From geneb at deltasoft.com Wed Jul 11 07:56:23 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 07:56:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Updates... Message-ID: First off, for those old timers that have been on the list forever, our intrepid graphic artist Prohm has surfaced! For those that don't know him, he's the guy behind all the Simpits logos and badges. (He's also one hell of a musician!) He's sent me an update for the main Simpits page which I'll get posted tonight. He's also done a really great poster image for PhanCon! Second, the F-15 sim site has been updated, this time it's _only_ about the F-15. :) ttyl! g. -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil Wed Jul 11 11:48:52 2007 From: bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil (Brian Sikkema) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 14:48:52 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] Updates... Message-ID: Sweet, sweet, and double-sweet. :D Brian >------- Original Message ------- >From : Gene Buckle[mailto:geneb at deltasoft.com] >Sent : 7/11/2007 10:56:23 AM >To : simpits-tech at simpits.org >Cc : >Subject : RE: [simpits-tech] Updates... > >First off, for those old timers that have been on the list forever, our intrepid graphic artist Prohm has surfaced! For those that don't know him, he's the guy behind all the Simpits logos and badges. (He's also one hell of a musician!) He's sent me an update for the main Simpits page which I'll get posted tonight. He's also done a really great poster image for PhanCon! Second, the F-15 sim site has been updated, this time it's _only_ about the F-15. :) ttyl! g. -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From falcon4 at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 11 16:10:24 2007 From: falcon4 at sbcglobal.net (Joseph Fagner) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:10:24 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Updates... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <009d01c7c410$a9ceed60$1900a8c0@flightsystems> Looks good Gene. The odometer type displays...Leo may be coming up with a solution for that. We tried looked for small 7segs but really couldn't find anything suitable in that size. I know he's working on a design to replicate that odometer type display. Cheers Jay -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Gene Buckle Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 9:56 AM To: simpits-tech at simpits.org Subject: [simpits-tech] Updates... First off, for those old timers that have been on the list forever, our intrepid graphic artist Prohm has surfaced! For those that don't know him, he's the guy behind all the Simpits logos and badges. (He's also one hell of a musician!) He's sent me an update for the main Simpits page which I'll get posted tonight. He's also done a really great poster image for PhanCon! Second, the F-15 sim site has been updated, this time it's _only_ about the F-15. :) ttyl! g. -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From idekkers at gmail.com Wed Jul 11 23:14:25 2007 From: idekkers at gmail.com (Ido Dekkers) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 09:14:25 +0300 Subject: [simpits-tech] Updates... In-Reply-To: <009d01c7c410$a9ceed60$1900a8c0@flightsystems> References: <009d01c7c410$a9ceed60$1900a8c0@flightsystems> Message-ID: <39e5de8d0707112314y7fd36b42rc3812d5a44b73fe1@mail.gmail.com> looks great gene one little thing though: one of the sponsor banners is missing (for me at least), so all the content is jumping up and down. Ido On 7/12/07, Joseph Fagner wrote: > > Looks good Gene. The odometer type displays...Leo may be coming up with a > solution for that. We tried looked for small 7segs but really couldn't > find > anything suitable in that size. I know he's working on a design to > replicate that odometer type display. > > Cheers > Jay > > -----Original Message----- > From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org > [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Gene Buckle > Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 9:56 AM > To: simpits-tech at simpits.org > Subject: [simpits-tech] Updates... > > First off, for those old timers that have been on the list forever, our > intrepid graphic artist Prohm has surfaced! > > For those that don't know him, he's the guy behind all the Simpits logos > and badges. (He's also one hell of a musician!) > > He's sent me an update for the main Simpits page which I'll get posted > tonight. He's also done a really great poster image for PhanCon! > > Second, the F-15 sim site has been updated, this time it's _only_ about > the F-15. :) > > ttyl! > > g. > > > -- > "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" > > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. > Thanks! > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20070711/f598f289/attachment.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Jul 12 07:03:22 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 07:03:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Updates... In-Reply-To: <009d01c7c410$a9ceed60$1900a8c0@flightsystems> Message-ID: > Looks good Gene. The odometer type displays...Leo may be coming up with a > solution for that. We tried looked for small 7segs but really couldn't find > anything suitable in that size. I know he's working on a design to > replicate that odometer type display. > Thanks Jay. The odometer displays are for sure a pain. I had found some matrix displays that would do the job, and I'd sent them to Marv years ago when I was going to have him build out my main 6 engine instruments. Problem is, I can't find him now. :( The displays I found require a PIC to drive since they're actually a tiny dot matrix, but the size was nearly perfect for my needs. Hopefully I can find the paperwork on them and order more. g. -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Jul 12 07:13:25 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 07:13:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Updates... In-Reply-To: <39e5de8d0707112314y7fd36b42rc3812d5a44b73fe1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > looks great gene > Thanks Ido! > one little thing though: > > one of the sponsor banners is missing (for me at least), so all the content > is jumping up and down. > The only sponsor banner is a small Google ad below the main F-15C banner. Is that what you're referring to? g. -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From idekkers at gmail.com Thu Jul 12 07:49:46 2007 From: idekkers at gmail.com (Ido Dekkers) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 17:49:46 +0300 Subject: [simpits-tech] Updates... In-Reply-To: References: <39e5de8d0707112314y7fd36b42rc3812d5a44b73fe1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <39e5de8d0707120749qc366710pfb16360c135fe6bf@mail.gmail.com> On 7/12/07, Gene Buckle wrote: > > > looks great gene > > > Thanks Ido! > > > one little thing though: > > > > one of the sponsor banners is missing (for me at least), so all the > content > > is jumping up and down. > > > The only sponsor banner is a small Google ad below the main F-15C banner. > Is that what you're referring to? > > g. > > -- > "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" > > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20070712/2a0f0ab7/attachment.html From idekkers at gmail.com Thu Jul 12 07:51:18 2007 From: idekkers at gmail.com (Ido Dekkers) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 17:51:18 +0300 Subject: [simpits-tech] Updates... In-Reply-To: <39e5de8d0707120749qc366710pfb16360c135fe6bf@mail.gmail.com> References: <39e5de8d0707112314y7fd36b42rc3812d5a44b73fe1@mail.gmail.com> <39e5de8d0707120749qc366710pfb16360c135fe6bf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <39e5de8d0707120751p3db767e0wd91e72c799f1e7b3@mail.gmail.com> i see an alternating banner, the long f15 one, then it sais sponsor, then bpb parts? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20070712/cd5b4b8f/attachment.html From bjones at pipecomp.com.au Thu Jul 12 07:54:54 2007 From: bjones at pipecomp.com.au (Ben Jones) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:54:54 +0800 Subject: [simpits-tech] Updates... References: Message-ID: <076A0894BF415549916A7ABE580A1A1DFCA4@jupiter.universe.pipecomp.com.au> Thats what i see, a small "ads by google" banner below the f15 gene buckle title Ben Oz > The only sponsor banner is a small Google ad below the main F-15C banner. Is that what you're referring to? g. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 3078 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20070712/1df3e885/attachment.bin From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Jul 12 08:44:21 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 08:44:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Updates... In-Reply-To: <39e5de8d0707120751p3db767e0wd91e72c799f1e7b3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 12 Jul 2007, Ido Dekkers wrote: > i see an alternating banner, the long f15 one, then it sais sponsor, then > bpb parts? > Are you referring to the simpits.org site? If so, don't worry about it. It'll get fixed as soon as my office is cool enough to work in without sweat shorting out the keyboard. :) (it was 102 here yesterday, 86 in my office at home) The missing banner was from Project Magenta. Enrico still hasn't provided me a replacement, but Prohm included one in the new pages he sent me. g. -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From Inventmd at aol.com Fri Jul 13 06:32:22 2007 From: Inventmd at aol.com (Inventmd at aol.com) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 09:32:22 EDT Subject: [simpits-tech] 4 way switches Message-ID: There are some obviously very talented people in this group with a lot of information. Let me throw this out at you all. As some of you know, we are in the business of making professional grade grips for the military. The switches that we deal with are outrageously expensive. Specifically, there is the radar cursor switch on the throttle of the F-16 that costs $2000. Basically, it is a four-way switch that has a push down button functionality. The military does not like the radar cursor switch on the cougar throttle because the spring mechanism is too light (the real one is much stiffer) and the push down function does not have enough throw (the real one pushes down at least 2.2 mm). The real switch is made by Mason -- who charges $7,000 for quantities of one and $2000 for quantities of 10 -- just for the radar cursor switch alone. Here is the question: does anyone know where to get a reasonable facsimile of this switch or have any idea how to build one or have any idea how to modify existing switches to get the desired feel that we need? The next most difficult switch is the Radar range on the throttle which has a rotary potentiometer with a push down function?. The other difficult switches are the small four-way switches such as the UHF/VHF, CMDS, etc? If reasonable switch prices were obtainable, it would be a great service to the Viper pit community as it may bring the realistic flight grip and throttle for price range that is affordable. Please send me private e-mail to inventMD at aol.com if you have a solution for me.. Thanks, John ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20070713/76691d3c/attachment-0001.html From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Fri Jul 13 20:41:15 2007 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 20:41:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Simpits-tech Digest, Vol 47, Issue 1 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <125099.17130.qm@web52002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Im glad to hear Prohm is still around. I hope his music is doing well. I didnt notice any difference on the simpits site. FYI, I leave in the morning to pick up the F-4J sim now that it is paid for!!! Justin > > > >First off, for those old timers that have been on > the list forever, our > intrepid graphic artist Prohm has surfaced! > > For those that don't know him, he's the guy behind > all the Simpits logos > and badges. (He's also one hell of a musician!) > > He's sent me an update for the main Simpits page > which I'll get posted > tonight. He's also done a really great poster image > for PhanCon! > > Second, the F-15 sim site has been updated, this > time it's _only_ about > the F-15. :) > > ttyl! > > g. > Aviation Videos http://HeritageAviationVideos.fly.to/ DC-8 Simulator www.dc8cockpit.catisp.com F-4 Simulators www.Phantom.highspeedzone.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Jul 13 22:48:52 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 22:48:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Simpits-tech Digest, Vol 47, Issue 1 In-Reply-To: <125099.17130.qm@web52002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > Im glad to hear Prohm is still around. I hope his > music is doing well. > > I didnt notice any difference on the simpits site. > > FYI, I leave in the morning to pick up the F-4J sim > now that it is paid for!!! I'm just getting to it right now. Office temp has been WAY too high. Congrats on the sim! Pics! Pics! :) g. -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Jul 13 23:48:04 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 23:48:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Site updated! Message-ID: Ok, Prohm's new goodies are up online at the main Simpits site. He's done his usual amazing job on the artwork. Fantastic stuff! The new PhanCon ad looks really nice too! g. -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil Mon Jul 16 10:00:40 2007 From: bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil (Brian Sikkema) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 13:00:40 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] EECH Update info Message-ID: <7fc8cff1a29f47a5ac46972d5f136924.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> For all you hoopalopter types, some interesting developments in the last couple versions of the third-party updates to Enemy Engaged:Commanche vs. Hokum: "1.8.6 Export also the upfront display/ekran data to shared memory (fix by Retro). 1.8.5 Added shared memory export of flight data (thanks to Retro)" This is a REALLY fun game, and the source code has been released by Razorworks (hence some of the GREAT community work that has been going on). Would make for a really fun sim. Think about it... wraparound graphics with a working HMS system... *drool* Even better would be a full-up two-person sim for some real crew action. That would be pretty sweet. ;) http://www.eechcentral.com/ Brian From frank at rezultat.dk Mon Jul 16 10:48:17 2007 From: frank at rezultat.dk (Frank Riedel) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 19:48:17 +0200 Subject: [simpits-tech] EECH Update info In-Reply-To: <7fc8cff1a29f47a5ac46972d5f136924.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> Message-ID: <000601c7c7d1$7e4c4b50$0601a8c0@Franks> Hi Brian ! Is there any memreaders for controlling the light of this sim ?? How is the MFDs spilt out on different TFTs ? Is it possible to use MatroxTripleHead2Go for OTW 180dg ?? Regards Frank -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] P? vegne af Brian Sikkema Sendt: 16. juli 2007 19:01 Til: simpits-tech at simpits.org Emne: [simpits-tech] EECH Update info For all you hoopalopter types, some interesting developments in the last couple versions of the third-party updates to Enemy Engaged:Commanche vs. Hokum: "1.8.6 Export also the upfront display/ekran data to shared memory (fix by Retro). 1.8.5 Added shared memory export of flight data (thanks to Retro)" This is a REALLY fun game, and the source code has been released by Razorworks (hence some of the GREAT community work that has been going on). Would make for a really fun sim. Think about it... wraparound graphics with a working HMS system... *drool* Even better would be a full-up two-person sim for some real crew action. That would be pretty sweet. ;) http://www.eechcentral.com/ Brian _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From bjones at pipecomp.com.au Fri Jul 20 06:46:39 2007 From: bjones at pipecomp.com.au (Ben Jones) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 22:46:39 +0900 Subject: [simpits-tech] F16 taxiing behind a B1 Message-ID: <002a01c7cad4$67476c40$3c00a8c0@bjblackbox> I get the idea no one on the airfield actually saw this F16 Lawndart tip over , not even the camera man Ben Subject: [Aus-soaring] F16 taxiing behind a B1 > Oops: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fWoqa5nGmk From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Jul 20 09:02:52 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 09:02:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] F16 taxiing behind a B1 In-Reply-To: <002a01c7cad4$67476c40$3c00a8c0@bjblackbox> Message-ID: > I get the idea no one on the airfield actually saw this F16 Lawndart tip > over , not even the camera man > That just cracks me up! It's like the guy never even noticed that the F-16 was resting on a wingtip. Talk about Bone Focus. :) I'd love to hear the conversation between the pilot and the tower.... g. -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Jul 20 09:21:25 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 09:21:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] C-130 nose available... Message-ID: http://www.simpits.org/~geneb/c130/c1301.jpg http://www.simpits.org/~geneb/c130/c1302.jpg http://www.simpits.org/~geneb/c130/c1303.jpg The owner wants $6500 for this. The guy that asked me to post this also thinks he can find seats, etc. for it. If you're interested, please contact me off-list. thanks! g. -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From cyplesma at aol.com Fri Jul 20 09:51:16 2007 From: cyplesma at aol.com (cyplesma at aol.com) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 12:51:16 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] C-130 nose available... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8C9990552EDB3C9-46C-3900@FWM-M28.sysops.aol.com> might get 20.00 for all that copper wire -----Original Message----- From: Gene Buckle To: simpits-tech at simpits.org Sent: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 12:21 pm Subject: [simpits-tech] C-130 nose available... http://www.simpits.org/~geneb/c130/c1301.jpg http://www.simpits.org/~geneb/c130/c1302.jpg http://www.simpits.org/~geneb/c130/c1303.jpg The owner wants $6500 for this. The guy that asked me to post this also thinks he can find seats, etc. for it. If you're interested, please contact me off-list. thanks! g. -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20070720/393bedef/attachment.html From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Fri Jul 20 18:23:08 2007 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 02:23:08 +0100 (BST) Subject: [simpits-tech] C-130 nose available... In-Reply-To: <8C9990552EDB3C9-46C-3900@FWM-M28.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 cyplesma at aol.com wrote: > The owner wants $6500 for this. The guy that asked me to post this also > thinks he can find seats, etc. for it. > > If you're interested, please contact me off-list. If the postage wasn't higher than the purchase price.... *sigh* -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From surfer.man at free.fr Sat Jul 21 06:11:50 2007 From: surfer.man at free.fr (Jean-Yves JOUANNY) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 15:11:50 +0200 Subject: [simpits-tech] EBAY part In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00aa01c7cb98$b3e14160$1ba3c420$@man@free.fr> Hi guys For your information, http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HOTAS-F-16-F16-GENERAL-DYNAMICS-FORCE-TRANSDU CER-RARE_W0QQitemZ120144072006QQihZ002QQcategoryZ26439QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ 1QQcmdZViewItem it's the first time i see it on ebay it's a f-16 stik base (transducer) see u, Jean-Yves From idekkers at gmail.com Sat Jul 21 06:44:13 2007 From: idekkers at gmail.com (Ido Dekkers) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 16:44:13 +0300 Subject: [simpits-tech] EBAY part In-Reply-To: <2930556997410386161@unknownmsgid> References: <2930556997410386161@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <39e5de8d0707210644q482a2367qa4e285cad02cf596@mail.gmail.com> they come up from time to time, do mind it's and A model and if you'll want to use it with a C model stick you'll have to replace the connector and the wiring inside. Ido On 7/21/07, Jean-Yves JOUANNY wrote: > > Hi guys > > For your information, > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HOTAS-F-16-F16-GENERAL-DYNAMICS-FORCE-TRANSDU > > CER-RARE_W0QQitemZ120144072006QQihZ002QQcategoryZ26439QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ > 1QQcmdZViewItem > > it's the first time i see it on ebay > it's a f-16 stik base (transducer) > > see u, > Jean-Yves > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20070721/2edee04d/attachment-0001.html From allendc at qwest.net Sun Jul 22 15:25:01 2007 From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 16:25:01 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Instrument counter digits In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20070722222508.4679322DD56@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> Hi Gene Look at http://www.whiteedc.com/counters.html I took apart a fuel instrument and it had a 0 to 100 percent mechanical counter made by the above company. David From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Jul 23 08:59:06 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 08:59:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] Instrument counter digits In-Reply-To: <20070722222508.4679322DD56@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: On Sun, 22 Jul 2007, David C. Allen wrote: > Hi Gene > Look at > > http://www.whiteedc.com/counters.html > > I took apart a fuel instrument and it had a 0 to 100 percent > mechanical counter made by the above company. > I don't think that the air-core motors will be strong enough to drive those. g. -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From allendc at qwest.net Mon Jul 23 17:20:30 2007 From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:20:30 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] 737 sim elevator control design Message-ID: <20070724002040.B41CC53BCE1@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net> Hello Everyone Here is a 737 sim elevator control design that uses a basic cam and follower centering system. This is a general outline of how the simple system is changed to evolve to a more complex and dynamic system that will actually move the control column during autoflight. Step 1, the basic cam and follower system. A VW Steering damper is used to dampen large changes in control column position. http://www.737flightsim.com/Misc/SimpleElev_Center_Position1e1.pdf This image is the same as the one above, but the cam and follower neutral position is rotated 90 degrees. http://www.737flightsim.com/Misc/SimpleElev_Center_Position1e2.pdf An electric linear actuator is added to replace the spring to frame attachment point. This electric linear actuator is a low speed high torque actuator . The linear actuator allows the dynamic adjustment of the spring force on the follower which increases or decreases the forces trying to center the cam, which centers the control column. http://www.737flightsim.com/Misc/SimpleElev_Center_Position1e3.pdf This shows the electric linear actuator in the retracted position, the centering forces on the control column will be at their highest with the electric linear actuator in this position. http://www.737flightsim.com/Misc/SimpleElev_Center_Position1e4.pdf A mounting support is added for the cam follower and the feel pressure linear actuator. This allows the follower and electric linear actuator to rotate around the cam axis. in this image it is attaches to a frame mounting point to keep it from rotating. http://www.737flightsim.com/Misc/SimpleElev_Center_Position1e5.pdf The neutral shift electric linear actuator is added, replacing the frame mounting point of mounting support. The linear actuator controls the rotation of the mounting support around the cam axis. This allows the neutral position of the control column to be shifted forward or aft. The neutral shift electric linear actuator is controlled by a PWM motor speed controller. This electric linear actuator is a "high speed" device that is operated at a reduces speed for manual stabilizer trimming. http://www.737flightsim.com/Misc/SimpleElev_Center_Position1e6.pdf The neutral shift linear actuator is shown in the nose down, neutral and nose up positions. This linear actuator can be controlled by the auto pilot and the control column will move in the proper direction, and the pilot can always over-ride the autopilot! http://www.737flightsim.com/Misc/SimpleElev_Center_Position1e7.pdf Control column travel stops added to prevent cam over-travel. http://www.737flightsim.com/Misc/SimpleElev_Center_Position1e8.pdf The proposed system accomplishes the following: A) Dynamic feel based on airspeed and system A & B hydraulic system pressure. B) Neutral control column shift for stabilizer trim position C) Auto-pilot control column movement, with pilot over-ride D) Control column neutral position that can dynamically be re-positioned E) The cam can be made "Non-Symmetrical" so the nose up force can be less than the nose down force. F) The neutral shift electric linear actuator speed is controlled by a PWM motor speed controller. Thoughts ? David www.737FlightSim.com From francisco at picornell.net Mon Jul 30 07:42:11 2007 From: francisco at picornell.net (Francisco Picornell) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 10:42:11 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] DLP Projector Image Issue In-Reply-To: References: <20070722222508.4679322DD56@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: <002101c7d2b7$cff3d4a0$0402a8c0@awacsmain> I am using a Sharp XR-10X projector to project my front view and I have it as far back as possible and the image is just not as large as I wanted. Can I make some sort of magnifier lens to enlarge the image (all I need is an image 25% larger). Kiko From cyplesma at aol.com Mon Jul 30 08:47:13 2007 From: cyplesma at aol.com (cyplesma at aol.com) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 11:47:13 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] DLP Projector Image Issue In-Reply-To: <002101c7d2b7$cff3d4a0$0402a8c0@awacsmain> References: <20070722222508.4679322DD56@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> <002101c7d2b7$cff3d4a0$0402a8c0@awacsmain> Message-ID: <8C9A0D8080AD94B-A38-44E1@FWM-D27.sysops.aol.com> easy part is getting the magnifying glass, hard part is mounting at the right point. -----Original Message----- From: Francisco Picornell To: 'Simulator Cockpit tech list' Sent: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 10:42 am Subject: [simpits-tech] DLP Projector Image Issue I am using a Sharp XR-10X projector to project my front view and I have it as far back as possible and the image is just not as large as I wanted. Can I make some sort of magnifier lens to enlarge the image (all I need is an image 25% larger). Kiko _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20070730/b609d641/attachment.html From snar5 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 30 08:53:46 2007 From: snar5 at yahoo.com (snar5 at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 08:53:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] DLP Projector Image Issue Message-ID: <434041.48941.qm@web60519.mail.yahoo.com> For whats its worth. I had a space issue with my projector as well. I ended up using a mirror to get the correct size. I don't konw if something like that will work for you. ----- Original Message ---- From: Francisco Picornell To: Simulator Cockpit tech list Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 10:42:11 AM Subject: [simpits-tech] DLP Projector Image Issue I am using a Sharp XR-10X projector to project my front view and I have it as far back as possible and the image is just not as large as I wanted. Can I make some sort of magnifier lens to enlarge the image (all I need is an image 25% larger). Kiko _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/index.php From francisco at picornell.net Mon Jul 30 09:00:07 2007 From: francisco at picornell.net (Francisco Picornell) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:00:07 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] DLP Projector Image Issue In-Reply-To: <434041.48941.qm@web60519.mail.yahoo.com> References: <434041.48941.qm@web60519.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003601c7d2c2$b312f180$0402a8c0@awacsmain> The mirror option is one I am considering. That configuration has one benefit in that it does not flood the rest of the room with light. The projector faces the mirror which reflects the image to a screen or did you use another mirror? -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of snar5 at yahoo.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 11:54 AM To: Simulator Cockpit tech list Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] DLP Projector Image Issue For whats its worth. I had a space issue with my projector as well. I ended up using a mirror to get the correct size. I don't konw if something like that will work for you. ----- Original Message ---- From: Francisco Picornell To: Simulator Cockpit tech list Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 10:42:11 AM Subject: [simpits-tech] DLP Projector Image Issue I am using a Sharp XR-10X projector to project my front view and I have it as far back as possible and the image is just not as large as I wanted. Can I make some sort of magnifier lens to enlarge the image (all I need is an image 25% larger). Kiko _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/index.php _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Jul 30 09:14:52 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 09:14:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] DLP Projector Image Issue In-Reply-To: <002101c7d2b7$cff3d4a0$0402a8c0@awacsmain> Message-ID: > I am using a Sharp XR-10X projector to project my front view and I have it > as far back as possible and the image is just not as large as I wanted. Can > I make some sort of magnifier lens to enlarge the image (all I need is an > image 25% larger). > Kiko, you should use rear projection. You can configure your projector to mirror the image and then project against a translucent screen like a 200 thread count bedsheet. Rob and I did some experiments with this with great success. One of the test screens we built gave a 5' high by 10' wide image, 2' away from the eye point. HUGE difference. :) g. -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From francisco at picornell.net Mon Jul 30 09:24:14 2007 From: francisco at picornell.net (Francisco Picornell) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:24:14 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] DLP Projector Image Issue In-Reply-To: References: <002101c7d2b7$cff3d4a0$0402a8c0@awacsmain> Message-ID: <003701c7d2c6$11b6f8f0$0402a8c0@awacsmain> Room (one car garage) is 14' long (from screen to rear wall). The sim (F-111 fixed base trainer) is 8' long. Crew seating to screen is about 7.5'. The space behind the screen is maybe 2'. I'm just boxed in. I built a wall screen and ideally looking for an image that is 10' to 11' wide. I originally had two 800X600 projectors which worked great except the 1600X600 resolution caused some visual anomalies (floating buildings) using Falcon 4 so I went with a single 1024X768 projector. The projector is currently about 13'(back wall) from the screen and although great quality it is about 25% smaller than I would like. Does the mirror have any magnifying qualities or is that handled by varying the distance between the project, mirror and screen? Can you get a mirror with larger magnifying qualities to I can lessen the distance between the components? Kiko PS If I get the 1024X768 setup to work, I will have two 800X600 LCD projectors that will be looking for a home (at an attractive price). -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Gene Buckle Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 12:15 PM To: Simulator Cockpit tech list Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] DLP Projector Image Issue > I am using a Sharp XR-10X projector to project my front view and I have it > as far back as possible and the image is just not as large as I wanted. Can > I make some sort of magnifier lens to enlarge the image (all I need is an > image 25% larger). > Kiko, you should use rear projection. You can configure your projector to mirror the image and then project against a translucent screen like a 200 thread count bedsheet. Rob and I did some experiments with this with great success. One of the test screens we built gave a 5' high by 10' wide image, 2' away from the eye point. HUGE difference. :) g. -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Jul 30 11:24:21 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 11:24:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] DLP Projector Image Issue In-Reply-To: <003701c7d2c6$11b6f8f0$0402a8c0@awacsmain> Message-ID: > 13'(back wall) from the screen and although great quality it is about 25% > smaller than I would like. > Hrm. Could you draw up a top-down view of the room to help give an idea of what the exact layout is? g. -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From rhommel at mad.scientist.com Mon Jul 30 13:52:15 2007 From: rhommel at mad.scientist.com (Rob Hommel) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:52:15 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] DLP Projector Image Issue Message-ID: <20070730205215.18F761F50B1@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> Fransisco: The advantage of using a mirror is that the mirror will allow you to use a shorter distance to get a longer total distance. if your image is too small given the distance from projector to image try using a mirror. There are some problems inherent to using a mirror but they can all be mitigated. Every projection system has problems, optical systems in general are an exercise in compromises. Lets look at the system you are using first. Simple projection The image is going to be dependent upon two factors the distance from the projector and the lens size times the focal length these two factors are what determines the size of the image. The focal length is what is referred to as the "f ratio". For example a twenty millimeter lens times a "f ratio of 150 gives a focal length of 300 mm. I need a much longer distance than that you say, well the image maybe in focus at various distance according to the square of the distance there is however a loss of light at these distances this is what is referred to as the chi square law. The image is enlarged The square of the area and the light lost is diminished. Lets say that you are using a 1000 lumen lamp at three feet hypothetically ( you get the total 1000 lumens), the available light at nine feet would be the the square root of 1000 lumen's. This equates to about 31.6 lumen's that is why you need a darker room and the greatest amount of light being projected from your projector. Remember the larger the number of lumen projector the brighter your image at a given distance. This says, if you are using front or back projection the larger the image the less total light per square foot of area. The only way to get a larger projection is too move the projector further away from the projected image or change the lens on the projector. Rear Projection Rear projection is the same thing the difference is that if you transmit light through a surface again there will be a loss of light as some of the light will be lost through reflection from the surface of your screen. Gene and I used a bed sheet to project through, alternatives to this could be a sheet of glass that has been prepared to act as a rear projection screen. Lapping a large sheet of plate glass with valve grinding compound might produce a superior surface the constraint would be how much time does it take to produce a surface that is 10 foot square. This will allow for a greater amount of the total light to be used than a bed sheet. The glass is much heavier than a bed sheet, another compromise. We have not found a plastic that transmits enough light to be usable at this time. That does not mean such a plastic surface does not exist we has simply not found one that is affordable. Television rear projection systems do make use of a plastic material to satisfy this need. The "Need for Speed" driving sim we built a few years ago uses just such a projection screen obtained from a salvaged rear projection television set. We built that sim in one day I might add. The 3X5 screen sits about 8 feet from the projector while in the television set the manufacture used a folded mirror system to get a longer focal length from a shorter distance. The use of a folded mirror system means the image will be distorted "trapezoidal" which you may correct for easily enough should you desire to use such a system. Again the amount of light will be dependent upon the distance from the projector and the projection surface. Fresnel lens Commercial flight sims use a monitor and fresnel lens system which means that you must place your head(eye)at the focal point of the fresnel lens. This gives the illusion of depth in the simulator while making minimal space used in the simulator and in focus. The monitors used are overdriven to increase the amount of light projected on the surface of the fresnel lens. While this shortens the life time of the monitor the projected image is bright. Remember the chi square law still applies to this system as well. This system makes use of the least amount of space possible there are further trade offs. The trade offs are as follows, The pixal size is increased by the amount of enlargement this may mean large blocks, color distortion, fresnel lenses are typically a spherical lens system not all colors are at focus at a single plane. The last factor is what is called coma, coma means that the image maybe distorted at the edge of the lens. The coma is typically not much of a problem on commercial systems as they will use a fresnel lens system that ignores the edge of the lens. Think large lens with the edges cut off. A fresnel lens is just a flat lens. There are further compromises to make when specifying a fresnel lens amount of light transmitted versus image. The more lines in the lens the greater the image the less light so fewer lines means more light. While this does not satisfy your question Fransisco I hope you learned a bit about optical systems. Keep 'em Flying Rob Hommel -- We've Got Your Name at http://www.mail.com! Get a FREE E-mail Account Today - Choose From 100+ Domains From pongprom at mac.com Tue Jul 31 04:57:42 2007 From: pongprom at mac.com (Pongprom) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:57:42 +0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] TFT LCD In-Reply-To: <8C9A0D8080AD94B-A38-44E1@FWM-D27.sysops.aol.com> References: <20070722222508.4679322DD56@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> <002101c7d2b7$cff3d4a0$0402a8c0@awacsmain> <8C9A0D8080AD94B-A38-44E1@FWM-D27.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <7379A8D8-8736-447D-8A89-B25345472226@mac.com> Hi Dear Fellow Simmers I have some question. I just bought TFT LCDs and going to use them in my pit. from what I thought in my common sense, it using power adapter that feed only 12V DC into it. But why the instruction manual told that this machine has the high pressure and it's danger. Is it convert 12v to high-voltage again somewhere ? yeah.. this is may be a silly question. but I don't know anything about it and want to make sure that i will not hurt myself. Anyone know where can I find 5" x 5" TFT module ? Thanks -Prohm- PS. Hello Justin.. How are you ? From idekkers at gmail.com Tue Jul 31 05:12:00 2007 From: idekkers at gmail.com (Ido Dekkers) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 14:12:00 +0200 Subject: [simpits-tech] TFT LCD In-Reply-To: <7379A8D8-8736-447D-8A89-B25345472226@mac.com> References: <20070722222508.4679322DD56@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> <002101c7d2b7$cff3d4a0$0402a8c0@awacsmain> <8C9A0D8080AD94B-A38-44E1@FWM-D27.sysops.aol.com> <7379A8D8-8736-447D-8A89-B25345472226@mac.com> Message-ID: <39e5de8d0707310512vfb012c5s899592e70fb279bf@mail.gmail.com> i don't think you can find square TFT's anywhere - only on special order as for the voltage - sorry, can't help you with that Ido -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20070731/d13bb6a5/attachment.html From pongprom at mac.com Tue Jul 31 05:16:37 2007 From: pongprom at mac.com (Pongprom) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 19:16:37 +0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] TFT LCD In-Reply-To: <39e5de8d0707310512vfb012c5s899592e70fb279bf@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070722222508.4679322DD56@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> <002101c7d2b7$cff3d4a0$0402a8c0@awacsmain> <8C9A0D8080AD94B-A38-44E1@FWM-D27.sysops.aol.com> <7379A8D8-8736-447D-8A89-B25345472226@mac.com> <39e5de8d0707310512vfb012c5s899592e70fb279bf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Yeah... I can smell that, I already have 3 TFTs here, but because they're not square so I will put them behind the mask under my panel. This make them deeper than I want, but that's alright, if this is the only solution I have. Thanks -Prohm On Jul 31, 2550 BE, at 7:12 PM, Ido Dekkers wrote: > i don't think you can find square TFT's anywhere - only on special > order > > as for the voltage - sorry, can't help you with that > > Ido > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the > above page. Thanks! From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Jul 31 07:02:34 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 07:02:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] TFT LCD In-Reply-To: <7379A8D8-8736-447D-8A89-B25345472226@mac.com> Message-ID: > I just bought TFT LCDs and going to use them in my pit. > from what I thought in my common sense, it using power adapter that > feed only 12V DC into it. > But why the instruction manual told that this machine has the high > pressure and it's danger. > Is it convert 12v to high-voltage again somewhere ? yeah.. this is > may be a silly question. > but I don't know anything about it and want to make sure that i will > not hurt myself. > Prohm, the high voltage they are referring to my have something to do with the power supply that's part of the display and used to drive the back-light. > Anyone know where can I find 5" x 5" TFT module ? > Those are very hard to find - in fact I've yet to find one that is available off the shelf. g. -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From cyplesma at aol.com Tue Jul 31 06:56:41 2007 From: cyplesma at aol.com (cyplesma at aol.com) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 09:56:41 -0400 Subject: [simpits-tech] TFT LCD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8C9A191C1C382D7-DE4-31FE@mblk-d12.sysops.aol.com> if it is a backlight HV unit you need you really need to find out what kind of voltages you need also. maybe try the same company you got the tft screen from and see if they have the hv unit for it. -----Original Message----- From: Gene Buckle To: Simulator Cockpit tech list Sent: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 10:02 am Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] TFT LCD > I just bought TFT LCDs and going to use them in my pit. > from what I thought in my common sense, it using power adapter that > feed only 12V DC into it. > But why the instruction manual told that this machine has the high > pressure and it's danger. > Is it convert 12v to high-voltage again somewhere ? yeah.. this is > may be a silly question. > but I don't know anything about it and want to make sure that i will > not hurt myself. > Prohm, the high voltage they are referring to my have something to do with the power supply that's part of the display and used to drive the back-light. > Anyone know where can I find 5" x 5" TFT module ? > Those are very hard to find - in fact I've yet to find one that is available off the shelf. g. -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20070731/3440d766/attachment.html From frank at rezultat.dk Tue Jul 31 07:55:11 2007 From: frank at rezultat.dk (Frank Riedel) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:55:11 +0200 Subject: [simpits-tech] TFT LCD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002901c7d382$cb765e90$0601a8c0@Franks> Hi All ! I have read some place on the net, it is possible to cut the LCD in square part... perhaps it can help. Frank -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] P? vegne af Pongprom Sendt: 31. juli 2007 14:17 Til: Simulator Cockpit tech list Emne: [Spam] Re: [simpits-tech] TFT LCD Yeah... I can smell that, I already have 3 TFTs here, but because they're not square so I will put them behind the mask under my panel. This make them deeper than I want, but that's alright, if this is the only solution I have. Thanks -Prohm On Jul 31, 2550 BE, at 7:12 PM, Ido Dekkers wrote: > i don't think you can find square TFT's anywhere - only on special > order > > as for the voltage - sorry, can't help you with that > > Ido > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the > above page. 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From idekkers at gmail.com Tue Jul 31 10:13:37 2007 From: idekkers at gmail.com (Ido Dekkers) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 20:13:37 +0300 Subject: [simpits-tech] TFT LCD In-Reply-To: <002901c7d382$cb765e90$0601a8c0@Franks> References: <002901c7d382$cb765e90$0601a8c0@Franks> Message-ID: <39e5de8d0707311013j32b1c306j7f8ecb6cfb03c38c@mail.gmail.com> it is possible to cut an LCD - but it's a lot of money (a few thousands euro for 2 screens) something like that Ido On 7/31/07, Frank Riedel wrote: > > Hi All ! > I have read some place on the net, it is possible to cut the LCD in square > part... perhaps it can help. > > Frank > > > -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > Fra: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org > [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] P? vegne af Pongprom > Sendt: 31. juli 2007 14:17 > Til: Simulator Cockpit tech list > Emne: [Spam] Re: [simpits-tech] TFT LCD > > Yeah... I can smell that, > I already have 3 TFTs here, but because they're not square so I will > put them behind the mask under my panel. > This make them deeper than I want, but that's alright, if this is the > only solution I have. > Thanks > > -Prohm > > > On Jul 31, 2550 BE, at 7:12 PM, Ido Dekkers wrote: > > > i don't think you can find square TFT's anywhere - only on special > > order > > > > as for the voltage - sorry, can't help you with that > > > > Ido > > _______________________________________________ > > Simpits-tech mailing list > > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the > > above page. 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URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20070731/c52bfb9e/attachment-0001.html From pongprom at mac.com Tue Jul 31 11:18:41 2007 From: pongprom at mac.com (Pongprom) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 01:18:41 +0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] TFT LCD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >> > Prohm, the high voltage they are referring to my have something to > do with > the power supply that's part of the display and used to drive the > back-light. Thanks Gene I hope that will not killing me, In my little brain is just wondering how 12vDc can convert back to higher enough to hurt me. But I saw my friend have some kind of converter that using his car power but can produce 220v for him. I will be careful for this anyway. > Those are very hard to find - in fact I've yet to find one that is > available off the shelf. > > sniff... From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Jul 31 11:59:42 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 11:59:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [simpits-tech] TFT LCD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Thanks Gene > > I hope that will not killing me, > In my little brain is just wondering how 12vDc can convert back to > higher enough to hurt me. > But I saw my friend have some kind of converter that using his car > power but can produce 220v for him. > I will be careful for this anyway. > You can easily convert 12v to 10,000v. Most of those displays are shielded in such a way that it's pretty difficult to come into contact with the high-voltage sections under normal handling conditions. g. -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.