From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Oct 1 20:56:34 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 20:56:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] F-15 site update... Message-ID: I've updated the site with a picture of the first panel test cut & engraving. For those interested in having a real Type 5 edge-lit panel in their cockpit, keep your eyes peeled. Once I have the 6 done I need to build (5 new panels and 1 replacement light plate), I'll be throwing the doors open to custom build panels for others. I will also be able to provide Type 6 (EL panel lighting) and Type 7 (LED lighting) on request. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Tue Oct 2 00:54:00 2007 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 08:54:00 +0100 (BST) Subject: [simpits-tech] F-15 site update... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Oct 2007, Gene Buckle wrote: > I've updated the site with a picture of the first panel test cut & > engraving. > > For those interested in having a real Type 5 edge-lit panel in their > cockpit, keep your eyes peeled. Once I have the 6 done I need to build (5 > new panels and 1 replacement light plate), I'll be throwing the doors open > to custom build panels for others. I will also be able to provide Type 6 > (EL panel lighting) and Type 7 (LED lighting) on request. CAD program starting now... orders will be with you in 2 hours. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Oct 2 09:12:00 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 09:12:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] F-15 site update... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >> (EL panel lighting) and Type 7 (LED lighting) on request. > > > CAD program starting now... orders will be with you in 2 hours. > Unless you can sling AutoCAD like David Allen can, it'll be considerably longer than 2 hours. That's about what I've got in the one panel I've done already. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Tue Oct 2 13:17:56 2007 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 21:17:56 +0100 (BST) Subject: [simpits-tech] F-15 site update... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 2 Oct 2007, Gene Buckle wrote: > > > > CAD program starting now... orders will be with you in 2 hours. > > > Unless you can sling AutoCAD like David Allen can, it'll be considerably > longer than 2 hours. That's about what I've got in the one panel I've > done already. :) I'd already done the drawings - was just gonna dumb them down for ya ;-) Exciting progress gene, and nice to see the new shop toys earning their keep! What happened to the paint on the cockpit? I thought you had prettied her up a long time back? -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Oct 2 14:26:01 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 14:26:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] F-15 site update... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > I'd already done the drawings - was just gonna dumb them down for ya ;-) > Gee, thanks. I think I've got the right collet to mount a Crayon in the ShopBot. :) > What happened to the paint on the cockpit? I thought you had prettied > her up a long time back? With the stair platform in place, you never really saw how crap the original paint was. :) The only paint that has been applied was to the areas where we used Bondo. At some point I'll zip-strip it and have my neighbor paint it for me. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Tue Oct 2 14:31:11 2007 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 22:31:11 +0100 (BST) Subject: [simpits-tech] F-15 site update... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 2 Oct 2007, Gene Buckle wrote: > > I'd already done the drawings - was just gonna dumb them down for ya ;-) > > > Gee, thanks. I think I've got the right collet to mount a Crayon in the > ShopBot. :) LOL!! hate to tell you this, but that image came very readily to mind! Not sure if it was my shop or yours though ;-) > > What happened to the paint on the cockpit? I thought you had prettied > > her up a long time back? > > With the stair platform in place, you never really saw how crap the > original paint was. :) The only paint that has been applied was to the > areas where we used Bondo. At some point I'll zip-strip it and have my > neighbor paint it for me. Ah... makes sense. Ever a glutton for punishment - look what we just added to our collection... http://jetstream-club.org/prince No, I won't be simming it :p Roy. From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Oct 2 15:24:02 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 15:24:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] F-15 site update... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >> Gee, thanks. I think I've got the right collet to mount a Crayon in the >> ShopBot. :) > > LOL!! hate to tell you this, but that image came very readily to mind! > Not sure if it was my shop or yours though ;-) > I'm nearly tempted to try it. :) > Ever a glutton for punishment - look what we just added to our > collection... http://jetstream-club.org/prince > Now that is a neat looking little airplane. What is it? Where is it sitting at? Does everyone in the UK ware those odd little yellow vests with the silver stripes? :) The bullet hole in the wind screen is a bit disturbing though. :) It would make a great scale subject for an RC model though. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Tue Oct 2 15:37:56 2007 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 23:37:56 +0100 (BST) Subject: [simpits-tech] F-15 site update... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 2 Oct 2007, Gene Buckle wrote: > > LOL!! hate to tell you this, but that image came very readily to mind! > > Not sure if it was my shop or yours though ;-) > > > I'm nearly tempted to try it. :) only tempted? > > Ever a glutton for punishment - look what we just added to our > > collection... http://jetstream-club.org/prince > > > Now that is a neat looking little airplane. What is it? Where is it > sitting at? That is the last remaining Percival Prince. Rumoured to have been flown by Douglas Bader when he was chief pilot for Shell Oil. The photo was taken at Caernarfon - before we took it away :-) > Does everyone in the UK ware those odd little yellow vests > with the silver stripes? :) Heh... the hi-vis vests are essential at airfields - you would literally get hauled away by the heavy-gang if spotted airside without one! > The bullet hole in the wind screen is a bit disturbing though. :) Hmm.. it's obviously been to Liverpool before then... > It would make a great scale subject for an RC model though. She's a very pretty airplane - can't wait to get my hands dirty restoring her. It'll be a while yet, we're still putting the Britannia together. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Oct 2 18:52:40 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 18:52:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] F-15 site update... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >>> LOL!! hate to tell you this, but that image came very readily to mind! >>> Not sure if it was my shop or yours though ;-) >>> >> I'm nearly tempted to try it. :) > > only tempted? > Cleaning mashed crayon out of a $40 collet isn't my idea of fun. :) >> Now that is a neat looking little airplane. What is it? Where is it >> sitting at? > > That is the last remaining Percival Prince. Rumoured to have been flown by > Douglas Bader when he was chief pilot for Shell Oil. The photo was taken > at Caernarfon - before we took it away :-) > Now that is pretty damn cool! Did the elevator show up or was it stolen? > >> Does everyone in the UK ware those odd little yellow vests >> with the silver stripes? :) > > Heh... the hi-vis vests are essential at airfields - you would literally > get hauled away by the heavy-gang if spotted airside without one! > Ware? WARE?! My god, my fingers are dain bramaged. *sobs* They should make the airplanes wear them, not the people. Ever see an airplane dodge a pedestrian? :) > >> It would make a great scale subject for an RC model though. > > She's a very pretty airplane - can't wait to get my hands dirty restoring > her. It'll be a while yet, we're still putting the Britannia together. > I'm shocked that they left the last remaining example of a type sitting outside in the weather. You'd better not leave it outside either! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Wed Oct 3 00:27:10 2007 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 08:27:10 +0100 (BST) Subject: [simpits-tech] F-15 site update... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 2 Oct 2007, Gene Buckle wrote: > Cleaning mashed crayon out of a $40 collet isn't my idea of fun. :) It wasn't YOUR fun I was thinking of ;-) > Now that is pretty damn cool! Did the elevator show up or was it stolen? We're not sure - yet. > > Heh... the hi-vis vests are essential at airfields - you would literally > > get hauled away by the heavy-gang if spotted airside without one! > > They should make the airplanes wear them, not the people. Ever see an > airplane dodge a pedestrian? :) Y'know - that's pretty good logic! > I'm shocked that they left the last remaining example of a type sitting > outside in the weather. You'd better not leave it outside either! Err... actually - we will. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil Wed Oct 3 04:56:58 2007 From: bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil (Brian Sikkema) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 07:56:58 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] F-15 site update... Message-ID: >I'm shocked that they left the last remaining example of a type sitting >outside in the weather. You'd better not leave it outside either! Ever see the XC-99, Gene? Cargo transport based on the B-36. Same deal - one ever even MADE, let alone surviving, sat outside to rust away. Thank goodness the Air Force Museum finally got their hands on it. It's in peices now, awaiting restoration. I never saw it all together, but just looking at the chunks of it, you can tell it was a MASSIVE plane. Gonna be a massive restoration project, too... But as for plane abuse, nothing tops the Memphis Belle... they got their hands on that, now, too, and they're doing a fine job with it. But the fine citizens of Memphis gave them quite a job. They said if it were any other B-17 they would have just written it off as scrap... :( It's only because of it's history that they're even bothering to restore it. Brian From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Wed Oct 3 05:08:55 2007 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 13:08:55 +0100 (BST) Subject: [simpits-tech] F-15 site update... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 3 Oct 2007, Brian Sikkema wrote: > >I'm shocked that they left the last remaining example of a type sitting > >outside in the weather. You'd better not leave it outside either! > > Ever see the XC-99, Gene? Cargo transport based on the B-36. Same deal - one ever even MADE, let alone surviving, sat outside to > rust away. Thank goodness the Air Force Museum finally got their hands on it. It's in peices now, awaiting restoration. I never > saw it all together, but just looking at the chunks of it, you can tell it was a MASSIVE plane. Gonna be a massive restoration > project, too... > > But as for plane abuse, nothing tops the Memphis Belle... they got their hands on that, now, too, and they're doing a fine job > with it. But the fine citizens of Memphis gave them quite a job. They said if it were any other B-17 they would have just written > it off as scrap... :( It's only because of it's history that they're even bothering to restore it. heritage is difficult - it costs money and gives no financial return. as for big aircraft... tell me about it! The britannia is 215' long and 145' wide, and the fuse was in three pieces when we got it. I never want to see another rivet as long as I live... -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Wed Oct 3 08:36:37 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 08:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] F-15 site update... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >> Cleaning mashed crayon out of a $40 collet isn't my idea of fun. :) > > It wasn't YOUR fun I was thinking of ;-) > Hehe. It's really not funny now. I ruined a $40 sheet of plywood, my spoil board and cut a trench in the vacuum plenum last night. :( >> They should make the airplanes wear them, not the people. Ever see an >> airplane dodge a pedestrian? :) > > Y'know - that's pretty good logic! > I screw up every once and a while and say something smart. :) > >> I'm shocked that they left the last remaining example of a type sitting >> outside in the weather. You'd better not leave it outside either! > > Err... actually - we will. > Bad Roy! Bad! You wouldn't leave the last remaining example of a Bugatti roadster outside! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Wed Oct 3 09:00:16 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 09:00:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] F-15 site update... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Ever see the XC-99, Gene? Cargo transport based on the B-36. Same deal - > one ever even MADE, let alone surviving, sat outside to rust away. Thank > goodness the Air Force Museum finally got their hands on it. It's in > peices now, awaiting restoration. I never saw it all together, but just > looking at the chunks of it, you can tell it was a MASSIVE plane. Gonna > be a massive restoration project, too... > I think I've seen that one too. > But as for plane abuse, nothing tops the Memphis Belle... they got their > hands on that, now, too, and they're doing a fine job with it. But the > fine citizens of Memphis gave them quite a job. They said if it were any > other B-17 they would have just written it off as scrap... :( It's only > because of it's history that they're even bothering to restore it. It's good to see it saved. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Wed Oct 3 09:34:28 2007 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 17:34:28 +0100 (BST) Subject: [simpits-tech] F-15 site update... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 3 Oct 2007, Gene Buckle wrote: > Hehe. It's really not funny now. I ruined a $40 sheet of plywood, my > spoil board and cut a trench in the vacuum plenum last night. :( Ouch :( > > Err... actually - we will. > > Bad Roy! Bad! You wouldn't leave the last remaining example of a Bugatti > roadster outside! yeah, but I'd be driving it! -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Thu Oct 4 08:06:17 2007 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 16:06:17 +0100 (BST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Cutting thin materials. Message-ID: I'm sure other must have faced this... I hope. I need to cut very neat circles of about 50mm (2") diameter out of thin plasticard. How to do it? Anyone got a super cool way of doing this? Thanks, Roy. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From idekkers at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 08:16:23 2007 From: idekkers at gmail.com (Ido Dekkers) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 17:16:23 +0200 Subject: [simpits-tech] Cutting thin materials. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <39e5de8d0710040816x20d2a526pd3508f30a987711d@mail.gmail.com> with or without a small hole in the middle ? if you can live with a small hole in the middle : use a circle cutter from NT cutters. if not - i can only think of scissors. Ido On 10/4/07, Roy Coates wrote: > > > > I'm sure other must have faced this... I hope. > > I need to cut very neat circles of about 50mm (2") diameter out of thin > plasticard. > > How to do it? Anyone got a super cool way of doing this? > > Thanks, > > Roy. > > > > -- > > Roy Coates. > Dept of Engineering. > Liverpool University. > E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk > Tel: 0151 794 4862 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs > meter. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20071004/81542568/attachment.html From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Thu Oct 4 08:21:54 2007 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 16:21:54 +0100 (BST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Cutting thin materials. In-Reply-To: <39e5de8d0710040816x20d2a526pd3508f30a987711d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 4 Oct 2007, Ido Dekkers wrote: > with or without a small hole in the middle ? > > if you can live with a small hole in the middle : > use a circle cutter from NT cutters. > > if not - i can only think of scissors. > Thanks Ido, I'll be removing the entire centre so a circle cutter is an option however the only one I have found in the UK is for cutting ceramic tile and I suspect it won't work too well on plastic. I could of course manufacture my own with a scalpel blade... hmmm... -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Oct 4 08:44:07 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 08:44:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Cutting thin materials. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > I'm sure other must have faced this... I hope. > > I need to cut very neat circles of about 50mm (2") diameter out of thin > plasticard. > > How to do it? Anyone got a super cool way of doing this? > How thick is the material? If you can't find anything to do it, send it my way and I'll run 'em through the laser. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Thu Oct 4 08:52:28 2007 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 16:52:28 +0100 (BST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Cutting thin materials. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 4 Oct 2007, Gene Buckle wrote: > > I need to cut very neat circles of about 50mm (2") diameter out of thin > > plasticard. > > How thick is the material? About 1mm. > If you can't find anything to do it, send it my way and I'll run 'em through the laser. show off ! ;-) -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From idekkers at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 09:08:26 2007 From: idekkers at gmail.com (Ido Dekkers) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 18:08:26 +0200 Subject: [simpits-tech] Cutting thin materials. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <39e5de8d0710040908w483fd688m372ed3d8319f96a6@mail.gmail.com> here you can find these in graphic and arts stores. Ido On 10/4/07, Roy Coates wrote: > > On Thu, 4 Oct 2007, Gene Buckle wrote: > > > > I need to cut very neat circles of about 50mm (2") diameter out of > thin > > > plasticard. > > > > How thick is the material? > > About 1mm. > > > > If you can't find anything to do it, send it my way and I'll run 'em > through the laser. > > show off ! ;-) > > > > > -- > > Roy Coates. > Dept of Engineering. > Liverpool University. > E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk > Tel: 0151 794 4862 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs > meter. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20071004/a35652e4/attachment.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Oct 4 12:08:15 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 12:08:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Cutting thin materials. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > About 1mm. > Does it contain any PVC? > >> If you can't find anything to do it, send it my way and I'll run 'em through the laser. > > show off ! ;-) > I'm serious. If you can't find any other way to make the holes, send it over and I'll cut 'em out for you. The plastic can't contain any PVC though. Cutting PVC with the laser will void the warranty because the gasses produced from PVC are VERY acidic and will ruin the metal parts inside. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From idekkers at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 12:21:02 2007 From: idekkers at gmail.com (Ido Dekkers) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 21:21:02 +0200 Subject: [simpits-tech] Cutting thin materials. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <39e5de8d0710041221k25581bf4m43ce8abda5f2382c@mail.gmail.com> these are the guys i was talking about : http://www.ntcutter.co.jp/menu.A.htm don't think you'll have problems with their circle cutter. Ido On 10/4/07, Gene Buckle wrote: > > > About 1mm. > > > Does it contain any PVC? > > > > >> If you can't find anything to do it, send it my way and I'll run 'em > through the laser. > > > > show off ! ;-) > > > > I'm serious. If you can't find any other way to make the holes, send it > over and I'll cut 'em out for you. The plastic can't contain any PVC > though. Cutting PVC with the laser will void the warranty because the > gasses produced from PVC are VERY acidic and will ruin the metal parts > inside. > > g. > > > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20071004/0f2961b6/attachment-0001.html From ed.kogler at utanet.at Thu Oct 4 14:17:48 2007 From: ed.kogler at utanet.at (Edgar Kogler) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 23:17:48 +0200 Subject: [simpits-tech] Cutting thin materials. In-Reply-To: <39e5de8d0710041221k25581bf4m43ce8abda5f2382c@mail.gmail.com> References: <39e5de8d0710041221k25581bf4m43ce8abda5f2382c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20071004231748.9391d0a9.ed.kogler@utanet.at> On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 21:21:02 +0200 "Ido Dekkers" wrote: > these are the guys i was talking about : > http://www.ntcutter.co.jp/menu.A.htm > [...] Use a jigsaw and lots of patience ? Edgar -- Om mani padme hum From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Thu Oct 4 14:17:55 2007 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 22:17:55 +0100 (BST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Cutting thin materials. In-Reply-To: <39e5de8d0710040908w483fd688m372ed3d8319f96a6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 4 Oct 2007, Ido Dekkers wrote: > here you can find these in graphic and arts stores. > Ah, I'm off to our local art supplies store tomorrow - I'll ask. Thanks Ido, appreciate it. -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Thu Oct 4 14:19:27 2007 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 22:19:27 +0100 (BST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Cutting thin materials. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 4 Oct 2007, Gene Buckle wrote: > > About 1mm. > > > Does it contain any PVC? > > I'm serious. If you can't find any other way to make the holes, send it > over and I'll cut 'em out for you. The plastic can't contain any PVC > though. Cutting PVC with the laser will void the warranty because the > gasses produced from PVC are VERY acidic and will ruin the metal parts > inside. Jeez, I have no idea!! Hopefully my art's store will turn something up, if not - I'll make something - I'm on a hellishly tight deadline and without using Fedex I can't afford the luxury of shipping things 6,000 miles! A cool offer though, appreciate that :-) -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Thu Oct 4 16:27:10 2007 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 00:27:10 +0100 (BST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Cutting thin materials. In-Reply-To: <20071004231748.9391d0a9.ed.kogler@utanet.at> Message-ID: On Thu, 4 Oct 2007, Edgar Kogler wrote: > > Use a jigsaw and lots of patience ? > Even with all my best patience, it won't be round!! ;-) -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Oct 4 17:41:54 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 17:41:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Cutting thin materials. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >> >> I'm serious. If you can't find any other way to make the holes, send it >> over and I'll cut 'em out for you. The plastic can't contain any PVC >> though. Cutting PVC with the laser will void the warranty because the >> gasses produced from PVC are VERY acidic and will ruin the metal parts >> inside. > > Jeez, I have no idea!! > Check out the MSDS sheet for it. It'll tell you. > Hopefully my art's store will turn something up, if not - I'll make > something - I'm on a hellishly tight deadline and without using Fedex I > can't afford the luxury of shipping things 6,000 miles! > > A cool offer though, appreciate that :-) > No prob. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Oct 4 18:55:19 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 18:55:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] ShopBot video... Message-ID: Last night I cut the parts for a new workstation for the ShopBot. I took some video of the run to show how it works. Next video will hopefully be of panel parts. :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6965cKlNqA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDxV56daeUE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di_I5BIxhvA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csMGnMJn1A0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEgCLjORVsU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxIvNqW0RoE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aydxOK601Y8 enjoy! :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Fri Oct 5 08:33:40 2007 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 16:33:40 +0100 (BST) Subject: [simpits-tech] ShopBot video... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 4 Oct 2007, Gene Buckle wrote: Would have been nice to see the W/S assembled dude! Wonderful toy you've got there though gene - wonderful! > Last night I cut the parts for a new workstation for the ShopBot. I took > some video of the run to show how it works. > > Next video will hopefully be of panel parts. :) > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6965cKlNqA > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDxV56daeUE > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di_I5BIxhvA > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csMGnMJn1A0 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEgCLjORVsU > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxIvNqW0RoE > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aydxOK601Y8 > > enjoy! :) > > g. > > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Oct 5 08:46:39 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 08:46:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] ShopBot video... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > > Would have been nice to see the W/S assembled dude! > > Wonderful toy you've got there though gene - wonderful! > Thanks Roy. The cut sheet is still on the 'bot. I haven't decided whether or not to just slam it together and use it, or sand & finish it. Either way I go, I'll post pictures of it once it's put together. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Fri Oct 5 09:11:20 2007 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 17:11:20 +0100 (BST) Subject: [simpits-tech] ShopBot video... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 5 Oct 2007, Gene Buckle wrote: > > > > Would have been nice to see the W/S assembled dude! > > > > Wonderful toy you've got there though gene - wonderful! > > > > Thanks Roy. The cut sheet is still on the 'bot. I haven't decided > whether or not to just slam it together and use it, or sand & finish it. > Either way I go, I'll post pictures of it once it's put together. Good man :-) -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From bjones at pipecomp.com.au Sun Oct 7 03:50:49 2007 From: bjones at pipecomp.com.au (Ben Jones) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:50:49 +0900 Subject: [simpits-tech] ShopBot video... References: Message-ID: <008101c808cf$eca2bdc0$3d00a8c0@bjblackbox> Gene, Sweet as ! whats a shop bot worth in US dollars. and do you have to programme in any pauses to limit cutter temps ? I must admit when the word " oops " was used I would have used something else ! 8-) Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Buckle" To: Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 10:55 AM Subject: [simpits-tech] ShopBot video... > Last night I cut the parts for a new workstation for the ShopBot. I took > some video of the run to show how it works. > > Next video will hopefully be of panel parts. :) From bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil Sun Oct 7 07:49:44 2007 From: bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil (Brian Sikkema) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 10:49:44 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] ShopBot video... Message-ID: <5724e8cdfa574244ae9a28b7d1bf27d7.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> Just checking, Gene, have I mentioned I hate you lately? ;) I hate you. Grrr. lol. Looks beautiful!!! How big of pieces can that thing handle, again? The merc has several large panels as opposed to many tiny ones, you know. ;) Not that I'm anywhere near construction.... but will definitely be getting ahold of you when I am! Brian PS - I think McChord is within reason for a cross country destination.... We're not to that point yet, but once we are I'll see what I can do. I have another really good friend in the Seattle area, so it might work out well... >------- Original Message ------- >From : Gene Buckle[mailto:geneb at deltasoft.com] >Sent : 10/4/2007 9:55:19 PM >To : simpits-tech at simpits.org >Cc : >Subject : RE: [simpits-tech] ShopBot video... > >Last night I cut the parts for a new workstation for the ShopBot. I took some video of the run to show how it works. Next video will hopefully be of panel parts. :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6965cKlNqA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDxV56daeUE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di_I5BIxhvA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csMGnMJn1A0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEgCLjORVsU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxIvNqW0RoE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aydxOK601Y8 enjoy! :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From geneb at deltasoft.com Sun Oct 7 10:15:35 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 10:15:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] ShopBot video... In-Reply-To: <008101c808cf$eca2bdc0$3d00a8c0@bjblackbox> References: <008101c808cf$eca2bdc0$3d00a8c0@bjblackbox> Message-ID: > Sweet as ! whats a shop bot worth in US dollars. > As configured it was somewhere north of $17k. Suffice to say that I got really lucky when we sold our old house. :) > and do you have to programme in any pauses to limit cutter temps ? > No. Like with any kind of CNC (or even manual) cutting tool, you've got to make sure that the RPM of the cutter and the rate in which you run the cutter through the material will create the optimal "chip load". This is a fancy term that describes the size of the chip created by one full revolution of the cutter. Each cutter type has a range of chip load numbers that as long as you stay between, you'll be ok. Correctly sized chips carry away much of the heat generated by the cutting process. When you're cutting metal or plastic however, it's a totally different ball game. In those instances you can generate far too much heat for the cut chips to remove by themselves so you need to use some kind of coolant. When cutting steel you'll typically see the machine using what is known as flood coolant. This type of setup continually "floods" the bit and work area with a steady stream of coolant. The setup I'll be using when cutting aluminum will be high-velocity air directed at the tool. I've seen pictures of people using a similar setup that adds a 50/50 mix of water an alcohol(sp) that resulted in frost forming on the tool. :) > I must admit when the word " oops " was used I would have used something > else ! 8-) Hehe. That actually wasn't a problem. Turned out it did just what it was supposed to do. :) The original problem I had cutting the project was due to the documentation not mentioning that you needed to manually start the spindle. When the program started, it promptly tried dragging the idle cutter though the wood. Fortunately I stopped it before it did much damage. I also made a mistake on 2nd run in how I set the zero point for the Z (depth of cut) axis, resulting in two gouges in the wood. I've got it all put together and I'll be posting pictures soon. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Sun Oct 7 11:09:22 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 11:09:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] ShopBot video... In-Reply-To: <5724e8cdfa574244ae9a28b7d1bf27d7.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> References: <5724e8cdfa574244ae9a28b7d1bf27d7.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> Message-ID: > Just checking, Gene, have I mentioned I hate you > lately? ;) > > I hate you. Grrr. lol. Looks beautiful!!! > Hehehhe. > How big of pieces can that thing handle, again? The > merc has several large panels as opposed to many tiny > ones, you know. ;) Not that I'm anywhere near > construction.... but will definitely be getting ahold > of you when I am! > The machine can hold a 4x8 sheet of plywood. Big enough for you? :) > Brian > > PS - I think McChord is within reason for a cross > country destination.... We're not to that point yet, > but once we are I'll see what I can do. I have > another really good friend in the Seattle area, so it > might work out well... > Cool. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Sun Oct 7 11:29:35 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 11:29:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Panel goodness... Message-ID: Ok folks, I've _finally_ gotten my first panel prototype completed! Last night I cut my first plastic panel and it turned out fantastic! I made this first panel in order to test all the laser based production processes I created. The result is fantastic! I couldn't wait for the white paint to dry so there are little bits of white paint in places there shouldn't be, but the result is still fantastic! The direct image link is http://www.f15sim.com/images/panels/fuel_prototype.jpg or you can just go to the f15sim.com site and see it on the main page. ttyl! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Sun Oct 7 11:35:21 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 11:35:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] workstation pics for Roy... Message-ID: Here ya go Roy! :) http://www.simpits.org/~geneb/workstation/workstation1.jpg http://www.simpits.org/~geneb/workstation/workstation2.jpg http://www.simpits.org/~geneb/workstation/workstation3.jpg The workstation was assembled without any fasteners at all. It works really well. The trick is the little "snap-in" parts that use little wooden wedges to expand the snap-joints to hold all the parts tightly in place. If you want to see exactly how it was put together, you can get a 3D model of the project by installing Google Sketchup (the free version is adequate for this) and download the model here: http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=245198c3712731914fb36e0622de5048 You can also search Google for "sketchup shopbot workstation" to find the model page. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Sun Oct 7 15:57:05 2007 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 23:57:05 +0100 (BST) Subject: [simpits-tech] ShopBot video... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 7 Oct 2007, Gene Buckle wrote: > The original problem I had cutting the project was due > to the documentation not mentioning that you needed to manually start the > spindle. When the program started, it promptly tried dragging the idle > cutter though the wood. *EEEEEK!* -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Sun Oct 7 15:57:41 2007 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 23:57:41 +0100 (BST) Subject: [simpits-tech] ShopBot video... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 7 Oct 2007, Gene Buckle wrote: > The machine can hold a 4x8 sheet of plywood. Big enough for you? :) Damn. All my stuff is 8x4, not 4x8 :/ -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Sun Oct 7 15:58:45 2007 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 23:58:45 +0100 (BST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Panel goodness... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 7 Oct 2007, Gene Buckle wrote: > > Ok folks, I've _finally_ gotten my first panel prototype completed! > > Last night I cut my first plastic panel and it turned out fantastic! > > I made this first panel in order to test all the laser based production > processes I created. The result is fantastic! I couldn't wait for the > white paint to dry so there are little bits of white paint in places there > shouldn't be, but the result is still fantastic! > > The direct image link is > http://www.f15sim.com/images/panels/fuel_prototype.jpg or you can just go > to the f15sim.com site and see it on the main page. > Oh that is just too cool for words! I'll bet you're still grinning :-) -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Sun Oct 7 16:01:33 2007 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 00:01:33 +0100 (BST) Subject: [simpits-tech] workstation pics for Roy... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 7 Oct 2007, Gene Buckle wrote: > > Here ya go Roy! :) > > http://www.simpits.org/~geneb/workstation/workstation1.jpg > http://www.simpits.org/~geneb/workstation/workstation2.jpg > http://www.simpits.org/~geneb/workstation/workstation3.jpg > That's pretty smart. You need never buy furniture again ;-) -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Sun Oct 7 16:06:20 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 16:06:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] ShopBot video... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >> The machine can hold a 4x8 sheet of plywood. Big enough for you? :) > > > > Damn. All my stuff is 8x4, not 4x8 :/ > > Jeeze, those silly UKians and their metric plywood. *sigh* :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Sun Oct 7 16:07:02 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 16:07:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Panel goodness... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >> The direct image link is >> http://www.f15sim.com/images/panels/fuel_prototype.jpg or you can just go >> to the f15sim.com site and see it on the main page. >> > > > Oh that is just too cool for words! I'll bet you're still grinning :-) > ..like a complete idiot. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Sun Oct 7 16:07:48 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 16:07:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] workstation pics for Roy... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >> Here ya go Roy! :) >> >> http://www.simpits.org/~geneb/workstation/workstation1.jpg >> http://www.simpits.org/~geneb/workstation/workstation2.jpg >> http://www.simpits.org/~geneb/workstation/workstation3.jpg >> > > > That's pretty smart. You need never buy furniture again ;-) > It would be too uncomfortable to watch TV from. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Sun Oct 7 16:22:15 2007 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 00:22:15 +0100 (BST) Subject: [simpits-tech] ShopBot video... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 7 Oct 2007, Gene Buckle wrote: > > Damn. All my stuff is 8x4, not 4x8 :/ > > > > Jeeze, those silly UKians and their metric plywood. *sigh* :) It's not that long ago, in the UK, you could buy lumber in sizes where then length was in metres, and the other two dimensions were imperial. We still call a "2 by 4" a "2 by 4" though :-) -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Sun Oct 7 16:22:42 2007 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 00:22:42 +0100 (BST) Subject: [simpits-tech] workstation pics for Roy... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 7 Oct 2007, Gene Buckle wrote: > > That's pretty smart. You need never buy furniture again ;-) > > > > It would be too uncomfortable to watch TV from. :) Why would you wanna watch TV when you've a shop-bot? -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From bjones at pipecomp.com.au Sun Oct 7 20:29:01 2007 From: bjones at pipecomp.com.au (Ben Jones) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 11:29:01 +0800 Subject: [simpits-tech] Panel goodness... References: Message-ID: <004201c8095b$5fde7eb0$0b00000a@BenLaptop> Can any-one spot the typo ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Buckle" To: Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 2:29 AM Subject: [simpits-tech] Panel goodness... > > Ok folks, I've _finally_ gotten my first panel prototype completed! > > Last night I cut my first plastic panel and it turned out fantastic! > From geneb at deltasoft.com Sun Oct 7 21:56:00 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 21:56:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Panel goodness... In-Reply-To: <004201c8095b$5fde7eb0$0b00000a@BenLaptop> References: <004201c8095b$5fde7eb0$0b00000a@BenLaptop> Message-ID: > Can any-one spot the typo ? > You're and evil, evil man. Evil I say! :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Sun Oct 7 21:57:02 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 21:57:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Panel goodness... In-Reply-To: <004201c8095b$5fde7eb0$0b00000a@BenLaptop> References: <004201c8095b$5fde7eb0$0b00000a@BenLaptop> Message-ID: > Can any-one spot the typo ? > ...and what's worse, you made me look. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From bjones at pipecomp.com.au Sun Oct 7 22:30:47 2007 From: bjones at pipecomp.com.au (Ben Jones) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 13:30:47 +0800 Subject: [simpits-tech] Panel goodness... References: <004201c8095b$5fde7eb0$0b00000a@BenLaptop> Message-ID: <008b01c8096c$627dd1f0$0b00000a@BenLaptop> < evil grin > I'd thought long and hard about posting... but the little kid inside me made me do it. 8-) Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Buckle" To: "Simulator Cockpit tech list" Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Panel goodness... >> Can any-one spot the typo ? >> > ...and what's worse, you made me look. :) > > g. From sean.g at paradise.net.nz Sun Oct 7 22:50:38 2007 From: sean.g at paradise.net.nz (Sean Galbraith) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:50:38 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] Panel goodness... In-Reply-To: <008b01c8096c$627dd1f0$0b00000a@BenLaptop> References: <004201c8095b$5fde7eb0$0b00000a@BenLaptop> <008b01c8096c$627dd1f0$0b00000a@BenLaptop> Message-ID: <0JPK0050RWCGFM40@smtp3.clear.net.nz> At 06:30 p.m. 8/10/2007, you wrote: >< evil grin > > >I'd thought long and hard about posting... but the little kid inside me >made me do it. I just can't wait for the trout slapping that *must* come next ;-) SeanG From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Mon Oct 8 04:29:27 2007 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 12:29:27 +0100 (BST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Panel goodness... In-Reply-To: <0JPK0050RWCGFM40@smtp3.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: On Mon, 8 Oct 2007, Sean Galbraith wrote: > At 06:30 p.m. 8/10/2007, you wrote: > >< evil grin > > > > >I'd thought long and hard about posting... but the little kid inside me > >made me do it. > > I just can't wait for the trout slapping that *must* come next ;-) > Stand back... we're gonna get splashed... -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Oct 8 12:56:19 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 12:56:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Panel goodness... In-Reply-To: <008b01c8096c$627dd1f0$0b00000a@BenLaptop> References: <004201c8095b$5fde7eb0$0b00000a@BenLaptop> <008b01c8096c$627dd1f0$0b00000a@BenLaptop> Message-ID: > < evil grin > > > I'd thought long and hard about posting... but the little kid inside me > made me do it. > Heh. Good one though. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Oct 8 12:59:16 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 12:59:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Panel goodness... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > On Mon, 8 Oct 2007, Sean Galbraith wrote: > >> At 06:30 p.m. 8/10/2007, you wrote: >>> < evil grin > >>> >>> I'd thought long and hard about posting... but the little kid inside me >>> made me do it. >> >> I just can't wait for the trout slapping that *must* come next ;-) >> > > Stand back... we're gonna get splashed... Nah, he got me fair and square. He gets points for sublety. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Mon Oct 8 14:40:09 2007 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 22:40:09 +0100 (BST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Interesting Sim Message-ID: Thought you guys might be interested in this - I just found the pics whilst tidying up my hard disk. http://jetstream-club.org/Delfin The instruments are simkits - the rear seat is used as a sort of instructor/guide station. These pics were taken fairly early on - the bird has been painted now and the sim completed. A sweet setup! -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Oct 8 14:49:24 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:49:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Interesting Sim In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Thought you guys might be interested in this - I just found the pics > whilst tidying up my hard disk. > > http://jetstream-club.org/Delfin > > The instruments are simkits - the rear seat is used as a sort of > instructor/guide station. > Very nice! The stick grip is very similar to what is found in the FW-190 and Me-109. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From biggles at biggles.demon.nl Wed Oct 24 14:25:19 2007 From: biggles at biggles.demon.nl (Biggles) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 23:25:19 +0200 Subject: [simpits-tech] test Message-ID: <471FB83F.6070206@biggles.demon.nl> Just a test to see if my new isp is doing its work. Biggles. From bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil Wed Oct 24 17:44:42 2007 From: bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil (Brian Sikkema) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:44:42 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] test Message-ID: <63708c8acb454da0a0eb4dd7c20cce69.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> Seems to be... Too quiet around here lately anyway. >------- Original Message ------- >From : Biggles[mailto:biggles at biggles.demon.nl] >Sent : 10/24/2007 5:25:19 PM >To : simpits-tech at simpits.org >Cc : >Subject : RE: [simpits-tech] test > >Just a test to see if my new isp is doing its work. Biggles. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Oct 26 22:18:35 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 22:18:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] interesting sim project.... Message-ID: This one just crossed my radar. :) http://www.f15simulator.com g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From speedone at chello.nl Sat Oct 27 07:46:53 2007 From: speedone at chello.nl (Chris van Lierop) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 16:46:53 +0200 Subject: [simpits-tech] F16/Cockpit stuff for sale References: Message-ID: <001001c818a8$371981d0$8800a8c0@CHRISWORK> Hello everyone, To old friends: Hi again, it's been a long time!!! To new builders: Hi to you too... ;-) For those who are interested, I'm selling some of my F16 cockpit stuff. Check out this link: http://members.chello.nl/~c.vanlierop/forsale.html Any questions? Want a discount? ;-) Just mail me.... Chris van Lierop Elce|Design No-Nonsense Webdesign e-mail: info at elce.nl http://www.elce.nl -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20071027/cfc462f8/attachment.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Sat Oct 27 09:44:33 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 09:44:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] F16/Cockpit stuff for sale In-Reply-To: <001001c818a8$371981d0$8800a8c0@CHRISWORK> References: <001001c818a8$371981d0$8800a8c0@CHRISWORK> Message-ID: > Hello everyone, > > To old friends: Hi again, it's been a long time!!! > > To new builders: Hi to you too... ;-) > > For those who are interested, I'm selling some of my F16 cockpit stuff. Check out this link: > http://members.chello.nl/~c.vanlierop/forsale.html > > Any questions? Want a discount? ;-) Just mail me.... > It's nice to see you still around Chris! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Sat Oct 27 18:37:54 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 18:37:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] F16/Cockpit stuff for sale In-Reply-To: <28142504.1193508172525.JavaMail.root@viefep32> References: <28142504.1193508172525.JavaMail.root@viefep32> Message-ID: > > Yeah, I'm lurking silently in the background... Still receiving my daily > portion of Simpits e-mails and wading through them ones in a while, but > I haven't been actively involved in any kind of pit-building for many > years now. Lifes change, priorities are rearranged... blah blah blah ;-) > Hehe. > I'm studying hard to be a fysical therapist now and that, combined with a 39 hour workweek, salsa-lessons and workshops (and a girlfriend), is eating up most of my time now... > FYI, It's "Physical". :) > It's nice to keep an eye on the evolution of your F15 pit though... Oh, > if only a day had 34 hours ;-) > I wish. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil Sun Oct 28 11:28:55 2007 From: bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil (Brian Sikkema) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:28:55 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] interesting sim project.... Message-ID: <16033c66232c467e9a63f9d8afb5ca3f.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> ??? Sure on that link, Gene? All I'm getting is one of those canned "nothing is here" websites. Brian >------- Original Message ------- >From : Gene Buckle[mailto:geneb at deltasoft.com] >Sent : 10/27/2007 1:18:35 AM >To : simpits-tech at simpits.org >Cc : >Subject : RE: [simpits-tech] interesting sim project.... > >This one just crossed my radar. :) http://www.f15simulator.com g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From geneb at deltasoft.com Sun Oct 28 12:02:44 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 12:02:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] interesting sim project.... In-Reply-To: <16033c66232c467e9a63f9d8afb5ca3f.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> References: <16033c66232c467e9a63f9d8afb5ca3f.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> Message-ID: > ??? > > Sure on that link, Gene? All I'm getting is one of > those canned "nothing is here" websites. > I'm sorry, I mis-typed the URL. It's http://www.f5simulator.com. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil Sun Oct 28 15:42:09 2007 From: bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil (Brian Sikkema) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 18:42:09 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] interesting sim project.... Message-ID: lol... "This website is temporarily unavailable, please try again later." You're 0 for 2... ;) Nah looks like you got the URL right this time, we musta just thwacked this guys server or something. ;) I guess you just have F-15s on the brain... >------- Original Message ------- >From : Gene Buckle[mailto:geneb at deltasoft.com] >Sent : 10/28/2007 3:02:44 PM >To : simpits-tech at simpits.org >Cc : >Subject : RE: Re: [simpits-tech] interesting sim project.... > >> ??? > > Sure on that link, Gene? All I'm getting is one of > those canned "nothing is here" websites. > I'm sorry, I mis-typed the URL. It's http://www.f5simulator.com. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From geneb at deltasoft.com Sun Oct 28 16:22:37 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 16:22:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] interesting sim project.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > "This website is temporarily unavailable, please try > again later." > > You're 0 for 2... ;) Nah looks like you got the URL > right this time, we musta just thwacked this guys > server or something. ;) > > I guess you just have F-15s on the brain... > Hehe. Yep! g. From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Mon Oct 29 18:52:43 2007 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:52:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] windows question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <353919.12036.qm@web52006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I have a dual core amd pc. which is better for running games - win xp 32 bit home or win xp 64 bit pro? Would the 64 bit handle FS x better? thnx. Justin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Oct 29 20:08:10 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:08:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] windows question In-Reply-To: <353919.12036.qm@web52006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <353919.12036.qm@web52006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > I have a dual core amd pc. which is better for running > games - win xp 32 bit home or win xp 64 bit pro? Would > the 64 bit handle FS x better? > The games really won't benefit from the 64 bit version of XP, but you're better off with a pro vs home edition. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geoff at mechpit.com Mon Oct 29 21:50:55 2007 From: geoff at mechpit.com (Geoff Baker) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:50:55 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] windows question In-Reply-To: References: <353919.12036.qm@web52006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000601c81ab0$74e79740$5eb6c5c0$@com> Also, unless the game is written to multi-thread a super fast single core will beat any dual core. Apps that multi-thread do great the Windows OS will multi-thread, so will photo, audio, and video editing apps. I had a PC crash a while back and went multi-core running x64 Vista. Half-Life2's Lost coast timedemo ran at 32FPS, other games would not even run. Went back to XP x86 (32bit) and the same time demo ran at 68FPS. Best idea is to look up what you will be playing and read if anyone else is having problems. -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Gene Buckle Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 8:08 PM To: Simulator Cockpit tech list Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] windows question > I have a dual core amd pc. which is better for running > games - win xp 32 bit home or win xp 64 bit pro? Would > the 64 bit handle FS x better? > The games really won't benefit from the 64 bit version of XP, but you're better off with a pro vs home edition. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From sean.g at paradise.net.nz Mon Oct 29 23:58:08 2007 From: sean.g at paradise.net.nz (Sean Galbraith) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:58:08 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] windows question In-Reply-To: <000601c81ab0$74e79740$5eb6c5c0$@com> References: <353919.12036.qm@web52006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <000601c81ab0$74e79740$5eb6c5c0$@com> Message-ID: <0JQP0088LQ1N6Z10@smtp4.clear.net.nz> Gidday Justin, We did some testing at work using different cominations of XP and Vista, FS9 and FSX on a dual-core machine. (Admittedly the machine was Intel, not AMD) We found that the Vista/FSX combo worked really really well, and with the latest patches FSX does take advantage of multi-core processors. The increase in performance of FSX under Vista, over XP Pro was staggering, I honestly didn't believe the difference! Hope that helps :) SeanG At 05:50 p.m. 30/10/2007, you wrote: >Also, unless the game is written to multi-thread a super fast single core >will beat any dual core. >Apps that multi-thread do great the Windows OS will multi-thread, so will >photo, audio, and video editing apps. > >I had a PC crash a while back and went multi-core running x64 Vista. >Half-Life2's Lost coast timedemo ran at 32FPS, other games would not even >run. >Went back to XP x86 (32bit) and the same time demo ran at 68FPS. > >Best idea is to look up what you will be playing and read if anyone else is >having problems. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org >[mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Gene Buckle >Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 8:08 PM >To: Simulator Cockpit tech list >Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] windows question > > > I have a dual core amd pc. which is better for running > > games - win xp 32 bit home or win xp 64 bit pro? Would > > the 64 bit handle FS x better? > > >The games really won't benefit from the 64 bit version of XP, but you're >better off with a pro vs home edition. > >g. > >-- >Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 >http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. >_______________________________________________ >Simpits-tech mailing list >Simpits-tech at simpits.org >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. >Thanks! > > >_______________________________________________ >Simpits-tech mailing list >Simpits-tech at simpits.org >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the >above page. Thanks! > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1098 - Release Date: >29/10/2007 9:28 a.m. From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Wed Oct 31 12:36:44 2007 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:36:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] windows question Message-ID: <763843.86537.qm@web52012.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Sean, I plan to run fsx and Falcon AF. I tried downlding the FSX patch and it really screwed up my computer. It shut FSX down and it wont reinstall. Im planning on fromating my harddrive and starting over which bites 'cause everything is a new install as it is. If x runs better under vista I might try that, with 4 gigs of ram I still could not turn up much of the goodies in x. Thx, Justin ----------------------------------------------------------- Gidday Justin, We did some testing at work using different cominations of XP and Vista, FS9 and FSX on a dual-core machine. (Admittedly the machine was Intel, not AMD) We found that the Vista/FSX combo worked really really well, and with the latest patches FSX does take advantage of multi-core processors. The increase in performance of FSX under Vista, over XP Pro was staggering, I honestly didn't believe the difference! Hope that helps :) SeanG __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From idekkers at gmail.com Wed Oct 31 12:44:53 2007 From: idekkers at gmail.com (Ido Dekkers) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:44:53 +0200 Subject: [simpits-tech] windows question In-Reply-To: <763843.86537.qm@web52012.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <763843.86537.qm@web52012.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <39e5de8d0710311244l753c5ce2w4676c94d0be5d00f@mail.gmail.com> to turn up everything you need a stronger graphics card - not more memory. Ido On 10/31/07, Justin Messenger wrote: > > Sean, > I plan to run fsx and Falcon AF. I tried downlding > the FSX patch and it really screwed up my computer. It > shut FSX down and it wont reinstall. Im planning on > fromating my harddrive and starting over which bites > 'cause everything is a new install as it is. > > If x runs better under vista I might try that, with > 4 gigs of ram I still could not turn up much of the > goodies in x. > > Thx, > Justin > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > Gidday Justin, > We did some testing at work using different > cominations of XP and > Vista, FS9 and FSX on a dual-core machine. > (Admittedly the machine was Intel, not AMD) > We found that the Vista/FSX combo worked really really > well, and with > the latest patches FSX does take advantage of > multi-core > processors. The increase in performance of FSX under > Vista, over XP > Pro was staggering, I honestly didn't believe the > difference! > > Hope that helps :) > > SeanG > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20071031/7dc538a9/attachment-0001.html From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Wed Oct 31 13:02:24 2007 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:02:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] windows question Message-ID: <8587.29756.qm@web52006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I have a 500 meg ATI card. It runs FS9 really well. Justin ------------------------------------------- to turn up everything you need a stronger graphics card - not more memory. Ido __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From idekkers at gmail.com Wed Oct 31 13:06:16 2007 From: idekkers at gmail.com (Ido Dekkers) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:06:16 +0200 Subject: [simpits-tech] windows question In-Reply-To: <8587.29756.qm@web52006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <8587.29756.qm@web52006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <39e5de8d0710311306p7be20fc0t39413c47d1857e03@mail.gmail.com> which GPU is it ? On 10/31/07, Justin Messenger wrote: > > I have a 500 meg ATI card. It runs FS9 really well. > > Justin > ------------------------------------------- > to turn up everything you need a stronger graphics > card - not more memory. > > Ido > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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