From bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil Sun Dec 2 18:39:43 2007 From: bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil (Brian Sikkema) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 21:39:43 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Circuit question - plus another for Gene Message-ID: <2d4bcdb8764747b8aa56cab930cdc457.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> Hey guys, quick q for ya. I'm thinking of building a circuit, and basically what I need is this: I have seven LEDs that need to be lit up in sequential order as a linear pot is moved. So basically as you slide the pot from one end to the other, the LED's all light up (only one lit at any given time) from one end to the other. Idealy it could be adjusted so each LED lights up at a specific resistance, as I need it to be a little non-linear at spots - i.e. I for a couple, the pot would need to be moved 1/2" to move on to the next light, then for others it would only need to be moved a 1/4". Somewhat confusing, I know... but it seems like it should be doable. But I'm no EE so I dunno how. Simpler the better, though. Not looking to sink a whole lotta money or time into this project. As to my second question, Gene how thick are those backlit panels you make? Do you think you could make one roughly 1/8" thick, or would that be too thin? Bria From crease-guard at sbcglobal.net Sun Dec 2 19:07:16 2007 From: crease-guard at sbcglobal.net (Joseph Fagner) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 21:07:16 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Circuit question - plus another for Gene In-Reply-To: <2d4bcdb8764747b8aa56cab930cdc457.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> References: <2d4bcdb8764747b8aa56cab930cdc457.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> Message-ID: <002801c83559$9c6d0110$1900a8c0@flightsystems> I would say your best bet would be to program a simple PIC to do this job. You simply need one analog input line and 7 output lines. Your code could be adjusted so that you get whatever linear or non linear behavior you desire. Or, you might be able to use an 8 bit Analog to Digital chip and simply move the pot, find which of the 8 bits goes high and use that to drive the LED. Now, you could only use each bit once, so depending on your pot placement would determine if you could find each bit uniquely high at each point along the slider. Might work in theory. Now, a disclaimer...I understand how PICs work...but I have no clue how to program them. Jay -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Brian Sikkema Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 8:40 PM To: simpits-tech at simpits.org Subject: [simpits-tech] Circuit question - plus another for Gene Hey guys, quick q for ya. I'm thinking of building a circuit, and basically what I need is this: I have seven LEDs that need to be lit up in sequential order as a linear pot is moved. So basically as you slide the pot from one end to the other, the LED's all light up (only one lit at any given time) from one end to the other. Idealy it could be adjusted so each LED lights up at a specific resistance, as I need it to be a little non-linear at spots - i.e. I for a couple, the pot would need to be moved 1/2" to move on to the next light, then for others it would only need to be moved a 1/4". Somewhat confusing, I know... but it seems like it should be doable. But I'm no EE so I dunno how. Simpler the better, though. Not looking to sink a whole lotta money or time into this project. As to my second question, Gene how thick are those backlit panels you make? Do you think you could make one roughly 1/8" thick, or would that be too thin? Bria _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. 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From bjones at pipecomp.com.au Sun Dec 2 19:31:09 2007 From: bjones at pipecomp.com.au (Ben Jones) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 12:31:09 +0900 Subject: [simpits-tech] Circuit question - plus another for Gene References: <2d4bcdb8764747b8aa56cab930cdc457.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> <002801c83559$9c6d0110$1900a8c0@flightsystems> Message-ID: <004401c8355c$f26b97e0$0b00000a@BenLaptop> Programe via computer 8-) hope this helps Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Fagner" To: "'Simulator Cockpit tech list'" > > Now, a disclaimer...I understand how PICs work...but I have no clue how to > program them. > > Jay > From geneb at deltasoft.com Sun Dec 2 20:38:30 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 20:38:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Circuit question - plus another for Gene In-Reply-To: <2d4bcdb8764747b8aa56cab930cdc457.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> References: <2d4bcdb8764747b8aa56cab930cdc457.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> Message-ID: > As to my second question, Gene how thick are those > backlit panels you make? Do you think you could make > one roughly 1/8" thick, or would that be too thin? That would be fine - you can't edge-light something that thin without resorting to EL sheets and that can get pretty expensive. The problem is that there is not enough material to allow the lamps to intrude into the panel interior like a standard Type 5 does. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From cyplesma at aol.com Sun Dec 2 21:53:51 2007 From: cyplesma at aol.com (cyplesma at aol.com) Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 00:53:51 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Circuit question - plus another for Gene In-Reply-To: <2d4bcdb8764747b8aa56cab930cdc457.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> References: <2d4bcdb8764747b8aa56cab930cdc457.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> Message-ID: <8CA03880432ABC4-D0-19D1@FWM-M06.sysops.aol.com> If your more mechanically inclined, and depending on your room available with your design or whatever it is your using. you could have some momentary switches (or opto switches) be pressed (blocked/not blocked) based on the position of the slider. -----Original Message----- From: Brian Sikkema To: simpits-tech at simpits.org Sent: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 9:39 pm Subject: [simpits-tech] Circuit question - plus another for Gene Hey guys, quick q for ya. I'm thinking of building a circuit, and basically what I need is this: I have seven LEDs that need to be lit up in sequential order as a linear pot is moved. So basically as you slide the pot from one end to the other, the LED's all light up (only one lit at any given time) from one end to the other. Idealy it could be adjusted so each LED lights up at a specific resistance, as I need it to be a little non-linear at spots - i.e. I for a couple, the pot would need to be moved 1/2" to move on to the next light, then for others it would only need to be moved a 1/4". Somewhat confusing, I know... but it seems like it should be doable. But I'm no EE so I dunno how. Simpler the better, though. Not looking to sink a whole lotta money or time into this project. As to my second question, Gene how thick are those backlit panels you make? Do you think you could make one roughly 1/8" thick, or would that be too thin? 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URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20071202/81328471/attachment.html From bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil Mon Dec 3 06:39:01 2007 From: bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil (Brian Sikkema) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 09:39:01 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Circuit question - plus another for Gene Message-ID: <7fa9c4ef2ba34fb3a1a7d3949cbe58c7.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> I had thought of that, too, but this is something that will be cycled quite a bit, and I'm afraid of things wearing out/breaking, plus it would be a lot more involved on construction than I would like. As for the PIC route, that's kinda what I was expecting... In fact I think I have a BASIC stamp around here somewhere not being used... gonna have to look up the spec sheets and see if that can do it. I bet it can... And Gene, what if something were truly /back/ lit. I'm gonna have the light bulbs behind this panel. Shouldn't be an issue, right? Brian >------- Original Message ------- >From : cyplesma at aol.com[mailto:cyplesma at aol.com] >Sent : 12/3/2007 12:53:51 AM >To : simpits-tech at simpits.org >Cc : >Subject : RE: Re: [simpits-tech] Circuit question - plus another for Gene > > If your more mechanically inclined, and depending on your room available with your design or whatever it is your using. you could have some momentary switches (or opto switches) be pressed (blocked/not blocked) based on the position of the slider. -----Original Message----- From: Brian Sikkema To: simpits-tech at simpits.org Sent: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 9:39 pm Subject: [simpits-tech] Circuit question - plus another for Gene Hey guys, quick q for ya. I'm thinking of building a circuit, and basically what I need is this: I have seven LEDs that need to be lit up in sequential order as a linear pot is moved. So basically as you slide the pot from one end to the other, the LED's all light up (only one lit at any given time) from one end to the other. Idealy it could be adjusted so each LED lights up at a specific resistance, as I need it to be a little non-linear at spots - i.e. I for a couple, the pot would need to be moved 1/2" to move on to the next light, then for others it would only need to be moved a 1/4". Somewhat confusing, I know... but it seems like it should be doable. But I'm no EE so I dunno how. Simpler the better, though. Not looking to sink a whole lotta money or time into this project. As to my second question, Gene how thick are those backlit panels you make? Do you think you could make one roughly 1/8" thick, or would that be too thin? Bria _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://o.aolcdn.com/cdn.webmail.aol.com/mailtour/aol/en-us/text.htm?ncid=aolcmp00050000000003 From realclassclown at yahoo.com Mon Dec 3 08:17:10 2007 From: realclassclown at yahoo.com (Alan Murray) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 08:17:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Circuit question - plus another for Gene In-Reply-To: <2d4bcdb8764747b8aa56cab930cdc457.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> Message-ID: <344311.18151.qm@web52712.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi Brian, Looking for clarification... 1. Are all leds the same color (or at least match the same voltage drop - diff colors have different drops usually)? 2. What are you trying to emulate? i.e. Why does it need to be one led at a time rather than a progress bar style? 3. What is the power source availability (9v from battery, 12vdc from wall transformer, how much current overhead do you have?) 4. What is your budget for the circuit? 5. Just for you or are you considering manufacturing these? Btw, there exists an "audio taper" version of slider pots which is non-linear; they are parabolic in gain meaning that you get a very similar characteristic to what you describe...having to come up to 33-50% to achieve initial threshold and most of its operating range is on the high side. These are the pots used in soundboards. They are higher priced but designed for heavy duty use...here is a reference You are looking for a true slider pot and not a rotational, right? The ref above is for rotational but they make them in the other form as well. I only mention this for your reference not that it is necessarily the part of the solution. Cheers, Alan --- Brian Sikkema wrote: > Hey guys, quick q for ya. > > I'm thinking of building a circuit, and basically > what I need is this: I have seven LEDs that need to > be lit up in sequential order as a linear pot is > moved. So basically as you slide the pot from one > end > to the other, the LED's all light up (only one lit > at > any given time) from one end to the other. > > Idealy it could be adjusted so each LED lights up at > a specific resistance, as I need it to be a little > non-linear at spots - i.e. I for a couple, the pot > would need to be moved 1/2" to move on to the next > light, then for others it would only need to be > moved > a 1/4". > > Somewhat confusing, I know... but it seems like it > should be doable. But I'm no EE so I dunno how. > Simpler the better, though. Not looking to sink a > whole lotta money or time into this project. > > As to my second question, Gene how thick are those > backlit panels you make? Do you think you could make > one roughly 1/8" thick, or would that be too thin? > > Bria > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the > bottom of the above page. Thanks! > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil Mon Dec 3 09:38:27 2007 From: bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil (Brian Sikkema) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 12:38:27 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Circuit question - plus another for Gene Message-ID: <53a158f8890d4546a80a6e5d15a71a5c.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> >Looking for clarification... No problemo. :) >1. Are all leds the same color (or at least match the >same voltage drop - diff colors have different drops >usually)? Could go either way. If it would significantly simplify things to have all one color, I'll do all one color. >2. What are you trying to emulate? i.e. Why does it >need to be one led at a time rather than a progress >bar style? It's going to be for a car, the gearshift indicator on the dash. I.e. Park, Neutral, Overdrive, Drive, etc. >3. What is the power source availability (9v from >battery, 12vdc from wall transformer, how much current >overhead do you have?) 12V, current should be plenty for whatever is needed. >4. What is your budget for the circuit? Meh. Dunno really. This is a project for "sometime down the road" anyway. Since this is just a small part of the overall project I don't think too much, but no hard number for that one. >5. Just for you or are you considering manufacturing >these? Just for me right now, but the possibility of making more has occured to me... Would depend on the kind of demand I could drum up. If I get mine done and other people like the look, I may definitely look at making more for fun and profit. ;) >Btw, there exists an "audio taper" version of slider >pots which is non-linear; they are parabolic in gain >meaning that you get a very similar characteristic to >what you describe...having to come up to 33-50% to >achieve initial threshold and most of its operating >range is on the high side. These are the pots used in >soundboards. They are higher priced but designed for >heavy duty use...here is a reference > Yeah I had thought of this, but I don't think an audio taper would work in this instance. >You are looking for a true slider pot and not a >rotational, right? The ref above is for rotational but >they make them in the other form as well. I only >mention this for your reference not that it is >necessarily the part of the solution. Yep definitely a slider. The stock unit has a small cable that comes up from the gearshift which moves the mechanical indicator, which is spring-loaded to pull back to the "park" position. Basically my thought is to re-use that stock cable, but hooked to a slider to control the LEDs. Thanks for the help! Brian From realclassclown at yahoo.com Mon Dec 3 10:17:25 2007 From: realclassclown at yahoo.com (Alan Murray) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 10:17:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Circuit question - plus another for Gene In-Reply-To: <53a158f8890d4546a80a6e5d15a71a5c.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> Message-ID: <664020.92277.qm@web52705.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I haven't really helped yet but I've got a mockup begun in my chickenscratch handwriting...I need to find a CAD or other package to make it pretty for you...I'm going to work in the different colors by leaving resistor values indeterminant until we know a little about the led color (current) choices. I'm working on it... Alan --- Brian Sikkema wrote: > >Looking for clarification... > No problemo. :) > > >1. Are all leds the same color (or at least match > the > >same voltage drop - diff colors have different > drops > >usually)? > Could go either way. If it would significantly > simplify things to have all one color, I'll do all > one color. > > > >2. What are you trying to emulate? i.e. Why does it > >need to be one led at a time rather than a progress > >bar style? > It's going to be for a car, the gearshift indicator > on the dash. I.e. Park, Neutral, Overdrive, Drive, > etc. > > > >3. What is the power source availability (9v from > >battery, 12vdc from wall transformer, how much > current > >overhead do you have?) > 12V, current should be plenty for whatever is > needed. > > >4. What is your budget for the circuit? > Meh. Dunno really. This is a project for "sometime > down the road" anyway. Since this is just a small > part of the overall project > I don't think too much, but no hard number for that > one. > > >5. Just for you or are you considering > manufacturing > >these? > Just for me right now, but the possibility of making > more has occured to me... Would depend on the kind > of demand I could drum > up. If I get mine done and other people like the > look, I may definitely look at making more for fun > and profit. ;) > > >Btw, there exists an "audio taper" version of > slider > >pots which is non-linear; they are parabolic in > gain > >meaning that you get a very similar characteristic > to > >what you describe...having to come up to 33-50% to > >achieve initial threshold and most of its operating > >range is on the high side. These are the pots used > in > >soundboards. They are higher priced but designed > for > >heavy duty use...here is a reference > > > Yeah I had thought of this, but I don't think an > audio taper would work in this instance. > > > >You are looking for a true slider pot and not a > >rotational, right? The ref above is for rotational > but > >they make them in the other form as well. I only > >mention this for your reference not that it is > >necessarily the part of the solution. > > Yep definitely a slider. The stock unit has a small > cable that comes up from the gearshift which moves > the mechanical indicator, > which is spring-loaded to pull back to the "park" > position. Basically my thought is to re-use that > stock cable, but hooked to a > slider to control the LEDs. > > Thanks for the help! > Brian > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the > bottom of the above page. Thanks! > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping From pigi at frumar.it Mon Dec 3 12:24:26 2007 From: pigi at frumar.it (pigi at frumar.it) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 21:24:26 +0100 Subject: [simpits-tech] Circuit question - plus another for Gene (Joseph Fagner) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200712032124.26326.pigi@frumar.it> An easy way would be to use a simple LM 3914 ( http://www.national.com/pf/LM/LM3914.html ) "The LM3914 is a monolithic integrated circuit that senses analog voltage levels and drives 10 LEDs, providing a linear analog display" Thus you can use your slider to change the voltage in input and you get a nice line of led lit up as output. onhttp://www.national.com/an/LB/LB-48.pdf there is an application note you can use almost directly for your needs. Just change R1 and R2 with your slider, connecting one external pin at the end of R1 ( toward the D1 connection ), the other external pin at the end of R2 (toward ground) and the central pin toward the signal input. Use a 30/50k (linear ) potentiometer ( slider ) and you should be done. Hope this helps. Pigi From rhommel at mad.scientist.com Mon Dec 3 12:14:42 2007 From: rhommel at mad.scientist.com (Rob Hommel) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 15:14:42 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Circuit question - plus another for Gene Message-ID: <20071203201442.963D41CE5F5@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> would a logarithmic pot work instead of a linear pot? Log pots are typically used for sound as they vary for Db changes. Keep 'em Flying Rob Hommel ----- Original Message ----- From: cyplesma at aol.com To: simpits-tech at simpits.org Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Circuit question - plus another for Gene Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 00:53:51 -0500 If your more mechanically inclined, and depending on your room available with your design or whatever it is your using. you could have some momentary switches (or opto switches) be pressed (blocked/not blocked) based on the position of the slider. -----Original Message----- From: Brian Sikkema To: simpits-tech at simpits.org Sent: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 9:39 pm Subject: [simpits-tech] Circuit question - plus another for Gene Hey guys, quick q for ya. I'm thinking of building a circuit, and basically what I need is this: I have seven LEDs that need to be lit up in sequential order as a linear pot is moved. So basically as you slide the pot from one end to the other, the LED's all light up (only one lit at any given time) from one end to the other. Idealy it could be adjusted so each LED lights up at a specific resistance, as I need it to be a little non-linear at spots - i.e. I for a couple, the pot would need to be moved 1/2" to move on to the next light, then for others it would only need to be moved a 1/4". Somewhat confusing, I know... but it seems like it should be doable. But I'm no EE so I dunno how. Simpler the better, though. Not looking to sink a whole lotta money or time into this project. As to my second question, Gene how thick are those backlit panels you make? Do you think you could make one roughly 1/8" thick, or would that be too thin? Bria _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! ________________________________ More new features than ever. 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Thanks! -- Over 2 Million Holiday Gift Ideas - Take a Look! mail.com shopping at http://mail.shopping.com/?linkin_id=8033174 From cyplesma at aol.com Mon Dec 3 12:36:14 2007 From: cyplesma at aol.com (cyplesma at aol.com) Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:36:14 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Circuit question - plus another for Gene In-Reply-To: <7fa9c4ef2ba34fb3a1a7d3949cbe58c7.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> References: <7fa9c4ef2ba34fb3a1a7d3949cbe58c7.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> Message-ID: <8CA0403482998DB-600-72@webmail-de10.sysops.aol.com> yes the basic stamp even has that type of circuit in one of their books as an example of things to do with the stamp. -----Original Message----- From: Brian Sikkema To: simpits-tech at simpits.org Sent: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 9:39 am Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Circuit question - plus another for Gene I had thought of that, too, but this is something that will be cycled quite a bit, and I'm afraid of things wearing out/breaking, plus it would be a lot more involved on construction than I would like. As for the PIC route, that's kinda what I was expecting... In fact I think I have a BASIC stamp around here somewhere not being used... gonna have to look up the spec sheets and see if that can do it. I bet it can... And Gene, what if something were truly /back/ lit. I'm gonna have the light bulbs behind this panel. Shouldn't be an issue, right? Brian >------- Original Message ------- >From : cyplesma at aol.com[mailto:cyplesma at aol.com] >Sent : 12/3/2007 12:53:51 AM >To : simpits-tech at simpits.org >Cc : >Subject : RE: Re: [simpits-tech] Circuit question - plus another for Gene > > If your more mechanically inclined, and depending on your room available with your design or whatever it is your using. you could have some momentary switches (or opto switches) be pressed (blocked/not blocked) based on the position of the slider. -----Original Message----- From: Brian Sikkema To: simpits-tech at simpits.org Sent: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 9:39 pm Subject: [simpits-tech] Circuit question - plus another for Gene Hey guys, quick q for ya. I'm thinking of building a circuit, and basically what I need is this: I have seven LEDs that need to be lit up in sequential order as a linear pot is moved. So basically as you slide the pot from one end to the other, the LED's all light up (only one lit at any given time) from one end to the other. Idealy it could be adjusted so each LED lights up at a specific resistance, as I need it to be a little non-linear at spots - i.e. I for a couple, the pot would need to be moved 1/2" to move on to the next light, then for others it would only need to be moved a 1/4". Somewhat confusing, I know... but it seems like it should be doable. But I'm no EE so I dunno how. Simpler the better, though. Not looking to sink a whole lotta money or time into this project. As to my second question, Gene how thick are those backlit panels you make? Do you think you could make one roughly 1/8" thick, or would that be too thin? Bria _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. 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URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20071203/a0e355e0/attachment.html From phoenixcomm at gmail.com Mon Dec 3 14:40:12 2007 From: phoenixcomm at gmail.com (Cris Harrison) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 16:40:12 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Circuit question - plus another for Gene In-Reply-To: <2d4bcdb8764747b8aa56cab930cdc457.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> References: <2d4bcdb8764747b8aa56cab930cdc457.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> Message-ID: Hi Du why use a pot?! use a few optical recevers and transmiters... then as you slide you control the one thats dark turns on.... TaDa Cris www.phoenixcomm.net/~phnx2000/sim www.phoenixaerospace.us www.avi-tronix.com On Dec 2, 2007 8:39 PM, Brian Sikkema wrote: > Hey guys, quick q for ya. > > I'm thinking of building a circuit, and basically > what I need is this: I have seven LEDs that need to > be lit up in sequential order as a linear pot is > moved. So basically as you slide the pot from one end > to the other, the LED's all light up (only one lit at > any given time) from one end to the other. > > Idealy it could be adjusted so each LED lights up at > a specific resistance, as I need it to be a little > non-linear at spots - i.e. I for a couple, the pot > would need to be moved 1/2" to move on to the next > light, then for others it would only need to be moved > a 1/4". > > Somewhat confusing, I know... but it seems like it > should be doable. But I'm no EE so I dunno how. > Simpler the better, though. Not looking to sink a > whole lotta money or time into this project. > > As to my second question, Gene how thick are those > backlit panels you make? Do you think you could make > one roughly 1/8" thick, or would that be too thin? > > Bria > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20071203/a6d8e732/attachment-0001.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Dec 3 17:54:57 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 17:54:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Circuit question - plus another for Gene In-Reply-To: <7fa9c4ef2ba34fb3a1a7d3949cbe58c7.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> References: <7fa9c4ef2ba34fb3a1a7d3949cbe58c7.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> Message-ID: > And Gene, what if something were truly /back/ lit. > I'm gonna have the light bulbs behind this panel. > Shouldn't be an issue, right? > Then sure, you could do it that way. The best way to do it would be with cold cathode lamps though. LEDs are too directional and incandescents run the risk of heating the plastic to the point where it would begin to soften. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From chevello at rcn.com Mon Dec 3 19:37:48 2007 From: chevello at rcn.com (KD) Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 22:37:48 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Returned from I/ITSEC and why not go mechanical? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4754CB8C.10609@rcn.com> First for the circuit thing. Why not mount one LED in a slider so that the LED moves and illuminates the letter that you want (PRNDL)? Meh, just a thought. I'm lazy when it comes to building circuits. I'd rather play on the mill and lathe :) OK, the trip to I/ITSEC Oh....MY...GAWD.... You guys would be so cooled out you would freeze to death right there in the OC convention center parking lot. I need to get Falcon 4 or LockOn running on something so that I don't feel like I'm going to make an ass out of myself flying someone's sim. As soon as anyone heard where I'm from and what we have contracts for, they all wanted me to fly their sims. And I wasn't even in a flight suit :D Be kind, it was my first trip. I looked around once and there was this Army Colonel pointing an M16 right at me. It's a good thing it had a red cap on the end of the barrel, or I would have hit the deck. It fired a blank (no guns in the house Mom said!) and there was a target that lit up between him and me. I got to talk to a few of the guys cutting LCD glass for MFDs and things, but they didn't want to discuss the Tannas process aside from what a pain it is to set up a clean room. So, no DIY LCD resizing as yet. There were a couple of setups for using multiple low-cost projectors that align the projectors for seamless large size images. Pretty neat. The guy would move the projectors around on the table, then run the autosetup, and the thing would take pictures from a camera, grids and things would show up, then the image came back up looking like one image from 4 projectors. Had a meeting after hours with Barco to see a new projector, but can't talk about it on account of the NDA :( Although I can say that it was NICE!) Tried out a head mount display set that was pretty cool until I turned my head and the lag came into play. Even without the vehicle I was virtually in, moving, I got a little woozy. Another HMD from a company called DEI was see-through, and the image only displayed on a reflective surface inside the sim room. The image was dim and FOV was too narrow though. Interesting concept. More along the Commercial lines, there was a guy had a 3 Plasma screen display that used a screen on either side viewed directly through a filter of some kind (maybe a polarizer) and the center one suspended above, horizontally and viewed through a mirror. You could move 3 or 4 feet to either side and not see the edges of the center screen. It just looked like one 80" wide image. THAT was cool. Ill look through my flyers and see if I can find a link. It might be something someone could do at least a makeshift version of without too much trouble if the center mirror wasn't curved. Some of the new F-35 and F-22 stuff was pretty neat. I did run into one guy when I was hanging out at the PhotoEtch booth that was wearing a flight suit without patches on it. He was asking questions about knobs and what they look like below the panel. It made me think of you guys. I also got to meet Chris Woodul of the giant collection of ejection seats. Pretty cool guy. He was telling us about flying some Saudi businessman's 747-400 that the guy spent $250Mil on jsut the refit after he got the thing. There was lots of cool stuff, too much to really pay attention to all of. Next year should be better, since I won't be so overwhelmed, and maybe I'll have some more jet sim experience to show off with. I'm pretty good in a Yak-3, but the jets have too much crap in them that I have yet to learn. Great show. KeithD From bjones at pipecomp.com.au Tue Dec 4 00:58:22 2007 From: bjones at pipecomp.com.au (Ben Jones) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 17:58:22 +0900 Subject: [simpits-tech] Returned from I/ITSEC and why not go mechanical? References: <4754CB8C.10609@rcn.com> Message-ID: <002301c83653$d3201620$3d00a8c0@bjblackbox> Man I envy anyone that can and does go to some of these big conventions. I Australia the biggest " Sim convention" ive been to was a party at a mates place with several pizza boxes and cartons of beer , with the old LAN running playing falcon with 6 guy's. Kinda pathetic isn't it 8-( Cheers to all Ben West Oz ----- Original Message ----- From: "KD" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 12:37 PM Subject: [simpits-tech] Returned from I/ITSEC and why not go mechanical? > First for the circuit thing. Why not mount one LED in a slider so that > the LED moves and illuminates the letter that you want (PRNDL)? Meh, > just a thought. I'm lazy when it comes to building circuits. I'd rather > play on the mill and lathe :) > > OK, the trip to I/ITSEC > Oh....MY...GAWD.... You guys would be so cooled out you would freeze > to death right there in the OC convention center parking lot. I need to > get Falcon 4 or LockOn running on something so that I don't feel like > I'm going to make an ass out of myself flying someone's sim. As soon as > anyone heard where I'm from and what we have contracts for, they all > wanted me to fly their sims. And I wasn't even in a flight suit :D Be > kind, it was my first trip. > I looked around once and there was this Army Colonel pointing an M16 > right at me. It's a good thing it had a red cap on the end of the > barrel, or I would have hit the deck. It fired a blank (no guns in the > house Mom said!) and there was a target that lit up between him and me. > I got to talk to a few of the guys cutting LCD glass for MFDs and > things, but they didn't want to discuss the Tannas process aside from > what a pain it is to set up a clean room. So, no DIY LCD resizing as yet. > There were a couple of setups for using multiple low-cost projectors > that align the projectors for seamless large size images. Pretty neat. > The guy would move the projectors around on the table, then run the > autosetup, and the thing would take pictures from a camera, grids and > things would show up, then the image came back up looking like one image > from 4 projectors. Had a meeting after hours with Barco to see a new > projector, but can't talk about it on account of the NDA :( Although I > can say that it was NICE!) > Tried out a head mount display set that was pretty cool until I > turned my head and the lag came into play. Even without the vehicle I > was virtually in, moving, I got a little woozy. Another HMD from a > company called DEI was see-through, and the image only displayed on a > reflective surface inside the sim room. The image was dim and FOV was > too narrow though. Interesting concept. > More along the Commercial lines, there was a guy had a 3 Plasma > screen display that used a screen on either side viewed directly through > a filter of some kind (maybe a polarizer) and the center one suspended > above, horizontally and viewed through a mirror. You could move 3 or 4 > feet to either side and not see the edges of the center screen. It just > looked like one 80" wide image. THAT was cool. Ill look through my > flyers and see if I can find a link. It might be something someone could > do at least a makeshift version of without too much trouble if the > center mirror wasn't curved. Some of the new F-35 and F-22 stuff was > pretty neat. > I did run into one guy when I was hanging out at the PhotoEtch booth > that was wearing a flight suit without patches on it. He was asking > questions about knobs and what they look like below the panel. It made > me think of you guys. > I also got to meet Chris Woodul of the giant collection of ejection > seats. Pretty cool guy. He was telling us about flying some Saudi > businessman's 747-400 that the guy spent $250Mil on jsut the refit after > he got the thing. > There was lots of cool stuff, too much to really pay attention to > all of. Next year should be better, since I won't be so overwhelmed, and > maybe I'll have some more jet sim experience to show off with. I'm > pretty good in a Yak-3, but the jets have too much crap in them that I > have yet to learn. Great show. > > KeithD > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! From crease-guard at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 4 05:07:57 2007 From: crease-guard at sbcglobal.net (Joseph Fagner) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 07:07:57 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Returned from I/ITSEC and why not go mechanical? In-Reply-To: <002301c83653$d3201620$3d00a8c0@bjblackbox> References: <4754CB8C.10609@rcn.com> <002301c83653$d3201620$3d00a8c0@bjblackbox> Message-ID: <011801c83676$b0ca54f0$1900a8c0@flightsystems> Don't feel too bad. I went last year and yes it's impressive but in the end you realize that we home builders are knats compared to these other guys. These are multi-million dollar companies with lots of resources and lots of smart people on the payrolls. Jay -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Ben Jones Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 2:58 AM To: Simulator Cockpit tech list Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Returned from I/ITSEC and why not go mechanical? Man I envy anyone that can and does go to some of these big conventions. I Australia the biggest " Sim convention" ive been to was a party at a mates place with several pizza boxes and cartons of beer , with the old LAN running playing falcon with 6 guy's. Kinda pathetic isn't it 8-( Cheers to all Ben West Oz ----- Original Message ----- From: "KD" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 12:37 PM Subject: [simpits-tech] Returned from I/ITSEC and why not go mechanical? > First for the circuit thing. Why not mount one LED in a slider so that > the LED moves and illuminates the letter that you want (PRNDL)? Meh, > just a thought. I'm lazy when it comes to building circuits. I'd rather > play on the mill and lathe :) > > OK, the trip to I/ITSEC > Oh....MY...GAWD.... You guys would be so cooled out you would freeze > to death right there in the OC convention center parking lot. I need to > get Falcon 4 or LockOn running on something so that I don't feel like > I'm going to make an ass out of myself flying someone's sim. As soon as > anyone heard where I'm from and what we have contracts for, they all > wanted me to fly their sims. And I wasn't even in a flight suit :D Be > kind, it was my first trip. > I looked around once and there was this Army Colonel pointing an M16 > right at me. It's a good thing it had a red cap on the end of the > barrel, or I would have hit the deck. It fired a blank (no guns in the > house Mom said!) and there was a target that lit up between him and me. > I got to talk to a few of the guys cutting LCD glass for MFDs and > things, but they didn't want to discuss the Tannas process aside from > what a pain it is to set up a clean room. So, no DIY LCD resizing as yet. > There were a couple of setups for using multiple low-cost projectors > that align the projectors for seamless large size images. Pretty neat. > The guy would move the projectors around on the table, then run the > autosetup, and the thing would take pictures from a camera, grids and > things would show up, then the image came back up looking like one image > from 4 projectors. Had a meeting after hours with Barco to see a new > projector, but can't talk about it on account of the NDA :( Although I > can say that it was NICE!) > Tried out a head mount display set that was pretty cool until I > turned my head and the lag came into play. Even without the vehicle I > was virtually in, moving, I got a little woozy. Another HMD from a > company called DEI was see-through, and the image only displayed on a > reflective surface inside the sim room. The image was dim and FOV was > too narrow though. Interesting concept. > More along the Commercial lines, there was a guy had a 3 Plasma > screen display that used a screen on either side viewed directly through > a filter of some kind (maybe a polarizer) and the center one suspended > above, horizontally and viewed through a mirror. You could move 3 or 4 > feet to either side and not see the edges of the center screen. It just > looked like one 80" wide image. THAT was cool. Ill look through my > flyers and see if I can find a link. It might be something someone could > do at least a makeshift version of without too much trouble if the > center mirror wasn't curved. Some of the new F-35 and F-22 stuff was > pretty neat. > I did run into one guy when I was hanging out at the PhotoEtch booth > that was wearing a flight suit without patches on it. He was asking > questions about knobs and what they look like below the panel. It made > me think of you guys. > I also got to meet Chris Woodul of the giant collection of ejection > seats. Pretty cool guy. He was telling us about flying some Saudi > businessman's 747-400 that the guy spent $250Mil on jsut the refit after > he got the thing. > There was lots of cool stuff, too much to really pay attention to > all of. Next year should be better, since I won't be so overwhelmed, and > maybe I'll have some more jet sim experience to show off with. I'm > pretty good in a Yak-3, but the jets have too much crap in them that I > have yet to learn. Great show. > > KeithD > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From cyplesma at aol.com Wed Dec 5 07:37:36 2007 From: cyplesma at aol.com (cyplesma at aol.com) Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 10:37:36 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Returned from I/ITSEC and why not go mechanical? In-Reply-To: <011801c83676$b0ca54f0$1900a8c0@flightsystems> References: <4754CB8C.10609@rcn.com> <002301c83653$d3201620$3d00a8c0@bjblackbox> <011801c83676$b0ca54f0$1900a8c0@flightsystems> Message-ID: <8CA056BE526277C-340-9164@mblk-d38.sysops.aol.com> besides that if you got 6 fiends/mates that you can have over to do a lan party with your still actually doing better then the mega million dollar sim builders. just my HO -----Original Message----- From: Joseph Fagner To: 'Simulator Cockpit tech list' Sent: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 8:07 am Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Returned from I/ITSEC and why not go mechanical? Don't feel too bad. I went last year and yes it's impressive but in the end you realize that we home builders are knats compared to these other guys. These are multi-million dollar companies with lots of resources and lots of smart people on the payrolls. Jay -----Original Message----- From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Ben Jones Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 2:58 AM To: Simulator Cockpit tech list Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Returned from I/ITSEC and why not go mechanical? Man I envy anyone that can and does go to some of these big conventions. I Australia the biggest " Sim convention" ive been to was a party at a mates place with several pizza boxes and cartons of beer , with the old LAN running playing falcon with 6 guy's. Kinda pathetic isn't it 8-( Cheers to all Ben West Oz ----- Original Message ----- From: "KD" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 12:37 PM Subject: [simpits-tech] Returned from I/ITSEC and why not go mechanical? > First for the circuit thing. Why not mount one LED in a slider so that > the LED moves and illuminates the letter that you want (PRNDL)? Meh, > just a thought. I'm lazy when it comes to building circuits. I'd rather > play on the mill and lathe :) > > OK, the trip to I/ITSEC > Oh....MY...GAWD.... You guys would be so cooled out you would freeze > to death right there in the OC convention center parking lot. I need to > get Falcon 4 or LockOn running on something so that I don't feel like > I'm going to make an ass out of myself flying someone's sim. As soon as > anyone heard where I'm from and what we have contracts for, they all > wanted me to fly their sims. And I wasn't even in a flight suit :D Be > kind, it was my first trip. > I looked around once and there was this Army Colonel pointing an M16 > right at me. It's a good thing it had a red cap on the end of the > barrel, or I would have hit the deck. It fired a blank (no guns in the > house Mom said!) and there was a target that lit up between him and me. > I got to talk to a few of the guys cutting LCD glass for MFDs and > things, but they didn't want to discuss the Tannas process aside from > what a pain it is to set up a clean room. So, no DIY LCD resizing as yet. > There were a couple of setups for using multiple low-cost projectors > that align the projectors for seamless large size images. Pretty neat. > The guy would move the projectors around on the table, then run the > autosetup, and the thing would take pictures from a camera, grids and > things would show up, then the image came back up looking like one image > from 4 projectors. Had a meeting after hours with Barco to see a new > projector, but can't talk about it on account of the NDA :( Although I > can say that it was NICE!) > Tried out a head mount display set that was pretty cool until I > turned my head and the lag came into play. Even without the vehicle I > was virtually in, moving, I got a little woozy. Another HMD from a > company called DEI was see-through, and the image only displayed on a > reflective surface inside the sim room. The image was dim and FOV was > too narrow though. Interesting concept. > More along the Commercial lines, there was a guy had a 3 Plasma > screen display that used a screen on either side viewed directly through > a filter of some kind (maybe a polarizer) and the center one suspended > above, horizontally and viewed through a mirror. You could move 3 or 4 > feet to either side and not see the edges of the center screen. It just > looked like one 80" wide image. THAT was cool. Ill look through my > flyers and see if I can find a link. It might be something someone could > do at least a makeshift version of without too much trouble if the > center mirror wasn't curved. Some of the new F-35 and F-22 stuff was > pretty neat. > I did run into one guy when I was hanging out at the PhotoEtch booth > that was wearing a flight suit without patches on it. He was asking > questions about knobs and what they look like below the panel. It made > me think of you guys. > I also got to meet Chris Woodul of the giant collection of ejection > seats. Pretty cool guy. He was telling us about flying some Saudi > businessman's 747-400 that the guy spent $250Mil on jsut the refit after > he got the thing. > There was lots of cool stuff, too much to really pay attention to > all of. Next year should be better, since I won't be so overwhelmed, and > maybe I'll have some more jet sim experience to show off with. I'm > pretty good in a Yak-3, but the jets have too much crap in them that I > have yet to learn. Great show. > > KeithD > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. 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URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20071206/4989c3f2/attachment.html From realclassclown at yahoo.com Thu Dec 6 11:10:13 2007 From: realclassclown at yahoo.com (Alan Murray) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 11:10:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Circuit question - plus another for Gene In-Reply-To: <53a158f8890d4546a80a6e5d15a71a5c.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> Message-ID: <372084.8743.qm@web52706.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi Brian, I sent the first part of the circuit you requested to your email on Tuesday but haven't heard from you so I didn't know if the AF is placing me in the spam category or not. I've got the 2nd part designed and plan to breadboard both parts over the next couple of days and then test it in the beginning of next week. I also have a few pages of documentation for it ready as well as both sets of schematics. I hope other Simpits members will find it useful...I need to finalize and test before turning it out to the group. The circuit is capable of more than you intended...I think you will like it..looks like $5 or $6 in parts probably. Cheers, Alan --- Brian Sikkema wrote: > >Looking for clarification... > No problemo. :) > > >1. Are all leds the same color (or at least match > the > >same voltage drop - diff colors have different > drops > >usually)? > Could go either way. If it would significantly > simplify things to have all one color, I'll do all > one color. > > > >2. What are you trying to emulate? i.e. Why does it > >need to be one led at a time rather than a progress > >bar style? > It's going to be for a car, the gearshift indicator > on the dash. I.e. Park, Neutral, Overdrive, Drive, > etc. > > > >3. What is the power source availability (9v from > >battery, 12vdc from wall transformer, how much > current > >overhead do you have?) > 12V, current should be plenty for whatever is > needed. > > >4. What is your budget for the circuit? > Meh. Dunno really. This is a project for "sometime > down the road" anyway. Since this is just a small > part of the overall project > I don't think too much, but no hard number for that > one. > > >5. Just for you or are you considering > manufacturing > >these? > Just for me right now, but the possibility of making > more has occured to me... Would depend on the kind > of demand I could drum > up. If I get mine done and other people like the > look, I may definitely look at making more for fun > and profit. ;) > > >Btw, there exists an "audio taper" version of > slider > >pots which is non-linear; they are parabolic in > gain > >meaning that you get a very similar characteristic > to > >what you describe...having to come up to 33-50% to > >achieve initial threshold and most of its operating > >range is on the high side. These are the pots used > in > >soundboards. They are higher priced but designed > for > >heavy duty use...here is a reference > > > Yeah I had thought of this, but I don't think an > audio taper would work in this instance. > > > >You are looking for a true slider pot and not a > >rotational, right? The ref above is for rotational > but > >they make them in the other form as well. I only > >mention this for your reference not that it is > >necessarily the part of the solution. > > Yep definitely a slider. The stock unit has a small > cable that comes up from the gearshift which moves > the mechanical indicator, > which is spring-loaded to pull back to the "park" > position. Basically my thought is to re-use that > stock cable, but hooked to a > slider to control the LEDs. > > Thanks for the help! > Brian > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the > bottom of the above page. Thanks! > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil Thu Dec 6 11:17:26 2007 From: bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil (Brian Sikkema) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 14:17:26 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] Circuit question - plus another for Gene Message-ID: <83d66b6c81c44cef8ace459837771162.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> Hey Alan, Yeah I did get your email, sorry I was on cross country since Tuesday, got back late last night and hadn't had time to reply. Thanks for the work, this is great! I look forward to giving it a shot myself... Brian >------- Original Message ------- >From : Alan Murray[mailto:realclassclown at yahoo.com] >Sent : 12/6/2007 2:10:13 PM >To : simpits-tech at simpits.org >Cc : >Subject : RE: Re: [simpits-tech] Circuit question - plus another for Gene > >Hi Brian, I sent the first part of the circuit you requested to your email on Tuesday but haven't heard from you so I didn't know if the AF is placing me in the spam category or not. I've got the 2nd part designed and plan to breadboard both parts over the next couple of days and then test it in the beginning of next week. I also have a few pages of documentation for it ready as well as both sets of schematics. I hope other Simpits members will find it useful...I need to finalize and test before turning it out to the group. The circuit is capable of more than you intended...I think you will like it..looks like $5 or $6 in parts probably. Cheers, Alan --- Brian Sikkema wrote: > >Looking for clarification... > No problemo. :) > > >1. Are all leds the same color (or at least match > the > >same voltage drop - diff colors have different > drops > >usually)? > Could go either way. If it would significantly > simplify things to have all one color, I'll do all > one color. > > > >2. What are you trying to emulate? i.e. Why does it > >need to be one led at a time rather than a progress > >bar style? > It's going to be for a car, the gearshift indicator > on the dash. I.e. Park, Neutral, Overdrive, Drive, > etc. > > > >3. What is the power source availability (9v from > >battery, 12vdc from wall transformer, how much > current > >overhead do you have?) > 12V, current should be plenty for whatever is > needed. > > >4. What is your budget for the circuit? > Meh. Dunno really. This is a project for "sometime > down the road" anyway. Since this is just a small > part of the overall project > I don't think too much, but no hard number for that > one. > > >5. Just for you or are you considering > manufacturing > >these? > Just for me right now, but the possibility of making > more has occured to me... Would depend on the kind > of demand I could drum > up. If I get mine done and other people like the > look, I may definitely look at making more for fun > and profit. ;) > > >Btw, there exists an "audio taper" version of > slider > >pots which is non-linear; they are parabolic in > gain > >meaning that you get a very similar characteristic > to > >what you describe...having to come up to 33-50% to > >achieve initial threshold and most of its operating > >range is on the high side. These are the pots used > in > >soundboards. They are higher priced but designed > for > >heavy duty use...here is a reference > > > Yeah I had thought of this, but I don't think an > audio taper would work in this instance. > > > >You are looking for a true slider pot and not a > >rotational, right? The ref above is for rotational > but > >they make them in the other form as well. I only > >mention this for your reference not that it is > >necessarily the part of the solution. > > Yep definitely a slider. The stock unit has a small > cable that comes up from the gearshift which moves > the mechanical indicator, > which is spring-loaded to pull back to the "park" > position. Basically my thought is to re-use that > stock cable, but hooked to a > slider to control the LEDs. > > Thanks for the help! > Brian > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the > bottom of the above page. Thanks! > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From realclassclown at yahoo.com Thu Dec 6 16:55:31 2007 From: realclassclown at yahoo.com (Alan Murray) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 16:55:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Circuit question - plus another for Gene In-Reply-To: <83d66b6c81c44cef8ace459837771162.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> Message-ID: <17565.9270.qm@web52710.mail.re2.yahoo.com> The pinouts aren't right because I couldn't figure out how to edit those attributes..look at the first flip-flop and then the second and you'll see they have the same pins which is incorrect...I'll try to get this corrected..any gEDA users in the group? The output section will drive any LEDs you want including the Superbrights @ 30mA...I just ordered Super Blues, Super Whites, and the Super UV LEDs to test with this...can't wait to see the UV..they cost enough at $1.39 each, double what the previous two cost. Now I need to drag out those old blacklight posters..;) Hey, what do you fly? WC-130? KC-141? Alan --- Brian Sikkema wrote: > Hey Alan, > > Yeah I did get your email, sorry I was on cross > country since Tuesday, got back late last night and > hadn't had time to reply. > Thanks for the work, this is great! > > I look forward to giving it a shot myself... > > Brian ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From allendc at qwest.net Thu Dec 6 18:33:22 2007 From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen) Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 19:33:22 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] Returned from I/ITSEC and why not go mechanical? In-Reply-To: <4754CB8C.10609@rcn.com> References: <4754CB8C.10609@rcn.com> Message-ID: <20071207023123.16CC31A9A8C@mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net> Did you see Microsoft's ESP at I/ITSEC ? http://www.designtaxi.com/news.jsp?id=13642 Looks like they have jumped into the simulation business David www.737FlightSim.com At 10:37 PM 12/3/2007 -0500, you wrote: >First for the circuit thing. Why not mount one LED in a slider so that >the LED moves and illuminates the letter that you want (PRNDL)? Meh, >just a thought. I'm lazy when it comes to building circuits. I'd rather >play on the mill and lathe :) > >OK, the trip to I/ITSEC > Oh....MY...GAWD.... You guys would be so cooled out you would freeze >to death right there in the OC convention center parking lot. I need to >get Falcon 4 or LockOn running on something so that I don't feel like >I'm going to make an ass out of myself flying someone's sim. As soon as >anyone heard where I'm from and what we have contracts for, they all >wanted me to fly their sims. And I wasn't even in a flight suit :D Be >kind, it was my first trip. > I looked around once and there was this Army Colonel pointing an M16 >right at me. It's a good thing it had a red cap on the end of the >barrel, or I would have hit the deck. It fired a blank (no guns in the >house Mom said!) and there was a target that lit up between him and me. >I got to talk to a few of the guys cutting LCD glass for MFDs and >things, but they didn't want to discuss the Tannas process aside from >what a pain it is to set up a clean room. So, no DIY LCD resizing as yet. > There were a couple of setups for using multiple low-cost projectors >that align the projectors for seamless large size images. Pretty neat. >The guy would move the projectors around on the table, then run the >autosetup, and the thing would take pictures from a camera, grids and >things would show up, then the image came back up looking like one image >from 4 projectors. Had a meeting after hours with Barco to see a new >projector, but can't talk about it on account of the NDA :( Although I >can say that it was NICE!) > Tried out a head mount display set that was pretty cool until I >turned my head and the lag came into play. Even without the vehicle I >was virtually in, moving, I got a little woozy. Another HMD from a >company called DEI was see-through, and the image only displayed on a >reflective surface inside the sim room. The image was dim and FOV was >too narrow though. Interesting concept. > More along the Commercial lines, there was a guy had a 3 Plasma >screen display that used a screen on either side viewed directly through >a filter of some kind (maybe a polarizer) and the center one suspended >above, horizontally and viewed through a mirror. You could move 3 or 4 >feet to either side and not see the edges of the center screen. It just >looked like one 80" wide image. THAT was cool. Ill look through my >flyers and see if I can find a link. It might be something someone could >do at least a makeshift version of without too much trouble if the >center mirror wasn't curved. Some of the new F-35 and F-22 stuff was >pretty neat. > I did run into one guy when I was hanging out at the PhotoEtch booth >that was wearing a flight suit without patches on it. He was asking >questions about knobs and what they look like below the panel. It made >me think of you guys. > I also got to meet Chris Woodul of the giant collection of ejection >seats. Pretty cool guy. He was telling us about flying some Saudi >businessman's 747-400 that the guy spent $250Mil on jsut the refit after >he got the thing. > There was lots of cool stuff, too much to really pay attention to >all of. Next year should be better, since I won't be so overwhelmed, and >maybe I'll have some more jet sim experience to show off with. I'm >pretty good in a Yak-3, but the jets have too much crap in them that I >have yet to learn. Great show. > >KeithD >_______________________________________________ >Simpits-tech mailing list >Simpits-tech at simpits.org >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the >above page. Thanks! > > >__________ NOD32 2699 (20071203) Information __________ > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >http://www.eset.com From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Thu Dec 6 20:21:22 2007 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 20:21:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Microsoft ESP Message-ID: <462871.75091.qm@web52009.mail.re2.yahoo.com> here it is on the Microsoft website http://www.microsoft.com/esp/ ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From geneb at deltasoft.com Sun Dec 16 20:35:05 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 20:35:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] panel update... Message-ID: I've updated the f15sim site with pics of the new "production" panel. Came out great! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From sean.g at paradise.net.nz Mon Dec 17 02:01:19 2007 From: sean.g at paradise.net.nz (Sean Galbraith) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:01:19 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] panel update... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0JT600GKXUIES810@smtp3.clear.net.nz> Whoa, That is looking damn sharp! So when do you start up full commercial production? huh? huh? But seriously, very nice work :) Sean At 05:35 p.m. 17/12/2007, you wrote: >I've updated the f15sim site with pics of the new "production" panel. >Came out great! > >g. > > >-- >Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 >http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. >_______________________________________________ >Simpits-tech mailing list >Simpits-tech at simpits.org >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the >above page. Thanks! > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1187 - Release Date: >16/12/2007 11:36 a.m. From sean.g at paradise.net.nz Mon Dec 17 02:08:40 2007 From: sean.g at paradise.net.nz (Sean Galbraith) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:08:40 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] Back Projection Material Message-ID: <0JT6008UCUUNQI30@smtp4.clear.net.nz> I am up to about version 5 of my "how am I going to do my visuals".... And this time I am looking at rear projection, so that I can get the screen nice and close to the nose of the A-4, without loosing any of the image on things like canopy rails. I plan on mounting the projector under the pilots feet, aiming forward to a mirror, then back onto the rear projection screen. I figure I can keep the angles such that I shouldn't get any "hot spot" from directly seeing the centre of the lens.. I hope. Anyone have any clever tips on the sort of material I should be looking at? I have some really really nice stuff at work, proper space age rear pro screen material.. but I comes at a real space age price too... and I think it's a little small for my project. I am looking for an approximately 6' x 4' screen (or 1.6m x 1.2m for those of a metric persuasion). Thoughts, ideas, suggestions? SeanG From gcompc at totalspeed.net Mon Dec 17 14:30:04 2007 From: gcompc at totalspeed.net (N) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:30:04 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] Back Projection Material Message-ID: <200712171530.AA52035862@totalspeed.net> I used a white shower curtain after trying Da-Lite rear screens and a couple of other rear screen solutions. The problem is the projector is fairly close and will produce a hot spot on all the expensive materials no matter what the price. The white plastic shower curtain is able to difuse the light evenly but you will lose some brightness on the viewing side. With a 2000 or more lumen projector focused on the smaller area it still pretty bright. Good luck. ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Sean Galbraith Reply-To: Simulator Cockpit tech list Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:08:40 +1300 >I am up to about version 5 of my "how am I going to do my >visuals".... And this time I am looking at rear projection, so that >I can get the screen nice and close to the nose of the A-4, without >loosing any of the image on things like canopy rails. > >I plan on mounting the projector under the pilots feet, aiming >forward to a mirror, then back onto the rear projection screen. I >figure I can keep the angles such that I shouldn't get any "hot spot" >from directly seeing the centre of the lens.. I hope. > >Anyone have any clever tips on the sort of material I should be looking at? > >I have some really really nice stuff at work, proper space age rear >pro screen material.. but I comes at a real space age price too... >and I think it's a little small for my project. I am looking for an >approximately 6' x 4' screen (or 1.6m x 1.2m for those of a metric persuasion). > >Thoughts, ideas, suggestions? > >SeanG > >_______________________________________________ >Simpits-tech mailing list >Simpits-tech at simpits.org >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at totalspeed.net From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Dec 17 17:39:12 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:39:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] panel update... In-Reply-To: <0JT600GKXUIES810@smtp3.clear.net.nz> References: <0JT600GKXUIES810@smtp3.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: > That is looking damn sharp! So when do you start up full commercial > production? huh? huh? > Ermm. It'll be a while. :) > But seriously, very nice work :) > Thanks! I've waited 7 years to post those pictures and it's a great feeling. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From sean.g at paradise.net.nz Tue Dec 18 00:50:07 2007 From: sean.g at paradise.net.nz (Sean Galbraith) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 21:50:07 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] panel update... In-Reply-To: References: <0JT600GKXUIES810@smtp3.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: <0JT8002EGLVS1510@smtp4.clear.net.nz> At 02:39 p.m. 18/12/2007, you wrote: > > That is looking damn sharp! So when do you start up full commercial > > production? huh? huh? > > >Ermm. It'll be a while. :) Dang ;-) So I'll have to put off my F-15 sim then... ahh well > > But seriously, very nice work :) > > >Thanks! I've waited 7 years to post those pictures and it's a great >feeling. Know the feeling..... not in the same league, but I learned Autocad, just to be able to make some engraved (non backlit) panels, and the stupid schoolgirl giggling as the thing came off the mill was unbelievable.... SeanG From sean.g at paradise.net.nz Tue Dec 18 01:19:28 2007 From: sean.g at paradise.net.nz (Sean Galbraith) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:19:28 +1300 Subject: [simpits-tech] Back Projection Material In-Reply-To: <200712171530.AA52035862@totalspeed.net> References: <200712171530.AA52035862@totalspeed.net> Message-ID: <0JT8002F6N8Q1520@smtp4.clear.net.nz> I was thinking about trying the old shower curtain idea :) Sadly, having some samples of really cool stuff at work I keep going back to them... but the cost And, I have seen a back pro material which doesn't give a hot spot. Very cool stuff it is too! SeanG At 11:30 a.m. 18/12/2007, you wrote: >I used a white shower curtain after trying Da-Lite rear screens and >a couple of other rear screen solutions. The problem is the >projector is fairly close and will produce a hot spot on all the >expensive materials no matter what the price. The white plastic >shower curtain is able to difuse the light evenly but you will lose >some brightness on the viewing side. With a 2000 or more lumen >projector focused on the smaller area it still pretty bright. Good luck. >---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >From: Sean Galbraith >Reply-To: Simulator Cockpit tech list >Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:08:40 +1300 > > >I am up to about version 5 of my "how am I going to do my > >visuals".... And this time I am looking at rear projection, so that > >I can get the screen nice and close to the nose of the A-4, without > >loosing any of the image on things like canopy rails. > > > >I plan on mounting the projector under the pilots feet, aiming > >forward to a mirror, then back onto the rear projection screen. I > >figure I can keep the angles such that I shouldn't get any "hot spot" > >from directly seeing the centre of the lens.. I hope. > > > >Anyone have any clever tips on the sort of material I should be looking at? > > > >I have some really really nice stuff at work, proper space age rear > >pro screen material.. but I comes at a real space age price too... > >and I think it's a little small for my project. I am looking for an > >approximately 6' x 4' screen (or 1.6m x 1.2m for those of a metric > persuasion). > > > >Thoughts, ideas, suggestions? > > > >SeanG > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Simpits-tech mailing list > >Simpits-tech at simpits.org > >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the > above page. Thanks! > > > > > > > >________________________________________________________________ >Sent via the WebMail system at totalspeed.net > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Simpits-tech mailing list >Simpits-tech at simpits.org >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the >above page. Thanks! > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1187 - Release Date: >16/12/2007 11:36 a.m. From geneb at deltasoft.com Tue Dec 18 20:29:47 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:29:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] panel update... In-Reply-To: <0JT8002EGLVS1510@smtp4.clear.net.nz> References: <0JT600GKXUIES810@smtp3.clear.net.nz> <0JT8002EGLVS1510@smtp4.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: > At 02:39 p.m. 18/12/2007, you wrote: >>> That is looking damn sharp! So when do you start up full commercial >>> production? huh? huh? >>> >> Ermm. It'll be a while. :) > > Dang ;-) So I'll have to put off my F-15 sim then... ahh well > Yep. :) >>> But seriously, very nice work :) >>> >> Thanks! I've waited 7 years to post those pictures and it's a great >> feeling. > > Know the feeling..... not in the same league, but I learned Autocad, > just to be able to make some engraved (non backlit) panels, and the > stupid schoolgirl giggling as the thing came off the mill was unbelievable.... > The giggling didn't start until I fired up the laser. Then it was pretty bad. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Wed Dec 19 16:05:05 2007 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 00:05:05 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] OT: This simpit builder has a new apprentice. (fwd) Message-ID: Apologies for the cross posting. I am rather pleased to announce the birth this morning of my daughter Megan - our first child, the one the 'experts' said we'd never have. Mother and daughter are doing really well and I have this evening been fulfilling my moral obligations and have duly wetted the babies head :-) Now, where can I buy a pink flight suit for her ?? Daddy Roy. :-) -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dave_friend at tiscali.co.uk Wed Dec 19 17:02:27 2007 From: dave_friend at tiscali.co.uk (Dave) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 01:02:27 -0000 Subject: [simpits-tech] OT: This simpit builder has a new apprentice. (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >Apologies for the cross posting. >I am rather pleased to announce the birth this morning of my daughter >Megan - our first child, the one the 'experts' said we'd never have. >Mother and daughter are doing really well and I have this evening been >fulfilling my moral obligations and have duly wetted the babies head :-) >Now, where can I buy a pink flight suit for her ?? >Daddy Roy. Congratulations Roy Just think in a couple of years how much help Megan will be with those awkward cable and wiring runs 0;) Best wishes to you and your family, and as I'm here, seasons greetings to all on the list. -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 23 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2064 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20071219/6af45ccc/attachment.bin From bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil Wed Dec 19 17:48:14 2007 From: bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil (Brian Sikkema) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 20:48:14 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] OT: This simpit builder has a new apprentice. (fwd) Message-ID: <8f40eded568f49a182e48b9c0f37a550.bjsikkem@gimail.af.mil> WOOOOT!!! :D WTG ROY!!!!!! >------- Original Message ------- >From : Roy Coates[mailto:roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk] >Sent : 12/19/2007 7:05:05 PM >To : x-plane-tech at yahoogroups.com; simpits-tech at simpits.org >Cc : >Subject : RE: [simpits-tech] OT: This simpit builder has a new apprentice. (fwd) > > Apologies for the cross posting. I am rather pleased to announce the birth this morning of my daughter Megan - our first child, the one the 'experts' said we'd never have. Mother and daughter are doing really well and I have this evening been fulfilling my moral obligations and have duly wetted the babies head :-) Now, where can I buy a pink flight suit for her ?? Daddy Roy. :-) -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! From geneb at deltasoft.com Wed Dec 19 18:43:10 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:43:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] OT: This simpit builder has a new apprentice. (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Apologies for the cross posting. > We'll make an exception this once. :) > I am rather pleased to announce the birth this morning of my daughter > Megan - our first child, the one the 'experts' said we'd never have. > > Mother and daughter are doing really well and I have this evening been > fulfilling my moral obligations and have duly wetted the babies head :-) > Congrats! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From idekkers at gmail.com Wed Dec 19 23:26:53 2007 From: idekkers at gmail.com (Ido Dekkers) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 09:26:53 +0200 Subject: [simpits-tech] OT: This simpit builder has a new apprentice. (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <39e5de8d0712192326p51c59b59x4c3fc3c962656006@mail.gmail.com> congrats Roy tough being a father of 2 girls - the worrying just started : ( Ido On Dec 20, 2007 4:43 AM, Gene Buckle wrote: > > Apologies for the cross posting. > > > We'll make an exception this once. :) > > > I am rather pleased to announce the birth this morning of my daughter > > Megan - our first child, the one the 'experts' said we'd never have. > > > > Mother and daughter are doing really well and I have this evening been > > fulfilling my moral obligations and have duly wetted the babies head :-) > > > Congrats! > > g. > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20071219/2861a2b3/attachment.html From bjones at pipecomp.com.au Thu Dec 20 01:04:05 2007 From: bjones at pipecomp.com.au (Ben Jones) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:04:05 +0900 Subject: [simpits-tech] OT: This simpit builder has a new apprentice. (fwd) References: Message-ID: <002001c842e7$45f93e20$3d00a8c0@bjblackbox> Congrats Roy, I've been told by my old man that having kids is fun ! Well at least trying to have them is fun. Regards to mum and bubby. Ben West Oz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Coates" To: ; Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 9:05 AM Subject: [simpits-tech] OT: This simpit builder has a new apprentice. (fwd) > > Apologies for the cross posting. > > I am rather pleased to announce the birth this morning of my daughter > Megan - our first child, the one the 'experts' said we'd never have. > > Mother and daughter are doing really well and I have this evening been > fulfilling my moral obligations and have duly wetted the babies head :-) > > Now, where can I buy a pink flight suit for her ?? > > Daddy Roy. > > :-) > > -- > > Roy Coates. > Dept of Engineering. > Liverpool University. > E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk > Tel: 0151 794 4862 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs > meter. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! From realclassclown at yahoo.com Thu Dec 20 04:39:40 2007 From: realclassclown at yahoo.com (Alan Murray) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 04:39:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] OT: This simpit builder has a new apprentice. (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <976048.63387.qm@web52707.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Congratulations Roy! She'll get to receive double the presents from now on... Did you name her after an airplane? :) Alan --- Roy Coates wrote: > > Apologies for the cross posting. > > I am rather pleased to announce the birth this > morning of my daughter > Megan - our first child, the one the 'experts' said > we'd never have. > > Mother and daughter are doing really well and I have > this evening been > fulfilling my moral obligations and have duly wetted > the babies head :-) > > Now, where can I buy a pink flight suit for her ?? > > Daddy Roy. > > :-) > > -- > > Roy Coates. > Dept of Engineering. > Liverpool University. > E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk > Tel: 0151 794 4862 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please > let it be the Hobbs meter. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the > bottom of the above page. Thanks! > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping From cyplesma at aol.com Thu Dec 20 08:02:21 2007 From: cyplesma at aol.com (cyplesma at aol.com) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 11:02:21 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] OT: This simpit builder has a new apprentice. (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CA1138D6A6EC2F-1120-5416@mblk-d16.sysops.aol.com> congrats indeed!!, check ebay for the suit 8 ) -----Original Message----- From: Roy Coates To: x-plane-tech at yahoogroups.com; simpits-tech at simpits.org Sent: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 7:05 pm Subject: [simpits-tech] OT: This simpit builder has a new apprentice. (fwd) Apologies for the cross posting. I am rather pleased to announce the birth this morning of my daughter Megan - our first child, the one the 'experts' said we'd never have. Mother and daughter are doing really well and I have this evening been fulfilling my moral obligations and have duly wetted the babies head :-) Now, where can I buy a pink flight suit for her ?? Daddy Roy. :-) -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20071220/3fb89617/attachment-0001.html From cyplesma at aol.com Thu Dec 20 08:04:38 2007 From: cyplesma at aol.com (cyplesma at aol.com) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 11:04:38 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] OT: This simpit builder has a new apprentice. (fwd) In-Reply-To: <39e5de8d0712192326p51c59b59x4c3fc3c962656006@mail.gmail.com> References: <39e5de8d0712192326p51c59b59x4c3fc3c962656006@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8CA11392835813B-1120-5437@mblk-d16.sysops.aol.com> father of 4 girls here all in their teens at the moment, remember IT IS A ROLLER COASTER RIDE. so make the best of it while it lasts.? heheheh 8 ) -----Original Message----- From: Ido Dekkers To: Simulator Cockpit tech list Sent: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 2:26 am Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] OT: This simpit builder has a new apprentice. (fwd) congrats Roy tough being a father of 2 girls - the worrying just started : ( Ido On Dec 20, 2007 4:43 AM, Gene Buckle wrote: > Apologies for the cross posting. > We'll make an exception this once. :) > I am rather pleased to announce the birth this morning of my daughter > Megan - our first child, the one the 'experts' said we'd never have. > > Mother and daughter are doing really well and I have this evening been > fulfilling my moral obligations and have duly wetted the babies head :-) > Congrats! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. ?Thanks! _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20071220/7c9abf6c/attachment.html From idekkers at gmail.com Thu Dec 20 09:26:17 2007 From: idekkers at gmail.com (Ido Dekkers) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:26:17 +0200 Subject: [simpits-tech] OT: This simpit builder has a new apprentice. (fwd) In-Reply-To: <8CA1138D6A6EC2F-1120-5416@mblk-d16.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CA1138D6A6EC2F-1120-5416@mblk-d16.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <39e5de8d0712200926x5e8f82cdq2e2bce39914cfb82@mail.gmail.com> here are some suits : http://www.galaxyarmynavy.com/products.asp?cat? lots of these on the web On Dec 20, 2007 6:02 PM, wrote: > congrats indeed!!, check ebay for the suit > > 8 ) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Roy Coates > To: x-plane-tech at yahoogroups.com; simpits-tech at simpits.org > Sent: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 7:05 pm > Subject: [simpits-tech] OT: This simpit builder has a new apprentice. > (fwd) > > > > Apologies for the cross posting. > > > I am rather pleased to announce the birth this morning of my daughter > > Megan - our first child, the one the 'experts' said we'd never have. > > > Mother and daughter are doing really well and I have this evening been > > fulfilling my moral obligations and have duly wetted the babies head :-) > > > Now, where can I buy a pink flight suit for her ?? > > > Daddy Roy. > > > :-) > > > -- > > > Roy Coates. > > Dept of Engineering. > > Liverpool University. > > E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk > > Tel: 0151 794 4862 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. > > Thanks! > > ------------------------------ > More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail > ! > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20071220/0c56ad67/attachment.html From glenslawncare at yahoo.com Thu Dec 20 10:08:52 2007 From: glenslawncare at yahoo.com (Glen singleton) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 10:08:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Why Airplanes Are Better Than Women In-Reply-To: <39e5de8d0712200926x5e8f82cdq2e2bce39914cfb82@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <301300.82527.qm@web52411.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Why Airplanes Are Better Than Women An airplane will kill you quickly . . . a woman takes her time. Airplanes don't take forever to warm up. Airplanes like to do it inverted. Airplanes can be turned on by a flick of switch. You don't always have to be on top to ride an airplane. You can easily leave an airplane before sunrise. Airplane exhaust fumes smell better. An airplane does not get mad if you 'touch and go.' An airplane's performance is seldom hindered by weather. An airplane will not get mad if you ride someone else's airplane. You can calculate the peak performance of an airplane. An airplane is easy to roll over. You can always tell when an airplane is going to give out. An airplane does not object to a preflight inspection. Airplanes come with operating manuals. You can fly an airplane any time of the month. You can share your airplanes with your friends. Airplanes don't care about how many other airplanes you have flown. Airplanes don't care about how many other airplanes you have. Airplanes don't mind if you look at other airplanes, or if you buy airplane magazines. You don't have to be jealous of the guy that works on your airplane. If you say bad things to your airplane, you don't have to say you're sorry before you can fly it again. Your parents don't remain in touch with your old airplane after you dump it. Airplanes always feel like going for a ride. Your airplane never wants a night out with the other airplanes. --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20071220/c67e868a/attachment.html From bass.pumped at gmail.com Thu Dec 20 12:24:15 2007 From: bass.pumped at gmail.com (bass pumped) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:24:15 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] OT: This simpit builder has a new apprentice. (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Dec 19, 2007 6:05 PM, Roy Coates wrote: > > Apologies for the cross posting. > > I am rather pleased to announce the birth this morning of my daughter > Megan - our first child, the one the 'experts' said we'd never have. > > Mother and daughter are doing really well and I have this evening been > fulfilling my moral obligations and have duly wetted the babies head :-) > > Now, where can I buy a pink flight suit for her ?? > > Daddy Roy. > > :-) > > -- > Congrats Roy!! From allendc at qwest.net Thu Dec 20 20:19:58 2007 From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:19:58 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] OT: This simpit builder has a new apprentice. (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20071221042030.3B5E06278C9@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20071220/5d84240b/attachment.html From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Dec 20 21:05:14 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:05:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] OT: This simpit builder has a new apprentice. (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20071221042030.3B5E06278C9@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net> References: <20071221042030.3B5E06278C9@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: > Congratulations Roy, start saving your money, the Bride's Family > typically pays for: > The costs of the reception. > The Bride's Wedding attire/trousseau > Invitations, announcements, thank you notes > The seating assignment chart, napkins and mailing costs > Photographer > Videographer > Ceremony costs > Bridesmaids, flower girl, ring bearer flowers and accessories > All gratuities for all services: parking, security > Bridesmaid luncheon > > and > > Transportation for bridal party on Wedding day from ceremony to > reception, so you add parts for your sim as transportation costs LOL > Sell her now Roy. Sell her NOW. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil Fri Dec 21 03:25:47 2007 From: bjsikkem at gimail.af.mil (Brian Sikkema) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 06:25:47 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] OT: This simpit builder has a new apprentice.(fwd) Message-ID: BWAHAHAHA I wish.... Groom paid for most of that here.... ------- Original Message ------- >From : David C. Allen[mailto:allendc at qwest.net] Sent : 12/20/2007 11:19:58 PM To : simpits-tech at simpits.org Cc : Subject : RE: Re: [simpits-tech] OT: This simpit builder has a new apprentice.(fwd) Congratulations Roy, start saving your money, the Bride's Family typically pays for: The costs of the reception. The Bride's Wedding attire/trousseau Invitations, announcements, thank you notes The seating assignment chart, napkins and mailing costs Photographer Videographer Ceremony costs Bridesmaids, flower girl, ring bearer flowers and accessories All gratuities for all services: parking, security Bridesmaid luncheon and Transportation for bridal party on Wedding day from ceremony to reception, so you add parts for your sim as transportation costs LOL David www.737FlightSim.com At 12:05 AM 12/20/2007 +0000, you wrote: Apologies for the cross posting. I am rather pleased to announce the birth this morning of my daughter Megan - our first child, the one the 'experts' said we'd never have. Mother and daughter are doing really well and I have this evening been fulfilling my moral obligations and have duly wetted the babies head :-) Now, where can I buy a pink flight suit for her ?? Daddy Roy. :-) -- Roy Coates. Dept of Engineering. Liverpool University. E-Mail: r.coates at liv.ac.uk Tel: 0151 794 4862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord, If I must have an instrument failure, please let it be the Hobbs meter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Simpits-tech mailing list Simpits-tech at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! __________ NOD32 2734 (20071219) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com From roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk Fri Dec 21 08:32:37 2007 From: roy at flightlab.liv.ac.uk (Roy Coates) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 16:32:37 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [simpits-tech] OT: This simpit builder has a new apprentice. (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 20 Dec 2007, Gene Buckle wrote: > > Congratulations Roy, start saving your money, the Bride's Family > > typically pays for: > > The costs of the reception. > > The Bride's Wedding attire/trousseau > > Invitations, announcements, thank you notes > > The seating assignment chart, napkins and mailing costs > > Photographer > > Videographer > > Ceremony costs > > Bridesmaids, flower girl, ring bearer flowers and accessories > > All gratuities for all services: parking, security > > Bridesmaid luncheon > > > > and > > > > Transportation for bridal party on Wedding day from ceremony to > > reception, so you add parts for your sim as transportation costs LOL > > > > Sell her now Roy. Sell her NOW. :) I've been on Ebay... but which category do I use ??? From dave_friend at tiscali.co.uk Fri Dec 21 10:09:40 2007 From: dave_friend at tiscali.co.uk (Dave) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 18:09:40 -0000 Subject: [simpits-tech] Maybe flying Sims ain'so bad In-Reply-To: Message-ID: When are pilots really happy http://www.compilots.com/news/article2793.html Dave -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 33 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.6/1192 - Release Date: 21/12/2007 13:17 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 1840 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/simpits-tech/attachments/20071221/f83cc27b/attachment.bin From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Dec 21 22:16:34 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 22:16:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] OT: This simpit builder has a new apprentice. (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >>> Transportation for bridal party on Wedding day from ceremony to >>> reception, so you add parts for your sim as transportation costs LOL >>> >> >> Sell her now Roy. Sell her NOW. :) > > > I've been on Ebay... but which category do I use ??? > Home improvement? :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From jjmessenger at yahoo.com Sun Dec 23 21:00:41 2007 From: jjmessenger at yahoo.com (Justin Messenger) Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 21:00:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] Air Force One sim Message-ID: <705771.92865.qm@web52005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> It took two weeks but we have the Reagan Library's 707 Air Force One sim connected to an EPIC card and also operating with a trim force feedback motor. We had fun test flying it last Friday before we left California. During our time there Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas jumped in to say hi and to take a look, and I instructed Nancy Reagan's chief of staff on a flight. Dont go there looking to get flight time in it though, its going to be used in a program for school kids and for VIPs, its not in a spot where the general public can see it. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From andrevilleneuve_4 at hotmail.com Thu Dec 27 11:43:30 2007 From: andrevilleneuve_4 at hotmail.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Villeneuve?=) Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 14:43:30 -0500 Subject: [simpits-tech] OT: This simpit builder has a new apprentice.(fwd) References: Message-ID: Congratulations Roy! ----- Original Message ----- From: "bass pumped" To: "Simulator Cockpit tech list" Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 3:24 PM Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] OT: This simpit builder has a new apprentice.(fwd) > On Dec 19, 2007 6:05 PM, Roy Coates wrote: >> >> Apologies for the cross posting. >> >> I am rather pleased to announce the birth this morning of my daughter >> Megan - our first child, the one the 'experts' said we'd never have. >> >> Mother and daughter are doing really well and I have this evening been >> fulfilling my moral obligations and have duly wetted the babies head :-) >> >> Now, where can I buy a pink flight suit for her ?? >> >> Daddy Roy. >> >> :-) >> >> -- >> > > > Congrats Roy!! > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above > page. Thanks! > From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Dec 27 23:23:58 2007 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 23:23:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [simpits-tech] F-15 site update... Message-ID: I've updated the site with pics of the completed Fuel panel. I'm really happy with how it turned out! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From rodd at castle.net.au Mon Dec 31 14:11:12 2007 From: rodd at castle.net.au (Rod Dale) Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2008 09:11:12 +1100 Subject: [simpits-tech] F-111 simulator for sale Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080101085454.013c3e70@pop3.idl.com.au> Hi All, Happy New Year to everyone. I'm selling my F-111 simulator so I thought I'd contact this list first to see if anyone would be interested. The simulator can be viewed at http://cust.idl.com.au/0297000123 and is operational. Because I live in Newcastle, NSW, Australia, it's really only practical to sell locally, ie, within trucking distance of my home. I'm not prepared nor have the time to go to the trouble of preparing it for long distance transport, therefore the potential buyer will need to pick it up themselves. I'm asking AU$5000.00. This includes the cockpit module, all PC's, software and tons of spare parts. I have a pretty comprehensive set of electrical diagrams and maintenance notes. I'm prepared to give instruction (to a point) on all aspects of the operation and maintenance. Because of the technical complexity, I would advise that potential buyers have a fairly good understanding of electronic/electrical aspects as well as good grasp of IT. I'm not prepared to sell individual items from the simulator, it will be sold as a complete operational unit. Any genuine queries can be sent to me at rodd at castle.net.au Cheers, Rod From phoenixcomm at gmail.com Mon Dec 31 15:44:00 2007 From: phoenixcomm at gmail.com (Cris Harrison) Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 17:44:00 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] Maybe flying Sims ain'so bad In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Du only 33 try looking at Mozilla's Thunderbird! Its got the best local spam filter ever!!! it really learns whats spam and whats not. Its so good in fact I used to use a Black List and other things on my server (BTW I am an ISP) which runs Q-mail now with SPAM-Assassin! (Its a major pain to install, and I no longer use it..) Now we just run a adaptive filter for the BLACK-LISTED domains.:) On Dec 21, 2007 12:09 PM, Dave wrote: > When are pilots really happy > > http://www.compilots.com/news/article2793.html > > Dave > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > It has removed 33 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.6/1192 - Release Date: 21/12/2007 > 13:17 > > > _______________________________________________ > Simpits-tech mailing list > Simpits-tech at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech > To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the above page. Thanks! > From jmiguez at bellsouth.net Mon Dec 31 15:52:08 2007 From: jmiguez at bellsouth.net (John Miguez) Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 17:52:08 -0600 Subject: [simpits-tech] OT: This simpit builder has a new apprentice.(fwd) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <477980A8.3030708@bellsouth.net> Well done! Congratulations to you and your wife. That pink flight suit will be only the first of countless purchases. John Andr? Villeneuve wrote: >
Congratulations Roy! > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "bass pumped" > To: "Simulator Cockpit tech list" > Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 3:24 PM > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] OT: This simpit builder has a new > apprentice.(fwd) > > >> On Dec 19, 2007 6:05 PM, Roy Coates wrote: >>> >>> Apologies for the cross posting. >>> >>> I am rather pleased to announce the birth this morning of my daughter >>> Megan - our first child, the one the 'experts' said we'd never have. >>> >>> Mother and daughter are doing really well and I have this evening been >>> fulfilling my moral obligations and have duly wetted the babies head >>> :-) >>> >>> Now, where can I buy a pink flight suit for her ?? >>> >>> Daddy Roy. >>> >>> :-) >>> >>> -- >>> >> >> >> Congrats Roy!! >> _______________________________________________ >> Simpits-tech mailing list >> Simpits-tech at simpits.org >> http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-tech >> To unsubscribe, please see the instructions at the bottom of the >> above page. Thanks! >> > > >
From allendc at qwest.net Mon Dec 31 18:32:59 2007 From: allendc at qwest.net (David C. Allen) Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 19:32:59 -0700 Subject: [simpits-tech] Maybe flying Sims ain'so bad Message-ID: <20080101023303.39ABE1A98DF@mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net> Hi Chris You spam blocker must be trashing my email, I am still interested in buying the Janco switches Switch:::JANCO::AC45-0032-1::::::surplus?:SW::AC45-0032-1.jpg Switch:::JANCO::AC45-0022-1::::::surplus?:SW:: AC45-0022-1.jpg David From cstemberg at mac.com Thu Dec 27 15:38:04 2007 From: cstemberg at mac.com (Clyde Stemberg) Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 23:38:04 -0000 Subject: [simpits-tech] HElp Message-ID: Does anybody know how to start a design for a sim? I would like to have a live size cockpit of a Piper Navijo Chieftain. Clyde