones. --Lawrence Bell, Founder Bell Hellicopter -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Gene Buckle Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 5:14 PM To: Simulator Cockpit tech list Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Finally! On Mon, 3 Nov 2008, Joseph Fagner wrote: > HOLY Jesus...are shitin me?!? That was real? Looked like a damn Bugs Bunny > cartoon. > Er... no. Wasn't real - at least wasn't a full size airplane. :) This is what it looks like when it happens for real with a 33% model: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaXMrFh3n7M g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From rhommel at mad.scientist.com Mon Nov 3 19:50:30 2008 From: rhommel at mad.scientist.com (Rob Hommel) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 22:50:30 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Finally! Message-ID: <20081104035030.4D9231CE8FC@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> I'm not sure about crazier THAN...crazy as yes, crazier than...no, not a guy who has his own fuselage section and then built a purpose shop around it with mills and bots and freakin laser beams. uhh...about that laser beam thing, it is entirely untrue about Gene trying to capture the neighbors chickens to make them wear hats with lasers attached. He simply was returning the chickens to the neighbors yard. rh -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com From timothyboldt at comcast.net Mon Nov 3 20:36:56 2008 From: timothyboldt at comcast.net (Timothy James Boldt) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 23:36:56 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Circuit Breakers In-Reply-To: <2E802DF997EF4C6EA4E6D794A9C41144@flightsystems> Message-ID: <4FA7C9F28EEC45578C7644BADCBC0155@office> Jay - If you want to accurately replicate the panel but still have adequate circuit protection, you could just strap an inline fuse protector to one leg of the C/B. That way, if the C/B doesn't blow the fuse will. Plus, you can still pop the C/B to isolate the buss. Tim -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Fagner Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 12:49 PM To: 'Simulator Cockpit tech list' Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Circuit Breakers Don't really want to blow them remotely, although that a pretty slick idea with the SCR, I just wanted to use them as a functioning circuit breaker to protect electronics and what not. You say they are fast but I have read that they are slow blow type breakers, which is it? Jay Show me a man who cannot be bothered to do the little things, and I will show you a man who cannot be trusted to do the big ones. --Lawrence Bell, Founder Bell Hellicopter _____ From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Cris Harrison Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 10:27 AM To: Simulator Cockpit tech list Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Circuit Breakers RE: Joseph Fanger joe you can use real CB's but and them blow them remotely with a SCR (see simptis.wetpaint.com), the CB carrys the load or drive relays (bah), and dont worry about spikes ALL electro mechanical devices spike but true aircraft brakers are very fast much faster than your house and, i figure if it good enjouh for the AF etc then its good enjough for me..... Cris Harrison www.phoenixcomm.net/~phnx2000/sim www.phoenixaerospace.us On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 11:09 PM, Joseph Fagner wrote: Believe it or not, I'm actually at a point now where I can start running power to the sim. I seem to recall several years ago this topic but don't recall the details. I have several aircraft type circuit breakers (DC rated) I'd like to use for the DC voltages in the pit (I'll leave the AC stuff to my house circuits). Does anyone know if these can safely be used in this type of application? Some of you guys with Heavies pits, I know ya'll use circuit breakers, what configurations are folks using, if any? Thanks Jay Show me a man who cannot be bothered to do the little things, and I will show you a man who cannot be trusted to do the big ones. --Lawrence Bell, Founder Bell Hellicopter _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1764 - Release Date: 11/3/2008 7:46 AM -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081103/817d6829/attachment.html From timothyboldt at comcast.net Mon Nov 3 20:45:03 2008 From: timothyboldt at comcast.net (Timothy James Boldt) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 23:45:03 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Circuit Breakers In-Reply-To: <4FA7C9F28EEC45578C7644BADCBC0155@office> Message-ID: Also, you would be able to use any C/B you wanted. Let's say the aircraft panel would normally have a 20a C/B on a certain buss. But you only have a 3a circuit, in the pit, on that circuit. You use a 20a C/B on the faceplate and a 3a fuse behind it, in the fuse holder. It looks correct and it blows, when it's needed. Tim -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Timothy James Boldt Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 11:37 PM To: 'Simulator Cockpit tech list' Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Circuit Breakers Jay - If you want to accurately replicate the panel but still have adequate circuit protection, you could just strap an inline fuse protector to one leg of the C/B. That way, if the C/B doesn't blow the fuse will. Plus, you can still pop the C/B to isolate the buss. Tim -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Fagner Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 12:49 PM To: 'Simulator Cockpit tech list' Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Circuit Breakers Don't really want to blow them remotely, although that a pretty slick idea with the SCR, I just wanted to use them as a functioning circuit breaker to protect electronics and what not. You say they are fast but I have read that they are slow blow type breakers, which is it? Jay Show me a man who cannot be bothered to do the little things, and I will show you a man who cannot be trusted to do the big ones. --Lawrence Bell, Founder Bell Hellicopter _____ From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Cris Harrison Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 10:27 AM To: Simulator Cockpit tech list Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Circuit Breakers RE: Joseph Fanger joe you can use real CB's but and them blow them remotely with a SCR (see simptis.wetpaint.com), the CB carrys the load or drive relays (bah), and dont worry about spikes ALL electro mechanical devices spike but true aircraft brakers are very fast much faster than your house and, i figure if it good enjouh for the AF etc then its good enjough for me..... Cris Harrison www.phoenixcomm.net/~phnx2000/sim www.phoenixaerospace.us On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 11:09 PM, Joseph Fagner wrote: Believe it or not, I'm actually at a point now where I can start running power to the sim. I seem to recall several years ago this topic but don't recall the details. I have several aircraft type circuit breakers (DC rated) I'd like to use for the DC voltages in the pit (I'll leave the AC stuff to my house circuits). Does anyone know if these can safely be used in this type of application? Some of you guys with Heavies pits, I know ya'll use circuit breakers, what configurations are folks using, if any? Thanks Jay Show me a man who cannot be bothered to do the little things, and I will show you a man who cannot be trusted to do the big ones. --Lawrence Bell, Founder Bell Hellicopter _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1764 - Release Date: 11/3/2008 7:46 AM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1764 - Release Date: 11/3/2008 7:46 AM -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081103/2305588d/attachment-0001.html From crease-guard at sbcglobal.net Mon Nov 3 22:07:18 2008 From: crease-guard at sbcglobal.net (Joseph Fagner) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 00:07:18 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Circuit Breakers In-Reply-To: References: <4FA7C9F28EEC45578C7644BADCBC0155@office> Message-ID: Now that's a great idea. Thanks Jay Show me a man who cannot be bothered to do the little things, and I will show you a man who cannot be trusted to do the big ones. --Lawrence Bell, Founder Bell Hellicopter _____ From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Timothy James Boldt Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 10:45 PM To: 'Simulator Cockpit tech list' Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Circuit Breakers Also, you would be able to use any C/B you wanted. Let's say the aircraft panel would normally have a 20a C/B on a certain buss. But you only have a 3a circuit, in the pit, on that circuit. You use a 20a C/B on the faceplate and a 3a fuse behind it, in the fuse holder. It looks correct and it blows, when it's needed. Tim -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Timothy James Boldt Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 11:37 PM To: 'Simulator Cockpit tech list' Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Circuit Breakers Jay - If you want to accurately replicate the panel but still have adequate circuit protection, you could just strap an inline fuse protector to one leg of the C/B. That way, if the C/B doesn't blow the fuse will. Plus, you can still pop the C/B to isolate the buss. Tim -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Fagner Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 12:49 PM To: 'Simulator Cockpit tech list' Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Circuit Breakers Don't really want to blow them remotely, although that a pretty slick idea with the SCR, I just wanted to use them as a functioning circuit breaker to protect electronics and what not. You say they are fast but I have read that they are slow blow type breakers, which is it? Jay Show me a man who cannot be bothered to do the little things, and I will show you a man who cannot be trusted to do the big ones. --Lawrence Bell, Founder Bell Hellicopter _____ From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Cris Harrison Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 10:27 AM To: Simulator Cockpit tech list Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Circuit Breakers RE: Joseph Fanger joe you can use real CB's but and them blow them remotely with a SCR (see simptis.wetpaint.com), the CB carrys the load or drive relays (bah), and dont worry about spikes ALL electro mechanical devices spike but true aircraft brakers are very fast much faster than your house and, i figure if it good enjouh for the AF etc then its good enjough for me..... Cris Harrison www.phoenixcomm.net/~phnx2000/sim www.phoenixaerospace.us On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 11:09 PM, Joseph Fagner wrote: Believe it or not, I'm actually at a point now where I can start running power to the sim. I seem to recall several years ago this topic but don't recall the details. I have several aircraft type circuit breakers (DC rated) I'd like to use for the DC voltages in the pit (I'll leave the AC stuff to my house circuits). Does anyone know if these can safely be used in this type of application? Some of you guys with Heavies pits, I know ya'll use circuit breakers, what configurations are folks using, if any? Thanks Jay Show me a man who cannot be bothered to do the little things, and I will show you a man who cannot be trusted to do the big ones. --Lawrence Bell, Founder Bell Hellicopter _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1764 - Release Date: 11/3/2008 7:46 AM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1764 - Release Date: 11/3/2008 7:46 AM -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081103/a00b1405/attachment.html From bjones at pipecomp.com.au Tue Nov 4 00:41:34 2008 From: bjones at pipecomp.com.au (Ben Jones) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:41:34 +0900 Subject: [simpits-tech] Finally! References: <20081103225607.49E55621C08@mpls-qmqp-03.inet.qwest.net><21416FA4BD674518A55E2530034B82FF@flightsystems> Message-ID: <002801c93e59$24d1a3e0$3c00a8c0@BenLaptop> Yeah looks ok but BOGUS as !!. When the wing comes off the aircraft spins in the wrong direction. Plus his landing roll is too short, I can pull up a Extra 300 pretty short when I need to but not in 30 feet like he does. Sorry Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Fagner" To: "'Simulator Cockpit tech list'" Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Finally! > God, I can't believe I fell for that. > > Jay > > Show me a man who cannot be bothered to do the little things, and I will > show you a man who cannot be trusted to do the big ones. > --Lawrence Bell, Founder Bell Hellicopter > > -----Original Message----- > From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org > [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Gene Buckle > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 5:14 PM > To: Simulator Cockpit tech list > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Finally! > > On Mon, 3 Nov 2008, Joseph Fagner wrote: > >> HOLY Jesus...are shitin me?!? That was real? Looked like a damn Bugs > Bunny >> cartoon. >> > Er... no. Wasn't real - at least wasn't a full size airplane. :) > > This is what it looks like when it happens for real with a 33% model: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaXMrFh3n7M > > g. > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. > Thanks! > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > From bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil Tue Nov 4 11:30:33 2008 From: bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil (Brian Sikkema) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:30:33 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Guide to fuses Message-ID: <6e2e609cea384021bc617a49e7b0304b.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> All this talk about CBs has reminded me of a good site I found a while back with some info on fuses. Thought it might be helpful. http://www.mez.co.uk/fusereplacement.jpg Brian From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Wed Nov 5 08:13:22 2008 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 08:13:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Need a source for synchro senders! Message-ID: <82605.32257.qm@web52011.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Suggestions please!? ? Thx, Justin ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081106/314e15bd/attachment.html From phoenixcomm at gmail.com Thu Nov 6 09:38:58 2008 From: phoenixcomm at gmail.com (Cris Harrison) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 12:38:58 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Guide to fuses In-Reply-To: <6e2e609cea384021bc617a49e7b0304b.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> References: <6e2e609cea384021bc617a49e7b0304b.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> Message-ID: Brian I think you got the LAST WORD in on this subject LOL Cris Harrison www.phoenixcomm.net/~phnx2000/sim www.phoenixaerospace.us www.avi-tronix.com BTW remember that we now hav a Wiki @ simpits.wetpaint.com On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Brian Sikkema wrote: > All this talk about CBs has reminded me of a good site I found a while back > with some info on > fuses. Thought it might be helpful. > > http://www.mez.co.uk/fusereplacement.jpg > > Brian > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081106/08c174d5/attachment.html From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Thu Nov 6 14:57:38 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 22:57:38 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Finally! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 3 Nov 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > I found someone crazier than I am! > > http://gizmodo.com/5074207/guy-builds-f+35-fighter-jet-on-his-own > I'll bet you're related though.... -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Nov 6 14:43:10 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:43:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Finally! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > On Mon, 3 Nov 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >> I found someone crazier than I am! >> >> http://gizmodo.com/5074207/guy-builds-f+35-fighter-jet-on-his-own >> > > > I'll bet you're related though.... > Great minds think alike. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From phoenixcomm at gmail.com Thu Nov 6 18:56:14 2008 From: phoenixcomm at gmail.com (Cris Harrison) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 21:56:14 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Need a source for synchro senders! In-Reply-To: <82605.32257.qm@web52011.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <82605.32257.qm@web52011.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Justin most of the time I get them out of old gear BTW syncro's are Transmitter and Receiver be very careful though make sure they are matched ie.. same freq most likely 400hz or 60hz and the voltages can be all over the place, and thats it... power is on rotor pair, wired in parallel and then wire each 120deg tap to each other . Power it up and turn the Tx and the Rx will follow if you got it right... Tx. R1 - Rx. R1 - Power (AC hot) Tx. R2 - Rx. R2 - Power (AC ret) Tx. S1 - Rx. S1 Tx. S2 - Rx. S2 Tx. S3 - Rx. S3 Cris Harrison www.phoenixcomm.net/~phnx2000/sim www.phoenixaerospace.us and remember the WIKI @ simpits.wetpaint.com On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Justin Messenger wrote: > * *Suggestions please! > > Thx, > Justin > > ** > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081106/76d5cd1b/attachment.html From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Fri Nov 7 03:42:31 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 11:42:31 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Guide to fuses In-Reply-To: <6e2e609cea384021bc617a49e7b0304b.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> Message-ID: On Tue, 4 Nov 2008, Brian Sikkema wrote: > All this talk about CBs has reminded me of a good site I found a while back with some info on > fuses. Thought it might be helpful. > > http://www.mez.co.uk/fusereplacement.jpg > Heh! Nice one Brian :-) -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Fri Nov 7 03:56:36 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 11:56:36 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Finally! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >> I found someone crazier than I am! > >> > >> http://gizmodo.com/5074207/guy-builds-f+35-fighter-jet-on-his-own > > > > > > I'll bet you're related though.... > > > > Great minds think alike. :) > and fools seldom differ. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Nov 7 07:28:51 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 07:28:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Finally! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, 7 Nov 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >>>> I found someone crazier than I am! >>>> >>>> http://gizmodo.com/5074207/guy-builds-f+35-fighter-jet-on-his-own >>> >>> >>> I'll bet you're related though.... >>> >> >> Great minds think alike. :) >> > > > and fools seldom differ. > Pot, Kettle, Black. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From gjbenitez at yahoo.es Fri Nov 7 14:37:57 2008 From: gjbenitez at yahoo.es (Gabriel Benitez) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 22:37:57 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] 747-200 CABIN Message-ID: <545724.51553.qm@web27806.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> !c?,2?(D?(??Xq??4R ?;?M ?R ? 3???9cp?4??9$?$?` !?n?????????m???q?0????!?????,r??m?TD?m???? ,?jb??+??b???j)?)???-y?j?Zr?????M Message-ID: <00b201c94130$46571e80$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> Gabriel, Here's where you can get one. www.flypfc.com There are others. As for what it costs? I hope you got deep pockets. Pick one up for me to while your at it! Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: Gabriel Benitez To: simpits-tech at simpits.org Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 6:37 PM Subject: [simpits-tech] 747-200 CABIN I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHERE I CAN FIND 747-200 CABIN FOR SIMULATOR AND HOW MUCH CAN IT COST. 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URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081107/6eff9446/attachment.html From rd at ns.sympatico.ca Fri Nov 7 15:40:43 2008 From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 19:40:43 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] 747-200 CABIN References: <545724.51553.qm@web27806.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <00b201c94130$46571e80$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> Message-ID: <001001c94132$4043df90$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> Try this one too, but have a tissue ready. http://www.flypfc.com/cativgallery.html ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Davis To: gjbenitez at yahoo.es ; Simulator Cockpit tech list Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] 747-200 CABIN Gabriel, Here's where you can get one. www.flypfc.com There are others. As for what it costs? I hope you got deep pockets. Pick one up for me to while your at it! Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: Gabriel Benitez To: simpits-tech at simpits.org Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 6:37 PM Subject: [simpits-tech] 747-200 CABIN I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHERE I CAN FIND 747-200 CABIN FOR SIMULATOR AND HOW MUCH CAN IT COST. BEST REGARDS Gabriel Benitez ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081107/1b7bc62b/attachment.html From cstemberg at mac.com Fri Nov 7 19:48:15 2008 From: cstemberg at mac.com (Clyde Stemberg) Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 22:48:15 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Starting off Message-ID: <103145085906483747053066892095046169275-Webmail@me.com> Hi, I was wondering if anyone could give me some help as how to start off a sim project. I would like to make a good sized cockpit, maybe using a kingair 350 as my plane. things i would need help on is what to use to start building? i.e lumber, metal etc. second is equipment, radios switchs flight displays and flight instrunments. How to hook them all together. then video projection or the screens to display the flight. Thanks. Best Clyde From rd at ns.sympatico.ca Fri Nov 7 20:04:19 2008 From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 00:04:19 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] Starting off References: <103145085906483747053066892095046169275-Webmail@me.com> Message-ID: <000e01c94157$137ae0b0$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> Clyde, Oh my Lord. Man, the sky is the limit. Depending on the depth of your wallet and your freedom of time, that is a loaded question. How do you start off? Google cockpits, X-Plane, whatever comes to mind. The raft of information is mind boggling. If you actually had the King Air sitting in the back yard, it would be a good start. (kidding - but not kidding) Just ask Gene who owns this site. Rick CYQI ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clyde Stemberg" To: Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 11:48 PM Subject: [simpits-tech] Starting off > Hi, > I was wondering if anyone could give me some help as how to start off a > sim project. I would like to make a good sized cockpit, maybe using a > kingair 350 as my plane. things i would need help on is what to use to > start building? i.e lumber, metal etc. second is equipment, radios switchs > flight displays and flight instrunments. How to hook them all together. > then video projection or the screens to display the flight. Thanks. > Best > Clyde > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! From idekkers at gmail.com Fri Nov 7 22:52:01 2008 From: idekkers at gmail.com (Ido Dekkers) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 08:52:01 +0200 Subject: [simpits-tech] Starting off In-Reply-To: <103145085906483747053066892095046169275-Webmail@me.com> References: <103145085906483747053066892095046169275-Webmail@me.com> Message-ID: <39e5de8d0811072252q109976c2sbe4bc9d1572b986a@mail.gmail.com> OK, you made your first pic - that's a start - you want to do a GA pit and not a fighter. now, you need to choose a Sim - FSX / X-plane / flightgear. now lets see how handy you are - what do you know to do and what tools you have: do you know how to solder electronics? build in wood? alu ? steel ? now choose the hardware to control your pit: if you are handy, the cheapest and the solution that covers the most options is PHCC. but here is a list of all of the options on the PHCC site: http://cockpit.varxec.net/electronics/interface_solutions.html most of them are still available. ok, now for the actual sim hardware: you can find real fuselages on ebay, so chap some less, you can build your own. as for switches - either surplus stores or ebay if you want ones looking like the real ones. if you don't care how it looks - get regular electronics ones. displays is easy - ebay is filled with them and thay are not expensive, and the sims can output the info to them . do mind that when people talk about fast gaming computers, they forget flight sims. there is no other game that can even start to compare to a flight sim in it's hardware demands. get the fastest CPU, at least 4GB of memory, and a the fastes vid card you can get. Ido On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 5:48 AM, Clyde Stemberg wrote: > Hi, > I was wondering if anyone could give me some help as how to start off a sim > project. I would like to make a good sized cockpit, maybe using a kingair > 350 as my plane. things i would need help on is what to use to start > building? i.e lumber, metal etc. second is equipment, radios switchs flight > displays and flight instrunments. How to hook them all together. then video > projection or the screens to display the flight. Thanks. > Best > Clyde > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081107/78ea74b1/attachment.html From rd at ns.sympatico.ca Fri Nov 7 23:08:43 2008 From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 03:08:43 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] Flight Safety International References: <583581.788.qm@web52007.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00d201c94170$d5b855e0$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> You am a lucky dog. Is your boss looking for any new employees? Enjoy ----- Original Message ----- From: Justin Messenger To: simpits-tech at simpits.org Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 2:59 AM Subject: [simpits-tech] Flight Safety International Today we went to Flight Safety and got flight time in the new Hawker 4000 sim! That jet flys like a sports car!! It certainly illustrated what I am missing with no motion base on my sim.. What fun! And it was my boss who took us! The new sims now use electric motion bases rather than hydraulic. 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URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081107/a75ec96d/attachment.html From phoenixcomm at gmail.com Sat Nov 8 18:16:32 2008 From: phoenixcomm at gmail.com (Cris Harrison) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 21:16:32 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] 747-200 CABIN In-Reply-To: <545724.51553.qm@web27806.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <545724.51553.qm@web27806.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Good Luck!! remember that a 7xx takes up a lot of room... do you want to go the real route ie get an old airframe and have at it? If you go this route the shell will cost less than 6months ago as Aluminum prices have taken a tumble you should be able to buy in the bone yard for $1 to $2 bucks a pound.. Ok you just bought it.. Now you got to move it... flat bed trailers cranes at both ends... then where are you going to put it... even if you only buy the flight deck and windows, etc. (not the lower half) thats still quite a bit... ok enjoy it dont crash it.. Cris Harrison www.phoenixcomm.net/~phnx2000/sim 2008/11/7 Gabriel Benitez > I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHERE I CAN FIND 747-200 CABIN FOR SIMULATOR AND HOW > MUCH CAN IT COST. > BEST REGARDS > > Gabriel Benitez > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081108/fc871f06/attachment.html From sander at vpilot.net Sat Nov 8 23:32:26 2008 From: sander at vpilot.net (Sander van der Moolen) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 08:32:26 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] 747-200 CABIN In-Reply-To: <545724.51553.qm@web27806.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Do you also want the flight engineer station with it? If so, the cabin will be even larger. Have a search in Google, I believe there's companies out there that salvages aircraft cockpits and cockpit parts from junkyards. Good luck and if you find anything, I'd love to see some pictures! Cheerio, Sander _____ Van: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] Namens Gabriel Benitez Verzonden: vrijdag 7 november 2008 23:38 Aan: simpits-tech at simpits.org Onderwerp: [simpits-tech] 747-200 CABIN I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHERE I CAN FIND 747-200 CABIN FOR SIMULATOR AND HOW MUCH CAN IT COST. BEST REGARDS Gabriel Benitez -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081108/53ce0e01/attachment.html From catalina299 at gmail.com Sun Nov 9 21:42:28 2008 From: catalina299 at gmail.com (William Segal) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 21:42:28 -0800 Subject: [simpits-tech] 747-200 CABIN In-Reply-To: <00b201c94130$46571e80$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> References: <545724.51553.qm@web27806.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <00b201c94130$46571e80$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> Message-ID: <3a0a6c680811092142y6bd7c65do284e1519069c7f7c@mail.gmail.com> If your looking for a real cockpit of a commercial there is an outfit in West Texas .I think he is about 100 miles East of El Paso. I talked to him once on the phone unfortuneatlyI lost his phone number. He is an aircraft ripper he buys damaged planes including heavies and sells them but all my data was lost . Tell you what you could do find all the salvagers there is a list of them floating around BTW I hope you don't live in a city .Most major cities require an enviornmental impact report before you can bring those home and you need to make it is sans asbestos and anything that could be considered a dangerous chemical . Your talking about an investment off the top of $50,000 to $100,000 for a full cockpit usually (the one I looked at was 13feet wide and the only way to get it shipped was by truck as a ultra wide load)require 10$ per mile including the truck and the authorization for the wide load . I gave up . I could of sold my first born. If you live in Australia probably get it for free .The one I was interested in was DC-10 BTW that was 9 years ago. Cheers Bill I owned some land in Mojave back then and I thought they'd just drop it there unfortuneatly that is LA county bad news On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Rick Davis wrote: > Gabriel, > > Here's where you can get one. > > www.flypfc.com > > There are others. As for what it costs? I hope you got deep pockets. Pick > one up for me to while your at it! > > Rick > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Gabriel Benitez > *To:* simpits-tech at simpits.org > *Sent:* Friday, November 07, 2008 6:37 PM > *Subject:* [simpits-tech] 747-200 CABIN > > I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHERE I CAN FIND 747-200 CABIN FOR SIMULATOR AND > HOW MUCH CAN IT COST. > BEST REGARDS > > Gabriel Benitez > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081109/54370769/attachment-0001.html From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Mon Nov 10 05:44:46 2008 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 05:44:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] 747-200 CABIN In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <818476.4943.qm@web52010.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I moved a 747 flightdeck once with my dad's farm truck. To get around the width issue we cut the cockpit lenght to 14 foot long and put it sideways on the truck. pics are at http://dc8cockpit.catisp.com/index_025.htm ? Justin ? Van: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] Namens Gabriel Benitez Verzonden: vrijdag 7 november 2008 23:38 Aan: simpits-tech at simpits.org Onderwerp: [simpits-tech] 747-200 CABIN ? I?WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHERE I CAN FIND 747-200 CABIN?FOR SIMULATOR AND HOW MUCH CAN IT COST. BEST REGARDS Gabriel Benitez ? If your looking for a real cockpit of a commercial there is an outfit in West Texas .I think he is about 100 miles East of El Paso. I talked to him once on the phone unfortuneatly I lost his phone number. He is an aircraft ripper he buys damaged planes including heavies and sells them but all my data was lost . Tell you what you could do ?find all the salvagers there is a list of them floating around BTW I hope you don't live in a city .Most major cities require an enviornmental impact report before you can bring those home? and you need to make it is sans asbestos and anything that could be considered a dangerous chemical . Your talking about an investment off the top of $50,000 to $100,000 for a full cockpit usually (the one I looked at was 13feet wide and the only way to get it shipped was by truck as a ultra wide load)require 10$ per mile including the truck and the authorization for the wide load . I gave up . I could of sold my first born. If you live in Australia probably get it for free .The one I was interested in was DC-10 BTW that was 9 years ago. Cheers? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081110/58282006/attachment.html From gjbenitez at yahoo.es Mon Nov 10 11:47:07 2008 From: gjbenitez at yahoo.es (Gabriel Benitez) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 19:47:07 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] 747-200 CABIN In-Reply-To: <818476.4943.qm@web52010.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <974733.44451.qm@web27802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Thank you very much for the information. ? Best regards Gabriel Benitez --- El lun, 10/11/08, Justin Messenger escribi?: De: Justin Messenger Asunto: [simpits-tech] 747-200 CABIN Para: simpits-tech at simpits.org Fecha: lunes, 10 noviembre, 2008 2:44 I moved a 747 flightdeck once with my dad's farm truck. To get around the width issue we cut the cockpit lenght to 14 foot long and put it sideways on the truck. pics are at http://dc8cockpit.catisp.com/index_025.htm ? Justin ? Van: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] Namens Gabriel Benitez Verzonden: vrijdag 7 november 2008 23:38 Aan: simpits-tech at simpits.org Onderwerp: [simpits-tech] 747-200 CABIN ? I?WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHERE I CAN FIND 747-200 CABIN?FOR SIMULATOR AND HOW MUCH CAN IT COST. BEST REGARDS Gabriel Benitez ? If your looking for a real cockpit of a commercial there is an outfit in West Texas .I think he is about 100 miles East of El Paso. I talked to him once on the phone unfortuneatly I lost his phone number. He is an aircraft ripper he buys damaged planes including heavies and sells them but all my data was lost . Tell you what you could do ?find all the salvagers there is a list of them floating around BTW I hope you don't live in a city .Most major cities require an enviornmental impact report before you can bring those home? and you need to make it is sans asbestos and anything that could be considered a dangerous chemical . Your talking about an investment off the top of $50,000 to $100,000 for a full cockpit usually (the one I looked at was 13feet wide and the only way to get it shipped was by truck as a ultra wide load)require 10$ per mile including the truck and the authorization for the wide load . I gave up . I could of sold my first born. If you live in Australia probably get it for free .The one I was interested in was DC-10 BTW that was 9 years ago. Cheers? _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081110/f927fc4e/attachment.html From allendc at qwest.net Mon Nov 10 12:13:00 2008 From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 13:13:00 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] 747-200 CABIN In-Reply-To: <974733.44451.qm@web27802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <818476.4943.qm@web52010.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <974733.44451.qm@web27802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20081110201305.45ACD62790F@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net> Mark Thompson has 1 or 2 early 747's flight decks cut and ready to haul. You just need to bring money. Aviation Warehouse - Mark Thompson 20020 El Mirage Airport Road, El Mirage CA Phone 760-388-4215 David www.737flightsim.com From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Mon Nov 10 16:09:05 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 00:09:05 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Starting off In-Reply-To: <103145085906483747053066892095046169275-Webmail@me.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 7 Nov 2008, Clyde Stemberg wrote: > Hi, I was wondering if anyone could give me some help as how to start > off a sim project. I would like to make a good sized cockpit, maybe > using a kingair 350 as my plane. things i would need help on is what to > use to start building? i.e lumber, metal etc. second is equipment, > radios switchs flight displays and flight instrunments. How to hook them > all together. then video projection or the screens to display the > flight. Thanks. Hi Clyde. There are several routes you might take depending on what you are trying to achieve, how much cash/time/space you have, and of course on your skill levels. If you are going to go the easier route and use say a car seat and a screen to display your instruments - those items will dictate many of the simpit dimensions for you. If you are going to use a real aircraft shell (oh boy is that hard!) then the dimensions are set - it's just the interfacing that is hard. Do you just want a simpit for one aircraft or do you want it to be more felxible? There are many toys out there for hooking up your switches, lights and gauges etc - again, your skill levels will determine much of what you choose. For switch inputs I can highly recommend the hagstrom KE72 (www.hagstromelectronics.com) as a very robust and easy interface to use. These guys also do a rotary encoder and potentiometer interface which works with the KE72. Remember, there's a lot of skilled and experienced people on this list and most of them seem fairly tame, house-broken and helpful! Decide what kind of pit you want - and start building! Once you start, the addiction bites and you'll both love and hate every minute of it ! hope this helps some. Roy. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Mon Nov 10 16:59:40 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 00:59:40 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Finally! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 7 Nov 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >>>> I found someone crazier than I am! > >>>> http://gizmodo.com/5074207/guy-builds-f+35-fighter-jet-on-his-own > >>> > >>> I'll bet you're related though.... > >> > >> Great minds think alike. :) > > > > and fools seldom differ. > > Pot, Kettle, Black. :) Very true! Building pits is a painful process, especially when you're "on the clock" but I too am helpless to resist. The current project is killing me - it's fighting me at every step from the basic engineering to suppliers failing to deliver - or going out of business. Not to mention the arctic temperatures in my garage workshop and the late hours required to even work on the damned thing. And I've got another 2 pits to build after this one! Just for fun, in addition to the Bristol Britannia resto project we've got on, we've got one of the two surviving Percival Prince aircraft arriving in a weeks time and I'm in negotiatons to secure us a B-25 too that needs a lot (LOT^lots) of work. I sometimes don't have time to breath, let alone scratch my ass. Roy. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Nov 10 17:41:52 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:41:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Finally! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > The current project is killing me - it's fighting me at every step from > the basic engineering to suppliers failing to deliver - or going out of > business. Not to mention the arctic temperatures in my garage workshop and > the late hours required to even work on the damned thing. And I've got > another 2 pits to build after this one! > I don't know if it'll help or not, but I'm going to be publishing the plans (free) for the pitch & roll axis gimbal I've built. It's easy to build and doesn't require any really fancy tools to build. > Just for fun, in addition to the Bristol Britannia resto project we've got > on, we've got one of the two surviving Percival Prince aircraft arriving > in a weeks time and I'm in negotiatons to secure us a B-25 too that needs > a lot (LOT^lots) of work. > Ahh, that'll be fun. :) Has your wife threatened your life yet? :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Mon Nov 10 17:50:54 2008 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:50:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] hagstromelectronics In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <334411.66979.qm@web52002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> ?? I just received an KE-USB108 and am looking forward to trying it out. Unlike the KE-72, it programs in Windows rather than DOS! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- There are many toys out there for hooking up your switches, lights and gauges etc - again, your skill levels will determine much of what you choose. For switch inputs I can highly recommend the hagstrom KE72 (www.hagstromelectronics.com) as a very robust and easy interface to use. These guys also do a rotary encoder and potentiometer interface which works with the KE72. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081110/55742373/attachment.html From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Tue Nov 11 06:04:25 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 14:04:25 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Finally! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 10 Nov 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > I don't know if it'll help or not, but I'm going to be publishing the > plans (free) for the pitch & roll axis gimbal I've built. It's easy to > build and doesn't require any really fancy tools to build. Problem with this project is that I'm using a mix of real a/c parts (yokes, pedals, throttle-box etc) grafted into a custom made shell. I've had to build the linkages between yokes. > > Just for fun, in addition to the Bristol Britannia resto project we've got > > on, we've got one of the two surviving Percival Prince aircraft arriving > > in a weeks time and I'm in negotiatons to secure us a B-25 too that needs > > a lot (LOT^lots) of work. > > > Ahh, that'll be fun. :) Has your wife threatened your life yet? :) Ah, she might not know about it yet.... -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Tue Nov 11 06:05:27 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 14:05:27 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] hagstromelectronics In-Reply-To: <334411.66979.qm@web52002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 10 Nov 2008, Justin Messenger wrote: > ?? I just received an KE-USB108 and am looking forward to trying it out. > Unlike the KE-72, it programs in Windows rather than DOS! Oooh... that's on my xmas list! ;-) Note that the KE72 is also programmable under windows now and has been for quite some time. Please do let us know how you get on with the 108 Justin ! Roy. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Nov 11 07:11:53 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 07:11:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Finally! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 11 Nov 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > On Mon, 10 Nov 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >> I don't know if it'll help or not, but I'm going to be publishing the >> plans (free) for the pitch & roll axis gimbal I've built. It's easy to >> build and doesn't require any really fancy tools to build. > > Problem with this project is that I'm using a mix of real a/c parts > (yokes, pedals, throttle-box etc) grafted into a custom made shell. I've > had to build the linkages between yokes. > Ahh, ok. My gimbal is more intended for sticks, not yokes. However, you can stack them side by side like the Marchetti SF260 or fore/aft. Pics! Pics! :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Nov 11 07:16:19 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 07:16:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Cool R/C project... Message-ID: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oep3-tE_zvI g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Tue Nov 11 09:06:27 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:06:27 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Finally! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 11 Nov 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > > Problem with this project is that I'm using a mix of real a/c parts > > (yokes, pedals, throttle-box etc) grafted into a custom made shell. I've > > had to build the linkages between yokes. > > > Ahh, ok. My gimbal is more intended for sticks, not yokes. However, you > can stack them side by side like the Marchetti SF260 or fore/aft. My next project is essentially an EN-135 sim which of course, uses a stick. Believe it or not, someone walked into my office holding a brand new commercially made gimbal with pots already fitted and said "Want this?" I'll leave you to guess the answer :-) -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Nov 11 09:32:22 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:32:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Finally! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 11 Nov 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > On Tue, 11 Nov 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >>> Problem with this project is that I'm using a mix of real a/c parts >>> (yokes, pedals, throttle-box etc) grafted into a custom made shell. I've >>> had to build the linkages between yokes. >>> >> Ahh, ok. My gimbal is more intended for sticks, not yokes. However, you >> can stack them side by side like the Marchetti SF260 or fore/aft. > > > My next project is essentially an EN-135 sim which of course, uses a > stick. > > Believe it or not, someone walked into my office holding a brand new > commercially made gimbal with pots already fitted and said "Want this?" > > I'll leave you to guess the answer :-) Hehehe. Great! :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Nov 13 15:00:27 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:00:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] A flight control gimbal project... Message-ID: During the course of working on the cockpit designs for the plan set, I needed to come up with a primary flight control gimbal that was easy to build and didn't require any expensive tools to make. After not having much success bulding a "cost reduced" version on my own, I started hanging out on the #flightgear IRC channel and discussing various ways to do this. Well after looking at the way dozens of different homebuilt aircraft did their control rigging, a user named Jentron came up with a very simple design that used a 4" single-gang electrical extension box as its core. Well my version of this gimbal is now completed and since it was developed in conjuction with someone else, I wanted to make sure I made the designs available for other people to use. I've put up a page that describes how it goes together here: http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/jentron_mk2/index.html The instructions aren't complete, but they will be shortly. I'll include a DXF file of the pitch axis bearing blocks because those you can't ballpark the dimensions on. Enjoy! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. "I tried wrapping my brain around VI... now I know why people need coffee mugs with VI commands on it. At least it ain't Emacs. Those guys need THREE coffee mugs." From Strale_64 at hotmail.com Sun Nov 16 03:52:04 2008 From: Strale_64 at hotmail.com (Strale) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 12:52:04 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] Fiberglass complete F-16 Glareshields OFFER Message-ID: <002201c947e1$c05ffe60$0201a8c0@simulator00> Hi Guys, finally i was able to restore my adsl connection and to restore the function of my card reader. So i'm happy to SHOW YOU ALL the COMPLETE GLARESHIELD we're offering ! I took lots of pictures to show details hope You will enjoy them. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A1.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A2.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A3.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A4.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A5.jpg[/ The Two pieces You see attached with tape are what I described as "Half Tubes" in case You decide to drill the Defog Holes (for GEEKS ONLY ... LOL) those parts will avoid to see inside the glareshield and also will be able to receive air flow IN or OUT. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A6.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A7.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A8.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B1.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B2.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B3.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B4.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B5.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B6.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B7.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/C1.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/C2.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/C3.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/C4.jpg[/ THE REAL ONE and THE REPLICA http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/D1.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/D2.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/D3.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/D4.jpg[/ The only thing that need is to SAND them, Drill the Holes according to Your screws diameters...... PAINT in Flat Black .... and the JOB IS DONE ! CHEERS ALL !!!! Davide -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081116/f8ae068f/attachment-0001.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Nov 18 03:09:39 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 03:09:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Fiberglass complete F-16 Glareshields OFFER In-Reply-To: <002201c947e1$c05ffe60$0201a8c0@simulator00> References: <002201c947e1$c05ffe60$0201a8c0@simulator00> Message-ID: On Sun, 16 Nov 2008, Strale wrote: > Hi Guys, finally i was able to restore my adsl connection and to restore > the function of my card reader. So i'm happy to SHOW YOU ALL the > COMPLETE GLARESHIELD we're offering ! Good job, Davide! You should recommend that the defroster vents do get cut out - ventilation helps keep the electronics from baking you out of your 'pit. ;) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From Strale_64 at hotmail.com Sun Nov 16 07:49:17 2008 From: Strale_64 at hotmail.com (Strale) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:49:17 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] Fiberglass complete F-16 Glareshields OFFER References: <002201c947e1$c05ffe60$0201a8c0@simulator00> Message-ID: <000401c94802$e4d83980$0201a8c0@simulator00> Thanks Gene ! surely I suggest it .... unfortunately making it before delivery was hard due to the fact that it's a little bit time consuming ... LOL Cheers Davide ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Buckle" To: "Simulator Cockpit tech list" Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Fiberglass complete F-16 Glareshields OFFER > On Sun, 16 Nov 2008, Strale wrote: > >> Hi Guys, finally i was able to restore my adsl connection and to restore >> the function of my card reader. So i'm happy to SHOW YOU ALL the >> COMPLETE GLARESHIELD we're offering ! > > Good job, Davide! You should recommend that the defroster vents do get > cut out - ventilation helps keep the electronics from baking you out of > your 'pit. ;) > > g. > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > > From surfer.man at free.fr Sun Nov 16 21:39:07 2008 From: surfer.man at free.fr (Jean-Yves "Surfin' ") Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 06:39:07 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] Fiberglass complete F-16 Glareshields OFFER In-Reply-To: <000401c94802$e4d83980$0201a8c0@simulator00> References: <002201c947e1$c05ffe60$0201a8c0@simulator00> <000401c94802$e4d83980$0201a8c0@simulator00> Message-ID: <000601c94876$cfb9a240$6f2ce6c0$@man@free.fr> Hi It's absolutly amazing. What's the production date release ? bye Jean Yves -----Message d'origine----- De?: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] De la part de Strale Envoy??: dimanche 16 novembre 2008 16:49 ??: Simulator Cockpit tech list Objet?: Re: [simpits-tech] Fiberglass complete F-16 Glareshields OFFER Thanks Gene ! surely I suggest it .... unfortunately making it before delivery was hard due to the fact that it's a little bit time consuming ... LOL Cheers Davide ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Buckle" To: "Simulator Cockpit tech list" Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Fiberglass complete F-16 Glareshields OFFER > On Sun, 16 Nov 2008, Strale wrote: > >> Hi Guys, finally i was able to restore my adsl connection and to restore >> the function of my card reader. So i'm happy to SHOW YOU ALL the >> COMPLETE GLARESHIELD we're offering ! > > Good job, Davide! You should recommend that the defroster vents do get > cut out - ventilation helps keep the electronics from baking you out of > your 'pit. ;) > > g. > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > > _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Nov 20 18:58:22 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:58:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Project update - RIVETS! Message-ID: Take a peek at the following pictures: http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/skin It's a step-by-step illustration of how you can use standard aluminum rivets to skin a home built cockpit. The rivets were treated just like nails. You drill an under-sized pilot hole and then tap them in with a mallet that has a plastic face. The rivet heads are relatively soft and by using a plastic mallet, you won't mar the head. You then apply a little CA to the back side and that glues the skin to the frame. On the next one, I'll be using a longer rivet that will allow me to wick CA on the rivet only to lock it in place instead of using the amount of CA that I did on the test part. This was an example done to illustrate that it not only can be done easily, but it looks great too! I ran a few flush rivets as well just to show how that looked. The flush rivets I had didn't have a long enough reach to go through the tempered hardboard plus the 1/2" OSB strigers, so I didn't do very many. I've got ones with a longer reach on order and the next skin application will be done half in flush and half in round head rivets just to give a better visual contrast. Pretty neat, innit? :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From crease-guard at sbcglobal.net Mon Nov 17 12:25:56 2008 From: crease-guard at sbcglobal.net (Joseph Fagner) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:25:56 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Project update - RIVETS! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <062C63D1BA7240CDB62CFDC4829E1510@flightsystems> Sweet. Where did you get that little accordion thingy that spaces the holes apart? I need one of those. Jay Show me a man who cannot be bothered to do the little things, and I will show you a man who cannot be trusted to do the big ones. --Lawrence Bell, Founder Bell Hellicopter -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Gene Buckle Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 8:58 PM To: simpits-tech at simpits.org Cc: x-plane-tech at yahoogroups.com Subject: [simpits-tech] Project update - RIVETS! Take a peek at the following pictures: http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/skin It's a step-by-step illustration of how you can use standard aluminum rivets to skin a home built cockpit. The rivets were treated just like nails. You drill an under-sized pilot hole and then tap them in with a mallet that has a plastic face. The rivet heads are relatively soft and by using a plastic mallet, you won't mar the head. You then apply a little CA to the back side and that glues the skin to the frame. On the next one, I'll be using a longer rivet that will allow me to wick CA on the rivet only to lock it in place instead of using the amount of CA that I did on the test part. This was an example done to illustrate that it not only can be done easily, but it looks great too! I ran a few flush rivets as well just to show how that looked. The flush rivets I had didn't have a long enough reach to go through the tempered hardboard plus the 1/2" OSB strigers, so I didn't do very many. I've got ones with a longer reach on order and the next skin application will be done half in flush and half in round head rivets just to give a better visual contrast. Pretty neat, innit? :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Nov 20 23:11:54 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:11:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Project update - RIVETS! In-Reply-To: <062C63D1BA7240CDB62CFDC4829E1510@flightsystems> References: <062C63D1BA7240CDB62CFDC4829E1510@flightsystems> Message-ID: > Sweet. > Thanks. It's not a fast process. :) > Where did you get that little accordion thingy that spaces the holes apart? > I need one of those. > It's called a rivet fan and you can get one here: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/topages/rivspacer.php g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. "I tried wrapping my brain around VI... now I know why people need coffee mugs with VI commands on it. At least it ain't Emacs. Those guys need THREE coffee mugs." From allendc at qwest.net Mon Nov 17 12:59:58 2008 From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:59:58 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] Project update - RIVETS! In-Reply-To: References: <062C63D1BA7240CDB62CFDC4829E1510@flightsystems> Message-ID: <20081117210027.320D8621C60@mpls-qmqp-03.inet.qwest.net> Gene with all that work why not use ALU and skin if tor real! >It's called a rivet fan and you can get one here: > >http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/topages/rivspacer.php They cost less here! http://www.yardstore.com http://www.yardstore.com/browse.cfm/4,4131.html David www.737FlightSim.com From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Mon Nov 17 13:07:49 2008 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:07:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Using online voice software Message-ID: <724906.85880.qm@web111505.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Are there any programs for online gaming communication that doesnt have a delay in transmitting. I set up Roger Wilco on our LAN between the sims and we are communicating through our real avaition headsets via Laptops. The only issue is the one second delay. ? Justin ??? ? ? ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081117/163a42ca/attachment.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Nov 21 03:05:29 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 03:05:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Using online voice software In-Reply-To: <724906.85880.qm@web111505.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <724906.85880.qm@web111505.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > Are there any programs for online gaming communication that doesnt have > a delay in transmitting. I set up Roger Wilco on our LAN between the > sims and we are communicating through our real avaition headsets via > Laptops. The only issue is the one second delay. ? Justin Try using Team Speak instead. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From sander at vpilot.net Mon Nov 17 13:29:25 2008 From: sander at vpilot.net (Sander van der Moolen) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 22:29:25 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] Using online voice software In-Reply-To: <724906.85880.qm@web111505.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8D7B8F3D485C4CF7BDE23725D4C4EE06.MAI@sohosted21.com> Hi Justin, RW is ehrm. outdated? I can recommend TeamSpeak or Ventrillo, both excellent and easy to use clients. Oh and both free, too. _____ Van: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] Namens Justin Messenger Verzonden: maandag 17 november 2008 22:08 Aan: Simpits Tech Onderwerp: [simpits-tech] Using online voice software Are there any programs for online gaming communication that doesnt have a delay in transmitting. I set up Roger Wilco on our LAN between the sims and we are communicating through our real avaition headsets via Laptops. The only issue is the one second delay. Justin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081117/cf4b50c1/attachment.html From crease-guard at sbcglobal.net Mon Nov 17 13:42:07 2008 From: crease-guard at sbcglobal.net (Joseph Fagner) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:42:07 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Using online voice software Message-ID: <20081117214213.A6603108000B@ns2.simpits.org> Our squad uses Teamspeak. Jay -----Original Message----- From: Justin Messenger Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 3:07 PM To: Simpits Tech Subject: [simpits-tech] Using online voice software Are there any programs for online gaming communication that doesnt have a delay in transmitting. I set up Roger Wilco on our LAN between the sims and we are communicating through our real avaition headsets via Laptops. The only issue is the one second delay. ? Justin ??? ? ? ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081117/8c0bfc0f/attachment.html From geoff at mechpit.com Mon Nov 17 14:07:43 2008 From: geoff at mechpit.com (geoff at mechpit.com) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:07:43 -0800 Subject: [simpits-tech] Using online voice software Message-ID: Will Skype do a conference call? -----Original Message----- From: Joseph Fagner Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 1:42 PM To: Simulator Cockpit tech list Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Using online voice software Our squad uses Teamspeak. Jay -----Original Message----- From: Justin Messenger Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 3:07 PM To: Simpits Tech Subject: [simpits-tech] Using online voice software Are there any programs for online gaming communication that doesnt have a delay in transmitting. I set up Roger Wilco on our LAN between the sims and we are communicating through our real avaition headsets via Laptops. The only issue is the one second delay. ? Justin [The entire original message is not included] From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Mon Nov 17 15:51:58 2008 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:51:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Using online voice software In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <310998.42088.qm@web111516.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Thanks Gene, Ill give it a shot. From: "Gene Buckle" To: "Simulator Cockpit tech list" > Are there any programs for online gaming communication that doesnt have a delay in transmitting. I set up Roger Wilco on our LAN between the sims and we are communicating through our real avaition headsets via Laptops. The only issue is the one second delay. ? Justin Try using Team Speak instead. g. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From echotech1452 at gmail.com Mon Nov 17 16:44:20 2008 From: echotech1452 at gmail.com (delor lauchang) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:44:20 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Fiberglass complete F-16 Glareshields OFFER In-Reply-To: <002201c947e1$c05ffe60$0201a8c0@simulator00> References: <002201c947e1$c05ffe60$0201a8c0@simulator00> Message-ID: images are not showing, said already been moved On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 6:52 AM, Strale wrote: > Hi Guys, > > finally i was able to restore my adsl connection and to restore the > function of my card reader. So i'm happy to SHOW YOU ALL the COMPLETE > GLARESHIELD we're offering ! > > I took lots of pictures to show details hope You will enjoy them. > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A1.jpg[/ > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A2.jpg[/ > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A3.jpg[/ > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A4.jpg > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A5.jpg[/ > The Two pieces You see attached with tape are what I described as "Half > Tubes" > in case You decide to drill the Defog Holes (for GEEKS ONLY ... LOL) those > parts > will avoid to see inside the glareshield and also will be able to receive > air flow IN or OUT. > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A6.jpg[/ > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A7.jpg[/ > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A8.jpg[/ > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B1.jpg[/ > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B2.jpg[/ > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B3.jpg[/ > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B4.jpg[/ > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B5.jpg[/ > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B6.jpg[/ > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B7.jpg[/ > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/C1.jpg[/ > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/C2.jpg[/ > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/C3.jpg[/ > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/C4.jpg[/ > > THE REAL ONE and THE REPLICA > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/D1.jpg[/ > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/D2.jpg[/ > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/D3.jpg[/ > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/D4.jpg[/ > > The only thing that need is to SAND them, Drill the Holes according to Your > screws diameters...... PAINT in Flat Black .... and the JOB IS DONE ! > > > CHEERS ALL !!!! > > Davide > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081117/d3106888/attachment-0001.html From surfer.man at free.fr Mon Nov 17 22:32:47 2008 From: surfer.man at free.fr (Jean-Yves "Surfin' ") Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 07:32:47 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] Fiberglass complete F-16 Glareshields OFFER In-Reply-To: References: <002201c947e1$c05ffe60$0201a8c0@simulator00> Message-ID: <00ba01c94947$8412a590$8c37f0b0$@man@free.fr> Hummm Not really, I found that you have to remove strange symbol after the .jpg Bye JY De : simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] De la part de delor lauchang Envoy? : mardi 18 novembre 2008 01:44 ? : Simulator Cockpit tech list Objet : Re: [simpits-tech] Fiberglass complete F-16 Glareshields OFFER images are not showing, said already been moved On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 6:52 AM, Strale wrote: Hi Guys, finally i was able to restore my adsl connection and to restore the function of my card reader. So i'm happy to SHOW YOU ALL the COMPLETE GLARESHIELD we're offering ! I took lots of pictures to show details hope You will enjoy them. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A1.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A2.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A3.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A4.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A5.jpg[/ The Two pieces You see attached with tape are what I described as "Half Tubes" in case You decide to drill the Defog Holes (for GEEKS ONLY ... LOL) those parts will avoid to see inside the glareshield and also will be able to receive air flow IN or OUT. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A6.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A7.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A8.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B1.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B2.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B3.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B4.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B5.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B6.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B7.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/C1.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/C2.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/C3.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/C4.jpg[/ THE REAL ONE and THE REPLICA http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/D1.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/D2.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/D3.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/D4.jpg[/ The only thing that need is to SAND them, Drill the Holes according to Your screws diameters...... PAINT in Flat Black .... and the JOB IS DONE ! CHEERS ALL !!!! Davide _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081117/fcf07ca2/attachment.html From jimsturs at parambus.com Tue Nov 18 03:42:19 2008 From: jimsturs at parambus.com (Jims Parambus Account) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:42:19 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] Fiberglass complete F-16 Glareshields OFFER In-Reply-To: References: <002201c947e1$c05ffe60$0201a8c0@simulator00> Message-ID: <001b01c94972$b7deef70$0416a8c0@RITASYS1> Had same problem but if you look carefully at the image links there are some additional characters after the .jpg If you click the link and check the URL in your browser bar, you should see some additional symbols like %5D/ . If you just remove these from the end of the link address you will get the pics. Jim. _____ From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of delor lauchang Sent: 18 November 2008 01:44 To: Simulator Cockpit tech list Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Fiberglass complete F-16 Glareshields OFFER images are not showing, said already been moved On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 6:52 AM, Strale wrote: Hi Guys, finally i was able to restore my adsl connection and to restore the function of my card reader. So i'm happy to SHOW YOU ALL the COMPLETE GLARESHIELD we're offering ! I took lots of pictures to show details hope You will enjoy them. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A1.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A2.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A3.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A4.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A5.jpg[/ The Two pieces You see attached with tape are what I described as "Half Tubes" in case You decide to drill the Defog Holes (for GEEKS ONLY ... LOL) those parts will avoid to see inside the glareshield and also will be able to receive air flow IN or OUT. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A6.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A7.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A8.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B1.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B2.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B3.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B4.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B5.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B6.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B7.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/C1.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/C2.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/C3.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/C4.jpg[/ THE REAL ONE and THE REPLICA http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/D1.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/D2.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/D3.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/D4.jpg[/ The only thing that need is to SAND them, Drill the Holes according to Your screws diameters...... PAINT in Flat Black .... and the JOB IS DONE ! CHEERS ALL !!!! Davide _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081118/8ecb7f42/attachment-0001.html From echotech1452 at gmail.com Tue Nov 18 06:40:50 2008 From: echotech1452 at gmail.com (delor lauchang) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 09:40:50 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Fiberglass complete F-16 Glareshields OFFER In-Reply-To: <2762208842031375856@unknownmsgid> References: <002201c947e1$c05ffe60$0201a8c0@simulator00> <2762208842031375856@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: Nice craftsmanship, when will you put this in the market and how much will it costs? Can you provide the dimension and I will check if it will fit my console, I got my console made from the Viper model. On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 1:32 AM, Jean-Yves Surfin' wrote: > Hummm > > > > Not really, I found that you have to remove strange symbol after the .jpg > > > > Bye > > JY > > > > *De :* simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto: > simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] *De la part de* delor lauchang > *Envoy? :* mardi 18 novembre 2008 01:44 > *? :* Simulator Cockpit tech list > *Objet :* Re: [simpits-tech] Fiberglass complete F-16 Glareshields OFFER > > > > images are not showing, said already been moved > > On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 6:52 AM, Strale wrote: > > Hi Guys, > > > > finally i was able to restore my adsl connection and to restore the > function of my card reader. So i'm happy to SHOW YOU ALL the COMPLETE > GLARESHIELD we're offering ! > > > > I took lots of pictures to show details hope You will enjoy them. > > > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A1.jpg[/ > > > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A2.jpg[/ > > > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A3.jpg[/ > > > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A4.jpg > > > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A5.jpg[/ > The Two pieces You see attached with tape are what I described as "Half > Tubes" > in case You decide to drill the Defog Holes (for GEEKS ONLY ... LOL) those > parts > will avoid to see inside the glareshield and also will be able to receive > air flow IN or OUT. > > > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A6.jpg[/ > > > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A7.jpg[/ > > > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A8.jpg[/ > > > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B1.jpg[/ > > > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B2.jpg[/ > > > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B3.jpg[/ > > > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B4.jpg[/ > > > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B5.jpg[/ > > > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B6.jpg[/ > > > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B7.jpg[/ > > > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/C1.jpg[/ > > > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/C2.jpg[/ > > > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/C3.jpg[/ > > > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/C4.jpg[/ > > > > THE REAL ONE and THE REPLICA > > > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/D1.jpg[/ > > > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/D2.jpg[/ > > > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/D3.jpg[/ > > > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/D4.jpg[/ > > > > The only thing that need is to SAND them, Drill the Holes according to Your > screws diameters...... PAINT in Flat Black .... and the JOB IS DONE ! > > > > > CHEERS ALL !!!! > > > > Davide > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081118/446297c5/attachment.html From Strale_64 at hotmail.com Tue Nov 18 13:29:47 2008 From: Strale_64 at hotmail.com (Strale) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:29:47 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] Fiberglass complete F-16 Glareshields OFFER References: <002201c947e1$c05ffe60$0201a8c0@simulator00> <000401c94802$e4d83980$0201a8c0@simulator00> <000601c94876$cfb9a240$6f2ce6c0$@man@free.fr> Message-ID: <005501c949c4$c8648ba0$0201a8c0@simulator00> Hi Mate, production is on run ! just waiting for new orders ! for the time being 8 units were produced and sold .... waiting only for payments to ship out ! LOL ! We can produce as many GS are ordered and it takes about one week to make them Cheers Davide ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean-Yves "Surfin' "" To: "'Simulator Cockpit tech list'" Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 6:39 AM Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Fiberglass complete F-16 Glareshields OFFER Hi It's absolutly amazing. What's the production date release ? bye Jean Yves -----Message d'origine----- De : simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] De la part de Strale Envoy? : dimanche 16 novembre 2008 16:49 ? : Simulator Cockpit tech list Objet : Re: [simpits-tech] Fiberglass complete F-16 Glareshields OFFER Thanks Gene ! surely I suggest it .... unfortunately making it before delivery was hard due to the fact that it's a little bit time consuming ... LOL Cheers Davide ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Buckle" To: "Simulator Cockpit tech list" Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Fiberglass complete F-16 Glareshields OFFER > On Sun, 16 Nov 2008, Strale wrote: > >> Hi Guys, finally i was able to restore my adsl connection and to restore >> the function of my card reader. So i'm happy to SHOW YOU ALL the >> COMPLETE GLARESHIELD we're offering ! > > Good job, Davide! You should recommend that the defroster vents do get > cut out - ventilation helps keep the electronics from baking you out of > your 'pit. ;) > > g. > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > > _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From Strale_64 at hotmail.com Tue Nov 18 13:32:36 2008 From: Strale_64 at hotmail.com (Strale) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:32:36 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] Fiberglass complete F-16 Glareshields OFFER References: <002201c947e1$c05ffe60$0201a8c0@simulator00> Message-ID: <008101c949c5$2d1fe620$0201a8c0@simulator00> Hi , probably you just have to delete the [/ after jpg ..... dunno what happened... probably a bad "cut and paste" ...LOL you can also check the original message at VIPERPIT Contact me fi you need the link or have other troubles. Cheers Davide ----- Original Message ----- From: delor lauchang To: Simulator Cockpit tech list Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 1:44 AM Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Fiberglass complete F-16 Glareshields OFFER images are not showing, said already been moved On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 6:52 AM, Strale wrote: Hi Guys, finally i was able to restore my adsl connection and to restore the function of my card reader. So i'm happy to SHOW YOU ALL the COMPLETE GLARESHIELD we're offering ! I took lots of pictures to show details hope You will enjoy them. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A1.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A2.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A3.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A4.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A5.jpg[/ The Two pieces You see attached with tape are what I described as "Half Tubes" in case You decide to drill the Defog Holes (for GEEKS ONLY ... LOL) those parts will avoid to see inside the glareshield and also will be able to receive air flow IN or OUT. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A6.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A7.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A8.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B1.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B2.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B3.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B4.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B5.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B6.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B7.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/C1.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/C2.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/C3.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/C4.jpg[/ THE REAL ONE and THE REPLICA http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/D1.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/D2.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/D3.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/D4.jpg[/ The only thing that need is to SAND them, Drill the Holes according to Your screws diameters...... PAINT in Flat Black .... and the JOB IS DONE ! CHEERS ALL !!!! Davide _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081118/df799a4f/attachment-0001.html From Strale_64 at hotmail.com Tue Nov 18 13:35:01 2008 From: Strale_64 at hotmail.com (Strale) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:35:01 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] Fiberglass complete F-16 Glareshields OFFER References: <002201c947e1$c05ffe60$0201a8c0@simulator00><2762208842031375856@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <009501c949c5$836e2af0$0201a8c0@simulator00> Hi if you're referring to the VIPER (aimsworth) pit .... unfortunately they won't fit ! Aimsworth is something around 20% downdimensioned against the real bird . contact me at strale_64AThotmailDOTcom for further details Cheers Davide ----- Original Message ----- From: delor lauchang To: Simulator Cockpit tech list Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Fiberglass complete F-16 Glareshields OFFER Nice craftsmanship, when will you put this in the market and how much will it costs? Can you provide the dimension and I will check if it will fit my console, I got my console made from the Viper model. On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 1:32 AM, Jean-Yves Surfin' wrote: Hummm Not really, I found that you have to remove strange symbol after the .jpg Bye JY De : simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] De la part de delor lauchang Envoy? : mardi 18 novembre 2008 01:44 ? : Simulator Cockpit tech list Objet : Re: [simpits-tech] Fiberglass complete F-16 Glareshields OFFER images are not showing, said already been moved On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 6:52 AM, Strale wrote: Hi Guys, finally i was able to restore my adsl connection and to restore the function of my card reader. So i'm happy to SHOW YOU ALL the COMPLETE GLARESHIELD we're offering ! I took lots of pictures to show details hope You will enjoy them. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A1.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A2.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A3.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A4.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A5.jpg[/ The Two pieces You see attached with tape are what I described as "Half Tubes" in case You decide to drill the Defog Holes (for GEEKS ONLY ... LOL) those parts will avoid to see inside the glareshield and also will be able to receive air flow IN or OUT. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A6.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A7.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/A8.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B1.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B2.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B3.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B4.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B5.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B6.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/B7.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/C1.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/C2.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/C3.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/C4.jpg[/ THE REAL ONE and THE REPLICA http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/D1.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/D2.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/D3.jpg[/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Strale/D4.jpg[/ The only thing that need is to SAND them, Drill the Holes according to Your screws diameters...... 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URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081118/5d7ad4e5/attachment.html From moonhome3 at gmail.com Tue Nov 18 13:42:33 2008 From: moonhome3 at gmail.com (Neil moon) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:42:33 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Rudder Pedals Message-ID: <1d1527040811181342k2850293eve29fdeca2fd8b18a@mail.gmail.com> Hi I was wondering if this group could reccomend a good set of rudder pedals? I fly a 747-400 Thanks Jim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081118/5592ab4e/attachment.html From cstemberg at mac.com Tue Nov 18 15:45:51 2008 From: cstemberg at mac.com (Clyde Stemberg) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:45:51 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] CRJ 700 Question Message-ID: <96586183121635099929337162431352669112-Webmail@me.com> Hi Everyone, I am doing some research into building a CRJ 700 simpit. I was wondering if anyone knew where I could get the following: -Switches and Knobs -The flight display screens (If not I could hook them up to Computer Screens) -The Yoke and cockpit chair and pedals -And possible dimensions of the cockpit itself. -Throttle quadrant, speed brake quadrant, parking brake lever and the flap lever. Also I want to build from wood, what type of lumber would I use? Thanks, Clyde From sander at vpilot.net Tue Nov 18 23:07:13 2008 From: sander at vpilot.net (Sander van der Moolen) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 08:07:13 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] CRJ 700 Question In-Reply-To: <96586183121635099929337162431352669112-Webmail@me.com> Message-ID: Hi Clyde, Great to see another regional jet builder! Unfortunately, for us there's not so much ready-made available. I'll try and answer your questions as best I can: 1) Switches and knobs. If you look closely at the different FS hardware shops, you can sometimes use Boeing or Airbus style knobs for your project because they're pretty close to what they look like in a CRJ. For switches, buttons, rotary knobs, etc and electronics you should search the electronics shops like Conrad. 2) FD's are not so much a problem, like you said you can use computer screens behind the front plate. However, you will have to build that front plate yourself. 3) The yoke, you may be able to get that from a salvager (real ones!) or you could have a look at www.routech.ro they make lots of yokes and flightsticks. I've seen their work at the FS Weekend, and it's excellent stuff. Pedals, now that will probably be another DIY project... 4) Dimensions: You could try and get your hands on a handbook, those should have plenty of dimensions. Also search and ask in forums etc, if you're lucky someone already has some dimensions. I've gotten a lot of dimensions by finding out some specific dimensions, then by using a detailed cockpit photo and a ruler I've extrapolated the other dimensions. 5) Center pedestal: That one will most likely be a DIY project. I'm building an ERJ, so I'm facing many of the challenges you face as well. Here's another challenge for you: software. How are you going to make your cockpit come to life? I haven't seen any CRJ software. For wood, I can recommend plywood for structural work because it's light and strong, and for the detailed panels you could use MDF because it's easy to machine and very smooth. I hope this helps! Cheers, Sander -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] Namens Clyde Stemberg Verzonden: woensdag 19 november 2008 0:46 Aan: Simulator Cockpit tech list Onderwerp: [simpits-tech] CRJ 700 Question Hi Everyone, I am doing some research into building a CRJ 700 simpit. I was wondering if anyone knew where I could get the following: -Switches and Knobs -The flight display screens (If not I could hook them up to Computer Screens) -The Yoke and cockpit chair and pedals -And possible dimensions of the cockpit itself. -Throttle quadrant, speed brake quadrant, parking brake lever and the flap lever. Also I want to build from wood, what type of lumber would I use? Thanks, Clyde _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From sean.g at paradise.net.nz Wed Nov 19 14:28:44 2008 From: sean.g at paradise.net.nz (Sean Galbraith) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:28:44 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] CRJ 700 Question In-Reply-To: <96586183121635099929337162431352669112-Webmail@me.com> References: <96586183121635099929337162431352669112-Webmail@me.com> Message-ID: <0KAL0030SQG6P820@smtp4.clear.net.nz> Have you seen: http://www.crj700projekt.de/bilder.html http://www.mycockpit.org/forums/showthread.php?p=45931 http://www.avsim.com/hangar/flight/a320project/crjnova.html SeanG At 12:45 p.m. 19/11/2008, you wrote: >Hi Everyone, > >I am doing some research into building a CRJ 700 simpit. I was >wondering if anyone knew where I could get the following: > >-Switches and Knobs >-The flight display screens (If not I could hook them up to Computer Screens) >-The Yoke and cockpit chair and pedals >-And possible dimensions of the cockpit itself. >-Throttle quadrant, speed brake quadrant, parking brake lever and >the flap lever. > > >Also I want to build from wood, what type of lumber would I use? > > >Thanks, > >Clyde >_______________________________________________ >Simpits-tech mailing list >Simpits-tech at simpits.org >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the >above page. Thanks! From rd at ns.sympatico.ca Wed Nov 19 14:44:41 2008 From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:44:41 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] CRJ 700 Question References: <96586183121635099929337162431352669112-Webmail@me.com> <0KAL0030SQG6P820@smtp4.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: <00e401c94a98$6961a0a0$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> Damn it Sean! You nailed that one. Thanks for those. Very nice links. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Galbraith" To: "Simulator Cockpit tech list" Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] CRJ 700 Question > Have you seen: > http://www.crj700projekt.de/bilder.html > > http://www.mycockpit.org/forums/showthread.php?p=45931 > > http://www.avsim.com/hangar/flight/a320project/crjnova.html > > SeanG > > At 12:45 p.m. 19/11/2008, you wrote: >>Hi Everyone, >> >>I am doing some research into building a CRJ 700 simpit. I was >>wondering if anyone knew where I could get the following: >> >>-Switches and Knobs >>-The flight display screens (If not I could hook them up to Computer >>Screens) >>-The Yoke and cockpit chair and pedals >>-And possible dimensions of the cockpit itself. >>-Throttle quadrant, speed brake quadrant, parking brake lever and >>the flap lever. >> >> >>Also I want to build from wood, what type of lumber would I use? >> >> >>Thanks, >> >>Clyde >>_______________________________________________ >>Simpits-tech mailing list >>Simpits-tech at simpits.org >>http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >>To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the >>above page. Thanks! > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! From geneb at deltasoft.com Wed Nov 19 15:57:44 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:57:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] It's so sad... Message-ID: http://punditkitchen.com/2008/11/14/political-pictures-sad-beach/ g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From sean.g at paradise.net.nz Wed Nov 19 18:25:53 2008 From: sean.g at paradise.net.nz (Sean Galbraith) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:25:53 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] CRJ 700 Question In-Reply-To: <00e401c94a98$6961a0a0$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> References: <96586183121635099929337162431352669112-Webmail@me.com> <0KAL0030SQG6P820@smtp4.clear.net.nz> <00e401c94a98$6961a0a0$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> Message-ID: <0KAM0040F1FEPW00@smtp5.clear.net.nz> Haha, you're welcome.. I'm actually a closet CRJ fan.. and one day, just maybe I'll build one... one day... maybe :) SeanG At 11:44 a.m. 20/11/2008, you wrote: >Damn it Sean! You nailed that one. > >Thanks for those. Very nice links. > >Rick > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Sean Galbraith" >To: "Simulator Cockpit tech list" >Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 6:28 PM >Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] CRJ 700 Question > > > > Have you seen: > > http://www.crj700projekt.de/bilder.html > > > > http://www.mycockpit.org/forums/showthread.php?p=45931 > > > > http://www.avsim.com/hangar/flight/a320project/crjnova.html > > > > SeanG > > > > At 12:45 p.m. 19/11/2008, you wrote: > >>Hi Everyone, > >> > >>I am doing some research into building a CRJ 700 simpit. I was > >>wondering if anyone knew where I could get the following: > >> > >>-Switches and Knobs > >>-The flight display screens (If not I could hook them up to Computer > >>Screens) > >>-The Yoke and cockpit chair and pedals > >>-And possible dimensions of the cockpit itself. > >>-Throttle quadrant, speed brake quadrant, parking brake lever and > >>the flap lever. > >> > >> > >>Also I want to build from wood, what type of lumber would I use? > >> > >> > >>Thanks, > >> > >>Clyde > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Simpits-tech mailing list > >>Simpits-tech at simpits.org > >>http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > >>To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the > >>above page. Thanks! > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Simpits-tech mailing list > > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > > page. Thanks! > >_______________________________________________ >Simpits-tech mailing list >Simpits-tech at simpits.org >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the >above page. Thanks! From geneb at deltasoft.com Wed Nov 19 18:32:43 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:32:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] CRJ 700 Question In-Reply-To: <0KAM0040F1FEPW00@smtp5.clear.net.nz> References: <96586183121635099929337162431352669112-Webmail@me.com> <0KAL0030SQG6P820@smtp4.clear.net.nz> <00e401c94a98$6961a0a0$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> <0KAM0040F1FEPW00@smtp5.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: On Thu, 20 Nov 2008, Sean Galbraith wrote: > Haha, you're welcome.. > I'm actually a closet CRJ fan.. and one day, just maybe I'll build > one... one day... maybe :) > ...at the risk of throwing rocks from the inside of a glass house... Don't you have an A4 and a Queen Air to finish first? :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Wed Nov 19 18:33:21 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:33:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Construction dilemma... Message-ID: I've got a bit of a problem on my hands. The aft section of the cockpit has this nice 1" radius on the corner of a 114 degree angle. This works great if you're going to sheet your virtual bird in some shiny .040 aluminum, but it sucks ass if you're trying to bend 1/8" tempered hardboard on that radius. As my potential customer base (there has to be at least ONE of you out there. :D ) I ask - should I: 1. Tell you to suck it up and learn how to steam bend wood. 2. Tell you to suck it up and sheet your bird with .040 6061. 3. See if you'll pass out when trying to bend the wood with Anhydrous Ammonia 4. Include an alternate frame design that's got a sharp angle instead of the radiused angle for those that are smart enough to avoid the ammonia and don't have the desire to learn how to steam bend wood. thanks all. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Wed Nov 19 18:36:17 2008 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:36:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] TILEPROXY visuals Message-ID: <311663.38498.qm@web111516.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Has anyone played with this? It looks outsanding on the website. If this really works I can just emagine it with my projector, Wow! ? http://edtruthan.com/tileproxy/tutorial/ ???? ? ? ? ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081119/6a65ec83/attachment.html From cstemberg at mac.com Wed Nov 19 18:42:37 2008 From: cstemberg at mac.com (Clyde Stemberg) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 21:42:37 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Projection Systems Message-ID: <53417813968552971062723057929644325028-Webmail@me.com> Hi All, What would you guys reccomend for a projection system for my CRJ 700 simpit. Also should I use multiple projectors? Thanks, Clyde From geneb at deltasoft.com Wed Nov 19 18:54:29 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:54:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] TILEPROXY visuals In-Reply-To: <311663.38498.qm@web111516.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <311663.38498.qm@web111516.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 19 Nov 2008, Justin Messenger wrote: > Has anyone played with this? It looks outsanding on the website. If this > really works I can just emagine it with my projector, Wow! ? > http://edtruthan.com/tileproxy/tutorial/ That looks really interesting! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil Wed Nov 19 19:43:13 2008 From: bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil (Brian Sikkema) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 22:43:13 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Construction dilemma... Message-ID: <67ca66265beb4dfe90c8356d17dec7c8.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> 4. Include the instructions on how to do it with alum or steam bending for those inclined to put in the effort/money for the very best, but give us lazy cheap bastards something to work with, too... Sometimes good enough is just that, good enough. :D Brian >------- Original Message ------- >From : Gene Buckle[mailto:geneb at deltasoft.com] >Sent : 11/19/2008 9:33:21 PM >To : simpits-tech at simpits.org >Cc : >Subject : RE: [simpits-tech] Construction dilemma... > >I've got a bit of a problem on my hands. The aft section of the cockpit has this nice 1" radius on the corner of a 114 degree angle. This works great if you're going to sheet your virtual bird in some shiny .040 aluminum, but it sucks ass if you're trying to bend 1/8" tempered hardboard on that radius. As my potential customer base (there has to be at least ONE of you out there. :D ) I ask - should I: 1. Tell you to suck it up and learn how to steam bend wood. 2. Tell you to suck it up and sheet your bird with .040 6061. 3. See if you'll pass out when trying to bend the wood with Anhydrous Ammonia 4. Include an alternate frame design that's got a sharp angle instead of the radiused angle for those that are smart enough to avoid the ammonia and don't have the desire to learn how to steam bend wood. thanks all. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From geneb at deltasoft.com Wed Nov 19 19:54:45 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:54:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Construction dilemma... In-Reply-To: <67ca66265beb4dfe90c8356d17dec7c8.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> References: <67ca66265beb4dfe90c8356d17dec7c8.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> Message-ID: > Include the instructions on how to do it with alum or > steam bending for those inclined to put in the > effort/money for the very best, but give us lazy > cheap bastards something to work with, too... > Sometimes good enough is just that, good enough. :D > That's actually what I'm leaning toward, but instructing on how to safely steam-bend wood is beyond the scope of the project. There's plenty of resources on the net for learning that... g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From crease-guard at sbcglobal.net Wed Nov 19 21:59:23 2008 From: crease-guard at sbcglobal.net (Joseph Fagner) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 23:59:23 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Construction dilemma... In-Reply-To: <67ca66265beb4dfe90c8356d17dec7c8.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> References: <67ca66265beb4dfe90c8356d17dec7c8.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> Message-ID: Although I'm not a potential customer, I'd agree with Brian on this one. Jay Show me a man who cannot be bothered to do the little things, and I will show you a man who cannot be trusted to do the big ones. --Lawrence Bell, Founder Bell Hellicopter -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Brian Sikkema Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:43 PM To: simpits-tech at simpits.org Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Construction dilemma... 4. Include the instructions on how to do it with alum or steam bending for those inclined to put in the effort/money for the very best, but give us lazy cheap bastards something to work with, too... Sometimes good enough is just that, good enough. :D Brian >------- Original Message ------- >From : Gene Buckle[mailto:geneb at deltasoft.com] >Sent : 11/19/2008 9:33:21 PM >To : simpits-tech at simpits.org >Cc : >Subject : RE: [simpits-tech] Construction dilemma... > >I've got a bit of a problem on my hands. The aft section of the cockpit has this nice 1" radius on the corner of a 114 degree angle. This works great if you're going to sheet your virtual bird in some shiny .040 aluminum, but it sucks ass if you're trying to bend 1/8" tempered hardboard on that radius. As my potential customer base (there has to be at least ONE of you out there. :D ) I ask - should I: 1. Tell you to suck it up and learn how to steam bend wood. 2. Tell you to suck it up and sheet your bird with .040 6061. 3. See if you'll pass out when trying to bend the wood with Anhydrous Ammonia 4. Include an alternate frame design that's got a sharp angle instead of the radiused angle for those that are smart enough to avoid the ammonia and don't have the desire to learn how to steam bend wood. thanks all. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From sean.g at paradise.net.nz Wed Nov 19 23:03:14 2008 From: sean.g at paradise.net.nz (Sean Galbraith) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:03:14 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] CRJ 700 Question In-Reply-To: References: <96586183121635099929337162431352669112-Webmail@me.com> <0KAL0030SQG6P820@smtp4.clear.net.nz> <00e401c94a98$6961a0a0$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> <0KAM0040F1FEPW00@smtp5.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: <0KAM001N6E9M7120@smtp3.clear.net.nz> >On Thu, 20 Nov 2008, Sean Galbraith wrote: > > > Haha, you're welcome.. > > I'm actually a closet CRJ fan.. and one day, just maybe I'll build > > one... one day... maybe :) > > >...at the risk of throwing rocks from the inside of a glass house... > >Don't you have an A4 and a Queen Air to finish first? :) Aww crap.. found out at last! Well the A-4 is going well... some updates at: http://picasaweb.google.com/NZ6258/TA4KSimulatorCockpit The Queenair has had a temporary change of assignment, and is working hard as an entertainment device for my wife's Aunt's dirt magnets... it is now fitted with stunning plywood floors, mdf main panel complete with dummy gauges, nice seats (stolen from someones car IIRC) and a big TV for watching airplane movies on :) One it will be coming down here to become a Kingair, which is of course what happens to all Queenairs when they grow up..... There is also the Spitfire that I am apparently building for one of the codies at work, and the single seat half-a-737 I am building as well.... And that's not counting the current work related sim projects So the CRJ.... hmm, wouldn't hold your breath... I am just a project whore, that's all.... SeanG p.s. hows the going? gd&r From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Nov 20 06:53:27 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 06:53:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] CRJ 700 Question In-Reply-To: <0KAM001N6E9M7120@smtp3.clear.net.nz> References: <96586183121635099929337162431352669112-Webmail@me.com> <0KAL0030SQG6P820@smtp4.clear.net.nz> <00e401c94a98$6961a0a0$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> <0KAM0040F1FEPW00@smtp5.clear.net.nz> <0KAM001N6E9M7120@smtp3.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: On Thu, 20 Nov 2008, Sean Galbraith wrote: >> >>> Haha, you're welcome.. >>> I'm actually a closet CRJ fan.. and one day, just maybe I'll build >>> one... one day... maybe :) >>> >> ...at the risk of throwing rocks from the inside of a glass house... >> >> Don't you have an A4 and a Queen Air to finish first? :) > > Aww crap.. found out at last! > > Well the A-4 is going well... some updates at: > http://picasaweb.google.com/NZ6258/TA4KSimulatorCockpit > Very nice! Gotta skin it. :) > The Queenair has had a temporary change of assignment, and is working > hard as an entertainment device for my wife's Aunt's dirt magnets... > it is now fitted with stunning plywood floors, mdf main panel > complete with dummy gauges, nice seats (stolen from someones car > IIRC) and a big TV for watching airplane movies on :) > One it will be coming down here to become a Kingair, which is of > course what happens to all Queenairs when they grow up..... > Ewww. Poor airplane... > p.s. hows the going? gd&r > On a geologic timescale, it's marching ahead at an incredible pace! :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From cyplesma at aol.com Thu Nov 20 07:34:05 2008 From: cyplesma at aol.com (cyplesma at aol.com) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:34:05 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Construction dilemma... In-Reply-To: References: <67ca66265beb4dfe90c8356d17dec7c8.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> Message-ID: <8CB193C8E2F0580-BC8-503@WEBMAIL-MY31.sysops.aol.com> how about a lot of whittling away at say a 2 x 4 and glue? instead of bending -----Original Message----- From: Joseph Fagner To: 'Simulator Cockpit tech list' Sent: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:59 am Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Construction dilemma... Although I'm not a potential customer, I'd agree with Brian on this one. Jay Show me a man who cannot be bothered to do the little things, and I will show you a man who cannot be trusted to do the big ones. --Lawrence Bell, Founder Bell Hellicopter -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Brian Sikkema Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:43 PM To: simpits-tech at simpits.org Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Construction dilemma... 4. Include the instructions on how to do it with alum or steam bending for those inclined to put in the effort/money for the very best, but give us lazy cheap bastards something to work with, too... Sometimes good enough is just that, good enough. :D Brian >------- Original Message ------- >From : Gene Buckle[mailto:geneb at deltasoft.com] >Sent : 11/19/2008 9:33:21 PM >To : simpits-tech at simpits.org >Cc : >Subject : RE: [simpits-tech] Construction dilemma... > >I've got a bit of a problem on my hands. The aft section of the cockpit has this nice 1" radius on the corner of a 114 degree angle. This works great if you're going to sheet your virtual bird in some shiny .040 aluminum, but it sucks ass if you're trying to bend 1/8" tempered hardboard on that radius. As my potential customer base (there has to be at least ONE of you out there. :D ) I ask - should I: 1. Tell you to suck it up and learn how to steam bend wood. 2. Tell you to suck it up and sheet your bird with .040 6061. 3. See if you'll pass out when trying to bend the wood with Anhydrous Ammonia 4. Include an alternate frame design that's got a sharp angle instead of the radiused angle for those that are smart enough to avoid the ammonia and don't have the desire to learn how to steam bend wood. thanks all. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. 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If this > really works I can just emagine it with my projector, Wow! > > http://edtruthan.com/tileproxy/tutorial/ > > ** > ** > ** > * * > > ** > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081120/f4149681/attachment-0001.html From bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil Thu Nov 20 10:37:44 2008 From: bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil (Brian Sikkema) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:37:44 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Construction dilemma... Message-ID: <46dcc23c5f0243dcb8d95907fc173d63.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> >That's actually what I'm leaning toward, but instructing on how to safely >steam-bend wood is beyond the scope of the project. There's plenty of >resources on the net for learning that... Well not instructions on how to steam bend, but instructions on how to build that section with steam-bent wood. Brian From sean.g at paradise.net.nz Thu Nov 20 10:39:50 2008 From: sean.g at paradise.net.nz (Sean Galbraith) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 07:39:50 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] CRJ 700 Question In-Reply-To: References: <96586183121635099929337162431352669112-Webmail@me.com> <0KAL0030SQG6P820@smtp4.clear.net.nz> <00e401c94a98$6961a0a0$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> <0KAM0040F1FEPW00@smtp5.clear.net.nz> <0KAM001N6E9M7120@smtp3.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: <0KAN005REAIM1N50@smtp5.clear.net.nz> > > > Well the A-4 is going well... some updates at: > > http://picasaweb.google.com/NZ6258/TA4KSimulatorCockpit > > >Very nice! Gotta skin it. :) Funny you should mention that... I'm working on fabricating some ribs, then the 0.7mm Ali goes on... with lots of countersunk/flush rivets..... > > The Queenair has had a temporary change of assignment, and is working > > hard as an entertainment device for my wife's Aunt's dirt magnets... > > it is now fitted with stunning plywood floors, mdf main panel > > complete with dummy gauges, nice seats (stolen from someones car > > IIRC) and a big TV for watching airplane movies on :) > > One it will be coming down here to become a Kingair, which is of > > course what happens to all Queenairs when they grow up..... > > >Ewww. Poor airplane... Nah, it's not that bad. To help you sleep at night think of it as a "future simpit builders recruitment programme"...... ;-) > > p.s. hows the going? gd&r > > > >On a geologic timescale, it's marching ahead at an incredible pace! :) Right... and if you keep telling yourself that someday you may even start believing, right? I can sympathize... the Skyhawk sat in the workshop under a tarp for over a year with absolutely nothing done to it, due to work pressures...... was nice to dig her out and do some work. In fact, had it's first actual flight recently. It's now in the workshop where I actually work, so there is a slightly improved chance that I'll actually get to work on it.... SeanG From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Nov 20 12:59:15 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:59:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Construction dilemma... In-Reply-To: <46dcc23c5f0243dcb8d95907fc173d63.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> References: <46dcc23c5f0243dcb8d95907fc173d63.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> Message-ID: On Thu, 20 Nov 2008, Brian Sikkema wrote: >> That's actually what I'm leaning toward, but > instructing on how to safely >> steam-bend wood is beyond the scope of the project. > There's plenty of >> resources on the net for learning that... > > Well not instructions on how to steam bend, but > instructions on how to build that section with > steam-bent wood. > Right. It would be the same technique as used to skin the rest of it. You know the drill: Clamp Mark Cuss because clamp moved Erase Mark Re-Clamp Mark Drill Cuss because drill skittered across the surface an marred the panel etc... :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Nov 20 13:00:21 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:00:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] CRJ 700 Question In-Reply-To: <0KAN005REAIM1N50@smtp5.clear.net.nz> References: <96586183121635099929337162431352669112-Webmail@me.com> <0KAL0030SQG6P820@smtp4.clear.net.nz> <00e401c94a98$6961a0a0$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> <0KAM0040F1FEPW00@smtp5.clear.net.nz> <0KAM001N6E9M7120@smtp3.clear.net.nz> <0KAN005REAIM1N50@smtp5.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: >> On a geologic timescale, it's marching ahead at an incredible pace! :) > > Right... and if you keep telling yourself that someday you may even > start believing, right? > Yep! The first hundred-thousand years is the hardest. :) > I can sympathize... the Skyhawk sat in the workshop under a tarp for > over a year with absolutely nothing done to it, due to work > pressures...... was nice to dig her out and do some work. In fact, > had it's first actual flight recently. It's now in the workshop > where I actually work, so there is a slightly improved chance that > I'll actually get to work on it.... Ahh, neat. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From rd at ns.sympatico.ca Thu Nov 20 13:14:33 2008 From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:14:33 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] Construction dilemma... References: <46dcc23c5f0243dcb8d95907fc173d63.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> Message-ID: <005401c94b54$fcbcd6a0$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> Guys, Don't mean to jump in, but I've glanced at this stream a few times. RE Plywood: I don't know if this is any benefit to you or not, or if you're aware of it, but there is a product called Bendi-Ply (the UK name - can't remember what they call it in N.A.) but it's easily available and not totally out of sight price wise. You can buy it so it bends the short way or the long way. I've used it making molds in the fibreglass industry and you can produce a circle with it less than a foot in diameter without it cracking. I used 1/4" but I think it comes in different thicknesses than that as well. Primarily used for trimming out archways and for curved counter treatments. If you're talking about steaming plywood for skins, this is the answer. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Buckle" . To: "Simulator Cockpit tech list" Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 4:59 PM Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Construction dilemma... > On Thu, 20 Nov 2008, Brian Sikkema wrote: > >>> That's actually what I'm leaning toward, but >> instructing on how to safely >>> steam-bend wood is beyond the scope of the project. >> There's plenty of >>> resources on the net for learning that... >> >> Well not instructions on how to steam bend, but >> instructions on how to build that section with >> steam-bent wood. >> > > Right. It would be the same technique as used to skin the rest of it. > You know the drill: > > Clamp > Mark > Cuss because clamp moved > Erase Mark > Re-Clamp > Mark > Drill > Cuss because drill skittered across the surface an marred the panel > etc... > > :) > > g. > > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Nov 20 14:02:29 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:02:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Construction dilemma... In-Reply-To: <005401c94b54$fcbcd6a0$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> References: <46dcc23c5f0243dcb8d95907fc173d63.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> <005401c94b54$fcbcd6a0$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> Message-ID: On Thu, 20 Nov 2008, Rick Davis wrote: > Guys, > > Don't mean to jump in, but I've glanced at this stream a few times. > By all means Rick, do so. That's what this list is for. > RE Plywood: > > I don't know if this is any benefit to you or not, or if you're aware of it, > but there is a product called Bendi-Ply (the UK name - can't remember what > they call it in N.A.) but it's easily available and not totally out of sight > price wise. You can buy it so it bends the short way or the long way. I've > used it making molds in the fibreglass industry and you can produce a circle > with it less than a foot in diameter without it cracking. I used 1/4" but I > think it comes in different thicknesses than that as well. Primarily used > for trimming out archways and for curved counter treatments. > The trade name around here is Wiggle Board. Unfortunately they don't make it in thicknesses less than 1/4" that I've found. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From rd at ns.sympatico.ca Thu Nov 20 19:38:27 2008 From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:38:27 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] Construction dilemma... References: <46dcc23c5f0243dcb8d95907fc173d63.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil><005401c94b54$fcbcd6a0$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> Message-ID: <000601c94b8a$9da472a0$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> Greg, Have you looked at the material they use for Tub Surrounds? You can buy this too in smaller sized sheets, but it's thin and smooth and white and flexible.(polystyrene) Go to the hardware store and tell them you need to replace the back panels for ten tub surround kits. They'll find it. Cheaper than dirt too. The bendi-ply I found nice though, even at 1/4". Pretty damned flexible. And if you Varathane it or something after it's hard as a rock. Have fun Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Buckle" To: "Simulator Cockpit tech list" Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Construction dilemma... > On Thu, 20 Nov 2008, Rick Davis wrote: > >> Guys, >> >> Don't mean to jump in, but I've glanced at this stream a few times. >> > By all means Rick, do so. That's what this list is for. > >> RE Plywood: >> >> I don't know if this is any benefit to you or not, or if you're aware of >> it, >> but there is a product called Bendi-Ply (the UK name - can't remember >> what >> they call it in N.A.) but it's easily available and not totally out of >> sight >> price wise. You can buy it so it bends the short way or the long way. >> I've >> used it making molds in the fibreglass industry and you can produce a >> circle >> with it less than a foot in diameter without it cracking. I used 1/4" but >> I >> think it comes in different thicknesses than that as well. Primarily used >> for trimming out archways and for curved counter treatments. >> > > The trade name around here is Wiggle Board. Unfortunately they don't make > it in thicknesses less than 1/4" that I've found. > > g. > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! From rhommel at mad.scientist.com Thu Nov 20 21:11:30 2008 From: rhommel at mad.scientist.com (Rob Hommel) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 00:11:30 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Construction dilemma... Message-ID: <20081121051130.734F81642A6@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> Gene: Make some kerf (cut part way through the material)cuts on the back of the hardboard starting about an inch from the bend continue making cuts at about quarter inch intervals until you are about an inch past the bend. Then soak the hard board in water for just a moment, it will become flexible. If the piece is too large to place in a pan soak some cloth in water and leave them wet on the surface until the hardboard begins to absorb the water. Some swelling of the material will occur. Keep 'em flying Rob Hommel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Buckle" To: simpits-tech at simpits.org Subject: [simpits-tech] Construction dilemma... Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:33:21 -0800 (PST) I've got a bit of a problem on my hands. The aft section of the cockpit has this nice 1" radius on the corner of a 114 degree angle. This works great if you're going to sheet your virtual bird in some shiny .040 aluminum, but it sucks ass if you're trying to bend 1/8" tempered hardboard on that radius. As my potential customer base (there has to be at least ONE of you out there. :D ) I ask - should I: 1. Tell you to suck it up and learn how to steam bend wood. 2. Tell you to suck it up and sheet your bird with .040 6061. 3. See if you'll pass out when trying to bend the wood with Anhydrous Ammonia 4. Include an alternate frame design that's got a sharp angle instead of the radiused angle for those that are smart enough to avoid the ammonia and don't have the desire to learn how to steam bend wood. thanks all. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Nov 21 07:35:14 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 07:35:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Construction dilemma... In-Reply-To: <20081121051130.734F81642A6@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20081121051130.734F81642A6@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: > > Make some kerf (cut part way through the material)cuts on the back of > the hardboard starting about an inch from the bend continue making cuts > at about quarter inch intervals until you are about an inch past the > bend. Then soak the hard board in water for just a moment, it will > become flexible. If the piece is too large to place in a pan soak some > cloth in water and leave them wet on the surface until the hardboard > begins to absorb the water. Some swelling of the material will occur. Wet hardboard comes apart. If it doesn't, it's still ruined because of the swelling that results from the wood fibers soaking up the water. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Nov 21 08:51:57 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 08:51:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Planes of Fame Message-ID: In October of 2004, I was lucky enough to be able to spend a few hours at the Planes of Fame museum in Chino, CA. during a business trip. Here's a gallery of all the pictures I took: http://www.geneb.org/PlanesOfFame Enjoy! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From rhommel at mad.scientist.com Fri Nov 21 16:43:43 2008 From: rhommel at mad.scientist.com (Rob Hommel) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:43:43 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Construction dilemma... Message-ID: <20081122004343.67B891642A6@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> I think that you misunderstand you are not soaking it for hours. This technique is used frequently making rounded windows in new construction. rh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Buckle" To: "Simulator Cockpit tech list" Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Construction dilemma... Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 07:35:14 -0800 (PST) > > Make some kerf (cut part way through the material)cuts on the > back of the hardboard starting about an inch from the bend > continue making cuts at about quarter inch intervals until you > are about an inch past the bend. Then soak the hard board in > water for just a moment, it will become flexible. If the piece is > too large to place in a pan soak some cloth in water and leave > them wet on the surface until the hardboard begins to absorb the > water. Some swelling of the material will occur. Wet hardboard comes apart. If it doesn't, it's still ruined because of the swelling that results from the wood fibers soaking up the water. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Sat Nov 22 10:07:02 2008 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 10:07:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] TeamSpeak Message-ID: <434332.1330.qm@web111503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> is it possible to set this up up to work on a LAN without an internet connection? It looks to me that you have to get online and connect to a server. ? Justin ? ? ? ? ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081122/0d741b4d/attachment.html From bjones at pipecomp.com.au Sat Nov 22 10:21:12 2008 From: bjones at pipecomp.com.au (Ben Jones) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 03:21:12 +0900 Subject: [simpits-tech] TeamSpeak References: <434332.1330.qm@web111503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004f01c94ccf$19dd6210$3c00a8c0@BenLaptop> Justin, You should be able to run teamspeak on one pc and use the internal ip address to connect to it. I'll ask one of our guy's who runs this for our LAN condor sessions and let you know the answer. regards Ben West Oz ----- Original Message ----- From: Justin Messenger To: Simpits Tech Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 3:07 AM Subject: [simpits-tech] TeamSpeak is it possible to set this up up to work on a LAN without an internet connection? It looks to me that you have to get online and connect to a server. Justin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081122/44370994/attachment.html From biggles at biggles.demon.nl Sat Nov 22 16:13:35 2008 From: biggles at biggles.demon.nl (Biggles) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 01:13:35 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] TeamSpeak In-Reply-To: <434332.1330.qm@web111503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <434332.1330.qm@web111503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4928A02F.50604@biggles.demon.nl> Just run it on a laptop or whatever in your network. Connect to the local ip of the machine running TS with your client and youre up and running. It should even be possible to run the server and host on the same pc. Just connect to your own ip or 127.0.0.1 (this is never tried myself but theoratical should work.) Good luck, Biggles. > > is it possible to set this up up to work on a LAN without an internet > connection? It looks to me that you have to get online and connect to > a server. > > Justin > /**/ > /**/ > /**/ > /**/ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Delivered using the Free Personal Edition of Mailtraq (www.mailtraq.com) ________________________________________________________________________ Delivered using the Free Personal Edition of Mailtraq (www.mailtraq.com) From biggles at biggles.demon.nl Sat Nov 22 16:15:25 2008 From: biggles at biggles.demon.nl (Biggles) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 01:15:25 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] Construction dilemma... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4928A09D.5070700@biggles.demon.nl> And layers of Cardboard ? Maybe just to simple, but might do the trick visual. Biggles. > I've got a bit of a problem on my hands. > > The aft section of the cockpit has this nice 1" radius on the corner of a > 114 degree angle. > > This works great if you're going to sheet your virtual bird in some shiny > ..040 aluminum, but it sucks ass if you're trying to bend 1/8" tempered > hardboard on that radius. > > As my potential customer base (there has to be at least ONE of you out > there. :D ) I ask - should I: > > 1. Tell you to suck it up and learn how to steam bend wood. > > 2. Tell you to suck it up and sheet your bird with .040 6061. > > 3. See if you'll pass out when trying to bend the wood with Anhydrous > Ammonia > > 4. Include an alternate frame design that's got a sharp angle instead of > the radiused angle for those that are smart enough to avoid the ammonia > and don't have the desire to learn how to steam bend wood. > > thanks all. > > g. > > > ________________________________________________________________________ Delivered using the Free Personal Edition of Mailtraq (www.mailtraq.com) From geneb at deltasoft.com Sat Nov 22 21:01:55 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 21:01:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] TeamSpeak In-Reply-To: <434332.1330.qm@web111503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <434332.1330.qm@web111503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: ?????,??^????b??n??0??(???7????jx????z?(?w??*'"?h?K-?g???r??Z??h??h?X?y??r??y?m?????&?-?rn??????jz??*.??'M??J?????????????0???|]y ?4?N???? 0^l?g(?8^?yr?w?~+l?)? From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Sun Nov 23 10:12:05 2008 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 10:12:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] TeamSpeak In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <590689.41645.qm@web111504.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> How do I run a server? I know nothing about servers and found no info on their website. ? Justin ? ? Saturday, November 22, 2008 11:01 PM From: "Gene Buckle" To: "Simulator Cockpit tech list" > is it possible to set this up up to work on a LAN without an internet connection? It looks to me that you have to get online and connect to a server. ? Justin Justin, you can run your own TeamSpeak servers.. g. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Justin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081123/a97675c7/attachment.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Sun Nov 23 10:46:11 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 10:46:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] TeamSpeak In-Reply-To: <590689.41645.qm@web111504.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <590689.41645.qm@web111504.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > How do I run a server? I know nothing about servers and found no info on > their website. ? Justin ? ? Justin, go here: http://www.teamspeak.com/?page=downloads And download the TeamSpeak 2 Server. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Sun Nov 23 10:47:12 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 10:47:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] gimbal howto... Message-ID: I posted more of it this morning. http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/jentron_mk2 g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From rd at ns.sympatico.ca Sun Nov 23 11:46:32 2008 From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 15:46:32 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] gimbal howto... References: Message-ID: <00f601c94da4$2fe67ee0$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> VERY nice work Gene. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Buckle" To: Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 2:47 PM Subject: [simpits-tech] gimbal howto... >I posted more of it this morning. > > http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/jentron_mk2 > > g. > > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! From geneb at deltasoft.com Sun Nov 23 13:12:46 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 13:12:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] gimbal howto... In-Reply-To: <00f601c94da4$2fe67ee0$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> References: <00f601c94da4$2fe67ee0$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> Message-ID: On Sun, 23 Nov 2008, Rick Davis wrote: > VERY nice work Gene. > > Thanks Rick. The only part I have left to cover is the centering mechanism. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Mon Nov 24 08:32:09 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 16:32:09 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] [x-plane-tech] Project update - RIVETS! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 20 Nov 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: Very smart Gene ! What you need for these though is my foam bucking block at only $29.99 ;-) The rivets are a really sweet detail that'll enhance any pit. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Mon Nov 24 08:42:12 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 16:42:12 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Construction dilemma... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 19 Nov 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: I'd go with option 5. > I've got a bit of a problem on my hands. > > The aft section of the cockpit has this nice 1" radius on the corner of a > 114 degree angle. > > This works great if you're going to sheet your virtual bird in some shiny > .040 aluminum, but it sucks ass if you're trying to bend 1/8" tempered > hardboard on that radius. > > As my potential customer base (there has to be at least ONE of you out > there. :D ) I ask - should I: > > 1. Tell you to suck it up and learn how to steam bend wood. > > 2. Tell you to suck it up and sheet your bird with .040 6061. > > 3. See if you'll pass out when trying to bend the wood with Anhydrous > Ammonia > > 4. Include an alternate frame design that's got a sharp angle instead of > the radiused angle for those that are smart enough to avoid the ammonia > and don't have the desire to learn how to steam bend wood. > > thanks all. > > g. > > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Mon Nov 24 08:45:03 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 16:45:03 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Construction dilemma... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 20 Nov 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > > The trade name around here is Wiggle Board. Unfortunately they don't make > it in thicknesses less than 1/4" that I've found. > Wiggle Board? HAR!! LMFAO !! hmmm... Don't they do a thinner version of this in MDF ? Wiggle board... heh heh heh... -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Mon Nov 24 08:48:46 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 16:48:46 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] hangstrum KE 108 Update In-Reply-To: <436271.44551.qm@web111516.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 23 Nov 2008, Justin Messenger wrote: > It seems the KE 108 software does not run on Vista 32 bit home. It is not happy with a DLL file. I am waiting for a response from them after the weekend. > ? I just ordered a 108 together with some rotary 5's, pot boards and led5's. I'll try and write it all up once I get to play with them all. Roy. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Nov 24 09:01:39 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 09:01:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] [x-plane-tech] Project update - RIVETS! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, 24 Nov 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > On Thu, 20 Nov 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > > > Very smart Gene ! > > What you need for these though is my foam bucking block at only $29.99 ;-) > Hehehe. > > The rivets are a really sweet detail that'll enhance any pit. > Unfortunately as it turns out, they're really not as suitable as I'd hoped. The repeated impact from the hammering was doing damage to the stringers. The job really requires two people, with one person holding a heavy weight against the back of the stringer to prevent it from bouncing apart. I ended up using #8 5/8" flat head screws to finish out the right side. I'll be posting pictures and video of it this week. I completely stripped my local Ace hardware of literally every #8 5/8" flat head screw they had. I've got 500 more on order. The whole right side will take about 275 screws. That sounds like a lot, but it's not that bad once you get into a rythm of pilot drill, countersink, place screw. I used my air drill to run 7/64" pilot holes followed by using a 100 degree countersink in a micro-stop. I need to get an 82 degree countersink though - standard wood screws use that angle, while 100 is more common to rivets. I found that placing screws into the ribs (edge on) tended to strip quite easily with a 5/8" screw. I found that going to a 3/4" screw pretty much eliminated the problem as long as you don't try to over-torque the screw. Yesterday I finished the skinning work I'd started on Saturday (ran out of screws!) so now the whole right side of the cockpit has been skinned. It looks ok - the screws stand a bit proud of the service for about half of the run. I was experimenting with various micro-stop depths. I got the part set for the "alternate" non-radiused aft upper section cut yesterday, as well as the parts that will be the end frames for the canopy that will go along with the windscreen frame. I've really tried hard to make this thing as easy to build as possible, but the windscreen/canopy option is really going to require a table saw of some kind. The reason for this is that the various parts must have angle cuts made in them in order for everthing to fit together properly. I may offer a special order part set if demand is high enough from those that can't make the parts themselves. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Nov 24 09:07:08 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 09:07:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Construction dilemma... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, 24 Nov 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > On Thu, 20 Nov 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >> >> The trade name around here is Wiggle Board. Unfortunately they don't make >> it in thicknesses less than 1/4" that I've found. >> > > > Wiggle Board? HAR!! LMFAO !! > Didn't you use this for the cockpit you built for the Uni a few years ago? > > hmmm... > > Don't they do a thinner version of this in MDF ? Not that I've been able to find. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Mon Nov 24 09:03:12 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 17:03:12 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Construction dilemma... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 24 Nov 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > > Wiggle Board? HAR!! LMFAO !! > > > Didn't you use this for the cockpit you built for the Uni a few years ago? No. That used 1/2" playwood for the ribs, some regular white-wood for the stringers, and 4mm hardboard for the skin. (low budget, oh yes). The skin was glued to the ribs. Wood glue is amazing stuff, it never fails to amaze me. What I did do was lay the hardboard sheets over the pit for 24 hours which gave the board a nice curve - then glued them in place using clamps and brads to hold it while the glue set. That sim has withstood four different locations now each requiring a breakdown, transport, rebuild. Nothing at all shows any signs of failure. The new sim is all welded steel - bet it breaks ;-) > > Don't they do a thinner version of this in MDF ? > > Not that I've been able to find. I'm sure I used 3 or 4mm bendy MDF for the instrument binnacle in my EC-135 sim. I'll have to have a look for any off-cuts I might still have. Nah, no point really - I'm not mailing you 8'x4' sheets of MDF !! Roy. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Nov 24 09:54:35 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 09:54:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Construction dilemma... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, 24 Nov 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > On Mon, 24 Nov 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >>> Wiggle Board? HAR!! LMFAO !! >>> >> Didn't you use this for the cockpit you built for the Uni a few years ago? > > No. That used 1/2" playwood for the ribs, some regular white-wood for the > stringers, and 4mm hardboard for the skin. (low budget, oh yes). > > The skin was glued to the ribs. Wood glue is amazing stuff, it never fails > to amaze me. What I did do was lay the hardboard sheets over the pit for > 24 hours which gave the board a nice curve - then glued them in place > using clamps and brads to hold it while the glue set. > Hmmm. I'll have to look into that. The hardboard I have is just a bit thinner than what you used. Did you set the brads and fill over the hole afterwards? Glue & brads would be a nice alternative to 500+ screws. :) > > The new sim is all welded steel - bet it breaks ;-) > I bet you're right. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Mon Nov 24 11:35:04 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:35:04 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Construction dilemma... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 24 Nov 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > Hmmm. I'll have to look into that. The hardboard I have is just a bit > thinner than what you used. Did you set the brads and fill over the hole > afterwards? I used a small air-nailer to fire the brads which ended up _just_ shy of the surface. Once the pit was painted you couldn't see em. > > The new sim is all welded steel - bet it breaks ;-) > > > I bet you're right. :) le grande sigh eh? -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Nov 24 17:04:07 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 17:04:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Construction dilemma... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, 24 Nov 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > On Mon, 24 Nov 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >> Hmmm. I'll have to look into that. The hardboard I have is just a bit >> thinner than what you used. Did you set the brads and fill over the hole >> afterwards? > > I used a small air-nailer to fire the brads which ended up _just_ shy of > the surface. Once the pit was painted you couldn't see em. > Did you have any "puffing" around the hole the pin made as it went in? Did you space them evenly across the whole thing (say 2" centers?) People can get 18ga brad nailers from a discount tool seller called Harbor Freight for about $20.... g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Mon Nov 24 10:37:15 2008 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 10:37:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] KE-USB108 success!! Message-ID: <806546.72884.qm@web111506.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I asked them to email the software to be sure there was not a problem with the program on the CD. That did the trick, the software now loads and I tossed the CD into the trash. Hangstrom was fast to?email the software when I asked for it so Kudos on great customer service. No I can look forward to several hours of assigning switch commands... ? ? Does the KE-72 now do joystick buttons since it is no longer DOS? The KE-USB108?has 60 plus joystick button outputs available, something not possible with the old KE-72. ? Justin? ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081124/d74256bd/attachment-0001.html From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Tue Nov 25 03:30:24 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 11:30:24 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Construction dilemma... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 24 Nov 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > > I used a small air-nailer to fire the brads which ended up _just_ shy of > > the surface. Once the pit was painted you couldn't see em. > > > Did you have any "puffing" around the hole the pin made as it went in? Nope. Those suckers go in so fast the hardboard only has time to say "WTF?" > Did you space them evenly across the whole thing (say 2" centers?) Yup. I fired a ton of those babies - I felt like Norm for a day. > People can get 18ga brad nailers from a discount tool seller called Harbor > Freight for about $20.... Indeed - over here you can buy a small compressor with brad nailer for about $150. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Tue Nov 25 03:31:38 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 11:31:38 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] KE-USB108 success!! In-Reply-To: <806546.72884.qm@web111506.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 24 Nov 2008, Justin Messenger wrote: > I asked them to email the software to be sure there was not a problem > with the program on the CD. That did the trick, the software now loads > and I tossed the CD into the trash. Hangstrom was fast to?email the > software when I asked for it so Kudos on great customer service. Their service has always been perfect. Friendly folks there. > No I can look forward to several hours of assigning switch commands... ? > Does the KE-72 now do joystick buttons since it is no longer DOS? The > KE-USB108?has 60 plus joystick button outputs available, something not > possible with the old KE-72. ? Justin? ? Nope - the KE72 doesn't do stick buttons. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Nov 27 15:15:33 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 15:15:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Construction dilemma... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 25 Nov 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > On Mon, 24 Nov 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >>> I used a small air-nailer to fire the brads which ended up _just_ shy of >>> the surface. Once the pit was painted you couldn't see em. >>> >> Did you have any "puffing" around the hole the pin made as it went in? > > Nope. Those suckers go in so fast the hardboard only has time to say > "WTF?" > Ah, ok. I seem to recall the puffing happening to me in the past. I'll have to do some experimenting. >> Did you space them evenly across the whole thing (say 2" centers?) > > Yup. I fired a ton of those babies - I felt like Norm for a day. > > Ah, ok. That's what I'd hoped to hear. It's a bitch to try to use clamps in the "field" - you can really only do the edges. Unless...did you use a band clamp of some kind? BTW, here's the result of this past weekends' work: http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/skin/big_side.jpg It's a big image. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Sat Nov 29 07:21:29 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 07:21:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] final windscreen design... Message-ID: Ok gang, I need a yea or nay on this windscreen layout. Here's a rendering if it on the cockpit frame: http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/windscreen_test/windscreen_whole.png Here are two different views of the windscreen frame all by itself: http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/windscreen_test/windscreen_alone_1.png http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/windscreen_test/windscreen_alone_2.png This is similar to the one I posted previously, but the "fit" to the cockpit shell is much better. The top solid part can have a small cutout in it or not - the part is 6" by 14". There is no "face" frame on the windscreen as I think it would interfere too much with the forward view of the screen. The area forward of the windscreen would be a flat deck that could be used to support a standard monitor or an "in your face" mounted rear projection screen. I need to know if you guys (and gal?) spot any fatal errors in this assembly. It WILL require you have a table saw to build. There are multiple 25 degree and 100 degree cuts that need to be made in order to make things fit properly. Don't be shy - I need to know of any problems before any of these are in the field. Thanks all! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From sean.g at paradise.net.nz Tue Nov 25 21:48:45 2008 From: sean.g at paradise.net.nz (Sean Galbraith) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 18:48:45 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] final windscreen design... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0KAX00EKCETFYD20@smtp5.clear.net.nz> I like it. Starting to take shape in that "hey it looks like a... no wait, maybe a...." sort of way. Only thing I can see, which may not actually be a problem is the dimension of the rear "bulkhead" of the screen; How much of your forward view is it going to block? But then I suppose it is a fairly structural component, knowing how much people like to swing on the canopy bow of the A-4 :) I do like the look though, I like it a lot.. but my wife says I am not allowed one.... maybe the TA-4 (currently at work) the Queenair (in "storage") the half-a-737 (building for a workmate) and the Spitfire (Which I am building in return for the software to run my sim... sketches of which keep appearing on the kitchen table, leading to probing questions...) are too much? Sean At 04:21 a.m. 30/11/2008, you wrote: >Ok gang, I need a yea or nay on this windscreen layout. > >Here's a rendering if it on the cockpit frame: >http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/windscreen_test/windscreen_whole.png > >Here are two different views of the windscreen frame all by itself: >http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/windscreen_test/windscreen_alone_1.png >http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/windscreen_test/windscreen_alone_2.png > >This is similar to the one I posted previously, but the "fit" to the >cockpit shell is much better. The top solid part can have a small cutout >in it or not - the part is 6" by 14". > >There is no "face" frame on the windscreen as I think it would interfere >too much with the forward view of the screen. > >The area forward of the windscreen would be a flat deck that could be used >to support a standard monitor or an "in your face" mounted rear projection >screen. > >I need to know if you guys (and gal?) spot any fatal errors in this >assembly. It WILL require you have a table saw to build. There are >multiple 25 degree and 100 degree cuts that need to be made in order to >make things fit properly. > >Don't be shy - I need to know of any problems before any of these are in >the field. > >Thanks all! > >g. > > >-- >Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 >http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. >_______________________________________________ >Simpits-tech mailing list >Simpits-tech at simpits.org >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the >above page. Thanks! From geneb at deltasoft.com Sat Nov 29 09:04:34 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 09:04:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] final windscreen design... In-Reply-To: <0KAX00EKCETFYD20@smtp5.clear.net.nz> References: <0KAX00EKCETFYD20@smtp5.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: On Wed, 26 Nov 2008, Sean Galbraith wrote: > I like it. Starting to take shape in that "hey it looks like a... no > wait, maybe a...." sort of way. > > Only thing I can see, which may not actually be a problem is the > dimension of the rear "bulkhead" of the screen; How much of your > forward view is it going to block? But then I suppose it is a fairly > structural component, knowing how much people like to swing on the > canopy bow of the A-4 :) > Are you referring to the part that would normally be called the canopy bow? It's actually not intrusive at all because of how close you sit to it. Keep in mind that the top part is 14" wide. The frame itself is only 2" wide or so. > I do like the look though, I like it a lot.. but my wife says I am > not allowed one.... maybe the TA-4 (currently at work) the Queenair That's the beauty of this thing. Once it's built, you can unbolt the sections and it breaks down into an easily hideable project. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From sean.g at paradise.net.nz Wed Nov 26 01:58:57 2008 From: sean.g at paradise.net.nz (Sean Galbraith) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 22:58:57 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] final windscreen design... In-Reply-To: References: <0KAX00EKCETFYD20@smtp5.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: <0KAX000NSQEEUH00@smtp5.clear.net.nz> >Are you referring to the part that would normally be called the canopy >bow? It's actually not intrusive at all because of how close you sit to >it. Keep in mind that the top part is 14" wide. The frame itself is only >2" wide or so. Ok I'll buy that, without thinking about the scale it looked like a relatively small gap :) > > I do like the look though, I like it a lot.. but my wife says I am > > not allowed one.... maybe the TA-4 (currently at work) the Queenair > >That's the beauty of this thing. Once it's built, you can unbolt the >sections and it breaks down into an easily hideable project. :) Umm, yeah.... "No honey, that's that sim I built years ago... honest".... might work SeanG From bjones at pipecomp.com.au Tue Nov 25 22:00:38 2008 From: bjones at pipecomp.com.au (Ben Jones) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 15:00:38 +0900 Subject: [simpits-tech] final windscreen design... References: Message-ID: <000001c94fb8$fff4f470$3c00a8c0@BenLaptop> Looks good you may proceed. 8-) regards Ben West Oz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Buckle" To: Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 12:21 AM Subject: [simpits-tech] final windscreen design... > > Ok gang, I need a yea or nay on this windscreen layout. > > Here's a rendering if it on the cockpit frame: > http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/windscreen_test/windscreen_whole.png > > Here are two different views of the windscreen frame all by itself: > http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/windscreen_test/windscreen_alone_1.png > http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/windscreen_test/windscreen_alone_2.png > > This is similar to the one I posted previously, but the "fit" to the > cockpit shell is much better. The top solid part can have a small cutout > in it or not - the part is 6" by 14". > > There is no "face" frame on the windscreen as I think it would interfere > too much with the forward view of the screen. > > The area forward of the windscreen would be a flat deck that could be used > to support a standard monitor or an "in your face" mounted rear projection > screen. > > I need to know if you guys (and gal?) spot any fatal errors in this > assembly. It WILL require you have a table saw to build. There are > multiple 25 degree and 100 degree cuts that need to be made in order to > make things fit properly. > > Don't be shy - I need to know of any problems before any of these are in > the field. > > Thanks all! > > g. > > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > From geneb at deltasoft.com Sun Nov 30 06:57:46 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 06:57:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] final windscreen design... In-Reply-To: <0KAX000NSQEEUH00@smtp5.clear.net.nz> References: <0KAX00EKCETFYD20@smtp5.clear.net.nz> <0KAX000NSQEEUH00@smtp5.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: On Wed, 26 Nov 2008, Sean Galbraith wrote: > >> Are you referring to the part that would normally be called the canopy >> bow? It's actually not intrusive at all because of how close you sit to >> it. Keep in mind that the top part is 14" wide. The frame itself is only >> 2" wide or so. > > Ok I'll buy that, without thinking about the scale it looked like a > relatively small gap :) > That can be a problem with model renderings. Here's what it looks like for "real": http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/windscreen_test/windscreen-1.jpg This is the first prototype I made of the frame up. >>> I do like the look though, I like it a lot.. but my wife says I am >>> not allowed one.... maybe the TA-4 (currently at work) the Queenair >> >> That's the beauty of this thing. Once it's built, you can unbolt the >> sections and it breaks down into an easily hideable project. :) > > Umm, yeah.... "No honey, that's that sim I built years ago... > honest".... might work Heheh. Go for it! :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Sun Nov 30 07:52:38 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 07:52:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] final windscreen design... In-Reply-To: <000001c94fb8$fff4f470$3c00a8c0@BenLaptop> References: <000001c94fb8$fff4f470$3c00a8c0@BenLaptop> Message-ID: On Wed, 26 Nov 2008, Ben Jones wrote: > Looks good you may proceed. > Golly Ben, thanks! /me heads out to the trout pond... g. :) -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Wed Nov 26 21:45:36 2008 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 21:45:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] KEUSB 108 Message-ID: <747783.77753.qm@web111509.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I programmed the 1st switches with it today and I am very happy that I purchased it.? A+ product.? I will be purchasing more. ? Justin ? ? ? ? ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081126/4ed45175/attachment.html From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Thu Nov 27 04:13:02 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 12:13:02 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Construction dilemma... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 27 Nov 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > Ah, ok. That's what I'd hoped to hear. It's a bitch to try to use clamps > in the "field" - you can really only do the edges. Unless...did you use a > band clamp of some kind? If I remember correctly, I clamped 2x4's across the field as I went. > BTW, here's the result of this past weekends' work: > http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/skin/big_side.jpg It's a big image. That does look rather good ! -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Thu Nov 27 04:17:54 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 12:17:54 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] final windscreen design... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sat, 29 Nov 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > > That's the beauty of this thing. Once it's built, you can unbolt the > sections and it breaks down into an easily hideable project. :) > I have a mental image of many den's across the USA with strange 'lumps' under the carpet... cockpit shaped lumps... -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Nov 27 07:20:53 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 07:20:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Construction dilemma... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 27 Nov 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > On Thu, 27 Nov 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >> Ah, ok. That's what I'd hoped to hear. It's a bitch to try to use clamps >> in the "field" - you can really only do the edges. Unless...did you use a >> band clamp of some kind? > > If I remember correctly, I clamped 2x4's across the field as I went. > Ahh, there ya go. > > >> BTW, here's the result of this past weekends' work: >> http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/skin/big_side.jpg It's a big image. > > That does look rather good ! > Thanks. I think for the left side I'll use your process. If that turns out ok I may lay in rivets after the glue dries. I'd drill the hole the correct size for the rivet so I could just dab a bit of white glue on it and press it in with my thumb. That way the pins & glue could do all the heavy lifting and the rivets could just sit there and look cool. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Nov 27 07:22:59 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 07:22:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] final windscreen design... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 27 Nov 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > On Sat, 29 Nov 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >> >> That's the beauty of this thing. Once it's built, you can unbolt the >> sections and it breaks down into an easily hideable project. :) >> > > I have a mental image of many den's across the USA with strange 'lumps' > under the carpet... cockpit shaped lumps... > Not when it's torn down. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Thu Nov 27 08:37:12 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 16:37:12 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Construction dilemma... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 27 Nov 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > Thanks. I think for the left side I'll use your process. If that turns > out ok I may lay in rivets after the glue dries. I'd drill the hole the > correct size for the rivet so I could just dab a bit of white glue on it > and press it in with my thumb. That way the pins & glue could do all the > heavy lifting and the rivets could just sit there and look cool. :) Stick your rivets in the freezer. Drill holes to give a tight(ish) fit. Once the rivets return to ambient temp - they ain't going anywhere. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Nov 27 08:14:53 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 08:14:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Construction dilemma... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 27 Nov 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > On Thu, 27 Nov 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >> Thanks. I think for the left side I'll use your process. If that turns >> out ok I may lay in rivets after the glue dries. I'd drill the hole the >> correct size for the rivet so I could just dab a bit of white glue on it >> and press it in with my thumb. That way the pins & glue could do all the >> heavy lifting and the rivets could just sit there and look cool. :) > > > Stick your rivets in the freezer. Drill holes to give a tight(ish) fit. > > Once the rivets return to ambient temp - they ain't going anywhere. > Now there's an idea. The problem would be doing it next to the freezer as it takes a while to place 275+ rivets. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From cyplesma at aol.com Thu Nov 27 08:20:21 2008 From: cyplesma at aol.com (cyplesma at aol.com) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 11:20:21 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] final windscreen design... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CB1EC32DA514AE-C48-1E9B@webmail-md19.sysops.aol.com> put a slide pole in a closet that goes to the bat I mean man cave. -----Original Message----- From: Gene Buckle To: Simulator Cockpit tech list Sent: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 10:22 am Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] final windscreen design... On Thu, 27 Nov 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > On Sat, 29 Nov 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >> >> That's the beauty of this thing. Once it's built, you can unbolt the >> sections and it breaks down into an easily hideable project. :) >> > > I have a mental image of many den's across the USA with strange 'lumps' > under the carpet... cockpit shaped lumps... > Not when it's torn down. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081127/a168d34d/attachment.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Nov 27 11:30:00 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 11:30:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] shell is complete... Message-ID: Enjoy: http://www.geneb.org/shell_complete.png Have a nice holiday all! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil Thu Nov 27 14:22:39 2008 From: bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil (Brian Sikkema) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 17:22:39 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] shell is complete... Message-ID: >Enjoy: > http://www.geneb.org/shell_complete.png >Have a nice holiday all! >g. *sigh* Gene, Gene, Gene, You just violated simpitter's rule #23: Nothing is ever complete! Since it's just a drawing I suppose we can let it slide. If it were actual hardware you were calling complete I'm afraid I wouldn't be so lenient! lol I mean just look at me... I live by that rule! After all, it can't be complete if it's never even started, right? rofl In the spirit of Thanksgiving.... I'm thankful that Gene and I are separated by about 2,000 miles right now. ;) Brian From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Thu Nov 27 21:38:01 2008 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 21:38:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Reagan Air Force One simulator video Message-ID: <681921.50512.qm@web111512.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I just finished a project for the Reagan Presidential?Library to record the history of the Air Force One simulator, serial 001. The DVD also?included this video clip that is now on Youtube, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o4i3y0mXGw ? In other news, the 727 that we converted last summer into a 53 foot long replica of a 707 Air Force One (SAM 27000) is going to be at a Presidential Experience display for the January 2009 Inauguration. Next month we also start?restoration work on another Air Force One Replica that has been around a?few years?and is a real 707. It was on display for the Republican National Convention but needs some love and restoration. ? Enjoy! Justin ? ? ? ? ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081127/0af26cc2/attachment.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Nov 27 21:38:08 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 21:38:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] shell is complete... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 27 Nov 2008, Brian Sikkema wrote: >> Enjoy: > >> http://www.geneb.org/shell_complete.png > >> Have a nice holiday all! > >> g. > > *sigh* Gene, Gene, Gene, > > You just violated simpitter's rule #23: > Nothing is ever complete! > Hehehe. > Since it's just a drawing I suppose we can let it > slide. If it were actual hardware you were calling > complete I'm afraid I wouldn't be so lenient! lol > I hate to tell you this but the only parts that don't exist in real life yet is the monitor deck and the canopy. Even the windscreen frame lives on as a prototype: http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/windscreen_test/windscreen-1.jpg The rest of the parts will get cut tomorrow. :) > I mean just look at me... I live by that rule! After > all, it can't be complete if it's never even started, > right? rofl > Well if you' get of the dime and start drawing... :) > In the spirit of Thanksgiving.... I'm thankful that > Gene and I are separated by about 2,000 miles right > now. ;) > Chicken. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From sean.g at paradise.net.nz Thu Nov 27 23:00:04 2008 From: sean.g at paradise.net.nz (Sean Galbraith) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 20:00:04 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] shell is complete... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0KB100APB7GCA430@smtp3.clear.net.nz> At 08:30 a.m. 28/11/2008, you wrote: >Enjoy: > >http://www.geneb.org/shell_complete.png > >Have a nice holiday all! Complete? COMPLETE!? I remember, not that long ago, that someone not mentioning names gave me a hard time about not having skinned my sim yet. Now, I'm not one to moan and all but I don't even see no virtual skin on your model....... ;-) But seriously. That looks bloody brilliant! SeanG Hey, that trout slapping hasn't arrived hmm, guess Gene's a sleepin' From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Fri Nov 28 05:47:44 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 13:47:44 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Construction dilemma... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 27 Nov 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > > Stick your rivets in the freezer. Drill holes to give a tight(ish) fit. > > Once the rivets return to ambient temp - they ain't going anywhere. > > > > Now there's an idea. The problem would be doing it next to the freezer as > it takes a while to place 275+ rivets. :) 1. Ask SWMBO to hold the rivets. 2. Tell SWMBO you've bought another cockpit. 3. Apply the now chilly rivets. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Fri Nov 28 05:52:55 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 13:52:55 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] shell is complete... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 27 Nov 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > > Enjoy: > > http://www.geneb.org/shell_complete.png Hey, that looks familiar... oh yeah! http://www.x-plane.info/cockpit/pic5.jpg > > Have a nice holiday all! > I did thanks - *turkey burp* -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Nov 28 07:26:55 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 07:26:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] shell is complete... In-Reply-To: <0KB100APB7GCA430@smtp3.clear.net.nz> References: <0KB100APB7GCA430@smtp3.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: On Fri, 28 Nov 2008, Sean Galbraith wrote: > At 08:30 a.m. 28/11/2008, you wrote: > >> Enjoy: >> >> http://www.geneb.org/shell_complete.png >> >> Have a nice holiday all! > > Complete? COMPLETE!? > I remember, not that long ago, that someone not > mentioning names gave me a hard time still pointing at Gene> about not having skinned my sim yet. Now, I'm > not one to moan and all but I don't even see no virtual > skin on your model....... ;-) > If I put skin on it, then you couldn't bask in the beauty of her sexy bones! > But seriously. That looks bloody brilliant! > Thanks. Hopefully I'll get some of those parts pulled off the screen and shoved into meatspace today. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Nov 28 07:29:17 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 07:29:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Construction dilemma... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, 28 Nov 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > On Thu, 27 Nov 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >>> Stick your rivets in the freezer. Drill holes to give a tight(ish) fit. >>> Once the rivets return to ambient temp - they ain't going anywhere. >>> >> >> Now there's an idea. The problem would be doing it next to the freezer as >> it takes a while to place 275+ rivets. :) > > > 1. Ask SWMBO to hold the rivets. > 2. Tell SWMBO you've bought another cockpit. > 3. Apply the now chilly rivets. They'll have warmed up by the time you're done picking them out of your face and cleaning all the blood off them. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Nov 28 07:31:47 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 07:31:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] shell is complete... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, 28 Nov 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > On Thu, 27 Nov 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >> >> Enjoy: >> >> http://www.geneb.org/shell_complete.png > > Hey, that looks familiar... oh yeah! > http://www.x-plane.info/cockpit/pic5.jpg > Hey, you know what they say. "Good artists create, Great artists steal!" :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Fri Nov 28 08:49:18 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 16:49:18 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Construction dilemma... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 28 Nov 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >> Now there's an idea. The problem would be doing it next to the freezer as > >> it takes a while to place 275+ rivets. :) > > > > 1. Ask SWMBO to hold the rivets. > > 2. Tell SWMBO you've bought another cockpit. > > 3. Apply the now chilly rivets. > > They'll have warmed up by the time you're done picking them out of your > face and cleaning all the blood off them. :) LOL !! I'm assuming that Jen's patience is wearing thin then ;-) -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Nov 28 07:53:04 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 07:53:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Construction dilemma... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, 28 Nov 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > On Fri, 28 Nov 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >>>> Now there's an idea. The problem would be doing it next to the freezer as >>>> it takes a while to place 275+ rivets. :) >>> >>> 1. Ask SWMBO to hold the rivets. >>> 2. Tell SWMBO you've bought another cockpit. >>> 3. Apply the now chilly rivets. >> >> They'll have warmed up by the time you're done picking them out of your >> face and cleaning all the blood off them. :) > > > LOL !! > > I'm assuming that Jen's patience is wearing thin then ;-) > Nope. I was talking about SWMBOs OTHER than mine. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Fri Nov 28 09:01:03 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 17:01:03 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Making use of a projection TV ? Message-ID: I've finally bought a shiny new TV which means that my trusty 42" Sony rear-projection TV is now redundant. I wondered if anyone has found a way to use the guts from one of these monsters in a sim-friendly way ? -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Nov 28 08:12:09 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 08:12:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Making use of a projection TV ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > I've finally bought a shiny new TV which means that my trusty 42" Sony > rear-projection TV is now redundant. > > I wondered if anyone has found a way to use the guts from one of these > monsters in a sim-friendly way ? > YES! Those screens make a fantastic screen for rear projecting against. Rob has scrounged a couple of them and they work really well with both my LCD Panel projector and my standalone projector. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Fri Nov 28 09:26:04 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 17:26:04 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Making use of a projection TV ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 28 Nov 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > > I wondered if anyone has found a way to use the guts from one of these > > monsters in a sim-friendly way ? > > > > YES! Those screens make a fantastic screen for rear projecting against. > Rob has scrounged a couple of them and they work really well with both my > LCD Panel projector and my standalone projector. Blah - might as well keep it as a full TV unit and just plug into the PC's video port! Seems a shame just to dump it. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Sat Nov 29 09:12:40 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 09:12:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] rear projection.... Message-ID: Roy, one thing about using the old TV screen for rear projection that you didn't think about (you may have..) is that the screen should literally be in your face. The car sim that Rob & I built a few years ago used the old screen from a Toshiba rear projection TV. The screen was placed about 18" away from your face so it takes up most of your forward vision. You also get much higher resolutions using a "standard" projector than you will using the built in VGA to PAL converter (or it's digital equivalent). g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Sun Nov 30 11:36:06 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 11:36:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Saturday's WIP pics... Message-ID: Here's a couple of pics from the work done on Saturday. Many thanks to Rob for the repeated sanity checks on weird angle cuts. :) http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/monitor_deck_and_windscreen1.png http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/monitor_deck_and_windscreen2.png The windscreen frame is made from 1/2" MDF and the monitor deck is framed with 1/2" OSB and skinned with 1/8" tempered hardboard. The top is made from 1/4" MDF. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil Sun Nov 30 12:35:55 2008 From: bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil (Brian Sikkema) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:35:55 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Saturday's WIP pics... Message-ID: <76825ad1a54b45ea875cdabbf19ca776.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> > >Here's a couple of pics from the work done on Saturday. Many thanks to >Rob for the repeated sanity checks on weird angle cuts. :) > http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/monitor_deck_and_windscreen1.png > http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/monitor_deck_and_windscreen2.png That is looking darn good, Gene... Brian From geneb at deltasoft.com Sun Nov 30 14:01:19 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:01:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Saturday's WIP pics... In-Reply-To: <76825ad1a54b45ea875cdabbf19ca776.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> References: <76825ad1a54b45ea875cdabbf19ca776.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> Message-ID: On Sun, 30 Nov 2008, Brian Sikkema wrote: > > >> Here's a couple of pics from the work done on > Saturday. Many thanks to >> Rob for the repeated sanity checks on weird angle > cuts. :) > >> > http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/monitor_deck_and_windscreen1.png > >> > http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/monitor_deck_and_windscreen2.png > > > That is looking darn good, Gene... > Thanks Brian. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From catalina299 at gmail.com Sun Nov 30 18:24:21 2008 From: catalina299 at gmail.com (William Segal) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:24:21 -0800 Subject: [simpits-tech] Saturday's WIP pics... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3a0a6c680811301824k11889753n32f62d1532e2da6e@mail.gmail.com> my opinion only a lot of guys my age get into that sim and may not be able to get out. I know I could not maybe when I was50 but not now at 65.It's a bit complicated Regards Bill On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Gene Buckle wrote: > > Here's a couple of pics from the work done on Saturday. Many thanks to > Rob for the repeated sanity checks on weird angle cuts. :) > > http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/monitor_deck_and_windscreen1.png > http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/monitor_deck_and_windscreen2.png > > The windscreen frame is made from 1/2" MDF and the monitor deck is framed > with 1/2" OSB and skinned with 1/8" tempered hardboard. The top is made > from 1/4" MDF. > > g. > > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081130/d39397b8/attachment.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Sun Nov 30 20:11:16 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:11:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Saturday's WIP pics... In-Reply-To: <3a0a6c680811301824k11889753n32f62d1532e2da6e@mail.gmail.com> References: <3a0a6c680811301824k11889753n32f62d1532e2da6e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 30 Nov 2008, William Segal wrote: > my opinion only a lot of guys my age get into that sim and may not be > able to get out. I know I could not maybe when I was50 but not now at > 65.It's a bit complicated > Well that's the beauty of this - because you build it yourself, you can add a drop-down side to make it easier to use. :) Hand rails and Nanny Stripes are optional as well. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.