From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Mon Dec 1 06:38:49 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:38:49 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] rear projection.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sat, 29 Nov 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > Roy, one thing about using the old TV screen for rear projection that you > didn't think about (you may have..) is that the screen should literally be > in your face. > > The car sim that Rob & I built a few years ago used the old screen from a > Toshiba rear projection TV. The screen was placed about 18" away from > your face so it takes up most of your forward vision. > > You also get much higher resolutions using a "standard" projector than you > will using the built in VGA to PAL converter (or it's digital equivalent). All interesting stuff - thanks gene. However, this sucker is waaaaaaaaaay too big to live at my address ! -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Mon Dec 1 06:44:37 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:44:37 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Saturday's WIP pics... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 30 Nov 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > Here's a couple of pics from the work done on Saturday. Many thanks to > Rob for the repeated sanity checks on weird angle cuts. :) > > http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/monitor_deck_and_windscreen1.png > http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/monitor_deck_and_windscreen2.png > > The windscreen frame is made from 1/2" MDF and the monitor deck is framed > with 1/2" OSB and skinned with 1/8" tempered hardboard. The top is made > from 1/4" MDF. Looking good gene. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Dec 1 06:41:56 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 06:41:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Saturday's WIP pics... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Dec 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > On Sun, 30 Nov 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >> Here's a couple of pics from the work done on Saturday. Many thanks to >> Rob for the repeated sanity checks on weird angle cuts. :) >> >> http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/monitor_deck_and_windscreen1.png >> http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/monitor_deck_and_windscreen2.png >> >> The windscreen frame is made from 1/2" MDF and the monitor deck is framed >> with 1/2" OSB and skinned with 1/8" tempered hardboard. The top is made >> from 1/4" MDF. > > > Looking good gene. Thanks Roy. BTW, the flat area on the forward windscreen surface is where the projection screen goes. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Mon Dec 1 07:45:44 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 15:45:44 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Saturday's WIP pics... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > > Looking good gene. > > Thanks Roy. BTW, the flat area on the forward windscreen surface is where > the projection screen goes. :) I'm still dumping mine. You can have it if you want - but you arrange shipping! -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Dec 1 06:55:37 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 06:55:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Saturday's WIP pics... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Dec 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > On Mon, 1 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >>> Looking good gene. >> >> Thanks Roy. BTW, the flat area on the forward windscreen surface is where >> the projection screen goes. :) > > > I'm still dumping mine. > > You can have it if you want - but you arrange shipping! > No thanks, I've got two of them already. :) At some point I'm also going to experiment using some .062 frosted acrylic to see how well that handles rear-projection. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Mon Dec 1 07:58:39 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 15:58:39 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Saturday's WIP pics... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > At some point I'm also going to experiment using some .062 frosted acrylic > to see how well that handles rear-projection. > You obviously have far too much free time on your hands. lucky b*****d. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Mon Dec 1 07:52:09 2008 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 07:52:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Saturday's WIP pics... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <822900.63315.qm@web111516.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> So when will you finish the F-15??? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081201/a08b4102/attachment.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Dec 1 08:29:42 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 08:29:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Saturday's WIP pics... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Dec 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > On Mon, 1 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >> At some point I'm also going to experiment using some .062 frosted acrylic >> to see how well that handles rear-projection. >> > > You obviously have far too much free time on your hands. > > lucky b*****d. Not really. I just do a lot of prep work to get the most out of Shop Saturday. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Dec 1 08:32:28 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 08:32:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Saturday's WIP pics... In-Reply-To: <822900.63315.qm@web111516.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <822900.63315.qm@web111516.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Dec 2008, Justin Messenger wrote: > So when will you finish the F-15??? > When it's done of course. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Mon Dec 1 09:39:52 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:39:52 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Saturday's WIP pics... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > > You obviously have far too much free time on your hands. > > lucky b*****d. > > Not really. I just do a lot of prep work to get the most out of Shop > Saturday. :) I'd send you some of my WIP pics but there isn't room in my garage for me, the pit AND a camera ;-/ -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil Mon Dec 1 08:42:29 2008 From: bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil (Brian Sikkema) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:42:29 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Saturday's WIP pics... Message-ID: <5481db14b78248f0934602613da73404.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> >I'd send you some of my WIP pics but there isn't room in my garage for me, >the pit AND a camera ;-/ Here are my WIP pics: Dammit. Oh well, from the sounds of things I'm gonna have a bunch of free time in Okinawa. Good time to get back into the software side of things. I've learned a LOT in the past few months that will be very helpful. Brian From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Mon Dec 1 09:59:28 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:59:28 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Saturday's WIP pics... In-Reply-To: <5481db14b78248f0934602613da73404.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Dec 2008, Brian Sikkema wrote: > >I'd send you some of my WIP pics but there isn't > room in my garage for me, > >the pit AND a camera ;-/ > > Here are my WIP pics: > > Dammit. > > Oh well, from the sounds of things I'm gonna have a > bunch of free time in Okinawa. Good time to get back > into the software side of things. I've learned a LOT > in the past few months that will be very helpful. That's the beauty of this flight sim / pit building thing. There's always something new to learn or apply. I'm on simpit #4 at the moment with plans for #5 and #6 already underway and I keep learning new tricks and there's always some new hardware/software to play with too. And even better - I don't get to pay for it all :-) -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Dec 1 09:02:32 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 09:02:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] [x-plane-tech] Re: Saturday's WIP pics... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Dec 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > On Mon, 1 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >>> You obviously have far too much free time on your hands. >>> lucky b*****d. >> >> Not really. I just do a lot of prep work to get the most out of Shop >> Saturday. :) > > > I'd send you some of my WIP pics but there isn't room in my garage for me, > the pit AND a camera ;-/ Hehehehe. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Mon Dec 1 10:13:44 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 18:13:44 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] [x-plane-tech] Re: Saturday's WIP pics... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > > I'd send you some of my WIP pics but there isn't room in my garage for me, > > the pit AND a camera ;-/ > > Hehehehe. Next time I build a 2-seater sim it'll be a tandem configuration. The current project is only 12" narrower than my garage which makes life... cosy. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. 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URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081201/975b689c/attachment-0001.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Dec 1 10:49:35 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 10:49:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Personal invitation from Cris Harrison In-Reply-To: <20081201133419.996383594@unyk.com> References: <20081201133419.996383594@unyk.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Dec 2008, Cris Harrison wrote: > If you are not able to click these links, click the following: ??Show > content?? and try again. > E-mail sent 12/1/2008 1:29:38 PM, by Cris Harrison: > Personal invitation from Cris Harrison [logo_131x76.gif] > [84d73f6a-b5f5-4e68-aab7-2f6320baf7ec_686158858479686D.jpg] > Hello, > Hi! My name is Chris Harrison and I've got this neat virus that I think you all should have too! *snarls* g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From rd at ns.sympatico.ca Mon Dec 1 10:48:05 2008 From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:48:05 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] Personal invitation from Cris Harrison References: <20081201133419.996383594@unyk.com> Message-ID: <00e501c953e5$59548fa0$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> Thanks Gene. Took the words right out of my mouth. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Buckle" To: ; "Simulator Cockpit tech list" Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 2:49 PM Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Personal invitation from Cris Harrison > On Mon, 1 Dec 2008, Cris Harrison wrote: > >> If you are not able to click these links, click the following: ? Show >> content ? and try again. >> E-mail sent 12/1/2008 1:29:38 PM, by Cris Harrison: >> Personal invitation from Cris Harrison [logo_131x76.gif] >> [84d73f6a-b5f5-4e68-aab7-2f6320baf7ec_686158858479686D.jpg] >> Hello, >> > > Hi! My name is Chris Harrison and I've got this neat virus that I think > you all should have too! > > > *snarls* > > g. > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Dec 1 21:00:31 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 21:00:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Tiny error, big result... Message-ID: The windscreen components that I cut on Saturday had a tiny error in what I call the "root" angle. This is the angle that the windscren frame "tilts" in. This angle is based on the 2" wide "canopy bow" frame at the aft of the assembly. The error didn't show up until the large flat part was added to the assembly when I was gluing it up. It turns out that the angle was off by .46 of a degree. This translated into a sizing difference of over .18", which when you're trying to get things to fit together tightly is a huge error. I was able to correct the error in the front windscreen face by hand, but two parts that were based on that shape have to be re-cut as well as the pine support blocking. When you're designing a cockpit that has any angles involved, you need to be very, very careful in how you lay it out. This one kept me up at night until I figured out what the root cause of the problem was. Fortunately, the error wasn't so bad that it required cutting new parts out of MDF. That crap is expensive, even at 1/2" sheet thickness. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From sean.g at paradise.net.nz Mon Dec 1 21:52:24 2008 From: sean.g at paradise.net.nz (Sean Galbraith) Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:52:24 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] Tiny error, big result... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0KB8004N7IZBK730@smtp4.clear.net.nz> >When you're designing a cockpit that has any angles involved, you need to >be very, very careful in how you lay it out. This one kept me up at night >until I figured out what the root cause of the problem was. Fortunately, >the error wasn't so bad that it required cutting new parts out of MDF. >That crap is expensive, even at 1/2" sheet thickness. Could have been worse.... at least it didn't take a complete rebuild of some major components! You say that MDF is expensive.... how much are we talking, since over here MDF is cheap.. everyone uses it for everything. So cheap that we use 1/2" or 3/4" MDF ripped down to 2" strips instead of buying pine.... 2" x 1" for framing stuff... SeanG From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Tue Dec 2 05:13:06 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:13:06 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Tiny error, big result... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > The windscreen components that I cut on Saturday had a tiny error in what > I call the "root" angle. This is the angle that the windscren frame > "tilts" in. This angle is based on the 2" wide "canopy bow" frame at the > aft of the assembly. > > The error didn't show up until the large flat part was added to the > assembly when I was gluing it up. It turns out that the angle was off by > .46 of a degree. I did wonder when I looked at the pics. I remember thinking "gee, that looks off by about 0.46 of a degree" and I was right! *snarf* -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Dec 2 06:48:34 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 06:48:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Tiny error, big result... In-Reply-To: <0KB8004N7IZBK730@smtp4.clear.net.nz> References: <0KB8004N7IZBK730@smtp4.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: On Tue, 2 Dec 2008, Sean Galbraith wrote: > >> When you're designing a cockpit that has any angles involved, you need to >> be very, very careful in how you lay it out. This one kept me up at night >> until I figured out what the root cause of the problem was. Fortunately, >> the error wasn't so bad that it required cutting new parts out of MDF. >> That crap is expensive, even at 1/2" sheet thickness. > > Could have been worse.... at least it didn't take a complete rebuild > of some major components! > It could've been much, much worse. > You say that MDF is expensive.... how much are we talking, since over > here MDF is cheap.. everyone uses it for everything. So cheap that > we use 1/2" or 3/4" MDF ripped down to 2" strips instead of buying > pine.... 2" x 1" for framing stuff... > A 97"x49"(*) sheet of 1/2" MDF is about $24 a sheet. The contrast is that the same size (well 96x48) of OSB is $8 and as little as $5 in the summer months. > SeanG > If I were you, I'd wonder when the sheep and the trees are going to get together and shove you all off that little patch of dirt. :) * The weird thing is, "standard" plywood sizes in the US is 96x48. It can be a pain sometimes. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Dec 2 07:00:54 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 07:00:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Tiny error, big result... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 2 Dec 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > On Mon, 1 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >> The windscreen components that I cut on Saturday had a tiny error in what >> I call the "root" angle. This is the angle that the windscren frame >> "tilts" in. This angle is based on the 2" wide "canopy bow" frame at the >> aft of the assembly. >> >> The error didn't show up until the large flat part was added to the >> assembly when I was gluing it up. It turns out that the angle was off by >> .46 of a degree. > > > I did wonder when I looked at the pics. I remember thinking "gee, that > looks off by about 0.46 of a degree" and I was right! > Well crap. You could've said something and saved me all the trouble of researching it. Jeeze. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Tue Dec 2 08:40:25 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:40:25 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Tiny error, big result... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 2 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > > You say that MDF is expensive.... how much are we talking, since over > > here MDF is cheap.. everyone uses it for everything. So cheap that > > we use 1/2" or 3/4" MDF ripped down to 2" strips instead of buying > > pine.... 2" x 1" for framing stuff... > > > A 97"x49"(*) sheet of 1/2" MDF is about $24 a sheet. The contrast is that > the same size (well 96x48) of OSB is $8 and as little as $5 in the summer > months. That same sheet of 1/2" MDF here in the UK will run you 14 UKP from B&Q (our version of Home Depot) which equates to $21 US. Boggle - you guys have it sooooo good ! -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Dec 2 07:44:27 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 07:44:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Simpits maintenance... Message-ID: The simpits.org server will be down for maintenance for a few hours today. This means that the mailing lists will be off line for a short period of time. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Tue Dec 2 08:41:59 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:41:59 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Tiny error, big result... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 2 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > > I did wonder when I looked at the pics. I remember thinking "gee, that > > looks off by about 0.46 of a degree" and I was right! > > > Well crap. You could've said something and saved me all the trouble of > researching it. Jeeze. :) I didn't wanna put you off, you seemed so happy. All my work relies on an interference fit. ie: the crappy workmanship ensures that all parts interfere with each other :-) -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From rd at ns.sympatico.ca Tue Dec 2 07:53:36 2008 From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 11:53:36 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] Tiny error, big result... References: Message-ID: <006701c95496$238cafe0$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> MDF here is 23.75 a sheet OSB is 12.85 If you can get it for 5.00 a sheet on any day of the week Gene, let me know. The stores here are paying more than 9.00/sheet. I recall the reason MDF runs an inch larger is because it is primarily used for cabinetry with the application of Veneers which gives a bit more wiggle room. Also, it is very susceptible to humidity. A 4 x 8 foot sheet made on a damp day may very well be less than that on a dry day. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Coates" To: "Simulator Cockpit tech list" Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 12:40 PM Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Tiny error, big result... > On Tue, 2 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >> > You say that MDF is expensive.... how much are we talking, since over >> > here MDF is cheap.. everyone uses it for everything. So cheap that >> > we use 1/2" or 3/4" MDF ripped down to 2" strips instead of buying >> > pine.... 2" x 1" for framing stuff... >> > >> A 97"x49"(*) sheet of 1/2" MDF is about $24 a sheet. The contrast is >> that >> the same size (well 96x48) of OSB is $8 and as little as $5 in the summer >> months. > > That same sheet of 1/2" MDF here in the UK will run you 14 UKP from B&Q > (our version of Home Depot) which equates to $21 US. > > Boggle - you guys have it sooooo good ! > > -- > > Roy Coates. > Dept of Engineering. > Liverpool University. > E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk > Tel: 0151 794 4862 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs > meter. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! From geneb at deltasoft.com Wed Dec 3 09:45:18 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 09:45:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] yes, another test... Message-ID: please don't reply. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Wed Dec 3 09:32:56 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 09:32:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] test Message-ID: test, please don't reply. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Wed Dec 3 09:40:24 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 09:40:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] test Message-ID: test, please don't reply -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Wed Dec 3 09:36:09 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 09:36:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] test Message-ID: test, please don't reply. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Dec 2 12:46:54 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 12:46:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] test Message-ID: Just a test, please don't reply. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From lestatandakasha at msn.com Tue Dec 2 10:50:57 2008 From: lestatandakasha at msn.com (Jamie) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 18:50:57 -0000 Subject: [simpits-tech] Saturday's WIP pics... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I would love to see that as well. I hear you are working on a eurocopter pit. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Roy Coates" Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 5:39 PM To: "Simulator Cockpit tech list" Cc: Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Saturday's WIP pics... > I'd send you some of my WIP pics but there isn't room in my garage for me, > the pit AND a camera ;-/ > > > -- > > Roy Coates. > Dept of Engineering. > Liverpool University. > E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk > Tel: 0151 794 4862 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs > meter. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > From catalina299 at gmail.com Tue Dec 2 16:15:34 2008 From: catalina299 at gmail.com (William Segal) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:15:34 -0800 Subject: [simpits-tech] using real aluminum Message-ID: <3a0a6c680812021615t66fcf2a9hb6a906d8e49e5a5f@mail.gmail.com> I have been looking into using Aluminum sheeting in 4ftx8ft sheets for outside of my simulator . I'd need about 4 sheets then I could rivet them in and start to look a plane . I just got a price today for 40/1000 plate 6061 of $90 a sheet which aint bad so my question is how would it like look punch rivets or would it look lousy ? Regards Bill -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081202/4ccc292c/attachment.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Wed Dec 3 19:32:46 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 19:32:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] big changes... Message-ID: Ok, I finally got the simpits webserver upgrade. Jumping from Fedora Core 4 to Fedora Core 9 isn't for the faint of heart. I've also changed the main website. Please surf over to http://www.simpits.org and read the front page. I'm hoping you folks will be pleased. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Wed Dec 3 13:41:29 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 21:41:29 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Saturday's WIP pics... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 2 Dec 2008, Jamie wrote: > I would love to see that as well. I hear you are working on a eurocopter > pit. > I'll have pics soon enough. The curren tproject is ostensibly a BAe J41 cockpit but uses parts from an HS125 (please don't ask!). The pit to follow is designed to be very portable for taking to shows etc and is based on the EC-135. The sim after that uses the cockpit section from a PA38 Tomahawk and will be - yep, a PA38 sim! Having just priced up the required simkits instruments though at 5k (UKP) I'm not sure how that will proceed yet! And after those... hmm.... -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sean.g at paradise.net.nz Wed Dec 3 21:32:32 2008 From: sean.g at paradise.net.nz (Sean Galbraith) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 18:32:32 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] big changes... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0KBC00CFI7EBZI10@smtp3.clear.net.nz> At 04:32 p.m. 4/12/2008, you wrote: >Ok, I finally got the simpits webserver upgrade. Jumping from Fedora Core >4 to Fedora Core 9 isn't for the faint of heart. never realised you were quite that brave Gene..... >I've also changed the main website. Please surf over to >http://www.simpits.org and read the front page. I'm hoping you folks will >be pleased. Well you'd have to say that it is a major change! Love the sim-blog concept! I especially like how you say "Got me this new fangled bloggy thing and I haven't a farking clue as to what I'm gonna do with it." and then proceed to err... "do something with it". That's pure class that it... Love it Ok, so I need to front up and build a "new fangled bloggy thing" too.... email to follow ;-) SeanG From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Wed Dec 3 13:43:10 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 21:43:10 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] using real aluminum In-Reply-To: <3a0a6c680812021615t66fcf2a9hb6a906d8e49e5a5f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 2 Dec 2008, William Segal wrote: > I have been looking into using Aluminum sheeting in 4ftx8ft sheets for > outside of my simulator . > > I'd need about 4 sheets then I could rivet them in and start to look a plane > . > > I just got a price today for 40/1000 plate 6061 of $90 a sheet which aint > bad so my > > question is how would it like look punch rivets or would it look lousy ? You mean pop rivets? They'd look just fine provided they are neat and in straight lines. Rivets look crap when they're not aligned properly! Why not just concentrate on the inside - that's where you'll be spending your time !! -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Thu Dec 4 03:56:06 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 11:56:06 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] big changes... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 3 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > Ok, I finally got the simpits webserver upgrade. Jumping from Fedora Core > 4 to Fedora Core 9 isn't for the faint of heart. cou*ubuntu*gh. > I've also changed the main website. Please surf over to > http://www.simpits.org and read the front page. I'm hoping you folks will > be pleased. I suppose you've now dragged us screaming and kicking into the 19th century. A neat idea though - guess it'll force us to actually DO something! -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Thu Dec 4 06:24:01 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 14:24:01 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) Message-ID: Using regular pots for poisition sensing is cheap and easy to do but there is a problem in obtaining the full rotation (270 deg ?) of the pot unless you build something like a gearbox or rack and pinion type affair. I had a cunning plan... because I'm using the circuit boards from some Logitech sticks, I wanted to get a 0 -> 100k reading from my pots without having to jump through hoops to get the full rotation. My cunning plan was to use 470k pots so that I only needed a partial rotation to get the desired resitance. But... wouldn't this draw additional current from the interface? I'm having trouble getting my head around this today so wanted some other (better) heads to consider it!! Thanks, Roy. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From phoenixcomm at gmail.com Tue Dec 2 10:07:39 2008 From: phoenixcomm at gmail.com (Cris Harrison) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:07:39 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Circuit Breakers In-Reply-To: References: <0FCB7EDC9BCE4269978EB1B60A2B1C95@flightsystems> Message-ID: Jay -- you realy have to define fast.. is it seconds, milliseconds, microseconds, or nanoseconds.... lets start with the fastest.. nanoseconds TTL (gates switch at 2-5 ns. (realy fast) microseconds instruction time of a microprocessor. milliseconds times fuses and circuit breakers pop (it has to heat up) seconds oh i wish i had a 11 second 1/4mile car :) so in old semiconductor amps the joke was the finals blow faster than the fuses!! last thought.. most of what you have in the cockpit is SIMULATED! ie what do you have to protect? In my cockpit i have control heads which have micros in them and my whole project is running on message passing via Ethernet please read more about my projects: www.phoenixcomm.net/~phnx2000/sim www.phoenixaerospace.us Cris Harrison A simulated crash is the ONLY crash you can walk away from... On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Joseph Fagner wrote: > Don't really want to blow them remotely, although that a pretty slick > idea with the SCR, I just wanted to use them as a functioning circuit > breaker to protect electronics and what not. > > > > You say they are fast but I have read that they are slow blow type > breakers, which is it? > > > > Jay > > > > *Show me a man who cannot be bothered to do the little things, and I will > show you a man who cannot be trusted to do the big ones.* > > *--Lawrence Bell, Founder Bell Hellicopter* > ------------------------------ > > *From:* simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto: > simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] *On Behalf Of *Cris Harrison > *Sent:* Monday, November 03, 2008 10:27 AM > *To:* Simulator Cockpit tech list > *Subject:* Re: [simpits-tech] Circuit Breakers > > > > RE: Joseph Fanger > > joe you can use real CB's but and them blow them remotely with a SCR (see > simptis.wetpaint.com), the CB carrys the load or drive relays > (bah), and dont worry about spikes ALL electro mechanical devices spike but > true aircraft brakers are very fast much faster than your > house and, i figure if it good enjouh for the AF etc then its good enjough > for me..... > Cris Harrison > www.phoenixcomm.net/~phnx2000/sim > www.phoenixaerospace.us > > On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 11:09 PM, Joseph Fagner < > crease-guard at sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > Believe it or not, I'm actually at a point now where I can start running > power to the sim. I seem to recall several years ago this topic but don't > recall the details. I have several aircraft type circuit breakers (DC > rated) I'd like to use for the DC voltages in the pit (I'll leave the AC > stuff to my house circuits). Does anyone know if these can safely be used > in this type of application? Some of you guys with Heavies pits, I know > ya'll use circuit breakers, what configurations are folks using, if any? > > > > Thanks > > Jay > > > > *Show me a man who cannot be bothered to do the little things, and I will > show you a man who cannot be trusted to do the big ones.* > > *--Lawrence Bell, Founder Bell Hellicopter* > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081202/b5793acc/attachment-0001.html From rd at ns.sympatico.ca Thu Dec 4 06:15:54 2008 From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 10:15:54 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) References: Message-ID: <002901c9561a$d259f8e0$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> Roy, Assuming you are only using two of the pots connectors (one being the wiper), you will only have an increase if you turn it down past the 100k position on the track. (partial rotation). I don't know what you application is, but I can't imagine it being a problem current-wise in any case. We are talking small (5 volt) pressure here aren't we? Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Coates" To: Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:24 AM Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) > > > Using regular pots for poisition sensing is cheap and easy to do but there > is a problem in obtaining the full rotation (270 deg ?) of the pot unless > you build something like a gearbox or rack and pinion type affair. > > I had a cunning plan... because I'm using the circuit boards from some > Logitech sticks, I wanted to get a 0 -> 100k reading from my pots without > having to jump through hoops to get the full rotation. My cunning plan was > to use 470k pots so that I only needed a partial rotation to get the > desired resitance. > > But... wouldn't this draw additional current from the interface? > > I'm having trouble getting my head around this today so wanted some other > (better) heads to consider it!! > > Thanks, > > Roy. > > > -- > > Roy Coates. > Dept of Engineering. > Liverpool University. > E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk > Tel: 0151 794 4862 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs > meter. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Thu Dec 4 07:34:10 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 15:34:10 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) In-Reply-To: <002901c9561a$d259f8e0$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> Message-ID: On Thu, 4 Dec 2008, Rick Davis wrote: > Roy, > > Assuming you are only using two of the pots connectors (one being the > wiper), you will only have an increase if you turn it down past the 100k > position on the track. (partial rotation). > > I don't know what you application is, but I can't imagine it being a problem > current-wise in any case. We are talking small (5 volt) pressure here aren't > we? I needed a lot of axes so I ripped the guts out of three logitech wingman pro sticks (12 axes !). I've just been playing with one of these units and the built-in pots vary between 80k and 90k with min/max values equally arbitrary too (as gene suspected). The current generation of the wingman 3D pro has no calibration software, it would appear that the driver automagically picks up on the sticks range. I've shot an email to logitech for their take on this. I'm using x-plane which has it's own joystick calibration system. This means that I can get a full range of motion in x-plane for a partial rotation of the pot - problem solved. The only issue now is one of resolution... hmm... I need some cunning rather than time-consuming engineering. Roy. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Dec 4 06:50:21 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 06:50:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] big changes... In-Reply-To: <0KBC00CFI7EBZI10@smtp3.clear.net.nz> References: <0KBC00CFI7EBZI10@smtp3.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: On Thu, 4 Dec 2008, Sean Galbraith wrote: > At 04:32 p.m. 4/12/2008, you wrote: >> Ok, I finally got the simpits webserver upgrade. Jumping from Fedora Core >> 4 to Fedora Core 9 isn't for the faint of heart. > > never realised you were quite that brave Gene..... > It needed to be done. That poor machine still has plenty of horsepower, but the software on it was getting badly dated. If nothing else I needed to do it for security reasons. >> I've also changed the main website. Please surf over to >> http://www.simpits.org and read the front page. I'm hoping you folks will >> be pleased. > > Well you'd have to say that it is a major change! Love the sim-blog concept! > > I especially like how you say "Got me this new fangled bloggy thing > and I haven't a farking clue as to what I'm gonna do with it." and > then proceed to err... "do something with it". That's pure class that > it... Love it > Hehe. Thanks Sean. > Ok, so I need to front up and build a "new fangled bloggy thing" > too.... email to follow ;-) > /me peers at his inbox... g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Dec 4 06:57:12 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 06:57:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] big changes... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 4 Dec 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > On Wed, 3 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >> Ok, I finally got the simpits webserver upgrade. Jumping from Fedora Core >> 4 to Fedora Core 9 isn't for the faint of heart. > > cou*ubuntu*gh. > I tried it once - nice desktop setup. Because I don't use X Window at all, the distribution really donsn't matter as long as the core tools are good. The "yum" application installer/maintainer is a very good tool. I don't know if Ubuntu uses that as well... > >> I've also changed the main website. Please surf over to >> http://www.simpits.org and read the front page. I'm hoping you folks will >> be pleased. > > I suppose you've now dragged us screaming and kicking into the 19th > century. A neat idea though - guess it'll force us to actually DO > something! Thanks. It got to the point where I needed to either hit the power switch for good or do something with it. Since I just don't have the time to provide content to the site, this was the best solution I could find. I'm just hoping I get more than one taker. :) *waves at Sean* g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Dec 4 07:01:25 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 07:01:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 4 Dec 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > > > Using regular pots for poisition sensing is cheap and easy to do but there > is a problem in obtaining the full rotation (270 deg ?) of the pot unless > you build something like a gearbox or rack and pinion type affair. > > I had a cunning plan... because I'm using the circuit boards from some > Logitech sticks, I wanted to get a 0 -> 100k reading from my pots without > having to jump through hoops to get the full rotation. My cunning plan was > to use 470k pots so that I only needed a partial rotation to get the > desired resitance. > > But... wouldn't this draw additional current from the interface? > > I'm having trouble getting my head around this today so wanted some other > (better) heads to consider it!! > Roy, are the pots wired so as to use all three legs or only two? g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Thu Dec 4 08:10:36 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 16:10:36 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] big changes... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 4 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > > cou*ubuntu*gh. > > > I tried it once - nice desktop setup. Because I don't use X Window at > all, the distribution really donsn't matter as long as the core tools are > good. The "yum" application installer/maintainer is a very good tool. > I don't know if Ubuntu uses that as well... I'm using Ubuntu for all my production servers now. I don't use X either since the servers are housed in a remote small building at the base of a very high radio mast (satellite fed). Ubuntu, being a Debian derivative, uses apt-get etc, which I like. > > I suppose you've now dragged us screaming and kicking into the 19th > > century. A neat idea though - guess it'll force us to actually DO > > something! > > Thanks. It got to the point where I needed to either hit the power switch > for good or do something with it. Since I just don't have the time to > provide content to the site, this was the best solution I could find. > > I'm just hoping I get more than one taker. :) *waves at Sean* I promise I'll write stuff up as I document the current sim build. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Dec 4 07:08:42 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 07:08:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > > The only issue now is one of resolution... hmm... I need some cunning > rather than time-consuming engineering. > Roy, the only way you're going to increase the resolution is to increase the sample size. I suspect that the logitech stick uses a three wire pot, in which case it's configured as a voltage divider. Most off the shelf joystick use a 10 bit sample rate which will give you a resolution of 0 to 1024. This is of course a huge improvement over the old style "analog" joysticks that PCs used to use - those were 8 bit samples. (0..255). If you want to go to a 12 bit sample size, you can get one of Leo Bodnar's BU0836A controllers. They provide for 8 axes and 32 button inputs and the sample range is 0..4096. This should be plenty for what you're trying to do. The good thing is that he's local to you and the device is listed as (insert funny pound sign here)24. Here's a link to the '386A: http://www.leobodnar.com/products/BU0836A/ g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Thu Dec 4 08:14:40 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 16:14:40 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Carbon or Conductive Plastic ? Message-ID: Only those who understood the subject line are likely to know the answer as to which is best and why ? Anyone? -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Dec 4 07:18:38 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 07:18:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Carbon or Conductive Plastic ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 4 Dec 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > > > Only those who understood the subject line are likely to know the answer > as to which is best and why ? > Conductive plastic is likely to be lubricated (embedded into the plastic) and may last longer. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Thu Dec 4 08:27:18 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 16:27:18 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 4 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > > Roy, are the pots wired so as to use all three legs or only two? > All three. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Thu Dec 4 08:28:43 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 16:28:43 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Carbon or Conductive Plastic ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 4 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > > Conductive plastic is likely to be lubricated (embedded into the plastic) > and may last longer. > Mmmm... useful. Can't find any info via google that may provide more info like noise etc. I've got both - will bolt plastic on and see how they fare. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From rd at ns.sympatico.ca Thu Dec 4 07:26:31 2008 From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 11:26:31 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] Carbon or Conductive Plastic ? References: Message-ID: <006401c95624$afc58a60$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> I think you'll find anything considered Military Grade will be Carbon. The biggest problem being burn in at a spot if left there a long time. Esp. where higher voltages/currents are concerned. Personally, I still prefer carbon traces over anything plastic. I have carbon pots here over 30 years old which are still like new today. R ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Buckle" To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Carbon or Conductive Plastic ? > On Thu, 4 Dec 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > >> >> >> Only those who understood the subject line are likely to know the answer >> as to which is best and why ? >> > > Conductive plastic is likely to be lubricated (embedded into the plastic) > and may last longer. > > g. > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Thu Dec 4 09:06:20 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 17:06:20 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Carbon or Conductive Plastic ? In-Reply-To: <006401c95624$afc58a60$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> Message-ID: On Thu, 4 Dec 2008, Rick Davis wrote: > I think you'll find anything considered Military Grade will be Carbon. The > biggest problem being burn in at a spot if left there a long time. Esp. > where higher voltages/currents are concerned. Personally, I still prefer > carbon traces over anything plastic. I have carbon pots here over 30 years > old which are still like new today. I too have some very old carbon pots which are as smooth as silk but I think the generic modern stuff is of a much lower quality. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Thu Dec 4 09:27:57 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 17:27:57 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 4 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > Roy, the only way you're going to increase the resolution is to increase > the sample size. Yup. The problem I have is a lack of time. I'm under enormous pressure to get this sim up and running by yesterday. I don't have time to build little gearboxes to drive the pots or to build my neat little rack-and-pinion devices either. I figure I'll do "the best I can" for now and hopefully re-visit the sensors at a later date. I thought Leo had gone OOB ? Roy. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From rd at ns.sympatico.ca Thu Dec 4 08:30:37 2008 From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:30:37 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) References: Message-ID: <008201c9562d$a41b4f20$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> >I thought Leo had gone OOB ? Roy. So did I? Did he revamp his company? From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Dec 4 09:06:15 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 09:06:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 4 Dec 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > On Thu, 4 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >> Roy, the only way you're going to increase the resolution is to increase >> the sample size. > > Yup. The problem I have is a lack of time. I'm under enormous pressure to > get this sim up and running by yesterday. I don't have time to build > little gearboxes to drive the pots or to build my neat little > rack-and-pinion devices either. > > I figure I'll do "the best I can" for now and hopefully re-visit the > sensors at a later date. > > I thought Leo had gone OOB ? > Are you sure that the existing travel you have right now won't be enough? Different Leo. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Dec 4 09:18:50 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 09:18:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) In-Reply-To: <008201c9562d$a41b4f20$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> References: <008201c9562d$a41b4f20$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> Message-ID: On Thu, 4 Dec 2008, Rick Davis wrote: >> I thought Leo had gone OOB ? > > Roy. > > So did I? Did he revamp his company? > Totally different Leo guys. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From crease-guard at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 4 10:06:25 2008 From: crease-guard at sbcglobal.net (Joseph Fagner) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:06:25 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Circuit Breakers In-Reply-To: References: <0FCB7EDC9BCE4269978EB1B60A2B1C95@flightsystems> Message-ID: <315FDEDEFAC94AB48D1B4E72D2695A70@flightsystems> Probably milliseconds would be fine. What do I have to protect?....My home. A fire from a shorted wire I can't see or notice right away when current is sinking to the chassis is my worry. The insulation catches fire and spreads and a fun hobby turns into disaster. Simulated or not, it's good practice to use protection in any chassis circuitry. Small shorts, can cause big problems.just ask the astronauts of Apollo 1 (of course, you'll need a Ouija board :-)) I'm more concerned with big shorts. Jay Show me a man who cannot be bothered to do the little things, and I will show you a man who cannot be trusted to do the big ones. --Lawrence Bell, Founder Bell Hellicopter _____ From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Cris Harrison Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 12:08 PM To: Simulator Cockpit tech list Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Circuit Breakers Jay -- you realy have to define fast.. is it seconds, milliseconds, microseconds, or nanoseconds.... lets start with the fastest.. nanoseconds TTL (gates switch at 2-5 ns. (realy fast) microseconds instruction time of a microprocessor. milliseconds times fuses and circuit breakers pop (it has to heat up) seconds oh i wish i had a 11 second 1/4mile car :) so in old semiconductor amps the joke was the finals blow faster than the fuses!! last thought.. most of what you have in the cockpit is SIMULATED! ie what do you have to protect? In my cockpit i have control heads which have micros in them and my whole project is running on message passing via Ethernet please read more about my projects: www.phoenixcomm.net/~phnx2000/sim www.phoenixaerospace.us Cris Harrison A simulated crash is the ONLY crash you can walk away from... On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Joseph Fagner wrote: Don't really want to blow them remotely, although that a pretty slick idea with the SCR, I just wanted to use them as a functioning circuit breaker to protect electronics and what not. You say they are fast but I have read that they are slow blow type breakers, which is it? Jay Show me a man who cannot be bothered to do the little things, and I will show you a man who cannot be trusted to do the big ones. --Lawrence Bell, Founder Bell Hellicopter _____ From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Cris Harrison Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 10:27 AM To: Simulator Cockpit tech list Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Circuit Breakers RE: Joseph Fanger joe you can use real CB's but and them blow them remotely with a SCR (see simptis.wetpaint.com), the CB carrys the load or drive relays (bah), and dont worry about spikes ALL electro mechanical devices spike but true aircraft brakers are very fast much faster than your house and, i figure if it good enjouh for the AF etc then its good enjough for me..... Cris Harrison www.phoenixcomm.net/~phnx2000/sim www.phoenixaerospace.us On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 11:09 PM, Joseph Fagner wrote: Believe it or not, I'm actually at a point now where I can start running power to the sim. I seem to recall several years ago this topic but don't recall the details. I have several aircraft type circuit breakers (DC rated) I'd like to use for the DC voltages in the pit (I'll leave the AC stuff to my house circuits). Does anyone know if these can safely be used in this type of application? Some of you guys with Heavies pits, I know ya'll use circuit breakers, what configurations are folks using, if any? 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URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081204/1b31a418/attachment-0001.html From sean.g at paradise.net.nz Thu Dec 4 10:34:25 2008 From: sean.g at paradise.net.nz (Sean Galbraith) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 07:34:25 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0KBD000SN7LGC020@smtp5.clear.net.nz> At 04:08 a.m. 5/12/2008, you wrote: > > > > The only issue now is one of resolution... hmm... I need some cunning > > rather than time-consuming engineering. > > > >Roy, the only way you're going to increase the resolution is to increase >the sample size. I suspect that the logitech stick uses a three wire pot, >in which case it's configured as a voltage divider. Most off the shelf >joystick use a 10 bit sample rate which will give you a resolution of 0 to >1024. This is of course a huge improvement over the old style "analog" >joysticks that PCs used to use - those were 8 bit samples. (0..255). > >If you want to go to a 12 bit sample size, you can get one of Leo Bodnar's >BU0836A controllers. They provide for 8 axes and 32 button inputs and the >sample range is 0..4096. This should be plenty for what you're trying to >do. The good thing is that he's local to you and the device is listed as >(insert funny pound sign here)24. > >Here's a link to the '386A: http://www.leobodnar.com/products/BU0836A/ I can only add a "use them they are great" comment... I've used a couple of Leo's boards now and have no reason to not keep on buying them! I like the "X" version (which I haven't bought yet) which has really simple push connectors... brilliant for a relatively simple, or quick project SeanG From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Dec 4 16:02:16 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 16:02:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] project update.... Message-ID: I posted 8 new videos showing construction details on the diy cockpit prototype. http://www.simpits.org/geneb enjoy! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From catalina299 at gmail.com Thu Dec 4 17:01:04 2008 From: catalina299 at gmail.com (William Segal) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 17:01:04 -0800 Subject: [simpits-tech] using with cut off dead rivets Message-ID: <3a0a6c680812041701q2aefa918ncab748d1ff881b92@mail.gmail.com> Roy says spend the doe on the inside. I can buy 40/1000 PVC sheets 4ft X8Ft because my sim is 6ft high because an ol fart like me can't crawl out I need to walk out. I can use PVC at $50 a sheet or I can drive the 40miles to Corona Aircraft spruce and they 32/1000 4ftx8ft sheets of 6061 aluminum for $68 a 4ftx8ft sheet me I think it would cool all riveted up but I am looking for some opinions . I will need 5 sheets ? It's open season on me .. What do the members think ????????????? Regards Bill -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081204/17c7f06e/attachment.html From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Thu Dec 4 19:15:56 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 03:15:56 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 4 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > > I figure I'll do "the best I can" for now and hopefully re-visit the > > sensors at a later date. > > > > Are you sure that the existing travel you have right now won't be enough? > As you quite rightly said, you need the largest sample you can get. Using the quick'n'dirty bell-crank method of operating the pot, I can only get maybe a 1/3 of the full travel. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Thu Dec 4 19:18:56 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 03:18:56 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Circuit Breakers In-Reply-To: <315FDEDEFAC94AB48D1B4E72D2695A70@flightsystems> Message-ID: On Thu, 4 Dec 2008, Joseph Fagner wrote: > I'm more concerned with > big shorts. > What, like those big hawaiian jobs ? i'll take fuses over klixon-style circuit breakers any day. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Thu Dec 4 19:22:38 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 03:22:38 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] project update.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 4 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > I posted 8 new videos showing construction details on the diy cockpit > prototype. > > http://www.simpits.org/geneb > it's way past 2am - will look at this one tomorrow when there's half a chance I'll have _both_ eyes open! -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Dec 4 18:55:18 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 18:55:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > On Thu, 4 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >>> I figure I'll do "the best I can" for now and hopefully re-visit the >>> sensors at a later date. >>> >> >> Are you sure that the existing travel you have right now won't be enough? >> > > > As you quite rightly said, you need the largest sample you can get. Using > the quick'n'dirty bell-crank method of operating the pot, I can only get > maybe a 1/3 of the full travel. Right, but if you calibrate the device at the travel you have available, it'll scale that to the 0..1024 range. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From crease-guard at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 4 19:45:54 2008 From: crease-guard at sbcglobal.net (Joseph Fagner) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 21:45:54 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Circuit Breakers In-Reply-To: References: <315FDEDEFAC94AB48D1B4E72D2695A70@flightsystems> Message-ID: <862224D5D8954A3BA696BAFED3B2441C@flightsystems> I'm actually going to try and use both. Someone mentioned that previously using the fuses for protection but the breakers to pop the circuit to work on the electronics. I like that idea and am going that direction. Jay Show me a man who cannot be bothered to do the little things, and I will show you a man who cannot be trusted to do the big ones. --Lawrence Bell, Founder Bell Hellicopter -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Roy Coates Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 9:19 PM To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Circuit Breakers On Thu, 4 Dec 2008, Joseph Fagner wrote: > I'm more concerned with > big shorts. > What, like those big hawaiian jobs ? i'll take fuses over klixon-style circuit breakers any day. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. 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From lestatandakasha at msn.com Fri Dec 5 01:12:25 2008 From: lestatandakasha at msn.com (Jamie) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:12:25 -0000 Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) In-Reply-To: <0KBD000SN7LGC020@smtp5.clear.net.nz> References: <0KBD000SN7LGC020@smtp5.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: -------------------------------------------------- From: "Sean Galbraith" Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 6:34 PM To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) > At 04:08 a.m. 5/12/2008, you wrote: >> > >> > The only issue now is one of resolution... hmm... I need some cunning >> > rather than time-consuming engineering. >> > >> >>Roy, the only way you're going to increase the resolution is to increase >>the sample size. I suspect that the logitech stick uses a three wire pot, >>in which case it's configured as a voltage divider. Most off the shelf >>joystick use a 10 bit sample rate which will give you a resolution of 0 to >>1024. This is of course a huge improvement over the old style "analog" >>joysticks that PCs used to use - those were 8 bit samples. (0..255). >> >>If you want to go to a 12 bit sample size, you can get one of Leo Bodnar's >>BU0836A controllers. They provide for 8 axes and 32 button inputs and the >>sample range is 0..4096. This should be plenty for what you're trying to >>do. The good thing is that he's local to you and the device is listed as >>(insert funny pound sign here)24. >> >>Here's a link to the '386A: http://www.leobodnar.com/products/BU0836A/ > > I can only add a "use them they are great" comment... I've used a > couple of Leo's boards now and have no reason to not keep on buying > them! I like the "X" version (which I haven't bought yet) which has > really simple push connectors... brilliant for a relatively simple, > or quick project > > SeanG > Agreed - im sitting here with 5 of them and ill be ordering more after Christmas I have mine all customized with unique names to help with calabration. The X version is the one ill be ordering, I only wish it was available when I ordered the others. > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Fri Dec 5 05:45:44 2008 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 05:45:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <649270.38236.qm@web111508.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> That looks like a slick little controller. You will get much better results wilth that than with opening a joystick. ? For those of you who have used this controller, does it stay calibrated like an EPIC does? ? Justin To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" At 04:08 a.m. 5/12/2008, you wrote: > > > > The only issue now is one of resolution... hmm... I need some cunning > > rather than time-consuming engineering. > > > >Roy, the only way you're going to increase the resolution is to increase >the sample size.? I suspect that the logitech stick uses a three wire pot, >in which case it's configured as a voltage divider.? Most off the shelf >joystick use a 10 bit sample rate which will give you a resolution of 0 to >1024.? This is of course a huge improvement over the old style "analog" >joysticks that PCs used to use - those were 8 bit samples. (0..255). > >If you want to go to a 12 bit sample size, you can get one of Leo Bodnar's >BU0836A controllers.? They provide for 8 axes and 32 button inputs and the >sample range is 0..4096.? This should be plenty for what you're trying to >do.? The good thing is that he's local to you and the device is listed as >(insert funny pound sign here)24. > >Here's a link to the '386A: http://www.leobodnar.com/products/BU0836A/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081205/c5d51cb1/attachment.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Dec 5 06:42:36 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 06:42:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) In-Reply-To: References: <0KBD000SN7LGC020@smtp5.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, Jamie wrote: > Agreed - im sitting here with 5 of them and ill be ordering more after > Christmas I have mine all customized with unique names to help with > calabration. > Ok, I'm dying to know. What on earth are you building that needs 40 joystick axes? :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Fri Dec 5 05:54:44 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 13:54:44 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 4 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > > As you quite rightly said, you need the largest sample you can get. Using > > the quick'n'dirty bell-crank method of operating the pot, I can only get > > maybe a 1/3 of the full travel. > > Right, but if you calibrate the device at the travel you have available, > it'll scale that to the 0..1024 range. Problem here being that the current generation of logitech wingman sticks have no calibration routine - it's all built in to the hardware. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Dec 5 07:40:10 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 07:40:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > On Thu, 4 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >>> As you quite rightly said, you need the largest sample you can get. Using >>> the quick'n'dirty bell-crank method of operating the pot, I can only get >>> maybe a 1/3 of the full travel. >> >> Right, but if you calibrate the device at the travel you have available, >> it'll scale that to the 0..1024 range. > > Problem here being that the current generation of logitech wingman sticks > have no calibration routine - it's all built in to the hardware. So override the built-in calibration by doing it via the Control Panel (Control Panel->Game Controllers) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Fri Dec 5 08:35:08 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:35:08 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > Ok, I'm dying to know. What on earth are you building that needs 40 > joystick axes? :) http://www.inthenightgarden.co.uk/en/visit-pinkyponk.asp Make sure you click the "Play Clip" button :-) -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From lestatandakasha at msn.com Fri Dec 5 09:25:35 2008 From: lestatandakasha at msn.com (Jamie) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 17:25:35 -0000 Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) In-Reply-To: <0KBD000SN7LGC020@smtp5.clear.net.nz> References: <0KBD000SN7LGC020@smtp5.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: I build custom switchgear for different clients. Usually helicopter stuff. I have 3 collectives here for different aircraft. also collecting the bits for an EC-135 simulator for the weston-super-mare Helicopter Museum. ( which is why im sniffing around Roys project) I have a test bed with multiple controllers, and use several setups for different hardware. I was also one of the few who built a 206 simulator and then found that the Dodo didn't support everything I wanted. (any suggestions?) Ok that's enough from me - going back to passive mode. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Gene Buckle" Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 2:42 PM To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) > On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, Jamie wrote: > >> Agreed - im sitting here with 5 of them and ill be ordering more after >> Christmas I have mine all customized with unique names to help with >> calabration. >> > Ok, I'm dying to know. What on earth are you building that needs 40 > joystick axes? :) > > g. > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Dec 5 11:59:24 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 11:59:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >> Ok, I'm dying to know. What on earth are you building that needs 40 >> joystick axes? :) > > > http://www.inthenightgarden.co.uk/en/visit-pinkyponk.asp > > Make sure you click the "Play Clip" button :-) > What. The. F*ck? g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Fri Dec 5 09:05:57 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 17:05:57 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > > Problem here being that the current generation of logitech wingman sticks > > have no calibration routine - it's all built in to the hardware. > > So override the built-in calibration by doing it via the Control Panel > (Control Panel->Game Controllers) Ah, that is were so easy! If you plug in a newer wingman - that option vanishes. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Dec 5 12:27:58 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 12:27:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >>> Problem here being that the current generation of logitech wingman sticks >>> have no calibration routine - it's all built in to the hardware. >> >> So override the built-in calibration by doing it via the Control Panel >> (Control Panel->Game Controllers) > > > Ah, that is were so easy! > > If you plug in a newer wingman - that option vanishes. > Ummmm. Wow. I'm out of ideas Roy. Best get you some fancy gears. :) g -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From rd at ns.sympatico.ca Fri Dec 5 09:49:55 2008 From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 13:49:55 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) References: Message-ID: <016401c95701$e2e6cc50$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> My Lord. It's pretty cool and all, but if I saw that coming at me in the dark I'd get out a bat and give it a binky-bonk or a cracky-whack! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Coates" To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 12:35 PM Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) > On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >> Ok, I'm dying to know. What on earth are you building that needs 40 >> joystick axes? :) > > > http://www.inthenightgarden.co.uk/en/visit-pinkyponk.asp > > Make sure you click the "Play Clip" button :-) > > > -- > > Roy Coates. > Dept of Engineering. > Liverpool University. > E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk > Tel: 0151 794 4862 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs > meter. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Fri Dec 5 08:22:22 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:22:22 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, Jamie wrote: > > > Agreed - im sitting here with 5 of them and ill be ordering more after > > Christmas I have mine all customized with unique names to help with > > calabration. > > > Ok, I'm dying to know. What on earth are you building that needs 40 > joystick axes? :) I know !! I know !!! -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From rd at ns.sympatico.ca Fri Dec 5 13:10:03 2008 From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 17:10:03 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) References: Message-ID: <01bd01c9571d$d7c57580$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> Jamie! How did you get five of those pinky ponk, bunky bat, thingy bobs?! ha ha I want one too. It reminds me of someone Id like to clobber the living shit out of. There is a story behind this isn't there Roy? Sorry ... I couldn't help myself. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Coates" To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) > On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >> On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, Jamie wrote: >> >> > Agreed - im sitting here with 5 of them and ill be ordering more after >> > Christmas I have mine all customized with unique names to help with >> > calabration. >> > >> Ok, I'm dying to know. What on earth are you building that needs 40 >> joystick axes? :) > > > I know !! I know !!! > > > -- > > Roy Coates. > Dept of Engineering. > Liverpool University. > E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk > Tel: 0151 794 4862 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs > meter. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! From rd at ns.sympatico.ca Fri Dec 5 13:11:54 2008 From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 17:11:54 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) References: <01bd01c9571d$d7c57580$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> Message-ID: <01c601c9571e$1ba0acc0$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> > > Agreed - im sitting here with 5 of them and ill be ordering more after > > Christmas I have mine all customized with unique names to help with > > calabration. Pinky Ponks? LMFAO!!!!! From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Fri Dec 5 16:48:39 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 00:48:39 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > > http://www.inthenightgarden.co.uk/en/visit-pinkyponk.asp > > > > Make sure you click the "Play Clip" button :-) > > > > What. The. F*ck? ROFL !! My one year old ferkin _loves_ the night garden, I get to watch it most days and it rocks. I can't dtermine the type of power plant used though, check here for "in-flight sounds". http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=tpG_WDFDtvY&feature=related They dish this stuff out for the kids, and then tell them not to do drugs! -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Fri Dec 5 16:49:13 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 00:49:13 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > > If you plug in a newer wingman - that option vanishes. > > > Ummmm. Wow. I'm out of ideas Roy. Best get you some fancy gears. :) Indeed - got a big box of 'em :) -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Fri Dec 5 16:50:32 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 00:50:32 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) In-Reply-To: <01bd01c9571d$d7c57580$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> Message-ID: On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, Rick Davis wrote: > Jamie! > > How did you get five of those pinky ponk, bunky bat, thingy bobs?! > > ha ha > > I want one too. It reminds me of someone Id like to clobber the living shit > out of. > > There is a story behind this isn't there Roy? > > Sorry ... I couldn't help myself. /* Blank Look */ -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Fri Dec 5 16:50:48 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 00:50:48 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) In-Reply-To: <01c601c9571e$1ba0acc0$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> Message-ID: On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, Rick Davis wrote: > Pinky Ponks? > > LMFAO!!!!! Heh :) -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From rd at ns.sympatico.ca Fri Dec 5 15:48:46 2008 From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 19:48:46 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) References: Message-ID: <028601c95734$03a32830$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> I knew it was a kid's TV show. Had to be, and very well done. What channel? R ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Coates" To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) > On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, Rick Davis wrote: > >> Jamie! >> >> How did you get five of those pinky ponk, bunky bat, thingy bobs?! >> >> ha ha >> >> I want one too. It reminds me of someone Id like to clobber the living >> shit >> out of. >> >> There is a story behind this isn't there Roy? >> >> Sorry ... I couldn't help myself. > > > /* Blank Look */ > > > -- > > Roy Coates. > Dept of Engineering. > Liverpool University. > E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk > Tel: 0151 794 4862 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs > meter. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Fri Dec 5 16:49:50 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 00:49:50 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) In-Reply-To: <016401c95701$e2e6cc50$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> Message-ID: On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, Rick Davis wrote: > My Lord. > > It's pretty cool and all, but if I saw that coming at me in the dark I'd get > out a bat and give it a binky-bonk or a cracky-whack! I wish I was a kid again... I mean properly, not this mid-life crisis rubbish. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From lestatandakasha at msn.com Fri Dec 5 16:25:23 2008 From: lestatandakasha at msn.com (Jamie) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 00:25:23 -0000 Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: /me sighs. I started this by accident :/ I have never laughed so much reading me e-mail. Thanks guys. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Roy Coates" Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 12:49 AM To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) > On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, Rick Davis wrote: > >> My Lord. >> >> It's pretty cool and all, but if I saw that coming at me in the dark I'd >> get >> out a bat and give it a binky-bonk or a cracky-whack! > > > I wish I was a kid again... I mean properly, not this mid-life crisis > rubbish. > > > -- > > Roy Coates. > Dept of Engineering. > Liverpool University. > E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk > Tel: 0151 794 4862 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs > meter. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > From rd at ns.sympatico.ca Fri Dec 5 16:32:06 2008 From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 20:32:06 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) References: Message-ID: <02d401c9573a$11788300$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> Don't get all sappy on us Roy. I got aches and pains in places I didn't know I had. Hernias, haemorrhoids, Melanoma, BCC, my mind don't work that good these days. Old-Timers and at a young age. My kids are grown up and gone thank God. But I do have to say ... the smell of baby powder is somehow a wonderful thing. I think you should be commended for bringing forth offspring, which you have control over. I had little control over mine. The "ex" took 'em along with my credit, savings and future! ha ha Fortunately, my life is much, much, better now. (thanks to my new gal) I hope you understand I was just having some fun. I was thinking about a "bug sim" or something. LAUGH for God's Sake. R ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Coates" To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 8:49 PM Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) > On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, Rick Davis wrote: > >> My Lord. >> >> It's pretty cool and all, but if I saw that coming at me in the dark I'd >> get >> out a bat and give it a binky-bonk or a cracky-whack! > > > I wish I was a kid again... I mean properly, not this mid-life crisis > rubbish. > > > -- > > Roy Coates. > Dept of Engineering. > Liverpool University. > E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk > Tel: 0151 794 4862 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs > meter. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! From rhommel at mad.scientist.com Fri Dec 5 20:24:55 2008 From: rhommel at mad.scientist.com (Rob Hommel) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 23:24:55 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) Message-ID: <20081206042455.66435BE4078@ws1-9.us4.outblaze.com> I get it he is building a plinky poink simulator. Keep em Flying Rob Hommel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Davis" To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 17:10:03 -0400 Jamie! How did you get five of those pinky ponk, bunky bat, thingy bobs?! ha ha I want one too. It reminds me of someone Id like to clobber the living shit out of. There is a story behind this isn't there Roy? Sorry ... I couldn't help myself. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Coates" To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) > On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >> On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, Jamie wrote: >> >> > Agreed - im sitting here with 5 of them and ill be ordering more after >> > Christmas I have mine all customized with unique names to help with >> > calabration. >> > >> Ok, I'm dying to know. What on earth are you building that needs 40 >> joystick axes? :) > > > I know !! I know !!! > > > -- > > Roy Coates. > Dept of Engineering. > Liverpool University. > E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk > Tel: 0151 794 4862 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the > above page. Thanks! _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Dec 5 22:28:45 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 22:28:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, 6 Dec 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, Rick Davis wrote: > >> My Lord. >> >> It's pretty cool and all, but if I saw that coming at me in the dark I'd get >> out a bat and give it a binky-bonk or a cracky-whack! > > > I wish I was a kid again... I mean properly, not this mid-life crisis > rubbish. Dude, take what you can get and run like hell with it. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Sat Dec 6 06:44:37 2008 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 06:44:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <364641.79041.qm@web111501.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> ? Yes, you would need many pots for that!! ROFL!!! ? Justin ? Friday, December 5, 2008 10:35 AM From: "Roy Coates" To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > Ok, I'm dying to know.? What on earth are you building that needs 40 > joystick axes? :) http://www.inthenightgarden.co.uk/en/visit-pinkyponk.asp Make sure you click the "Play Clip" button? :-) -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081206/5131a5f3/attachment.html From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Sat Dec 6 14:19:16 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 22:19:16 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) In-Reply-To: <028601c95734$03a32830$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> Message-ID: On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, Rick Davis wrote: > I knew it was a kid's TV show. > > Had to be, and very well done. > > What channel? I think it's a BBC production, it's certainly shown on the "CBeebies Bedtime Hour" each evening. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From rd at ns.sympatico.ca Sat Dec 6 13:46:25 2008 From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 17:46:25 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) References: Message-ID: <006801c957ec$1673dc80$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> I'll have to admit Roy, when I first saw it, I thought it was some new assortment of toys for the garden. Then I thought ... who in the hell could afford that? Then I saw the eyes going up and down on the little whatchmacallit guy. Is there any animation in this, or is it all electronic/robotic? And are you working on this? Putting all the jokes aside, it really is sort of cutting edge cartoon wise don't you think? Remember the old Stingray show with the puppets, where you could actually see the strings! "Mareeena, mareeeena." I'm dating myself. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Coates" To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 6:19 PM Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) > On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, Rick Davis wrote: > >> I knew it was a kid's TV show. >> >> Had to be, and very well done. >> >> What channel? > > > I think it's a BBC production, it's certainly shown on the "CBeebies > Bedtime Hour" each evening. > > > -- > > Roy Coates. > Dept of Engineering. > Liverpool University. > E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk > Tel: 0151 794 4862 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs > meter. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Sat Dec 6 14:24:03 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 22:24:03 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > Dude, take what you can get and run like hell with it. :) I've been doing that for a long long time mate ! -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Sat Dec 6 14:22:43 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 22:22:43 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) In-Reply-To: <02d401c9573a$11788300$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> Message-ID: On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, Rick Davis wrote: > Don't get all sappy on us Roy. > I got aches and pains in places I didn't know I had. Hernias, haemorrhoids, > Melanoma, BCC, my mind don't work that good these days. Old-Timers and at a > young age. I've just done a 9 hour stretch working on the sim - boy does my back complain, but I now have a floor!! > My kids are grown up and gone thank God. But I do have to say ... the smell > of baby powder is somehow a wonderful thing. Nooo... not any more. Current thinking is that baby powder can cause respiratory problems. > I think you should be commended for bringing forth offspring, which you have > control over. I had little control over mine. Control? since when !!!? > The "ex" took 'em along with my credit, savings and future! ha ha > Fortunately, my life is much, much, better now. (thanks to my new gal) > I hope you understand I was just having some fun. I was thinking about a > "bug sim" or something. Women come and women go - financial stabilty just goes! ;-) > LAUGH for God's Sake. Believe me - I do, it's the only thing they ain't taxed yet ! -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Sat Dec 6 23:01:20 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 23:01:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Muhahahahaha. :D Message-ID: http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/cockpit_open.png g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From sander at vpilot.net Sat Dec 6 23:54:37 2008 From: sander at vpilot.net (Sander van der Moolen) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 08:54:37 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] Muhahahahaha. :D In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Looking awesome! Great work Gene. -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] Namens Gene Buckle Verzonden: zondag 7 december 2008 8:01 Aan: simpits-tech at simpits.org Onderwerp: [simpits-tech] Muhahahahaha. :D http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/cockpit_open.png g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From geneb at deltasoft.com Sun Dec 7 08:21:47 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 08:21:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Muhahahahaha. :D In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, 7 Dec 2008, Sander van der Moolen wrote: > Looking awesome! Great work Gene. > > Thanks Sander. I hope to have the plans ready to go in a couple of weeks. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Sun Dec 7 15:20:10 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 23:20:10 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) In-Reply-To: <006801c957ec$1673dc80$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> Message-ID: On Sat, 6 Dec 2008, Rick Davis wrote: > I'll have to admit Roy, when I first saw it, I thought it was some new > assortment of toys for the garden. > Then I thought ... who in the hell could afford that? Then I saw the eyes > going up and down on the little whatchmacallit guy. > > Is there any animation in this, or is it all electronic/robotic? And are you > working on this? Putting all the jokes aside, it really is sort of cutting > edge cartoon wise don't you think? It's a mix of people in suits and some clever cgi. I have nothing to do with it !! > Remember the old Stingray show with the > puppets, where you could actually see the strings! "Mareeena, mareeeena." > > I'm dating myself. Ah... the lovely Marina... ooooh.... I remember her well! Try these! http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=E06cNv55jTs and http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=CkJjWgjtVlE Remember others like Fireball XL5, Thunderbirds and Joe 90 ? Ah, happy days!! Roy. Founder member - the old farts club! -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From rd at ns.sympatico.ca Sun Dec 7 17:04:35 2008 From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 21:04:35 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) References: Message-ID: <002e01c958d0$f0157630$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> Bwahahaha! Thanks for those Roy! Absolute classics! I remember many a morning skipping school to sneak back home to watch those. I could never figure out why they aired that stuff at a time when everyone was "supposed" to be in school. Guess that's why I was in the sixth grade for three times running (kidding!) Those were simpler days. R ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Coates" To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) > On Sat, 6 Dec 2008, Rick Davis wrote: > >> I'll have to admit Roy, when I first saw it, I thought it was some new >> assortment of toys for the garden. >> Then I thought ... who in the hell could afford that? Then I saw the eyes >> going up and down on the little whatchmacallit guy. >> >> Is there any animation in this, or is it all electronic/robotic? And are >> you >> working on this? Putting all the jokes aside, it really is sort of >> cutting >> edge cartoon wise don't you think? > > It's a mix of people in suits and some clever cgi. I have nothing to do > with it !! > > > >> Remember the old Stingray show with the >> puppets, where you could actually see the strings! "Mareeena, mareeeena." >> >> I'm dating myself. > > Ah... the lovely Marina... ooooh.... I remember her well! > > Try these! http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=E06cNv55jTs > and http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=CkJjWgjtVlE > > > Remember others like Fireball XL5, Thunderbirds and Joe 90 ? Ah, happy > days!! > > > Roy. Founder member - the old farts club! > > -- > > Roy Coates. > Dept of Engineering. > Liverpool University. > E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk > Tel: 0151 794 4862 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs > meter. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Mon Dec 8 07:33:59 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 15:33:59 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) In-Reply-To: <002e01c958d0$f0157630$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> Message-ID: On Sun, 7 Dec 2008, Rick Davis wrote: > Bwahahaha! > > Thanks for those Roy! > > Absolute classics! > > I remember many a morning skipping school to sneak back home to watch those. > I could never figure out why they aired that stuff at a time when everyone > was "supposed" to be in school. Guess that's why I was in the sixth grade > for three times running (kidding!) I seem to recall these were all saturday morning classics - I can remember being glued to the TV for them :-) Remember "Supercar" ? I seem to be one of the few that does. > > Those were simpler days. > Yeah... just a bit !! -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From rd at ns.sympatico.ca Mon Dec 8 08:06:36 2008 From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 12:06:36 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) References: Message-ID: <006901c9594e$f2b30730$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> Supercar? Can't say as I recall that one. R ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Coates" To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 11:33 AM Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) > On Sun, 7 Dec 2008, Rick Davis wrote: > >> Bwahahaha! >> >> Thanks for those Roy! >> >> Absolute classics! >> >> I remember many a morning skipping school to sneak back home to watch >> those. >> I could never figure out why they aired that stuff at a time when >> everyone >> was "supposed" to be in school. Guess that's why I was in the sixth grade >> for three times running (kidding!) > > I seem to recall these were all saturday morning classics - I can remember > being glued to the TV for them :-) > > Remember "Supercar" ? I seem to be one of the few that does. > > >> >> Those were simpler days. >> > > Yeah... just a bit !! > > > -- > > Roy Coates. > Dept of Engineering. > Liverpool University. > E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk > Tel: 0151 794 4862 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs > meter. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! From jimsturs at parambus.com Mon Dec 8 07:44:58 2008 From: jimsturs at parambus.com (Jims Parambus Account) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 16:44:58 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) In-Reply-To: References: <002e01c958d0$f0157630$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> Message-ID: <002d01c9594b$ed87a980$0416a8c0@RITASYS1> You're not alone in remembering those early "superanimation" days. I have a BBC video collection of Supercar. Anyone want to make a simpit, could be interesting? Jim. -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Roy Coates Sent: 08 December 2008 16:34 To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) On Sun, 7 Dec 2008, Rick Davis wrote: > Bwahahaha! > > Thanks for those Roy! > > Absolute classics! > > I remember many a morning skipping school to sneak back home to watch those. > I could never figure out why they aired that stuff at a time when everyone > was "supposed" to be in school. Guess that's why I was in the sixth grade > for three times running (kidding!) I seem to recall these were all saturday morning classics - I can remember being glued to the TV for them :-) Remember "Supercar" ? I seem to be one of the few that does. > > Those were simpler days. > Yeah... just a bit !! -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From jimsturs at parambus.com Mon Dec 8 08:48:37 2008 From: jimsturs at parambus.com (Jims Parambus Account) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 17:48:37 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) In-Reply-To: <002d01c9594b$ed87a980$0416a8c0@RITASYS1> References: <002e01c958d0$f0157630$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> <002d01c9594b$ed87a980$0416a8c0@RITASYS1> Message-ID: <002e01c95954$d1350e90$0416a8c0@RITASYS1> Sorry, "Supermarionation". Jim. -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Jims Parambus Account Sent: 08 December 2008 16:45 To: 'Simulator Cockpit Builder's List' Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) You're not alone in remembering those early "superanimation" days. I have a BBC video collection of Supercar. Anyone want to make a simpit, could be interesting? Jim. -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Roy Coates Sent: 08 December 2008 16:34 To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) On Sun, 7 Dec 2008, Rick Davis wrote: > Bwahahaha! > > Thanks for those Roy! > > Absolute classics! > > I remember many a morning skipping school to sneak back home to watch those. > I could never figure out why they aired that stuff at a time when everyone > was "supposed" to be in school. Guess that's why I was in the sixth grade > for three times running (kidding!) I seem to recall these were all saturday morning classics - I can remember being glued to the TV for them :-) Remember "Supercar" ? I seem to be one of the few that does. > > Those were simpler days. > Yeah... just a bit !! -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From jimsturs at parambus.com Mon Dec 8 08:54:51 2008 From: jimsturs at parambus.com (Jims Parambus Account) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 17:54:51 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) References: <002e01c958d0$f0157630$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> <002d01c9594b$ed87a980$0416a8c0@RITASYS1> Message-ID: <002f01c95955$b02a8a80$0416a8c0@RITASYS1> Or how about the nose module of Fireball XL5, or even Thunderbird One??? Geez, I think the brain has gone. Jim. -----Original Message----- From: Jims Parambus Account [mailto:jimsturs at parambus.com] Sent: 08 December 2008 17:49 To: 'jimsturs at parambus.com'; 'Simulator Cockpit Builder's List' Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) Sorry, "Supermarionation". Jim. -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Jims Parambus Account Sent: 08 December 2008 16:45 To: 'Simulator Cockpit Builder's List' Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) You're not alone in remembering those early "superanimation" days. I have a BBC video collection of Supercar. Anyone want to make a simpit, could be interesting? Jim. -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Roy Coates Sent: 08 December 2008 16:34 To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) On Sun, 7 Dec 2008, Rick Davis wrote: > Bwahahaha! > > Thanks for those Roy! > > Absolute classics! > > I remember many a morning skipping school to sneak back home to watch those. > I could never figure out why they aired that stuff at a time when everyone > was "supposed" to be in school. Guess that's why I was in the sixth grade > for three times running (kidding!) I seem to recall these were all saturday morning classics - I can remember being glued to the TV for them :-) Remember "Supercar" ? I seem to be one of the few that does. > > Those were simpler days. > Yeah... just a bit !! -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From jimsturs at parambus.com Mon Dec 8 10:15:00 2008 From: jimsturs at parambus.com (Jims Parambus Account) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 19:15:00 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) References: <002e01c958d0$f0157630$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> <002d01c9594b$ed87a980$0416a8c0@RITASYS1> Message-ID: <003001c95960$e23a3dd0$0416a8c0@RITASYS1> Or how about the nose module of Fireball XL5, or even Thunderbird One??? Geez, I think the brain has gone. Jim. -----Original Message----- From: Jims Parambus Account [mailto:jimsturs at parambus.com] Sent: 08 December 2008 17:49 To: 'jimsturs at parambus.com'; 'Simulator Cockpit Builder's List' Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) Sorry, "Supermarionation". Jim. -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Jims Parambus Account Sent: 08 December 2008 16:45 To: 'Simulator Cockpit Builder's List' Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) You're not alone in remembering those early "superanimation" days. I have a BBC video collection of Supercar. Anyone want to make a simpit, could be interesting? Jim. -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Roy Coates Sent: 08 December 2008 16:34 To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) On Sun, 7 Dec 2008, Rick Davis wrote: > Bwahahaha! > > Thanks for those Roy! > > Absolute classics! > > I remember many a morning skipping school to sneak back home to watch those. > I could never figure out why they aired that stuff at a time when everyone > was "supposed" to be in school. Guess that's why I was in the sixth grade > for three times running (kidding!) I seem to recall these were all saturday morning classics - I can remember being glued to the TV for them :-) Remember "Supercar" ? I seem to be one of the few that does. > > Those were simpler days. > Yeah... just a bit !! -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From adm.design at verizon.net Mon Dec 8 15:14:38 2008 From: adm.design at verizon.net (Alan D. Mazurka) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 18:14:38 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) In-Reply-To: References: <002e01c958d0$f0157630$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> Message-ID: <0KBK00AJ0Z8H5A87@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> At 10:33 AM 12/8/2008, you wrote: >I seem to recall these were all saturday morning classics - I can remember >being glued to the TV for them :-) > >Remember "Supercar" ? I seem to be one of the few that does sure - it's Mercury manned, and everyone cries "It's the wonder of the age". the trek from Supercar to Fireball was really a gigantic one. some of the story plots were _very_ good science fiction - beyond the heads of the intended audience. we got the whole bunch (everything up to Thunderbirds) on DVD. something went away when they became too realistic. there was something about a "real" supercar, fireball, thunderbird that made them so attractive. computer-generated imagery is far too sterile. knowing that somewhere, there was an actual supercar sitting on a shelf had a lot of meaning to me as a kid. i digress. - adm - ---------- Alan D. Mazurka adm.design at verizon.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Mon Dec 8 18:52:51 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 02:52:51 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) In-Reply-To: <002d01c9594b$ed87a980$0416a8c0@RITASYS1> Message-ID: On Mon, 8 Dec 2008, Jims Parambus Account wrote: > You're not alone in remembering those early "superanimation" > days. I have a BBC video collection of Supercar. Anyone > want to make a simpit, could be interesting? > Looks like there's a model of it here for MSFS !! http://www.aiai.ed.ac.uk/~bat/GA/supercar.html -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Mon Dec 8 18:53:46 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 02:53:46 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) In-Reply-To: <002f01c95955$b02a8a80$0416a8c0@RITASYS1> Message-ID: On Mon, 8 Dec 2008, Jims Parambus Account wrote: > Or how about the nose module of Fireball XL5, or > even Thunderbird One??? > > Geez, I think the brain has gone. > We could install gene wearing a trash can as robbie the robot :-) -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Mon Dec 8 19:04:40 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 03:04:40 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] My Project ... Message-ID: I'm being bullied into putting some stuff up on the fancy new simpits website but seems there are tech issues both here in the uk and over there in gene-land. So, for now - here's a pic of my current project. Like gene's, it's a self-assembly job ;-) http://wv838.com/new-project.jpg Roy. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From lestatandakasha at msn.com Mon Dec 8 18:05:13 2008 From: lestatandakasha at msn.com (Jamie) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 02:05:13 -0000 Subject: [simpits-tech] teamspeak In-Reply-To: <457302.94938.qm@web111512.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <457302.94938.qm@web111512.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I use a simple little program called JoyToKey its very easy - all you do is assign a button on your joystick and tell joytokey which keyboard button it represents. It can be downloaded for free at - http://www.electracode.com/4/joy2key/JoyToKey%20English%20Version.htm there you go - my first helpful answer jamie From: Justin Messenger Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 1:10 AM To: Simpits Tech Subject: [simpits-tech] teamspeak It appears to me that it is not possible to use joystick buttons to activate the push to talk function. Have any of you been able to use your joystick (Or in my case a Couger Thrustmaster throttle) to run the PTT? If cannot figure out a way to do this then teamspeak is useless with the throttle buttons. Justin -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081209/29ba0787/attachment.html From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Mon Dec 8 19:11:56 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 03:11:56 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Xmas Present for Roy. Message-ID: If anyone is feeling generous... Wouldn't you just LOVE this on your desk!? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Gerry-Anderson-supercar-wood-model-supercar-model_W0QQitemZ250337748087QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_ToysGames_ActionFigures_ActionFigures_JN?hash=item250337748087&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1301%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318 -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Dec 8 19:38:56 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 19:38:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] teamspeak In-Reply-To: <457302.94938.qm@web111512.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <457302.94938.qm@web111512.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 8 Dec 2008, Justin Messenger wrote: > It appears to me that it is not possible to use?joystick buttons to > activate the?push to talk ?function. Have any of you been able to use > your joystick?(Or in my case?a?Couger Thrustmaster throttle)??to run the > PTT? > ? Justin, have you tried to use the Cougar configuration utility to send a keystroke on a button press? I'm pretty sure you can do that. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Dec 8 19:41:37 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 19:41:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 9 Dec 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > On Mon, 8 Dec 2008, Jims Parambus Account wrote: > >> Or how about the nose module of Fireball XL5, or >> even Thunderbird One??? >> >> Geez, I think the brain has gone. >> > > We could install gene wearing a trash can as robbie the robot :-) > ...or we could stuff roy into a Dalek can and hit "puree". :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Dec 8 19:46:14 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 19:46:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] My Project ... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > I'm being bullied into putting some stuff up on the fancy new simpits > website but seems there are tech issues both here in the uk and over there > in gene-land. > > So, for now - here's a pic of my current project. Like gene's, it's a > self-assembly job ;-) > > http://wv838.com/new-project.jpg > Are those Comet yokes?! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Dec 8 19:47:41 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 19:47:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Xmas Present for Roy. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > > If anyone is feeling generous... Wouldn't you just LOVE this on your > desk!? > > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Gerry-Anderson-supercar-wood-model-supercar-model_W0QQitemZ250337748087QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_ToysGames_ActionFigures_ActionFigures_JN?hash=item250337748087&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1301%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318 > That's pretty neat. If I can find one carved out of coal, it's yours. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From sean.g at paradise.net.nz Tue Dec 9 02:48:18 2008 From: sean.g at paradise.net.nz (Sean Galbraith) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 23:48:18 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] My Project ... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0KBL006T7VCGUV20@smtp5.clear.net.nz> At 04:46 p.m. 9/12/2008, you wrote: > > I'm being bullied into putting some stuff up on the fancy new simpits > > website but seems there are tech issues both here in the uk and over there > > in gene-land. > > > > So, for now - here's a pic of my current project. Like gene's, it's a > > self-assembly job ;-) > > > > http://wv838.com/new-project.jpg > > >Are those Comet yokes?! I'd go HS125 or some derivative thereof........ I think Comet yokes are made from pure unrefined unobtanium.. SeanG From sean.g at paradise.net.nz Tue Dec 9 02:49:42 2008 From: sean.g at paradise.net.nz (Sean Galbraith) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 23:49:42 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] My Project ... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0KBL003QLVESBV00@smtp4.clear.net.nz> >I'm being bullied into putting some stuff up on the fancy new simpits >website but seems there are tech issues both here in the uk and over there >in gene-land. Bullying? Here? No! >So, for now - here's a pic of my current project. Like gene's, it's a >self-assembly job ;-) > >http://wv838.com/new-project.jpg That *is* a nice collection, the term "some assembly required" jumps to mind ;-) SeanG From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Tue Dec 9 05:48:06 2008 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 05:48:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] teamspeak In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <598570.46699.qm@web111506.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Now that looks like a sweet little program! I will give it a try! Justin ? ? Monday, December 8, 2008 8:05 PM From: "Jamie" To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" I use a simple little program called JoyToKey its very easy - all you do is assign a button on your joystick and tell joytokey which keyboard button it represents. ? It can be downloaded for free at - http://www.electracode.com/4/joy2key/JoyToKey%20English%20Version.htm ? there you go - my first helpful answer ? jamie ? From: Justin Messenger Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 1:10 AM To: Simpits Tech Subject: [simpits-tech] teamspeak It appears to me that it is not possible to use?joystick buttons to activate the?push to talk ?function. Have any of you been able to use your joystick?(Or in my case?a?Couger Thrustmaster throttle)??to run the PTT? ? If cannot figure out a way to do this then teamspeak is useless with the throttle buttons. ? Justin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081209/9fa33093/attachment.html From rd at ns.sympatico.ca Tue Dec 9 06:16:32 2008 From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 10:16:32 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] teamspeak References: <598570.46699.qm@web111506.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003d01c95a08$bce1e990$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> Er ... Ah .... Doesn't this sort of completely eliminate the need for a hagstrom or something. Joystick buttons are afterall just switches. A fully software driven emulator? I gotta try this one. Thanks Jamie. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: Justin Messenger To: simpits-tech at simpits.org Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] teamspeak Now that looks like a sweet little program! I will give it a try! Justin Monday, December 8, 2008 8:05 PM From: "Jamie" To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" I use a simple little program called JoyToKey its very easy - all you do is assign a button on your joystick and tell joytokey which keyboard button it represents. It can be downloaded for free at - http://www.electracode.com/4/joy2key/JoyToKey%20English%20Version.htm there you go - my first helpful answer jamie From: Justin Messenger Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 1:10 AM To: Simpits Tech Subject: [simpits-tech] teamspeak It appears to me that it is not possible to use joystick buttons to activate the push to talk function. Have any of you been able to use your joystick (Or in my case a Couger Thrustmaster throttle) to run the PTT? If cannot figure out a way to do this then teamspeak is useless with the throttle buttons. Justin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081209/18050583/attachment-0001.html From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Tue Dec 9 07:26:25 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 15:26:25 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Using Pots for position sensing (part 2) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 8 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > > > > We could install gene wearing a trash can as robbie the robot :-) > > > ...or we could stuff roy into a Dalek can and hit "puree". > Ewww... -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Tue Dec 9 07:27:00 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 15:27:00 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] My Project ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 8 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > > So, for now - here's a pic of my current project. Like gene's, it's a > > self-assembly job ;-) > > > > http://wv838.com/new-project.jpg > > > Are those Comet yokes?! Nup.. HS125 -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Tue Dec 9 07:28:15 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 15:28:15 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] My Project ... In-Reply-To: <0KBL006T7VCGUV20@smtp5.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: On Tue, 9 Dec 2008, Sean Galbraith wrote: > >Are those Comet yokes?! > > I'd go HS125 or some derivative thereof........ I think Comet yokes > are made from pure unrefined unobtanium.. I think our Britannia uses the same yokes as the Comet. Sadly, until my new motherboard arrives, I can't access my pics :-( -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From adm.design at verizon.net Tue Dec 9 06:45:26 2008 From: adm.design at verizon.net (Alan D. Mazurka) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 09:45:26 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Xmas Present for Roy. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0KBM00G1Q6BVZFB0@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> bah. phillipine mahogany = unfinished interiors. here's something the wife got for me a few years back. probably from some japanese source: http://picasaweb.google.com/MEldenSlick/Supercar?authkey=3QiQplG9EOU#5277800971914766562 - adm - At 10:11 PM 12/8/2008, you wrote: >If anyone is feeling generous... Wouldn't you just LOVE this on your >desk!? > >http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Gerry-Anderson-supercar-wood-model-supercar-model_W0QQitemZ250337748087QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_ToysGames_ActionFigures_ActionFigures_JN?hash=item250337748087&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1301%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318 > > > > >-- > >Roy Coates. >Dept of Engineering. >Liverpool University. >E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk >Tel: 0151 794 4862 >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >_______________________________________________ >Simpits-tech mailing list >Simpits-tech at simpits.org >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the >above page. Thanks! ---------- Alan D. Mazurka adm.design at verizon.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081209/5b7ba299/attachment.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Dec 9 06:51:32 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 06:51:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] My Project ... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 9 Dec 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > On Mon, 8 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >>> So, for now - here's a pic of my current project. Like gene's, it's a >>> self-assembly job ;-) >>> >>> http://wv838.com/new-project.jpg >>> >> Are those Comet yokes?! > > > Nup.. HS125 > Ahh, neat. That'll be a fun project for you. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Dec 9 06:53:12 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 06:53:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] My Project ... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 9 Dec 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > On Tue, 9 Dec 2008, Sean Galbraith wrote: > >>> Are those Comet yokes?! >> >> I'd go HS125 or some derivative thereof........ I think Comet yokes >> are made from pure unrefined unobtanium.. > > > I think our Britannia uses the same yokes as the Comet. Sadly, until my > new motherboard arrives, I can't access my pics :-( > Bummer. BTW, I found something slower than my crushed DSL connection. Booting my computer with a degraded RAID 5 array. It's been working at it for about 20 minutes so far and it's still at the main boot screen where it shows the little blue 3 segment progress bar... g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Tue Dec 9 18:54:24 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 02:54:24 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Comet Yoke Discussion.... Message-ID: here's a pic of our partly rebuilt Britannia cockpit which shows the "rams horn" style yoke as fitted to the comet and others. http://wv838.com/brit.jpg This was taken April 1st, 2007 (honest!) and the cockpit looks a bit better now. I'll post up-to-date pics when I can get onto my other PC if anyone is interested. Roy. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Dec 9 19:20:42 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 19:20:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Comet Yoke Discussion.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > here's a pic of our partly rebuilt Britannia cockpit which shows the "rams > horn" style yoke as fitted to the comet and others. > > http://wv838.com/brit.jpg > > This was taken April 1st, 2007 (honest!) and the cockpit looks a bit > better now. I'll post up-to-date pics when I can get onto my other PC if > anyone is interested. That's really cool Roy. Thanks for the pic. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From rd at ns.sympatico.ca Tue Dec 9 20:06:09 2008 From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 00:06:09 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] Comet Yoke Discussion.... References: Message-ID: <008901c95a7c$a1ff56c0$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> Geeese Awes ... You guys have all the damned fun! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Buckle" To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 11:20 PM Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Comet Yoke Discussion.... >> here's a pic of our partly rebuilt Britannia cockpit which shows the >> "rams >> horn" style yoke as fitted to the comet and others. >> >> http://wv838.com/brit.jpg >> >> This was taken April 1st, 2007 (honest!) and the cockpit looks a bit >> better now. I'll post up-to-date pics when I can get onto my other PC if >> anyone is interested. > > That's really cool Roy. Thanks for the pic. > > g. > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Wed Dec 10 07:23:42 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:23:42 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Comet Yoke Discussion.... In-Reply-To: <008901c95a7c$a1ff56c0$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> Message-ID: On Wed, 10 Dec 2008, Rick Davis wrote: > Geeese Awes ... > > You guys have all the damned fun! > Not really. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Wed Dec 10 07:25:31 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:25:31 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Xmas Present for Roy. In-Reply-To: <0KBM00G1Q6BVZFB0@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: On Tue, 9 Dec 2008, Alan D. Mazurka wrote: > here's something the wife got for me a few years back. probably from > some japanese source: > > http://picasaweb.google.com/MEldenSlick/Supercar?authkey=3QiQplG9EOU#5277800971914766562 Oh that just rocks !! I'm more than a little jealous of that ;-) -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Wed Dec 10 07:12:46 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:12:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Comet Yoke Discussion.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, 10 Dec 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > On Wed, 10 Dec 2008, Rick Davis wrote: > >> Geeese Awes ... >> >> You guys have all the damned fun! >> > > Not really. > Nope. It all sucks. We hate what we do. We're genetically engineered to do this crap day in, day out. *waves hand* These aren't the geeks you're looking for. g. :) -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Wed Dec 10 07:41:01 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:41:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] New pics... Message-ID: (this was posted around to a couple of forums as well) I finally had a chance to pull these off my camera last night... Opening the canopy... http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/misc/sizing_gene-3.png You just HAVE to wear a helmet? Use a lower seat. :D http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/misc/sizing_gene-1.png 'sup, dudes? http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/misc/sizing_gene-4.png Rob, my official sanity checker: http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/misc/sizing_rob-1.png Test fit of all the instrument panel components: http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/misc/instrument_panel_installed-1.png http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/misc/instrument_panel_installed-3.png http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/misc/instrument_panel_installed-4.png The view behind the panel. http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/misc/instrument_panel_installed-5.png I will be providing the CAD files for the instrument panels so you guys can design the panel exactly how you want it. I may also offer a panel cutting service using 1/8" tempered hardboard. The panel installation procedure is kind of odd. You need to put the forward panel support arch in place (not bolted down - you rest it against the forward face of the windscreen), then bend the panel a bit to get it into place, THEN you install the arch where it's supposed to go (5.50" ahead of the windscreen face) and then attach the panel to the arch and the upper portion of the left & right fuselage ribs. Questions? Comments? Rotten tomatoes? :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil Wed Dec 10 15:42:49 2008 From: bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil (Brian Sikkema) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:42:49 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] New pics... Message-ID: <6e8b1f0b9eb84cc0bfbcd3a1a8119bc0.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> Very cool, Gene. Looks much bigger with someone in it! Brian From geneb at deltasoft.com Wed Dec 10 15:49:33 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:49:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] New pics... In-Reply-To: <6e8b1f0b9eb84cc0bfbcd3a1a8119bc0.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> References: <6e8b1f0b9eb84cc0bfbcd3a1a8119bc0.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> Message-ID: On Wed, 10 Dec 2008, Brian Sikkema wrote: > > Very cool, Gene. > > Looks much bigger with someone in it! > It's very "cozy" with the canopy closed. I was in it last night after I installed the instrument panel. I wanted to make sure the reach was correct (it was). I got to looking around with the canopy closed and it would suck hard to try to eyeball the guy on your six in the real thing. I'm kind of bothered with the installation process for the instrument panel. Right now you've got to bow it a lot to get it into place. I'm wondering if it wouldn't be a good idea to split the panel in half. It would make installation a LOT easier. The only problem would be the loss of about .75" along the panel centerline for the seam. (that's about the minimum space required for two rows of #6 screws and a .75" wide backing plate) More to think about I guess. I've got some new cutters coming in this week so I'll be able to experiment with the panels a bit. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From allendc at qwest.net Wed Dec 10 15:50:07 2008 From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:50:07 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] New pics... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20081210235014.16AC91A9866@mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net> Nice job Gene, looks very nice! David www.737FlightSim.com From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Wed Dec 10 17:17:04 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 01:17:04 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] New pics... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 10 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > > Questions? Comments? Rotten tomatoes? :) > All looks great apart from the weird blue thing in image: http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/misc/sizing_gene-4.png Been a while since I saw pics of you'n'Rob - you are both getting older ;-) heh. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From allendc at qwest.net Wed Dec 10 16:17:33 2008 From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:17:33 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] New pics... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20081211001738.24A6B53BCE3@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net> Gene looks like an old airline pilot with his "readers" hanging from a string! David www.737FlightSim.com From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Wed Dec 10 17:17:58 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 01:17:58 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] New pics... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 10 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > I'm kind of bothered with the installation process for the instrument > panel. Right now you've got to bow it a lot to get it into place. I'm > wondering if it wouldn't be a good idea to split the panel in half. It > would make installation a LOT easier. The only problem would be the loss > of about .75" along the panel centerline for the seam. (that's about the > minimum space required for two rows of #6 screws and a .75" wide backing > plate) > > More to think about I guess. I've got some new cutters coming in this > week so I'll be able to experiment with the panels a bit. For anyone opting for an LCD panel to draw instruments, bowing the panel is a bit of a no-no !! Just food for thought. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Wed Dec 10 17:47:43 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:47:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] New pics... In-Reply-To: <20081210235014.16AC91A9866@mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net> References: <20081210235014.16AC91A9866@mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 10 Dec 2008, David C. Allen wrote: > Nice job Gene, looks very nice! > Thanks David. I couldn't have done it without your valuable assistance with Inventor. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Wed Dec 10 17:49:28 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:49:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] [x-plane-tech] Re: New pics... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 11 Dec 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > On Wed, 10 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >> >> Questions? Comments? Rotten tomatoes? :) >> > > All looks great apart from the weird blue thing in image: > http://www.geneb.org/pitkit/misc/sizing_gene-4.png > > Been a while since I saw pics of you'n'Rob - you are both getting older > ;-) > > That's some great detective work there Lou. *facepalm* Beware, I now have a Zombie Petunia I can unleash upon you! :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Wed Dec 10 17:50:07 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:50:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] New pics... In-Reply-To: <20081211001738.24A6B53BCE3@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net> References: <20081211001738.24A6B53BCE3@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 10 Dec 2008, David C. Allen wrote: > Gene looks like an old airline pilot with his "readers" hanging from a string! > Actually, those are my safety glasses. My readers don't have a string. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Wed Dec 10 17:51:09 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:51:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] New pics... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 11 Dec 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > On Wed, 10 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >> I'm kind of bothered with the installation process for the instrument >> panel. Right now you've got to bow it a lot to get it into place. I'm >> wondering if it wouldn't be a good idea to split the panel in half. It >> would make installation a LOT easier. The only problem would be the loss >> of about .75" along the panel centerline for the seam. (that's about the >> minimum space required for two rows of #6 screws and a .75" wide backing >> plate) >> >> More to think about I guess. I've got some new cutters coming in this >> week so I'll be able to experiment with the panels a bit. > > > For anyone opting for an LCD panel to draw instruments, bowing the panel > is a bit of a no-no !! > The panel is only bowed to install it. Once installed it's nice and flat. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From allendc at qwest.net Wed Dec 10 17:56:19 2008 From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:56:19 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] New pics... In-Reply-To: References: <6e8b1f0b9eb84cc0bfbcd3a1a8119bc0.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> Message-ID: <20081211015623.B0295627919@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net> Why not make a instrument panel "Mount" which holds the instrument the instrument panel. The actual instrument panel would be smaller, and would attach to "instrument panel mount" with vibration damping, (screw and spring). I know in the P51 the instrument panel is mounted this way using vibration damping. David www.737FlightSim.com From allendc at qwest.net Wed Dec 10 17:58:57 2008 From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:58:57 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] New pics... In-Reply-To: References: <20081211001738.24A6B53BCE3@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: <20081211015902.600F522DC5D@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> Readers / Safety glasses the "look is still the same" but I can now call you the "Old Shop Teacher" from middle school! LOL David www.737FlightSim.com From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Wed Dec 10 18:20:43 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 02:20:43 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] New pics... In-Reply-To: <20081211001738.24A6B53BCE3@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 10 Dec 2008, David C. Allen wrote: > Gene looks like an old airline pilot with his "readers" hanging from a string! > I can't say much... I had to put mine on to look at the pics !! I can't say much about the greying beards either... bah... and gene has more hair than I do! Time for a glass of Kentucky magic and a nap I think. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Wed Dec 10 18:11:20 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:11:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] New pics... In-Reply-To: <20081211015623.B0295627919@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net> References: <6e8b1f0b9eb84cc0bfbcd3a1a8119bc0.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> <20081211015623.B0295627919@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 10 Dec 2008, David C. Allen wrote: > Why not make a instrument panel "Mount" which holds the instrument > the instrument panel. The actual instrument panel would be smaller, > and would attach to "instrument panel mount" with vibration damping, > (screw and spring). I know in the P51 the instrument panel is mounted > this way using vibration damping. Minus the damping feature, that's what I'm doing now. There is an instrument panel support arch that is attached to the bottom of the windscreen frame. The instrument panel attaches to this across the top arc of the panel and attaches to the left & right interior ribs at the bottom edges of the panel. My concern is the amount of bowing you need to put into the panel to get inserted where it needs to go. I can prevent that by splitting the panel in two vertically. I should also add a support part along the bottom edge of the panel made from 3/4" extruded angle material. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Wed Dec 10 18:12:04 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:12:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] New pics... In-Reply-To: <20081211015902.600F522DC5D@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> References: <20081211001738.24A6B53BCE3@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net> <20081211015902.600F522DC5D@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 10 Dec 2008, David C. Allen wrote: > Readers / Safety glasses the "look is still the same" but I can now > call you the "Old Shop Teacher" from middle school! LOL > With the exception that I'm not missing any fingers or parts of fingers. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Thu Dec 11 10:26:42 2008 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:26:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] USB Sound cards Message-ID: <559591.17003.qm@web111501.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I noticed these ?sound cards on Ebay. Anyone?played with these?? I wonder if multiple units can be used to route certain software sounds through separate speakers. http://cgi.ebay.com/5-1CH-USB-2-0-3D-Audio-Sound-Card-Adapter-Headphone-MIC_W0QQitemZ360097364851QQihZ023QQcategoryZ74941QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem ? ? ? ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081211/22d1056c/attachment-0001.html From catalina299 at gmail.com Thu Dec 11 11:26:17 2008 From: catalina299 at gmail.com (William Segal) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:26:17 -0800 Subject: [simpits-tech] USB Sound cards In-Reply-To: <559591.17003.qm@web111501.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <559591.17003.qm@web111501.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3a0a6c680812111126x7c3b47c9v869276b6c54e7476@mail.gmail.com> unfortuneatly that supports only 5.1 which hit the streets way back 2004 the preffered system today is 7.1 . I had 5.1 in my Supermicro the support for it was not very good. Regards Bill **I noticeese sound cards on Ebay. Anyone played with these? I wonder if > multiple units can be used to route certain software sounds through separate > speakers. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/5-1CH-USB-2-0-3D-Audio-Sound-Card-Adapter-Headphone-MIC_W0QQitemZ360097364851QQihZ023QQcategoryZ74941QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > ** > ** > * * > > ** > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081211/f682e3d8/attachment.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Dec 11 11:55:14 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:55:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] USB Sound cards In-Reply-To: <559591.17003.qm@web111501.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <559591.17003.qm@web111501.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 11 Dec 2008, Justin Messenger wrote: > I noticed these ?sound cards on Ebay. Anyone?played with these?? I wonder > if multiple units can be used to route certain software sounds through > separate speakers. Justin, the problem you may run into is application support. You would have to have a program that could "know" about multiple sound output devices in order to make it work, but it's not an impossible task if you're writing the software yourself. g . -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Dec 11 12:03:30 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:03:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] USB Sound cards In-Reply-To: <3a0a6c680812111126x7c3b47c9v869276b6c54e7476@mail.gmail.com> References: <559591.17003.qm@web111501.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <3a0a6c680812111126x7c3b47c9v869276b6c54e7476@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 11 Dec 2008, William Segal wrote: > unfortuneatly that supports only 5.1 which hit the streets way back 2004 > the preffered system today is 7.1 . I had 5.1 in my Supermicro the > support for it was not very good. The device only has two connectors and unless they're both outputs it does NOT support 5.1. The 5.1 designation (to me anyway) means that it supports fore/aft left & right channels (4 speakers) and a center speaker or subwoofer. You can't do that with a single stereo plug. It states "enjoy the virtual 5.1 channel sound track" which boils down to marketing puffery. I think it would be quite useful to have to offload the voice comms on to, but I would'nt depend on it to deliver the same kind of performance like nearly any Creative Labs product. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From rd at ns.sympatico.ca Thu Dec 11 14:37:43 2008 From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:37:43 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] USB Sound cards References: <559591.17003.qm@web111501.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><3a0a6c680812111126x7c3b47c9v869276b6c54e7476@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <01b101c95be1$156b42d0$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> I still enjoy the 3.1 version: (Creative Labs Ensonique 128) A speaker on each side of the monitor and a woofer under the desk. Is X-Plane at the stage where it will sound as though the landing gear is beneath you or the prop in front or the wind on the side in surround sound? I doubt it. And I doubt it ever will be unless some kind soul takes it on. For free as usual of course. It's like the Austin Meyer Food Bank ain't it? Many thanks to all who have donated to the cause. R ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Buckle" To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] USB Sound cards > On Thu, 11 Dec 2008, William Segal wrote: > >> unfortuneatly that supports only 5.1 which hit the streets way back 2004 >> the preffered system today is 7.1 . I had 5.1 in my Supermicro the >> support for it was not very good. > > The device only has two connectors and unless they're both outputs it does > NOT support 5.1. The 5.1 designation (to me anyway) means that it > supports fore/aft left & right channels (4 speakers) and a center speaker > or subwoofer. You can't do that with a single stereo plug. > > It states "enjoy the virtual 5.1 channel sound track" which boils down to > marketing puffery. > > I think it would be quite useful to have to offload the voice comms on to, > but I would'nt depend on it to deliver the same kind of performance like > nearly any Creative Labs product. > > g. > > > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Thu Dec 11 16:38:09 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:38:09 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] USB Sound cards In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 11 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > marketing puffery. > Puffery ? HAR !!! -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From catalina299 at gmail.com Thu Dec 11 22:48:45 2008 From: catalina299 at gmail.com (William Segal) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:48:45 -0800 Subject: [simpits-tech] USB Sound cards In-Reply-To: <01b101c95be1$156b42d0$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> References: <559591.17003.qm@web111501.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <3a0a6c680812111126x7c3b47c9v869276b6c54e7476@mail.gmail.com> <01b101c95be1$156b42d0$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> Message-ID: <3a0a6c680812112248v2de0d4f1i3b1317c1f97eaa01@mail.gmail.com> yea Rick I hope the CD you sent me is not on 3.1 I mean you have all that fantastic editing so maybe it will above 3.1 please lord Regards Billy On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Rick Davis wrote: > I still enjoy the 3.1 version: (Creative Labs Ensonique 128) > > A speaker on each side of the monitor and a woofer under the desk. > > Is X-Plane at the stage where it will sound as though the landing gear is > beneath you or the prop in front or the wind on the side in surround sound? > > I doubt it. And I doubt it ever will be unless some kind soul takes it on. > For free as usual of course. It's like the Austin Meyer Food Bank ain't it? > > Many thanks to all who have donated to the cause. > > R > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gene Buckle" > To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:03 PM > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] USB Sound cards > > > > On Thu, 11 Dec 2008, William Segal wrote: > > > >> unfortuneatly that supports only 5.1 which hit the streets way back 2004 > >> the preffered system today is 7.1 . I had 5.1 in my Supermicro the > >> support for it was not very good. > > > > The device only has two connectors and unless they're both outputs it > does > > NOT support 5.1. The 5.1 designation (to me anyway) means that it > > supports fore/aft left & right channels (4 speakers) and a center speaker > > or subwoofer. You can't do that with a single stereo plug. > > > > It states "enjoy the virtual 5.1 channel sound track" which boils down to > > marketing puffery. > > > > I think it would be quite useful to have to offload the voice comms on > to, > > but I would'nt depend on it to deliver the same kind of performance like > > nearly any Creative Labs product. > > > > g. > > > > > > > > -- > > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Simpits-tech mailing list > > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > > page. Thanks! > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081211/e5f21e27/attachment.html From bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil Fri Dec 12 01:38:30 2008 From: bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil (Brian Sikkema) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 04:38:30 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] USB Sound cards Message-ID: <3ad6d6c2efa64a529052bc20e635069f.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> >I noticed these sound cards on Ebay. Anyone played with these? I wonder if multiple units can be >used to route certain software sounds through separate speakers. Poor boy's way of doing it, if you only have 2 different places to send the sounds to and have access to the sound files: Say you have cockpit environment sounds going through speaker set A, and other sounds going through the headset, or speaker B. Edit all of the sound files so that the sounds you want going through set A are faded entirely to the left, and sounds for set B and faded entirely to the right. After that, simply send the wires for the left channel exclusively to set A, and for the right channel to set B. Aside from editing the sound files, no software trickery required, and no more complicated to wire than just a regular sound setup. Downside of course being the loss of stereo or surround sound. But for some applications (mine included) there really isn't a need for it. Brian From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Fri Dec 12 06:49:05 2008 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 06:49:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] USB Sound cards In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <21253.42683.qm@web111501.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Here is where it might help me, with Teamspeak.? ? I am using real general aviation headsets in our sims. When the sound?comes from teamspeak to a sim I need it to not go through the simulator's main sounds system. However, It has to transmit from the sims main computer so that buttons on the throttle can be used to toggle the transmit function. I?have been using a laptop for sound input to the headsets to keep the sound separate from the?computer that runs the sims main sound. The USB sound card might allow me to ditch the laptop and run the sound through?the main comuter because you can select in Teamspeak where it transmits and receives sound. Sorry?if I didnt explain it well... Justin? ? ? Friday, December 12, 2008 3:38 AM From: "Brian Sikkema" To: simpits-tech at simpits.org >I noticed these? sound cards on Ebay. Anyone played with these?? I wonder if multiple units can be >used to route certain software sounds through separate speakers. Poor boy's way of doing it, if you only have 2 different places to send the sounds to and have access to the sound files: Say you have cockpit environment sounds going through speaker set A, and other sounds going through the headset, or speaker B. Edit all of the sound files so that the sounds you want going through set A are faded entirely to the left, and sounds for set B and faded entirely to the right. After that, simply send the wires for the left channel exclusively to set A, and for the right channel to set B. Aside from editing the sound files, no software trickery required, and no more complicated to wire than just a regular sound setup. Downside of course being the loss of stereo or surround sound. But for some applications (mine included) there really isn't a need for it. Brian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081212/c024e58c/attachment.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Dec 12 07:11:05 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:11:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] USB Sound cards In-Reply-To: <21253.42683.qm@web111501.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <21253.42683.qm@web111501.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 12 Dec 2008, Justin Messenger wrote: > Here is where it might help me, with Teamspeak.? > ? > I am using real general aviation headsets in our sims. When the > sound?comes from teamspeak to a sim I need it to not go through the > simulator's main sounds system. However, It has to transmit from the sims > main computer so that buttons on the throttle can be used to toggle the > transmit function. I?have been using a laptop for sound input to the > headsets to keep the sound separate from the?computer that runs the sims > main sound. The USB sound card might allow me to ditch the laptop and run > the sound through?the main comuter because you can select in Teamspeak > where it transmits and receives sound. Sorry?if I didnt explain it > well... Justin, that's *exactly* how you're supposed to do it. That little USB dongle is the perfect solution in this case. One thing I'd really love to see is a way to "aircraft-ize" the audio for the radio. Aircraft radios have a very distinct sound to them - some have a slight 400Hz hum in the audio and all of them seem to have the same kind of sharp PTT "click" to them. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Fri Dec 12 08:54:36 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:54:36 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] USB Sound cards In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 12 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > One thing I'd really love to see is a way to "aircraft-ize" the audio for > the radio. Aircraft radios have a very distinct sound to them - some have > a slight 400Hz hum in the audio and all of them seem to have the same kind > of sharp PTT "click" to them. Stop using screened cable and power everything off a cheap gasoline generator - you'll be half way there in no time :-) -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Dec 12 07:58:03 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:58:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] USB Sound cards In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, 12 Dec 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > On Fri, 12 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >> One thing I'd really love to see is a way to "aircraft-ize" the audio for >> the radio. Aircraft radios have a very distinct sound to them - some have >> a slight 400Hz hum in the audio and all of them seem to have the same kind >> of sharp PTT "click" to them. > > > Stop using screened cable and power everything off a cheap gasoline > generator - you'll be half way there in no time :-) Roy, how many times have I told you to quit huffing paint fumes? :) BTW, the "30 second load" of simpits.org should be gone - another UKian reports it seems to be ok now. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Fri Dec 12 09:16:05 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 17:16:05 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] USB Sound cards In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 12 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > > Stop using screened cable and power everything off a cheap gasoline > > generator - you'll be half way there in no time :-) > > Roy, how many times have I told you to quit huffing paint fumes? :) Awww c'mon... it's one of the very few pleasures I have left ! > BTW, the "30 second load" of simpits.org should be gone - another UKian > reports it seems to be ok now. ooh - ok, will take a look. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Dec 12 08:30:28 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:30:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] USB Sound cards In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, 12 Dec 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > On Fri, 12 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >>> Stop using screened cable and power everything off a cheap gasoline >>> generator - you'll be half way there in no time :-) >> >> Roy, how many times have I told you to quit huffing paint fumes? :) > > > Awww c'mon... it's one of the very few pleasures I have left ! > ...but you're surrounded by cool aircraft bits! > > >> BTW, the "30 second load" of simpits.org should be gone - another UKian >> reports it seems to be ok now. > > ooh - ok, will take a look. > tnx. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Fri Dec 12 09:51:09 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 17:51:09 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] USB Sound cards In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 12 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >> Roy, how many times have I told you to quit huffing paint fumes? :) > > > > Awww c'mon... it's one of the very few pleasures I have left ! > > > ...but you're surrounded by cool aircraft bits! People have this misconception that restoring old aircraft is a really cool thing to do. What they don't see are the hours rivetting, cleaning, and painting in freezing weather and getting covered in crap. Not to mention the skinned knuckles, aching back and unhappy wife! It's not all cool y'know. My fave project at the moment though is our 1963 bomb tractor. She came from USAF Burtonwood here in NW England and sports a straight-six Chrysler engine and bodywork that's never less than 0.5" thick. Top speed is measured in inches per hour but she'll climb up the side of a house :-) I can't wait for more time to lavish her with more TLC. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Dec 12 09:07:46 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:07:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] USB Sound cards In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >> ...but you're surrounded by cool aircraft bits! > > > People have this misconception that restoring old aircraft is a really > cool thing to do. What they don't see are the hours rivetting, cleaning, > and painting in freezing weather and getting covered in crap. Not to > mention the skinned knuckles, aching back and unhappy wife! > Well there is that... > It's not all cool y'know. > The payback comes when you're done. :) > My fave project at the moment though is our 1963 bomb tractor. She came > from USAF Burtonwood here in NW England and sports a straight-six Chrysler > engine and bodywork that's never less than 0.5" thick. Top speed is > measured in inches per hour but she'll climb up the side of a house :-) > > I can't wait for more time to lavish her with more TLC. What you need are some bombs. :) If you can find me some scaled drawings of the type that would be "appropriate" for that era, I'm sure I could draw up a set of plans for you. BTW, I hope you haven't trashed that big screen TV yet. I'm going to take some pics this weekend that illustrate the idea of re-purposing the screen assembly out of one of those things using a small projector. Rob and I did a set-up test to see how the windscreen and canopy clipped the view and it was just perfect. I can't wait to try a flight in that thing - it's going to be just f'ing awesome I think. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Fri Dec 12 10:28:58 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:28:58 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] USB Sound cards In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 12 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > > It's not all cool y'know. > > > The payback comes when you're done. :) Projects as big as the Britannia are never "done" !! > What you need are some bombs. :) If you can find me some scaled drawings > of the type that would be "appropriate" for that era, I'm sure I could > draw up a set of plans for you. I was offered a few 250lb bombs a while back - wish I'd got 'em now. > BTW, I hope you haven't trashed that big screen TV yet. I'm going to take > some pics this weekend that illustrate the idea of re-purposing the screen > assembly out of one of those things using a small projector. > > Rob and I did a set-up test to see how the windscreen and canopy clipped > the view and it was just perfect. I can't wait to try a flight in that > thing - it's going to be just f'ing awesome I think. :) Nup - still got it. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Dec 12 09:27:06 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:27:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] USB Sound cards In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, 12 Dec 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > On Fri, 12 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >>> It's not all cool y'know. >>> >> The payback comes when you're done. :) > > Projects as big as the Britannia are never "done" !! > Heheh. > >> What you need are some bombs. :) If you can find me some scaled drawings >> of the type that would be "appropriate" for that era, I'm sure I could >> draw up a set of plans for you. > > I was offered a few 250lb bombs a while back - wish I'd got 'em now. > Bummer... g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From lestatandakasha at msn.com Sat Dec 13 03:44:18 2008 From: lestatandakasha at msn.com (Jamie) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 11:44:18 -0000 Subject: [simpits-tech] USB Sound cards In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: not to mention the constant worry of "is this bit of old metal im sanding and drilling radioactive?" -------------------------------------------------- From: "Roy Coates" Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 5:51 PM To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] USB Sound cards > On Fri, 12 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >> >> Roy, how many times have I told you to quit huffing paint fumes? :) >> > >> > Awww c'mon... it's one of the very few pleasures I have left ! >> > >> ...but you're surrounded by cool aircraft bits! > > > People have this misconception that restoring old aircraft is a really > cool thing to do. What they don't see are the hours rivetting, cleaning, > and painting in freezing weather and getting covered in crap. Not to > mention the skinned knuckles, aching back and unhappy wife! > > It's not all cool y'know. > > My fave project at the moment though is our 1963 bomb tractor. She came > from USAF Burtonwood here in NW England and sports a straight-six Chrysler > engine and bodywork that's never less than 0.5" thick. Top speed is > measured in inches per hour but she'll climb up the side of a house :-) > > I can't wait for more time to lavish her with more TLC. > > -- > > Roy Coates. > Dept of Engineering. > Liverpool University. > E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk > Tel: 0151 794 4862 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs > meter. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > From ccrowley at mccrowley.com Sat Dec 13 06:51:38 2008 From: ccrowley at mccrowley.com (Chris Crowley) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 09:51:38 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] teamspeak In-Reply-To: <457302.94938.qm@web111512.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: never had a problem activating this. -----Original Message----- From: Justin Messenger [mailto:jjmessenger at yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 8:11 PM To: Simpits Tech Subject: [simpits-tech] teamspeak It appears to me that it is not possible to use joystick buttons to activate the push to talk function. Have any of you been able to use your joystick (Or in my case a Couger Thrustmaster throttle) to run the PTT? If cannot figure out a way to do this then teamspeak is useless with the throttle buttons. Justin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081213/17de24dd/attachment.html From echotech1452 at gmail.com Sat Dec 13 10:17:20 2008 From: echotech1452 at gmail.com (delor lauchang) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 13:17:20 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] USB Sound cards In-Reply-To: <559591.17003.qm@web111501.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <559591.17003.qm@web111501.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: i dont think it would do what you want. its just a virtual surround maker, not actually creating different channels that you can pipe on separate speakers, you need a preamp with multi channel mixer at least 8 channels to really separate whatever frequency sounds you would like to throw at what direction field or area. On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Justin Messenger wrote: > **I noticed these sound cards on Ebay. Anyone played with these? I > wonder if multiple units can be used to route certain software sounds > through separate speakers. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/5-1CH-USB-2-0-3D-Audio-Sound-Card-Adapter-Headphone-MIC_W0QQitemZ360097364851QQihZ023QQcategoryZ74941QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > ** > ** > * * > > ** > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081213/d6294399/attachment.html From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Sat Dec 13 11:37:45 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:37:45 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] USB Sound cards In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sat, 13 Dec 2008, Jamie wrote: > not to mention the constant worry of "is this bit of old metal im sanding > and drilling radioactive?" > Hey, don't knock it. that third arm comes in real handy ! -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Sun Dec 14 11:00:06 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:00:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] 1st flight... Message-ID: Rob just _had_ to see the cockpit up with the projector. So I made him fly it. *snickers* Rob's new airline is called Minniefats Weehawken Airlines, but you can pronounce it "Aaaaaaaaiiiiiiiii!!!!!!" :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Sun Dec 14 19:42:20 2008 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:42:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] roger dodger aviation Message-ID: <181013.8364.qm@web111515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Do any of you know about this guy? http://www.rogerdodger.net/index.html ? He is only 3 hours from me. I was just there last weekend but didnt know about them yet... ? ? ? ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081214/dde5ce6b/attachment-0001.html From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Mon Dec 15 06:32:39 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:32:39 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] 1st flight... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 14 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > Rob just _had_ to see the cockpit up with the projector. > > So I made him fly it. *snickers* > > Rob's new airline is called Minniefats Weehawken Airlines, but you can > pronounce it "Aaaaaaaaiiiiiiiii!!!!!!" And this was recorded for posterity.... ? -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Mon Dec 15 06:33:07 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:33:07 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] roger dodger aviation In-Reply-To: <181013.8364.qm@web111515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 14 Dec 2008, Justin Messenger wrote: > Do any of you know about this guy? > http://www.rogerdodger.net/index.html > ? > He is only 3 hours from me. I was just there last weekend but didnt know about them yet... That's a new one to me. Looks like fun folks. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. 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From now on, let them do it for you. By changing their information in UNYK.com, you address book will be automatically updated. By changing your information in UNYK.com, their address book will be automatically updated. It's so simple and it's free. Already 10 million users. Click here if you no longer wish to receive invitations from Cris Harrison to try UNYK! Click here if you no longer wish to receive invitations to try UNYK from your contacts! UNYK, the first smart address book that updates itself! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081215/a9c527ec/attachment.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Dec 15 08:55:07 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:55:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] [x-plane-tech] Re: 1st flight... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, 15 Dec 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > On Sun, 14 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >> Rob just _had_ to see the cockpit up with the projector. >> >> So I made him fly it. *snickers* >> >> Rob's new airline is called Minniefats Weehawken Airlines, but you can >> pronounce it "Aaaaaaaaiiiiiiiii!!!!!!" > > > And this was recorded for posterity.... ? > Didn't I post the YouTube link? g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Dec 15 09:04:28 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:04:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Personal invitation from Cris Harrison In-Reply-To: <20081215113807.-1887053822@unyk.com> References: <20081215113807.-1887053822@unyk.com> Message-ID: He's unsubscribed. Problem solved. Asshat. /me snarls g. On Mon, 15 Dec 2008, Cris Harrison wrote: > Hi, > > On 12/1/2008 1:26:05 PM, you were invited to join Cris Harrison's UNYK > address book so he/she would always have access to your contact info and > you to his/hers. > > To accept his/her request, Click here. > > > UNYK is a smart and simple way to manage your contacts so you never lose > anyone?s contact information again. > > No more worrying about your contacts' info. From now on, let them do it > for you. By changing their information in UNYK.com, you address book will > be automatically updated. By changing your information in UNYK.com, their > address book will be automatically updated. > > It?s so simple and it?s free? Already 10 million users. > Click here if you no longer wish to receive invitations from Cris > Harrison to try UNYK! > Click here if you no longer wish to receive invitations to try UNYK from > your contacts! > UNYK, the first smart address book that updates itself! > > -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Dec 15 09:05:41 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:05:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] missing video link... Message-ID: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI7DtL-hWK4 :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Mon Dec 15 10:17:58 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:17:58 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] [x-plane-tech] Re: 1st flight... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 15 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >> Rob just _had_ to see the cockpit up with the projector. > >> So I made him fly it. *snickers* > >> > > And this was recorded for posterity.... ? > > > Didn't I post the YouTube link? Nah. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Mon Dec 15 10:32:30 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:32:30 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] missing video link... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 15 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI7DtL-hWK4 > Hmm.. was that missing VIDEO link or just the missing link? :-) Rob may care to read this article... http://flighttraining.aopa.org/members/student_pilot/presolo/articles/475.cfm heh. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Mon Dec 15 10:12:21 2008 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:12:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] missing video link... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <142840.67987.qm@web111509.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Looks good! Was he flying MSFS? It looks like there is the? fightsim offset that I hate in MSFS. It positions you to the side like you are in a 747 captains chair. Using the projector with my F-4 the effect makes you feel like you have to fly a bit sideways down the runway to stay on the centerline and is REALLY annoying. Fixing that is on my "soon to do" list. ? I am still fabricating the frame to hold the projector for my Phantom's forward view.? Next year I want to try rear projection for side views.?Side views?should kick butt in the fun area and I see your new cockpit can be configured the same. ? Justin ------------------------------------------------------------ ? Forwarded Message: [simpits-tech] missing video link... ? Monday, December 15, 2008 11:05 AM From: "Gene Buckle" To: simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI7DtL-hWK4 :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081215/62f478c3/attachment.html From cyplesma at aol.com Mon Dec 15 10:24:32 2008 From: cyplesma at aol.com (cyplesma at aol.com) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:24:32 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] missing video link... In-Reply-To: <142840.67987.qm@web111509.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CB2CF9822B7D6B-224-19B@mblk-d24.sysops.aol.com> when you say side views whats the game plan to make that happen? -----Original Message----- From: Justin Messenger To: simpits-tech at simpits.org Sent: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 1:12 pm Subject: [simpits-tech] missing video link... Looks good! Was he flying MSFS? It looks like there is the? fightsim offset that I hate in MSFS. It positions you to the side like you are in a 747 captains chair. Using the projector with my F-4 the effect makes you feel like you have to fly a bit sideways down the runway to stay on the centerline and is REALLY annoying. Fixing that is on my "soon to do" list. ? I am still fabricating the frame to hold the projector for my Phantom's forward view.? Next year I want to try rear projection for side views.?Side views?should kick butt in the fun area and I see your new cockpit can be configured the same. ? Justin ------------------------------------------------------------ ? Forwarded Message: [simpits-tech] missing video link... ? Monday, December 15, 2008 11:05 AM From: "Gene Buckle" To: simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI7DtL-hWK4 :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081215/13f0df8d/attachment.html From pascal at pascal.org Fri Dec 12 09:16:21 2008 From: pascal at pascal.org (Freeman Pascal) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 10:16:21 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] USB Sound cards In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Dec 12, 2008, at 10:51 AM, Roy Coates wrote: > On Fri, 12 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >>>> Roy, how many times have I told you to quit huffing paint fumes? :) >>> >>> Awww c'mon... it's one of the very few pleasures I have left ! >>> >> ...but you're surrounded by cool aircraft bits! >> > > > People have this misconception that restoring old aircraft is a really > cool thing to do. What they don't see are the hours rivetting, > cleaning, > and painting in freezing weather and getting covered in crap. Not to > mention the skinned knuckles, aching back and unhappy wife! > > It's not all cool y'know. Roy I don't think you'll get much sympathy from this group. We all wish we could all be like you and Gene - hehe. -Freeman From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Dec 15 12:59:36 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:59:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] missing video link... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, 15 Dec 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > On Mon, 15 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI7DtL-hWK4 >> > > > Hmm.. was that missing VIDEO link or just the missing link? :-) > Hehe. To be fair, I'm going to teach him to fly when the Grob/Marchetti version is designed. > > Rob may care to read this article... > http://flighttraining.aopa.org/members/student_pilot/presolo/articles/475.cfm > The link requires you to be a member. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Dec 15 13:06:14 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:06:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] missing video link... In-Reply-To: <142840.67987.qm@web111509.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <142840.67987.qm@web111509.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 15 Dec 2008, Justin Messenger wrote: > Looks good! Was he flying MSFS? It looks like there is the? fightsim offset that > I hate in MSFS. It positions you to the side like you are in a 747 captains > chair. Using the projector with my F-4 the effect makes you feel like you have > to fly a bit sideways down the runway to stay on the centerline and is REALLY > annoying. Fixing that is on my "soon to do" list. > ? Yes, he was flying in MSFS 2004. It was the default scenery around Pierce County Airport (Thun Field). The viewpoint wasn't offset to the side, but it was very much too "high". The horizon line splits the screen in half and you get the distinct feeling you're about 2" off the runway in that configuration. I moved the projector down about a foot and that helped a lot, but we lost an equal amount at the top of the screen. I may take some time to adjust the viewpoint in the default Cessna 172 in MSFS to make it more compatible with the cockpit. Even without the windscreen, the horizion line is too high. > I am still fabricating the frame to hold the projector for my Phantom's forward > view.? Next year I want to try rear projection for side views.?Side views?should > kick butt in the fun area and I see your new cockpit can be configured the same. Because of how the canopy sides are made, you could just hang a pair of 22" 16:9 flat panels on there, no projector needed. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Dec 15 13:07:18 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:07:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] missing video link... In-Reply-To: <8CB2CF9822B7D6B-224-19B@mblk-d24.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CB2CF9822B7D6B-224-19B@mblk-d24.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 15 Dec 2008, cyplesma at aol.com wrote: > when you say side views whats the game plan to make that happen? > Were you talking to me or Justin? (please don't top-post) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Dec 15 13:09:04 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:09:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] USB Sound cards In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, 12 Dec 2008, Freeman Pascal wrote: > > > -Freeman > *memory crashes in* Freeman! Gah! I forgot I was going to make you a Cessna 172 panel out of 1/8" tempered hardboard! I'm *so* sorry! Do you still need it? g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From cyplesma at aol.com Mon Dec 15 14:09:24 2008 From: cyplesma at aol.com (cyplesma at aol.com) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:09:24 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] missing video link... In-Reply-To: References: <8CB2CF9822B7D6B-224-19B@mblk-d24.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CB2D18EC6A54A8-AB8-B0@webmail-md18.sysops.aol.com> > when you say side views whats the game plan to make that happen? > Were you talking to me or Justin? (please don't top-post) g. Justin actually. I haven't messed with MSFS at all but I believe it's just a configuration with MSFS. He was talking about a phantom sim I wasn't sure if MSFS has a phantoms in it. or is it one of the MS combat sims that have a phantom. myself I only have falcon 4.0 and allied forces, well I have Jet IV and jet V, but there isn't much one can do with those. -----Original Message----- From: Gene Buckle To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List Sent: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 4:07 pm Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] missing video link... On Mon, 15 Dec 2008, cyplesma at aol.com wrote: > when you say side views whats the game plan to make that happen? > Were you talking to me or Justin? (please don't top-post) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Mon Dec 15 16:18:22 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 00:18:22 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] missing video link... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 15 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > > Rob may care to read this article... > > http://flighttraining.aopa.org/members/student_pilot/presolo/articles/475.cfm > > > The link requires you to be a member. Oops. Join ? -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pascal at pascal.org Mon Dec 15 16:46:40 2008 From: pascal at pascal.org (Freeman P. Pascal IV) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:46:40 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] USB Sound cards In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1229388400.28158.6.camel@tsunami> On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 13:09 -0800, Gene Buckle wrote: > On Fri, 12 Dec 2008, Freeman Pascal wrote: > > > > > > > -Freeman > > > *memory crashes in* > > Freeman! Gah! I forgot I was going to make you a Cessna 172 panel out of > 1/8" tempered hardboard! I'm *so* sorry! Do you still need it? > > g. > Funny, I was thinking of that today - hehe. I was going to send you a note to see if you were still working on it. I figured you were busy. I got a crazy idea to prototype my Cessna cockpit using PVC after seeing how that guy from Rodger Dodger Aviation used it. Cheaper and easier to work with than half to one inch steel tubing. Lord knows I have used enough PVC and copper piping in making my satellite and HF ham antennas. -Freeman From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Dec 15 17:39:40 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:39:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] USB Sound cards In-Reply-To: <1229388400.28158.6.camel@tsunami> References: <1229388400.28158.6.camel@tsunami> Message-ID: >>> -Freeman >>> >> *memory crashes in* >> >> Freeman! Gah! I forgot I was going to make you a Cessna 172 panel out of >> 1/8" tempered hardboard! I'm *so* sorry! Do you still need it? >> >> g. >> > > Funny, I was thinking of that today - hehe. I was going to send you a > note to see if you were still working on it. I figured you were busy. > ..yeah, something like that. ;) > I got a crazy idea to prototype my Cessna cockpit using PVC after seeing > how that guy from Rodger Dodger Aviation used it. Cheaper and easier to > work with than half to one inch steel tubing. Lord knows I have used > enough PVC and copper piping in making my satellite and HF ham antennas. Hrm. I think the whole PVC thing falls into the "quaint" category. Nice enough for kiddy sims I suppose. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Mon Dec 15 17:59:45 2008 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:59:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] multiple views In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <691099.32322.qm@web111507.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> There are no Phantoms in MSFS but you can download more Phantoms for MSFS than?I can?shake a stick at (yes, that is a technical term). check out sites like flightsim.com for free aircraft downloads. as far as I know there is still not a mod to allow separate side views in Falcon. ? Justin ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ? mber 15, 2008 4:09 PM From: cyplesma at aol.com To: simpits-tech at simpits.org Justin actually. I haven't messed with MSFS at all but I believe it's just a configuration with MSFS. He was talking about a phantom sim I wasn't sure if MSFS has a phantoms in it. or is it one of the MS combat sims that have a phantom. myself I only have falcon 4.0 and allied forces, well I have Jet IV and jet V, but there isn't much one can do with those. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081215/ffa3b460/attachment.html From rhommel at mad.scientist.com Mon Dec 15 19:17:23 2008 From: rhommel at mad.scientist.com (Rob Hommel) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:17:23 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] shopping Message-ID: <20081216031723.7033A32675A@ws1-8.us4.outblaze.com> I found this today and it reminded me an awful lot of Gene and I out and why he hates me to say anything to shopkeepers. http://www.whatisdeepfried.com/2001/11/23/grocery-misconduct/ keep 'en flying Rob Hommel -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com From idekkers at gmail.com Mon Dec 15 23:23:18 2008 From: idekkers at gmail.com (Ido Dekkers) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:23:18 +0200 Subject: [simpits-tech] USB Sound cards In-Reply-To: References: <1229388400.28158.6.camel@tsunami> Message-ID: <39e5de8d0812152323g469f6f04weed094323bdae897@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 3:39 AM, Gene Buckle wrote: > >>> -Freeman > >>> > >> *memory crashes in* > >> > >> Freeman! Gah! I forgot I was going to make you a Cessna 172 panel out > of > >> 1/8" tempered hardboard! I'm *so* sorry! Do you still need it? > >> > >> g. > >> > > > > Funny, I was thinking of that today - hehe. I was going to send you a > > note to see if you were still working on it. I figured you were busy. > > > ..yeah, something like that. ;) > > I got a crazy idea to prototype my Cessna cockpit using PVC after seeing > > how that guy from Rodger Dodger Aviation used it. Cheaper and easier to > > work with than half to one inch steel tubing. Lord knows I have used > > enough PVC and copper piping in making my satellite and HF ham antennas. > > Hrm. I think the whole PVC thing falls into the "quaint" category. Nice > enough for kiddy sims I suppose. :) > > g. > > - > Hey Gene where do you get the dims for the 172? is there a cad file or something ? Ido -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081216/55e6c742/attachment.html From bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil Tue Dec 16 03:50:56 2008 From: bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil (Brian Sikkema) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 06:50:56 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] shopping Message-ID: > http://www.whatisdeepfried.com/2001/11/23/grocery-misconduct/ You mean all you gotta do to get one is hassle the lady at the checkout counter!?!?! *DOH* Brian From cyplesma at aol.com Tue Dec 16 06:47:14 2008 From: cyplesma at aol.com (cyplesma at aol.com) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:47:14 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] multiple views In-Reply-To: <691099.32322.qm@web111507.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CB2DA451F8ED12-1220-9D3@WEBMAIL-MB11.sysops.aol.com> There are no Phantoms in MSFS but you can download more Phantoms for MSFS than?I can?shake a stick at (yes, that is a technical term). check out sites like flightsim.com for free aircraft downloads. as far as I know there is still not a mod to allow separate side views in Falcon. ? Justin I haven't checked viperpits.org or flightsim.com lately I was hoping the guys who work on open falcon would take the lead on (an idea I had a year or two ago) building a separate app that could read the aircraft positioning data from falcon's shared memory locations ( I know this is doable) and be able to use the same scenry files and be able to configure a new camera angle from the aircraft's position and atitude data. personally I would love to do it myself, but I do have other things in life keeping me busy. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Justin Messenger To: simpits-tech at simpits.org Sent: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 8:59 pm Subject: [simpits-tech] multiple views There are no Phantoms in MSFS but you can download more Phantoms for MSFS than?I can?shake a stick at (yes, that is a technical term). check out sites like flightsim.com for free aircraft downloads. as far as I know there is still not a mod to allow separate side views in Falcon. ? Justin ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ? mber 15, 2008 4:09 PM From: cyplesma at aol.com To: simpits-tech at simpits.org Justin actually. I haven't messed with MSFS at all but I believe it's just a configuration with MSFS. He was talking about a phantom sim I wasn't sure if MSFS has a phantoms in it. or is it one of the MS combat sims that have a phantom. myself I only have falcon 4.0 and allied forces, well I have Jet IV and jet V, but there isn't much one can do with those. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081216/fffc2673/attachment.html From idekkers at gmail.com Tue Dec 16 08:05:38 2008 From: idekkers at gmail.com (Ido Dekkers) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:05:38 +0200 Subject: [simpits-tech] multiple views In-Reply-To: <8CB2DA451F8ED12-1220-9D3@WEBMAIL-MB11.sysops.aol.com> References: <691099.32322.qm@web111507.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <8CB2DA451F8ED12-1220-9D3@WEBMAIL-MB11.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <39e5de8d0812160805m7b6a05a2i1b26099750caab55@mail.gmail.com> j?^j?pz?x?CjwGP7Z???????????????+h???N??y?z?M?????s&??*.q??? ???f???????k??+ajrj{!jG??????rz?aj??j???x?j[^?g!y?(??"??%?G??(!???r?????y?????~?h?yhi????j?$??-?????-?Yg?????hjYh???j??z??z??????\?rn???"?z{\??$y???????(? +~X???"??&??^?"0j?h?)????+0??(?J'???}?\?|(?WmjG???^i?'jx?y?!i??y????(j ?)]?x??Z??^j?m??\??]???????+i?i???????Z????g???'??Z??fzj+?Zj????$??-?+"??nW????i?^???z?^???????'??????i?^??(????????jg?i??????kay??r????h?+b?v?u?b??^u?Z????v??"0??]?????h?????_n?Hv?Z??-????)??)????y?b? ?n?22)??m???q?0????!?????,r??m?TD?m???? ,?jb??+??b???j)?)???-y?j?Zr?????M References: <691099.32322.qm@web111507.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><8CB2DA451F8ED12-1220-9D3@WEBMAIL-MB11.sysops.aol.com> <39e5de8d0812160805m7b6a05a2i1b26099750caab55@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8CB2DB4BFD82490-898-211@WEBMAIL-MC12.sysops.aol.com> at least we have MFD and HUD data export to separate monitors Yes I have seen those, lightning did a great job on those. -----Original Message----- From: Ido Dekkers To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List Sent: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:05 am Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] multiple views at least we have MFD and HUD data export to separate monitors On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 4:47 PM, wrote: There are no Phantoms in MSFS but you can download more Phantoms for MSFS than?I can?shake a stick at (yes, that is a technical term). check out sites like flightsim.com for free aircraft downloads. as far as I know there is still not a mod to allow separate side views in Falcon. ? Justin I haven't checked viperpits.org or flightsim.com lately I was hoping the guys who work on open falcon would take the lead on (an idea I had a year or two ago) building a separate app that could read the aircraft positioning data from falcon's shared memory locations ( I know this is doable) and be able to use the same scenry files and be able to configure a new camera angle from the aircraft's position and atitude data. personally I would love to do it myself, but I do have other things in life keeping me busy. Mike _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081216/d097fe00/attachment.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Dec 16 08:55:05 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:55:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] shopping In-Reply-To: <20081216031723.7033A32675A@ws1-8.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20081216031723.7033A32675A@ws1-8.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 15 Dec 2008, Rob Hommel wrote: > I found this today and it reminded me an awful lot of Gene and I out and why he hates me to say anything to shopkeepers. > > > http://www.whatisdeepfried.com/2001/11/23/grocery-misconduct/ > Yep. You wander off too. It's worse than trying to keep track of a 2 year old. I WILL get you a shock collar with a remote control one of these days. *mumbles* "Where the hell is he off to now?" *pushes button* *hears yelp* "Ahh! There you are. Get over here, we're leaving. And no, don't talk to that person. You don't know where he's been." :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Dec 16 09:05:15 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:05:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Jay! Message-ID: Jay - I've lost your email address, can you reply privately to this? Got an air-core question. tnx. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Dec 16 09:06:15 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:06:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] USB Sound cards In-Reply-To: <39e5de8d0812152323g469f6f04weed094323bdae897@mail.gmail.com> References: <1229388400.28158.6.camel@tsunami> <39e5de8d0812152323g469f6f04weed094323bdae897@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > > Hey Gene > where do you get the dims for the 172? is there a cad file or something ? > Freeman dug up some CAD drawings of the panel for me. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From idekkers at gmail.com Tue Dec 16 09:36:33 2008 From: idekkers at gmail.com (Ido Dekkers) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:36:33 +0200 Subject: [simpits-tech] USB Sound cards In-Reply-To: References: <1229388400.28158.6.camel@tsunami> <39e5de8d0812152323g469f6f04weed094323bdae897@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <39e5de8d0812160936x5aacd978s9e31f3aefdafe4ee@mail.gmail.com> are they sharable ? On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 7:06 PM, Gene Buckle wrote: > > > > Hey Gene > > where do you get the dims for the 172? is there a cad file or something ? > > > Freeman dug up some CAD drawings of the panel for me. > > g. > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Tue Dec 16 10:21:39 2008 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 10:21:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Themed Entertainment Association Awards Message-ID: <944673.82456.qm@web111505.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> The Air Force One simulator that we put together for the Reagan Library's Air Force One Discovery Center must be popular. Our team, The Kansas Air Force One project, is to be listed on the award?presented to?the Discover Center!? The Reagan people contacted us last night to let us know that invitations to the Awards Gala will be in the mail :) Who knew playing with simulators could be so much fun! ? Justin Themed Entertainment Association? Announces 15th Annual Thea Awards Recipients ? Orlando, Florida Nov. 18, 2008 ? ?The prestigious Thea Awards recognize and honor excellence in the creation of outstanding visitor experiences, attractions, exhibits and places,? said Themed Entertainment Association (TEA) President Nick Farmer of Farmer Attraction Development, Leicester, UK. ?Truly international in their recognition of outstanding productions, the Thea Awards focus international attention on innovation within the Themed Entertainment and Experience Design Industry.? The Awards will be formally presented March 7, 2009 at the 15th Annual Thea Awards Gala sponsored by Economics Research Associates, a lavish, black-tie dinner event at the Disneyland Hotel in Anaheim, CA. ? . The Thea Awards Nominating Committee evaluated more than 120 nominations in order to recommend the current slate of 17 Thea recipients, with final approval by the TEA International Board of Directors. ? Recipients ? 15th Annual Thea Awards Thea Lifetime Achievement Award: ?Robert L. Ward Thea Classic Award: EPCOT, Walt Disney World, Orlando, FL Thea Awards for Outstanding Achievement (AOA) Attraction: The Simpsons Ride, Universal Studios Hollywood CA & Orlando, FL Attraction Limited Budget: BeWILDerwood, Norwich, Norfolk, UK Attraction Limited Budget: The Forgotten Mine, Molenheide, Belgium Museum: The Newseum, Washington DC, USA Museum: National Museum of the Marine Corps, Quantico, VA, USA Museum Exhibit: Operation Spy, International Spy Museum, Washington DC, USA Museum Exhibit, Limited Budget: Forces of Nature, Arizona Science Center, Phoenix AZ, USA Learning Experience: Air Force One Discovery Center, Ronald Reagan Presidential Library & Museum, Simi Valley CA, USA Technical: Muppet Mobile Lab, Hong Kong Disneyland, China Science Center: Audubon Insectarium, New Orleans LA, USA New Theme Park Land: Jungala, Busch Gardens, Tampa FL, USA Event Spectacular: 2008 Summer Olympics, Opening Ceremonies, Beijing, Chiina Live Show: Finding Nemo, The Musical, Walt Disney World, FL, USA Live Show: Legend of Mythica, Tokyo DisneySeas, Japan Casino Attraction: Tree of Prosperity, Wynn Macau, Macau, SAR, China ? LEARNING EXPERIENCE AWARD Goes to the Air Force One Discovery Center Ronald Reagan Presidential Library & Museum, Simi Valley CA, USA Students visiting a presidential library usually expect typical field-trip fare. They may well ask what does this have to do with me? ?But young visitors to the Air Force One Discovery Center find themselves plunged into extremely realistic replicas of the Oval Office, the White House Press Room, the Military Station Room and Air Force One. Students are cast as reporters, military leaders, advisors, or even the president.? Here each plays a role in responding to a rapidly unfolding crisis that seems all too real. The result is an innovative, involving and highly personal experience of presidential decision making that achieves a highly successful educational experience with the enthusiasm of compelling role playing entertainment. The kids are completely engaged. Even the teachers, parents and chaperones wish they could participate. The Air Force One Discovery Center sets a new immersive, involving standard for student activities at educational attractions everywhere. ? ? ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081216/87861d48/attachment-0001.html From pascal at pascal.org Tue Dec 16 10:32:18 2008 From: pascal at pascal.org (Freeman Pascal) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:32:18 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] USB Sound cards In-Reply-To: References: <1229388400.28158.6.camel@tsunami> <39e5de8d0812152323g469f6f04weed094323bdae897@mail.gmail.com> <39e5de8d0812160936x5aacd978s9e31f3aefdafe4ee@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7A625540-BFB0-4FB6-8AF0-3D73C3497675@pascal.org> On Dec 16, 2008, at 10:45 AM, Gene Buckle wrote: > On Tue, 16 Dec 2008, Ido Dekkers wrote: > >> are they sharable ? >> > > I dunno. Hey Freeman! Can I pass on those CAD drawings? :) > > g. > I don't see why not. I meant them to be shared. The original drawings came from a web site that said they could be shared. I can find the original site if you want to make appropriate attributions. The original drawing was meant to be one whole piece representing a complete full-size instrument panel. My drawings, derived from them, are the pilot position to just past the radio stack. I'm short of room here and I wanted my first pit to be a bit more modest. One day I'll have a converted or built from scratch C172 airframe, but not for a while. My drawings also inserted a piece between the instrument cluster and the switch panel. Since I was figuring on using LCDs for my initial attempt I needed to shift the yoke assembly down below the mounting of the LCD screens. I have some CAD mockups if anyone is interested. -Freeman From pascal at pascal.org Tue Dec 16 10:35:56 2008 From: pascal at pascal.org (Freeman Pascal) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:35:56 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] USB Sound cards In-Reply-To: <7A625540-BFB0-4FB6-8AF0-3D73C3497675@pascal.org> References: <1229388400.28158.6.camel@tsunami> <39e5de8d0812152323g469f6f04weed094323bdae897@mail.gmail.com> <39e5de8d0812160936x5aacd978s9e31f3aefdafe4ee@mail.gmail.com> <7A625540-BFB0-4FB6-8AF0-3D73C3497675@pascal.org> Message-ID: <557EB04F-2E05-464C-887E-FC582D0BCD7B@pascal.org> On Dec 16, 2008, at 11:32 AM, Freeman Pascal wrote: > > On Dec 16, 2008, at 10:45 AM, Gene Buckle wrote: > >> On Tue, 16 Dec 2008, Ido Dekkers wrote: >> >>> are they sharable ? >>> >> >> I dunno. Hey Freeman! Can I pass on those CAD drawings? :) >> >> g. >> > > I don't see why not. I meant them to be shared. The original > drawings came from a web site that said they could be shared. I can > find the original site if you want to make appropriate attributions. > > The original drawing was meant to be one whole piece representing a > complete full-size instrument panel. My drawings, derived from them, > are the pilot position to just past the radio stack. I'm short of > room here and I wanted my first pit to be a bit more modest. One day > I'll have a converted or built from scratch C172 airframe, but not for > a while. > > My drawings also inserted a piece between the instrument cluster and > the switch panel. Since I was figuring on using LCDs for my initial > attempt I needed to shift the yoke assembly down below the mounting of > the LCD screens. > > I have some CAD mockups if anyone is interested. > > > -Freeman The original drawings came from: http://mycessnasim.blogspot.com/2007/03/cessna-172-panels.html -Freeman From pascal at pascal.org Tue Dec 16 10:49:04 2008 From: pascal at pascal.org (Freeman Pascal) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:49:04 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] Themed Entertainment Association Awards In-Reply-To: <944673.82456.qm@web111505.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <944673.82456.qm@web111505.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <320C5218-00B4-40D0-9295-25764C9E157B@pascal.org> On Dec 16, 2008, at 11:21 AM, Justin Messenger wrote: > The Air Force One simulator that we put together for the Reagan > Library's Air Force One Discovery Center must be popular. Our team, > The Kansas Air Force One project, is to be listed on the award > presented to the Discover Center! The Reagan people contacted us > last night to let us know that invitations to the Awards Gala will > be in the mail :) Who knew playing with simulators could be so much > fun! > > Justin Woohoo!!! Congrats Justin. From the description of the Center it sounds like an interesting place to visit. The role playing will give the kids an experience they wouldn't get else where. -Freeman -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081216/3c3ccacc/attachment.html From idekkers at gmail.com Tue Dec 16 11:00:10 2008 From: idekkers at gmail.com (Ido Dekkers) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:00:10 +0200 Subject: [simpits-tech] USB Sound cards In-Reply-To: <557EB04F-2E05-464C-887E-FC582D0BCD7B@pascal.org> References: <1229388400.28158.6.camel@tsunami> <39e5de8d0812152323g469f6f04weed094323bdae897@mail.gmail.com> <39e5de8d0812160936x5aacd978s9e31f3aefdafe4ee@mail.gmail.com> <7A625540-BFB0-4FB6-8AF0-3D73C3497675@pascal.org> <557EB04F-2E05-464C-887E-FC582D0BCD7B@pascal.org> Message-ID: <39e5de8d0812161100t6a8a0439l54eb0da497640977@mail.gmail.com> thanks - that's great Ido On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Freeman Pascal wrote: > > On Dec 16, 2008, at 11:32 AM, Freeman Pascal wrote: > > > > > On Dec 16, 2008, at 10:45 AM, Gene Buckle wrote: > > > >> On Tue, 16 Dec 2008, Ido Dekkers wrote: > >> > >>> are they sharable ? > >>> > >> > >> I dunno. Hey Freeman! Can I pass on those CAD drawings? :) > >> > >> g. > >> > > > > I don't see why not. I meant them to be shared. The original > > drawings came from a web site that said they could be shared. I can > > find the original site if you want to make appropriate attributions. > > > > The original drawing was meant to be one whole piece representing a > > complete full-size instrument panel. My drawings, derived from them, > > are the pilot position to just past the radio stack. I'm short of > > room here and I wanted my first pit to be a bit more modest. One day > > I'll have a converted or built from scratch C172 airframe, but not for > > a while. > > > > My drawings also inserted a piece between the instrument cluster and > > the switch panel. Since I was figuring on using LCDs for my initial > > attempt I needed to shift the yoke assembly down below the mounting of > > the LCD screens. > > > > I have some CAD mockups if anyone is interested. > > > > > > -Freeman > > The original drawings came from: > > http://mycessnasim.blogspot.com/2007/03/cessna-172-panels.html > > > -Freeman > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081216/9a7c94f5/attachment.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Wed Dec 17 13:41:03 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:41:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] The plot thickens... Message-ID: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIniEsbqt1Q g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Thu Dec 18 07:24:08 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:24:08 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] The plot thickens... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 17 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIniEsbqt1Q > Can you play O's and X's against that thing? :-) -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Dec 18 06:52:46 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 06:52:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] The plot thickens... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 18 Dec 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > On Wed, 17 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIniEsbqt1Q >> > > > Can you play O's and X's against that thing? :-) > I dunno. Tell ya, what. Stop by some time and I'll strap you down to the spoilboard and chuck a 1/4" 2 flute down-shear cutter into the spindle and we'll find out. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Thu Dec 18 08:02:40 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:02:40 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] The plot thickens... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 18 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > > Can you play O's and X's against that thing? :-) > > > > I dunno. Tell ya, what. Stop by some time and I'll strap you down to the > spoilboard and chuck a 1/4" 2 flute down-shear cutter into the spindle and > we'll find out. :) I think that game is called "Screams and Shrieks" not "O's and X's" ;-) Can you shop-vac handle body parts? -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Dec 18 07:02:55 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 07:02:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] The plot thickens... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 18 Dec 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > On Thu, 18 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > >>> Can you play O's and X's against that thing? :-) >>> >> >> I dunno. Tell ya, what. Stop by some time and I'll strap you down to the >> spoilboard and chuck a 1/4" 2 flute down-shear cutter into the spindle and >> we'll find out. :) > > > I think that game is called "Screams and Shrieks" not "O's and X's" ;-) > > Can you shop-vac handle body parts? > I've got a pair of Fein Turbo IIIs (my little orange Daleks) that'll hold you to the table and a dust collector with a 4" feed line to clean up the mess. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Thu Dec 18 08:08:45 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:08:45 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] The plot thickens... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 18 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > > Can your shop-vac handle body parts? > > > I've got a pair of Fein Turbo IIIs (my little orange Daleks) that'll hold > you to the table and a dust collector with a 4" feed line to clean up the > mess. :) Wahay! Sounds like a party to me !! -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sean.g at paradise.net.nz Thu Dec 18 10:26:21 2008 From: sean.g at paradise.net.nz (Sean Galbraith) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 07:26:21 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] The plot thickens... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0KC30095T4K60B20@smtp3.clear.net.nz> At 10:41 a.m. 18/12/2008, you wrote: >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIniEsbqt1Q I didn't think the plot was all *that* thick, but hey it's all about perspective, I mean when you're as thick as me............. Oh and I think someone switched out your cutter for a marker pen, so I figure it's gonna take a wee while to cut through 1/4" ply. Ahem.... funny mood this morning, must close to Christmas or something, apologies and all that. SeanG Bah Humbug From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Dec 18 10:53:19 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 10:53:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] The plot thickens... In-Reply-To: <0KC30095T4K60B20@smtp3.clear.net.nz> References: <0KC30095T4K60B20@smtp3.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: On Fri, 19 Dec 2008, Sean Galbraith wrote: > At 10:41 a.m. 18/12/2008, you wrote: > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIniEsbqt1Q > > I didn't think the plot was all *that* thick, but hey it's all about > perspective, I mean when you're as thick as me............. > > Oh and I think someone switched out your cutter for a marker pen, so > I figure it's gonna take a wee while to cut through 1/4" ply. > Yes. The process will be long and *drawn out*....ahem. :) I finished the sheet layouts last night. Right now we're at five 36x84 sheets. I scrubbed all but a few of the hole dimensions from the plots - the tiny lettering just takes too long. I've got the next two weeks off, so we'll see if I can make my self-imposed deadline of the Dec 31 to get this all wrapped up. I've dropped the "jet" option for now - I don't have time to build a prototype of it to check the fit & finish of the wider components. There are a total of 30 different part shapes on the plans, some of which are for the optional windscreen/canopy version. I may make a couple of tiny design changes on the windscreen and canopy design, but the cockpit is "feature complete" as of this moment. Neat, eh? :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From cyplesma at aol.com Thu Dec 18 11:26:57 2008 From: cyplesma at aol.com (cyplesma at aol.com) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 14:26:57 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] The plot thickens... In-Reply-To: References: <0KC30095T4K60B20@smtp3.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: <8CB2F5DBA0C84B2-C50-467@webmail-dd05.sysops.aol.com> I finished the sheet layouts last night. Right now we're at five 36x84 sheets. I scrubbed all but a few of the hole dimensions from the plots - the tiny lettering just takes too long. maybe use an identifier for each hole size you use instead of printing the whole dimension at the hole. -----Original Message----- From: Gene Buckle To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List Sent: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 1:53 pm Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] The plot thickens... On Fri, 19 Dec 2008, Sean Galbraith wrote: > At 10:41 a.m. 18/12/2008, you wrote: > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIniEsbqt1Q > > I didn't think the plot was all *that* thick, but hey it's all about > perspective, I mean when you're as thick as me............. > > Oh and I think someone switched out your cutter for a marker pen, so > I figure it's gonna take a wee while to cut through 1/4" ply. > Yes. The process will be long and *drawn out*....ahem. :) I finished the sheet layouts last night. Right now we're at five 36x84 sheets. I scrubbed all but a few of the hole dimensions from the plots - the tiny lettering just takes too long. I've got the next two weeks off, so we'll see if I can make my self-imposed deadline of the Dec 31 to get this all wrapped up. I've dropped the "jet" option for now - I don't have time to build a prototype of it to check the fit & finish of the wider components. There are a total of 30 different part shapes on the plans, some of which are for the optional windscreen/canopy version. I may make a couple of tiny design changes on the windscreen and canopy design, but the cockpit is "feature complete" as of this moment. Neat, eh? :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081218/a476f2ee/attachment.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Dec 18 13:35:38 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 13:35:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] The plot thickens... In-Reply-To: <8CB2F5DBA0C84B2-C50-467@webmail-dd05.sysops.aol.com> References: <0KC30095T4K60B20@smtp3.clear.net.nz> <8CB2F5DBA0C84B2-C50-467@webmail-dd05.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 18 Dec 2008, cyplesma at aol.com wrote: > > I finished the sheet layouts last night. Right now we're at five 36x84 > > sheets. I scrubbed all but a few of the hole dimensions from the plots - > > the tiny lettering just takes too long. > > > > > maybe use an identifier for each hole size you use instead of printing > the whole dimension at the hole. > I'm just printing a single hole dimension for each part - for example the ribs have a number of 1/4" holes in them and I only show the dimension on one of them. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Fri Dec 19 15:42:46 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 23:42:46 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Steak for Dinner then ? Message-ID: http://www.depers.nl/opmerkelijk/261034/Piloot-schept-koe.html -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From bjones at pipecomp.com.au Fri Dec 19 14:44:33 2008 From: bjones at pipecomp.com.au (Ben Jones) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 07:44:33 +0900 Subject: [simpits-tech] Steak for Dinner then ? References: Message-ID: <002401c9622b$5cd4de60$3c00a8c0@BenLaptop> Ahh that's a classic, Its a real problem for me and other pilots who always land in strange paddocks. Ben West Oz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Coates" Subject: [simpits-tech] Steak for Dinner then ? > > > http://www.depers.nl/opmerkelijk/261034/Piloot-schept-koe.html > From lestatandakasha at msn.com Fri Dec 19 17:34:12 2008 From: lestatandakasha at msn.com (jamie) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 01:34:12 -0000 Subject: [simpits-tech] Steak for Dinner then ? In-Reply-To: <002401c9622b$5cd4de60$3c00a8c0@BenLaptop> References: <002401c9622b$5cd4de60$3c00a8c0@BenLaptop> Message-ID: The bit I love is that as he is "crashing" you can hear in his voice that he is really enjoying himself! -------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Jones" Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 10:44 PM To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Steak for Dinner then ? > Ahh that's a classic, Its a real problem for me and other pilots who > always > land in strange paddocks. > > Ben > West Oz > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roy Coates" > Subject: [simpits-tech] Steak for Dinner then ? > > >> >> >> http://www.depers.nl/opmerkelijk/261034/Piloot-schept-koe.html >> > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Dec 19 18:21:15 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 18:21:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Steak for Dinner then ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, 19 Dec 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > > > http://www.depers.nl/opmerkelijk/261034/Piloot-schept-koe.html > Cowabunga dude! :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From cyplesma at aol.com Sat Dec 20 09:54:19 2008 From: cyplesma at aol.com (cyplesma at aol.com) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 12:54:19 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Steak for Dinner then ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CB30E31DD315C5-126C-25A6@MBLK-M08.sysops.aol.com> > > > http://www.depers.nl/opmerkelijk/261034/Piloot-schept-koe.html > steak and a milk shake -----Original Message----- From: Gene Buckle To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List Sent: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 9:21 pm Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Steak for Dinner then ? On Fri, 19 Dec 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > > > http://www.depers.nl/opmerkelijk/261034/Piloot-schept-koe.html > Cowabunga dude! :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081220/bd8693b8/attachment.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Sun Dec 21 11:37:06 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:37:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Mystery acutator... Message-ID: I just saw video of this neat little gaming chair at http://www.d-box.com. Can anyone tell me what kind of actuator they're using? They appear to have about a 6" stroke and are very fast. I'm wondering if they're 100% electric or are some kind of pnumatic system. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From fliper56789 at yahoo.com Sun Dec 21 12:37:20 2008 From: fliper56789 at yahoo.com (Phil Enos) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:37:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] SIM PARTS FOR SALE In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <110041.20588.qm@web53402.mail.re2.yahoo.com> ?Hey Guys, I haven't been on here in a long while, but want to let you all know first before i list on eBay most all my Sim parts for sale, we have moved on to flying the real thing more and more and don't have time to tinker on my Sim project, ? What i have Most all Simkits gauges for a Cessna 172, (most still unassembled) the controller for same, mounted w/power supply, the simkits clock Very nice custom made 172 panel for the simkits gauges The first 172 prototype panel set that was made by flight deck solutions w/ monitor installed. 1-custom modded CH Yoke (usb) 1 stock CH Yoke (USB) 1 CH pro peddles 3 Proxima x-350 projectors near new less then 20 hrs use! 3 modded Nvida cards, ran from a networked master card 3 celing mounts for projectors 1 custom made garmin 530 unit that needs to be reworked, i have a custom made hardware board by Scott Fausel and custom software to interface it. (This was a project Jim Brown and i were working on) I had his prototype working great, really cool it was. misselaneous other things i will have to get a list together, like rotary encoders etc> ? ? I am looking for $1100.00 for everything + shipping If anyone is interested get back to me and i will take pics and get a detailed list of everything as i am suer i have missed a few things. Thanks Phil fliper56789 at yahoo.com ? ? ? ? ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081221/6e81f204/attachment.html From fliper56789 at yahoo.com Sun Dec 21 12:44:48 2008 From: fliper56789 at yahoo.com (Phil Enos) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:44:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] SIM PARTS FOR SALE In-Reply-To: <110041.20588.qm@web53402.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <257332.74018.qm@web53401.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Forgot to mention also 3 PCs also ? ?Take care and have a great day! -Phil ? --- On Sun, 12/21/08, Phil Enos wrote: From: Phil Enos Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] SIM PARTS FOR SALE To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" Date: Sunday, December 21, 2008, 3:37 PM ?Hey Guys, I haven't been on here in a long while, but want to let you all know first before i list on eBay most all my Sim parts for sale, we have moved on to flying the real thing more and more and don't have time to tinker on my Sim project, ? What i have Most all Simkits gauges for a Cessna 172, (most still unassembled) the controller for same, mounted w/power supply, the simkits clock Very nice custom made 172 panel for the simkits gauges The first 172 prototype panel set that was made by flight deck solutions w/ monitor installed. 1-custom modded CH Yoke (usb) 1 stock CH Yoke (USB) 1 CH pro peddles 3 Proxima x-350 projectors near new less then 20 hrs use! 3 modded Nvida cards, ran from a networked master card 3 celing mounts for projectors 1 custom made garmin 530 unit that needs to be reworked, i have a custom made hardware board by Scott Fausel and custom software to interface it. (This was a project Jim Brown and i were working on) I had his prototype working great, really cool it was. misselaneous other things i will have to get a list together, like rotary encoders etc> ? ? I am looking for $1100.00 for everything + shipping If anyone is interested get back to me and i will take pics and get a detailed list of everything as i am suer i have missed a few things. Thanks Phil fliper56789 at yahoo.com ? ? ? ? ? _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081221/f68e73f5/attachment.html From marcquintin at hotmail.com Sun Dec 21 17:02:11 2008 From: marcquintin at hotmail.com (Marc Quintin) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:02:11 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Mystery acutator... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Gene, from a friend that was at the PRI show in Orlando last week, they are electric. They move up and down 1.5". you can even feel cracks on the pavement on racing sim, and they give u 2G feel from what my friend was telling me about the show. He was there to show off a new visual system that I helped somewhat put together VCSIM Marc.. > Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:37:06 -0800> From: geneb at deltasoft.com> To: simpits-tech at simpits.org> Subject: [simpits-tech] Mystery acutator...> > I just saw video of this neat little gaming chair at http://www.d-box.com.> > Can anyone tell me what kind of actuator they're using? They appear to > have about a 6" stroke and are very fast. I'm wondering if they're 100% > electric or are some kind of pnumatic system.> > g.> > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007> http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.> > _______________________________________________> Simpits-tech mailing list> Simpits-tech at simpits.org> http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech> To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! _________________________________________________________________ Show them the way! Add maps and directions to your party invites. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/events.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081221/1f8b9642/attachment-0001.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Sun Dec 21 17:06:43 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:06:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Mystery acutator... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, 21 Dec 2008, Marc Quintin wrote: > Gene, from a friend that was at the? PRI ?show in Orlando last week, they > are electric. They move up and down 1.5". you can even feel cracks on the > pavement on racing sim, and they give u 2G feel from what my friend?was > telling me about the show.?He was there to show off a new visual > system?that I helped somewhat put together VCSIM Well a stroke that short would explain why it's so quick. Now to find the things. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Sun Dec 21 18:27:11 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 02:27:11 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Steak for Dinner then ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 19 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > On Fri, 19 Dec 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > > > > > http://www.depers.nl/opmerkelijk/261034/Piloot-schept-koe.html > > > > Cowabunga dude! *groan* -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From marcquintin at hotmail.com Sun Dec 21 17:24:26 2008 From: marcquintin at hotmail.com (Marc Quintin) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:24:26 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Mystery acutator... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Oops I meant VCSIMS, check out the visual, perfect match with D-DOX. D-BOX is a very simple design, it's the sofware to make it work that's complicated :) Marc..> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:06:43 -0800> From: geneb at deltasoft.com> To: simpits-tech at simpits.org> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Mystery acutator...> > On Sun, 21 Dec 2008, Marc Quintin wrote:> > > Gene, from a friend that was at the PRI show in Orlando last week, they> > are electric. They move up and down 1.5". you can even feel cracks on the> > pavement on racing sim, and they give u 2G feel from what my friend was> > telling me about the show. He was there to show off a new visual> > system that I helped somewhat put together VCSIM> > Well a stroke that short would explain why it's so quick. Now to find the > things. :)> > g.> > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007> http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. _________________________________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From marcquintin at hotmail.com Sun Dec 21 17:37:08 2008 From: marcquintin at hotmail.com (Marc Quintin) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:37:08 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Mystery acutator... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Roy, http://www.d-box.com/2008/video/CES2007.html Marc..> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 02:32:27 +0000> From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk> To: simpits-tech at simpits.org> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Mystery acutator...> > On Sun, 21 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote:> > > I just saw video of this neat little gaming chair at http://www.d-box.com.> >> > Can anyone tell me what kind of actuator they're using? They appear to> > have about a 6" stroke and are very fast. I'm wondering if they're 100%> > electric or are some kind of pnumatic system.> >> > > dude - where's the video ??> > > --> > Roy Coates.> Dept of Engineering.> Liverpool University.> E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk> Tel: 0151 794 4862> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------> Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter.> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------> > _______________________________________________> Simpits-tech mailing list> Simpits-tech at simpits.org> http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech> To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! _________________________________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks! >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081222/654d18a9/attachment.html From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Mon Dec 22 11:24:56 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:24:56 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Mystery acutator... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 21 Dec 2008, Marc Quintin wrote: > > Roy, http://www.d-box.com/2008/video/CES2007.html > Thanks Marc. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Mon Dec 22 10:35:54 2008 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:35:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Mystery acutator... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <846575.96741.qm@web111513.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Any idea what they cost? I could see this being effective for sudden deceleration, landing, and turbulence effects. Justin ? Sunday, December 21, 2008 7:06 PM From: "Gene Buckle" To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" On Sun, 21 Dec 2008, Marc Quintin wrote: > Gene, from a friend that was at the? PRI ?show in Orlando last week, they > are electric. They move up and down 1.5". you can even feel cracks on the > pavement on racing sim, and they give u 2G feel from what my friend?was > telling me about the show.?He was there to show off a new visual > system?that I helped somewhat put together VCSIM ? ? --- On Mon, 12/22/08, simpits-tech-request at simpits.org wrote: From: simpits-tech-request at simpits.org Subject: Simpits-tech Digest, Vol 64, Issue 30 To: simpits-tech at simpits.org Date: Monday, December 22, 2008, 11:18 AM Send Simpits-tech mailing list submissions to simpits-tech at simpits.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to simpits-tech-request at simpits.org You can reach the person managing the list at simpits-tech-owner at simpits.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Simpits-tech digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Mystery acutator... (Gene Buckle) 2. Re: Steak for Dinner then ? (Roy Coates) 3. Re: Mystery acutator... (Marc Quintin) 4. Re: Mystery acutator... (Roy Coates) 5. Re: Mystery acutator... (Marc Quintin) 6. USB sound card results.... (Justin Messenger) 7. Re: SIM PARTS FOR SALE (William Segal) On Sun, 21 Dec 2008, Marc Quintin wrote: > Gene, from a friend that was at the? PRI ?show in Orlando last week, they > are electric. They move up and down 1.5". you can even feel cracks on the > pavement on racing sim, and they give u 2G feel from what my friend?was > telling me about the show.?He was there to show off a new visual > system?that I helped somewhat put together VCSIM Well a stroke that short would explain why it's so quick. Now to find the things. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. On Fri, 19 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > On Fri, 19 Dec 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > > > > > http://www.depers.nl/opmerkelijk/261034/Piloot-schept-koe.html > > > > Cowabunga dude! *groan* -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #yiv269759236 .hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} #yiv269759236 { font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} Oops I meant VCSIMS, check out the visual, perfect match with D-DOX. ? D-BOX is a?very simple design, it's the sofware to make it work that's complicated :) ? Marc.. > Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:06:43 -0800 > From: geneb at deltasoft.com > To: simpits-tech at simpits.org > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Mystery acutator... > > On Sun, 21 Dec 2008, Marc Quintin wrote: > > > Gene, from a friend that was at the? PRI ?show in Orlando last week, they > > are electric. They move up and down 1.5". you can even feel cracks on the > > pavement on racing sim, and they give u 2G feel from what my friend?was > > telling me about the show.?He was there to show off a new visual > > system?that I helped somewhat put together VCSIM > > Well a stroke that short would explain why it's so quick. Now to find the > things. :) > > g. > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. Easily add maps and directions to your online party invites. Click to learn how. On Sun, 21 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > I just saw video of this neat little gaming chair at http://www.d-box.com. > > Can anyone tell me what kind of actuator they're using? They appear to > have about a 6" stroke and are very fast. I'm wondering if they're 100% > electric or are some kind of pnumatic system. > dude - where's the video ?? -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #yiv1379928135 .hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} #yiv1379928135 { font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} Roy, http://www.d-box.com/2008/video/CES2007.html ? Marc.. > Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 02:32:27 +0000 > From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk > To: simpits-tech at simpits.org > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Mystery acutator... > > On Sun, 21 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > > > I just saw video of this neat little gaming chair at http://www.d-box.com. > > > > Can anyone tell me what kind of actuator they're using? They appear to > > have about a 6" stroke and are very fast. I'm wondering if they're 100% > > electric or are some kind of pnumatic system. > > > > > dude - where's the video ?? > > > -- > > Roy Coates. > Dept of Engineering. > Liverpool University. > E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk > Tel: 0151 794 4862 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! Share your holiday memories for free with Windows LiveT Photos. Get started now. I tried the USB sound card and it works! XP installed the software and the computer automatically routed it's sound through the new card. No hassle for me at all (for a change).?In TeamSpeak2 I selected the origional Sound card for its imput and output source. Tada! Flight sim sounds went through the USB card to the main computer speakers and Teamspeak went through the main card to the headset. Or in our case, to the CD input and the recorder output on our real avaition intercom boxes. That way?we have?our aviation headsets connected to the computer for voice coms only. The End Justin What do you have left and what do want for it and be specific money to burn Regards Bill On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Phil Enos wrote: Forgot to mention also 3 PCs also ? ?Take care and have a great day! -Phil ? --- On Sun, 12/21/08, Phil Enos wrote: From: Phil Enos Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] SIM PARTS FOR SALE To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" Date: Sunday, December 21, 2008, 3:37 PM ?Hey Guys, I haven't been on here in a long while, but want to let you all know first before i list on eBay most all my Sim parts for sale, we have moved on to flying the real thing more and more and don't have time to tinker on my Sim project, ? What i have Most all Simkits gauges for a Cessna 172, (most still unassembled) the controller for same, mounted w/power supply, the simkits clock Very nice custom made 172 panel for the simkits gauges The first 172 prototype panel set that was made by flight deck solutions w/ monitor installed. 1-custom modded CH Yoke (usb) 1 stock CH Yoke (USB) 1 CH pro peddles 3 Proxima x-350 projectors near new less then 20 hrs use! 3 modded Nvida cards, ran from a networked master card 3 celing mounts for projectors 1 custom made garmin 530 unit that needs to be reworked, i have a custom made hardware board by Scott Fausel and custom software to interface it. (This was a project Jim Brown and i were working on) I had his prototype working great, really cool it was. misselaneous other things i will have to get a list together, like rotary encoders etc> ? ? I am looking for $1100.00 for everything + shipping If anyone is interested get back to me and i will take pics and get a detailed list of everything as i am suer i have missed a few things. Thanks Phil fliper56789 at yahoo.com ? ? ? ? ? _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. ?Thanks! _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I could see this being effective for sudden > deceleration, landing, and turbulence effects. > Justin > > Sunday, December 21, 2008 7:06 PM > > From: > "Gene Buckle" > > > To: > "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" > > On Sun, 21 Dec 2008, Marc Quintin wrote: > > > Gene, from a friend that was at the PRI show in Orlando last week, > they > > are electric. They move up and down 1.5". you can even feel cracks > on the > > pavement on racing sim, and they give u 2G feel from what my > friend was > > telling me about the show. He was there to show off a new visual > > system that I helped somewhat put together VCSIM > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 12/22/08, simpits-tech-request at simpits.org > wrote: > From: simpits-tech-request at simpits.org > > Subject: Simpits-tech Digest, Vol 64, Issue 30 > To: simpits-tech at simpits.org > Date: Monday, December 22, 2008, 11:18 AM > > Send Simpits-tech mailing list submissions to > simpits-tech at simpits.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > simpits-tech-request at simpits.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > simpits-tech-owner at simpits.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Simpits-tech digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Mystery acutator... (Gene Buckle) > 2. Re: Steak for Dinner then ? (Roy Coates) > 3. Re: Mystery acutator... (Marc Quintin) > 4. Re: Mystery acutator... (Roy Coates) > 5. Re: Mystery acutator... (Marc Quintin) > 6. USB sound card results.... (Justin Messenger) > 7. Re: SIM PARTS FOR SALE (William Segal) > On Sun, 21 Dec 2008, Marc Quintin wrote: > > > Gene, from a friend that was at the PRI show in Orlando last week, > they > > are electric. They move up and down 1.5". you can even feel cracks on > the > > pavement on racing sim, and they give u 2G feel from what my friend was > > telling me about the show. He was there to show off a new visual > > system that I helped somewhat put together VCSIM > > Well a stroke that short would explain why it's so quick. Now to find the > things. :) > > g. > > -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > On Fri, 19 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > > > On Fri, 19 Dec 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > > > > > > > > http://www.depers.nl/opmerkelijk/261034/Piloot-schept-koe.html > > > > > > > Cowabunga dude! > > > *groan* > > > > -- > > Roy Coates. > Dept of Engineering. > Liverpool University. > E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk > Tel: 0151 794 4862 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Oops I meant VCSIMS, check out the visual, perfect match with > D-DOX. > > D-BOX is a very simple design, it's the sofware to make it > work that's complicated :) > > Marc.. > > > Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:06:43 -0800 > > From: geneb at deltasoft.com > > To: simpits-tech at simpits.org > > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Mystery acutator... > > > > On Sun, 21 Dec 2008, Marc Quintin wrote: > > > > > Gene, from a friend that was at the PRI show in Orlando > last week, they > > > are electric. They move up and down 1.5". you can even > feel cracks on the > > > pavement on racing sim, and they give u 2G feel from what > my friend was > > > telling me about the show. He was there to show off a new > visual > > > system that I helped somewhat put together VCSIM > > > > Well a stroke that short would explain why it's so quick. > Now to find the > > things. :) > > > > g. > > > > -- > > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Easily add maps and directions to your online party invites. > Click to learn how. > On Sun, 21 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > > > I just saw video of this neat little gaming chair at http://www.d-box.com. > > > > Can anyone tell me what kind of actuator they're using? They appear > to > > have about a 6" stroke and are very fast. I'm wondering if > they're 100% > > electric or are some kind of pnumatic system. > > > > > dude - where's the video ?? > > > -- > > Roy Coates. > Dept of Engineering. > Liverpool University. > E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk > Tel: 0151 794 4862 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Roy, http://www.d-box.com/2008/video/CES2007.html > > Marc.. > > > Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 02:32:27 +0000 > > From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk > > To: simpits-tech at simpits.org > > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Mystery acutator... > > > > On Sun, 21 Dec 2008, Gene Buckle wrote: > > > > > I just saw video of this neat little gaming chair at > http://www.d-box.com. > > > > > > Can anyone tell me what kind of actuator they're using? > They appear to > > > have about a 6" stroke and are very fast. I'm wondering if > they're 100% > > > electric or are some kind of pnumatic system. > > > > > > > > > dude - where's the video ?? > > > > > > -- > > > > Roy Coates. > > Dept of Engineering. > > Liverpool University. > > E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk > > Tel: 0151 794 4862 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be > the Hobbs meter. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Simpits-tech mailing list > > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of > the above page. Thanks! > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Share your holiday memories for free with Windows LiveT > Photos. Get started now. > I tried the USB sound card and it works! XP installed the > software and the computer automatically routed it's sound > through the new card. No hassle for me at all (for a > change). In TeamSpeak2 I selected the origional Sound card for > its imput and output source. Tada! Flight sim sounds went > through the USB card to the main computer speakers and > Teamspeak went through the main card to the headset. Or in our > case, to the CD input and the recorder output on our real > avaition intercom boxes. That way we have our aviation > headsets connected to the computer for voice coms only. The > End > Justin > > > What do you have left and what do want for it and be specific > money to burn > Regards > > > Bill > > On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Phil Enos > wrote: > > Forgot to mention also 3 PCs also > > Take care and have a great day! > -Phil > > > > --- On Sun, 12/21/08, Phil Enos > wrote: > From: Phil Enos > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] SIM PARTS FOR SALE > To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" > > Date: Sunday, December 21, 2008, 3:37 PM > > > > > > Hey Guys, > I haven't been on here in a long while, but > want to let you all know first before i list > on eBay most all my Sim parts for sale, we > have moved on to flying the real thing more > and more and don't have time to tinker on my > Sim project, > > What i have > Most all Simkits gauges for a Cessna 172, > (most still unassembled) the controller for > same, mounted w/power supply, > the simkits clock > Very nice custom made 172 panel for the > simkits gauges > The first 172 prototype panel set that was > made by flight deck solutions w/ monitor > installed. > 1-custom modded CH Yoke (usb) > 1 stock CH Yoke (USB) > 1 CH pro peddles > 3 Proxima x-350 projectors near new less then > 20 hrs use! > 3 modded Nvida cards, ran from a networked > master card > 3 celing mounts for projectors > 1 custom made garmin 530 unit that needs to be > reworked, i have a custom made hardware board > by Scott Fausel and custom software to > interface it. (This was a project Jim Brown > and i were working on) I had his prototype > working great, really cool it was. > misselaneous other things i will have to get a > list together, like rotary encoders etc> > > > I am looking for $1100.00 for everything + > shipping > If anyone is interested get back to me and i > will take pics and get a detailed list of > everything as i am suer i have missed a few > things. > Thanks > Phil > fliper56789 at yahoo.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. > Thanks! > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the > bottom of the above page. Thanks! > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From fliper56789 at yahoo.com Mon Dec 22 18:22:41 2008 From: fliper56789 at yahoo.com (Phil Enos) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:22:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] SIM PARTS FOR SALE In-Reply-To: <3a0a6c680812220941k6efc5ff1j60847ff91689c8a7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <763535.92505.qm@web53408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hello Bill, Another member has spoken for everything, if it falls through i will let you all know. Thanks for the inquiry. ??Take care and have a great day! -Phil ? --- On Mon, 12/22/08, William Segal wrote: From: William Segal Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] SIM PARTS FOR SALE To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" Date: Monday, December 22, 2008, 12:41 PM On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 9:18 AM, William Segal wrote: What do you have left and what do want for it and be specific money to burn Regards Bill On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Phil Enos wrote: Forgot to mention also 3 PCs also ? ?Take care and have a great day! -Phil ? --- On Sun, 12/21/08, Phil Enos wrote: From: Phil Enos Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] SIM PARTS FOR SALE To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" Date: Sunday, December 21, 2008, 3:37 PM ?Hey Guys, I haven't been on here in a long while, but want to let you all know first before i list on eBay most all my Sim parts for sale, we have moved on to flying the real thing more and more and don't have time to tinker on my Sim project, ? What i have Most all Simkits gauges for a Cessna 172, (most still unassembled) the controller for same, mounted w/power supply, the simkits clock Very nice custom made 172 panel for the simkits gauges The first 172 prototype panel set that was made by flight deck solutions w/ monitor installed. 1-custom modded CH Yoke (usb) 1 stock CH Yoke (USB) 1 CH pro peddles 3 Proxima x-350 projectors near new less then 20 hrs use! 3 modded Nvida cards, ran from a networked master card 3 celing mounts for projectors 1 custom made garmin 530 unit that needs to be reworked, i have a custom made hardware board by Scott Fausel and custom software to interface it. (This was a project Jim Brown and i were working on) I had his prototype working great, really cool it was. misselaneous other things i will have to get a list together, like rotary encoders etc> ? ? I am looking for $1100.00 for everything + shipping If anyone is interested get back to me and i will take pics and get a detailed list of everything as i am suer i have missed a few things. Thanks Phil fliper56789 at yahoo.com ? ? ? ? ? _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. ?Thanks! _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081222/6d9f4cfc/attachment.html From catalina299 at gmail.com Mon Dec 22 19:02:37 2008 From: catalina299 at gmail.com (William Segal) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:02:37 -0800 Subject: [simpits-tech] SIM PARTS FOR SALE In-Reply-To: <763535.92505.qm@web53408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <3a0a6c680812220941k6efc5ff1j60847ff91689c8a7@mail.gmail.com> <763535.92505.qm@web53408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3a0a6c680812221902x3c2ea3b8xfdce620c796927bb@mail.gmail.com> First Rick is a close friend of mine .you said you had more stuff so that is why I inquired. I know all about it Regards Bill On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Phil Enos wrote: > Hello Bill, > Another member has spoken for everything, if it falls through i will let > you all know. > Thanks for the inquiry. > * **Take care and have a great day!* > *-Phil* > * > * > > > --- On *Mon, 12/22/08, William Segal * wrote: > > From: William Segal > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] SIM PARTS FOR SALE > To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" > Date: Monday, December 22, 2008, 12:41 PM > > > > > On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 9:18 AM, William Segal wrote: > >> What do you have left and what do want for it and be specific money to >> burn Regards >> >> Bill >> >> >> On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Phil Enos wrote: >> >>> >>> Forgot to mention also 3 PCs also >>> >>> * **Take care and have a great day!* >>> *-Phil* >>> * >>> * >>> >>> >>> --- On *Sun, 12/21/08, Phil Enos * wrote: >>> >>> From: Phil Enos >>> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] SIM PARTS FOR SALE >>> To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" >>> Date: Sunday, December 21, 2008, 3:37 PM >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Hey Guys, >>> I haven't been on here in a long while, but want to let you all know >>> first before i list on eBay most all my Sim parts for sale, we have moved on >>> to flying the real thing more and more and don't have time to tinker on my >>> Sim project, >>> >>> What i have >>> Most all Simkits gauges for a Cessna 172, (most still unassembled) the >>> controller for same, mounted w/power supply, >>> the simkits clock >>> Very nice custom made 172 panel for the simkits gauges >>> The first 172 prototype panel set that was made by flight deck solutions >>> w/ monitor installed. >>> 1-custom modded CH Yoke (usb) >>> 1 stock CH Yoke (USB) >>> 1 CH pro peddles >>> 3 Proxima x-350 projectors near new less then 20 hrs use! >>> 3 modded Nvida cards, ran from a networked master card >>> 3 celing mounts for projectors >>> 1 custom made garmin 530 unit that needs to be reworked, i have a custom >>> made hardware board by Scott Fausel and custom software to interface it. >>> (This was a project Jim Brown and i were working on) I had his prototype >>> working great, really cool it was. >>> misselaneous other things i will have to get a list together, like rotary >>> encoders etc> >>> >>> >>> I am looking for $1100.00 for everything + shipping >>> If anyone is interested get back to me and i will take pics and get a >>> detailed list of everything as i am suer i have missed a few things. >>> Thanks >>> Phil >>> fliper56789 at yahoo.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> * * >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Simpits-tech mailing listSimpits-tech at simpits.orghttp://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >>> To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. >>> Thanks! >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Simpits-tech mailing list >>> Simpits-tech at simpits.org >>> http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >>> To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above >>> page. Thanks! >>> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing listSimpits-tech at simpits.orghttp://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. > Thanks! > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081222/56d8da33/attachment-0001.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Dec 23 07:04:24 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 07:04:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Awesome 777 cockpit... Message-ID: http://simflite.proboards27.com/index.cgi?board=General&action=display&thread=4 The completed setup is shown at the bottom of the page. This is _exactly_ the configuration that many cockpit procedures trainers are built in. Alaska Airlines had a number of MD80/83 CPTs in their Seatac training center. Rob and I got a late-night tour of the place about ...wow It's been over 10 years ago I think. 1997 seems right. That's where Rob got the reputation for pounding airplanes into plowshares. It was the first time that the tech had ever seen anyone spike an MD85 like a lawn dart at the end of 34R at KSEA. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Dec 23 07:07:06 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 07:07:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] approach plate info... Message-ID: This is an interesting site I found this morning - http://www.airnav.com/airport/KSEA It has a ton of data to download including approach plates and airport diagrams. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From marcquintin at hotmail.com Tue Dec 23 17:25:23 2008 From: marcquintin at hotmail.com (Marc Quintin) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:25:23 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Awesome 777 cockpit... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Nice cockpit indeed, he just needs a good visual system Marc..> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 07:04:24 -0800> From: geneb at deltasoft.com> To: simpits-tech at simpits.org> Subject: [simpits-tech] Awesome 777 cockpit...> > http://simflite.proboards27.com/index.cgi?board=General&action=display&thread=4> > The completed setup is shown at the bottom of the page.> > This is _exactly_ the configuration that many cockpit procedures trainers > are built in. Alaska Airlines had a number of MD80/83 CPTs in their > Seatac training center. Rob and I got a late-night tour of the place > about ...wow It's been over 10 years ago I think. 1997 seems right. > That's where Rob got the reputation for pounding airplanes into > plowshares. It was the first time that the tech had ever seen anyone > spike an MD85 like a lawn dart at the end of 34R at KSEA. :)> > g.> > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007> http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.> > _______________________________________________> Simpits-tech mailing list> Simpits-tech at simpits.org> http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech> To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! _________________________________________________________________ Show them the way! Add maps and directions to your party invites. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/events.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081223/a4e02595/attachment.html From lestatandakasha at msn.com Tue Dec 23 18:18:22 2008 From: lestatandakasha at msn.com (jamie) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 02:18:22 -0000 Subject: [simpits-tech] Awesome 777 cockpit... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Just want to say - Merry Christmas everyone. I hope santa is kind to you all. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081224/6a47a078/attachment.html From bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil Tue Dec 23 18:29:58 2008 From: bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil (Brian Sikkema) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:29:58 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] approach plate info... Message-ID: <6a49e940c8824a4184b9163662187749.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> > >This is an interesting site I found this morning - http://www.airnav.com/airport/KSEA Shoot, you didn't know about Airnav? Invaluable tool. Another good one is skyvector.com - charts, charts, charts!! :D Brian From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Dec 23 21:42:17 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:42:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] approach plate info... In-Reply-To: <6a49e940c8824a4184b9163662187749.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> References: <6a49e940c8824a4184b9163662187749.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> Message-ID: On Tue, 23 Dec 2008, Brian Sikkema wrote: >> > >This is an interesting site I found this morning - > > http://www.airnav.com/airport/KSEA > > Shoot, you didn't know about Airnav? Invaluable tool. > > Another good one is skyvector.com - charts, charts, charts!! :D I don't get out much. :) The sad thing is, for being such a flight simulator geek, I haven't spent any time just *flying* a simulator. The only time I run them is to check some interface thing I'm working on or to research some visual feature. I think it's been something like five years since I even spent more than 10 minutes playing LOMAC. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From crease-guard at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 24 00:10:38 2008 From: crease-guard at sbcglobal.net (Joseph Fagner) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 02:10:38 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] approach plate info... In-Reply-To: References: <6a49e940c8824a4184b9163662187749.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> Message-ID: I bet that could be said for a vast majority of sim builders. I've been hot and cold with flying. Currently in a cold streak right now. Jay Show me a man who cannot be bothered to do the little things, and I will show you a man who cannot be trusted to do the big ones. --Lawrence Bell, Founder Bell Hellicopter -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Gene Buckle Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 11:42 PM To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] approach plate info... On Tue, 23 Dec 2008, Brian Sikkema wrote: >> > >This is an interesting site I found this morning - > > http://www.airnav.com/airport/KSEA > > Shoot, you didn't know about Airnav? Invaluable tool. > > Another good one is skyvector.com - charts, charts, charts!! :D I don't get out much. :) The sad thing is, for being such a flight simulator geek, I haven't spent any time just *flying* a simulator. The only time I run them is to check some interface thing I'm working on or to research some visual feature. I think it's been something like five years since I even spent more than 10 minutes playing LOMAC. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Wed Dec 24 18:05:14 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 02:05:14 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Awesome 777 cockpit... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 24 Dec 2008, jamie wrote: > > > > Just want to say - Merry Christmas everyone. I hope santa is kind to you all. Likewise dude. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Wed Dec 24 18:06:43 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 02:06:43 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] approach plate info... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 24 Dec 2008, Joseph Fagner wrote: > I bet that could be said for a vast majority of sim builders. I've been hot > and cold with flying. Currently in a cold streak right now. Agreed - I'm much the same although it looks like the company are gonna push me through my PPL in the new year :-) That'll certainly change my habits !! -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From rd at ns.sympatico.ca Wed Dec 24 17:08:17 2008 From: rd at ns.sympatico.ca (Rick Davis) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 21:08:17 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] Awesome 777 cockpit... References: Message-ID: <009901c9662d$4568b020$6500a8c0@your384jh9sv0b> Merry Christmas Guys. Been a fun year. Ho Ho Ho Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Coates" To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 10:05 PM Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Awesome 777 cockpit... > On Wed, 24 Dec 2008, jamie wrote: > >> >> >> >> Just want to say - Merry Christmas everyone. I hope santa is kind to you >> all. > > Likewise dude. > > > > > -- > > Roy Coates. > Dept of Engineering. > Liverpool University. > E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk > Tel: 0151 794 4862 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs > meter. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! From bjones at pipecomp.com.au Wed Dec 24 17:35:07 2008 From: bjones at pipecomp.com.au (Ben Jones) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 10:35:07 +0900 Subject: [simpits-tech] approach plate info... References: Message-ID: <010001c96631$04c57590$3c00a8c0@BenLaptop> Do it Roy !!! I'm a 30 year old kid , who has been flying for 15 years and now holds 2 instructor ratings on Gliders and LSA's, LOVED every minute of it, ........except the 2 engine failures. Do It Roy !!!. Ben West Oz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Coates" To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] approach plate info... > On Wed, 24 Dec 2008, Joseph Fagner wrote: > >> I bet that could be said for a vast majority of sim builders. I've been >> hot >> and cold with flying. Currently in a cold streak right now. > > > Agreed - I'm much the same although it looks like the company are gonna > push me through my PPL in the new year :-) That'll certainly change my > habits !! > > > -- > > Roy Coates. > Dept of Engineering. > Liverpool University. > E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk > Tel: 0151 794 4862 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs > meter. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > From geneb at deltasoft.com Wed Dec 24 18:18:05 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:18:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] approach plate info... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 25 Dec 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > On Wed, 24 Dec 2008, Joseph Fagner wrote: > >> I bet that could be said for a vast majority of sim builders. I've been hot >> and cold with flying. Currently in a cold streak right now. > > > Agreed - I'm much the same although it looks like the company are gonna > push me through my PPL in the new year :-) That'll certainly change my > habits !! /me beats Roy unconcious with a large trout g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From sean.g at paradise.net.nz Wed Dec 24 18:32:15 2008 From: sean.g at paradise.net.nz (Sean Galbraith) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 15:32:15 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] approach plate info... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0KCE00AX8V20AX10@smtp4.clear.net.nz> At 03:18 p.m. 25/12/2008, you wrote: >On Thu, 25 Dec 2008, Roy Coates wrote: > > > On Wed, 24 Dec 2008, Joseph Fagner wrote: > > > >> I bet that could be said for a vast majority of sim > builders. I've been hot > >> and cold with flying. Currently in a cold streak right now. > > > > > > Agreed - I'm much the same although it looks like the company are gonna > > push me through my PPL in the new year :-) That'll certainly change my > > habits !! > >/me beats Roy unconcious with a large trout Please allow me to join you in the aforementioned trout beating ;-) SeanG From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Wed Dec 24 18:39:22 2008 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:39:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] sim flying time In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <347322.21210.qm@web111508.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Tuesday, December 23, 2008 11:42 PM From: "Gene Buckle" To: "Simulator Cockpit Builder's List" On Tue, 23 Dec 2008, Brian Sikkema wrote: >> > >This is an interesting site I found this morning - > > http://www.airnav.com/airport/KSEA > > Shoot, you didn't know about Airnav? Invaluable tool. > > Another good one is skyvector.com - charts, charts, charts!! :D >I don't get out much. :) > The sad thing is, for being such a flight simulator geek, I haven't spent >any time just *flying* a simulator.? The only time I run them is to check some interface thing I'm working on or to research some visual feature. >I think it's been something like five years since I even spent more than >10 minutes playing LOMAC. >g. ? We spent two hours in our sims tonight. Seemed like 5 minutes. It was the first time we networked all 3 sims, two F-4 and our new project, a generic F-22. One F-4 doesnt have a communication system yet but will soon. The other F-4 and F-22 could talk to each other and that was a blast! ? We are looking into opening a fixed based simulator center in town. IF we do, there is a real F-16A?proceedure trainer?(all metal) that the owner said they would loan us. I also have one more F-4 sim to bring online. That would give us 5 sims to?open with. ? The sad news is that we missed out on a 40 foot long B-29 nose section. If we had asked about it earlier we could?of got it for free to make a sim with.... ? Justin? ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081224/c1281845/attachment.html From catalina299 at gmail.com Wed Dec 24 19:45:25 2008 From: catalina299 at gmail.com (William Segal) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:45:25 -0800 Subject: [simpits-tech] Awesome 777 cockpit... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3a0a6c680812241945g4d55f16ao9bb2c4a2cd5da027@mail.gmail.com> I hope everyone has a happy Health new Year as one who did not have a Healthy 2008 I pray you all have that for 2009 give your family a giftthey will always remember YOU! Cheers William Segal 1.25MILES ESE KSMO 21L On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 6:05 PM, Roy Coates wrote: > On Wed, 24 Dec 2008, jamie wrote: > > > > > > > > > Just want to say - Merry Christmas everyone. I hope santa is kind to you > all. > > Likewise dude. > > > > > -- > > Roy Coates. > Dept of Engineering. > Liverpool University. > E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk > Tel: 0151 794 4862 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs > meter. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20081224/2a7642b0/attachment.html From pongprom at mac.com Thu Dec 25 08:57:26 2008 From: pongprom at mac.com (Pongprom Snitwong na Ayuthaya) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 23:57:26 +0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] Merry Christmas & Happy New Year In-Reply-To: <3a0a6c680812241945g4d55f16ao9bb2c4a2cd5da027@mail.gmail.com> References: <3a0a6c680812241945g4d55f16ao9bb2c4a2cd5da027@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Dear SimPits Fellows Greeting to you all with the best wishes. Be well and good health. Anyone that older than 40, It's a time to check up your cholesterol, triglyceride, SDL, LDL, Diabetes... ..... ....bla bla bla.. Off course... stop smoking if you are. In some case, I suggest no more than 2 times a day for sex, Because your back may not function as it was before or it may easily damage. God... My back is really hurt now... Happy landing -Prohm- From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Thu Dec 25 17:34:48 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 01:34:48 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] sim flying time In-Reply-To: <347322.21210.qm@web111508.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 24 Dec 2008, Justin Messenger wrote: > ? The sad news is that we missed out on a 40 foot long B-29 nose > section. If we had asked about it earlier we could?of got it for free to > make a sim with.... ? groans *loudly* There's a chance of us getting a complete B-25 next year. It's almost too exciting to think abut for too long ! -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Thu Dec 25 17:36:52 2008 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 01:36:52 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Merry Christmas & Happy New Year In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 25 Dec 2008, Pongprom Snitwong na Ayuthaya wrote: > Anyone that older than 40, > It's a time to check up your cholesterol, triglyceride, SDL, LDL, > Diabetes... ..... ....bla bla bla.. > Off course... stop smoking if you are. > > In some case, I suggest no more than 2 times a day for sex, > Because your back may not function as it was before or it may easily > damage. "Hmm... do you smoke after sex?" "I dunno, I've never looked!" -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------