From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Tue Jul 1 20:29:54 2008 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 20:29:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Newspaper article on our sim project Message-ID: <534724.15367.qm@web52004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> http://www.eldoradotimes.com/news/x197766007/Air-Force-One-Discovery-Center-holds-opening -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080701/6119900a/attachment.html From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Tue Jul 1 20:32:58 2008 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 20:32:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Newspaper article on our sim project - PS Message-ID: <422414.98474.qm@web52010.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I forgot to add that the fuselage that you see us sitting in is a replica fuselage that they built and added to the back of the sim. It really looks fantastic, it transformed the sim into looking like a real airplane section. ? ? http://www.eldoradotimes.com/news/x197766007/Air-Force-One-Discovery-Center-holds-opening -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080701/259ef2c5/attachment.html From cstemberg at mac.com Fri Jul 4 12:28:53 2008 From: cstemberg at mac.com (Clyde Stemberg) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:28:53 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] Cessna 182 Project Message-ID: Hello All,! Happy Fourth! I am starting to do research in building a 182 sim. But need some help. I want to start off with just the panel, but my dream goal is to have a overhead roof along with the sim, but I need to raise the money to do that. Right now I have about 190$ total. Next I am wondering how do I start the construction to this project. I have looked on cessna website and got the specs for the panel. What I would like to do is have a yoke with the throttle prop and mixture control. W/ an avionic radiostack and GPS screen. Basically every thing they have in the real plane. Second is the projection, would I use a projector and screen or just a computer monitior? Third is how would I set up the radiostack to the system( X-Plane or Microsoft Simulator X) along with the altimeter, and GPS? If some one could help me out with these that would be great thanks! Best, Clyde From catalina299 at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 05:27:45 2008 From: catalina299 at gmail.com (William Segal) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 05:27:45 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] Cessna 182 Project In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3a0a6c680807070527r5fffe32dsbdae6a1c1d30d31b@mail.gmail.com> I can't help you but I will be following your progress. One I thing know Matrox is coming out with a single card that will support 4 monitors at up to 1600x1200 most likely in XP. &MSFS -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080707/0c46332a/attachment.html From catalina299 at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 05:28:48 2008 From: catalina299 at gmail.com (William Segal) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 05:28:48 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] Simulator, William Segal has invited you to open a Google mail account Message-ID: <3a0a6c680807070528y1e069748o@mail.gmail.com> I've been using Gmail and thought you might like to try it out. Here's an invitation to create an account. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- William Segal has invited you to open a free Gmail account. 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Thanks, The Gmail Team (If clicking the URLs in this message does not work, copy and paste them into the address bar of your browser). From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Jul 7 06:42:24 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 06:42:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Simulator, William Segal has invited you to open a Google mail account In-Reply-To: <3a0a6c680807070528y1e069748o@mail.gmail.com> References: <3a0a6c680807070528y1e069748o@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 7 Jul 2008, William Segal wrote: > I've been using Gmail and thought you might like to try it out. Here's > an invitation to create an account. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > William Segal has invited you to open a free Gmail account. > WTF Bill? Please pay attention to the address you're sending stuff to. Sending a gmail invite to the simpits-tech list a) won't work on google's end, and b) is hugely annoying. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From frank at rezultat.dk Mon Jul 7 07:07:07 2008 From: frank at rezultat.dk (Frank Riedel) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 16:07:07 +0200 Subject: [simpits-tech] new production gallery up... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003701c8e03a$c64ed800$0401a8c0@frankzepto> Hi G What is the end price of your CAD drawings and build instructions for this fighter ?? Regards Frank -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] P? vegne af Gene Buckle Sendt: 20. juni 2008 15:37 Til: simpits-tech at simpits.org Emne: [simpits-tech] new production gallery up... http://www.simpits.com/Production_Galleries/single_seat_fighter_p3 g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From idekkers at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 07:15:01 2008 From: idekkers at gmail.com (Ido Dekkers) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 16:15:01 +0200 Subject: [simpits-tech] Cessna 182 Project In-Reply-To: <3a0a6c680807070527r5fffe32dsbdae6a1c1d30d31b@mail.gmail.com> References: <3a0a6c680807070527r5fffe32dsbdae6a1c1d30d31b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <39e5de8d0807070715u39ed812aq6a0c53a94bef9981@mail.gmail.com> yhe but no 3D at all On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 2:27 PM, William Segal wrote: > > I can't help you but I will be following your progress. One I thing know > Matrox is coming out with a single card that will support 4 monitors at up > to 1600x1200 most likely in XP. > > &MSFS > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. 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One I thing know Matrox is coming out with a single card that will support 4 monitors at up to 1600x1200 most likely in XP. &MSFS _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080707/68d075d7/attachment-0001.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Jul 7 07:34:27 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 07:34:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] new production gallery up... In-Reply-To: <003701c8e03a$c64ed800$0401a8c0@frankzepto> References: <003701c8e03a$c64ed800$0401a8c0@frankzepto> Message-ID: > Hi G > What is the end price of your CAD drawings and build instructions for this > fighter ?? > Frank, I'm shooting for three different packages... #1 is instructions and full size plotted drawings for the large parts. This one will be $50. #2 is the same as #1 with the addition of card-stock templates suitable for tracing. $75 (pending a successful test of how the vinyl cutter I got handles card stock) #3 is the same as #1 with the addition of 3/16" (or so) router templates for the ribs. $100. Progress on finishing the prototype has been stalled because I've been working on trying to get Cockpit Interface Master to the beta stage. I've also been doing a lot of "infrastructure" things in the shop that have been on my todo list for 2 years. The MS rebuild was at the top of the list. I started on a drill press table yesterday and hope to have that finished in the next couple of days. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Jul 7 07:37:37 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 07:37:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Cessna 182 Project In-Reply-To: <004601c8e03d$221f1b70$0401a8c0@frankzepto> References: <3a0a6c680807070527r5fffe32dsbdae6a1c1d30d31b@mail.gmail.com> <39e5de8d0807070715u39ed812aq6a0c53a94bef9981@mail.gmail.com> <004601c8e03d$221f1b70$0401a8c0@frankzepto> Message-ID: > Anybody tested 2x matroxTrippleHead2Go on 2 VGA cards in 1 PC ???? > I don't see why that wouldn't work quite well. The TH2G just looks like a big display to the VGA card. You'd need to make sure the simulator could keep up a good frame rate and the kinds of resolutions you'd have available. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From ednix at juno.com Mon Jul 7 07:54:22 2008 From: ednix at juno.com (Ed Nixon) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 14:54:22 GMT Subject: [simpits-tech] email Message-ID: <20080707.085422.23004.0@webmail04.vgs.untd.com> Hi - I'm not sure I got to the right place, but I'd like to unsubscribe from the individual emailings. I prefer to log-on to check them. Thanks. ____________________________________________________________ Play it loud with a new car stereo! Click here! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/Ioyw6iigWK8XqzfMYy7ZW7ffX7aJmLALzvH3EcvJ2gRM0NdJlJd74C/ From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Jul 7 08:10:55 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 08:10:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] email In-Reply-To: <20080707.085422.23004.0@webmail04.vgs.untd.com> References: <20080707.085422.23004.0@webmail04.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: > Hi - > I'm not sure I got to the right place, but I'd like to unsubscribe > from the individual emailings. I prefer to log-on to check them. > Thanks. > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > Instructions are attached to each message Ed. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From sean.g at paradise.net.nz Tue Jul 8 00:54:19 2008 From: sean.g at paradise.net.nz (Sean Galbraith) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:54:19 +1200 Subject: [simpits-tech] Cessna 182 Project In-Reply-To: References: <3a0a6c680807070527r5fffe32dsbdae6a1c1d30d31b@mail.gmail.com> <39e5de8d0807070715u39ed812aq6a0c53a94bef9981@mail.gmail.com> <004601c8e03d$221f1b70$0401a8c0@frankzepto> Message-ID: <0K3O00BEWGJ62H00@smtp5.clear.net.nz> At 02:37 a.m. 8/07/2008, you wrote: > > Anybody tested 2x matroxTrippleHead2Go on 2 VGA cards in 1 PC ???? > > > >I don't see why that wouldn't work quite well. The TH2G just looks like a >big display to the VGA card. You'd need to make sure the simulator could >keep up a good frame rate and the kinds of resolutions you'd have >available. I have done 2 x TH2GO on one video card, and it works fine, big resolution and all :) Be aware that if you run 2 cards with a TH2GO each then you will have 2 separate windows to deal with, rather than one mega-wide view. When I played with the 2 on one card thing I spanned both views..... kinda cool having 6 monitors on your desk..... SeanG From frank at rezultat.dk Wed Jul 9 06:01:26 2008 From: frank at rezultat.dk (Frank Riedel) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 15:01:26 +0200 Subject: [simpits-tech] Cessna 182 Project In-Reply-To: <0K3O00BEWGJ62H00@smtp5.clear.net.nz> References: <3a0a6c680807070527r5fffe32dsbdae6a1c1d30d31b@mail.gmail.com><39e5de8d0807070715u39ed812aq6a0c53a94bef9981@mail.gmail.com><004601c8e03d$221f1b70$0401a8c0@frankzepto> <0K3O00BEWGJ62H00@smtp5.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: <009f01c8e1c3$fb861580$6600a8c0@frankzepto> Nice to know - when it comes to G's WWII Cockpit and with MS Combat simulator it could be nice.... Frank -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] P? vegne af Sean Galbraith Sendt: 8. juli 2008 09:54 Til: Simulator Cockpit tech list Emne: Re: [simpits-tech] Cessna 182 Project At 02:37 a.m. 8/07/2008, you wrote: > > Anybody tested 2x matroxTrippleHead2Go on 2 VGA cards in 1 PC ???? > > > >I don't see why that wouldn't work quite well. The TH2G just looks like a >big display to the VGA card. You'd need to make sure the simulator could >keep up a good frame rate and the kinds of resolutions you'd have >available. I have done 2 x TH2GO on one video card, and it works fine, big resolution and all :) Be aware that if you run 2 cards with a TH2GO each then you will have 2 separate windows to deal with, rather than one mega-wide view. When I played with the 2 on one card thing I spanned both views..... kinda cool having 6 monitors on your desk..... SeanG _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From geneb at deltasoft.com Wed Jul 9 06:57:08 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 06:57:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Cessna 182 Project In-Reply-To: <009f01c8e1c3$fb861580$6600a8c0@frankzepto> References: <3a0a6c680807070527r5fffe32dsbdae6a1c1d30d31b@mail.gmail.com><39e5de8d0807070715u39ed812aq6a0c53a94bef9981@mail.gmail.com><004601c8e03d$221f1b70$0401a8c0@frankzepto> <0K3O00BEWGJ62H00@smtp5.clear.net.nz> <009f01c8e1c3$fb861580$6600a8c0@frankzepto> Message-ID: > Nice to know - when it comes to G's WWII Cockpit and with MS Combat > simulator it could be nice.... > Right now I'm seriously considering adding a windscreen and canopy frame to the project. What do you guys think? Worth the time? g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From cyplesma at aol.com Wed Jul 9 07:21:45 2008 From: cyplesma at aol.com (cyplesma at aol.com) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 10:21:45 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] Cessna 182 Project In-Reply-To: References: <3a0a6c680807070527r5fffe32dsbdae6a1c1d30d31b@mail.gmail.com><39e5de8d0807070715u39ed812aq6a0c53a94bef9981@mail.gmail.com><004601c8e03d$221f1b70$0401a8c0@frankzepto> <0K3O00BEWGJ62H00@smtp5.clear.net.nz> <009f01c8e1c3$fb861580$6600a8c0@frankzepto> Message-ID: <8CAAFE6401776AD-11C0-B37@FWM-M43.sysops.aol.com> might add a bit more realism trying to see the "world" through a canopy -----Original Message----- From: Gene Buckle To: Simulator Cockpit tech list Sent: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 9:57 am Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Cessna 182 Project > Nice to know - when it comes to G's WWII Cockpit and with MS Combat > simulator it could be nice.... > Right now I'm seriously considering adding a windscreen and canopy frame to the project. What do you guys think? Worth the time? g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080709/6f71a6c6/attachment.html From bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil Wed Jul 9 07:33:18 2008 From: bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil (Brian Sikkema) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 10:33:18 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] Cessna 182 Project Message-ID: <5b0598118547435faa443d2e0c09670d.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> I think I'd add it as an option. >------- Original Message ------- >From : Gene Buckle[mailto:geneb at deltasoft.com] >Sent : 7/9/2008 9:57:08 AM >To : simpits-tech at simpits.org >Cc : >Subject : RE: Re: [simpits-tech] Cessna 182 Project > >> Nice to know - when it comes to G's WWII Cockpit and with MS Combat > simulator it could be nice.... > Right now I'm seriously considering adding a windscreen and canopy frame to the project. What do you guys think? Worth the time? g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From geneb at deltasoft.com Wed Jul 9 08:01:04 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 08:01:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Cessna 182 Project In-Reply-To: <5b0598118547435faa443d2e0c09670d.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> References: <5b0598118547435faa443d2e0c09670d.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> Message-ID: On Wed, 9 Jul 2008, Brian Sikkema wrote: > I think I'd add it as an option. > > There is that. The way it's designed, I can easily change things that exist above the canopy rail. I can tell I've got some CAD work ahead of me. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From catalina299 at gmail.com Wed Jul 9 20:41:38 2008 From: catalina299 at gmail.com (William Segal) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 20:41:38 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] Cessna 182 Project In-Reply-To: <009f01c8e1c3$fb861580$6600a8c0@frankzepto> References: <3a0a6c680807070527r5fffe32dsbdae6a1c1d30d31b@mail.gmail.com> <39e5de8d0807070715u39ed812aq6a0c53a94bef9981@mail.gmail.com> <004601c8e03d$221f1b70$0401a8c0@frankzepto> <0K3O00BEWGJ62H00@smtp5.clear.net.nz> <009f01c8e1c3$fb861580$6600a8c0@frankzepto> Message-ID: <3a0a6c680807092041w782d8267s5ebe297cbcf39e7d@mail.gmail.com> I think Roy Coates is running dual 8800 thru a 3to go .I intend to use 6 24" LCD Monitors at 1600x1200 thru 2 of Nvidia'a new 280 cards SLI 16 2.0 in one computer at resolutions up to 2560x1600 EACH IN X-PLANE BILL On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 6:01 AM, Frank Riedel wrote: > Nice to know - when it comes to G's WWII Cockpit and with MS Combat > simulator it could be nice.... > > Frank > > -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > Fra: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org > [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] P? vegne af Sean Galbraith > Sendt: 8. juli 2008 09:54 > Til: Simulator Cockpit tech list > Emne: Re: [simpits-tech] Cessna 182 Project > > At 02:37 a.m. 8/07/2008, you wrote: > > > Anybody tested 2x matroxTrippleHead2Go on 2 VGA cards in 1 PC ???? > > > > > > >I don't see why that wouldn't work quite well. The TH2G just looks like a > >big display to the VGA card. You'd need to make sure the simulator could > >keep up a good frame rate and the kinds of resolutions you'd have > >available. > > I have done 2 x TH2GO on one video card, and it works fine, big > resolution and all :) Be aware that if you run 2 cards with a TH2GO > each then you will have 2 separate windows to deal with, rather than > one mega-wide view. When I played with the 2 on one card thing I > spanned both views..... kinda cool having 6 monitors on your desk..... > > SeanG > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. > Thanks! > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080709/509d1636/attachment.html From frank at rezultat.dk Fri Jul 11 17:12:58 2008 From: frank at rezultat.dk (Frank Riedel) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 02:12:58 +0200 Subject: [simpits-tech] R22 cockpit finished In-Reply-To: <0K3O00BEWGJ62H00@smtp5.clear.net.nz> References: <3a0a6c680807070527r5fffe32dsbdae6a1c1d30d31b@mail.gmail.com><39e5de8d0807070715u39ed812aq6a0c53a94bef9981@mail.gmail.com><004601c8e03d$221f1b70$0401a8c0@frankzepto> <0K3O00BEWGJ62H00@smtp5.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: <000f01c8e3b4$0a6356c0$0401a8c0@frankzepto> R22 sim finished... sneak peak - here http://www.rezultat.dk/i-r22.htm Don't try to read the Danish - just look pic and the video I got the controller to work just as the R22 (spoken as a helipilot) It's wonderful as a trainer /Frank From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Fri Jul 11 16:22:37 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 00:22:37 +0100 (BST) Subject: [simpits-tech] R22 cockpit finished In-Reply-To: <000f01c8e3b4$0a6356c0$0401a8c0@frankzepto> Message-ID: On Sat, 12 Jul 2008, Frank Riedel wrote: > R22 sim finished... sneak peak - here http://www.rezultat.dk/i-r22.htm > Don't try to read the Danish - just look pic and the video > > I got the controller to work just as the R22 (spoken as a helipilot) > It's wonderful as a trainer Congrats Frank !! I know you've put a lot of effort into that and it looks superb. How about a few photo's and some 'how I did it' text for us nosey people? ;-) All the best, Roy. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From rd at ns.sympatico.ca Fri Jul 11 17:21:09 2008 From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 21:21:09 -0300 Subject: [simpits-tech] R22 cockpit finished References: <3a0a6c680807070527r5fffe32dsbdae6a1c1d30d31b@mail.gmail.com><39e5de8d0807070715u39ed812aq6a0c53a94bef9981@mail.gmail.com><004601c8e03d$221f1b70$0401a8c0@frankzepto><0K3O00BEWGJ62H00@smtp5.clear.net.nz> <000f01c8e3b4$0a6356c0$0401a8c0@frankzepto> Message-ID: <007701c8e3b5$2ecb99e0$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> Very, very, nice job! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Riedel" To: "'Simulator Cockpit tech list'" Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 9:12 PM Subject: [simpits-tech] R22 cockpit finished > R22 sim finished... sneak peak - here http://www.rezultat.dk/i-r22.htm > Don't try to read the Danish - just look pic and the video > > I got the controller to work just as the R22 (spoken as a helipilot) > It's wonderful as a trainer > > > /Frank > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! From surfer.man at free.fr Sat Jul 12 01:56:04 2008 From: surfer.man at free.fr (Jean-Yves Surfin') Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 10:56:04 +0200 Subject: [simpits-tech] R22 cockpit finished In-Reply-To: <000f01c8e3b4$0a6356c0$0401a8c0@frankzepto> References: <3a0a6c680807070527r5fffe32dsbdae6a1c1d30d31b@mail.gmail.com><39e5de8d0807070715u39ed812aq6a0c53a94bef9981@mail.gmail.com><004601c8e03d$221f1b70$0401a8c0@frankzepto> <0K3O00BEWGJ62H00@smtp5.clear.net.nz> <000f01c8e3b4$0a6356c0$0401a8c0@frankzepto> Message-ID: <000601c8e3fd$1de83f50$59b8bdf0$@man@free.fr> Hi Love the "hey, follow that truck.." scene in the middle video (around 00:26'') Why my cannon are jammed and doesn?t shoot!!! Really congrats to you. In addition to the sim, you are lucky to have a multi screen environment and... enough space to put all ! Bye and maybe soon for a ride ! See u Jean-Yves -----Message d'origine----- De?: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] De la part de Frank Riedel Envoy??: samedi 12 juillet 2008 02:13 ??: 'Simulator Cockpit tech list' Objet?: [simpits-tech] R22 cockpit finished R22 sim finished... sneak peak - here http://www.rezultat.dk/i-r22.htm Don't try to read the Danish - just look pic and the video I got the controller to work just as the R22 (spoken as a helipilot) It's wonderful as a trainer /Frank _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From frank at rezultat.dk Sat Jul 12 02:02:11 2008 From: frank at rezultat.dk (Frank Riedel) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 11:02:11 +0200 Subject: [simpits-tech] R22 cockpit finished In-Reply-To: <000601c8e3fd$1de83f50$59b8bdf0$@man@free.fr> References: <3a0a6c680807070527r5fffe32dsbdae6a1c1d30d31b@mail.gmail.com><39e5de8d0807070715u39ed812aq6a0c53a94bef9981@mail.gmail.com><004601c8e03d$221f1b70$0401a8c0@frankzepto> <0K3O00BEWGJ62H00@smtp5.clear.net.nz><000f01c8e3b4$0a6356c0$0401a8c0@frankzepto> <000601c8e3fd$1de83f50$59b8bdf0$@man@free.fr> Message-ID: <000301c8e3fd$f8d8d4d0$0401a8c0@frankzepto> Agree to the truck ;o) Hope there will, in the future be a combat heli sim to be able to Use multi screen and MFDs.... then I'll build the cockpit... More pic will be released soon Frank -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] P? vegne af Jean-Yves Surfin' Sendt: 12. juli 2008 10:56 Til: 'Simulator Cockpit tech list' Emne: [Spam] Re: [simpits-tech] R22 cockpit finished Hi Love the "hey, follow that truck.." scene in the middle video (around 00:26'') Why my cannon are jammed and doesn?t shoot!!! Really congrats to you. In addition to the sim, you are lucky to have a multi screen environment and... enough space to put all ! Bye and maybe soon for a ride ! See u Jean-Yves -----Message d'origine----- De?: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] De la part de Frank Riedel Envoy??: samedi 12 juillet 2008 02:13 ??: 'Simulator Cockpit tech list' Objet?: [simpits-tech] R22 cockpit finished R22 sim finished... sneak peak - here http://www.rezultat.dk/i-r22.htm Don't try to read the Danish - just look pic and the video I got the controller to work just as the R22 (spoken as a helipilot) It's wonderful as a trainer /Frank _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From surfer.man at free.fr Sat Jul 12 02:10:43 2008 From: surfer.man at free.fr (Jean-Yves Surfin') Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 11:10:43 +0200 Subject: [simpits-tech] R22 cockpit finished In-Reply-To: <000301c8e3fd$f8d8d4d0$0401a8c0@frankzepto> References: <3a0a6c680807070527r5fffe32dsbdae6a1c1d30d31b@mail.gmail.com><39e5de8d0807070715u39ed812aq6a0c53a94bef9981@mail.gmail.com><004601c8e03d$221f1b70$0401a8c0@frankzepto> <0K3O00BEWGJ62H00@smtp5.clear.net.nz><000f01c8e3b4$0a6356c0$0401a8c0@frankzepto> <000601c8e3fd$1de83f50$59b8bdf0$@man@free.fr> <000301c8e3fd$f8d8d4d0$0401a8c0@frankzepto> Message-ID: <000701c8e3ff$29cd38a0$7d67a9e0$@man@free.fr> Whaooh.. So great it will be. An Apache or, as we are European, a Tiger.. Bye Jean-Yves I wish it will not Airwolf :-) -----Message d'origine----- De?: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] De la part de Frank Riedel Envoy??: samedi 12 juillet 2008 11:02 ??: 'Simulator Cockpit tech list' Objet?: Re: [simpits-tech] R22 cockpit finished Agree to the truck ;o) Hope there will, in the future be a combat heli sim to be able to Use multi screen and MFDs.... then I'll build the cockpit... More pic will be released soon Frank -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] P? vegne af Jean-Yves Surfin' Sendt: 12. juli 2008 10:56 Til: 'Simulator Cockpit tech list' Emne: [Spam] Re: [simpits-tech] R22 cockpit finished Hi Love the "hey, follow that truck.." scene in the middle video (around 00:26'') Why my cannon are jammed and doesn?t shoot!!! Really congrats to you. In addition to the sim, you are lucky to have a multi screen environment and... enough space to put all ! Bye and maybe soon for a ride ! See u Jean-Yves -----Message d'origine----- De?: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] De la part de Frank Riedel Envoy??: samedi 12 juillet 2008 02:13 ??: 'Simulator Cockpit tech list' Objet?: [simpits-tech] R22 cockpit finished R22 sim finished... sneak peak - here http://www.rezultat.dk/i-r22.htm Don't try to read the Danish - just look pic and the video I got the controller to work just as the R22 (spoken as a helipilot) It's wonderful as a trainer /Frank _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. 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From echotech1452 at gmail.com Sat Jul 12 07:26:16 2008 From: echotech1452 at gmail.com (delor lauchang) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 10:26:16 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] Cessna 182 Project In-Reply-To: <3a0a6c680807070527r5fffe32dsbdae6a1c1d30d31b@mail.gmail.com> References: <3a0a6c680807070527r5fffe32dsbdae6a1c1d30d31b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: thats true,but bigger monitors are becoming cheaper, so i might opt to go for the big widescreen and stretch my field of view, might end up using a 32 or 37 for my instrument panels and 42 to 50 for the scenery.plus on top of that, newer software are coming out from simmers who are programmers, and we have lots of new gauges that are working based on how you want to configure them. On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 8:27 AM, William Segal wrote: > > I can't help you but I will be following your progress. One I thing know > Matrox is coming out with a single card that will support 4 monitors at up > to 1600x1200 most likely in XP. > > &MSFS > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080712/6a758d83/attachment.html From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Sat Jul 12 07:38:44 2008 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 07:38:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] R22 cockpit finished In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <544177.54000.qm@web52001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Frank, that is fantastic! There is no better way to enjoy the scenery than with a helicopter or an ultralight. ? Im going to forward your video link to my brother who?is currently pruchasing a real US Army AH-1 Cobra simulator and should have it home in a few weeks.? It is 14 feet long! We are still trying to decide what software will be the best for it. ? Justin ? ? From: "Frank Riedel" To: "'Simulator Cockpit tech list'" R22 sim finished... sneak peak - here http://www.rezultat.dk/i-r22.htm Don't try to read the Danish - just look pic and the video I got the controller to work just as the R22 (spoken as a helipilot) It's wonderful as a trainer /Frank ? Air Force One?Simulator?? ?????????? ??www.707sim.com????? ? ?=Blue Angel?Flight Simulator ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080712/1ae3c3c6/attachment.html From frank at rezultat.dk Sat Jul 12 08:17:33 2008 From: frank at rezultat.dk (Frank Riedel) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 17:17:33 +0200 Subject: [simpits-tech] R22 cockpit finished In-Reply-To: <544177.54000.qm@web52001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <544177.54000.qm@web52001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004401c8e432$68fc6bd0$0401a8c0@frankzepto> Thanks Justin . My dream is to build a combat helo but there is no software to make it on same level as my F-16 simulators as for combat helo we need 180dg view and fully working MFDs Let me know if you come across news in this direction Frank _____ Fra: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] P? vegne af Justin Messenger Sendt: 12. juli 2008 16:39 Til: simpits-tech at simpits.org Emne: [simpits-tech] R22 cockpit finished Frank, that is fantastic! There is no better way to enjoy the scenery than with a helicopter or an ultralight. Im going to forward your video link to my brother who is currently pruchasing a real US Army AH-1 Cobra simulator and should have it home in a few weeks. It is 14 feet long! We are still trying to decide what software will be the best for it. Justin From: "Frank Riedel" To: "'Simulator Cockpit tech list'" R22 sim finished... sneak peak - here http://www.rezultat.dk/i-r22.htm Don't try to read the Danish - just look pic and the video I got the controller to work just as the R22 (spoken as a helipilot) It's wonderful as a trainer /Frank Air Force One Simulator www.707sim.com =Blue Angel Flight Simulator -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080712/897a927c/attachment.html From catalina299 at gmail.com Sat Jul 12 13:16:48 2008 From: catalina299 at gmail.com (William Segal) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 13:16:48 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] Cessna 182 Project In-Reply-To: References: <3a0a6c680807070527r5fffe32dsbdae6a1c1d30d31b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3a0a6c680807121316t75c908acs8904a278e423ecc0@mail.gmail.com> I have a friend with small store that sells TV's to apartment house&hotels he let me test a 52" LCD TV `1980x``1080 raw resolution but the issue is at least in X-plane there is no resolution of thattype its basically 4:3 or 16:9 so even though you think your getting that big resolution the best you can get is or similar to 1280x720 which on that large a screen can be not as nice a picture as I can get on cheap 19" LCD's which give you 1280x1024 the only advantage the big screen has is there are no cockpit lines and the front window view can be clear one piece regards Bill On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 7:26 AM, delor lauchang wrote: > thats true,but bigger monitors are becoming cheaper, so i might opt to go > for the big widescreen and stretch my field of view, might end up using a 32 > or 37 for my instrument panels and 42 to 50 for the scenery.plus on top of > that, newer software are coming out from simmers who are programmers, and we > have lots of new gauges that are working based on how you want to configure > them. > > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 8:27 AM, William Segal > wrote: > >> >> I can't help you but I will be following your progress. One I thing know >> Matrox is coming out with a single card that will support 4 monitors at up >> to 1600x1200 most likely in XP. >> >> &MSFS >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Simpits-tech mailing list >> Simpits-tech at simpits.org >> http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >> To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above >> page. Thanks! >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080712/f30e1aa1/attachment-0001.html From lestatandakasha at msn.com Sat Jul 12 13:17:52 2008 From: lestatandakasha at msn.com (Jamie) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 21:17:52 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] R22 cockpit finished In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: agreed, as a fello rotorhead id love that. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Roy Coates" Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 12:22 AM To: "Simulator Cockpit tech list" Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] R22 cockpit finished > On Sat, 12 Jul 2008, Frank Riedel wrote: > >> R22 sim finished... sneak peak - here http://www.rezultat.dk/i-r22.htm >> Don't try to read the Danish - just look pic and the video >> >> I got the controller to work just as the R22 (spoken as a helipilot) >> It's wonderful as a trainer > > > Congrats Frank !! > > I know you've put a lot of effort into that and it looks superb. > > How about a few photo's and some 'how I did it' text for us nosey people? > ;-) > > All the best, > > Roy. > > > -- > > Roy Coates. > Dept of Engineering. > Liverpool University. > E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk > Tel: 0151 794 4862 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs > meter. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > From echotech1452 at gmail.com Sat Jul 12 15:09:11 2008 From: echotech1452 at gmail.com (delor lauchang) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 18:09:11 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] Cessna 182 Project In-Reply-To: <3a0a6c680807121316t75c908acs8904a278e423ecc0@mail.gmail.com> References: <3a0a6c680807070527r5fffe32dsbdae6a1c1d30d31b@mail.gmail.com> <3a0a6c680807121316t75c908acs8904a278e423ecc0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: if you use ati radeon graphics cards, catalyst can force the issue of wider range resolution without straining the monitor, if what you got is a tv thats pc compatible. on xplane try 16:9 and adjust your resoltion thru catalyst, if youre using ati radeon video cards, iam using three 512 dual display radeon pro. even with falcon 4.0 af, with the panel software, it works good. On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 4:16 PM, William Segal wrote: > I have a friend with small store that sells TV's to apartment house&hotels > he let me test a 52" LCD TV `1980x``1080 raw resolution but the issue is at > least in X-plane there is no resolution of thattype its basically 4:3 or > 16:9 so even though you think your getting that big resolution the best you > can get is or similar to 1280x720 which on that large a screen can be > not as nice a picture as I can get on cheap 19" LCD's which give you > 1280x1024 the only advantage the big screen has is there are no cockpit > lines and the front window > view can be clear one piece > > regards > > Bill > > > > > On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 7:26 AM, delor lauchang > wrote: > >> thats true,but bigger monitors are becoming cheaper, so i might opt to go >> for the big widescreen and stretch my field of view, might end up using a 32 >> or 37 for my instrument panels and 42 to 50 for the scenery.plus on top of >> that, newer software are coming out from simmers who are programmers, and we >> have lots of new gauges that are working based on how you want to configure >> them. >> >> On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 8:27 AM, William Segal >> wrote: >> >>> >>> I can't help you but I will be following your progress. One I thing know >>> Matrox is coming out with a single card that will support 4 monitors at up >>> to 1600x1200 most likely in XP. >>> >>> &MSFS >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Simpits-tech mailing list >>> Simpits-tech at simpits.org >>> http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >>> To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above >>> page. Thanks! >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Simpits-tech mailing list >> Simpits-tech at simpits.org >> http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >> To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above >> page. Thanks! >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080712/ebf0dd6e/attachment.html From frank at rezultat.dk Sat Jul 12 16:02:00 2008 From: frank at rezultat.dk (Frank Riedel) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 01:02:00 +0200 Subject: [simpits-tech] Cessna 182 Project In-Reply-To: References: <3a0a6c680807070527r5fffe32dsbdae6a1c1d30d31b@mail.gmail.com><3a0a6c680807121316t75c908acs8904a278e423ecc0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000f01c8e473$5cf0b530$0401a8c0@frankzepto> Please Delor Explain how your Falcon setup is and how you run it ! Frank _____ Fra: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] P? vegne af delor lauchang Sendt: 13. juli 2008 00:09 Til: Simulator Cockpit tech list Emne: Re: [simpits-tech] Cessna 182 Project if you use ati radeon graphics cards, catalyst can force the issue of wider range resolution without straining the monitor, if what you got is a tv thats pc compatible. on xplane try 16:9 and adjust your resoltion thru catalyst, if youre using ati radeon video cards, iam using three 512 dual display radeon pro. even with falcon 4.0 af, with the panel software, it works good. On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 4:16 PM, William Segal wrote: I have a friend with small store that sells TV's to apartment house&hotels he let me test a 52" LCD TV `1980x``1080 raw resolution but the issue is at least in X-plane there is no resolution of that type its basically 4:3 or 16:9 so even though you think your getting that big resolution the best you can get is or similar to 1280x720 which on that large a screen can be not as nice a picture as I can get on cheap 19" LCD's which give you 1280x1024 the only advantage the big screen has is there are no cockpit lines and the front window view can be clear one piece regards Bill On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 7:26 AM, delor lauchang wrote: thats true,but bigger monitors are becoming cheaper, so i might opt to go for the big widescreen and stretch my field of view, might end up using a 32 or 37 for my instrument panels and 42 to 50 for the scenery.plus on top of that, newer software are coming out from simmers who are programmers, and we have lots of new gauges that are working based on how you want to configure them. On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 8:27 AM, William Segal wrote: I can't help you but I will be following your progress. One I thing know Matrox is coming out with a single card that will support 4 monitors at up to 1600x1200 most likely in XP. &MSFS _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. 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One I thing know > Matrox is coming out with a single card that will support 4 monitors at up > to 1600x1200 most likely in XP. > > &MSFS > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080713/bda2fe90/attachment-0001.html From frank at rezultat.dk Mon Jul 14 00:14:47 2008 From: frank at rezultat.dk (Frank Riedel) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:14:47 +0200 Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX In-Reply-To: References: <3a0a6c680807070527r5fffe32dsbdae6a1c1d30d31b@mail.gmail.com><3a0a6c680807121316t75c908acs8904a278e423ecc0@mail.gmail.com><000f01c8e473$5cf0b530$0401a8c0@frankzepto> Message-ID: <000c01c8e581$4cf92f40$0401a8c0@frankzepto> Hi All Yea i know. this has been discussed a lot of times But.. 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URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080714/f03b1a4a/attachment.html From idekkers at gmail.com Mon Jul 14 00:32:39 2008 From: idekkers at gmail.com (Ido Dekkers) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:32:39 +0300 Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX In-Reply-To: <000c01c8e581$4cf92f40$0401a8c0@frankzepto> References: <3a0a6c680807070527r5fffe32dsbdae6a1c1d30d31b@mail.gmail.com> <3a0a6c680807121316t75c908acs8904a278e423ecc0@mail.gmail.com> <000f01c8e473$5cf0b530$0401a8c0@frankzepto> <000c01c8e581$4cf92f40$0401a8c0@frankzepto> Message-ID: <39e5de8d0807140032h24780acas322871abee15d4b9@mail.gmail.com> a single quad core should be enough, and probably 4GB of RAM the problem with graphics is the display card/s you would probably need at least 2 high end card in SLI/Crossfire you'll have to get either 2 Nvidia 9800 or even better 2 Nvidia 280, or if you really swim in money - 3 of them or if you prefer the alternative - get the new ATI/AMD 4870 and if which cost about half or even less but loose only a bit in speed, these also come in 2 or 3 card configuration. or you can wait for the 4870X2 with 2 GPU's on each card - that should be out by august, and still cost a lot less them the NV280 but run faster. you can read about it here : http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-4870,1964.html the only problem is that for both new card - the 4870 and 260/280 the drivers for FSX are not mature yet Ido On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Frank Riedel wrote: > Hi All > Yea i know? this has been discussed a lot of times > > But?. To be able to run FSX with full detail and other slider all the way > to the right > > What hardware will be the ultimate solution?. A dual QUAD processor and 8 > GBRAM > > If yes? what graphic card then ??? > > > > Other suggestions ?? > > Regards > Frank > > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080714/618e7479/attachment.html From idekkers at gmail.com Mon Jul 14 00:33:22 2008 From: idekkers at gmail.com (Ido Dekkers) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:33:22 +0300 Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX In-Reply-To: <39e5de8d0807140032h24780acas322871abee15d4b9@mail.gmail.com> References: <3a0a6c680807070527r5fffe32dsbdae6a1c1d30d31b@mail.gmail.com> <3a0a6c680807121316t75c908acs8904a278e423ecc0@mail.gmail.com> <000f01c8e473$5cf0b530$0401a8c0@frankzepto> <000c01c8e581$4cf92f40$0401a8c0@frankzepto> <39e5de8d0807140032h24780acas322871abee15d4b9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <39e5de8d0807140033y698eb5ffm8258f1d259c2476e@mail.gmail.com> Oh and ofcourse you need a compatible board On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Ido Dekkers wrote: > a single quad core should be enough, > and probably 4GB of RAM > the problem with graphics is the display card/s you would probably need at > least 2 high end card in SLI/Crossfire > you'll have to get either 2 Nvidia 9800 or even better 2 Nvidia 280, or if > you really swim in money - 3 of them > or if you prefer the alternative - get the new ATI/AMD 4870 and if which > cost about half or even less but loose only a bit in speed, > these also come in 2 or 3 card configuration. > or you can wait for the 4870X2 with 2 GPU's on each card - that should be > out by august, and still cost a lot less them the NV280 but run faster. > you can read about it here : > http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-4870,1964.html > > the only problem is that for both new card - the 4870 and 260/280 the > drivers for FSX are not mature yet > > Ido > > On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Frank Riedel wrote: > >> Hi All >> Yea i know? this has been discussed a lot of times >> >> But?. To be able to run FSX with full detail and other slider all the way >> to the right >> >> What hardware will be the ultimate solution?. A dual QUAD processor and 8 >> GBRAM >> >> If yes? what graphic card then ??? >> >> >> >> Other suggestions ?? >> >> Regards >> Frank >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Simpits-tech mailing list >> Simpits-tech at simpits.org >> http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >> To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above >> page. Thanks! >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080714/6d54e9ba/attachment.html From frank at rezultat.dk Mon Jul 14 00:53:09 2008 From: frank at rezultat.dk (Frank Riedel) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:53:09 +0200 Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX In-Reply-To: <39e5de8d0807140033y698eb5ffm8258f1d259c2476e@mail.gmail.com> References: <3a0a6c680807070527r5fffe32dsbdae6a1c1d30d31b@mail.gmail.com><3a0a6c680807121316t75c908acs8904a278e423ecc0@mail.gmail.com><000f01c8e473$5cf0b530$0401a8c0@frankzepto><000c01c8e581$4cf92f40$0401a8c0@frankzepto><39e5de8d0807140032h24780acas322871abee15d4b9@mail.gmail.com> <39e5de8d0807140033y698eb5ffm8258f1d259c2476e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002901c8e586$a8d467d0$0401a8c0@frankzepto> Thx Ido Board ? is that a motherboard?? /Frank _____ Fra: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] P? vegne af Ido Dekkers Sendt: 14. juli 2008 09:33 Til: Simulator Cockpit tech list Emne: Re: [simpits-tech] FSX Oh and ofcourse you need a compatible board On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Ido Dekkers wrote: a single quad core should be enough, and probably 4GB of RAM the problem with graphics is the display card/s you would probably need at least 2 high end card in SLI/Crossfire you'll have to get either 2 Nvidia 9800 or even better 2 Nvidia 280, or if you really swim in money - 3 of them or if you prefer the alternative - get the new ATI/AMD 4870 and if which cost about half or even less but loose only a bit in speed, these also come in 2 or 3 card configuration. or you can wait for the 4870X2 with 2 GPU's on each card - that should be out by august, and still cost a lot less them the NV280 but run faster. you can read about it here : http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-4870,1964.html the only problem is that for both new card - the 4870 and 260/280 the drivers for FSX are not mature yet Ido On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Frank Riedel wrote: Hi All Yea i know this has been discussed a lot of times But . To be able to run FSX with full detail and other slider all the way to the right What hardware will be the ultimate solution . A dual QUAD processor and 8 GBRAM If yes what graphic card then ??? Other suggestions ?? Regards Frank _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080714/ef610812/attachment-0001.html From idekkers at gmail.com Mon Jul 14 01:07:38 2008 From: idekkers at gmail.com (Ido Dekkers) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:07:38 +0300 Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX In-Reply-To: <002901c8e586$a8d467d0$0401a8c0@frankzepto> References: <3a0a6c680807121316t75c908acs8904a278e423ecc0@mail.gmail.com> <000f01c8e473$5cf0b530$0401a8c0@frankzepto> <000c01c8e581$4cf92f40$0401a8c0@frankzepto> <39e5de8d0807140032h24780acas322871abee15d4b9@mail.gmail.com> <39e5de8d0807140033y698eb5ffm8258f1d259c2476e@mail.gmail.com> <002901c8e586$a8d467d0$0401a8c0@frankzepto> Message-ID: <39e5de8d0807140107j34dd5ef0h9c96ed514ee25df1@mail.gmail.com> yup, if you want to use Nvidia cards, you need to use a board with an Nvidia chipset, and if you want to use ATI cards you need an Intel chipset for Nvidia you should get the 790i chipset and for intel the X58 BUT - it depends on how urgent the computer buy is ? if you can wait till October/November - Intel are going to have a new architecture for the CPU with completely new boards and CPUs so if you can wait - do. On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Frank Riedel wrote: > Thx Ido > Board ? is that a motherboard?? > > /Frank > > > ------------------------------ > > *Fra:* simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto: > simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] *P? vegne af *Ido Dekkers > *Sendt:* 14. juli 2008 09:33 > *Til:* Simulator Cockpit tech list > *Emne:* Re: [simpits-tech] FSX > > > > Oh and ofcourse you need a compatible board > > On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Ido Dekkers wrote: > > a single quad core should be enough, > and probably 4GB of RAM > the problem with graphics is the display card/s you would probably need at > least 2 high end card in SLI/Crossfire > you'll have to get either 2 Nvidia 9800 or even better 2 Nvidia 280, or if > you really swim in money - 3 of them > or if you prefer the alternative - get the new ATI/AMD 4870 and if which > cost about half or even less but loose only a bit in speed, > these also come in 2 or 3 card configuration. > or you can wait for the 4870X2 with 2 GPU's on each card - that should be > out by august, and still cost a lot less them the NV280 but run faster. > you can read about it here : > http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-4870,1964.html > > the only problem is that for both new card - the 4870 and 260/280 the > drivers for FSX are not mature yet > > Ido > > On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Frank Riedel wrote: > > Hi All > Yea i know? this has been discussed a lot of times > > But?. To be able to run FSX with full detail and other slider all the way > to the right > > What hardware will be the ultimate solution?. A dual QUAD processor and 8 > GBRAM > > If yes? what graphic card then ??? > > > > Other suggestions ?? > > Regards > Frank > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080714/98335984/attachment.html From frank at rezultat.dk Mon Jul 14 03:17:34 2008 From: frank at rezultat.dk (Frank Riedel) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:17:34 +0200 Subject: [simpits-tech] [Spam] Re: FSX In-Reply-To: <39e5de8d0807140107j34dd5ef0h9c96ed514ee25df1@mail.gmail.com> References: <3a0a6c680807121316t75c908acs8904a278e423ecc0@mail.gmail.com><000f01c8e473$5cf0b530$0401a8c0@frankzepto><000c01c8e581$4cf92f40$0401a8c0@frankzepto><39e5de8d0807140032h24780acas322871abee15d4b9@mail.gmail.com><39e5de8d0807140033y698eb5ffm8258f1d259c2476e@mail.gmail.com><002901c8e586$a8d467d0$0401a8c0@frankzepto> <39e5de8d0807140107j34dd5ef0h9c96ed514ee25df1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <004801c8e59a$e74210d0$0401a8c0@frankzepto> Read you ? thanks so no more matrox TH2G to use 3 screen or ????? /Frank _____ Fra: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] P? vegne af Ido Dekkers Sendt: 14. juli 2008 10:08 Til: Simulator Cockpit tech list Emne: [Spam] Re: [simpits-tech] FSX yup, if you want to use Nvidia cards, you need to use a board with an Nvidia chipset, and if you want to use ATI cards you need an Intel chipset for Nvidia you should get the 790i chipset and for intel the X58 BUT - it depends on how urgent the computer buy is ? if you can wait till October/November - Intel are going to have a new architecture for the CPU with completely new boards and CPUs so if you can wait - do. On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Frank Riedel wrote: Thx Ido Board ? is that a motherboard?? /Frank _____ Fra: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] P? vegne af Ido Dekkers Sendt: 14. juli 2008 09:33 Til: Simulator Cockpit tech list Emne: Re: [simpits-tech] FSX Oh and ofcourse you need a compatible board On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Ido Dekkers wrote: a single quad core should be enough, and probably 4GB of RAM the problem with graphics is the display card/s you would probably need at least 2 high end card in SLI/Crossfire you'll have to get either 2 Nvidia 9800 or even better 2 Nvidia 280, or if you really swim in money - 3 of them or if you prefer the alternative - get the new ATI/AMD 4870 and if which cost about half or even less but loose only a bit in speed, these also come in 2 or 3 card configuration. or you can wait for the 4870X2 with 2 GPU's on each card - that should be out by august, and still cost a lot less them the NV280 but run faster. you can read about it here : http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-4870,1964.html the only problem is that for both new card - the 4870 and 260/280 the drivers for FSX are not mature yet Ido On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Frank Riedel wrote: Hi All Yea i know this has been discussed a lot of times But . To be able to run FSX with full detail and other slider all the way to the right What hardware will be the ultimate solution . A dual QUAD processor and 8 GBRAM If yes what graphic card then ??? Other suggestions ?? Regards Frank _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080714/0aa19816/attachment-0001.html From idekkers at gmail.com Mon Jul 14 03:23:46 2008 From: idekkers at gmail.com (Ido Dekkers) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:23:46 +0300 Subject: [simpits-tech] [Spam] Re: FSX In-Reply-To: <004801c8e59a$e74210d0$0401a8c0@frankzepto> References: <000f01c8e473$5cf0b530$0401a8c0@frankzepto> <000c01c8e581$4cf92f40$0401a8c0@frankzepto> <39e5de8d0807140032h24780acas322871abee15d4b9@mail.gmail.com> <39e5de8d0807140033y698eb5ffm8258f1d259c2476e@mail.gmail.com> <002901c8e586$a8d467d0$0401a8c0@frankzepto> <39e5de8d0807140107j34dd5ef0h9c96ed514ee25df1@mail.gmail.com> <004801c8e59a$e74210d0$0401a8c0@frankzepto> Message-ID: <39e5de8d0807140323j3fcac633k7543bc3299b751d0@mail.gmail.com> it has nothing to do with the TH2G, the TH2G is connected to the computer as one wide display card, the computer does not know there are 3 monitors connected to it. and when you use either SLI or CrossFire you can only use one display port on the connected cards so you can plug the TH2G to that plug. mind you if you need more monitors accept for the ones you use with the TH2G, you'll need another display card. On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Frank Riedel wrote: > Read you ? thanks > > ? so no more matrox TH2G to use 3 screen or ????? > > /Frank > > > ------------------------------ > > *Fra:* simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto: > simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] *P? vegne af *Ido Dek > kers > *Sendt:* 14. juli 2008 10:08 > *Til:* Simulator Cockpit tech list > *Emne:* [Spam] Re: [simpits-tech] FSX > > > > yup, > > if you want to use Nvidia cards, you need to use a board with an Nvidia > chipset, > and if you want to use ATI cards you need an Intel chipset > > for Nvidia you should get the 790i chipset and for intel the X58 > > BUT - it depends on how urgent the computer buy is ? > if you can wait till October/November - Intel are going to have a new > architecture for the CPU with completely new boards and CPUs so if you can > wait - do. > > On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Frank Riedel wrote: > > Thx Ido > Board ? is that a motherboard?? > > /Frank > > > ------------------------------ > > *Fra:* simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto: > simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] *P? vegne af *Ido Dekkers > *Sendt:* 14. juli 2008 09:33 > *Til:* Simulator Cockpit tech list > *Emne:* Re: [simpits-tech] FSX > > > > Oh and ofcourse you need a compatible board > > On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Ido Dekkers wrote: > > a single quad core should be enough, > and probably 4GB of RAM > the problem with graphics is the display card/s you would probably need at > least 2 high end card in SLI/Crossfire > you'll have to get either 2 Nvidia 9800 or even better 2 Nvidia 280, or if > you really swim in money - 3 of them > or if you prefer the alternative - get the new ATI/AMD 4870 and if which > cost about half or even less but loose only a bit in speed, > these also come in 2 or 3 card configuration. > or you can wait for the 4870X2 with 2 GPU's on each card - that should be > out by august, and still cost a lot less them the NV280 but run faster. > you can read about it here : > http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-4870,1964.html > > the only problem is that for both new card - the 4870 and 260/280 the > drivers for FSX are not mature yet > > Ido > > On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Frank Riedel wrote: > > Hi All > Yea i know? this has been discussed a lot of times > > But?. To be able to run FSX with full detail and other slider all the way > to the right > > What hardware will be the ultimate solution?. A dual QUAD processor and 8 > GBRAM > > If yes? what graphic card then ??? > > > > Other suggestions ?? > > Regards > Frank > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080714/9a259632/attachment.html From echotech1452 at gmail.com Mon Jul 14 05:11:23 2008 From: echotech1452 at gmail.com (delor lauchang) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 08:11:23 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX In-Reply-To: <000c01c8e581$4cf92f40$0401a8c0@frankzepto> References: <3a0a6c680807070527r5fffe32dsbdae6a1c1d30d31b@mail.gmail.com> <3a0a6c680807121316t75c908acs8904a278e423ecc0@mail.gmail.com> <000f01c8e473$5cf0b530$0401a8c0@frankzepto> <000c01c8e581$4cf92f40$0401a8c0@frankzepto> Message-ID: Hi Frank, I stopped using my FSX for now, still with FS9. FSX is too demanding for the resources, yet it offers less gizmos. FS9 has less glitches yet has more applications thats suitable for todays hardware. For FSX to run smoothly like FS9, you may need two or three desktops with dual core, 512 video cards, with 2bg memory, run it on LAN, then distribute your scenery, instruments, and field of views into six monitors. your video card must be uniform so they will work well with each other and not scale down to the poorest frame rates. Hope this works, Delor On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 3:14 AM, Frank Riedel wrote: > Hi All > Yea i know? this has been discussed a lot of times > > But?. To be able to run FSX with full detail and other slider all the way > to the right > > What hardware will be the ultimate solution?. A dual QUAD processor and 8 > GBRAM > > If yes? what graphic card then ??? > > > > Other suggestions ?? > > Regards > Frank > > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080714/3aad1e17/attachment.html From catalina299 at gmail.com Mon Jul 14 10:37:22 2008 From: catalina299 at gmail.com (William Segal) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:37:22 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] FSX In-Reply-To: <000c01c8e581$4cf92f40$0401a8c0@frankzepto> References: <3a0a6c680807070527r5fffe32dsbdae6a1c1d30d31b@mail.gmail.com> <3a0a6c680807121316t75c908acs8904a278e423ecc0@mail.gmail.com> <000f01c8e473$5cf0b530$0401a8c0@frankzepto> <000c01c8e581$4cf92f40$0401a8c0@frankzepto> Message-ID: <3a0a6c680807141037s3e978a92y776fad7074b0fa32@mail.gmail.com> I did it with 2 dual core Opteron Processors 2.4 dual Geforce 7800GTX 512 megs and 3 gigs of ecc ram .Iam now running a Mac Pro with Dual quads and 3.2 Xeon processors and 16 gigs of ram +dual 8800 512 and the Opteron will run the dual quads into the ground .If you want a balls out system you can not buy it built you need to buy components and they are not cheap SuperMicro Motherboard require a server or workstation chasis MB $400 +processors $500/pair Chasis $400 video cards $1000/pair ECC ram $125 gig for Corasair 3 gigs ,Power supply 800watt super cool $200.Thad will run guaranteed or did run FS-X balls out everything to the max regard's Bill On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 12:14 AM, Frank Riedel wrote: > Hi All > Yea i know? this has been discussed a lot of times3.2m > > But?. To be able to run FSX with full detail and other slider all the way > to the right > > What hardware will be the ultimate solution?. A dual QUAD processor and 8 > GBRAM > > If yes? what graphic card then ??? > > > > Other suggestions ?? > > Regards > Frank > > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080714/8c53d102/attachment.html From allendc at qwest.net Mon Jul 21 13:53:25 2008 From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:53:25 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Hello, hello, hello Message-ID: <20080721205329.C684B22E4C8@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> Hello, hello, hello Is there anybody in there? Just nod if you can hear me. Is there anyone at home? David www.737FlightSim.com From idekkers at gmail.com Mon Jul 21 13:56:59 2008 From: idekkers at gmail.com (Ido Dekkers) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:56:59 +0200 Subject: [simpits-tech] Hello, hello, hello In-Reply-To: <20080721205329.C684B22E4C8@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> References: <20080721205329.C684B22E4C8@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: <39e5de8d0807211356g56ac0c3dscc24ed57946f06d@mail.gmail.com> nod On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 10:53 PM, David C. Allen wrote: > Hello, hello, hello > Is there anybody in there? > Just nod if you can hear me. > Is there anyone at home? > > David > www.737FlightSim.com > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080721/15e927cd/attachment.html From surfer.man at free.fr Mon Jul 21 14:11:56 2008 From: surfer.man at free.fr (Jean-Yves JOUANNY) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:11:56 +0200 Subject: [simpits-tech] Hello, hello, hello In-Reply-To: <20080721205329.C684B22E4C8@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> References: <20080721205329.C684B22E4C8@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: <004e01c8eb76$684a7ec0$38df7c40$@man@free.fr> Loud and Clear , Sir... -----Message d'origine----- De?: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] De la part de David C. Allen Envoy??: lundi 21 juillet 2008 22:53 ??: 737 Cockpit tech list Objet?: [simpits-tech] Hello, hello, hello Hello, hello, hello Is there anybody in there? Just nod if you can hear me. Is there anyone at home? David www.737FlightSim.com _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Jul 21 14:22:55 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:22:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Hello, hello, hello In-Reply-To: <20080721205329.C684B22E4C8@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> References: <20080721205329.C684B22E4C8@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: > Hello, hello, hello > Is there anybody in there? > Just nod if you can hear me. > Is there anyone at home? > Yep.... Who on this list has Beta Innovations hardware? g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From lestatandakasha at msn.com Mon Jul 21 14:32:34 2008 From: lestatandakasha at msn.com (Jamie) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:32:34 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] Hello, hello, hello In-Reply-To: <20080721205329.C684B22E4C8@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> References: <20080721205329.C684B22E4C8@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: receiving 5 by 5 -------------------------------------------------- From: "Gene Buckle" Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 10:22 PM To: "Simulator Cockpit tech list" Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Hello, hello, hello >> Hello, hello, hello >> Is there anybody in there? >> Just nod if you can hear me. >> Is there anyone at home? >> > > Yep.... > > Who on this list has Beta Innovations hardware? > > g. > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Jul 21 14:47:51 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:47:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Hello, hello, hello In-Reply-To: References: <20080721205329.C684B22E4C8@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: > receiving 5 by 5 > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is it such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? Ahem. :) Are you replying to Dave's ping, or my request to find BI users? g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From allendc at qwest.net Mon Jul 21 14:48:30 2008 From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:48:30 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Hello, hello, hello In-Reply-To: References: <20080721205329.C684B22E4C8@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: <20080721214835.7DEF86278DE@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net> Come on, Come on, Come on, now, I hear you're feeling down. Beta Innovations can ease your pain I'll need some information first. Just the basic facts. P-Lite and one each expansion 8 Analog output card David www.737FlightSim.com At 02:22 PM 7/21/2008 -0700, you wrote: > > Hello, hello, hello > > Is there anybody in there? > > Just nod if you can hear me. > > Is there anyone at home? > > > >Yep.... > >Who on this list has Beta Innovations hardware? > >g. From allendc at qwest.net Mon Jul 21 14:58:32 2008 From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:58:32 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Big Dog Message-ID: <20080721215839.0746A621DCB@mpls-qmqp-03.inet.qwest.net> Gene you need one to pack the thins in and out of man land! http://www.bostondynamics.com/content/sec.php?section=BigDog David www.737FlightSim.com From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Jul 21 15:03:34 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:03:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Hello, hello, hello In-Reply-To: <20080721214835.7DEF86278DE@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net> References: <20080721205329.C684B22E4C8@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> <20080721214835.7DEF86278DE@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: > Come on, Come on, Come on, now, > I hear you're feeling down. > Beta Innovations can ease your pain > > I'll need some information first. > Just the basic facts. > > P-Lite and one each expansion 8 Analog output card > *cracks up* Been huffing hydraulic fluid again David? :) You'd best spend some time practicing your Mad Lua Skillz, 'cause Cockpit Interface Master is going beta soon. Head over to http://www.lua.org and start yer learnin'. :) Right now (and I mean RIGHT THIS INSTANT), CIM supports FlightGear v1.0+, MSFS 98, 2000, 2002, 2004, FS X, Combat Flight Simulator 1, CFS 2, X-Plane v8.60+ and any version of IL2 that supports the DeviceLink protocol. Lock On: Modern Air Combat will be added during beta testing. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Jul 21 15:05:51 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:05:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Big Dog In-Reply-To: <20080721215839.0746A621DCB@mpls-qmqp-03.inet.qwest.net> References: <20080721215839.0746A621DCB@mpls-qmqp-03.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: On Mon, 21 Jul 2008, David C. Allen wrote: > Gene you need one to pack the thins in and out of man land! > Say what? What are thins, and why am I packing them? :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From allendc at qwest.net Mon Jul 21 15:05:59 2008 From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:05:59 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Big Dog pt2 Message-ID: <20080721220603.5CA91627861@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net> Looks like you could stack a 4x8 sheet of plywood on the back of Big Dog and have it deliver to the shopbot! http://www.bostondynamics.com/content/sec.php?section=BigDog David www.737FlightSim.com From allendc at qwest.net Mon Jul 21 15:08:52 2008 From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:08:52 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Big Dog In-Reply-To: References: <20080721215839.0746A621DCB@mpls-qmqp-03.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: <20080721220857.9724F6278D4@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net> At 03:05 PM 7/21/2008 -0700, you wrote: >On Mon, 21 Jul 2008, David C. Allen wrote: > > > Gene you need one to pack the thins in and out of man land! > > >Say what? What are thins, and why am I packing them? :) g They are what's left from Big's after shopboting David www.737FlightSim.com >g. > >-- >Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 >http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. >_______________________________________________ >Simpits-tech mailing list >Simpits-tech at simpits.org >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the >above page. Thanks! > > >__________ NOD32 3284 (20080721) Information __________ > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >http://www.eset.com From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Jul 21 15:13:51 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:13:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Big Dog pt2 In-Reply-To: <20080721220603.5CA91627861@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net> References: <20080721220603.5CA91627861@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: > Looks like you could stack a 4x8 sheet of plywood on the back of Big > Dog and have it deliver to the shopbot! > > http://www.bostondynamics.com/content/sec.php?section=BigDog > Waaay too Rube Goldburg for me. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From allendc at qwest.net Mon Jul 21 15:15:24 2008 From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:15:24 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Hello, hello, hello In-Reply-To: References: <20080721205329.C684B22E4C8@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> <20080721214835.7DEF86278DE@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: <20080721221530.203EF627FFA@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net> At 03:03 PM 7/21/2008 -0700, you wrote: > > Come on, Come on, Come on, now, > > I hear you're feeling down. > > Beta Innovations can ease your pain > > > > I'll need some information first. > > Just the basic facts. > > > > P-Lite and one each expansion 8 Analog output card > > >*cracks up* > >Been huffing hydraulic fluid again David? :) No, just riveting >You'd best spend some time practicing your Mad Lua Skillz, 'cause Cockpit >Interface Master is going beta soon. Head over to http://www.lua.org and >start yer learnin'. :) Start yer learnin? Jeb said Ellie May was the only one that needs learnin >Right now (and I mean RIGHT THIS INSTANT), CIM supports FlightGear v1.0+, >MSFS 98, 2000, 2002, 2004, FS X, Combat Flight Simulator 1, CFS 2, X-Plane >v8.60+ and any version of IL2 that supports the DeviceLink protocol. Lock >On: Modern Air Combat will be added during beta testing. Cool David www.737FlightSim.com From bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil Mon Jul 21 15:21:48 2008 From: bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil (Brian Sikkema) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:21:48 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] Hello, hello, hello Message-ID: <875e2ec2c8144f8c9f385117d50e1e6f.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> Gene, Gene, Gene... you show your hand so easily! Now I know another way to annoy you.... ;) > >> receiving 5 by 5 > >A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. >Q: Why is it such a bad thing? >A: Top-posting. >Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? >Ahem. :) From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Jul 21 15:28:23 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:28:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Hello, hello, hello In-Reply-To: <875e2ec2c8144f8c9f385117d50e1e6f.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> References: <875e2ec2c8144f8c9f385117d50e1e6f.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> Message-ID: > Gene, Gene, Gene... you show your hand so easily! Now > I know another way to annoy you.... ;) > ...says the kid with the huge "Darget Drone" sign painted on the tail of his airplane... :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From catalina299 at gmail.com Mon Jul 21 19:28:54 2008 From: catalina299 at gmail.com (William Segal) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:28:54 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] Big Dog pt2 In-Reply-To: References: <20080721220603.5CA91627861@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: <3a0a6c680807211928l2fd77dd0n59fde3b11de11f9c@mail.gmail.com> Gene You Spelled Goldberg wrong watch that he is family! Bill On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Gene Buckle wrote: > > Looks like you could stack a 4x8 sheet of plywood on the back of Big > > Dog and have it deliver to the shopbot! > > > > http://www.bostondynamics.com/content/sec.php?section=BigDog > > > Waaay too Rube Goldburg for me. :) > > g. > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080721/832e8883/attachment.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Jul 21 19:45:49 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:45:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Big Dog pt2 In-Reply-To: <3a0a6c680807211928l2fd77dd0n59fde3b11de11f9c@mail.gmail.com> References: <20080721220603.5CA91627861@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net> <3a0a6c680807211928l2fd77dd0n59fde3b11de11f9c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > Gene > You Spelled Goldberg wrong watch that he is family! > If he's annoyed enough to claw his way through the casket and up through 6 feet of dirt, I'll be happy to let him yell at me. ;) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From rhommel at mad.scientist.com Mon Jul 21 20:17:42 2008 From: rhommel at mad.scientist.com (Rob Hommel) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:17:42 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Big Dog pt2 Message-ID: <20080722031742.9EE2C1CE833@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> You guys do realize that this would leave me with less to do. You don't really think Gene packs 4X8 sheets of 3/4 do you? Keep 'em Flying RHommel ----- Original Message ----- From: "David C. Allen" To: "737 Cockpit tech list" Subject: [simpits-tech] Big Dog pt2 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:05:59 -0600 Looks like you could stack a 4x8 sheet of plywood on the back of Big Dog and have it deliver to the shopbot! http://www.bostondynamics.com/content/sec.php?section=BigDog David www.737FlightSim.com _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Jul 21 20:22:47 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:22:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Big Dog pt2 In-Reply-To: <20080722031742.9EE2C1CE833@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20080722031742.9EE2C1CE833@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: > You guys do realize that this would leave me with less to do. You don't > really think Gene packs 4X8 sheets of 3/4 do you? > Keep 'em Flying > RHommel > *Innocent Look* g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Mon Jul 21 20:36:37 2008 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Hello, hello, hello In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <261894.11258.qm@web52007.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Ive been a busy boy. The 53 foot long 727 fuselage section arrived on a simi truck Saturday. Today we removed the seats. So Ive not been home much. ?I'll get some pics posted soon. Justin On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 10:53 PM, David C. Allen wrote: Hello, hello, hello Is there anybody in there? Just nod if you can hear me. Is there anyone at home? David www.737FlightSim.com Air Force One?Simulator?? ?????????? ??www.707sim.com????? ? ?=Blue Angel?Flight Simulator ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080721/7a62a93c/attachment.html From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Mon Jul 21 20:47:24 2008 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:47:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Beta Innovations hardware In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <415157.74711.qm@web52011.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I do. Justin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ? Yep.... Who on this list has Beta Innovations hardware? g. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080721/cd08bf43/attachment.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Jul 21 21:02:50 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:02:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Beta Innovations hardware In-Reply-To: <415157.74711.qm@web52011.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <415157.74711.qm@web52011.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 21 Jul 2008, Justin Messenger wrote: > I do. > Justin Cool, more grist for the mill. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil Mon Jul 21 21:08:37 2008 From: bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil (Brian Sikkema) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 00:08:37 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] Hello, hello, hello Message-ID: <0fc34643dde945af83a9c6578ece4d9c.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> Hmm... 209klbs of JP8... I think I can spare a few thousand pounds to blanket over Casa Buckle.... ;) Dump Switch - Fuel Dump >;) >...says the kid with the huge "Darget Drone" sign painted on the tail of >his airplane... :) From sean.g at paradise.net.nz Mon Jul 21 21:53:31 2008 From: sean.g at paradise.net.nz (Sean Galbraith) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:53:31 +1200 Subject: [simpits-tech] Big Dog pt2 In-Reply-To: References: <20080722031742.9EE2C1CE833@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <0K4E00C3M5HWYT40@smtp5.clear.net.nz> > > >*Innocent Look* > >g. Yeah... like we're buying that! SeanG From crease-guard at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 21 23:16:53 2008 From: crease-guard at sbcglobal.net (Joseph Fagner) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:16:53 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Hello, hello, hello In-Reply-To: References: <20080721205329.C684B22E4C8@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: I pretty much have one of everything he makes. Jay -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Gene Buckle Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 4:23 PM To: Simulator Cockpit tech list Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Hello, hello, hello > Hello, hello, hello > Is there anybody in there? > Just nod if you can hear me. > Is there anyone at home? > Yep.... Who on this list has Beta Innovations hardware? g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From crease-guard at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 21 23:24:32 2008 From: crease-guard at sbcglobal.net (Joseph Fagner) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:24:32 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Big Dog pt2 In-Reply-To: <0K4E00C3M5HWYT40@smtp5.clear.net.nz> References: <20080722031742.9EE2C1CE833@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> <0K4E00C3M5HWYT40@smtp5.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: Am I the only one that has never seen that? That is the most impressive robot I've seen to date. Jay -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Sean Galbraith Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 11:54 PM To: Simulator Cockpit tech list Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Big Dog pt2 > > >*Innocent Look* > >g. Yeah... like we're buying that! SeanG _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Jul 22 06:24:48 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 06:24:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Hello, hello, hello In-Reply-To: <0fc34643dde945af83a9c6578ece4d9c.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> References: <0fc34643dde945af83a9c6578ece4d9c.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> Message-ID: On Tue, 22 Jul 2008, Brian Sikkema wrote: > Hmm... 209klbs of JP8... I think I can spare a few > thousand pounds to blanket over Casa Buckle.... ;) > > Dump Switch - Fuel Dump > Cool! Now I've got a use for that neat candle-on-a-long-stick thing I made last week. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Jul 22 06:25:40 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 06:25:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Hello, hello, hello In-Reply-To: References: <20080721205329.C684B22E4C8@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: > I pretty much have one of everything he makes. > You're already on my list Jay. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From bjones at pipecomp.com.au Tue Jul 22 06:30:56 2008 From: bjones at pipecomp.com.au (Ben Jones) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:30:56 +0800 Subject: [simpits-tech] Hello, hello, hello References: <20080721205329.C684B22E4C8@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: <007e01c8ebff$2d04b450$1d0a16ac@BenLaptop> ...... so in a round about way your looking for some beta testers gene?? regards Ben " The lurking Aussie " Jones ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Buckle" To: "Simulator Cockpit tech list" Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:25 PM Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Hello, hello, hello >> I pretty much have one of everything he makes. >> > You're already on my list Jay. :) > > g. > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Jul 22 06:51:44 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 06:51:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Hello, hello, hello In-Reply-To: <007e01c8ebff$2d04b450$1d0a16ac@BenLaptop> References: <20080721205329.C684B22E4C8@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> <007e01c8ebff$2d04b450$1d0a16ac@BenLaptop> Message-ID: > ...... so in a round about way your looking for some beta testers > gene?? > Oh there's nothing round-about about it. :) It'll be a few weeks yet. I'm waiting for some hardware to arrive so I can validate all the output code. It handles DirectX and BI input really well right now. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From allendc at qwest.net Tue Jul 22 08:22:05 2008 From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:22:05 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Hello, hello, hello In-Reply-To: References: <20080721205329.C684B22E4C8@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> <20080721214835.7DEF86278DE@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: <20080722152209.C05951AB969@mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net> >You'd best spend some time practicing your Mad Lua Skillz, 'cause Cockpit >Interface Master is going beta soon. Head over to http://www.lua.org and >start yer learnin'. :) g Ok so I went to the site. Do you have some sample code for the Analog Output? David www.737FlightSim.com From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Jul 22 08:59:03 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:59:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Hello, hello, hello In-Reply-To: <20080722152209.C05951AB969@mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net> References: <20080721205329.C684B22E4C8@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> <20080721214835.7DEF86278DE@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net> <20080722152209.C05951AB969@mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: >> You'd best spend some time practicing your Mad Lua Skillz, 'cause Cockpit >> Interface Master is going beta soon. Head over to http://www.lua.org and >> start yer learnin'. :) > > g > > Ok so I went to the site. > > Do you have some sample code for the Analog Output? > Do you mean code for the AC360 gauges? Not yet - I had forgotten to order interconnect hardware when I first got them and I place the part order yesterday. It'll go something like this though: Airspeed = CIM:GetNumericValue("AIRSPEED") NeedlePos = CIM:Scale(InMin, InMax, OutMin, OutMax, Airspeed) CIM:SetGauge("AIRSPEED", NeedlePos) GetNumericValue() would look up the value that matches the name "AIRSPEED" in whatever sim you're using and return it. With MSFS, many of the parameters need to be "adjusted" to get human readable values out of them. For instance, the IAS data requires that you divide the result by 128 to get IAS in knots. To do this, you'd write: Airspeed = CIM:GetNumericValue("AIRSPEED") / 128 To get a value you could send to a gauge. For MSFS and X-Plane users, I'm including a helper tool that will show you what is available to you when you're configuring what data you want to work with. (Something similar will be available for IL2 & LOMAC users.) Here's what the MSFS version looks like: http://www.simpits.org/~geneb/msfs_offset_list_screen.jpg This is basically used as a quick reference for the user. If you want to know more about a particular offset than what I show, you'll need to look at the FSUIPC documentation. Often times more detail can be found there. Double-clicking on a parameter you want will fill in most of the fields needed to add that parameter to CIM. The Scale() routine will provide a good needle position based on the parameters passed. InMin & InMax would be the input range - for instance 0 to 500Kts. OutMin & OutMax would be the min & max values that the gauge you're working with could handle. Note that anything you see that is prefixed with "CIM" means that it's part of the Lua extentions that CIM provides and not part of Lua itself. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From phoenixcomm at gmail.com Tue Jul 22 10:39:23 2008 From: phoenixcomm at gmail.com (Cris Harrison) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:39:23 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Hello, hello, hello In-Reply-To: <20080721205329.C684B22E4C8@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> References: <20080721205329.C684B22E4C8@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: NODDING HEAD On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 3:53 PM, David C. Allen wrote: > Hello, hello, hello > Is there anybody in there? > Just nod if you can hear me. > Is there anyone at home? > > David > www.737FlightSim.com > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080722/3ef3aa99/attachment.html From allendc at qwest.net Tue Jul 22 14:03:03 2008 From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:03:03 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] CIM programming to FSUIPC Offsets? In-Reply-To: References: <20080721205329.C684B22E4C8@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> <20080721214835.7DEF86278DE@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net> <20080722152209.C05951AB969@mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: <20080722210312.4ED5622DE79@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> >Do you mean code for the AC360 gauges? Not yet - I had forgotten to order >interconnect hardware when I first got them and I place the part order >yesterday. I think Leo drives his gauges with a 0 to 5vdc signal, and his gauge converts that voltage to angular position. So I am using just the 0 to 5vdc analog out >It'll go something like this though: > >Airspeed = CIM:GetNumericValue("AIRSPEED") >NeedlePos = CIM:Scale(InMin, InMax, OutMin, OutMax, Airspeed) >CIM:SetGauge("AIRSPEED", NeedlePos) > >GetNumericValue() would look up the value that matches the name "AIRSPEED" >in whatever sim you're using and return it. How do you define the name "AIRSPEED" to FSUIPC offsets 02BC "02BC 4 IAS: Indicated Air Speed, as knots * 128 " David From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Jul 22 15:02:30 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:02:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] CIM programming to FSUIPC Offsets? In-Reply-To: <20080722210312.4ED5622DE79@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> References: <20080721205329.C684B22E4C8@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> <20080721214835.7DEF86278DE@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net> <20080722152209.C05951AB969@mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net> <20080722210312.4ED5622DE79@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: >> Do you mean code for the AC360 gauges? Not yet - I had forgotten to order >> interconnect hardware when I first got them and I place the part order >> yesterday. > > I think Leo drives his gauges with a 0 to 5vdc signal, and his gauge > converts that voltage to angular position. > > So I am using just the 0 to 5vdc analog out > Right, but you send it a value from 0 to 255 to specify the needle position because you're talking to an 8 bit DAC on the other end. (Leo, if you're monitoring - help me out if I'm wrong on the 0..255 value) So your scale command would be some thing like this NeedlePos = CIM:Scale(0,500,0,255,Airspeed) 0..500 is the range the ASI can show, 0..255 is the range you can feed the DAC. The result should give you a pretty good needle position based on the airspeed value you fit into it. >> It'll go something like this though: >> >> Airspeed = CIM:GetNumericValue("AIRSPEED") >> NeedlePos = CIM:Scale(InMin, InMax, OutMin, OutMax, Airspeed) >> CIM:SetGauge("AIRSPEED", NeedlePos) >> >> GetNumericValue() would look up the value that matches the name "AIRSPEED" >> in whatever sim you're using and return it. > > How do you define the name "AIRSPEED" to FSUIPC offsets 02BC > > "02BC 4 IAS: Indicated Air Speed, as knots * 128 " > I'll give you an example from the configuration file. (I can't run MSFS right now to show you an example via screenshot) This is what the configuration file shows for the first entry in the MSFS section. The Parameter Key field is the name you call it and what you'll use to reference that value when you want to read or write it. Offset is the decimal representation of the offset you found in the documentation. Size is the size in bytes of the field you're reading from. VarType is the variable type the simulator is sending you. In this case, the 2 represents BCD format. This means that the value coming out of the simulator for the COM1 frequency is a Hexadecimal BCD value. Direction = 2 means that this variable can be both read from and written to. Some are read only, and I don't think I've ever found a write only parameter in MSFS. Here is one of the examples I'm going include. The SetValue() calls send "debug" data to CIM so you can see what it did AFTER the script finishes. I'm looking adding a "remote" debugger that you can use to single step the code via a network connection while the script is running. This particular example is a "run many" script. This means that this script is executed at an interval you specify. For my testing, I've been using 10ms. g. --------------------------------------------------------- -- Cockpit Interface Master - Copyright 2008, Gene Buckle -- Controls COM1 frequency selection --------------------------------------------------------- -- Get the currently selected frequency from the simulator. Com1Freq = CIM:GetStringValue("COM1_FRQ") if Com1Freq == "" then CIM:SetValue(0, "Com1Freq was blank for this cycle.") return end -- Choose the correct frequency "step" based upon what the current -- simulator needs. if SimType == "FlightGear" then kHz_offset = .0250 Mhz_Offset = 1.0 elseif SimType == "MSFS" then kHz_offset = 2 Mhz_Offset = 100 else CIM:SetValue(0, "Invalid SimType - >" .. SimType .. "<-") return end -- The next four if..then blocks control how the step up/step down -- buttons work for gross (Mhz) and fine (kHz) tuning of the COM -- radio. -- The routines are written to eliminate "keybounce" by ensuring that -- the user has released the button before the script terminates. -- The "CIM:SetValue(0,...)" calls are an easy way to see how the code is operating -- if there is a problem with the simulator. if CIM:GetInput("KHZ_DOWN") == true then repeat -- do nothing until CIM:GetInput("KHZ_DOWN") == false Com1Freq = Com1Freq - kHz_offset CIM:SetStringValue("COM1_FRQ", Com1Freq) CIM:SetValue(0, "KHZ_DOWN ->" .. Com1Freq .. "<-") return end if CIM:GetInput("KHZ_UP") == true then repeat -- do nothing until CIM:GetInput("KHZ_UP") == false Com1Freq = Com1Freq + kHz_offset CIM:SetStringValue("COM1_FRQ", Com1Freq) CIM:SetValue(0, "KHZ_UP - " .. Com1Freq) return end if CIM:GetInput("MHZ_UP") == true then repeat -- do nothing until CIM:GetInput("MHZ_UP") == false Com1Freq = Com1Freq + Mhz_Offset CIM:SetStringValue("COM1_FRQ", Com1Freq) CIM:SetValue(0, "MHZ_UP - " .. Com1Freq) return end if CIM:GetInput("MHZ_DOWN") == true then repeat -- do nothing until CIM:GetInput("MHZ_DOWN") == false Com1Freq = Com1Freq - Mhz_Offset CIM:SetStringValue("COM1_FRQ", Com1Freq) CIM:SetValue(0, "MHZ_DOWN - " .. Com1Freq) return end -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From allendc at qwest.net Tue Jul 22 15:55:34 2008 From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:55:34 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] CIM programming to FSUIPC Offsets? In-Reply-To: References: <20080721205329.C684B22E4C8@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> <20080721214835.7DEF86278DE@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net> <20080722152209.C05951AB969@mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net> <20080722210312.4ED5622DE79@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: <20080722225633.B3A75621C95@mpls-qmqp-03.inet.qwest.net> At 03:02 PM 7/22/2008 -0700, you wrote: > >> Do you mean code for the AC360 gauges? Not yet - I had forgotten to order > >> interconnect hardware when I first got them and I place the part order > >> yesterday. > > > > I think Leo drives his gauges with a 0 to 5vdc signal, and his gauge > > converts that voltage to angular position. > > > > So I am using just the 0 to 5vdc analog out > > >Right, but you send it a value from 0 to 255 to specify the needle >position because you're talking to an 8 bit DAC on the other end. (Leo, if >you're monitoring - help me out if I'm wrong on the 0..255 value) Yep that's what I was thinking, in your 8 bit example 255 = 5vdc out and 0 = 0vdc out I think they are 10 bit >So your scale command would be some thing like this > >NeedlePos = CIM:Scale(0,500,0,255,Airspeed) How are non-linear scales going to be handled? >0..500 is the range the ASI can show, 0..255 is the range you can feed the >DAC. The result should give you a pretty good needle position based on >the airspeed value you fit into it. > > >> It'll go something like this though: > >> > >> Airspeed = CIM:GetNumericValue("AIRSPEED") > >> NeedlePos = CIM:Scale(InMin, InMax, OutMin, OutMax, Airspeed) > >> CIM:SetGauge("AIRSPEED", NeedlePos) > >> > >> GetNumericValue() would look up the value that matches the name "AIRSPEED" > >> in whatever sim you're using and return it. > > > > How do you define the name "AIRSPEED" to FSUIPC offsets 02BC > > > > "02BC 4 IAS: Indicated Air Speed, as knots * 128 " > > > >I'll give you an example from the configuration file. (I can't run MSFS >right now to show you an example via screenshot) > > How do we find out the VarType for the airspeed FSUIPC data? So is a read only a Direction="1" David From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Jul 22 20:01:41 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:01:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] CIM programming to FSUIPC Offsets? In-Reply-To: <20080722225633.B3A75621C95@mpls-qmqp-03.inet.qwest.net> References: <20080721205329.C684B22E4C8@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> <20080721214835.7DEF86278DE@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net> <20080722152209.C05951AB969@mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net> <20080722210312.4ED5622DE79@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> <20080722225633.B3A75621C95@mpls-qmqp-03.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: > Yep that's what I was thinking, in your 8 bit example 255 = 5vdc out > and 0 = 0vdc out > > I think they are 10 bit > I don't know. I was going from a quick glance at the BI API for analog outputs. >> So your scale command would be some thing like this >> >> NeedlePos = CIM:Scale(0,500,0,255,Airspeed) > > How are non-linear scales going to be handled? > Well there are two ways to do it, you give me a formula that I can use to create a custom CIM based function for you to call, or you can implement the formula yourself in Lua. > > > How do we find out the VarType for the airspeed FSUIPC data? > It's part of the documentation in FSUIPC and there's also a column that shows it. If you look at the screen shot I posted, look at the "Type" column. > So is a read only a Direction="1" > Actually that's the code for write. You won't ever need to deal with that though - in fact hand editing the configuration file will only get you into trouble unless you know exactly what you're changing and what effect it could have. The configuration files (there are two - one for the simulator software configuration and one for the hardware configuration) are created and maintained by CIM so you don't have to worry about remembering storage codes, etc. When I get a chance this week I'm going to post a Camtasia movie of the application in use so you guys can see what it does. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From allendc at qwest.net Tue Jul 22 20:55:58 2008 From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:55:58 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] CIM programming to FSUIPC Offsets? In-Reply-To: References: <20080721205329.C684B22E4C8@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> <20080721214835.7DEF86278DE@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net> <20080722152209.C05951AB969@mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net> <20080722210312.4ED5622DE79@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> <20080722225633.B3A75621C95@mpls-qmqp-03.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: <20080723035603.1CECF62790B@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080722/bd8748b7/attachment.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Jul 22 21:10:56 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:10:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] CIM programming to FSUIPC Offsets? In-Reply-To: <20080723035603.1CECF62790B@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net> References: <20080721205329.C684B22E4C8@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> <20080721214835.7DEF86278DE@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net> <20080722152209.C05951AB969@mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net> <20080722210312.4ED5622DE79@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> <20080722225633.B3A75621C95@mpls-qmqp-03.inet.qwest.net> <20080723035603.1CECF62790B@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: > I don't know. I was going from a quick glance at the BI API > for analog > outputs. > > > So it looks like 12 bit from 3/24/07 Leo wrote: > > I will have within 2 weeks a new card for Plasma-Lite which will support > 8 analog outputs at 12-bit resolution so take you're pick. > Ahh, ok. > can implement > the formula yourself in Lua. > > > I like the first part of your answer > Well gimme the formula then. :) > Ok, how will custom offsets in Project Magenta be entered? > > For PM systems they occupy FSUIPC offsets 5600 to 57FF > If you know the pertinant(sp) information on the offset, you can just enter it on the configuration screen for the simulator. The screenshot I showed you is a helper reference. You can enter the offset data directly or just double-click the one you want in the chooser grid which will populate most of the fields for you. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From allendc at qwest.net Tue Jul 22 21:17:22 2008 From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:17:22 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] CIM programming to FSUIPC Offsets? In-Reply-To: References: <20080721205329.C684B22E4C8@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> <20080721214835.7DEF86278DE@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net> <20080722152209.C05951AB969@mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net> <20080722210312.4ED5622DE79@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> <20080722225633.B3A75621C95@mpls-qmqp-03.inet.qwest.net> <20080723035603.1CECF62790B@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: <20080723041955.4FA9453BCCD@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net> At 09:10 PM 7/22/2008 -0700, you wrote: > > I don't know. I was going from a quick glance at the BI API > > for analog > > outputs. > > > > > > So it looks like 12 bit from 3/24/07 Leo wrote: > > > > I will have within 2 weeks a new card for Plasma-Lite which will support > > 8 analog outputs at 12-bit resolution so take you're pick. > > >Ahh, ok. > > > can implement > > the formula yourself in Lua. > > > > > > I like the first part of your answer > > >Well gimme the formula then. :) > > > Ok, how will custom offsets in Project Magenta be entered? > > > > For PM systems they occupy FSUIPC offsets 5600 to 57FF > > >If you know the pertinant(sp) information on the offset, you can just >enter it on the configuration screen for the simulator. The screenshot I >showed you is a helper reference. You can enter the offset data directly >or just double-click the one you want in the chooser grid which will >populate most of the fields for you. PMsystems uses a text file, is used it is called sysvar.txt Here is a sample //XXXX is display only // December 3rd 2005 // offset, length, name, [factor (multiplier)] ////////////////////////////////////////////// 5600 .0 APUMasterFault 5600 .1 APUStartAvail 5600 .2 APUFlap 5600 .3 APUMaint 5600 .3 APUStarter 5600 .4 APULowPress 5600 .5 APUPumpFault 5600 .6 APUFault 5600 .7 APUGenBus 5601 .0 APUMasterOn 5602 2 APUN .1 5604 2 APUEGT .1 5606 2 APUGenHz 5608 2 APUGenVolt .1 560A 2 APUBleedPSI >g. > >-- >Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 >http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. >_______________________________________________ >Simpits-tech mailing list >Simpits-tech at simpits.org >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the >above page. Thanks! > > >__________ NOD32 3289 (20080722) Information __________ > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >http://www.eset.com From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Jul 22 21:48:58 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:48:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] CIM programming to FSUIPC Offsets? In-Reply-To: <20080723041955.4FA9453BCCD@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net> References: <20080721205329.C684B22E4C8@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> <20080721214835.7DEF86278DE@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net> <20080722152209.C05951AB969@mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net> <20080722210312.4ED5622DE79@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> <20080722225633.B3A75621C95@mpls-qmqp-03.inet.qwest.net> <20080723035603.1CECF62790B@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net> <20080723041955.4FA9453BCCD@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: > > PMsystems uses a text file, is used it is called sysvar.txt > > Here is a sample > > //XXXX is display only > // December 3rd 2005 > // offset, length, name, [factor (multiplier)] > ////////////////////////////////////////////// > > > 5600 .0 APUMasterFault > 5600 .1 APUStartAvail > 5600 .2 APUFlap > 5600 .3 APUMaint > 5600 .3 APUStarter > 5600 .4 APULowPress > 5600 .5 APUPumpFault > 5600 .6 APUFault > 5600 .7 APUGenBus > These are bitfields. It basically means that you're packing 8 data fields into a single byte. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Wed Jul 23 14:23:41 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:23:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] instrument faces... Message-ID: I recall there being out on the net somewhere, a tutorial on drawing instrument faces in CorelDraw. Does anyone here have that link or a similar tutorial? tnx! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Wed Jul 23 21:21:43 2008 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:21:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] The Air Force One Project, new webpage Message-ID: <167772.24854.qm@web52001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> here are some webpages showing our current project, enjoy! Next will be some video clips. http://www.geocities.com/cap17.geo/AF1.html ? Justin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20080723/546c426a/attachment.html From sean.g at paradise.net.nz Wed Jul 23 23:15:47 2008 From: sean.g at paradise.net.nz (Sean Galbraith) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:15:47 +1200 Subject: [simpits-tech] instrument faces... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0K4H00295YN3YQ00@smtp4.clear.net.nz> I think I saw that once apon a time... Don't have a clue where though! Drawing gauges in CD is easy-peasy though. Doing the incremental marks is simple once you figure out about moving the rotation origin of objects :) SeanG At 09:23 a.m. 24/07/2008, you wrote: >I recall there being out on the net somewhere, a tutorial on drawing >instrument faces in CorelDraw. Does anyone here have that link or a >similar tutorial? > >tnx! > >g. > > >-- >Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 >http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. >_______________________________________________ >Simpits-tech mailing list >Simpits-tech at simpits.org >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the >above page. Thanks! From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Jul 24 07:16:20 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:16:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] instrument faces... In-Reply-To: <0K4H00295YN3YQ00@smtp4.clear.net.nz> References: <0K4H00295YN3YQ00@smtp4.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: > I think I saw that once apon a time... Don't have a clue where though! > > Drawing gauges in CD is easy-peasy though. Doing the incremental > marks is simple once you figure out about moving the rotation origin > of objects :) > Well, start talking. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Thu Jul 24 07:59:26 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:59:26 +0100 (BST) Subject: [simpits-tech] instrument faces... In-Reply-To: <0K4H00295YN3YQ00@smtp4.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: On Thu, 24 Jul 2008, Sean Galbraith wrote: > I think I saw that once apon a time... Don't have a clue where though! > > Drawing gauges in CD is easy-peasy though. Doing the incremental > marks is simple once you figure out about moving the rotation origin > of objects :) > I've drawn quite a few instruments in paintshop pro and if you work on a LARGE image, when you resize to the working size, the anti-aliasing makes it look pretty convincing. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Jul 24 10:02:53 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:02:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] instrument faces... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >> I think I saw that once apon a time... Don't have a clue where though! >> >> Drawing gauges in CD is easy-peasy though. Doing the incremental >> marks is simple once you figure out about moving the rotation origin >> of objects :) >> > > I've drawn quite a few instruments in paintshop pro and if you work on a > LARGE image, when you resize to the working size, the anti-aliasing makes > it look pretty convincing. I need it to be a vector drawing in Corel so I can laser engrave it... g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From dutchdak at fscockpit.com Thu Jul 24 13:38:12 2008 From: dutchdak at fscockpit.com (dutchdak at fscockpit.com) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:38:12 +0200 Subject: [simpits-tech] instrument faces... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003d01c8edcd$30eaec40$92c0c4c0$@com> There is a very detailed and instructive tutorial about making gauge faces using Paint Shop Pro by Dai Griffiths (Dragonflight Design) published in 2001. The tutorial (gaupaint.zip) is downloadable from FlightSim.com. Using this as a start for an other drawing program is not a big issue. Herman www.fscockpit.com >Message: 6 >Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:23:41 -0700 (PDT) >From: Gene Buckle >Subject: [simpits-tech] instrument faces... >To: simpits-tech at simpits.org >Message-ID: >Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > >I recall there being out on the net somewhere, a tutorial on drawing >instrument faces in CorelDraw. Does anyone here have that link or a >similar tutorial? > >tnx! > >g. From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Jul 24 14:03:31 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:03:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] instrument faces... In-Reply-To: <003d01c8edcd$30eaec40$92c0c4c0$@com> References: <003d01c8edcd$30eaec40$92c0c4c0$@com> Message-ID: > There is a very detailed and instructive tutorial about making gauge faces > using Paint Shop Pro by Dai Griffiths (Dragonflight Design) published in > 2001. The tutorial (gaupaint.zip) is downloadable from FlightSim.com. > > Using this as a start for an other drawing program is not a big issue. > Thanks Herman. I've seen that before, but I was hoping for a Corel-centric example. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Jul 24 15:13:05 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:13:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Lua example for David... Message-ID: Ok, given this information: 5600 .0 APUMasterFault 5600 .1 APUStartAvail 5600 .2 APUFlap 5600 .3 APUMaint 5600 .3 APUStarter // CRJ ???? 5600 .4 APULowPress 5600 .5 APUPumpFault 5600 .6 APUFault 5600 .7 APUGenBus Offset at 5600 hex is a single byte that is broken into 8 1 bit fields. Interesting note - they're showing Bit # 3 as two different things...Bug? I'll only use APUMaint for this example... Here's how you work those in Lua: require "bit"; -- this is the bit field library you'll use. -- you can download it from --http://luaforge.net/projects/bit/ -- Define our error constants APUMasterFault = 1; APUStartAvail = 2; APUFlap = 3; APUMaint = 4; APULowPress = 5; APUPumpFault = 6; APUFault = 7; APUGenBus = 8; APUError = bit.tobits(CIM:GetNumericValue("APU_ERROR")); -- APU_ERROR points to offset 5600 if APUError[APUMasterFault] == 1 then if CIM:GetOutputState("APU_MASTER_FAULT_LAMP") != 1 then CIM:SetOutputChannel("APU_MASTER_FAULT_LAMP", 1) end else if CIM:GetOutputState("APU_MASTER_FAULT_LAMP") == 1 then CIM:SetOutputChannel("APU_MASTER_FAULT_LAMP", 0) end end Now this example shows just a single test - but what it does is this: If the APUMasterFault bit is set, it checks to see if the corresponding lamp is already lit. If it is, it does nothing, otherwise it lights it. If the APUMasterFault bit is NOT set, it makes sure the lamp is off and turns it off if it isn't. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From allendc at qwest.net Thu Jul 24 15:33:35 2008 From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:33:35 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Lua example for David... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20080724223345.0C20C1AA253@mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net> At 03:13 PM 7/24/2008 -0700, you wrote: >Ok, given this information: > > >5600 .0 APUMasterFault >5600 .1 APUStartAvail >5600 .2 APUFlap >5600 .3 APUMaint >5600 .3 APUStarter // CRJ ???? >5600 .4 APULowPress >5600 .5 APUPumpFault >5600 .6 APUFault >5600 .7 APUGenBus > >Offset at 5600 hex is a single byte that is broken into 8 1 bit fields. > >Interesting note - they're showing Bit # 3 as two different things...Bug? >I'll only use APUMaint for this example... > >Here's how you work those in Lua: > >require "bit"; -- this is the bit field library you'll use. > -- you can download it from > --http://luaforge.net/projects/bit/ > >-- Define our error constants >APUMasterFault = 1; >APUStartAvail = 2; >APUFlap = 3; >APUMaint = 4; >APULowPress = 5; >APUPumpFault = 6; >APUFault = 7; >APUGenBus = 8; So the above bits are assigned to the "APU_ERROR" single byte @ 5600 ? So where do you define "APU_ERROR" = Offset at 5600 hex I am assuming "--" is used to comment a line >APUError = bit.tobits(CIM:GetNumericValue("APU_ERROR")); >-- APU_ERROR points to offset 5600 >if APUError[APUMasterFault] == 1 then > if CIM:GetOutputState("APU_MASTER_FAULT_LAMP") != 1 then != is that "Not equal to"? == "Equal to" > CIM:SetOutputChannel("APU_MASTER_FAULT_LAMP", 1) Set APU_MASTER_FAULT_LAMP to logic 1 > end >else > if CIM:GetOutputState("APU_MASTER_FAULT_LAMP") == 1 then > CIM:SetOutputChannel("APU_MASTER_FAULT_LAMP", 0) Set APU_MASTER_FAULT_LAMP to logic 0 > end >end From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Jul 24 15:44:06 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Lua example for David... In-Reply-To: <20080724223345.0C20C1AA253@mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net> References: <20080724223345.0C20C1AA253@mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: >> -- Define our error constants >> APUMasterFault = 1; >> APUStartAvail = 2; >> APUFlap = 3; >> APUMaint = 4; >> APULowPress = 5; >> APUPumpFault = 6; >> APUFault = 7; >> APUGenBus = 8; > > So the above bits are assigned to the "APU_ERROR" single byte @ 5600 ? > Yes. > So where do you define "APU_ERROR" = Offset at 5600 hex Within the function editor in CIM. You'll see that when I get a chance at Camtasia this week. I've got 200 video pod kits to produce and that makes other things take a back seat. > > I am assuming "--" is used to comment a line > Yes >> APUError = bit.tobits(CIM:GetNumericValue("APU_ERROR")); >> -- APU_ERROR points to offset 5600 >> if APUError[APUMasterFault] == 1 then >> if CIM:GetOutputState("APU_MASTER_FAULT_LAMP") != 1 then > > != is that "Not equal to"? > > == "Equal to" > Yes. Note that "=" is ASSIGNMENT and not an equality test. >> CIM:SetOutputChannel("APU_MASTER_FAULT_LAMP", 1) > > Set APU_MASTER_FAULT_LAMP to logic 1 > Yes. >> end >> else >> if CIM:GetOutputState("APU_MASTER_FAULT_LAMP") == 1 then >> CIM:SetOutputChannel("APU_MASTER_FAULT_LAMP", 0) > > Set APU_MASTER_FAULT_LAMP to logic 0 > Yes. There will be a separate analog output function called SetAnalogOutput() or something similar. I'm waiting for hardware to test with right now. (Go USPS! *laughs* g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From cstemberg at mac.com Sat Jul 26 03:14:09 2008 From: cstemberg at mac.com (Clyde Stemberg) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 06:14:09 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] Setting up a second CPU Message-ID: Hi everyone, I was wondering if anyone knows how to set up a second CPU from my new dreamflyer motion sim. What I'm trying to do is basically set up a instructor table. I don't know if I have to use another router or anything like that. But I would like it to go from my main CPU to a laptop to record everything and backup files. I am using Mircosoft flight simulator X Deluxe. Thanks, Clyde From geneb at deltasoft.com Sat Jul 26 09:33:07 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 09:33:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Setting up a second CPU In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > I was wondering if anyone knows how to set up a second CPU from my > new dreamflyer motion sim. What I'm trying to do is basically set up > a instructor table. I don't know if I have to use another router or > anything like that. But I would like it to go from my main CPU to a > laptop to record everything and backup files. I am using Mircosoft > flight simulator X Deluxe. If both computers have Ethernet cards, you can get a nice and inexpensive 100BaseT Hub (Netgear is a good brand) and just plug both machines into that. You'll need to know how to set up networking on your machines of course. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From cstemberg at mac.com Sat Jul 26 10:29:38 2008 From: cstemberg at mac.com (Clyde Stemberg) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:29:38 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] Setting up a second CPU In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you I know how to do that. Clyde Sent from my iPhone On Jul 26, 2008, at 12:33 PM, Gene Buckle wrote: >> I was wondering if anyone knows how to set up a second CPU from my >> new dreamflyer motion sim. What I'm trying to do is basically set up >> a instructor table. I don't know if I have to use another router or >> anything like that. But I would like it to go from my main CPU to a >> laptop to record everything and backup files. I am using Mircosoft >> flight simulator X Deluxe. > > If both computers have Ethernet cards, you can get a nice and > inexpensive > 100BaseT Hub (Netgear is a good brand) and just plug both machines > into > that. You'll need to know how to set up networking on your machines > of > course. > > g. > > > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the > above page. Thanks! From chevello at rcn.com Wed Jul 30 16:39:42 2008 From: chevello at rcn.com (KD) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:39:42 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] Simpits-tech Digest, Vol 59, Issue 14 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4890FBBE.4050103@rcn.com> Gene, found something for you today ;) http://web.govliquidation.com/auction/endecaSearch?words=AIRCRAFT+PARTS&Ntt=AIRCRAFT+PARTS&N=0&cmd=keyword&Nty=1&Ntx=mode+matchall&No=0&Ns=Lot+Number%7C0&Ntk=P%5FLot%5FTitle I hope that link wraps... I do my gauge faces in AutoCad or MDT. THen have the guys at Fastsigns print them out on vinyl. Just drop a picture of the gauge you want into a window and trace over it. Don't use polylines or donuts, outline and fill. Works pretty well on the sims I do. For laser engraving, we print to PDF and they "print" the drawings right onto the lightplates. Guy in Florida does it JAG Collective. Less than $100 per panel. K From geneb at deltasoft.com Wed Jul 30 18:09:36 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:09:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Simpits-tech Digest, Vol 59, Issue 14 In-Reply-To: <4890FBBE.4050103@rcn.com> References: <4890FBBE.4050103@rcn.com> Message-ID: > found something for you today ;) > > http://web.govliquidation.com/auction/endecaSearch?words=AIRCRAFT+PARTS&Ntt=AIRCRAFT+PARTS&N=0&cmd=keyword&Nty=1&Ntx=mode+matchall&No=0&Ns=Lot+Number%7C0&Ntk=P%5FLot%5FTitle > You got the $50k deposit to even TRY bidding? :) I'll cross my fingers and hope some of it shows on eBay. I sure would like that cockpit section from the '070 bird though. *sigh* g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.