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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have more to report on this problem.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am using current stable:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>kernel - 1.1.35 Build 2035b-cvs,
2006-05-21</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>freecom - 0.84-pre XMS_Swap,
2006-05-21</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>himem + </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>emm386 -
from emmx208 or emm208x ZIP archive</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I might have added to the original post by
saying that this problem does not occur on an older 486 SX2-50 (no math
coprocessor) in an ISA-only motherboard. Only on this newer Pentium 100
with PCI + ISA.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I could also have added that all my DOS games
(Doom, Quake, Duke, Spacequest, Beneath A Steel Sky) run fine on this computer
and configuration.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>On the chance that there was a physical memory
problem I dropped from 16 to 8 MB (no difference), and then also swapped in the
extra 8 MB (no difference).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>One thing I noticed in further testing was that
Draw, Paint and Doodle have the most problems. All freehand
programs. And if they load successfully, then they work until you try to
close them. Artline is rather stable by comparison, though it does not
seem to offer a freehand tool, at least that I could find quickly.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If I drop all the way to no HIMEM and no EMM386,
there is insufficient memory to run Artline or Paint. Draw, Write, Tetris,
Scgem, and Fanwor all seemed to work. But Doodle locks the machine when it
closes.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If I add back HIMEM but not EMM386, Doodle causes a
reboot while it is loading. And Write and Draw lock up the machine while
loading.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If I add back HIMEM and EMM386, Doodle, Draw and
Paint all lock up the machine while closing.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I don't know if they are related, but I read with
interest the two threads here that started with these
messages:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><A
href="http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/gem-dev/2006-April/001056.html">http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/gem-dev/2006-April/001056.html</A></DIV>
<DIV><A
href="http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/gem-dev/2006-March/001027.html">http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/gem-dev/2006-March/001027.html</A></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>--John Hupp</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>P.S. my test config & autoexec, further
simplified from the originally reported configurations - more mod
reports above:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2>LASTDRIVE=Z<BR>BUFFERS=30<BR>FILES=40<BR>DOS=HIGH,UMB<BR>DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\HIMEM.EXE<BR>DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\EMM386.EXE
NOEMS X=TEST VDS<BR>SHELL=C:\command.com C:\ /E:512
/P=C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>SET PROMPT=$P$G<BR>SET DOSDIR=C:\FDOS<BR>SET
PATH=C:\NET;C:\;C:\FDOS\bin;C:\DOSSHELL;C:\PKZIP<BR>SET TEMP=C:\FDOS\TEMP<BR>SET
TMP=C:\FDOS\TEMP</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>CTMOUSE<BR></DIV></FONT></DIV></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=opengem@prpcompany.com href="mailto:opengem@prpcompany.com">John Hupp</A>
</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=gem-dev@simpits.org
href="mailto:gem-dev@simpits.org">gem-dev@simpits.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, June 04, 2006 1:49 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> [GEM Development] OpenGEM 5 freezes/hangs/locks on FreeDOS
0.9 SR2</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>
<DIV>I just posted this on the FreeDOS list also.<BR><BR>I just
loaded OpenGEM 5 (full version) on a pure FreeDOS 0.9 SR2 machine (Pentium 100,
16MB, Mustang socket 7 motherboard). The only installation hitch I noticed
is that a message flashed by at the outset - something about TZ environment
variable not found, I believe. But the installation did not stop and
seemed to finish without error.<BR><BR>OpenGEM starts fine and displays the
desktop, but freezes whenever I try to run an application. One of the Help
files loaded fine however. If I F5 to bypass FreeDOS startup files and
then start OpenGEM, it loads but the mouse does not work. However the
pointer will move in response to the arrow navigation keys. (I believe it
will load CTMOUSE on its own.)<BR><BR>This FreeDOS installation is as loaded by
the SR2 CD, except that I updated the KERNEL to 1.1.35 Build 2035b-cvs,
2006-04-18 and COMMAND to 0.84-pre XMS_Swap, downloaded 2006-04-18 in
cmdxms.HEAD.zip.<BR><BR>My normal DOS configuration follows below.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>--John Hupp</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>------------------------------------------------------------------<BR><BR>CONFIG.SYS<BR>----------------</DIV>
<DIV>SWITCHES=/F<BR>COUNTRY=001,858,C:\FDOS\BIN\COUNTRY.SYS<BR>SET
LANG=EN<BR>LASTDRIVE=Z<BR>BUFFERS=30<BR>FILES=40<BR>DOS=HIGH,UMB<BR>DOSDATA=UMB<BR>SET
DIRCMD=/OGN /4<BR>DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\HIMEM.EXE<BR>DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\EMM386.EXE
X=TEST VDS<BR>DEVICEHIGH=C:\CDROM\OAKCDROM.SYS
/D:FDCD0001<BR>SHELL=C:\command.com C:\ /E:512 /P=C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT<BR></DIV>
<DIV>AUTOEXEC.BAT</DIV>
<DIV>-------------------</DIV>
<DIV>SET PROMPT=$P$G<BR>SET DOSDIR=C:\FDOS<BR>SET
PATH=C:\NET;C:\;C:\FDOS\bin;C:\DOSSHELL;C:\PKZIP<BR>SET
NLSPATH=C:\FDOS\NLS<BR>SET HELPPATH=C:\FDOS\HELP<BR>SET TEMP=C:\FDOS\TEMP<BR>SET
TMP=C:\FDOS\TEMP<BR>SET CODEPAGE=858<BR>SET WATTCP.CFG=C:\FDOS\BIN</DIV>
<DIV>SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330 T4</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>IF EXIST C:\FDOS\BIN\MOUSE.EXE CTMOUSE</DIV>
<DIV>LH LBACACHE.COM</DIV>
<DIV>LH C:\SHSUCD\SHSUCDHD.EXE /F:?C:\GAMES\SKY\CD.ISO<BR>SHSUCDX /Q+
/D:?FDCD0001 /D:SHSU-CDH</DIV>
<DIV>C:\ESSUTIL\ESSCFG.EXE /A:220 /I:5 /D:1 /E:5 /B:330 /J:E
!<BR>C:\ESSUTIL\ESSVOL.EXE /V:8 /L:8 /W:8 /M:0 /C:8 /S:8 /A:8</DIV>
<DIV>DOSSHELL /G:M2</DIV></FONT></DIV>
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