From bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil Sat Mar 1 15:01:29 2008 From: bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil (Brian Sikkema) Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 18:01:29 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Holy crap I'm heading to Japan.... Message-ID: Hey, I'm headed through your way tomorrow. Me and the fam are headed to the Cosmosphere over in Hutch. So... who do you know at the sim in Witchita? ;) *nudge nudge* Got a couple of buddies that are gonna be headed there after training. Brian >------- Original Message ------- >From : Justin Messenger[mailto:jjmessenger at yahoo.com] >Sent : 2/25/2008 11:04:23 PM >To : simpits-tech at simpits.org >Cc : >Subject : RE: [simpits-tech] Holy crap I'm heading to Japan.... > >Brian, I guess that means my aunt wont be picking up your kid to go to Hillsdale much longer :) Im not sure if I told you but right after we met up in Enid I got a KC-135R sim rid in Wichita, very cool stuff! Then I moved to Wichita last month! Let me know when you get to Altus, My uncle is a C-17 sim instructor there and Im due to go for a visit. I missed out on C-17 sim time that had been scheduled for me last Christmas due to my car breaking down the day I was suppossed to drive down there :( Errrr! Justin ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From rhommel at mad.scientist.com Sat Mar 1 22:27:27 2008 From: rhommel at mad.scientist.com (Rob Hommel) Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 01:27:27 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Holy crap I'm heading to Japan.... Message-ID: <20080302062727.905BA1CE7C0@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> Brian, I used to be a museum member at the Cosmosphere, great place, wish I could be there. Do they still have the lunar lander training simulator? Keep 'em Flying R Hommel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Sikkema" To: simpits-tech at simpits.org Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Holy crap I'm heading to Japan.... Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 18:01:29 -0500 Hey, I'm headed through your way tomorrow. Me and the fam are headed to the Cosmosphere over in Hutch. So... who do you know at the sim in Witchita? ;) *nudge nudge* Got a couple of buddies that are gonna be headed there after training. Brian > ------- Original Message ------- > From : Justin Messenger[mailto:jjmessenger at yahoo.com] > Sent : 2/25/2008 11:04:23 PM > To : simpits-tech at simpits.org > Cc : Subject : RE: [simpits-tech] Holy crap I'm heading to Japan.... > >Brian, I guess that means my aunt wont be picking up your kid to go to Hillsdale much longer :) Im not sure if I told you but right after we met up in Enid I got a KC-135R sim rid in Wichita, very cool stuff! Then I moved to Wichita last month! Let me know when you get to Altus, My uncle is a C-17 sim instructor there and Im due to go for a visit. I missed out on C-17 sim time that had been scheduled for me last Christmas due to my car breaking down the day I was suppossed to drive down there :( Errrr! Justin ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! 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URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080301/a5d9af34/attachment.html From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Mon Mar 3 16:14:08 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 00:14:08 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Cor... new toy ! Message-ID: I only just noticed that the dudes at Hagstrom have a new toy which needs to be added to my Xmas list. http://www.hagstromelectronics.com/products/ke_usb108.html -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Mon Mar 3 20:34:54 2008 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 20:34:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Holy crap I'm heading to Japan.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <764719.98994.qm@web52010.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Crap, Im on digest mode and just now got your email, sorry about that Brian. I would have let you take our two F-4 Phantom simulators for a spin. They are now parked in a private hanger side by side where I work. check out www.f4sim.com and www.phantom.highspeedzone.com to see the sims. Soon I plan to network them to allow formation flying!!!! It will be the first time the Thunderbirds and Blue Angels fly together! I didnt save your phone # or else I would give you a ring. let me know if you come through again. We had the sim in Hutchinson last month for the Big Boys Toyshow. People had to stand in line for 2 hours to get 2 minutes flying time in the sim! AS a matte rof fact we added a couple of clips from the event to the Thunderbird video. The shots of the crowd standing around the trailer in line to get in are from Hutchinson. http://f4sim.com/f-4-phantom-thunderbird-tour.html The trailer was nearly too tall to fit inside the building, we had to do some weaving to get it around stuff hanging from the ceiling. The contact for the KC-135 is a sim tech who happened to also work on our Thunderbird sim when it was still in use at the base. It was the last F-4 sim in operation there. That being said I cant get on the KC-135 sim at moments notice, that was probably a one time deal, due in part with our connection whith the Air Force One project. I can get on the C-17s in Altun lots easier, the problem there is getting the time to drive to Altus! :( Ive only got 9 hours C-17 time so far... If your buddies want some F-4 time let me know. Justin -------------------------------------------------- Hey, I'm headed through your way tomorrow. Me and the fam are headed to the Cosmosphere over in Hutch. So... who do you know at the sim in Witchita? ;) *nudge nudge* Got a couple of buddies that are gonna be headed there after training. Brian Aviation Videos http://HeritageAviationVideos.fly.to/ DC-8 Simulator www.dc8cockpit.catisp.com F-4 Simulators www.Phantom.highspeedzone.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From sean.g at paradise.net.nz Mon Mar 3 22:25:18 2008 From: sean.g at paradise.net.nz (Sean Galbraith) Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:25:18 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] Cor... new toy ! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0JX70078G0I70800@smtp5.clear.net.nz> At 01:14 p.m. 4/03/2008, you wrote: >I only just noticed that the dudes at Hagstrom have a new toy which needs >to be added to my Xmas list. > >http://www.hagstromelectronics.com/products/ke_usb108.html That does it.. I'm going to *have* to buy one now :) Looked at the link and the brain started working thinking of all the cool things I can use one (or more) of these for! As an aside.... we need a wiki, or something similar to keep all kinds of this useful stuff in...... SeanG From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Tue Mar 4 05:41:33 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 13:41:33 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Cor... new toy ! In-Reply-To: <0JX70078G0I70800@smtp5.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: On Tue, 4 Mar 2008, Sean Galbraith wrote: > At 01:14 p.m. 4/03/2008, you wrote: > > > >I only just noticed that the dudes at Hagstrom have a new toy which needs > >to be added to my Xmas list. > > > >http://www.hagstromelectronics.com/products/ke_usb108.html > > That does it.. I'm going to *have* to buy one now :) > > Looked at the link and the brain started working thinking of all the > cool things I can use one (or more) of these for! > > As an aside.... we need a wiki, or something similar to keep all > kinds of this useful stuff in...... I think I've used three of their KE72's in various projects so far. Really nice kit. Robust, reliable and a snap to use. I don't have a USB108 yet though... pass me the phone !! -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Mar 4 06:49:39 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 06:49:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Cor... new toy ! In-Reply-To: <0JX70078G0I70800@smtp5.clear.net.nz> References: <0JX70078G0I70800@smtp5.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: > As an aside.... we need a wiki, or something similar to keep all > kinds of this useful stuff in...... > What would the interest be in trashing the simpits.org site as it exists now and turn it into a registration required (to prevent wiki vandals) wiki? Any volunteers to work on it? Any preferences as to what wiki package to use? g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Tue Mar 4 07:41:00 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 15:41:00 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Cor... new toy ! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 4 Mar 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > What would the interest be in trashing the simpits.org site as it exists > now and turn it into a registration required (to prevent wiki vandals) > wiki? > > Any volunteers to work on it? Any preferences as to what wiki package to > use? You build it, I'll criticise it :-) -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Mar 4 07:44:20 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 07:44:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Cor... new toy ! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >> What would the interest be in trashing the simpits.org site as it exists >> now and turn it into a registration required (to prevent wiki vandals) >> wiki? >> >> Any volunteers to work on it? Any preferences as to what wiki package to >> use? > > > You build it, I'll criticise it :-) > I see a tragic bucking bar accident in your future. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Tue Mar 4 07:51:02 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 15:51:02 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Cor... new toy ! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 4 Mar 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > > You build it, I'll criticise it :-) > > > > I see a tragic bucking bar accident in your future. :) No more of those thanks ! -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil Tue Mar 4 10:03:26 2008 From: bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil (Brian Sikkema) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 13:03:26 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Cor... new toy ! Message-ID: <746735875413408a888ac8c20cdb5131.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> I'm in favor, and happy to contribute once its up. Got too many pots boiling right now to set it up, though... >------- Original Message ------- >From : Gene Buckle[mailto:geneb at deltasoft.com] >Sent : 3/4/2008 9:49:39 AM >To : simpits-tech at simpits.org >Cc : >Subject : RE: Re: [simpits-tech] Cor... new toy ! > >> As an aside.... we need a wiki, or something similar to keep all > kinds of this useful stuff in...... > What would the interest be in trashing the simpits.org site as it exists now and turn it into a registration required (to prevent wiki vandals) wiki? Any volunteers to work on it? Any preferences as to what wiki package to use? g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil Tue Mar 4 11:05:53 2008 From: bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil (Brian Sikkema) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 14:05:53 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Holy crap I'm heading to Japan.... Message-ID: Hey man, Witchita isn't that far away. ;) I might be able to make it up again sometime soon just for that! :D No worries about the 135 sim, lord knows I'll see enough of those very soon. ;) Brian >------- Original Message ------- >From : Justin Messenger[mailto:jjmessenger at yahoo.com] >Sent : 3/3/2008 11:34:54 PM >To : simpits-tech at simpits.org >Cc : >Subject : RE: [simpits-tech] Holy crap I'm heading to Japan.... > >Crap, Im on digest mode and just now got your email, sorry about that Brian. I would have let you take our two F-4 Phantom simulators for a spin. They are now parked in a private hanger side by side where I work. check out www.f4sim.com and www.phantom.highspeedzone.com to see the sims. Soon I plan to network them to allow formation flying!!!! It will be the first time the Thunderbirds and Blue Angels fly together! I didnt save your phone # or else I would give you a ring. let me know if you come through again. We had the sim in Hutchinson last month for the Big Boys Toyshow. People had to stand in line for 2 hours to get 2 minutes flying time in the sim! AS a matte rof fact we added a couple of clips from the event to the Thunderbird video. The shots of the crowd standing around the trailer in line to get in are from Hutchinson. http://f4sim.com/f-4-phantom-thunderbird-tour.html The trailer was nearly too tall to fit inside the building, we had to do some weaving to get it around stuff hanging from the ceiling. The contact for the KC-135 is a sim tech who happened to also work on our Thunderbird sim when it was still in use at the base. It was the last F-4 sim in operation there. That being said I cant get on the KC-135 sim at moments notice, that was probably a one time deal, due in part with our connection whith the Air Force One project. I can get on the C-17s in Altun lots easier, the problem there is getting the time to drive to Altus! :( Ive only got 9 hours C-17 time so far... If your buddies want some F-4 time let me know. Justin -------------------------------------------------- Hey, I'm headed through your way tomorrow. Me and the fam are headed to the Cosmosphere over in Hutch. So... who do you know at the sim in Witchita? ;) *nudge nudge* Got a couple of buddies that are gonna be headed there after training. Brian Aviation Videos http://HeritageAviationVideos.fly.to/ DC-8 Simulator www.dc8cockpit.catisp.com F-4 Simulators www.Phantom.highspeedzone.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Tue Mar 4 14:47:39 2008 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 14:47:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Holy crap I'm heading to Japan.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <742838.24448.qm@web52005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Sounds, cool! my email is heritageaviation at yahoo.com Justin ------------------------------------------------ Hey man, Witchita isn't that far away. ;) I might be able to make it up again sometime soon just for that! :D No worries about the 135 sim, lord knows I'll see enough of those very soon. ;) Brian ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping From bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil Tue Mar 4 15:57:33 2008 From: bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil (Brian Sikkema) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 18:57:33 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Holy crap I'm heading to Japan.... Message-ID: <5fcc701364814d8cb157fce86beddefa.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> Got all my training dates today. I go to Fairchild (BTW Gene... how far? ;)) around 4 April to hang out and get beat up until 25 April, then I get to be home for about a day before heading to Pensacola to be dumped into open, shark-infested water and left to die, then if I survive that I'll head down to Altus on 16 June through the end of October, and finally reporting to Kadena on 30 November. So naturally I spent an entire day today chasing paperwork all over base, making phone calls that would probably bankrupt an average household, and just in general wasting government resources to the max extent possible... ;) PCSing is so much fun... overseas doubly so... add in a baby on the way and an adoption in progress and you have one happy camper here in Oklahoma... lol Brian >------- Original Message ------- >From : Justin Messenger[mailto:jjmessenger at yahoo.com] >Sent : 3/4/2008 5:47:39 PM >To : simpits-tech at simpits.org >Cc : >Subject : RE: Re: [simpits-tech] Holy crap I'm heading to Japan.... > >Sounds, cool! my email is heritageaviation at yahoo.com Justin ------------------------------------------------ Hey man, Witchita isn't that far away. ;) I might be able to make it up again sometime soon just for that! :D No worries about the 135 sim, lord knows I'll see enough of those very soon. ;) Brian ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Mar 4 16:04:02 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 16:04:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Holy crap I'm heading to Japan.... In-Reply-To: <5fcc701364814d8cb157fce86beddefa.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> References: <5fcc701364814d8cb157fce86beddefa.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> Message-ID: > Got all my training dates today. I go to Fairchild > (BTW Gene... how far? ;)) around 4 April to hang out Fairchild is on the other side of the state from me. DO NOT miss their museum. The last time I was there they had a four rail-car B-52 simulator. It was built to travel from base to base for either flight or navigation training. Insanely cool. Take pics of the outside if you do - all mine are interior shots. :) Rob - tell him the story about your old man hanging "BOMB" signs on all the B-36(?) bombers on the flightline at Fairchild. :) > and get beat up until 25 April, then I get to be home > for about a day before heading to Pensacola to be > dumped into open, shark-infested water and left to > die, then if I survive that I'll head down to Altus > on 16 June through the end of October, and finally > reporting to Kadena on 30 November. Don't forget to play dodge 'em with a Chinese MiG. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From rhommel at mad.scientist.com Tue Mar 4 23:53:36 2008 From: rhommel at mad.scientist.com (Rob Hommel) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 02:53:36 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Holy crap I'm heading to Japan.... Message-ID: <20080305075336.3B903103C3@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> Brian: My father was an old brown shoe airman joining the Air Force at a time when the serviceman wore Army style stripes and Army style boots and shoes. Thus the name brown shoe Air Force. His career was one in which a man with a strong back and a weak ind could go far in the Air Force. He was at Fairchild on several occasions and I am uncertain as to the year in which this took place so I will tell as much of the story as I can remember. My father was a Pararescueman, a PJ for those of you who are unfamiliar with them think this is the group of Air Force personel crazy enough to jump out of air planes. Their job is to go in and get a pilot or aircrew member who has managed to in into trouble. If that should be behind enemy lines well it's that others shall live. That others shall live, is the motto of the pararescue man when my father became a PJ the job didn't exist in the Air Force. The Korean war created the need and a few airmen volunteered to create the job. Some was on the job training some like learning to parachute happened then as it does today at Ft. Benning. Following duty during the Korean war, much of the Air Force was uncertain what to do with this group of Pararescuemen so they were often delegated to other duties, personal equipment, survival training which was created about the same time as the end of the Korean war and Air Search and Rescue. These were the secondary MOS duties of the Pararescueman. My father filled each of these roles at different times, most of the time he taught survival training. At Fairchild around 1953 he was tasked with testing the air field security as were several others in his section. Fairchild was at that time a SAC base and remained that way for another twenty five years. Air Field security was something that had never been tested, isolation was it's major defense at the time. Spokane is several miles away and as there had never been a problem, word had come down from on high (read that as SAC HQ) that air field defense was to be examined. Dad and his buddies sneaked on to the tarmac one night and hung paper tags on the aircraft at various points from string, each of which was printed in bold letters the single word, BOMB. The following day each of the Airmen were march in to see the Base Commander, a very unhappy Base Commander who wished to know if they had intended to embarrass the USAF or him personally. My father served the USAF for twenty three years. Keep 'em Flying Rob Hommel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Buckle" To: "Simulator Cockpit tech list" Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Holy crap I'm heading to Japan.... Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 16:04:02 -0800 (PST) > Got all my training dates today. I go to Fairchild > (BTW Gene... how far? ;)) around 4 April to hang out Fairchild is on the other side of the state from me. DO NOT miss their museum. The last time I was there they had a four rail-car B-52 simulator. It was built to travel from base to base for either flight or navigation training. Insanely cool. Take pics of the outside if you do - all mine are interior shots. :) Rob - tell him the story about your old man hanging "BOMB" signs on all the B-36(?) bombers on the flightline at Fairchild. :) > and get beat up until 25 April, then I get to be home > for about a day before heading to Pensacola to be > dumped into open, shark-infested water and left to > die, then if I survive that I'll head down to Altus > on 16 June through the end of October, and finally > reporting to Kadena on 30 November. Don't forget to play dodge 'em with a Chinese MiG. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! -- Want an e-mail address like mine? Get a free e-mail account today at www.mail.com! From rhommel at mad.scientist.com Wed Mar 5 00:13:00 2008 From: rhommel at mad.scientist.com (Rob Hommel) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 03:13:00 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Holy crap I'm heading to Japan.... Message-ID: <20080305081300.F126E1F50B2@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> Brian: Spakane is about 6 hours driving from Tacoma. I wouldn't worry too much about survival training what they are going to do to you, I did when I was eleven years old. They dropped me from an old PT boat into the Gulf of Mexico in a little one man life raft along with about 20 other Airmen most of which were officers told to make it to shore, start a fire, prepare a meal one box of C rations. Yes it was that long ago. Then take a compass heading and carry my raft to a swamp and follow the stream, to a point on the river where we would make camp. I was not the only eleven year old on this trip Sgt. Clark's son joined us as well. Randy and I killed a water moccasin along the way to camp so we ate that night some of the Airmen went without. The following day they taught Randy and I how to make a bow and arrows, create a trap from items in the survival packages we were given, given instructions on primitive fishing etc. Randy and I ran amok in the swamps as kids normally would. We ate whatever we could find, camping with dad was always fun. I have a brother and two sisters, one of my sisters is convinced that our family was an Air Force experiment. To find out what kids would eat. BTW, my father says that if given the choice between starvation and eating a seagull, choose starvation. Keep 'em Flying Rob Hommel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Sikkema" To: simpits-tech at simpits.org Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Holy crap I'm heading to Japan.... Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 18:57:33 -0500 Got all my training dates today. I go to Fairchild (BTW Gene... how far? ;)) around 4 April to hang out and get beat up until 25 April, then I get to be home for about a day before heading to Pensacola to be dumped into open, shark-infested water and left to die, then if I survive that I'll head down to Altus on 16 June through the end of October, and finally reporting to Kadena on 30 November. So naturally I spent an entire day today chasing paperwork all over base, making phone calls that would probably bankrupt an average household, and just in general wasting government resources to the max extent possible... ;) PCSing is so much fun... overseas doubly so... add in a baby on the way and an adoption in progress and you have one happy camper here in Oklahoma... lol Brian > ------- Original Message ------- > From : Justin Messenger[mailto:jjmessenger at yahoo.com] > Sent : 3/4/2008 5:47:39 PM > To : simpits-tech at simpits.org > Cc : Subject : RE: Re: [simpits-tech] Holy crap I'm heading to Japan.... > >Sounds, cool! my email is heritageaviation at yahoo.com Justin ------------------------------------------------ Hey man, Witchita isn't that far away. ;) I might be able to make it up again sometime soon just for that! :D No worries about the 135 sim, lord knows I'll see enough of those very soon. ;) Brian ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! -- Want an e-mail address like mine? Get a free e-mail account today at www.mail.com! From phoenixcomm at gmail.com Wed Mar 5 19:57:40 2008 From: phoenixcomm at gmail.com (Cris Harrison) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 21:57:40 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Holy crap I'm heading to Japan.... In-Reply-To: <35ee09e40a2843b5bc28152bf4aac3cf.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> References: <35ee09e40a2843b5bc28152bf4aac3cf.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> Message-ID: I was at Anderson AFB at the end of Vet. It was a blast ENJOY On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Brian Sikkema wrote: > So I got my assignment last night! KC-135Rs to Kadena > AFB, Okinawa, Japan!!! > > Talk about a dream come true. Very choice assignment, > overseas opportunities don't come down all that often > here. So definitely very exciting. :D > > I graduate from UPT in two weeks, after that I'll > probably have a few months down time before heading > to Altus AFB, OK for my upgrade training, and then > it's on to Japan!!! > > Brian > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > From phoenixcomm at gmail.com Wed Mar 5 20:00:17 2008 From: phoenixcomm at gmail.com (Cris Harrison) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 22:00:17 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Holy crap I'm heading to Japan.... In-Reply-To: References: <35ee09e40a2843b5bc28152bf4aac3cf.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> Message-ID: TYPO Andersen !=Anderson MY BADDDDD On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 9:57 PM, Cris Harrison wrote: > I was at Anderson AFB at the end of Vet. It was a blast > ENJOY > > > > > On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Brian Sikkema wrote: > > So I got my assignment last night! KC-135Rs to Kadena > > AFB, Okinawa, Japan!!! > > > > Talk about a dream come true. Very choice assignment, > > overseas opportunities don't come down all that often > > here. So definitely very exciting. :D > > > > I graduate from UPT in two weeks, after that I'll > > probably have a few months down time before heading > > to Altus AFB, OK for my upgrade training, and then > > it's on to Japan!!! > > > > Brian > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Simpits-tech mailing list > > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > > > From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Mar 6 12:36:20 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 12:36:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Spitfire! Message-ID: http://www.cg-links.com/my-links-images/CG%20Girls/CG%20Girl%2002.jpg Yow! Gimme! :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From alex at flyinglow.ca Thu Mar 6 12:46:38 2008 From: alex at flyinglow.ca (=?iso-8859-1?Q?alex?=) Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:46:38 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Spitfire Message-ID: <20080306204638.792.qmail@s412.sureserver.com> Is that a tiger-moth or a cougar-moth..... Alex http://www.flyinglow.ca From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Mar 6 12:52:31 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 12:52:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Spitfire In-Reply-To: <20080306204638.792.qmail@s412.sureserver.com> References: <20080306204638.792.qmail@s412.sureserver.com> Message-ID: > Is that a tiger-moth or a cougar-moth..... > A Wellington Wench maybe? :) *gd&r* g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From allendc at qwest.net Thu Mar 6 13:09:08 2008 From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen) Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:09:08 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] Spitfire In-Reply-To: References: <20080306204638.792.qmail@s412.sureserver.com> Message-ID: <20080306210914.D0B7E621CA4@mpls-qmqp-03.inet.qwest.net> At 12:52 PM 3/6/2008 -0800, you wrote: > > Is that a tiger-moth or a cougar-moth..... > > >A Wellington Wench maybe? :) *gd&r* To much time in man land Gene! David From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Mar 6 13:15:10 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 13:15:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Spitfire In-Reply-To: <20080306210914.D0B7E621CA4@mpls-qmqp-03.inet.qwest.net> References: <20080306204638.792.qmail@s412.sureserver.com> <20080306210914.D0B7E621CA4@mpls-qmqp-03.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: > At 12:52 PM 3/6/2008 -0800, you wrote: >>> Is that a tiger-moth or a cougar-moth..... >>> >> A Wellington Wench maybe? :) *gd&r* > > To much time in man land Gene! > Never! Never I say! It's unpossible! :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Thu Mar 6 13:58:53 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 21:58:53 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Spitfire! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 6 Mar 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > > http://www.cg-links.com/my-links-images/CG%20Girls/CG%20Girl%2002.jpg > > Yow! Gimme! :) > I see no spitfire ! ;-) -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Thu Mar 6 14:00:20 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 22:00:20 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Spitfire In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 6 Mar 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > > At 12:52 PM 3/6/2008 -0800, you wrote: > >>> Is that a tiger-moth or a cougar-moth..... > >>> > >> A Wellington Wench maybe? :) *gd&r* > > > > To much time in man land Gene! > > > > Never! Never I say! It's unpossible! :) damned right! I just spent another 4 hours cuttin'n'welding up the new simpit, and it felt like 10 minutes. Tomorrow we'll be craning the rear fuse onto the bristol britannia, and then I'll be back in the bat-cave cuttin'n'wleding again :-) Life can be sooooo good! -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Mar 6 14:19:49 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 14:19:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Spitfire In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >> Never! Never I say! It's unpossible! :) > > damned right! I just spent another 4 hours cuttin'n'welding up the new > simpit, and it felt like 10 minutes. > > Tomorrow we'll be craning the rear fuse onto the bristol britannia, and > then I'll be back in the bat-cave cuttin'n'wleding again :-) > > Life can be sooooo good! > I agree. Rob & I will be working on the woodshop again this Saturday. It's getting there, slowly but surely. I've found myself as a supplier of First Person Video accessories for people that like to fly their R/C models from the cockpit. My first video pod is for sale here: http://www.rangevideo.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=47&products_id=106 It's insanely cool being able to fly a model plane with a pair of VR goggles. (and now you know why the cockpit software is late! :D) I've got one coming up for the Multiplex Twin Star II very soon. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Thu Mar 6 15:38:50 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 23:38:50 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Spitfire In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 6 Mar 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > I agree. Rob & I will be working on the woodshop again this Saturday. > It's getting there, slowly but surely. oooh... a dedicated woodshop... *drool* piccies dude ! > It's insanely cool being able to fly a model plane with a pair of VR > goggles. (and now you know why the cockpit software is late! :D) You have far too much free time and spare money on your hands. lucky bast.... -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From frank at rezultat.dk Thu Mar 6 15:43:22 2008 From: frank at rezultat.dk (Frank Riedel) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 00:43:22 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] Spitfire In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080306234354.7F392FAC04D@pfepa.post.tele.dk> G. How do you control the servos with the VR Goggles.. ?? Or is it possible to control the servos with head tracker?? Regards Frank -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] P? vegne af Gene Buckle Sendt: 6. marts 2008 23:20 Til: Simulator Cockpit tech list Emne: Re: [simpits-tech] Spitfire >> Never! Never I say! It's unpossible! :) > > damned right! I just spent another 4 hours cuttin'n'welding up the new > simpit, and it felt like 10 minutes. > > Tomorrow we'll be craning the rear fuse onto the bristol britannia, and > then I'll be back in the bat-cave cuttin'n'wleding again :-) > > Life can be sooooo good! > I agree. Rob & I will be working on the woodshop again this Saturday. It's getting there, slowly but surely. I've found myself as a supplier of First Person Video accessories for people that like to fly their R/C models from the cockpit. My first video pod is for sale here: http://www.rangevideo.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=47&products _id=106 It's insanely cool being able to fly a model plane with a pair of VR goggles. (and now you know why the cockpit software is late! :D) I've got one coming up for the Multiplex Twin Star II very soon. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Mar 6 17:44:58 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 17:44:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Spitfire In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >> I agree. Rob & I will be working on the woodshop again this Saturday. >> It's getting there, slowly but surely. > > oooh... a dedicated woodshop... *drool* piccies dude ! > Not done yet. Still missing a few walls and half a floor. :) > >> It's insanely cool being able to fly a model plane with a pair of VR >> goggles. (and now you know why the cockpit software is late! :D) > > You have far too much free time and spare money on your hands. Not enough spare time and all the money is gone. :( The EZ Pods are paying for the wood shop construction material. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Mar 6 17:47:22 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 17:47:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Spitfire In-Reply-To: <20080306234354.7F392FAC04D@pfepa.post.tele.dk> References: <20080306234354.7F392FAC04D@pfepa.post.tele.dk> Message-ID: > How do you control the servos with the VR Goggles.. ?? > Or is it possible to control the servos with head tracker?? > Frank, right now you fly the plane with the normal R/C gear and just use the goggles for out-the-cockpit views. Some people use a motion tracker on their head, tied to 2 spare channels on the R/C transmitter to get pan and tilt. See this forum: http://www.rcgroups.com/video-piloting-fpv-rpv-469/ g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From alex at flyinglow.ca Thu Mar 6 20:02:51 2008 From: alex at flyinglow.ca (=?iso-8859-1?Q?alex?=) Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:02:51 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Info on Airspeed indicator Message-ID: <20080307040251.13046.qmail@s412.sureserver.com> Hi guys, as the love of planes keeps me going, my hobby keeps migrating. I'm currently playing with R/C stuff - Gene, FPV is really cool, and hopefully I'll get there someday. Anyway, other then cleaning up my website, I have not been up to much except cleaning out a few boxes here and there and I came across an old airspeed indicator. I am wondering if any the vintage restoration guys can help me identify the age of the instrument and possibly what plane it might have been from. It appears to have the radioactive paint on the numbers / needle. The range is blank until 60MPH and it wraps around just over 1 1/2 times to a maximum speed of 320MPH. More details can be found here: http://www.flyinglow.ca/flyinglow/2008/03/start-of-a-new-dayhhhsite.html Thanks, Alex http://www.flyinglow.ca From aircop at comcast.net Thu Mar 6 20:30:00 2008 From: aircop at comcast.net (Ed Henderson) Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 23:30:00 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Info on Airspeed indicator In-Reply-To: <20080307040251.13046.qmail@s412.sureserver.com> References: <20080307040251.13046.qmail@s412.sureserver.com> Message-ID: <47D0C4C8.1030803@comcast.net> Try this... About half way down... http://spitfirespares.com/SPITFIRESPARES.COM/pages/instruments.html Ed alex wrote: > Hi guys, as the love of planes keeps me going, my hobby keeps migrating. I'm currently playing with R/C stuff - Gene, FPV is really cool, and hopefully I'll get there someday. > > Anyway, other then cleaning up my website, I have not been up to much except cleaning out a few boxes here and there and I came across an old airspeed indicator. I am wondering if any the vintage restoration guys can help me identify the age of the instrument and possibly what plane it might have been from. It appears to have the radioactive paint on the numbers / needle. The range is blank until 60MPH and it wraps around just over 1 1/2 times to a maximum speed of 320MPH. > > More details can be found here: > http://www.flyinglow.ca/flyinglow/2008/03/start-of-a-new-dayhhhsite.html > > Thanks, > Alex > http://www.flyinglow.ca > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > > From aircop at comcast.net Thu Mar 6 20:34:55 2008 From: aircop at comcast.net (Ed Henderson) Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 23:34:55 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Info on Airspeed indicator In-Reply-To: <20080307040251.13046.qmail@s412.sureserver.com> References: <20080307040251.13046.qmail@s412.sureserver.com> Message-ID: <47D0C5EF.2020209@comcast.net> Better yet... Lancaster ASI (pg5 ins) *This is an *airspeed* indicator suitable for use in Lancaster panels. Marked 320 Miles per Hour, a hard to find example in very good condition * *A/M *6A/415* Dated 1943* *?115 * *http://spitfirespares.com/SpitfireSpares.com/Pages/instruments5.html * alex wrote: > Hi guys, as the love of planes keeps me going, my hobby keeps migrating. I'm currently playing with R/C stuff - Gene, FPV is really cool, and hopefully I'll get there someday. > > Anyway, other then cleaning up my website, I have not been up to much except cleaning out a few boxes here and there and I came across an old airspeed indicator. I am wondering if any the vintage restoration guys can help me identify the age of the instrument and possibly what plane it might have been from. It appears to have the radioactive paint on the numbers / needle. The range is blank until 60MPH and it wraps around just over 1 1/2 times to a maximum speed of 320MPH. > > More details can be found here: > http://www.flyinglow.ca/flyinglow/2008/03/start-of-a-new-dayhhhsite.html > > Thanks, > Alex > http://www.flyinglow.ca > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080306/edd1f26b/attachment.html From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Fri Mar 7 02:43:43 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 10:43:43 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Spitfire In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 6 Mar 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > > oooh... a dedicated woodshop... *drool* piccies dude ! > > > Not done yet. Still missing a few walls and half a floor. :) So... you need a woodshop to build the woodshop. > > You have far too much free time and spare money on your hands. > > Not enough spare time and all the money is gone. :( The EZ Pods are > paying for the wood shop construction material. I've got my SWMBO's left kidney on Ebay ... -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From alex at flyinglow.ca Fri Mar 7 06:29:55 2008 From: alex at flyinglow.ca (=?iso-8859-1?Q?alex?=) Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 08:29:55 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Info on Airspeed indicator Message-ID: <20080307142955.1525.qmail@s412.sureserver.com> > -------Original Message------- > Better yet... > > Lancaster ASI (pg5 ins) > > THIS IS AN AIRSPEED indicator suitable for use in Lancaster panels. > Marked 320 Miles per Hour, a hard to find example in very good condition > A/M 6A/415 Dated 1943 Looks like a perfect match - thanks Ed! And they want $225CDN for theirs. I'll put mine into a safe place for now. Alex From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Mar 7 06:54:07 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 06:54:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Spitfire In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >> Not done yet. Still missing a few walls and half a floor. :) > > So... you need a woodshop to build the woodshop. > Yeah, pretty much. :) The part that will really suck is coming up. Hand mixing 77 60lb bags of concrete for the floor. :) We're going to pour it in three sections across a few weeks so it won't be a deathmarch, but it still won't be any fun. > >>> You have far too much free time and spare money on your hands. >> >> Not enough spare time and all the money is gone. :( The EZ Pods are >> paying for the wood shop construction material. > > I've got my SWMBO's left kidney on Ebay ... > You could try selling the crib midget to the MoD as an "Improvised Annoying Device". :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Fri Mar 7 15:35:28 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 23:35:28 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Spitfire In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 7 Mar 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > > So... you need a woodshop to build the woodshop. > > > Yeah, pretty much. :) The part that will really suck is coming up. Hand > mixing 77 60lb bags of concrete for the floor. :) We're going to pour it > in three sections across a few weeks so it won't be a deathmarch, but it > still won't be any fun. Ack.. that is _never_ a fun job. > You could try selling the crib midget to the MoD as an "Improvised > Annoying Device". :) Nah, I'll keep the rug-rat, the missus can go though :-) -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sean.g at paradise.net.nz Fri Mar 7 21:20:04 2008 From: sean.g at paradise.net.nz (Sean Galbraith) Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 18:20:04 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] Spitfire In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0JXE00286C5KBG40@smtp3.clear.net.nz> > > You could try selling the crib midget to the MoD as an "Improvised > > Annoying Device". :) > >Nah, I'll keep the rug-rat, the missus can go though :-) Brave brave man :) SeanG From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Sat Mar 8 05:07:47 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 13:07:47 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Spitfire In-Reply-To: <0JXE00286C5KBG40@smtp3.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: On Sat, 8 Mar 2008, Sean Galbraith wrote: > > > >Nah, I'll keep the rug-rat, the missus can go though :-) > > Brave brave man :) > please don't tell her I said that ... -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Sat Mar 8 09:07:15 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 09:07:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Spitfire In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >>> >>> Nah, I'll keep the rug-rat, the missus can go though :-) >> >> Brave brave man :) >> > > please don't tell her I said that ... > Hrm. So. What's it worth to you? >:) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Sat Mar 8 12:10:58 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 20:10:58 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Spitfire In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sat, 8 Mar 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >>> > >>> Nah, I'll keep the rug-rat, the missus can go though :-) > >> > >> Brave brave man :) > >> > > > > please don't tell her I said that ... > > > > Hrm. So. What's it worth to you? >:) Why gosh... I'd have to find a new home, maybe in YOUR neck of the woods? Muhahahaaaaa..... -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Sat Mar 8 12:22:29 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 12:22:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Spitfire In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >>>> Brave brave man :) >>>> >>> >>> please don't tell her I said that ... >>> >> >> Hrm. So. What's it worth to you? >:) > > > Why gosh... I'd have to find a new home, maybe in YOUR neck of the woods? > > Cool. I could use a minion! :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Sat Mar 8 16:00:22 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 00:00:22 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Spitfire In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sat, 8 Mar 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >> Hrm. So. What's it worth to you? >:) > > > > Why gosh... I'd have to find a new home, maybe in YOUR neck of the woods? > > > Cool. I could use a minion! :) I ain't mixing no concrete ! -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Sat Mar 8 21:52:03 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 21:52:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Spitfire In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >>>> Hrm. So. What's it worth to you? >:) >>> >>> Why gosh... I'd have to find a new home, maybe in YOUR neck of the woods? >>> >> Cool. I could use a minion! :) > > > I ain't mixing no concrete ! Chicken. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From allendc at qwest.net Sat Mar 8 21:58:06 2008 From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen) Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 22:58:06 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] Spitfire In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20080309055813.F384353BCEB@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net> Well Roy once you get Gene paid off, the others in the Group can still hold you hostage. So just PayPay Gene enough to rent a mixer. David At 09:52 PM 3/8/2008 -0800, you wrote: > >>>> Hrm. So. What's it worth to you? >:) > >>> > >>> Why gosh... I'd have to find a new home, maybe in YOUR neck of the woods? > >>> > >> Cool. I could use a minion! :) > > > > > > I ain't mixing no concrete ! > >Chicken. :) > >g. > >-- >Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 >http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. >_______________________________________________ >Simpits-tech mailing list >Simpits-tech at simpits.org >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the >above page. Thanks! > > >__________ NOD32 2932 (20080309) Information __________ > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >http://www.eset.com From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Sun Mar 9 06:20:01 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 13:20:01 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Spitfire In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sat, 8 Mar 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >>>> Hrm. So. What's it worth to you? >:) > >>> > >>> Why gosh... I'd have to find a new home, maybe in YOUR neck of the woods? > >>> > >> Cool. I could use a minion! :) > > > > > > I ain't mixing no concrete ! > > Chicken. :) No. Smart. You can buy a small electric mixer over here for about $200. A wise investment ! -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Sun Mar 9 06:20:41 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 13:20:41 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Spitfire In-Reply-To: <20080309055813.F384353BCEB@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: On Sat, 8 Mar 2008, David C. Allen wrote: > Well Roy once you get Gene paid off, the others in the Group can > still hold you hostage. So just PayPay Gene enough to rent a mixer. And I used to think you guys were ok... pah ! -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Sun Mar 9 11:01:57 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 11:01:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Spitfire In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > >> Well Roy once you get Gene paid off, the others in the Group can >> still hold you hostage. So just PayPay Gene enough to rent a mixer. > > > And I used to think you guys were ok... pah ! > Muahahahahaha. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From allendc at qwest.net Sun Mar 9 11:26:31 2008 From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen) Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 12:26:31 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Spitfire In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20080309182636.682C853BF59@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net> At 11:01 AM 3/9/2008 -0700, you wrote: > > > >> Well Roy once you get Gene paid off, the others in the Group can > >> still hold you hostage. So just PayPay Gene enough to rent a mixer. > > > > > > And I used to think you guys were ok... pah ! >>Nah, I'll keep the rug-rat, the missus can go though :-) Word on the street is that "the missus" has retained legal council. And that is never a good sign! Again for the slow learners in the group "just PayPay Gene enough to rent a mixer" David From rhommel at mad.scientist.com Sun Mar 9 21:37:26 2008 From: rhommel at mad.scientist.com (Rob Hommel) Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 23:37:26 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Spitfire Message-ID: <20080310043726.126131F50B2@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> Again for the slow learners in the group "just PayPay Gene enough to rent a mixer" I suggested we buy one months ago, did Gene listen to me? If each 60 lb bag makes .6 cubic feet of concrete how many bags do we need to do an area 18 ft X 24 ft 3.5 inches thick? Should we put rebar in it? Use wire net fencing? Find someone crazier than we are to do the work? Keep 'em Flying Rob Hommel -- Want an e-mail address like mine? Get a free e-mail account today at www.mail.com! From sean.g at paradise.net.nz Mon Mar 10 02:29:54 2008 From: sean.g at paradise.net.nz (Sean Galbraith) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:29:54 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] Spitfire In-Reply-To: <20080310043726.126131F50B2@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20080310043726.126131F50B2@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <0JXI009WSD1VHK30@smtp3.clear.net.nz> >Find someone crazier than we are to do the work? Christchurch to San Francisco, via Auckland $826.00 Mastercard San Francisco to Spokane $248.25 Mastercard Rental Car $35/day Mastercard Finding some idiot to fly halfway across the world to mix your damn concrete..... Priceless! There are some things in life money can't buy, for everything else there's Some idiot in Christchurch..... SeanG <= that idiot From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Mar 10 06:52:23 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 06:52:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Spitfire In-Reply-To: <20080310043726.126131F50B2@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20080310043726.126131F50B2@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: > Find someone crazier than we are to do the work? > Is that even possible?! :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Mar 10 06:54:40 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 06:54:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Spitfire In-Reply-To: <0JXI009WSD1VHK30@smtp3.clear.net.nz> References: <20080310043726.126131F50B2@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> <0JXI009WSD1VHK30@smtp3.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: >> Find someone crazier than we are to do the work? > > Christchurch to San Francisco, via Auckland $826.00 Mastercard > San Francisco to Spokane $248.25 Mastercard > Rental Car $35/day Mastercard > > Finding some idiot to fly halfway across the world to mix your damn > concrete..... Priceless! > > There are some things in life money can't buy, for everything else > there's Some idiot in Christchurch..... > *ROFL* You might want to fly into KSEA and avoid the 100+ mile drive. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Mon Mar 10 06:55:24 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:55:24 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Spitfire In-Reply-To: <20080310043726.126131F50B2@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 9 Mar 2008, Rob Hommel wrote: > > > Again for the slow learners in the group "just PayPay Gene enough to > rent a mixer" > > I suggested we buy one months ago, did Gene listen to me? > If each 60 lb bag makes .6 cubic feet of concrete how many bags do we need to do an area 18 ft X 24 ft 3.5 inches thick? > > Should we put rebar in it? > > Use wire net fencing? > > Find someone crazier than we are to do the work? the last option sounds best to me :-) -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Mon Mar 10 06:57:49 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:57:49 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Spitfire In-Reply-To: <0JXI009WSD1VHK30@smtp3.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: On Mon, 10 Mar 2008, Sean Galbraith wrote: LOL!! > > >Find someone crazier than we are to do the work? > > Christchurch to San Francisco, via Auckland $826.00 Mastercard > San Francisco to Spokane $248.25 Mastercard > Rental Car $35/day Mastercard > > Finding some idiot to fly halfway across the world to mix your damn > concrete..... Priceless! > > There are some things in life money can't buy, for everything else > there's Some idiot in Christchurch..... > > > SeanG <= that idiot > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sean.g at paradise.net.nz Mon Mar 10 10:39:36 2008 From: sean.g at paradise.net.nz (Sean Galbraith) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 06:39:36 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] Spitfire In-Reply-To: References: <20080310043726.126131F50B2@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> <0JXI009WSD1VHK30@smtp3.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: <0JXI002V1ZQ2C430@smtp5.clear.net.nz> At 02:54 a.m. 11/03/2008, you wrote: > >> Find someone crazier than we are to do the work? > > > > Christchurch to San Francisco, via Auckland $826.00 Mastercard > > San Francisco to Spokane $248.25 Mastercard > > Rental Car $35/day Mastercard > > > > Finding some idiot to fly halfway across the world to mix your damn > > concrete..... Priceless! > > > > There are some things in life money can't buy, for everything else > > there's Some idiot in Christchurch..... > > >*ROFL* > >You might want to fly into KSEA and avoid the 100+ mile drive. :) Yeah but the flight to Spokane was cheaper..... I may be crazy, but still a Scot at heart :) So there ya go, free concrete mixing service, just costs $2500 in travel SeanG From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Mar 10 10:50:12 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:50:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Spitfire In-Reply-To: <0JXI002V1ZQ2C430@smtp5.clear.net.nz> References: <20080310043726.126131F50B2@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> <0JXI009WSD1VHK30@smtp3.clear.net.nz> <0JXI002V1ZQ2C430@smtp5.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: > Yeah but the flight to Spokane was cheaper..... I may be crazy, but > still a Scot at heart :) > Heheh > So there ya go, free concrete mixing service, just costs $2500 in travel > Yeah, but won't SWMBO get mad at you for spending that kind of money? *gd&r* g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From sean.g at paradise.net.nz Mon Mar 10 19:12:09 2008 From: sean.g at paradise.net.nz (Sean Galbraith) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:12:09 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] Spitfire In-Reply-To: References: <20080310043726.126131F50B2@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> <0JXI009WSD1VHK30@smtp3.clear.net.nz> <0JXI002V1ZQ2C430@smtp5.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: <0JXJ0035GNGDGI40@smtp3.clear.net.nz> > >Yeah, but won't SWMBO get mad at you for spending that kind of money? >*gd&r* Hey what she doesn't know...... What? Yes dear. No, not spending any... what? without asking you? *of course not*....... umm... must go, I have.. umm, something needs attending to... SeanG From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Mar 10 19:51:02 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:51:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Spitfire In-Reply-To: <0JXJ0035GNGDGI40@smtp3.clear.net.nz> References: <20080310043726.126131F50B2@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> <0JXI009WSD1VHK30@smtp3.clear.net.nz> <0JXI002V1ZQ2C430@smtp5.clear.net.nz> <0JXJ0035GNGDGI40@smtp3.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: >> Yeah, but won't SWMBO get mad at you for spending that kind of money? >> *gd&r* > > Hey what she doesn't know...... What? Yes dear. No, not spending > any... what? without asking you? *of course not*....... > > umm... must go, I have.. umm, something needs attending to... > There's a _reason_ SWMBO is accurate. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From sean.g at paradise.net.nz Mon Mar 10 23:16:52 2008 From: sean.g at paradise.net.nz (Sean Galbraith) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:16:52 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] *WAS* Spitfire now TA-4 Sim update In-Reply-To: References: <20080310043726.126131F50B2@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> <0JXI009WSD1VHK30@smtp3.clear.net.nz> <0JXI002V1ZQ2C430@smtp5.clear.net.nz> <0JXJ0035GNGDGI40@smtp3.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: <0JXJ004UUYS8BZ30@smtp4.clear.net.nz> > > > umm... must go, I have.. umm, something needs attending to... > > >There's a _reason_ SWMBO is accurate. :) I can't complain, she gives me pocket money for sim spending Anyway... I had a bit of a win. Been thinking about how to put a harness in the Skyhawk, and have been looking at racecar 4 point jobbies. Yes I know, the skyhawk is meant to fit the standard Navy torso harness/koch fitting setup, but I wanted to be able to strap people in without them having to wear any flightgear. So.. decided a racecar harness was the way to go, AND I managed to buy 2 sets, from an on-line auction here in NZ, for NZD$30 (for the pair!) They are blue, but all the fittings are perfect, so with some new "Item: W9940 YARD - TYPE 9 NYLON WEBBING" from www.paragear.com I think I'll have nice "believable" harnesses for the pit :) SeanG -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080310/48ac11c3/attachment.html From sean.g at paradise.net.nz Tue Mar 11 02:27:32 2008 From: sean.g at paradise.net.nz (Sean Galbraith) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 22:27:32 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] Another TA-4 Sim update In-Reply-To: <0JXJ004UUYS8BZ30@smtp4.clear.net.nz> References: <20080310043726.126131F50B2@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> <0JXI009WSD1VHK30@smtp3.clear.net.nz> <0JXI002V1ZQ2C430@smtp5.clear.net.nz> <0JXJ0035GNGDGI40@smtp3.clear.net.nz> <0JXJ004UUYS8BZ30@smtp4.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: <0JXK00EEF7LXO910@smtp5.clear.net.nz> Some pics this time: http://picasaweb.google.com/NZ6258/TA4KSimulatorCockpit SeanG From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Tue Mar 11 04:02:53 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:02:53 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] *WAS* Spitfire now TA-4 Sim update In-Reply-To: <0JXJ004UUYS8BZ30@smtp4.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: On Tue, 11 Mar 2008, Sean Galbraith wrote: > > > > > > umm... must go, I have.. umm, something needs attending to... > > > > >There's a _reason_ SWMBO is accurate. :) > > I can't complain, she gives me pocket money for sim spending I'll have you know that I wear the trousers in this house. ok, fair enough, the wife picks them out ... -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Mar 11 06:35:52 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 06:35:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] *WAS* Spitfire now TA-4 Sim update In-Reply-To: <0JXJ004UUYS8BZ30@smtp4.clear.net.nz> References: <20080310043726.126131F50B2@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> <0JXI009WSD1VHK30@smtp3.clear.net.nz> <0JXI002V1ZQ2C430@smtp5.clear.net.nz> <0JXJ0035GNGDGI40@smtp3.clear.net.nz> <0JXJ004UUYS8BZ30@smtp4.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: > Skyhawk, and have been looking at racecar 4 point jobbies. Yes I know, the > skyhawk is meant to fit the standard Navy torso harness/koch fitting setup, > but I wanted to be able to strap people in without them having to wear any > flightgear. > > So.. decided a racecar harness was the way to go, AND I managed to buy 2 > sets, from an on-line auction here in NZ, for NZD$30 (for the pair!) They > are blue, but all the fittings are perfect, so with some new "Item: W9940 > YARD - TYPE 9 NYLON WEBBING" from www.paragear.com I think I'll have nice > "believable" harnesses for the pit :) > That's great Sean! Gotta get some helmets then too. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Mar 11 06:39:14 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 06:39:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Another TA-4 Sim update In-Reply-To: <0JXK00EEF7LXO910@smtp5.clear.net.nz> References: <20080310043726.126131F50B2@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> <0JXI009WSD1VHK30@smtp3.clear.net.nz> <0JXI002V1ZQ2C430@smtp5.clear.net.nz> <0JXJ0035GNGDGI40@smtp3.clear.net.nz> <0JXJ004UUYS8BZ30@smtp4.clear.net.nz> <0JXK00EEF7LXO910@smtp5.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: > > http://picasaweb.google.com/NZ6258/TA4KSimulatorCockpit > Very nice! I love the Escapac seats you've built. Very good looking. (well except for the ACES II sticker :) ) Do you have any CAD plans for the seats? g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From sean.g at paradise.net.nz Tue Mar 11 10:00:39 2008 From: sean.g at paradise.net.nz (Sean Galbraith) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 06:00:39 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] Another TA-4 Sim update In-Reply-To: References: <20080310043726.126131F50B2@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> <0JXI009WSD1VHK30@smtp3.clear.net.nz> <0JXI002V1ZQ2C430@smtp5.clear.net.nz> <0JXJ0035GNGDGI40@smtp3.clear.net.nz> <0JXJ004UUYS8BZ30@smtp4.clear.net.nz> <0JXK00EEF7LXO910@smtp5.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: <0JXK003I7SL88B00@smtp4.clear.net.nz> At 02:39 a.m. 12/03/2008, you wrote: > > > > http://picasaweb.google.com/NZ6258/TA4KSimulatorCockpit > > >Very nice! I love the Escapac seats you've built. Very good looking. >(well except for the ACES II sticker :) ) They are Escapac Stickers young Gene, ACES II stickers look a lot like *them*. Remember, same manufacturer :) >Do you have any CAD plans for the seats? No, but I will... I currently have them in Corel Draw (back before I learned autocad), so I need to import them and fix them up. It cuts out of MDF really easily, and looks not too bad ;-) SeanG Oh, and see in the albumn... I do have a hat to wear.. in fact Brent and I (Brent is kinda *my* Rob ) bough a pair of helmets, plus I have a cheap Chinese helmet (you can get 'em on ebay for ..well... cheap) for people who come for rides ;-) From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Mar 11 10:17:19 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:17:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Another TA-4 Sim update In-Reply-To: <0JXK003I7SL88B00@smtp4.clear.net.nz> References: <20080310043726.126131F50B2@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> <0JXI009WSD1VHK30@smtp3.clear.net.nz> <0JXI002V1ZQ2C430@smtp5.clear.net.nz> <0JXJ0035GNGDGI40@smtp3.clear.net.nz> <0JXJ004UUYS8BZ30@smtp4.clear.net.nz> <0JXK00EEF7LXO910@smtp5.clear.net.nz> <0JXK003I7SL88B00@smtp4.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: >>> http://picasaweb.google.com/NZ6258/TA4KSimulatorCockpit >>> >> Very nice! I love the Escapac seats you've built. Very good looking. >> (well except for the ACES II sticker :) ) > > They are Escapac Stickers young Gene, ACES II stickers look > a lot like *them*. Remember, same manufacturer :) > Well excuuuuuuuuuse me! :) >> Do you have any CAD plans for the seats? > > No, but I will... I currently have them in Corel Draw (back before I > learned autocad), so I need to import them and fix them up. It cuts > out of MDF really easily, and looks not too bad ;-) > Ahh, ok. You could just export them as DXF and then load 'em up in AutoCAD. My ShopBot would love to slice out one or two of those. :) > > Oh, and see in the albumn... I do have a hat to wear.. in fact Brent > and I (Brent is kinda *my* Rob ) bough a pair of helmets, plus I > have a cheap Chinese helmet (you can get 'em on ebay for ..well... > cheap) for people who come for rides ;-) > Yeah, but *my* Rob is crazier than yours. So Neah. Ptttht. :) Good catch on the Chinese helmets. Do they make the wearer want to get unconfortably close to any Lockheed Electra based airframes in the area? :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From sean.g at paradise.net.nz Tue Mar 11 10:40:22 2008 From: sean.g at paradise.net.nz (Sean Galbraith) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 06:40:22 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] Another TA-4 Sim update In-Reply-To: References: <20080310043726.126131F50B2@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> <0JXI009WSD1VHK30@smtp3.clear.net.nz> <0JXI002V1ZQ2C430@smtp5.clear.net.nz> <0JXJ0035GNGDGI40@smtp3.clear.net.nz> <0JXJ004UUYS8BZ30@smtp4.clear.net.nz> <0JXK00EEF7LXO910@smtp5.clear.net.nz> <0JXK003I7SL88B00@smtp4.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: <0JXK00H51UFF2310@smtp3.clear.net.nz> > > > >Ahh, ok. You could just export them as DXF and then load 'em up in >AutoCAD. My ShopBot would love to slice out one or two of those. :) Sadly the drawings in Corel are more... sketchy than sketch... I think I'll re-draw them :) Shotbot would be easier than the way I made them Maybe if I roll back time you could make them for me and save me the heart ache? > > Oh, and see in the albumn... I do have a hat to wear.. in fact Brent > > and I (Brent is kinda *my* Rob ) bough a pair of helmets, plus I > > have a cheap Chinese helmet (you can get 'em on ebay for ..well... > > cheap) for people who come for rides ;-) > > >Yeah, but *my* Rob is crazier than yours. So Neah. Ptttht. :) Wanna bet? Tell you what, when you come down here for a tour of the factory I'll introduce you, and let you decide. Ok? >Good catch on the Chinese helmets. Do they make the wearer want to get >unconfortably close to any Lockheed Electra based airframes in the area? >:) Yeah, they are a great cheap helmet, but I didn't want to risk any "Electra" incidents, so I stuck a 75 Sqn sticker over the Red Star... seems to have fixed the problem ;-) SeanG From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Mar 11 13:59:15 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:59:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Another TA-4 Sim update In-Reply-To: <0JXK00H51UFF2310@smtp3.clear.net.nz> References: <20080310043726.126131F50B2@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> <0JXI009WSD1VHK30@smtp3.clear.net.nz> <0JXI002V1ZQ2C430@smtp5.clear.net.nz> <0JXJ0035GNGDGI40@smtp3.clear.net.nz> <0JXJ004UUYS8BZ30@smtp4.clear.net.nz> <0JXK00EEF7LXO910@smtp5.clear.net.nz> <0JXK003I7SL88B00@smtp4.clear.net.nz> <0JXK00H51UFF2310@smtp3.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: >> Ahh, ok. You could just export them as DXF and then load 'em up in >> AutoCAD. My ShopBot would love to slice out one or two of those. :) > > Sadly the drawings in Corel are more... sketchy than sketch... I > think I'll re-draw them :) > Shotbot would be easier than the way I made them Maybe if I > roll back time you could make them for me and save me the heart ache? > Well crank up your way-back machine and I'll get on it. :) Seriously though, if you're up for it I'd love to get some of those drawings from you. I've got some hard-won Inventor modelling skillz I've been working with lately. A buildable 3D model of an Escapac (A-7?) seat would be a neat project for the Simpits gang. It would kind of like Chris Van Lierop's F-16 ACES II seat, but more easily built by someone with common tools. There's a "tile print" program out there that lets you print out huge drawings in 8.5x11 sections made to tape together. Pretty handy for full size patterns if you don't have a D or E size plotter or a neighbor with a ShopBot. :) >> Yeah, but *my* Rob is crazier than yours. So Neah. Ptttht. :) > > Wanna bet? Tell you what, when you come down here for a tour of the > factory I'll introduce you, and let you decide. Ok? > Mine was hanging upside down in a cave when we first landed on the moon. Was yours even _born_ yet? *laughs* Mine has that whole "old age and treachery" thing down pat. Oh. Hi Rob! *runs* >> Good catch on the Chinese helmets. Do they make the wearer want to get >> unconfortably close to any Lockheed Electra based airframes in the area? >> :) > > Yeah, they are a great cheap helmet, but I didn't want to risk any > "Electra" incidents, so I stuck a 75 Sqn sticker over the Red Star... > seems to have fixed the problem ;-) Oh sure, blind the poor helmet. Jeeze. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From rhommel at mad.scientist.com Tue Mar 11 16:08:02 2008 From: rhommel at mad.scientist.com (Rob Hommel) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:08:02 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Another TA-4 Sim update Message-ID: <20080311230814.09947478092@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> > > > Yeah, but *my* Rob is crazier than yours. So Neah. Ptttht. :) Wanna bet? Tell you what, when you come down here for a tour of the factory I'll introduce you, and let you decide. Ok? Sean: If and when we have a get together here in the Pacific NorthWest you will have to bring "your" Brent along. Two crazy people in the group should make for fireworks. BTW, does Brent know anything about building a small nuclear reactor, from scratch? PS We can't let Genes wife know. Keep 'em Flying Rob Hommel -- Want an e-mail address like mine? Get a free e-mail account today at www.mail.com! From rhommel at mad.scientist.com Tue Mar 11 17:15:32 2008 From: rhommel at mad.scientist.com (Rob Hommel) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:15:32 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] You know you want to... Message-ID: <20080312001532.D3715478093@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> You want to watch, don't look away. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0QywAeEtNM Keep 'em Flying Rob Hommel -- Want an e-mail address like mine? Get a free e-mail account today at www.mail.com! From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Mar 11 17:38:32 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:38:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Another TA-4 Sim update In-Reply-To: <20080311230814.09947478092@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20080311230814.09947478092@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: > > Sean: > > If and when we have a get together here in the Pacific NorthWest you will have to > bring "your" Brent along. Two crazy people in the group should make for fireworks. > BTW, does Brent know anything about building a small nuclear reactor, from scratch? > PS We can't let Genes wife know. > ..which reminds me. Anyone know where I could get a few kilos of uranium and about a ton of graphite? *huge grin* g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From rhommel at mad.scientist.com Tue Mar 11 17:47:31 2008 From: rhommel at mad.scientist.com (Rob Hommel) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:47:31 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Another TA-4 Sim update Message-ID: <20080312004731.95183478092@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> > Sean: > ..which reminds me. Anyone know where I could get a few kilos of uranium And to think this is just to heat the new wood shop. grin The things that I have to go through. BTW The University of Washington has shut down their reactor, wonder if I could convince them, maybe if I just ask nicely. Who knows it's worked for us before. Keep 'em Flying Rob Hommel -- Want an e-mail address like mine? Get a free e-mail account today at www.mail.com! From bass.pumped at gmail.com Tue Mar 11 18:46:19 2008 From: bass.pumped at gmail.com (bass pumped) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:46:19 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] You know you want to... In-Reply-To: <20080312001532.D3715478093@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20080312001532.D3715478093@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: Hey guys, just some ideas on what to do the next time you get dragged to the store to do some "necessary" shopping! This is why women should not take men shopping against their will. After Mr. And Mrs. Fenton retired, Mrs. Fenton insisted her husband accompany her on her trips to Wal-Mart. Unfortunately, Mr. Fenton was like most men--he found shopping boring and preferred to get in and get out. Equally unfortunately, Mrs. Fenton was like most women--she loved to browse. One day Mrs. Fenton received the following letter from her local Wal-Mart. Dear Mrs. Fenton, Over the past six months, your husband has been causing quite a commotion in our store. We cannot tolerate this behavior and may be forced to ban both of you from the store. Our complaints against Mr. Fenton are listed below and are documented by our video surveillance cameras. 1. June 15: Took 24 boxes of condoms and randomly put them in people's carts when they weren't looking. 2 . July 2: Set all the alarm clocks in Housewares to go off at 5-minute intervals. 3. July 7: Made a trail of tomato juice on the floor leading to the women's restroom. 4. July 19: Walked up to an employee and told her in an official voice, 'Code 3 in Housewares. Get on it right away.' 5. August 4: Went to the Service Desk and tried to put a bag of M&M's on layaway. 6. September 14: Moved a 'CAUTION - WET FLOOR' sign to a carpeted area. 7. September 15: Set up a tent in the camping department and told other shoppers he'd invite them in if they would bring pillows and blankets from the bedding department 8. September 23: When a clerk asked if they could help him he began crying and screamed, 'Why can't you people just leave me alone?' 9. October 4: Looked right into the security camera and used it as a mirror while he picked his nose. 10 November 10: While handling guns in the hunting department, he asked the clerk where the antidepressants were. 11. December 3: Darted around the store suspiciously while loudly humming the ' Mission Impossible' theme. 12. December 6: In the auto department, he practiced his 'Madonna look' by using different sizes of funnels. 13. December 18: Hid in a clothing rack and when people browsed through, yelled 'PICK ME! PICK ME!' 14. December 21: When an announcement came over the loud speaker, he assumed a fetal position and screamed 'OH NO! IT'S THOSE VOICES AGAIN!' And last, but not least... 15.. December 23: Went into a fitting room, shut the door, waited awhile, then yelled very loudly, 'Hey! There's no toilet paper in here!' Regards, Walmart On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 7:15 PM, Rob Hommel wrote: > You want to watch, don't look away. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0QywAeEtNM > > Keep 'em Flying > Rob Hommel > > -- > Want an e-mail address like mine? > Get a free e-mail account today at www.mail.com! > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > From mcollins at null.net Tue Mar 11 19:31:41 2008 From: mcollins at null.net (Mark Collins) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:31:41 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] You know you want to... In-Reply-To: <20080312001532.D3715478093@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: Rob, That was great. Lots of really cool dogfight vids there. I stumbled on this one...it's just too funny! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4elJT8y1F_M&feature=related Mark -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org]On Behalf Of Rob Hommel Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 7:16 PM To: Simulator Cockpit tech list Subject: [simpits-tech] You know you want to... You want to watch, don't look away. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0QywAeEtNM Keep 'em Flying Rob Hommel -- Want an e-mail address like mine? Get a free e-mail account today at www.mail.com! _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From sean.g at paradise.net.nz Wed Mar 12 03:31:52 2008 From: sean.g at paradise.net.nz (Sean Galbraith) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:31:52 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] Another TA-4 Sim update In-Reply-To: <20080311230814.09947478092@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20080311230814.09947478092@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <0JXM007QT597VR10@smtp4.clear.net.nz> >If and when we have a get together here in the Pacific NorthWest you >will have to >bring "your" Brent along. Two crazy people in the group should make >for fireworks. >BTW, does Brent know anything about building a small nuclear >reactor, from scratch? Does he need to know anything about it? Can't we just show him some plans, hand him a lead lined suit and hope for the best? >PS We can't let Genes wife know. Teeheehee.. I like secrets ;-) SeanG From rhommel at mad.scientist.com Wed Mar 12 11:01:01 2008 From: rhommel at mad.scientist.com (Rob Hommel) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:01:01 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Another TA-4 Sim update Message-ID: <20080312180102.C4E421CE7C1@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> Does he need to know anything about it? Can't we just show him some plans, hand him a lead lined suit and hope for the best? Hey I like that idea, last time Gene gave me the plans to something he had drawn three lines on a sheet of paper and said, "Make it like that". Hanford has a great deal of unused material going to waste. And they are leaving it sitting around outside. Hmmm... I saw where Hitachi is making small reactors for personal use, good for twenty years of use. Just bury it in the ground add a power cable to your home or apartment building and your ready to go. The Navy should have a couple of spent reactors available from Bremmerton, military surplus AMARC, the ebay of the US government. hehe Satsop Washington has a couple of large unused cooling towers for a nuclear reactors which were never completed. The only problem is transportation, how do I get them to Graham? I still think a space heater would be less work. Why we would want to heat space is beyond my pay grade however. Keep 'em Flying Rob Hommel -- Want an e-mail address like mine? Get a free e-mail account today at www.mail.com! From cyplesma at aol.com Wed Mar 12 11:42:44 2008 From: cyplesma at aol.com (cyplesma at aol.com) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:42:44 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] Another TA-4 Sim update In-Reply-To: <20080312180102.C4E421CE7C1@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20080312180102.C4E421CE7C1@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <8CA5287FEBF44CE-CD0-EBA@webmail-md11.sysops.aol.com> moving cooling towers --- couldn't you just lay them on their side and roll'em hehe -----Original Message----- From: Rob Hommel To: Simulator Cockpit tech list Sent: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 2:01 pm Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Another TA-4 Sim update Does he need to know anything about it? Can't we just show him some plans, hand him a lead lined suit and hope for the best? Hey I like that idea, last time Gene gave me the plans to something he had drawn three lines on a sheet of paper and said, "Make it like that". Hanford has a great deal of unused material going to waste. And they are leaving it sitting around outside. Hmmm... I saw where Hitachi is making small reactors for personal use, good for twenty years of use. Just bury it in the ground add a power cable to your home or apartment building and your ready to go. The Navy should have a couple of spent reactors available from Bremmerton, military surplus AMARC, the ebay of the US government. hehe Satsop Washington has a couple of large unused cooling towers for a nuclear reactors which were never completed. The only problem is transportation, how do I get them to Graham? I still think a space heater would be less work. Why we would want to heat space is beyond my pay grade however. Keep 'em Flying Rob Hommel -- Want an e-mail address like mine? Get a free e-mail account today at www.mail.com! _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080312/cc391734/attachment.html From crease-guard at sbcglobal.net Fri Mar 14 05:45:13 2008 From: crease-guard at sbcglobal.net (Joseph Fagner) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 07:45:13 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] New Web Store In-Reply-To: <8CA5287FEBF44CE-CD0-EBA@webmail-md11.sysops.aol.com> References: <20080312180102.C4E421CE7C1@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> <8CA5287FEBF44CE-CD0-EBA@webmail-md11.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <00e701c885d1$3f8132f0$0202fea9@flightsystems> Opened up a new web store for simmers. Mostly F-16 stuff, but there might be a few items others find useful. http://store.flightsystemsltd.com Jay -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Sun Mar 16 21:53:25 2008 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:53:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] anyone else see this Voodo? Message-ID: <331921.13193.qm@web52005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/F-101-Fighter-Jet-Cockpit-Business-For-Sale-and-WebSite_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ63678QQihZ008QQitemZ180221810386QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080316/25b611fb/attachment.html From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Sun Mar 16 22:11:49 2008 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Am I the only one with this pot issue??? (you know what I mean!) Message-ID: <984623.19039.qm@web52002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> A second glance and I could see where that subject description was heading... At any rate, It doesnt seem to matter what board I use, the first 4 pots are easy to set up, add any more I have crazy issues. On the EPIC it showed that all of the pots were sending signal to EPIC and that EPIC was sending a signal to the pc, even the game port controller showed every thing was fine. But then in FS9 and in FSUIPC it showed that 2 of the pots were not there. That left me with no tiller or left toe brake. On the Plasma 2 I hooked 2 pots for stick axis and 2 for throttles, work great! add a 5th pot for rudderpedals and the left throttle starts running the right throttle! err!!!! has anyone else noticed that just running 4 pots on a board seems to be less hassle and to be more dependable? Ive had the same issue with other boards too. Or is it just me? Justin --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080316/a2093306/attachment.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Mar 17 07:18:04 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 07:18:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] anyone else see this Voodo? In-Reply-To: <331921.13193.qm@web52005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <331921.13193.qm@web52005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/F-101-Fighter-Jet-Cockpit-Business-For-Sale-and-WebSite_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ63678QQihZ008QQitemZ180221810386QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW Not too bad. Price is kinda high though. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Mar 17 07:20:22 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 07:20:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Am I the only one with this pot issue??? (you know what I mean!) In-Reply-To: <984623.19039.qm@web52002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <984623.19039.qm@web52002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > It doesnt seem to matter what board I use, the first 4 pots are easy to > set up, add any more I have crazy issues. On the EPIC it showed that all > of the pots were sending signal to EPIC and that EPIC was sending a > signal to the pc, even the game port controller showed every thing was > fine. But then in FS9 and in FSUIPC it showed that 2 of the pots were > not there. That left me with no tiller or left toe brake. > On the Plasma 2 I hooked 2 pots for stick axis and 2 for throttles, > work great! add a 5th pot for rudderpedals and the left throttle starts > running the right throttle! err!!!! has anyone else noticed that just > running 4 pots on a board seems to be less hassle and to be more > dependable? Ive had the same issue with other boards too. Or is it just > me? > Justin, that looks to me like more of a software issue than a hardware problem. If you're seeing the axes correctly in the joystick "calibration" screen in windows, then you're likely looking at some kind of failure or configuration problem in FSUIPC/FS g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From crease-guard at sbcglobal.net Mon Mar 17 12:03:11 2008 From: crease-guard at sbcglobal.net (Joseph Fagner) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:03:11 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Am I the only one with this pot issue??? (you know what I mean!) In-Reply-To: References: <984623.19039.qm@web52002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <009001c88861$8c08c790$0301a8c0@flightsystems> > It doesnt seem to matter what board I use, the first 4 pots are easy to > set up, add any more I have crazy issues. On the EPIC it showed that all > of the pots were sending signal to EPIC and that EPIC was sending a > signal to the pc, even the game port controller showed every thing was > fine. But then in FS9 and in FSUIPC it showed that 2 of the pots were > not there. That left me with no tiller or left toe brake. > On the Plasma 2 I hooked 2 pots for stick axis and 2 for throttles, > work great! add a 5th pot for rudderpedals and the left throttle starts > running the right throttle! err!!!! has anyone else noticed that just > running 4 pots on a board seems to be less hassle and to be more > dependable? Ive had the same issue with other boards too. Or is it just > me? > Justin, that looks to me like more of a software issue than a hardware problem. If you're seeing the axes correctly in the joystick "calibration" screen in windows, then you're likely looking at some kind of failure or configuration problem in FSUIPC/FS g. I have to agree with g. on this one. If you are using different hardware and the SAME problem keeps occurring, it's not the hardware. That's a software issue. Either windows is porked or you FS software is. Jay -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Tue Mar 18 10:15:18 2008 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 10:15:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Tulsa Aviation Museum needs help with FSX kiosk Message-ID: <603860.14041.qm@web52006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Has anybody here played with the FSX kiosk? The Museum contacted me for help with their new little generic F-14 sim.(Ive seen it but they wouldnt let me take pics at the time) Here is what they emailed, "We are creating our flights in FSX, saving them and then loading them into the kiosk mode. When we open them in kiosk our changes of aircraft color, carrier vs. airport are not saved." I havent found any info on customizing the kiosk mode. I had thought you had to use missions. Any help would be great. Justin --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080318/80353597/attachment.html From alex at flyinglow.ca Wed Mar 19 19:31:40 2008 From: alex at flyinglow.ca (=?iso-8859-1?Q?alex?=) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 20:31:40 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] MCC838 - Obscure decade counter chip Message-ID: <20080320023140.9967.qmail@s412.sureserver.com> I'm trying to build a binary clock with some surplus digital logic chips I have laying around. The chip of choice it seems would be the 7490, of which I have 1 that works properly and 1 that seems to only work if I leave it in the default mode of counting from 0 to 9. I also have a number of chips stamped with MCC838, which turns out to be a decade counter like the 7490. The main exception is the 838 has 4 inputs to explicitly set the bits with and a single reset line. I need to configure 3 counters to reset after reaching 5 (on 6 reset to 0). With the 7490, just tie the second bit to one reset and the third bit to the other reset and assuming the chip works, it counts 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 0, .... Studying the spec sheet (http://www.datasheetarchive.com/pdf/2291586.pdf) I could find on the MC838 leads me to believe that by using a NAND gate on bits 2 & 3 the result should nicely drive the CD (reset?) line from High-to-Low and hence reset the counter back to 0. However, that is not what is happening. Hear is the observed output: 1 2 4 8 NAND 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 0 1 - at this point, the next clock should create 0110 (6) and the NAND goes low (0) which should reset the 838 counter and start over. However, the counter just skips 6 & 7 and carries on with 8 as follows... 0 0 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 Any ideas? Alex http://www.flyinglow.ca From realclassclown at yahoo.com Thu Mar 20 08:26:33 2008 From: realclassclown at yahoo.com (Alan Murray) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:26:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] MCC838 - Obscure decade counter chip In-Reply-To: <20080320023140.9967.qmail@s412.sureserver.com> Message-ID: <807752.91526.qm@web52706.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hello Alex, A proper truth table in the Motorola documentation would really help. Specifically the Q4(not) ties back to the second gate input. When your reset drives that high, the 2nd gate (essentially a NOR) correctly drives Q2 and subsequently Q3 low which gives you the output you are getting... What does the counter do without the NAND gate in the circuit? Same thing right? It is a decade counter, so it seems to be set up in a divide-by-5 and a divide-by-2. Think of it as the counter is counting to 5 and then setting the MSB high (Q4) and then it counts to 5 again and sets it back to 0. That is what it should be doing. If it does, you will not need your NAND gate if it rolls over on five by itself. Try it and let us know...and try putting your truth table in this order Q4 Q3 Q2 Q1 instead of the other way around...;) Alan --- alex wrote: > I'm trying to build a binary clock with some surplus > digital logic chips I have laying around. The chip > of choice it seems would be the 7490, of which I > have 1 that works properly and 1 that seems to only > work if I leave it in the default mode of counting > from 0 to 9. I also have a number of chips stamped > with MCC838, which turns out to be a decade counter > like the 7490. > > The main exception is the 838 has 4 inputs to > explicitly set the bits with and a single reset > line. I need to configure 3 counters to reset after > reaching 5 (on 6 reset to 0). With the 7490, just > tie the second bit to one reset and the third bit to > the other reset and assuming the chip works, it > counts 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 0, .... > > Studying the spec sheet > (http://www.datasheetarchive.com/pdf/2291586.pdf) I > could find on the MC838 leads me to believe that by > using a NAND gate on bits 2 & 3 the result should > nicely drive the CD (reset?) line from High-to-Low > and hence reset the counter back to 0. However, that > is not what is happening. Hear is the observed > output: > > 1 2 4 8 NAND > 0 0 0 0 1 > 1 0 0 0 1 > 0 1 0 0 1 > 1 1 0 0 1 > 0 0 1 0 1 > 1 0 1 0 1 > > - at this point, the next clock should create 0110 > (6) and the NAND goes low (0) which should reset the > 838 counter and start over. However, the counter > just skips 6 & 7 and carries on with 8 as follows... > > 0 0 0 1 1 > 1 0 0 1 1 > 0 0 0 0 1 > > Any ideas? > > Alex > http://www.flyinglow.ca > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the > bottom of the above page. Thanks! > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From alex at flyinglow.ca Thu Mar 20 09:33:01 2008 From: alex at flyinglow.ca (=?iso-8859-1?Q?alex?=) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:33:01 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] MCC838 - Obscure decade counter chip Message-ID: <20080320163301.19927.qmail@s412.sureserver.com> > -------Original Message------- > From: Alan Murray > A proper truth table in the Motorola documentation > would really help. You're not kidding. > Specifically the Q4(not) ties back > to the second gate input. When your reset drives that > high, the 2nd gate (essentially a NOR) correctly > drives Q2 and subsequently Q3 low which gives you the > output you are getting... > What does the counter do without the NAND gate in the > circuit? Same thing right? Actually, no. If the Cd line is left High (No NAND gate), then Q4-Q1 counts 0000, 0001, 0010... 1000, 1001 (0-9). And in 2 places where I need the full decade counter this configuration is currently working as I need. Somewhere I found a snipit of text (buried in a patent application I believe), that claims that if SD4-SD1 are high, then driving CD High to Low should reset the counter. If CD is Low, then driving any of SD4-SD1 High to Low will cause the corresponding Q4-Q1 to go High. But without the proper truth table even better verbage from Motorola, this little critter is turning out to be quite the little black box. Alex From alex at flyinglow.ca Thu Mar 20 11:24:33 2008 From: alex at flyinglow.ca (=?iso-8859-1?Q?alex?=) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:24:33 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] MCC838 - Obscure decade counter chip Message-ID: <20080320182433.25063.qmail@s412.sureserver.com> Alex http://www.flyinglow.ca (Missed the group on my reply - not sure if this might benefit anyone else) > -------Original Message------- > From: Alan Murray > Try putting a count on the chip (say 101), then remove > the clock leaving the count static..next apply a LOW > to the reset line without going through the NAND (take > measure of output) then send the reset high again > (take measure again)...do you end up with 101? I'm > wondering if CD turns out to be an inhibit line of > some kind. Count inhibit (maybe), output inhibit (no > mention of tri-state)... Ok. Will try that this weekend (schedule it too full to look at it tonight). > Something about it doesn't make sense..how do you have > the presets (SD1 etc.) configured? I will have to double check, but I believe I have the presets set High (or they may be open - I could be wrong, but my gut feeling is that it didn't seem to matter). > Motorola scrapped these things for a reason...;) > How many do you have? 4 or 5. 2 are wired in already as they work for counting to 10 (0-9). The other 2 will only be used if I can figure out how to change the count. I actually have a lead on a bunch of free 7490's, so this may turn out to be an academic excercise. > I wonder if there is a timing issue, something with > propagation delay through the NAND while the clock > triggers...you might try gating the outputs through > flip-flops to align the clock edge with the input > edge..your count may go off by one cycle or may synch > but you would learn something either way. Thanks for the tips. > Good luck, > Alan > > > --- alex wrote: > > > >??-------Original Message------- > > >??From: Alan Murray > > > > >??A proper truth table in the Motorola > > documentation > > >??would really help. > > > > You're not kidding. > > > > >??Specifically the Q4(not) ties back > > >??to the second gate input. When your reset drives > > that > > >??high, the 2nd gate (essentially a NOR) correctly > > >??drives Q2 and subsequently Q3 low which gives you > > the > > >??output you are getting... > > > > >??What does the counter do without the NAND gate in > > the > > >??circuit? Same thing right? > > > > Actually, no. If the Cd line is left High (No NAND > > gate), then Q4-Q1 counts 0000, 0001, 0010... 1000, > > 1001 (0-9). And in 2 places where I need the full > > decade counter this configuration is currently > > working as I need. > > > > Somewhere I found a snipit of text (buried in a > > patent application I believe), that claims that if > > SD4-SD1 are high, then driving CD High to Low should > > reset the counter. If CD is Low, then driving any of > > SD4-SD1 High to Low will cause the corresponding > > Q4-Q1 to go High. But without the proper truth table > > even better verbage from Motorola, this little > > critter is turning out to be quite the little black > > box. > > > > Alex > > > > > > ??????____________________________________________________________________________________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile.??Try it now.??http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Mar 21 09:07:57 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:07:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] HAL.... Message-ID: http://www.joyoftech.com/joyoftech/joyimages/1085.jpg g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From adm.design at verizon.net Sat Mar 22 11:38:26 2008 From: adm.design at verizon.net (Alan D. Mazurka) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 14:38:26 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] HAL.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0JY500GP8AGP0T9B@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> hi, yes, he was the greatest. after seeing 2001 as a kid, i read every book authored by him in the library. i really enjoyed how he described the hardware of outer space, and the way he injected technical stuff into his stories. he could step very far outside the envelope of common thought, look back at us, then provide unusual commentary that wisdom only produces. he's left us with a large amount of gifts to enjoy. enjoy a few. - adm - At 12:07 PM 3/21/2008, you wrote: >http://www.joyoftech.com/joyoftech/joyimages/1085.jpg > >g. > >-- >Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 >http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. >_______________________________________________ >Simpits-tech mailing list >Simpits-tech at simpits.org >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the >above page. Thanks! ---------- Alan D. Mazurka adm.design at verizon.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080322/3e106d2f/attachment.html From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Sat Mar 22 13:47:31 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 20:47:31 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] HAL.... In-Reply-To: <0JY500GP8AGP0T9B@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: On Sat, 22 Mar 2008, Alan D. Mazurka wrote: > hi, > > yes, he was the greatest. > > after seeing 2001 as a kid, i read every book authored by him in the library. > > i really enjoyed how he described the hardware of outer space, and > the way he injected technical stuff into his stories. > > he could step very far outside the envelope of common thought, look > back at us, then provide unusual commentary that wisdom only produces. > > he's left us with a large amount of gifts to enjoy. enjoy a few. > Yup. He's credited with inventing the comms satellite too. A smart arse if ever there was one. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Mon Mar 24 06:22:35 2008 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 06:22:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] controling a 28v circuit with a 5v Message-ID: <879371.32781.qm@web52007.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I am using the Simkits multi-controller and have been playing with the 5v LED outputs. The LEDs are cool, (got the marker lights working last night) but I got to thinking, it would be great to use those signals to toggle my 28v bulbs. There are a couple of places where LED wont work in my sim. But this exposes my lack of electronic knowledge so my question is, what would be the simplest way to toggle a 28v DC circuit with a 5v 20mA DC circuit? Justin --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080324/cc12bbe9/attachment.html From bjones at pipecomp.com.au Mon Mar 24 06:28:17 2008 From: bjones at pipecomp.com.au (Ben Jones) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 22:28:17 +0900 Subject: [simpits-tech] controling a 28v circuit with a 5v References: <879371.32781.qm@web52007.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <008e01c88db2$ebee57a0$3d00a8c0@bjblackbox> 5v DC Relay that then switches 28 volts through the contacts. Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: Justin Messenger To: Simpits Tech Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 10:22 PM Subject: [simpits-tech] controling a 28v circuit with a 5v I am using the Simkits multi-controller and have been playing with the 5v LED outputs. The LEDs are cool, (got the marker lights working last night) but I got to thinking, it would be great to use those signals to toggle my 28v bulbs. There are a couple of places where LED wont work in my sim. But this exposes my lack of electronic knowledge so my question is, what would be the simplest way to toggle a 28v DC circuit with a 5v 20mA DC circuit? Justin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080324/20e5f6fa/attachment.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Mar 24 06:49:51 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 06:49:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] controling a 28v circuit with a 5v In-Reply-To: <879371.32781.qm@web52007.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <879371.32781.qm@web52007.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > But this exposes my lack of electronic knowledge so my question is, > what would be the simplest way to toggle a 28v DC circuit with a 5v > 20mA DC circuit? Use a transistor. If you didn't know already, a transistor is nothing more than a fancy electronic switch. What you can do is use the 5v to "bias" the transistor, turning the switch "on". The transistor has three legs to it. They're called base, emitter and collector. Connect the base to your 5v source, the 28v source gets connected to the collector and you connect your lamp to the emitter. You want to use an NPN transistor for this as the transistor turns "on" when the base is pulled "high" relative to the emitter. (PNP would require exactly the opposite, which you could use, but you'd have to have an inverter inserted between your +5v from the Simkits output and the PNP transistor) You want to use a transistor with a TO-220 package style - these are commonly used for the exact purpose you're going to use them for. This is what they look like: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:TO-220_Front_Coloured.svg You'll want to find one that can handle the 28V input voltage as well as the load in amps you expect to place on it. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Mar 24 06:50:42 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 06:50:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] controling a 28v circuit with a 5v In-Reply-To: <008e01c88db2$ebee57a0$3d00a8c0@bjblackbox> References: <879371.32781.qm@web52007.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <008e01c88db2$ebee57a0$3d00a8c0@bjblackbox> Message-ID: > 5v DC Relay that then switches 28 volts through the contacts. Ben, he's only got 20mA to work with. A relay would require a lot more than that to energize the coil to close the relay. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From mi.hi at gmx.net Mon Mar 24 06:50:43 2008 From: mi.hi at gmx.net (Michael Hirczy) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:50:43 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] controling a 28v circuit with a 5v In-Reply-To: <879371.32781.qm@web52007.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <879371.32781.qm@web52007.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <47E7B1B3.3040904@gmx.net> Justin Messenger wrote: > I am using the Simkits multi-controller and have been playing with the > 5v LED outputs. The LEDs are cool, (got the marker lights working last > night) but I got to thinking, it would be great to use those signals to > toggle my 28v bulbs. There are a couple of places where LED wont work > in my sim. > > But this exposes my lack of electronic knowledge so my question is, > what would be the simplest way to toggle a 28v DC circuit with a 5v 20mA > DC circuit? I'm using "normal" optocouplers to control my magnetic switches (12V) with my LED-controlling MM5451 chip. greetings michi From bjones at pipecomp.com.au Mon Mar 24 06:58:14 2008 From: bjones at pipecomp.com.au (Ben Jones) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 22:58:14 +0900 Subject: [simpits-tech] controling a 28v circuit with a 5v References: <879371.32781.qm@web52007.mail.re2.yahoo.com><008e01c88db2$ebee57a0$3d00a8c0@bjblackbox> Message-ID: <009901c88db7$1b31a8b0$3d00a8c0@bjblackbox> I'll check the ones i have at work on the shelf. there 5 voltdc and next to no current draw. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Buckle" To: "Simulator Cockpit tech list" Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 10:50 PM Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] controling a 28v circuit with a 5v >> 5v DC Relay that then switches 28 volts through the contacts. > > Ben, he's only got 20mA to work with. A relay would require a lot more > than that to energize the coil to close the relay. > > g. > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Mar 24 07:17:26 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 07:17:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] controling a 28v circuit with a 5v In-Reply-To: <009901c88db7$1b31a8b0$3d00a8c0@bjblackbox> References: <879371.32781.qm@web52007.mail.re2.yahoo.com><008e01c88db2$ebee57a0$3d00a8c0@bjblackbox> <009901c88db7$1b31a8b0$3d00a8c0@bjblackbox> Message-ID: > I'll check the ones i have at work on the shelf. there 5 voltdc and next to > no current draw. They're likely in the 100mA range. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From phoenixcomm at gmail.com Mon Mar 24 07:53:49 2008 From: phoenixcomm at gmail.com (Cris Harrison) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 09:53:49 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] controling a 28v circuit with a 5v In-Reply-To: <879371.32781.qm@web52007.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <879371.32781.qm@web52007.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: yes you could run a realy?! DU if the bulbs are re-lampable then just change the stupid lamps! Cris On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 8:22 AM, Justin Messenger wrote: > I am using the Simkits multi-controller and have been playing with the 5v > LED outputs. The LEDs are cool, (got the marker lights working last night) > but I got to thinking, it would be great to use those signals to toggle my > 28v bulbs. There are a couple of places where LED wont work in my sim. > > But this exposes my lack of electronic knowledge so my question is, > what would be the simplest way to toggle a 28v DC circuit with a 5v 20mA DC > circuit? > > Justin > > ________________________________ > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Mon Mar 24 08:21:36 2008 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 08:21:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] controling a 28v circuit with a 5v In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <399971.96888.qm@web52011.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I thought about that and would be happy to go that route, but as Gene said Im not sure if using only 20mA for the 5V would work well. As far as changing lamps goes, I want to control my landing gear indicators, they are 28v but are not lamps. However, If I get them to work then the same system would also work to control the 28v lamp that I also want to function (gear transition light). This is a real sim and all the lamps are 28v and I have power going to them. I dont really want to modify them if I dont have to due to common grounding. yes you could run a realy?! DU if the bulbs are re-lampable then just change the stupid lamps! Cris Aviation Videos http://HeritageAviationVideos.fly.to/ DC-8 Simulator www.dc8cockpit.catisp.com F-4 Simulators www.Phantom.highspeedzone.com --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080324/55538522/attachment.html From allendc at qwest.net Mon Mar 24 09:38:57 2008 From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 10:38:57 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] controling a 28v circuit with a 5v In-Reply-To: References: <879371.32781.qm@web52007.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20080324163658.54EF5621F42@mpls-qmqp-03.inet.qwest.net> I used 5v low current relays to isolate and control the 28volt lamps. I built this little circuit board to control the landing gear lamps for a friends sim. http://www.737flightsim.com/Misc/relay7.JPG It uses relays I purchased on ebay and is controlled by a Go-Flight Landing Gear module. I think I paid $5.00USD for 20 relays. David www.737FlightSim.com From allendc at qwest.net Mon Mar 24 10:27:08 2008 From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 11:27:08 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] controling a 28v circuit with a 5v In-Reply-To: References: <879371.32781.qm@web52007.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20080324172516.02B4453BE61@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net> While I like Genes transistor solution, you must commingle 5 volts from the controlling LED Circuit board and the 28 volts from the lamp power supply. A Opto isolator based transistor would provide the electrical isolation between the two power sources, but there still is a common ground. The relay was the cleanest solution because both the supply side and the ground sides are isolated. Some of the LED Circuit Boards outputs are multiplexed so the led are actually turning on and off at a fast enough rate that the eye/brain thinks the led is ON. A relay on the other hand may just buzz, due to the multiplex frequency. Adding a capacitor to the relay input coil can eliminate the "Buzz" and provide a steady controled output. Just another data point. David www.737FlightSim.com From crease-guard at sbcglobal.net Mon Mar 24 10:26:50 2008 From: crease-guard at sbcglobal.net (Joseph Fagner) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 12:26:50 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <004c01c88dd4$3f7d2b50$0202fea9@flightsystems> That's an awfully broad topic there. Let's start with the basics, what material do you want to build the sim with? jay -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Clyde Stemberg Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 4:52 PM To: Simpits-tech at simpits.org Subject: [simpits-tech] help Hello I am building a Baron 58 sim and need a lot of help, I've down the research and found some helpful stuff, but need some help with the actual building of it. If anyone could help that would be great. thanks clyde _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From cstemberg at mac.com Mon Mar 24 13:21:07 2008 From: cstemberg at mac.com (Clyde Stemberg) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:21:07 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] help In-Reply-To: <004c01c88dd4$3f7d2b50$0202fea9@flightsystems> References: <004c01c88dd4$3f7d2b50$0202fea9@flightsystems> Message-ID: <4F4D51CC-0118-1000-D964-60E4448B62B3-Webmail-10007@mac.com> I would want to build it with some lumber, but don't know what type to use. Should I use ply? Plus I would like it to be a walk in, fully surounded. Thanks Clyde On Monday, March 24, 2008, at 10:27AM, "Joseph Fagner" wrote: >That's an awfully broad topic there. Let's start with the basics, what >material do you want to build the sim with? > >jay > >-----Original Message----- >From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org >[mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Clyde Stemberg >Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 4:52 PM >To: Simpits-tech at simpits.org >Subject: [simpits-tech] help > >Hello I am building a Baron 58 sim and need a lot of help, I've down >the research and found some helpful stuff, but need some help with >the actual building of it. If anyone could help that would be great. >thanks > clyde >_______________________________________________ >Simpits-tech mailing list >Simpits-tech at simpits.org >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. >Thanks! > >_______________________________________________ >Simpits-tech mailing list >Simpits-tech at simpits.org >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > > From phoenixcomm at gmail.com Mon Mar 24 15:37:53 2008 From: phoenixcomm at gmail.com (Cris Harrison) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:37:53 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: woh there, before you 'build' what is your mission, ie game, flight training, etc. what flight sym are you going to use, ms, x, etc. Is it going to prototypical? yes what scale, no ok. thats some of the stuff you will need, are you going to use instruments or and a glass cockpit? for construction there is a few ways to go.. but 1x1 pine with some laminate on the outside or inside floors, panels, 1/2 to 3/4 plywood or mdf.. and put some wheels on it so can rool it around a bit. - Good Luck Cris Harrison www.phoenixcomm.net/~phnx2000/sim www.phoenixaerospace.us On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Clyde Stemberg wrote: > Hello I am building a Baron 58 sim and need a lot of help, I've down > the research and found some helpful stuff, but need some help with > the actual building of it. If anyone could help that would be great. > thanks > clyde > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Mon Mar 24 15:40:32 2008 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:40:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] controling a 28v circuit with a 5v Message-ID: <405474.40891.qm@web52011.mail.re2.yahoo.com> David, that does sound good. If relays work fine then I'd be more than happy with that solution. The ones I found on Ebay at the moment however look like 1A. If you notice any at 20mA let me know. I only need 5 of them. That looks like a slick little landing gear project that you made, exactly what I had in mind. Last night (way too late last night) I made a marker lights board with LEDs that is functioning and it looks nice to see it light up on approach. Next with the LEDs is a stall warning light. That should go nicely with my pedal stall shaker :) Justin ----------------------------------------------------------------- I used 5v low current relays to isolate and control the 28volt lamps. I built this little circuit board to control the landing gear lamps for a friends sim. http://www.737flightsim.com/Misc/relay7.JPG It uses relays I purchased on ebay and is controlled by a Go-Flight Landing Gear module. I think I paid $5.00USD for 20 relays. David www.737FlightSim.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Mon Mar 24 15:44:38 2008 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:44:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Baron 58 help Message-ID: <1938.21227.qm@web52001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Here you go http://home.exetel.com.au/flightsim/ --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From phoenixcomm at gmail.com Mon Mar 24 15:49:26 2008 From: phoenixcomm at gmail.com (Cris Harrison) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:49:26 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] HElp In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: hi Clyde you could go my route I was building a FBW Xplane www.phoenixcomm.net/~phnx2000 but ran out of cash... ITS REAL EXPENSIVE!! So I just started with the cockpit. and all the computers that are in the real plane.... You could alway go to your local boneyard and buy a nose section. like my x lear 27 thats the easy way, that way you get seats, panels, yokes, pedals, etc. You will also have to decide on you hardware / software. then enjoy. Cris www.phoenixcomm.net/~phnx2000/sim www.phoenixaerospace.us On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 6:33 PM, Clyde Stemberg wrote: > Does anybody know how to start a design for a sim? I would like to > have a live size cockpit of a Piper Navijo Chieftain. > Clyde > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > From allendc at qwest.net Mon Mar 24 17:43:07 2008 From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 18:43:07 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] controling a 28v circuit with a 5v In-Reply-To: <405474.40891.qm@web52011.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <405474.40891.qm@web52011.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20080325004109.4A03862786B@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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TIA Hagee From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Mon Mar 24 20:43:45 2008 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:43:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] F-4 sim video Message-ID: <369906.84791.qm@web52007.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Cant remember if I already posted this link. Steve recently updated his promotional video. You can briefly see me helping someone in the rear seat. The footage of the crowed was last month in Hutchinson KS, people had to stand in line for 2 hours for 2 minutes in the sim. http://f4sim.com/f4dreamswmv.wmv --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080324/f0c0137c/attachment.html From alex at flyinglow.ca Tue Mar 25 06:18:43 2008 From: alex at flyinglow.ca (=?iso-8859-1?Q?alex?=) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 07:18:43 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] AMP D-Sub Crimp tool for sale Message-ID: <20080325131843.26847.qmail@s412.sureserver.com> I was going through my tools last night, and I came across this gem that some of the more serious builders might appreciate for wiring up a bunch of serial or parallel connectors. I even have a 25 pin male and female connetor to through in (I also had a male 9pin, but I crimped a wire in it to test the tool - works beautifully). Other then trying it out, I have never used it, and after seeing what they sell for new, I figure the few times I need to make a d-sub connector I'll just solder the wires manually. I could use the cash to buy plane parts. Both Digikey and Jameco still stock these, so I'm thinking there are people out there who would appreciate one for less then full blown retail. http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail?name=A2031-ND http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail?name=A2032-ND Total price from Digi-Key $266 plus taxes & shipping (Jameco was over $400! Yikes, who shops there???). Any takers for $100 US plus shipping? Alex From alex at flyinglow.ca Tue Mar 25 06:18:43 2008 From: alex at flyinglow.ca (=?iso-8859-1?Q?alex?=) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 07:18:43 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] AMP D-Sub Crimp tool for sale Message-ID: <20080325131843.26847.qmail@s412.sureserver.com> I was going through my tools last night, and I came across this gem that some of the more serious builders might appreciate for wiring up a bunch of serial or parallel connectors. I even have a 25 pin male and female connetor to through in (I also had a male 9pin, but I crimped a wire in it to test the tool - works beautifully). Other then trying it out, I have never used it, and after seeing what they sell for new, I figure the few times I need to make a d-sub connector I'll just solder the wires manually. I could use the cash to buy plane parts. Both Digikey and Jameco still stock these, so I'm thinking there are people out there who would appreciate one for less then full blown retail. http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail?name=A2031-ND http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail?name=A2032-ND Total price from Digi-Key $266 plus taxes & shipping (Jameco was over $400! Yikes, who shops there???). Any takers for $100 US plus shipping? Alex From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Mar 25 06:37:02 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 06:37:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] AMP D-Sub Crimp tool for sale In-Reply-To: <20080325131843.26847.qmail@s412.sureserver.com> References: <20080325131843.26847.qmail@s412.sureserver.com> Message-ID: > I was going through my tools last night, and I came across this gem that > some of the more serious builders might appreciate for wiring up a bunch > of serial or parallel connectors. I even have a 25 pin male and female > connetor to through in (I also had a male 9pin, but I crimped a wire in > it to test the tool - works beautifully). Other then trying it out, I > have never used it, and after seeing what they sell for new, I figure > the few times I need to make a d-sub connector I'll just solder the > wires manually. I could use the cash to buy plane parts. Alex, is it for crimping ribbon style connectors? Otherwise I can't picture how the thing would work. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From crease-guard at sbcglobal.net Mon Mar 24 10:24:35 2008 From: crease-guard at sbcglobal.net (Joseph Fagner) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 12:24:35 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] controling a 28v circuit with a 5v In-Reply-To: <399971.96888.qm@web52011.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <399971.96888.qm@web52011.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004601c88dd3$eeca2460$0202fea9@flightsystems> Been there, done this already. I did this exercise with Mike Powell a few years ago. Here's the little schematic he came up with. I tested it and works perfectly. Alternatively, if you are doing several lamps, then I would suggest the ULN2803A IC. It's got 8 Darlington transistors each capable of sinking 500mA each. The 20mA input line is the one coming from the MM5451, just replace that with your input line. The Lamp Test part you can leave out as well, but you do need the 2.2K pull up resistor if the output voltage is that to drive an LED, otherwise you won't trigger the transistor. Thanks to Mike Powell for the design. Jay _____ From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Justin Messenger Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 10:22 AM To: simpits-tech at simpits.org Subject: [simpits-tech] controling a 28v circuit with a 5v I thought about that and would be happy to go that route, but as Gene said Im not sure if using only 20mA for the 5V would work well. As far as changing lamps goes, I want to control my landing gear indicators, they are 28v but are not lamps. However, If I get them to work then the same system would also work to control the 28v lamp that I also want to function (gear transition light). This is a real sim and all the lamps are 28v and I have power going to them. I dont really want to modify them if I dont have to due to common grounding. yes you could run a realy?! DU if the bulbs are re-lampable then just change the stupid lamps! Cris Aviation Videos http://HeritageAviationVideos.fly.to/ DC-8 Simulator www.dc8cockpit.catisp.com F-4 Simulators www.Phantom.highspeedzone.com _____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080324/deb68995/attachment-0001.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 25527 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080324/deb68995/attachment-0001.jpe From alex at flyinglow.ca Tue Mar 25 06:53:48 2008 From: alex at flyinglow.ca (=?iso-8859-1?Q?alex?=) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 07:53:48 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] AMP D-Sub Crimp tool for sale Message-ID: <20080325135349.26847.qmail@s412.sureserver.com> > Alex, is it for crimping ribbon style connectors???Otherwise I can't > picture how the thing would work. :) No, more like bell wire. I believe this tool was purchased by the previous owner back in the heyday of running serial cables out to dumb terminals. In an office with 100+ desks, making all those 9 pin serial connectors would have taken forever with a soldering iron. I'll post some photos to my blog tonight. But basically the plugs have 2 rows of connectors. You slide the plug into the tool from the left until the first lines up with the hole. Stick a 22 (18-24?) guage wire into the hole in the tool, squeeze the trigger and the wire is pressed into the plug and crimped on - the tool automatically advances the plug to the next pin. Repeat. Once one side is done, pull the plug, turn it around and reinsert to do the alternate row of pins. I estimate the time to wire a plug at 10-20% that of soldering - maybe less. It does require you use specific plugs - I'm not sure how much the blank plugs cost. Alex From phoenixcomm at gmail.com Tue Mar 25 07:25:20 2008 From: phoenixcomm at gmail.com (Cris Harrison) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 09:25:20 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] AMP D-Sub Crimp tool for sale In-Reply-To: <20080325131843.26847.qmail@s412.sureserver.com> References: <20080325131843.26847.qmail@s412.sureserver.com> Message-ID: this toool only works with IDS type connectors. Cool tool but the connectors are a bit pricey. here is the tyco pn 1-745497-7 http://catalog.tycoelectronics.com/TE/bin/TE.Connect?C=1&M=BYPN&TCPN=58063-2&RQPN=58063-2 Cris Harrison www.phoenixcomm.net/~phnx2000/sim www.phoenixaerospace.us On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 8:18 AM, alex wrote: > I was going through my tools last night, and I came across this gem that some of the more serious builders might appreciate for wiring up a bunch of serial or parallel connectors. I even have a 25 pin male and female connetor to through in (I also had a male 9pin, but I crimped a wire in it to test the tool - works beautifully). Other then trying it out, I have never used it, and after seeing what they sell for new, I figure the few times I need to make a d-sub connector I'll just solder the wires manually. I could use the cash to buy plane parts. > > Both Digikey and Jameco still stock these, so I'm thinking there are people out there who would appreciate one for less then full blown retail. > > http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail?name=A2031-ND > http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail?name=A2032-ND > > Total price from Digi-Key $266 plus taxes & shipping (Jameco was over $400! Yikes, who shops there???). > > Any takers for $100 US plus shipping? > > Alex > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Mar 25 07:28:27 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 07:28:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] AMP D-Sub Crimp tool for sale In-Reply-To: <20080325135349.26847.qmail@s412.sureserver.com> References: <20080325135349.26847.qmail@s412.sureserver.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 25 Mar 2008, alex wrote: >> Alex, is it for crimping ribbon style connectors???Otherwise I can't >> picture how the thing would work. :) > > No, more like bell wire. I believe this tool was purchased by the > previous owner back in the heyday of running serial cables out to dumb > terminals. In an office with 100+ desks, making all those 9 pin serial > connectors would have taken forever with a soldering iron. > > I'll post some photos to my blog tonight. But basically the plugs have 2 > rows of connectors. You slide the plug into the tool from the left until > the first lines up with the hole. Stick a 22 (18-24?) guage wire into > the hole in the tool, squeeze the trigger and the wire is pressed into > the plug and crimped on - the tool automatically advances the plug to > the next pin. Repeat. Once one side is done, pull the plug, turn it > around and reinsert to do the alternate row of pins. > Ahh, now I get it. I haven't seen that style of DB connector in years. All the ones I use for the sim use individually crimped pins. Either way it beats the hell out of soldering them up. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From alex at flyinglow.ca Tue Mar 25 07:47:09 2008 From: alex at flyinglow.ca (=?iso-8859-1?Q?alex?=) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 08:47:09 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] AMP D-Sub Crimp tool for sale Message-ID: <20080325144709.18625.qmail@s412.sureserver.com> > this toool only works with IDS type connectors. Cool tool but the > connectors are a bit pricey. here is the tyco pn 1-745497-7 In the end, this tool is a time / money trade off. Those with money and little time will appreciate it, those like me with little money and (hopefully) more time can't justify the cost - hence the reason I'm looking to sell it. As for the cost of the connectors, based on this page from Digi-Key, http://digi-key.dirxion.com/Main.asp?from=emailafriend&pagenav=&bookid=1&pageindex=262 The 9 pins seem comparable (male connectors are the same price), but you're right, they do get quite expensive compared to the soldered connectors as the number of pins rise. Alex http://www.flyinglow.ca From phoenixcomm at gmail.com Tue Mar 25 11:34:24 2008 From: phoenixcomm at gmail.com (Cris Harrison) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 13:34:24 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] AMP D-Sub Crimp tool for sale In-Reply-To: <20080325144709.18625.qmail@s412.sureserver.com> References: <20080325144709.18625.qmail@s412.sureserver.com> Message-ID: to all I have use the gun fast & much bucks, solder cups you can go blind and repair can be a pain.. I personally like single crimp hand tool with back-instert shells (shells are $1-2 each from digi) pins are about .30 cents each. But a good Amp crimper with insulation support could set you back a few hundred bucks. and then you need a good striper. The aircraft hand striper is $20-100 new used etc. but I like a rotary striper, you can pick one up for a few hundred bucks.... and don't even think Teflon.. worse yet.. you need thermal strippers again a few hundred bucks. (and very fragile). Have fun guys.... Cris www.phoenixcomm.net/~phnx2000/sim www.phoenixaerospace.us On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 9:47 AM, alex wrote: > > this toool only works with IDS type connectors. Cool tool but the > > connectors are a bit pricey. here is the tyco pn 1-745497-7 > > In the end, this tool is a time / money trade off. Those with money and little time will appreciate it, those like me with little money and (hopefully) more time can't justify the cost - hence the reason I'm looking to sell it. > > As for the cost of the connectors, based on this page from Digi-Key, > > http://digi-key.dirxion.com/Main.asp?from=emailafriend&pagenav=&bookid=1&pageindex=262 > > The 9 pins seem comparable (male connectors are the same price), but you're right, they do get quite expensive compared to the soldered connectors as the number of pins rise. > > Alex > http://www.flyinglow.ca > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > From phoenixcomm at gmail.com Tue Mar 25 11:43:48 2008 From: phoenixcomm at gmail.com (Cris Harrison) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 13:43:48 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] AMP D-Sub Crimp tool for sale In-Reply-To: References: <20080325144709.18625.qmail@s412.sureserver.com> Message-ID: I think I will post a construction (solder and crimping) dos and donts! I have posted in my library ( *www.phoenixcomm.net/~phnx2000/sim/library* ) 3 really good documents: *1 FAA Advisory Circular AC 120-40B* compliance with the Federal Aviation Regulations (FAR) regarding the evaluation and qualification of airplane simulators *2 NASA-STD-8739.3* Soldered Electrical Connections *3 NASA-STD-8739.4* Crimping, Interconnecting Cables, Harnesses, and Wiring. On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Cris Harrison wrote: > to all > I have use the gun fast & much bucks, solder cups you can go blind and > repair can be a pain.. > I personally like single crimp hand tool with back-instert shells > (shells are $1-2 each from digi) pins are about .30 cents each. But a > good Amp crimper with insulation support could set you back a few > hundred bucks. and then you need a good striper. The aircraft hand > striper is $20-100 new used etc. but I like a rotary striper, you can > pick one up for a few hundred bucks.... and don't even think Teflon.. > worse yet.. you need thermal strippers again a few hundred bucks. (and > very fragile). > > Have fun guys.... > Cris > > www.phoenixcomm.net/~phnx2000/sim > www.phoenixaerospace.us > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 9:47 AM, alex wrote: > > > this toool only works with IDS type connectors. Cool tool but the > > > connectors are a bit pricey. here is the tyco pn 1-745497-7 > > > > In the end, this tool is a time / money trade off. Those with money and little time will appreciate it, those like me with little money and (hopefully) more time can't justify the cost - hence the reason I'm looking to sell it. > > > > As for the cost of the connectors, based on this page from Digi-Key, > > > > http://digi-key.dirxion.com/Main.asp?from=emailafriend&pagenav=&bookid=1&pageindex&2 > > > > The 9 pins seem comparable (male connectors are the same price), but you're right, they do get quite expensive compared to the soldered connectors as the number of pins rise. > > > > Alex > > http://www.flyinglow.ca > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Simpits-tech mailing list > > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. 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URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080325/4f167e09/attachment.html From alex at flyinglow.ca Tue Mar 25 16:03:04 2008 From: alex at flyinglow.ca (=?iso-8859-1?Q?alex?=) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 17:03:04 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] AMP D-Sub Crimp tool for sale Message-ID: <20080325230304.6878.qmail@s412.sureserver.com> A picture of the tool for those still confused... http://www.flyinglow.ca/flyinglow/2008/03/amp-dsub-crimping-tool-for-sal.html Alex http://www.flyinglow.ca From sean.g at paradise.net.nz Wed Mar 26 01:37:24 2008 From: sean.g at paradise.net.nz (Sean Galbraith) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:37:24 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] FsXpand Message-ID: <0JYB002IRXAFMP00@smtp4.clear.net.nz> Does anyone use FsXpand, if so.... thoughts, comments? http://cockpitsolutions.com/flyware/ SeanG From idekkers at gmail.com Thu Mar 27 01:19:04 2008 From: idekkers at gmail.com (Ido Dekkers) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:19:04 +0200 Subject: [simpits-tech] someone said cockpit ? Message-ID: <39e5de8d0803270119s1f1d5268xa5eb3e53c8ac27dc@mail.gmail.com> has anyone seen this ? http://cgi.govliquidation.com/auction/view?auctionId50637 27 million LBS of planes being sold!!!! Ido -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080327/5095941f/attachment.html From sean.g at paradise.net.nz Thu Mar 27 02:10:08 2008 From: sean.g at paradise.net.nz (Sean Galbraith) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:10:08 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] someone said cockpit ? In-Reply-To: <39e5de8d0803270119s1f1d5268xa5eb3e53c8ac27dc@mail.gmail.co m> References: <39e5de8d0803270119s1f1d5268xa5eb3e53c8ac27dc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0JYD00IKUTH1FZ30@smtp5.clear.net.nz> Well, munched into bits smaller than 4" x 4", with no parts removal allowed :( SeanG At 09:19 p.m. 27/03/2008, you wrote: >has anyone seen this ? >http://cgi.govliquidation.com/auction/view?auctionId=1650637 > >27 million LBS of planes being sold!!!! > >Ido >_______________________________________________ >Simpits-tech mailing list >Simpits-tech at simpits.org >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the >above page. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Well, munched into bits smaller than 4" x 4", with no parts removal allowed :( SeanG At 09:19 p.m. 27/03/2008, you wrote: has anyone seen this ? http://cgi.govliquidation.com/auction/view?auctionId50637 27 million LBS of planes being sold!!!! Ido _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080327/d79cdbc2/attachment.html From surfer.man at free.fr Thu Mar 27 05:37:25 2008 From: surfer.man at free.fr (surfer.man at free.fr) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:37:25 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] someone said cockpit ? In-Reply-To: <39e5de8d0803270119s1f1d5268xa5eb3e53c8ac27dc@mail.gmail.com> References: <39e5de8d0803270119s1f1d5268xa5eb3e53c8ac27dc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1206621445.47eb9505ca5f3@imp.free.fr> May have 4 lbs of it M'dame.. it will be for tommorow's dinner.. >>> everything could be sold a great link Ido, regards JEAN-YVES Selon Ido Dekkers : > has anyone seen this ? > http://cgi.govliquidation.com/auction/view?auctionId=1650637 > > 27 million LBS of planes being sold!!!! > > Ido > From surfer.man at free.fr Thu Mar 27 05:37:32 2008 From: surfer.man at free.fr (surfer.man at free.fr) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:37:32 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] someone said cockpit ? In-Reply-To: <39e5de8d0803270119s1f1d5268xa5eb3e53c8ac27dc@mail.gmail.com> References: <39e5de8d0803270119s1f1d5268xa5eb3e53c8ac27dc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1206621452.47eb950c06ece@imp.free.fr> May have 4 lbs of it M'dame.. it will be for tommorow's dinner.. >>> everything could be sold a great link Ido, regards JEAN-YVES Selon Ido Dekkers : > has anyone seen this ? > http://cgi.govliquidation.com/auction/view?auctionId=1650637 > > 27 million LBS of planes being sold!!!! > > Ido > From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Mar 27 06:57:29 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 06:57:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] someone said cockpit ? In-Reply-To: <39e5de8d0803270119s1f1d5268xa5eb3e53c8ac27dc@mail.gmail.com> References: <39e5de8d0803270119s1f1d5268xa5eb3e53c8ac27dc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 27 Mar 2008, Ido Dekkers wrote: > has anyone seen this ? > http://cgi.govliquidation.com/auction/view?auctionId=1650637 > > 27 million LBS of planes being sold!!!! Er, no. 27 million pounds of 4" x 4" metal chunks being sold: DEMILITARIZATION TO BE ACCOMPLISHED BY COMPLETELY DESTROYING WITH HAMMERMILL OR SHREDDER. END RESULTS OF DEMILITARIZATION MUST BE EQUAL TO OR LESS THAN 4 BY 4 PIECES Asshattery lives on. *sigh* g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Thu Mar 27 07:20:16 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 14:20:16 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] someone said cockpit ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 27 Mar 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > On Thu, 27 Mar 2008, Ido Dekkers wrote: > > > has anyone seen this ? > > http://cgi.govliquidation.com/auction/view?auctionId=1650637 > > > > 27 million LBS of planes being sold!!!! > > Er, no. 27 million pounds of 4" x 4" metal chunks being sold: > > DEMILITARIZATION TO BE ACCOMPLISHED BY COMPLETELY DESTROYING WITH > HAMMERMILL OR SHREDDER. END RESULTS OF DEMILITARIZATION MUST BE EQUAL TO > OR LESS THAN 4 BY 4 PIECES > > Asshattery lives on. *sigh* Jeez, and I thought the UK was anal !! -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From idekkers at gmail.com Thu Mar 27 07:36:21 2008 From: idekkers at gmail.com (Ido Dekkers) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:36:21 +0200 Subject: [simpits-tech] someone said cockpit ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <39e5de8d0803270736u3b58e130xd876aa50470c94ff@mail.gmail.com> but like ben said - who knows if it's 1 ton of scrap alu or 1 ton of scrap pit ? just sow them a pile of 4x4 alu and save the pit On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Roy Coates wrote: > On Thu, 27 Mar 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > > > On Thu, 27 Mar 2008, Ido Dekkers wrote: > > > > > has anyone seen this ? > > > http://cgi.govliquidation.com/auction/view?auctionId50637 > > > > > > 27 million LBS of planes being sold!!!! > > > > Er, no. 27 million pounds of 4" x 4" metal chunks being sold: > > > > DEMILITARIZATION TO BE ACCOMPLISHED BY COMPLETELY DESTROYING WITH > > HAMMERMILL OR SHREDDER. END RESULTS OF DEMILITARIZATION MUST BE EQUAL TO > > OR LESS THAN 4 BY 4 PIECES > > > > Asshattery lives on. *sigh* > > > Jeez, and I thought the UK was anal !! > > > -- > > Roy Coates. > Dept of Engineering. > Liverpool University. > E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk > Tel: 0151 794 4862 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs > meter. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080327/ea825aa9/attachment-0001.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Mar 27 07:38:48 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 07:38:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] someone said cockpit ? In-Reply-To: <39e5de8d0803270736u3b58e130xd876aa50470c94ff@mail.gmail.com> References: <39e5de8d0803270736u3b58e130xd876aa50470c94ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > but like ben said - who knows if it's 1 ton of scrap alu or 1 ton of scrap > pit ? > > just sow them a pile of 4x4 alu and save the pit > They have very strict monitoring and verification procedures that you have to follow. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From idekkers at gmail.com Thu Mar 27 07:42:47 2008 From: idekkers at gmail.com (Ido Dekkers) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:42:47 +0200 Subject: [simpits-tech] someone said cockpit ? In-Reply-To: References: <39e5de8d0803270736u3b58e130xd876aa50470c94ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <39e5de8d0803270742p374983d2oe03b88f5f7cc7128@mail.gmail.com> so all the stuff you see on ebay are leftovers from the pre new law era ? On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Gene Buckle wrote: > > but like ben said - who knows if it's 1 ton of scrap alu or 1 ton of > scrap > > pit ? > > > > just sow them a pile of 4x4 alu and save the pit > > > > They have very strict monitoring and verification procedures that you have > to follow. > > g. > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080327/fe415b39/attachment.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Mar 27 08:25:03 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 08:25:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] someone said cockpit ? In-Reply-To: <39e5de8d0803270742p374983d2oe03b88f5f7cc7128@mail.gmail.com> References: <39e5de8d0803270736u3b58e130xd876aa50470c94ff@mail.gmail.com> <39e5de8d0803270742p374983d2oe03b88f5f7cc7128@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > so all the stuff you see on ebay are leftovers from the pre new law era ? > Pretty much. A lot of it comes out of big lot auctions via the DRMO. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From rhommel at mad.scientist.com Thu Mar 27 18:12:34 2008 From: rhommel at mad.scientist.com (Rob Hommel) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:12:34 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] OFF Topic!! Message-ID: <20080328011234.72746103C4@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> Gene,knows that I have several heros, Richard Feinman is one here is another. Enjoy... BTW, feel free to send me presents, I really enjoy collecting klein bottles. http://www.ted.com/talks/view/id/237 Gene knows what I am like when I get into educator mode, is there any similarity,Gene? Keep 'em Flying Rob Hommel -- Want an e-mail address like mine? Get a free e-mail account today at www.mail.com! From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Mar 27 18:53:22 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:53:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] OFF Topic!! In-Reply-To: <20080328011234.72746103C4@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20080328011234.72746103C4@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: > Gene,knows that I have several heros, Richard Feinman is one here is > another. Enjoy... > (It's Feynman!) *ahem* > BTW, feel free to send me presents, I really enjoy collecting klein bottles. > > http://www.ted.com/talks/view/id/237 > > Gene knows what I am like when I get into educator mode, is there any > similarity,Gene? Fortunately not, otherwise I would've beaten you half to death with a scrap of 2x4 by now. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From crease-guard at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 27 19:15:32 2008 From: crease-guard at sbcglobal.net (Joseph Fagner) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:15:32 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] OFF Topic!! In-Reply-To: References: <20080328011234.72746103C4@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <00ba01c89079$9a62fc00$0301a8c0@flightsystems> My God, I have the overwhelming urge to strangle something right now. Pffffth....as the tranquilizer dart goes whizzing by. Jay -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Gene Buckle Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 8:53 PM To: Simulator Cockpit tech list Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] OFF Topic!! > Gene,knows that I have several heros, Richard Feinman is one here is > another. Enjoy... > (It's Feynman!) *ahem* > BTW, feel free to send me presents, I really enjoy collecting klein bottles. > > http://www.ted.com/talks/view/id/237 > > Gene knows what I am like when I get into educator mode, is there any > similarity,Gene? Fortunately not, otherwise I would've beaten you half to death with a scrap of 2x4 by now. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Fri Mar 28 06:59:22 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:59:22 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] OFF Topic!! In-Reply-To: <20080328011234.72746103C4@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 27 Mar 2008, Rob Hommel wrote: > > > Gene,knows that I have several heros, Richard Feinman is one here is another. Enjoy... > > BTW, feel free to send me presents, I really enjoy collecting klein bottles. > > http://www.ted.com/talks/view/id/237 > > Gene knows what I am like when I get into educator mode, is there any similarity,Gene? That guy rocks... seen him before somewhere. Wish I'd been taught by someone like him :-) -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil Fri Mar 28 08:58:15 2008 From: bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil (Brian Sikkema) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 11:58:15 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] OFF Topic!! Message-ID: <33c68f8880034ddfb9f4161a6e053fa1.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> His website, http://www.kleinbottle.com/ is hilarious, too. On his page for the GIANT Klein bottle, he calls it "bigger than your average boundless thing." lol Also quite hilarious is his "Cutting edge jigsaw puzzles." hehehe. >------- Original Message ------- >From : Roy Coates[mailto:roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk] >Sent : 3/28/2008 9:59:22 AM >To : simpits-tech at simpits.org >Cc : >Subject : RE: Re: [simpits-tech] OFF Topic!! > >On Thu, 27 Mar 2008, Rob Hommel wrote: > > > Gene,knows that I have several heros, Richard Feinman is one here is another. Enjoy... > > BTW, feel free to send me presents, I really enjoy collecting klein bottles. > > http://www.ted.com/talks/view/id/237 > > Gene knows what I am like when I get into educator mode, is there any similarity,Gene? That guy rocks... seen him before somewhere. Wish I'd been taught by someone like him :-) -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From rhommel at mad.scientist.com Fri Mar 28 10:24:07 2008 From: rhommel at mad.scientist.com (Rob Hommel) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 12:24:07 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] OFF Topic!! Message-ID: <20080328172407.A198C164288@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> Roy: Years ago I used to hang out with fiz-x students and educators alike, the number of them which behaved in a like manner was astonishing. The things I was exposed to were beyond my education and on occasion my imagination. One of my friends went on to teach at a small university, another became a rocket scientist. A third friend who was skilled at math and useless with a hammer also went on to teach and do theoretical physics. Parties with these folks was always amusing. Drinks like the absolute zero made with liquid nitrogen and absolute vodka were a challenge, for the squeamish substitute dry ice for liquid nitrogen. Keep 'em Flying Rob Hommel -- Want an e-mail address like mine? Get a free e-mail account today at www.mail.com! From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Fri Mar 28 10:34:40 2008 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 10:34:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] (no subject) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <203270.17677.qm@web52003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> A DRMO guy here said that it is getting so rediculus that they have 2 de-ice trucks they cant get rid of because the system shows that they can be used on the F-14 Tomcat. How goofy is that? Aviation Videos http://HeritageAviationVideos.fly.to/ DC-8 Simulator www.dc8cockpit.catisp.com F-4 Simulators www.Phantom.highspeedzone.com --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080328/ac233b7f/attachment.html From crease-guard at sbcglobal.net Fri Mar 28 12:28:53 2008 From: crease-guard at sbcglobal.net (Joseph Fagner) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:28:53 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <203270.17677.qm@web52003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <203270.17677.qm@web52003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002301c89109$f5d4b430$0301a8c0@flightsystems> Like they have a lot of icing issues in Iran. Jay _____ From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Justin Messenger Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 12:35 PM To: simpits-tech at simpits.org Subject: [simpits-tech] (no subject) A DRMO guy here said that it is getting so rediculus that they have 2 de-ice trucks they cant get rid of because the system shows that they can be used on the F-14 Tomcat. How goofy is that? Aviation Videos http://HeritageAviationVideos.fly.to/ DC-8 Simulator www.dc8cockpit.catisp.com F-4 Simulators www.Phantom.highspeedzone.com _____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080328/79ac7843/attachment.html From bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil Fri Mar 28 15:01:46 2008 From: bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil (Brian Sikkema) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:01:46 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] (no subject) Message-ID: <513c650bf53d43ddbe05ca2f06af8145.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> Strangely enough I've read that most of the US's paranoia about surplus F-14 goods is due to China, not Iran. I don't know why China would be so interested in a 70's vintage interceptor, but apparently they are... ------- Original Message ------- >From : Joseph Fagner[mailto:crease-guard at sbcglobal.net] Sent : 3/28/2008 3:28:53 PM To : simpits-tech at simpits.org Cc : Subject : RE: Re: [simpits-tech] (no subject) Like they have a lot of icing issues in Iran. Jay From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Justin Messenger Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 12:35 PM To: simpits-tech at simpits.org Subject: [simpits-tech] (no subject) A DRMO guy here said that it is getting so rediculus that they have 2 de-ice trucks they cant get rid of because the system shows that they can be used on the F-14 Tomcat. How goofy is that? Aviation Videos http://HeritageAviationVideos.fly.to/ DC-8 Simulator www.dc8cockpit.catisp.com F-4 Simulators www.Phantom.highspeedzone.com Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From f16 at xflight.de Sat Mar 29 01:05:37 2008 From: f16 at xflight.de (F16) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 09:05:37 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] Search the FlightData.h for Falcon AF In-Reply-To: <001001c818a8$371981d0$8800a8c0@CHRISWORK> Message-ID: <000401c89173$ac65d300$15b2a8c0@PRI00050> Hello guys, I hope, anybody can help me. I search the "flightdata.h" header file for the Falcon 4 Allied Force program. Have anybody the idea about the structure of this file? Thanks and have all a nice weekend Martin "Pegasus" From crease-guard at sbcglobal.net Sat Mar 29 01:15:36 2008 From: crease-guard at sbcglobal.net (Joseph Fagner) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 03:15:36 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Search the FlightData.h for Falcon AF In-Reply-To: <000401c89173$ac65d300$15b2a8c0@PRI00050> References: <001001c818a8$371981d0$8800a8c0@CHRISWORK> <000401c89173$ac65d300$15b2a8c0@PRI00050> Message-ID: <000601c89175$121275e0$0301a8c0@flightsystems> Well, they don't publically release that file. However, I do have one from Oct of 2006. Not sure how much, if any, it's changed. Jay -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of F16 Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 3:06 AM To: 'Simulator Cockpit tech list' Subject: [simpits-tech] Search the FlightData.h for Falcon AF Hello guys, I hope, anybody can help me. I search the "flightdata.h" header file for the Falcon 4 Allied Force program. Have anybody the idea about the structure of this file? Thanks and have all a nice weekend Martin "Pegasus" _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From f16 at xflight.de Sat Mar 29 01:32:39 2008 From: f16 at xflight.de (F16) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 09:32:39 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] Search the FlightData.h for Falcon AF In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000101c89177$72e587c0$15b2a8c0@PRI00050> Hello Jay, great, this file is absolut OK for me, my test version is also from this time. It is possible that you can send me this file? Thanks Martin -----Original Message----- From: Joseph Fagner [mailto:crease-guard at sbcglobal.net] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 9:16 AM To: f16 at xflight.de; 'Simulator Cockpit tech list' Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] Search the FlightData.h for Falcon AF Well, they don't publically release that file. However, I do have one from Oct of 2006. Not sure how much, if any, it's changed. Jay -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of F16 Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 3:06 AM To: 'Simulator Cockpit tech list' Subject: [simpits-tech] Search the FlightData.h for Falcon AF Hello guys, I hope, anybody can help me. I search the "flightdata.h" header file for the Falcon 4 Allied Force program. Have anybody the idea about the structure of this file? Thanks and have all a nice weekend Martin "Pegasus" _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Sat Mar 29 10:17:43 2008 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 10:17:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] synchro instruments Message-ID: <825165.32127.qm@web52010.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I opened one of the Tachometer gauges in my F-4 sim and see it runs on a synchro receiver. That should be a snap to control with a sender and one of my servos! I can see that this summer's project will be getting a power supply and synchro senders for those gauges and the ADI. Especially if the other engine gauges run from synchros and I think they do. Fun stuff! I hear the cheapest way to get senders is to buy cheap instruments that already have them and then you remove them for your own use. Justin --------------------------------- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080329/aafeb5ce/attachment-0001.html From phoenixcomm at gmail.com Sun Mar 30 14:51:30 2008 From: phoenixcomm at gmail.com (Cris Harrison) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 16:51:30 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] synchro instruments In-Reply-To: <825165.32127.qm@web52010.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <825165.32127.qm@web52010.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: man thats ok but there are ezyer ways think of them (CTr) as little motors, the stators are 3 winding 120 deg apart. and the rotor single phase ok? ( call them r1, r2, r3)) now put a 400hz or 60hz on the rotor windings ok? ( call it s1 & s2) now what you have to understand that its a phase difference that that makes it move, so if you put a wire from s1 to r1 and s2 to r2 or r3 the needle will indicate phase differance...... so to make it real simple take a 3phase 400hz out put 120 deg apart remember. and put them on r1, 2, 3 then if you take r1 to s1 do you get it??????????? enjoy Cris On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Justin Messenger wrote: > I opened one of the Tachometer gauges in my F-4 sim and see it runs on a > synchro receiver. That should be a snap to control with a sender and one of > my servos! I can see that this summer's project will be getting a power > supply and synchro senders for those gauges and the ADI. Especially if the > other engine gauges run from synchros and I think they do. Fun stuff! > > I hear the cheapest way to get senders is to buy cheap instruments that > already have them and then you remove them for your own use. > > Justin > > ------------------------------ > You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster > Total Access, > No Cost. > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080330/8ecce021/attachment.html From allendc at qwest.net Sun Mar 30 16:19:04 2008 From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 17:19:04 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] synchro instruments In-Reply-To: References: <825165.32127.qm@web52010.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20080330231707.D6CA153BC38@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080330/fdc99963/attachment.html From phoenixcomm at gmail.com Sun Mar 30 17:50:10 2008 From: phoenixcomm at gmail.com (Cris Harrison) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 19:50:10 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] synchro instruments In-Reply-To: <20080330231707.D6CA153BC38@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net> References: <825165.32127.qm@web52010.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20080330231707.D6CA153BC38@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: Im not sure.. I rebuilt the catalog please David check it out... which switches? Cris On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 6:19 PM, David C. Allen wrote: > Hi Cris > Did you ever locate the Rotary switches you had for sale > > David > > > > At 04:51 PM 3/30/2008 -0500, you wrote: > > man thats ok but there are ezyer ways > think of them (CTr) as little motors, > the stators are 3 winding 120 deg apart. and the rotor single phase ok? ( > call them r1, r2, r3)) > now put a 400hz or 60hz on the rotor windings ok? ( call it s1 & s2) > now what you have to understand that its a phase difference that that > makes it move, > so if you put a wire from s1 to r1 and s2 to r2 or r3 the needle will > indicate phase differance...... > so to make it real simple > take a 3phase 400hz out put 120 deg apart remember. and put them on r1, 2, > 3 > then if you take r1 to s1 > do you get it??????????? > > enjoy > Cris > > On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Justin Messenger > wrote: > I opened one of the Tachometer gauges in my F-4 sim and see it runs on a > synchro receiver. That should be a snap to control with a sender and one of > my servos! I can see that this summer's project will be getting a power > supply and synchro senders for those gauges and the ADI. Especially if the > other engine gauges run from synchros and I think they do. Fun stuff! > > I hear the cheapest way to get senders is to buy cheap instruments that > already have them and then you remove them for your own use. > > Justin > > > You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster > Total Access, > No Cost. > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > > > __________ NOD32 2985 (20080330) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080330/ee149f60/attachment.html From rhommel at mad.scientist.com Mon Mar 31 08:28:29 2008 From: rhommel at mad.scientist.com (Rob Hommel) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 10:28:29 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Battlestar sim Message-ID: <20080331152829.60D7816427A@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> This is a good effort to make a sim from a bad game. One of the members should take this sim on and make it worth while. http://www.popsci.com/you-built-what/article/2008-03/better-way-play-battlestar-galactica Keep 'em Flying Rob Hommel -- Want an e-mail address like mine? Get a free e-mail account today at www.mail.com!