From jjmessenger at yahoo.com  Mon Jan  1 16:58:31 2007
From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger)
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 16:58:31 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] sim-boards
In-Reply-To: <B0010460520@aristote2.infomaniak.ch>
Message-ID: <45234.88942.qm@web52010.mail.yahoo.com>

has anyone here used the Output Modules at
http://www.flightdecktechnology.com?

I am interested in using them for my own 7-segment
displays and wonder what their programming software is
like since software is not my cup of tea. 

Thanks

Justin

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From bjones at pipecomp.com.au  Tue Jan  2 00:26:17 2007
From: bjones at pipecomp.com.au (Ben Jones)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 17:26:17 +0900
Subject: [simpits-tech] sim-boards
References: <45234.88942.qm@web52010.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <003d01c72e47$acd626e0$3d00a8c0@bjblackbox>

Justin,

When i was at school, programming was not my cup of tea, i switched to 
coffee and it all got better

Ben

Sorry i have never seen them so i am useless in giving you an answer.


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From: "Justin Messenger" <jjmessenger at yahoo.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 9:58 AM
Subject: [simpits-tech] sim-boards


> has anyone here used the Output Modules at
> http://www.flightdecktechnology.com?
>
> I am interested in using them for my own 7-segment
> displays and wonder what their programming software is
> like since software is not my cup of tea.
>
> Thanks
>
> Justin
>
> Douglas DC-8
>  www.dc8cockpit.catisp.com
>        See a free video preview at
>  http://www.dc8cockpit.catisp.com/dc_8_promom.wmv
>
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From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Tue Jan  2 04:11:04 2007
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 12:11:04 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] sim-boards
In-Reply-To: <45234.88942.qm@web52010.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0701021208390.17464-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Mon, 1 Jan 2007, Justin Messenger wrote:

> has anyone here used the Output Modules at
> http://www.flightdecktechnology.com?
>
> I am interested in using them for my own 7-segment
> displays and wonder what their programming software is
> like since software is not my cup of tea.

co-incidence!

I'm about to investigate these myself. They've been recommended to me by a
guy I know here in the UK with a Hawker Hawk cockpit sim. He tells me
these boards are the dogs kahunas.

Roy.

--

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Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
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From mi.hi at gmx.net  Tue Jan  2 04:33:03 2007
From: mi.hi at gmx.net (Michael Hirczy)
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 13:33:03 +0100
Subject: [simpits-tech] sim-boards
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0701021208390.17464-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0701021208390.17464-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <459A50FF.4040709@gmx.net>

Have you checked
http://www.opencockpits.com/
yet?

I have the MasterCard, USBExpansion and 2 Display-II-Cards (for 32 
7-segment displays) and they are great!
MasterCard, USBExpansion and 1 Display-II Card would be EUR 130,- 
(completely assembled, you could go the DIY-route and just order the 
mounting kits)

greetings
michi

Roy Coates schrieb:
> On Mon, 1 Jan 2007, Justin Messenger wrote:
> 
>> has anyone here used the Output Modules at
>> http://www.flightdecktechnology.com?
>>
>> I am interested in using them for my own 7-segment
>> displays and wonder what their programming software is
>> like since software is not my cup of tea.
> 
> co-incidence!
> 
> I'm about to investigate these myself. They've been recommended to me by a
> guy I know here in the UK with a Hawker Hawk cockpit sim. He tells me
> these boards are the dogs kahunas.
> 
> Roy.
> 
> --
> 
> Roy Coates.
> Dept of Engineering.
> Liverpool University.
> E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
> Tel: 0151 794 4862
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From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Tue Jan  2 05:48:56 2007
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 13:48:56 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] sim-boards
In-Reply-To: <459A50FF.4040709@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0701021348260.17464-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Tue, 2 Jan 2007, Michael Hirczy wrote:

> Have you checked
> http://www.opencockpits.com/
> yet?
>
> I have the MasterCard, USBExpansion and 2 Display-II-Cards (for 32
> 7-segment displays) and they are great!
> MasterCard, USBExpansion and 1 Display-II Card would be EUR 130,-
> (completely assembled, you could go the DIY-route and just order the
> mounting kits)
>

Very many thanks Michi... these look very interesting!

Prices are pretty darned good too!

Roy.

--

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Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
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From jjmessenger at yahoo.com  Tue Jan  2 09:31:38 2007
From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 09:31:38 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Website update
In-Reply-To: <B0010460520@aristote2.infomaniak.ch>
Message-ID: <294346.46719.qm@web52013.mail.yahoo.com>

I uploaded some 2006 DC-8 pics.
http://dc8cockpit.catisp.com/index_008.htm


Justin




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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Tue Jan  2 13:49:29 2007
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 13:49:29 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Website update
In-Reply-To: <294346.46719.qm@web52013.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701021349050.52197-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>

> I uploaded some 2006 DC-8 pics.
> http://dc8cockpit.catisp.com/index_008.htm
>
Justin, is the cockpit still outside?

Nice update!

g.

-- 
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Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.


From jjmessenger at yahoo.com  Wed Jan  3 08:06:01 2007
From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 08:06:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Website update?
In-Reply-To: <B0010460520@aristote2.infomaniak.ch>
Message-ID: <172212.38446.qm@web52002.mail.yahoo.com>

Yep, still outside. Im going to upload a video clip of
it soon.

Justin

> I uploaded some 2006 DC-8 pics.
> http://dc8cockpit.catisp.com/index_008.htm
>
>Justin, is the cockpit still outside?
>
>Nice update!
>
>g.
>
>-- 
>"I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!"

>Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
>http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.



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From allendc at qwest.net  Wed Jan  3 15:17:27 2007
From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen)
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 16:17:27 -0700
Subject: [simpits-tech] MSFS Visuals
Message-ID: <20070103231734.29EC222DCC6@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net>

Hello, Hope everyone had a happy holiday season!

I have been doing more work trying to understand MSFS Visuals.
If I block off all of the windows except for the two forward 
windshields then I have the following viewing angles:

Pilot's angle to the left 34 degrees (View through Left forward Windshield)
Pilot's angle to the right 72 degrees (View through Right forward Windshield)

Copilot's angle to the left 34 degrees (View through Right forward Windshield)
Pilot's angle to the right 72 degrees (View through Left forward Windshield)

Both the Pilot and Copilot down angle cutoff is 15 degrees (Both 
Forward windshields)

So I have created an image of the 737's flight deck and the viewing 
angles of the pilot and copilot.

http://www.737flightsim.com/Misc/ViewHorz1-Model.jpg

Now if I take that information and make a 3d model I get the following:

http://www.737flightsim.com/Misc/ViewPointPart2E.jpg

The Black portion is the Runway
The White portion is the area of the runway that can NOT be seen from 
the flight deck forward windows. This is the 15 degree lower window 
cutoff angle.

The Purple lines represent the Pilot's left angle of 34 degrees 0 
degrees Straight ahead and the right 72 degree angle.

The Green lines represent the C0Pilot's right angle of 34 degrees 0 
degrees Straight ahead and the left 72 degree angle.

The two Orange lines would be hidden from view when the pilots & 
Copilots eye point are at the proper elevation.

http://www.737flightsim.com/Misc/ViewPointPart2E2.jpg

The above image is looking back at the flight deck from a point in 
space, you can see how the White portion is hiding the area of the 
runway that can NOT be seen from the flight deck forward windows.

This also shows the lines in 3d

http://www.737flightsim.com/Misc/ViewPointPart2E1.jpg

This image is perpendicular to the to the runway (90 degrees) and at 
the pilots eye point elevation. This also shows that the 34 and 72 
degree purple and green lines are at the same elevation as the pilots 
eye point elevation. The 0 degrees Straight ahead lines (green & 
purple) appear as dots. The two orange lines are hidden behind the 
straight ahead green & purple dots.

http://www.737flightsim.com/Misc/ViewPointPart2E3.jpg

This image is looking forward from the above and the right side of 
the flight deck.

The final phase will be to get some help from someone who knows how 
to do airport scenery and place the lines in a known locations and 
then experiment with MSFS visuals until all of the lines can be seen as dots.

Your Thoughts and ideas

David
www.737FlightSim.com


From jjmessenger at yahoo.com  Wed Jan  3 19:45:30 2007
From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 19:45:30 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] DC-8 update
In-Reply-To: <B0010460520@aristote2.infomaniak.ch>
Message-ID: <176605.22720.qm@web52006.mail.yahoo.com>


A video of the Christmas flights!!

http://dc8cockpit.catisp.com/index_027.htm

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From jjmessenger at yahoo.com  Thu Jan  4 09:01:33 2007
From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 09:01:33 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <B0010460520@aristote2.infomaniak.ch>
Message-ID: <895205.60231.qm@web52006.mail.yahoo.com>

Roy,
I certainly do!! I really like your overhead panel. 

Now I need to train someone to fly with me so I am not
just a flight instructor all the time :)

Justin



>>On Wed, 3 Jan 2007, Justin Messenger wrote:
>>
>>
>> A video of the Christmas flights!!
>>

>A fantastic old bird you've got there Justin, but
>you've some catching 
>up
>to do!!

http://jetstream-club.org/simulator/sim-med.wmv  
(6MB)
>
>or
>
http://jetstream-club.org/simulator/sim-high.wmv 
(13MB)
>
>
>Cheers,
>
>Roy.
>
--

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Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
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From adm.design at verizon.net  Sat Jan  6 08:01:58 2007
From: adm.design at verizon.net (Alan D. Mazurka)
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 11:01:58 -0500
Subject: [simpits-tech] MSFS Visuals
In-Reply-To: <20070103231734.29EC222DCC6@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net>
References: <20070103231734.29EC222DCC6@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net>
Message-ID: <6.1.0.6.0.20070106104636.01cec348@incoming.verizon.net>

hi, David

good up-front agonizing.

your modeling suggests discrete lines at the limit of visible areas. it's 
good to think about view "volumes" - the areas subtended by precisely the 
vectors you've plotted. it depends on how sexy your 3D program is.

also, unless you are going to develop a stereoscopic setup (and i'm still 
scratching my head on this one), the "vanishing point" (ie: where infinity 
lies)  remains on a single point on the screen.

in a side-by-side arrangement, this means that you either "set" infinity 
directly ahead of you (which doesn't work for the co-pilot), or you set it 
in the center - which doesn't work well for either of you.

i regularly fly with it in the center. only 1 visitor has spotted the 
problem. YES, this makes things very much like just flying with an 8-foot 
monitor. it would be a good experiment to move the eye the proper amount to 
the left or right (within the craft) & observe what happens. i've done this 
in train-sim with very good results.

as far as what (how much) you see out the window, i still set this somewhat 
subjectively. this is usually about .75 zoom - it just "feels" comfortable 
compared with real life.

i'll be curious about your actual results after your more serious work.

  - adm -

At 06:17 PM 1/3/2007, you wrote:
>Hello, Hope everyone had a happy holiday season!
>
>I have been doing more work trying to understand MSFS Visuals.
>If I block off all of the windows except for the two forward
>windshields then I have the following viewing angles:


----------

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Mazurka 
adm.design at verizon.net
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From allendc at qwest.net  Sat Jan  6 09:38:24 2007
From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen)
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 10:38:24 -0700
Subject: [simpits-tech] MSFS Visuals
In-Reply-To: <6.1.0.6.0.20070106104636.01cec348@incoming.verizon.net>
References: <20070103231734.29EC222DCC6@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net>
	<6.1.0.6.0.20070106104636.01cec348@incoming.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <20070106173831.9BBEC22DD22@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net>

Hi Alan
I am just using Autodesk Inventor
I added a few more images and corrected some, so that they are maybe 
easier to understand

Original image
http://www.737flightsim.com/Misc/ViewPointPart2E.jpg

Added image :
Removed the -15 degree cutoff so the whole runway can be seen
http://www.737flightsim.com/Misc/ViewPointPart2E0.jpg

Changed the Pilot and copilot eye points to spheres to try and better 
represent the pilots eye points
http://www.737flightsim.com/Misc/ViewPointPart2E1.jpg

Removed the -15 degree cutoff so the whole runway can be seen
http://www.737flightsim.com/Misc/ViewPointPart2E2A.jpg

This image has the -15 degree cutoff:
http://www.737flightsim.com/Misc/ViewPointPart2E2.jpg

In the 737 the pilots eye point is approximately 147 inches above and 
perpendicular to the runway surface. The distance between the pilot 
and copilot's eye point is 40 inches. From the pilots eye point the 
lower front windshield frames obscures (15 degree cutoff angle) 
approximately 549 inches of runway directly in front of the aircraft. 
The upper windshield cuts of the field of view at approximately 18 
degrees. So it becomes easy to define the area that the pilots can 
view, but it is unclear how to adjust MSFS to represent the same views.

My thoughts is to find group of people who know scenery design, and 
could implement special airports, like AB380 or B737-700. The 
airports would have an alignment area. I envision you putting the 
nose wheel on a mark and then adjusting the MSFS view until you have 
the proper eye height and field of view.

David


From sean.g at paradise.net.nz  Sat Jan  6 11:56:14 2007
From: sean.g at paradise.net.nz (Sean Galbraith)
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 08:56:14 +1300
Subject: [simpits-tech] MSFS Visuals
In-Reply-To: <20070106173831.9BBEC22DD22@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net>
References: <20070103231734.29EC222DCC6@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net>
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	<20070106173831.9BBEC22DD22@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net>
Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.0.20070107085416.01b41f30@paradise.net.nz>

At 06:38 a.m. 7/01/2007, you wrote:
>Hi Alan
>I am just using Autodesk Inventor
>I added a few more images and corrected some, so that they are maybe
>easier to understand

Since you use inventor... why not export as a DXF, then import it 
into Gmax, and then export it as a scenery object (using the FS9 
makemdl sdk) then you could position your aircraft behind it and have a look?

The other option would be to use your model (again) as a virtual 
cockpit, again the makemdl sdk explains how, then just switch to VC 
mode and experiment away :)

Sean


From allendc at qwest.net  Sat Jan  6 13:58:43 2007
From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen)
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 14:58:43 -0700
Subject: [simpits-tech] MSFS Visuals
In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20070107085416.01b41f30@paradise.net.nz>
References: <20070103231734.29EC222DCC6@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net>
	<6.1.0.6.0.20070106104636.01cec348@incoming.verizon.net>
	<20070106173831.9BBEC22DD22@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net>
	<7.0.0.16.0.20070107085416.01b41f30@paradise.net.nz>
Message-ID: <20070106220038.7933862D5BB@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net>

Hi Sean
I am an old dog and you know what they say about 
learning new tricks. But you make it sound simple 
and that is encouraging. I noticed "Autodesk will 
no longer offer Gmax? software as a stand-alone 
product" but they do offer a 30 day free trial of the replacement program.

David

At 08:56 AM 1/7/2007 +1300, you wrote:
>At 06:38 a.m. 7/01/2007, you wrote:
> >Hi Alan
> >I am just using Autodesk Inventor
> >I added a few more images and corrected some, so that they are maybe
> >easier to understand
>
>Since you use inventor... why not export as a DXF, then import it
>into Gmax, and then export it as a scenery object (using the FS9
>makemdl sdk) then you could position your aircraft behind it and have a look?
>
>The other option would be to use your model (again) as a virtual
>cockpit, again the makemdl sdk explains how, then just switch to VC
>mode and experiment away :)
>
>Sean
>
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From bjones at pipecomp.com.au  Sat Jan  6 21:23:41 2007
From: bjones at pipecomp.com.au (Ben Jones)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 14:23:41 +0900
Subject: [simpits-tech] F15 loses wing video
Message-ID: <002301c7321b$feb10bb0$3d00a8c0@bjblackbox>

Yeah ya all may have seen it already but  here it is

video    http://www.crapshot.com/f15-flies-on-one-wing.html

Interesting i think if my aircraft lost one of its wings its kiss your freckle goodby time.

Ben
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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Sun Jan  7 17:11:16 2007
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 17:11:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] F15 loses wing video
In-Reply-To: <002301c7321b$feb10bb0$3d00a8c0@bjblackbox>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701071710440.65446-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>

>
> video    http://www.crapshot.com/f15-flies-on-one-wing.html
>
> Interesting i think if my aircraft lost one of its wings its kiss your
> freckle goodby time.

Hehe.  Yeah.  The video is CGI, but the pics of the jet at the end of the
segment are real.

g.

-- 
"I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!"

Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.


From bjones at pipecomp.com.au  Mon Jan  8 02:21:24 2007
From: bjones at pipecomp.com.au (Ben Jones)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 19:21:24 +0900
Subject: [simpits-tech] F15 loses wing video
References: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701071710440.65446-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <000b01c7330e$c3754630$3d00a8c0@bjblackbox>

I thought so  the chances of having a mid air collision dogfighting and 
having all those cameras in the right places
were a little to good.


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To: "Simulator Cockpit tech list" <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
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Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] F15 loses wing video


> >
>> video    http://www.crapshot.com/f15-flies-on-one-wing.html
>>
>> Interesting i think if my aircraft lost one of its wings its kiss your
>> freckle goodby time.
>
> Hehe.  Yeah.  The video is CGI, but the pics of the jet at the end of the
> segment are real.
>
> g.
>
> -- 
> "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!"
>
> Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
> http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
>
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From dave_friend at tiscali.co.uk  Thu Jan 11 13:33:12 2007
From: dave_friend at tiscali.co.uk (Dave)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 21:33:12 -0000
Subject: [simpits-tech] Is it a bird?Is it a Plane?
Message-ID: <NMELJFKJAGJKHBDADGMJKEHJCEAA.dave_friend@tiscali.co.uk>

Hi guys check out this link
http://www.jet-man.com/actuel.html#

Incredible.

Dave
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From falcon4 at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 11 14:17:38 2007
From: falcon4 at sbcglobal.net (Joseph Fagner)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:17:38 -0600
Subject: [simpits-tech] Is it a bird?Is it a Plane?
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That has one big set of balls.

I couldn't help think of the coyote and road runner though and half kept
expecting him to plow right into the side of one of those mountains,'

Jay


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Hi guys check out this link
http://www.jet-man.com/actuel.html#

Incredible.

Dave
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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Thu Jan 11 14:34:40 2007
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 14:34:40 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Is it a bird?Is it a Plane?
In-Reply-To: <015601c735ce$4df02f70$1900a8c0@jaysoffice>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701111434200.4406-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>

> That has one big set of balls.
>
> I couldn't help think of the coyote and road runner though and half kept
> expecting him to plow right into the side of one of those mountains,'
>
*Meep!Meep*....*zing*


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From cyplesma at aol.com  Fri Jan 12 08:25:12 2007
From: cyplesma at aol.com (cyplesma at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 11:25:12 -0500
Subject: [simpits-tech] Is it a bird?Is it a Plane?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701111434200.4406-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>
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  I'd like to see him take off from the ground
    
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  > That has one big set of balls.
>
> I couldn't help think of the coyote and road runner though and half kept
> expecting him to plow right into the side of one of those mountains,'
>
*Meep!Meep*....*zing*


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From bjones at pipecomp.com.au  Mon Jan 15 04:52:15 2007
From: bjones at pipecomp.com.au (Ben Jones)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 21:52:15 +0900
Subject: [simpits-tech] News Flash
Message-ID: <004701c738a3$fbfb17b0$3d00a8c0@bjblackbox>

Nah just joking,

Can someone open a door its getting a bit musty in here...

Ben


Gene   on a serious note do you still have the 40K (or there abouts) block on attachemnts, ive got some picks of my aircraft construction i would like to post, just don't know how to screw the file size down any hints.

 
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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Mon Jan 15 07:02:48 2007
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 07:02:48 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] News Flash
In-Reply-To: <004701c738a3$fbfb17b0$3d00a8c0@bjblackbox>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701150701590.15092-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>

>
>
> Gene on a serious note do you still have the 40K (or there abouts) block
> on attachemnts, ive got some picks of my aircraft construction i would
> like to post, just don't know how to screw the file size down any hints.

Ben, you can email the pictures to me directly and I can post them on the
site.  I've disabled uploads for the time being due to security issues.
Don't worry about the file sizes.

g.

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From servantofcthulhu at hotmail.com  Mon Jan 15 18:05:39 2007
From: servantofcthulhu at hotmail.com (Simon Bennett)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:05:39 -0800
Subject: [simpits-tech] F-4 Phantom sim on eBay
Message-ID: <BAY105-F11549F1D3E691130289D61D4B40@phx.gbl>

http://cgi.ebay.com/F-4-PHANTOM-SIMULATOR-EJECTION-SEAT-CANOPY-COCKPIT_W0QQitemZ250072002903QQihZ015QQcategoryZ587QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Pretty cool. Would make one hell of a project.

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From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Wed Jan 17 08:42:30 2007
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 16:42:30 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Slightly OT, but still aircraft!
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0701171639100.7782-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>


Some of you may recall that abour 4 years ago I bought the cockpit from a
1954 Hawker Sea Hawk to convert into a simulator.

Well, I decided that would be blasphemous and decided to restore it
instead. The story is at http://wv838.com

I've now managed the purchase the fuselage etc from another sea hawk and
towards the end of this summer I will hopefully have all the various bits
in the same place, and she'll be re-assembled for display with out other
aircraft at the old Speke Aerodrome here in Liverpool.

Not quite a sim project - but a heckuva lot of fun nonetheless!

Roy.

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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Wed Jan 17 09:55:27 2007
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 09:55:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Slightly OT, but still aircraft!
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0701171639100.7782-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701170954450.19805-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>

On Wed, 17 Jan 2007, Roy Coates wrote:

>
> Some of you may recall that abour 4 years ago I bought the cockpit from a
> 1954 Hawker Sea Hawk to convert into a simulator.
>
> Well, I decided that would be blasphemous and decided to restore it
> instead. The story is at http://wv838.com
>
> I've now managed the purchase the fuselage etc from another sea hawk and
> towards the end of this summer I will hopefully have all the various bits
> in the same place, and she'll be re-assembled for display with out other
> aircraft at the old Speke Aerodrome here in Liverpool.
>
> Not quite a sim project - but a heckuva lot of fun nonetheless!
>
Outstanding Roy!

g.

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From sean.g at paradise.net.nz  Wed Jan 17 21:55:23 2007
From: sean.g at paradise.net.nz (Sean Galbraith)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 18:55:23 +1300
Subject: [simpits-tech] Slightly OT, but still aircraft!
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0701171639100.7782-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0701171639100.7782-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.0.20070118185351.00adfec0@paradise.net.nz>


>Not quite a sim project - but a heckuva lot of fun nonetheless!

That's bordering on being every_kids_dream isn't it?  I mean, you'll 
have a real fighter jet, all of your very own.

You are now my hero, sorry Gene, you just slipped down a spot <lol>

Awaiting the wet_trout_swinging

SeanG



From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Thu Jan 18 02:01:09 2007
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 10:01:09 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Slightly OT, but still aircraft!
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701170954450.19805-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0701181000350.13823-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Wed, 17 Jan 2007, Gene Buckle wrote:

> > Not quite a sim project - but a heckuva lot of fun nonetheless!
> >
> Outstanding Roy!

Cheers Gene, it gets better too.

More news in a day or so.

Roy.

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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Thu Jan 18 07:06:04 2007
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 07:06:04 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Slightly OT, but still aircraft!
In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20070118185351.00adfec0@paradise.net.nz>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701180704210.21931-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>

> >Not quite a sim project - but a heckuva lot of fun nonetheless!
>
> That's bordering on being every_kids_dream isn't it?  I mean, you'll
> have a real fighter jet, all of your very own.
>
> You are now my hero, sorry Gene, you just slipped down a spot <lol>
>
> Awaiting the wet_trout_swinging
>

Nah, that's ok.  Roy pulled off one hell of a coup.  He deserves the move
up in rank. :)

I imagine I'll catch up to him eventually. :)

g.

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From servantofcthulhu at hotmail.com  Thu Jan 18 18:14:54 2007
From: servantofcthulhu at hotmail.com (Simon Bennett)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 18:14:54 -0800
Subject: [simpits-tech] Slightly OT, but still aircraft!
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701180704210.21931-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <BAY105-F392FB2334853361DC08328D4A90@phx.gbl>

Yeah, I can see Gene sneaking into AMARC in the dead of night and making off 
with an F-15 airframe to bolt his cockpit onto.

Actually, with all the fancy tools he's been bragging about, he's probably 
planning to make his own...

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From chevello at rcn.com  Thu Jan 18 19:05:32 2007
From: chevello at rcn.com (KD)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 22:05:32 -0500
Subject: [simpits-tech] RC Piloting at its best and a new toy!
In-Reply-To: <mailman.290.1169132056.2346.simpits-tech@simpits.org>
References: <mailman.290.1169132056.2346.simpits-tech@simpits.org>
Message-ID: <45B0357C.7050905@rcn.com>

This is pretty cool stuff.
http://www.therawfeed.com/2006/09/vr-gear-makes-rc-airplane-coolest-toy.html
http://www.kahsoon.com/2006/09/26/vr-gear-rc-plane-awesome/
http://www.rc-tech.ch/web/
Next thing you know, people will be actually getting INSIDE aircraft and 
flying them BY HAND!

Can you imagine?

On a better note, I'm catching up to Gene. Today at work I got "my very 
own" F/A-18A cockpit. Took me about 3 minutes after it was off the truck 
to get the wrench and get the canopy open. "Mine" is complete except for 
the nose gear and refueling probe. Oh, and the Gatling gun :(.  They 
sawed it apart right aft of the canopy hinge.  It's even still got 
hydraulic oil and maybe a little fuel leaking out of it. So if any of 
you guys need any F-18A dimensions, let me know. I'll get whatever I 
can. Possibility of pictures soon, but they are all wound up about 
security at work right now, so I might only be able to get dimensions, 
no pics. I'm not sure why all the security, it was shipped on an open 
trailer (through the Midwest storms, with the canopy not completely 
closed, so there is about 2 inches of ice on the cockpit floor). I was 
last flown by "Maj. Colin 'FACE'" And is the 98th 18A built. Interesting 
stuff. It has Been in storage at AMARC since '96.  the BuNo is 161742, 
but I don't have any pics of the whole plane, so I don't know the tail 
number.

Neener neener

K

From sean.g at paradise.net.nz  Thu Jan 18 19:10:54 2007
From: sean.g at paradise.net.nz (sean.g at paradise.net.nz)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 16:10:54 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Slightly OT, but still aircraft!
In-Reply-To: <BAY105-F392FB2334853361DC08328D4A90@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY105-F392FB2334853361DC08328D4A90@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1169176254.45b036be6f8b1@www.paradise.net.nz>

Quoting Simon Bennett <servantofcthulhu at hotmail.com>:

> Yeah, I can see Gene sneaking into AMARC in the dead of night and making
> off 
> with an F-15 airframe to bolt his cockpit onto.
> 
> Actually, with all the fancy tools he's been bragging about, he's
> probably 
> planning to make his own...

lol  I can see it now.. Gene draws up the F-15, sans cockpit of course, sends it
through to the shopbot... which promptly faints...

<g>

SeanG

From geneb at deltasoft.com  Thu Jan 18 20:51:40 2007
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 20:51:40 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Slightly OT, but still aircraft!
In-Reply-To: <BAY105-F392FB2334853361DC08328D4A90@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701182048360.23077-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>

> Yeah, I can see Gene sneaking into AMARC in the dead of night and making off
> with an F-15 airframe to bolt his cockpit onto.
>
The funny thing with sneaking into AMARC is that you tend to get some
really nasty lead poisoning in the process.  In little bits that are about
.223in at a time. ;)

The funny thing is, Rob and I have threatened to haul of the A model at
McChord, but we don't think they'd buy the excuse that we were just taking
it to get it washed. :)

> Actually, with all the fancy tools he's been bragging about, he's probably
> planning to make his own...
>

*innocent look*

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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Thu Jan 18 20:53:51 2007
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 20:53:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] RC Piloting at its best and a new toy!
In-Reply-To: <45B0357C.7050905@rcn.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701182053060.23077-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>

>
> On a better note, I'm catching up to Gene. Today at work I got "my very
> own" F/A-18A cockpit. Took me about 3 minutes after it was off the truck
> to get the wrench and get the canopy open. "Mine" is complete except for
> the nose gear and refueling probe. Oh, and the Gatling gun :(.  They
> sawed it apart right aft of the canopy hinge.  It's even still got
> hydraulic oil and maybe a little fuel leaking out of it. So if any of
> you guys need any F-18A dimensions, let me know. I'll get whatever I
> can. Possibility of pictures soon, but they are all wound up about
> security at work right now, so I might only be able to get dimensions,
> no pics. I'm not sure why all the security, it was shipped on an open
> trailer (through the Midwest storms, with the canopy not completely
> closed, so there is about 2 inches of ice on the cockpit floor). I was
> last flown by "Maj. Colin 'FACE'" And is the 98th 18A built. Interesting
> stuff. It has Been in storage at AMARC since '96.  the BuNo is 161742,
> but I don't have any pics of the whole plane, so I don't know the tail
> number.
>
> Neener neener
>

Welcome to the club! :)  Now all you have to do is get it home to make
your journey to the dark side complete. :)

g.

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From servantofcthulhu at hotmail.com  Thu Jan 18 21:58:57 2007
From: servantofcthulhu at hotmail.com (Simon Bennett)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 21:58:57 -0800
Subject: [simpits-tech] Slightly OT, but still aircraft!
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701182048360.23077-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <BAY105-F6CF487AC9E61D43D2CFA3D4A90@phx.gbl>

>The funny thing with sneaking into AMARC is that you tend to get some
>really nasty lead poisoning in the process.  In little bits that are about
>.223in at a time. ;)

You sound like you're speaking from experience.

Hmm, maybe you could pull a Chuck Thornton and grab spare parts off of DRMO 
auctions, buy crashed airframes for scrap, and so on until you have enough 
to cobble together a complete airframe. 'Course, I'd bet by the time it's 
done, the avionics will be homemade, the control surfaces plywood and most 
of the plane's exterior surfaces made up of bondo. ;) Maybe a real ejection 
seat would be a sound investment.

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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Fri Jan 19 06:54:54 2007
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 06:54:54 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Slightly OT, but still aircraft!
In-Reply-To: <BAY105-F6CF487AC9E61D43D2CFA3D4A90@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701190654150.24236-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>

> >The funny thing with sneaking into AMARC is that you tend to get some
> >really nasty lead poisoning in the process.  In little bits that are about
> >.223in at a time. ;)
>
> You sound like you're speaking from experience.
>
The fact that I'm still speaking indicates I have no such experience. :)

> Hmm, maybe you could pull a Chuck Thornton and grab spare parts off of DRMO
> auctions, buy crashed airframes for scrap, and so on until you have enough
> to cobble together a complete airframe. 'Course, I'd bet by the time it's
> done, the avionics will be homemade, the control surfaces plywood and most
> of the plane's exterior surfaces made up of bondo. ;) Maybe a real ejection
> seat would be a sound investment.
>
Or a gullible test pilot. :)

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From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Fri Jan 19 08:12:31 2007
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 16:12:31 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] OT again - but wow  :-)
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0701191611490.367-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>



Our next project is...

http://jetstream-club.org/brit.jpg

Huge amount of work but a once in a lifetime chance.

Roy.

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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Fri Jan 19 09:16:02 2007
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 09:16:02 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] OT again - but wow  :-)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0701191611490.367-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701190915440.24451-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>

> Our next project is...
>
> http://jetstream-club.org/brit.jpg
>
> Huge amount of work but a once in a lifetime chance.
>

Looks in pretty good shape.  What is it?

g.

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From allendc at qwest.net  Fri Jan 19 09:20:14 2007
From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:20:14 -0700
Subject: [simpits-tech] OT again - but wow  :-)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701190915440.24451-100000@grumble.deltasoft .com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0701191611490.367-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
	<Pine.BSF.4.44.0701190915440.24451-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <20070119172021.ED44053C0C1@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net>

At 09:16 AM 1/19/2007 -0800, you wrote:
> > Our next project is...
> >
> > http://jetstream-club.org/brit.jpg
> >
> > Huge amount of work but a once in a lifetime chance.
> >
>
>Looks in pretty good shape.  What is it?

They call it a "Airplane"



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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Fri Jan 19 10:38:16 2007
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:38:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] OT again - but wow  :-)
In-Reply-To: <20070119172021.ED44053C0C1@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701191037290.24554-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>

> At 09:16 AM 1/19/2007 -0800, you wrote:
> > > Our next project is...
> > >
> > > http://jetstream-club.org/brit.jpg
> > >
> > > Huge amount of work but a once in a lifetime chance.
> > >
> >
> >Looks in pretty good shape.  What is it?
>
> They call it a "Airplane"
>
>
Yeah ok.  I had that coming. :)

Roy, what _brand_ of airplane is it?

g.

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From servantofcthulhu at hotmail.com  Fri Jan 19 12:45:06 2007
From: servantofcthulhu at hotmail.com (Simon Bennett)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 12:45:06 -0800
Subject: [simpits-tech] OT again - but wow :-)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701191037290.24554-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <BAY105-F394AACEBDD0477DE34B1CED4A90@phx.gbl>

Nowadays you don't brand an airplane. Traditionally ownership is denoted by 
registration numbers and such, which are usually painted on; a red-hot brand 
will just damage the paint and might cause sheet metal damage (you can bet 
the maintenance personnel would shit a brick if you tried).

They did experiment with such things, back in the barnstorming days when 
airplane rustling was a more serious problem than it is in modern times, but 
back  then the fragile wood-and-fabric flying machines tended to burst into 
flames more often than not, and the procedure was quickly abandoned.



P.S. Roy, which one are you working on? Is it G-ANCF?

>From: Gene Buckle <geneb at deltasoft.com>
>Reply-To: Simulator Cockpit tech list <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
>To: Simulator Cockpit tech list <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
>Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] OT again - but wow  :-)
>Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:38:16 -0800 (PST)
>
> > At 09:16 AM 1/19/2007 -0800, you wrote:
> > > > Our next project is...
> > > >
> > > > http://jetstream-club.org/brit.jpg
> > > >
> > > > Huge amount of work but a once in a lifetime chance.
> > > >
> > >
> > >Looks in pretty good shape.  What is it?
> >
> > They call it a "Airplane"
> >
> >
>Yeah ok.  I had that coming. :)
>
>Roy, what _brand_ of airplane is it?
>
>g.
>
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From simpit at phd.ndo.co.uk  Fri Jan 19 13:11:07 2007
From: simpit at phd.ndo.co.uk (Darren)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 21:11:07 -0000
Subject: [simpits-tech] OT again - but wow  :-)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701190915440.24451-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0701191611490.367-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
	<Pine.BSF.4.44.0701190915440.24451-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <003001c73c0e$574e5ab0$0401a8c0@amd2400xp>

A Bristol Britannia

Some pictures and info of the aircraft in question here
http://www.britannia.flyer.co.uk/gancf.htm

Looks like Roy is going to be one very busy man this year!!

Darren

-----Original Message-----
From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org
[mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Gene Buckle
Sent: 19 January 2007 17:16
To: Simulator Cockpit tech list
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] OT again - but wow :-)

> Our next project is...
>
> http://jetstream-club.org/brit.jpg
>
> Huge amount of work but a once in a lifetime chance.
>

Looks in pretty good shape.  What is it?

g.

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From bjones at pipecomp.com.au  Sat Jan 20 01:28:52 2007
From: bjones at pipecomp.com.au (Ben Jones)
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 18:28:52 +0900
Subject: [simpits-tech] OT again - but wow :-)
References: <BAY105-F394AACEBDD0477DE34B1CED4A90@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <003f01c73c75$66a666d0$3d00a8c0@bjblackbox>

Shit not even i could have written a witty reply like that........ dang it 
was good <snicker>

ben

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Simon Bennett" <servantofcthulhu at hotmail.com>
To: <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 5:45 AM
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] OT again - but wow :-)


> Nowadays you don't brand an airplane. Traditionally ownership is denoted 
> by
> registration numbers and such, which are usually painted on; a red-hot 
> brand
> will just damage the paint and might cause sheet metal damage (you can bet
> the maintenance personnel would shit a brick if you tried).
>
> They did experiment with such things, back in the barnstorming days when
> airplane rustling was a more serious problem than it is in modern times, 
> but
> back  then the fragile wood-and-fabric flying machines tended to burst 
> into
> flames more often than not, and the procedure was quickly abandoned.
>
>
>
> P.S. Roy, which one are you working on? Is it G-ANCF?
>
>>From: Gene Buckle <geneb at deltasoft.com>
>>Reply-To: Simulator Cockpit tech list <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
>>To: Simulator Cockpit tech list <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
>>Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] OT again - but wow  :-)
>>Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:38:16 -0800 (PST)
>>
>> > At 09:16 AM 1/19/2007 -0800, you wrote:
>> > > > Our next project is...
>> > > >
>> > > > http://jetstream-club.org/brit.jpg
>> > > >
>> > > > Huge amount of work but a once in a lifetime chance.
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >Looks in pretty good shape.  What is it?
>> >
>> > They call it a "Airplane"
>> >
>> >
>>Yeah ok.  I had that coming. :)
>>
>>Roy, what _brand_ of airplane is it?
>>
>>g.
>>
>>--
>>"I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!"
>>
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>>http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Sat Jan 20 21:52:53 2007
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 21:52:53 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] OT again - but wow :-)
In-Reply-To: <003f01c73c75$66a666d0$3d00a8c0@bjblackbox>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701202151380.29663-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>

> Shit not even i could have written a witty reply like that........ dang it
> was good <snicker>
>

That phenomenon is known as being "pwned".  Any reply would've just dug me
a deeper hole, so I just admitted defeat and walked away. :)

g.

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From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Mon Jan 22 03:04:30 2007
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 11:04:30 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Slightly OT, but still aircraft!
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701180704210.21931-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0701221103300.516-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Thu, 18 Jan 2007, Gene Buckle wrote:

> > >Not quite a sim project - but a heckuva lot of fun nonetheless!
> >
> > That's bordering on being every_kids_dream isn't it?  I mean, you'll
> > have a real fighter jet, all of your very own.
> >
> > You are now my hero, sorry Gene, you just slipped down a spot <lol>
> >
> > Awaiting the wet_trout_swinging
> >
>
> Nah, that's ok.  Roy pulled off one hell of a coup.  He deserves the move
> up in rank. :)
>
> I imagine I'll catch up to him eventually. :)
>

No way dude!  Not with a 90,000lb airliner heading my way!

:p


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From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Mon Jan 22 03:06:29 2007
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 11:06:29 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] OT again - but wow  :-)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701190915440.24451-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0701221105260.516-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Fri, 19 Jan 2007, Gene Buckle wrote:

> > Our next project is...
> >
> > http://jetstream-club.org/brit.jpg
> >
> > Huge amount of work but a once in a lifetime chance.
> >
>
> Looks in pretty good shape.  What is it?
>

1958 Bristol Britannia.  G-ANCF.

Been dismantled for nearly 20 years now looking for a permanent home.
Looks like it has finally found one with us :-)

She was based here at Liverpool 1964-1968 so she's coming home.

Roy.

--

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Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Mon Jan 22 03:08:12 2007
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 11:08:12 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] OT again - but wow :-)
In-Reply-To: <BAY105-F394AACEBDD0477DE34B1CED4A90@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0701221107520.516-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Fri, 19 Jan 2007, Simon Bennett wrote:

> Nowadays you don't brand an airplane. Traditionally ownership is denoted by
> registration numbers and such, which are usually painted on; a red-hot brand
> will just damage the paint and might cause sheet metal damage (you can bet
> the maintenance personnel would shit a brick if you tried).
>
> They did experiment with such things, back in the barnstorming days when
> airplane rustling was a more serious problem than it is in modern times, but
> back  then the fragile wood-and-fabric flying machines tended to burst into
> flames more often than not, and the procedure was quickly abandoned.


Go on... naughty corner ------------------------------->



> P.S. Roy, which one are you working on? Is it G-ANCF?


Yessum


--

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Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Mon Jan 22 03:09:09 2007
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 11:09:09 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] OT again - but wow  :-)
In-Reply-To: <003001c73c0e$574e5ab0$0401a8c0@amd2400xp>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0701221108200.516-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Fri, 19 Jan 2007, Darren wrote:

> A Bristol Britannia
>
> Some pictures and info of the aircraft in question here
> http://www.britannia.flyer.co.uk/gancf.htm
>
> Looks like Roy is going to be one very busy man this year!!


I'm busy every year!  Every time I think "I really should slow down a bit"
something new and funky comes along that I just can't resist.

It's the old curse isn't it?  "May you live in interesting times!"


--

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Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Mon Jan 22 03:11:16 2007
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 11:11:16 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] OT again - but wow :-)
In-Reply-To: <003f01c73c75$66a666d0$3d00a8c0@bjblackbox>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0701221110030.516-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Sat, 20 Jan 2007, Ben Jones wrote:

> Shit not even i could have written a witty reply like that........ dang it
> was good <snicker>


Can you use the word 'shit' on this list?

Surely there should be a warning, like...

*WARNING* This post contains the word 'shit'.

Then we would know to avoid it if we were of a very sensitive nature.

:-)

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Liverpool University.
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Tel: 0151 794 4862
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From dave_friend at tiscali.co.uk  Mon Jan 22 06:26:03 2007
From: dave_friend at tiscali.co.uk (Dave)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:26:03 -0000
Subject: [simpits-tech] OT again - but wow :-)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0701221110030.516-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <NMELJFKJAGJKHBDADGMJMEKGCEAA.dave_friend@tiscali.co.uk>

Lol.

Obviously, Roy you aint busy enough

 :o)


-----Original Message-----
From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org
[mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org]On Behalf Of Roy Coates
Sent: 22 January 2007 11:11
To: Simulator Cockpit tech list
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] OT again - but wow :-)


On Sat, 20 Jan 2007, Ben Jones wrote:

> Shit not even i could have written a witty reply like that........ dang it
> was good <snicker>


Can you use the word 'shit' on this list?

Surely there should be a warning, like...

*WARNING* This post contains the word 'shit'.

Then we would know to avoid it if we were of a very sensitive nature.

:-)

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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Mon Jan 22 07:00:34 2007
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 07:00:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Slightly OT, but still aircraft!
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0701221103300.516-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701220657390.33209-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>

> > > That's bordering on being every_kids_dream isn't it?  I mean, you'll
> > > have a real fighter jet, all of your very own.
> > >
> > > You are now my hero, sorry Gene, you just slipped down a spot <lol>
> > >
> > > Awaiting the wet_trout_swinging
> > >
> >
> > Nah, that's ok.  Roy pulled off one hell of a coup.  He deserves the move
> > up in rank. :)
> >
> > I imagine I'll catch up to him eventually. :)
> >
>
> No way dude!  Not with a 90,000lb airliner heading my way!
>

Hehehe.  We'll see. :)

g.

-- 
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Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.


From geneb at deltasoft.com  Mon Jan 22 07:01:18 2007
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 07:01:18 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] OT again - but wow  :-)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0701221105260.516-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701220700450.33209-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>

> > > Our next project is...
> > >
> > > http://jetstream-club.org/brit.jpg
> > >
> > > Huge amount of work but a once in a lifetime chance.
> > >
> >
> > Looks in pretty good shape.  What is it?
> >
>
> 1958 Bristol Britannia.  G-ANCF.
>
> Been dismantled for nearly 20 years now looking for a permanent home.
> Looks like it has finally found one with us :-)
>
> She was based here at Liverpool 1964-1968 so she's coming home.
>

Outstanding!  Are you going to get it restored to flying condition or just
for static display?

g.

-- 
"I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!"

Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.


From geneb at deltasoft.com  Mon Jan 22 07:02:42 2007
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 07:02:42 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] OT again - but wow :-)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0701221110030.516-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701220701500.33209-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>

> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007, Ben Jones wrote:
>
> > Shit not even i could have written a witty reply like that........ dang it
> > was good <snicker>
>
>
> Can you use the word 'shit' on this list?
>
> Surely there should be a warning, like...
>
> *WARNING* This post contains the word 'shit'.
>
> Then we would know to avoid it if we were of a very sensitive nature.
>
> :-)

On THIS list?  Are you mad?  All the waffly ones left in a huff years ago.
:)

g.

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http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.


From bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil  Mon Jan 22 06:43:18 2007
From: bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil (Brian Sikkema)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 09:43:18 -0500
Subject: [simpits-tech] OT again - but wow :-)
Message-ID: <62e1b40d06e74c8996895fc1b59d4019.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil>


> On THIS list?  Are you mad?  All the waffly ones left in a huff years ago.
> :)


Mmmm.... waffles.....


From geneb at deltasoft.com  Mon Jan 22 08:27:13 2007
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 08:27:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] OT again - but wow :-)
In-Reply-To: <62e1b40d06e74c8996895fc1b59d4019.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701220826470.33343-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>

> > On THIS list?  Are you mad?  All the waffly ones left in a huff years ago.
> > :)
>
>
> Mmmm.... waffles.....
>

Hey, the old married guy is back!  How did the stencils work out?

g.

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From allendc at qwest.net  Mon Jan 22 09:35:28 2007
From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 10:35:28 -0700
Subject: [simpits-tech] Slightly OT, but still aircraft!
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0701221103300.516-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.
 uk>
References: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701180704210.21931-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.44.0701221103300.516-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <20070122173540.301E853BFF7@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net>


> > I imagine I'll catch up to him eventually. :)
> >
>
>No way dude!  Not with a 90,000lb airliner heading my way!

Roy are you now saying SIZE matters?????

I would guess that with Genes new toys it won't take him long to get 
to 90,001lb.

David
www.737FlightSim.com 


From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Mon Jan 22 10:49:41 2007
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:49:41 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] OT again - but wow  :-)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701220700450.33209-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0701221849170.261-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, Gene Buckle wrote:

> > > > Our next project is...
> > > >
> > > > http://jetstream-club.org/brit.jpg
> > > >
> > > > Huge amount of work but a once in a lifetime chance.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Looks in pretty good shape.  What is it?
> > >
> >
> > 1958 Bristol Britannia.  G-ANCF.
> >
> > Been dismantled for nearly 20 years now looking for a permanent home.
> > Looks like it has finally found one with us :-)
> >
> > She was based here at Liverpool 1964-1968 so she's coming home.
> >
>
> Outstanding!  Are you going to get it restored to flying condition or just
> for static display?


Sadly(!) just static, no chance of finding good proteus engines now.


--

Roy Coates.
Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
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Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Mon Jan 22 10:50:24 2007
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:50:24 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Slightly OT, but still aircraft!
In-Reply-To: <20070122173540.301E853BFF7@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0701221850010.261-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, David C. Allen wrote:

>
> > > I imagine I'll catch up to him eventually. :)
> > >
> >
> >No way dude!  Not with a 90,000lb airliner heading my way!
>
> Roy are you now saying SIZE matters?????
>
> I would guess that with Genes new toys it won't take him long to get
> to 90,001lb.


I wouldn't recommend it really... dealing with 101' wagon loads is
painful.


--

Roy Coates.
Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
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Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter.
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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Mon Jan 22 11:12:43 2007
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 11:12:43 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] OT again - but wow  :-)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0701221849170.261-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701221112150.33589-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>

> > >
> > > Been dismantled for nearly 20 years now looking for a permanent home.
> > > Looks like it has finally found one with us :-)
> > >
> > > She was based here at Liverpool 1964-1968 so she's coming home.
> > >
> >
> > Outstanding!  Are you going to get it restored to flying condition or just
> > for static display?
>
>
> Sadly(!) just static, no chance of finding good proteus engines now.
>
You could always re-engine her. :)

g.

-- 
"I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!"

Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.


From bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil  Mon Jan 22 12:07:56 2007
From: bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil (Brian Sikkema)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:07:56 -0500
Subject: [simpits-tech] OT again - but wow  :-)
Message-ID: <f9c6d815b4274350b057e2fbc9bcde9a.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil>


> Sadly(!) just static, no chance of finding good proteus engines now.

You don't need to find good proteus engines, you just need to find good proteus engine diagrams. ;)

That's what they do here at the National Museum of the Air Force. Every plane in there, while not flown, is in flyable condition. I got to tour their restoration hangars, just amazing stuff...

Brian


From bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil  Mon Jan 22 12:09:41 2007
From: bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil (Brian Sikkema)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:09:41 -0500
Subject: [simpits-tech] OT again - but wow :-)
Message-ID: <4049c266617749ff87a168c56d6ee6cb.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil>


> > Mmmm.... waffles.....
> >
> 
> Hey, the old married guy is back!  How did the stencils work out?

:( Sadly I haven't had the heart to open the package yet. Turns out it didn't get forwarded as asked, they just left it on my porch (99% sure they're not supposed to do that, but I digress). Anyway it rained a lot in the two and a half weeks I was gone...

So anyway, I've got 'em, but, well, yeah... Totally my fault, though. Thanks for your help.

I'll post pics of the truck in it's wedding getup soon. ;)

Brian


From bass.pumped at gmail.com  Mon Jan 22 12:25:15 2007
From: bass.pumped at gmail.com (bass pumped)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:25:15 -0600
Subject: [simpits-tech] OT again - but wow :-)
In-Reply-To: <f9c6d815b4274350b057e2fbc9bcde9a.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil>
References: <f9c6d815b4274350b057e2fbc9bcde9a.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil>
Message-ID: <f7f5a9670701221225m297907bbtbef6fe361938cb07@mail.gmail.com>

> That's what they do here at the National Museum of the Air Force. Every plane in there, while not flown, is in flyable condition. I got to tour their restoration hangars, just amazing stuff...

you mean they are fuelled and ready to go as well? :p

From geneb at deltasoft.com  Mon Jan 22 12:44:26 2007
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 12:44:26 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] OT again - but wow :-)
In-Reply-To: <4049c266617749ff87a168c56d6ee6cb.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701221243540.33724-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>

> >
> > Hey, the old married guy is back!  How did the stencils work out?
>
> :( Sadly I haven't had the heart to open the package yet. Turns out it
> didn't get forwarded as asked, they just left it on my porch (99% sure
> they're not supposed to do that, but I digress). Anyway it rained a lot
> in the two and a half weeks I was gone...
>
Damn.  Did they get wet?

> I'll post pics of the truck in it's wedding getup soon. ;)
>
ok!

g.

-- 
"I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!"

Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.


From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Mon Jan 22 16:36:26 2007
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 00:36:26 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] OT again - but wow  :-)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701221112150.33589-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0701230035560.4826-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, Gene Buckle wrote:

> > Sadly(!) just static, no chance of finding good proteus engines now.
> >
> You could always re-engine her. :)


craning nearly 90 tons of aircraft sections back together is work enough!


--

Roy Coates.
Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter.
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From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Mon Jan 22 16:36:49 2007
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 00:36:49 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] OT again - but wow  :-)
In-Reply-To: <f9c6d815b4274350b057e2fbc9bcde9a.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0701230036290.4826-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, Brian Sikkema wrote:

> You don't need to find good proteus engines, you just need to find good proteus engine diagrams. ;)
>
> That's what they do here at the National Museum of the Air Force. Every plane in there, while not flown, is in flyable condition. I got to tour their restoration hangars, just amazing stuff...


Are you thinking "Shop Bot"  ?    ;-)


--

Roy Coates.
Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From geneb at deltasoft.com  Mon Jan 22 15:52:28 2007
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:52:28 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] OT again - but wow  :-)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0701230035560.4826-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701221552120.33976-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>

> > > Sadly(!) just static, no chance of finding good proteus engines now.
> > >
> > You could always re-engine her. :)
>
>
> craning nearly 90 tons of aircraft sections back together is work enough!
>

Chicken. :)

g.

-- 
"I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!"

Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.


From geneb at deltasoft.com  Mon Jan 22 15:53:52 2007
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:53:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] OT again - but wow  :-)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0701230036290.4826-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701221552390.33976-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>

> > You don't need to find good proteus engines, you just need to find
> > good proteus engine diagrams. ;) That's what they do here at the
> > National Museum of the Air Force. Every plane in there, while not
> > flown, is in flyable condition. I got to tour their restoration
> > hangars, just amazing stuff...
>
>
> Are you thinking "Shop Bot"  ?    ;-)
>

The ShopBot is a very nice tool.  It's not however, nice enough to make
tiny little turbine blades with the accuracy required. :)

g.

-- 
"I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!"

Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.


From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Tue Jan 23 05:36:50 2007
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:36:50 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] OT again - but wow  :-)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701221552120.33976-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0701231336400.7924-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, Gene Buckle wrote:

> > > > Sadly(!) just static, no chance of finding good proteus engines now.
> > > >
> > > You could always re-engine her. :)
> >
> >
> > craning nearly 90 tons of aircraft sections back together is work enough!
> >
>
> Chicken. :)


Yes !!


--

Roy Coates.
Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Tue Jan 23 05:37:53 2007
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:37:53 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] OT again - but wow  :-)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701221552390.33976-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0701231336570.7924-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, Gene Buckle wrote:

> > > You don't need to find good proteus engines, you just need to find
> > > good proteus engine diagrams. ;) That's what they do here at the
> > > National Museum of the Air Force. Every plane in there, while not
> > > flown, is in flyable condition. I got to tour their restoration
> > > hangars, just amazing stuff...
> >
> >
> > Are you thinking "Shop Bot"  ?    ;-)
> >
>
> The ShopBot is a very nice tool.  It's not however, nice enough to make
> tiny little turbine blades with the accuracy required. :)


bah.... a toy !!    ;-)


--

Roy Coates.
Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From frank at rezultat.dk  Tue Jan 23 09:54:17 2007
From: frank at rezultat.dk (Frank Riedel)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:54:17 +0100
Subject: [simpits-tech] RS Rudder
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701190654150.24236-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <000001c73f17$80d21dc0$0301a8c0@Franks>

Hi All
Anybody having a RealSimulators Rudder set for sale ?

Regards
Frank


From geneb at deltasoft.com  Thu Jan 25 13:56:15 2007
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 13:56:15 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] x-plane.info?
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701251354050.41203-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>

Roy, what happened to the site you had at x-plane.info?  I was answering a
query today from someone trying to locate "the guy doing X-Plane work in
Delphi" and found the xpanel link dead and a placeholder sitting on the
main page.

g.


-- 
"I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!"

Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.


From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Fri Jan 26 01:49:13 2007
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 09:49:13 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] x-plane.info?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701251354050.41203-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0701260948060.4223-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Thu, 25 Jan 2007, Gene Buckle wrote:

> Roy, what happened to the site you had at x-plane.info?  I was answering a
> query today from someone trying to locate "the guy doing X-Plane work in
> Delphi" and found the xpanel link dead and a placeholder sitting on the
> main page.


It's just been moved to a new server - tis online. Horribly out of date
though.


--

Roy Coates.
Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From geneb at deltasoft.com  Fri Jan 26 06:53:36 2007
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 06:53:36 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] x-plane.info?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0701260948060.4223-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701260652530.42797-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>

> > Roy, what happened to the site you had at x-plane.info?  I was answering a
> > query today from someone trying to locate "the guy doing X-Plane work in
> > Delphi" and found the xpanel link dead and a placeholder sitting on the
> > main page.
>
>
> It's just been moved to a new server - tis online. Horribly out of date
> though.
>

Ahh, ok.  Thanks Roy.

BTW, have you seen the new Turbo Explorer releases from Borland (now
CodeGear)?  Pretty neat stuff.

g.

-- 
"I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!"

Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.


From steve at virchitecture.com  Sun Jan 28 20:37:44 2007
From: steve at virchitecture.com (Steve Wilson)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 21:37:44 -0700
Subject: [simpits-tech] Greets From Tucson
Message-ID: <077a01c7435f$396a7260$0201a8c0@Webhead>

Hey All -

I'm back up after a too long break.  Getting back into the F-16 pit pipeline
again.

How's it goin' all?

Steve Wilson
Tucson, AZ


From idekkers at gmail.com  Sun Jan 28 23:43:54 2007
From: idekkers at gmail.com (Ido Dekkers)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 09:43:54 +0200
Subject: [simpits-tech] Greets From Tucson
In-Reply-To: <077a01c7435f$396a7260$0201a8c0@Webhead>
References: <077a01c7435f$396a7260$0201a8c0@Webhead>
Message-ID: <39e5de8d0701282343o2d4ab15sc48ff5369408f11c@mail.gmail.com>

hey steve

have you seen http://viperpit.org/forum/index.php

Ido

On 1/29/07, Steve Wilson <steve at virchitecture.com> wrote:
>
> Hey All -
>
> I'm back up after a too long break.  Getting back into the F-16 pit
> pipeline
> again.
>
> How's it goin' all?
>
> Steve Wilson
> Tucson, AZ
>
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From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Mon Jan 29 02:25:33 2007
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 10:25:33 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] x-plane.info?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701260652530.42797-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0701291021030.11673-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Fri, 26 Jan 2007, Gene Buckle wrote:

>
> BTW, have you seen the new Turbo Explorer releases from Borland (now
> CodeGear)?  Pretty neat stuff.
>

Nup - far too busy for new toys I'm afraid.  Things are really getting
busy at the old airfield and the logistics of bringing in the Britannia
are eating sooooo much time at the moment.  With the wing section breaking
down to a still massive 101 foot long, we've got to get a 'movement order'
for it which will entail a police escort for the 200 mile journey. The
route has to be carefully planned and the access to the airfield has to be
re-arranged slightly (bulldozer required!).

Add to this preparations for this years av-fair and the RAF Speke memorial
stuff and the new simulator I'm building for the Uni and life gets a bit
hectic.

On the bright side, the engines and props for the Brit arrive tomorrow!

Wifey ain't too happy with me as you can imagine ;-)

Roy.

--

Roy Coates.
Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From geneb at deltasoft.com  Mon Jan 29 07:16:46 2007
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 07:16:46 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Greets From Tucson
In-Reply-To: <077a01c7435f$396a7260$0201a8c0@Webhead>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701290715450.51377-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>

> Hey All -
>
> I'm back up after a too long break.  Getting back into the F-16 pit pipeline
> again.
>

Well holy crap.  Look who decided to come home. *laughs*

How have you been Steve?  I take it the move went well, etc?  Did you ever
finish that monster model of the Enterprise you bought?

g.

-- 
"I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!"

Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.


From geneb at deltasoft.com  Mon Jan 29 07:19:03 2007
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 07:19:03 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] x-plane.info?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0701291021030.11673-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701290717370.51377-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>

> Nup - far too busy for new toys I'm afraid.  Things are really getting
> busy at the old airfield and the logistics of bringing in the Britannia
> are eating sooooo much time at the moment.  With the wing section breaking
> down to a still massive 101 foot long, we've got to get a 'movement order'
> for it which will entail a police escort for the 200 mile journey. The
> route has to be carefully planned and the access to the airfield has to be
> re-arranged slightly (bulldozer required!).
>
Bah.  You should've left it together and bummed a C-17 from Lakenheath to
air-tow it to it's new home. :)

> Add to this preparations for this years av-fair and the RAF Speke memorial
> stuff and the new simulator I'm building for the Uni and life gets a bit
> hectic.
>
What's the new sim going to be patterned after?

> Wifey ain't too happy with me as you can imagine ;-)
>
You don't say?  Fancy that! :)

g.

-- 
"I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!"

Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.


From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Mon Jan 29 08:50:54 2007
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 16:50:54 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] x-plane.info?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701290717370.51377-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0701291649240.11673-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Mon, 29 Jan 2007, Gene Buckle wrote:

> Bah.  You should've left it together and bummed a C-17 from Lakenheath to
> air-tow it to it's new home. :)

I was talking to the OC at RAF CantTellYa last week and he said "We could
do that for you in no time with a coupla chinooks.  Of course we're not
going to!".   Bastard.


> What's the new sim going to be patterned after?

Uses HS125 yokes, pedals and throttle box but will emulate a J41 simply
because I already know the J41 systems which speeds up dev time a lot.


> > Wifey ain't too happy with me as you can imagine ;-)
> >
> You don't say?  Fancy that! :)

Hmmm....

Roy.


--

Roy Coates.
Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From geneb at deltasoft.com  Mon Jan 29 12:30:41 2007
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 12:30:41 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] x-plane.info?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0701291649240.11673-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701291229080.51870-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>

> > Bah.  You should've left it together and bummed a C-17 from Lakenheath to
> > air-tow it to it's new home. :)
>
> I was talking to the OC at RAF CantTellYa last week and he said "We could
> do that for you in no time with a coupla chinooks.  Of course we're not
> going to!".   Bastard.
>
Hehe.  That sucks. :)

>
> > What's the new sim going to be patterned after?
>
> Uses HS125 yokes, pedals and throttle box but will emulate a J41 simply
> because I already know the J41 systems which speeds up dev time a lot.
>
Sounds cool.  Gotta post pics! :)

g.

-- 
"I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!"

Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.


From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Mon Jan 29 16:00:55 2007
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 00:00:55 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Oooh... F-16 !!
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0701300000350.16435-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>



For the part-time sim-pitter ?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/UNITED-STATES-AIR-FORCE-BLACK-EAGLE-F-16-FIGHTER-JET_W0QQitemZ160073063919QQihZ006QQcategoryZ63678QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem




--

Roy Coates.
Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
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Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From geneb at deltasoft.com  Mon Jan 29 16:01:09 2007
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 16:01:09 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Oooh... F-16 !!
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0701300000350.16435-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701291600170.52189-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>

>
> For the part-time sim-pitter ?
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/UNITED-STATES-AIR-FORCE-BLACK-EAGLE-F-16-FIGHTER-JET_W0QQitemZ160073063919QQihZ006QQcategoryZ63678QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>

I bet the first bounce on touchdown is gonna be a real bitch...


g.

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Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.


From bjones at pipecomp.com.au  Tue Jan 30 02:55:16 2007
From: bjones at pipecomp.com.au (Ben Jones)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 19:55:16 +0900
Subject: [simpits-tech] Oooh... F-16 !!
References: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701291600170.52189-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <00d801c7445d$287d8330$3d00a8c0@bjblackbox>

It's gonna be funny when a missile hits it.

SQUEEK

Just dont let the dog chew on it SQUEEK SQUEEK SQUEEK SQUEEL POP

Ben


Ps Gene , just compiling some shots of my aircraft and a bit of a story , 
prob really boring for most, just a pile of ali bits, wheels,brakes and 1/2 
made rudder pedals ,  but rudder and fin is almose finished, just going 
through the motions of  errecting a workshop to get the aircraft out of the 
house  as it is on my dining room table.
Lucky im single in my own house.

Jig saw , drill press and milling machine on kitchen floor , sander and 
table jig saw in laundry and U/C on spare bed.





----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gene Buckle" <geneb at deltasoft.com>
To: "Simulator Cockpit tech list" <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Oooh... F-16 !!


> >
>> For the part-time sim-pitter ?
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/UNITED-STATES-AIR-FORCE-BLACK-EAGLE-F-16-FIGHTER-JET_W0QQitemZ160073063919QQihZ006QQcategoryZ63678QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>
>
> I bet the first bounce on touchdown is gonna be a real bitch...
>
>
> g.
>
> -- 
> "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!"
>
> Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
> http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
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From dave_friend at tiscali.co.uk  Tue Jan 30 05:55:25 2007
From: dave_friend at tiscali.co.uk (Dave)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 13:55:25 -0000
Subject: [simpits-tech] Oooh... F-16 !!
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701291600170.52189-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <NMELJFKJAGJKHBDADGMJIEMFCEAA.dave_friend@tiscali.co.uk>

Hmmm. How much helium do you reckon you'd need to get airborne?

Dave

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 30 January 2007 00:01
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Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Oooh... F-16 !!


>
> For the part-time sim-pitter ?
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/UNITED-STATES-AIR-FORCE-BLACK-EAGLE-F-16-FIGH
TER-JET_W0QQitemZ160073063919QQihZ006QQcategoryZ63678QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>

I bet the first bounce on touchdown is gonna be a real bitch...


g.

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From steve at virchitecture.com  Mon Jan 29 19:09:36 2007
From: steve at virchitecture.com (Steve Wilson)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 20:09:36 -0700
Subject: [simpits-tech] Greets From Tucson
References: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701290715450.51377-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <001601c7441c$13f11c10$0201a8c0@Webhead>

Heh -

Yah, home is the sailor, etc.  Nice to be back, Gene.  ;-)

The move went well, and the mini-mobile home I bought is nearing completion
of phase I remodeling.  Job hunting took longer than I wanted, but I didn't
end up on a street corner in the process.  Did a temp stint at a place
called Evergreen Aviation which was way cool and a more permanent tour of
duty working for a payroll company, which was decidedly not.  Fate
precipitated a most nifty exhibits tech position at the Pima Air and Space
Museum.

This week I start welding the frame of my first flight simulator for 'em.
The collection of cool aircraft I've planted my tush in over the past 6
months still boggles my tiny little mind.

The really big Big E is still pending the completion of a workshop in my
shed.  Needum lots of space for that beast.  I saw one partially finished
about two years ago in Louisville at the annual "Wonderfest."  This project
remains firmly on my to do list!

However, now that I have the run of the museum's woodshop and myriad
exhibits construction facilities, I have no excuse to not put together some
kinda pit.  It has to fit in rather limited space, so unfortunately I will
not be bugging the guys at AMARC for a dead jet.

And Ido, thanks...... but I'm already over on Viperpits as "Wildcat."  VERY
astute bunch of single faucet sim fans.

Anyway, I'll be sure to chime in 'round simpits-tech too.  Lots to learn,
lots to share.  In fact, I'm makin' a list of stuff I still
need.......again.....   <evil grin>

Cheers!

Steve


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gene Buckle" <geneb at deltasoft.com>
To: "Simulator Cockpit tech list" <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Greets From Tucson


> > Hey All -
> >
> > I'm back up after a too long break.  Getting back into the F-16 pit
pipeline
> > again.
> >
>
> Well holy crap.  Look who decided to come home. *laughs*
>
> How have you been Steve?  I take it the move went well, etc?  Did you ever
> finish that monster model of the Enterprise you bought?
>
> g.
>
> -- 
> "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!"
>
> Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
> http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
>
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From geneb at deltasoft.com  Tue Jan 30 14:19:51 2007
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 14:19:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Oooh... F-16 !!
In-Reply-To: <00d801c7445d$287d8330$3d00a8c0@bjblackbox>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701301418510.53634-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>

> It's gonna be funny when a missile hits it.
>
> SQUEEK
>
> Just dont let the dog chew on it SQUEEK SQUEEK SQUEEK SQUEEL POP
>
*rofl*

The look on the dogs face would be priceless.

> Ps Gene , just compiling some shots of my aircraft and a bit of a story ,
> prob really boring for most, just a pile of ali bits, wheels,brakes and 1/2
> made rudder pedals ,  but rudder and fin is almose finished, just going
> through the motions of  errecting a workshop to get the aircraft out of the
> house  as it is on my dining room table.
> Lucky im single in my own house.

Cool!  It's always good to see what you guys are up to.  It's far too
quiet on this list.

g.

-- 
"I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!"

Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.


From geneb at deltasoft.com  Tue Jan 30 14:27:11 2007
From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 14:27:11 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Greets From Tucson
In-Reply-To: <001601c7441c$13f11c10$0201a8c0@Webhead>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701301421180.53634-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>

> The move went well, and the mini-mobile home I bought is nearing completion
> of phase I remodeling.  Job hunting took longer than I wanted, but I didn't
> end up on a street corner in the process.  Did a temp stint at a place
> called Evergreen Aviation which was way cool and a more permanent tour of
> duty working for a payroll company, which was decidedly not.  Fate
> precipitated a most nifty exhibits tech position at the Pima Air and Space
> Museum.
>
Hey, it beats bashing your head against cranky old servers AOL used to
cook on.  Symbolics or S-somthingorother.  The mind fades. :)

> This week I start welding the frame of my first flight simulator for 'em.
> The collection of cool aircraft I've planted my tush in over the past 6
> months still boggles my tiny little mind.
>
Do tell!

> The really big Big E is still pending the completion of a workshop in my
> shed.  Needum lots of space for that beast.  I saw one partially finished
> about two years ago in Louisville at the annual "Wonderfest."  This project
> remains firmly on my to do list!
>
Well get on it! :)

> kinda pit.  It has to fit in rather limited space, so unfortunately I will
> not be bugging the guys at AMARC for a dead jet.
>
You've got it backwards. You beg 'em for a dead jet and then you've got
the perfect excuse to build something to house it in. :)

g.

-- 
"I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!"

Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.


From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk  Tue Jan 30 01:45:05 2007
From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 09:45:05 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [simpits-tech] Oooh... F-16 !!
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0701291600170.52189-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0701300944320.19758-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>

On Mon, 29 Jan 2007, Gene Buckle wrote:

> >
> > For the part-time sim-pitter ?
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/UNITED-STATES-AIR-FORCE-BLACK-EAGLE-F-16-FIGHTER-JET_W0QQitemZ160073063919QQihZ006QQcategoryZ63678QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> >
>
> I bet the first bounce on touchdown is gonna be a real bitch...
>

but you can take it in the bath/pool/ocean ...


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Liverpool University.
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From bjones at pipecomp.com.au  Wed Jan 31 01:06:59 2007
From: bjones at pipecomp.com.au (Ben Jones)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 18:06:59 +0900
Subject: [simpits-tech] Oooh... F-16 !!  CAUTION CONTAINS ADULT HUMOR
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0701300944320.19758-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <008501c74517$2d7b2d00$3d00a8c0@bjblackbox>

Roy's gonna slap me for this post........

So it comes with a self inflator , can you specify cup size or colour of 
hair ??

Ben


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roy Coates" <roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk>
To: "Simulator Cockpit tech list" <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Oooh... F-16 !!


> On Mon, 29 Jan 2007, Gene Buckle wrote:
>
>> >
>> > For the part-time sim-pitter ?
>> >
>> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/UNITED-STATES-AIR-FORCE-BLACK-EAGLE-F-16-FIGHTER-JET_W0QQitemZ160073063919QQihZ006QQcategoryZ63678QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>> >
>>
>> I bet the first bounce on touchdown is gonna be a real bitch...
>>
>
> but you can take it in the bath/pool/ocean ...
>
>
> --
>
> Roy Coates.
> Dept of Engineering.
> Liverpool University.
> E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk
> Tel: 0151 794 4862
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> meter.
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