From jce at seasip.demon.co.uk Thu Apr 16 17:13:07 2015 From: jce at seasip.demon.co.uk (John Elliott) Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 01:13:07 +0100 (BST) Subject: [GEM Development] Driver find Message-ID: There's an interesting driver download here: . 2PAGE_2.ZIP contains what's either a GEM or Ventura driver for the Cornerstone DualPage card. It's got the highest resolution I've seen supported by a GEM driver: 1600x1280, with up to 16 greys. I've only taken a quick look, but it seems to work by piggybacking on the card's DOS driver (using the device special file CTIDSPL$) to get the supported resolution and colour depth. -- John Elliott From geneb at deltasoft.com Fri Apr 17 06:34:56 2015 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (geneb) Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 06:34:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GEM Development] Driver find In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, 17 Apr 2015, John Elliott wrote: > There's an interesting driver download here: > . > > 2PAGE_2.ZIP contains what's either a GEM or Ventura driver for the > Cornerstone DualPage card. It's got the highest resolution I've seen > supported by a GEM driver: 1600x1280, with up to 16 greys. > > I've only taken a quick look, but it seems to work by piggybacking on the > card's DOS driver (using the device special file CTIDSPL$) to get the > supported resolution and colour depth. That's cool! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_! From lproven at gmail.com Fri Apr 17 08:40:26 2015 From: lproven at gmail.com (Liam Proven) Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 17:40:26 +0200 Subject: [GEM Development] Driver find In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 17 April 2015 at 02:13, John Elliott wrote: > There's an interesting driver download here: > . > > 2PAGE_2.ZIP contains what's either a GEM or Ventura driver for the > Cornerstone DualPage card. It's got the highest resolution I've seen > supported by a GEM driver: 1600x1280, with up to 16 greys. > > I've only taken a quick look, but it seems to work by piggybacking on the > card's DOS driver (using the device special file CTIDSPL$) to get the > supported resolution and colour depth. Nice find! I am trying to remember if I kept or binned my ISA dual-head display card during the great clearout before I moved to the Czech Republic last year. (Listmember Ben Jemmett bought my Mac Quadra, JOOI.) If I have it, when I see it again, I will be happy to offer it to anyone here who might want it... FOC of course. -- Liam Proven ? Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lproven at cix.co.uk ? GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lproven at hotmail.com ? Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Cell/Mobiles: +44 7939-087884 (UK) ? +420 702 829 053 (?R) From ben at jemmett.me.uk Fri Apr 17 10:36:09 2015 From: ben at jemmett.me.uk (Ben A L Jemmett) Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 18:36:09 +0100 Subject: [GEM Development] Driver find In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00dd01d07934$fe15db90$fa4192b0$@jemmett.me.uk> > (Listmember Ben Jemmett bought my Mac Quadra, JOOI.) It has the honour of having drawn first blood during my spring-cleaning efforts last week - I somehow managed to slice my knuckle open on the back edge of the case... (Still kicking myself for not taking the dead Classic (?) that was in your garage; Rob M tells me they have a known and easily-repairable failure mode. Mutter mutter.) Regards, Ben A L Jemmett http://flatpack.microwavepizza.co.uk/ From pspete1 at pnc.com.au Sat Apr 18 00:11:47 2015 From: pspete1 at pnc.com.au (Peter R Green) Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 17:11:47 +1000 Subject: [GEM Development] Driver find In-Reply-To: <00dd01d07934$fe15db90$fa4192b0$@jemmett.me.uk> References: <00dd01d07934$fe15db90$fa4192b0$@jemmett.me.uk> Message-ID: <553203B3.4000101@pnc.com.au> I thought for a moment that I had fallen into the mid 1990s! GEM Development has a sudden burst of life. G'day, all! Who is in the Czech republic? How are you all? I hope well. Cases -- and the reverse of motherboards -- can be sharper than you expect. Take care. Incidentally, what e-mail address do you currently have for me? All the best, Peter On 18/04/2015 3:36 AM, Ben A L Jemmett wrote: >> (Listmember Ben Jemmett bought my Mac Quadra, JOOI.) > It has the honour of having drawn first blood during my spring-cleaning efforts last week - I somehow managed to slice my knuckle open on the back edge of the case... > > (Still kicking myself for not taking the dead Classic (?) that was in your garage; Rob M tells me they have a known and easily-repairable failure mode. Mutter mutter.) > > Regards, > Ben A L Jemmett > http://flatpack.microwavepizza.co.uk/ > > _______________________________________________ > gem-dev mailing list > gem-dev at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/gem-dev > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.5863 / Virus Database: 4331/9563 - Release Date: 04/17/15 > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/gem-dev/attachments/20150418/3da8fe89/attachment.html From andreas.nellessen at freenet.de Sat Apr 18 03:36:43 2015 From: andreas.nellessen at freenet.de (andreas.nellessen at freenet.de) Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 12:36:43 +0200 Subject: [GEM Development] Driver find Message-ID: <0584649e2cd48a111747c70a1f415e25@email.freenet.de> Hello! ? This is my e-mail adress. ? Greets Andreas ? -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: "Peter R Green" [pspete1 at pnc.com.au] Gesendet: Sa. 18.04.2015 18:11 An: "GEM Development" [gem-dev at simpits.org] Betreff: Re: [GEM Development] Driver find I thought for a moment that I had fallen into the mid 1990s! GEM Development has a sudden burst of life. G'day, all! Who is in the Czech republic? How are you all? I hope well. Cases -- and the reverse of motherboards -- can be sharper than you expect. Take care. Incidentally, what e-mail address do you currently have for me? All the best, Peter On 18/04/2015 3:36 AM, Ben A L Jemmett wrote:(Listmember Ben Jemmett bought my Mac Quadra, JOOI.)It has the honour of having drawn first blood during my spring-cleaning efforts last week - I somehow managed to slice my knuckle open on the back edge of the case...(Still kicking myself for not taking the dead Classic (?) that was in your garage; Rob M tells me they have a known and easily-repairable failure mode. Mutter mutter.)Regards,Ben A L Jemmetthttp://flatpack.microwavepizza.co.uk/_______________________________________________gem-dev mailing listgem-dev at simpits.orghttp://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/gem-dev-----No virus found in this message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.comVersion: 20150.5863 / Virus Database: 4331/9563 - Release Date: 04/17/15 -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht Ende----- --- Alle Postf?cher an einem Ort. Jetzt wechseln und E-Mail-Adresse mitnehmen! Rundum gl?cklich mit freenetMail -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/gem-dev/attachments/20150418/36b8b63f/attachment-0001.html From lproven at gmail.com Sat Apr 18 05:14:57 2015 From: lproven at gmail.com (Liam Proven) Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 14:14:57 +0200 Subject: [GEM Development] Driver find In-Reply-To: <00dd01d07934$fe15db90$fa4192b0$@jemmett.me.uk> References: <00dd01d07934$fe15db90$fa4192b0$@jemmett.me.uk> Message-ID: On 17 April 2015 at 19:36, Ben A L Jemmett wrote: > It has the honour of having drawn first blood during my spring-cleaning efforts last week - I somehow managed to slice my knuckle open on the back edge of the case... Shame you didn't do that while troubleshooting the SCSI bus. That often needs blood sacrifice. > (Still kicking myself for not taking the dead Classic (?) that was in your garage; Rob M tells me they have a known and easily-repairable failure mode. Mutter mutter.) I'm trying to remember which of the compact Macs is left. I *think* I gave my Classic II to Mark Morgan Lloyd down in Brighton, who took a lot of kit. It had bad caps on the motherboard -- a very common complaint with old machines. Easily repaired /if/ you can solder PCB components, including, I fear, SMT ones. I cannot. I believe I still have the SE/30 which I would really like to get working and keep, TBH. Most of the classic Macs went in the end. What's left -- a G3 desktop (semi working), a G3 tower (also semi working), a G4 tower (died mysteriously while prepping to give away -- I think the fix is trivial), my fully-working Dual G5 PowerMac with Tiger (+ Classic) & Leopard. BTW, anyone on this list might well enjoy the ClassicCmp lists: http://classiccmp.org/ -- Liam Proven ? Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lproven at cix.co.uk ? GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lproven at hotmail.com ? Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Cell/Mobiles: +44 7939-087884 (UK) ? +420 702 829 053 (?R) From ben at jemmett.me.uk Sat Apr 18 05:40:12 2015 From: ben at jemmett.me.uk (Ben A L Jemmett) Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 13:40:12 +0100 Subject: [GEM Development] Driver find In-Reply-To: References: <00dd01d07934$fe15db90$fa4192b0$@jemmett.me.uk> Message-ID: Liam Proven wrote: > I *think* I gave my Classic II to Mark Morgan Lloyd down in Brighton, > who took a lot of kit. It had bad caps on the motherboard -- a very > common complaint with old machines. That sounds like the one I'm thinking of - I think you said at the time that it showed no sign of life at all, and I figured I needed another inanimate lump of dead machine like the proverbial hole in the head... Probably a sensible decision anyway, as if it hadn't have been the caps it might have been a dead flyback in the CRT drive or something equally terminal! > Easily repaired /if/ you can > solder PCB components, including, I fear, SMT ones. > > I cannot. The current when-I-have-time-to-tinker-with-it project is http://flatpack.microwavepizza.co.uk/system/1/ - that's all through-hole (both for a suitably homebrewed appearance and because I started planning it before I'd done any SMT work), but these days I find surface-mount so much more pleasant to deal with! Although I can see not counting soldering amongst one's skillset could represent a serious obstacle, indeed... - BALJ (on a train in search of beer, please excuse any typos. My kingdom for a tactile keyboard...) ---- Liam Proven wrote ---- >On 17 April 2015 at 19:36, Ben A L Jemmett wrote: >> It has the honour of having drawn first blood during my spring-cleaning efforts last week - I somehow managed to slice my knuckle open on the back edge of the case... > >Shame you didn't do that while troubleshooting the SCSI bus. That >often needs blood sacrifice. > >> (Still kicking myself for not taking the dead Classic (?) that was in your garage; Rob M tells me they have a known and easily-repairable failure mode. Mutter mutter.) > >I'm trying to remember which of the compact Macs is left. > >I *think* I gave my Classic II to Mark Morgan Lloyd down in Brighton, >who took a lot of kit. It had bad caps on the motherboard -- a very >common complaint with old machines. Easily repaired /if/ you can >solder PCB components, including, I fear, SMT ones. > >I cannot. > >I believe I still have the SE/30 which I would really like to get >working and keep, TBH. > >Most of the classic Macs went in the end. What's left -- a G3 desktop >(semi working), a G3 tower (also semi working), a G4 tower (died >mysteriously while prepping to give away -- I think the fix is >trivial), my fully-working Dual G5 PowerMac with Tiger (+ Classic) & >Leopard. > >BTW, anyone on this list might well enjoy the ClassicCmp lists: >http://classiccmp.org/ > >-- >Liam Proven ? Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile >Email: lproven at cix.co.uk ? GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven >MSN: lproven at hotmail.com ? Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven >Cell/Mobiles: +44 7939-087884 (UK) ? +420 702 829 053 (?R) >_______________________________________________ >gem-dev mailing list >gem-dev at simpits.org >http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/gem-dev -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/gem-dev/attachments/20150418/338b79fe/attachment.html From lproven at gmail.com Sat Apr 18 06:29:43 2015 From: lproven at gmail.com (Liam Proven) Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 15:29:43 +0200 Subject: [GEM Development] Driver find In-Reply-To: References: <00dd01d07934$fe15db90$fa4192b0$@jemmett.me.uk> Message-ID: On 18 April 2015 at 14:40, Ben A L Jemmett wrote: > That sounds like the one I'm thinking of - I think you said at the time that > it showed no sign of life at all, and I figured I needed another inanimate > lump of dead machine like the proverbial hole in the head... Probably a > sensible decision anyway, as if it hadn't have been the caps it might have > been a dead flyback in the CRT drive or something equally terminal! Might have been. It wasn't that dead, though. It was a gift from a friend -- his first ever computer. I diagnosed bad caps, removed the logic board, took everything removable off it (e.g. ROMs) and ran it through the dishwasher. This removed the electrolyte that was shorting PCB tracks & brought it back to fully-functional life, albeit with very quiet sound. I played with it a lot -- had both System 7.6.1 and 6.0.8 working, both on the Internet via my SCSI-Ethernet adaptor, both all tricked out. Fun fact: once you add all the useful stuff to System 6 to bring back features you got used to from later Systems, like a menu-bar clock, a cascading hierarchical Control Panel, networking, etc. then it's just as big and just as slow as System 7. But with much of their electrolyte missing, it failed again. A 2nd pass through the dishwasher wasn't enough this time. I think you'd get on with Mark ML -- want me to put you 2 in touch in case you can come to a mutually-satisfactory exchange of old kit? -- Liam Proven ? Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lproven at cix.co.uk ? GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lproven at hotmail.com ? Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Cell/Mobiles: +44 7939-087884 (UK) ? +420 702 829 053 (?R) From rob at midworld.co.uk Sat Apr 18 13:38:25 2015 From: rob at midworld.co.uk (rob at midworld.co.uk) Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 20:38:25 +0000 Subject: [GEM Development] Driver find In-Reply-To: <00dd01d07934$fe15db90$fa4192b0$@jemmett.me.uk> References: <00dd01d07934$fe15db90$fa4192b0$@jemmett.me.uk> Message-ID: <20150418203825.GC17678@midworld.co.uk> Hi all, Nice to see some activity in here! > (Still kicking myself for not taking the dead Classic (?) that was in your garage; Rob M tells me they have a known and easily-repairable failure mode. Mutter mutter.) We were either talking about an original Classic (because it had the XO boot-from-ROM feature in it) or an SE/30 (because it can run A/UX if you squint a bit). I remember talking about both of those on the great road trip [tm] but I can't remember which it was you were kicking yourself about! Ta Rob From rob at midworld.co.uk Sat Apr 18 13:41:08 2015 From: rob at midworld.co.uk (rob at midworld.co.uk) Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 20:41:08 +0000 Subject: [GEM Development] Driver find In-Reply-To: <20150418203825.GC17678@midworld.co.uk> References: <00dd01d07934$fe15db90$fa4192b0$@jemmett.me.uk> <20150418203825.GC17678@midworld.co.uk> Message-ID: <20150418204108.GD17678@midworld.co.uk> On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 08:38:25PM +0000, rob at midworld.co.uk wrote: > We were either talking about an original Classic (because it had the XO boot-from-ROM feature in it) or an SE/30 (because it can run A/UX if you squint a bit). I remember talking about both of those on the great road trip [tm] but I can't remember which it was you were kicking yourself about! PS: I can't remember if the classic ii has the XO stuff in it, I've never had one to try it on From usotsuki at buric.co Sat Apr 18 14:39:41 2015 From: usotsuki at buric.co (Steve Nickolas) Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 23:39:41 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [GEM Development] Driver find In-Reply-To: <20150418204108.GD17678@midworld.co.uk> References: <00dd01d07934$fe15db90$fa4192b0$@jemmett.me.uk> <20150418203825.GC17678@midworld.co.uk> <20150418204108.GD17678@midworld.co.uk> Message-ID: On Sat, 18 Apr 2015, rob at midworld.co.uk wrote: > On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 08:38:25PM +0000, rob at midworld.co.uk wrote: >> We were either talking about an original Classic (because it had the XO >> boot-from-ROM feature in it) or an SE/30 (because it can run A/UX if >> you squint a bit). I remember talking about both of those on the great >> road trip [tm] but I can't remember which it was you were kicking >> yourself about! > > PS: I can't remember if the classic ii has the XO stuff in it, I've > never had one to try it on I know my Performa 636 doesn't, which is a pity because I have no other way to boot it right now. :P -uso. From lproven at gmail.com Sun Apr 19 09:42:15 2015 From: lproven at gmail.com (Liam Proven) Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 18:42:15 +0200 Subject: [GEM Development] Driver find In-Reply-To: <20150418203825.GC17678@midworld.co.uk> References: <00dd01d07934$fe15db90$fa4192b0$@jemmett.me.uk> <20150418203825.GC17678@midworld.co.uk> Message-ID: On 18 April 2015 at 22:38, wrote: > We were either talking about an original Classic (because it had the XO boot-from-ROM feature in it) or an SE/30 (because it can run A/UX if you squint a bit). I remember talking about both of those on the great road trip [tm] but I can't remember which it was you were kicking yourself about! Oh, yes, a weird key combination to start 6.0.8 (IIRC) from ROM. I think I tried it and it didn't work. A stripped-out HD install of 6.0.8 boots nearly as quickly from an elderly SCSI drive, mind... -- Liam Proven ? Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lproven at cix.co.uk ? GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lproven at hotmail.com ? Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Cell/Mobiles: +44 7939-087884 (UK) ? +420 702 829 053 (?R) From rob at midworld.co.uk Sun Apr 19 13:34:12 2015 From: rob at midworld.co.uk (rob at midworld.co.uk) Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 20:34:12 +0000 Subject: [GEM Development] Driver find In-Reply-To: References: <00dd01d07934$fe15db90$fa4192b0$@jemmett.me.uk> <20150418203825.GC17678@midworld.co.uk> Message-ID: <20150419203412.GE17678@midworld.co.uk> On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 06:42:15PM +0200, Liam Proven wrote: > Oh, yes, a weird key combination to start 6.0.8 (IIRC) from ROM. I > think I tried it and it didn't work. Cmd-Opt-X-O on boot :-) Heaven alone knows why I remember that and not useful things like, say, my mother's birthday. Aaaaanyway.... From lproven at gmail.com Sun Apr 19 16:21:07 2015 From: lproven at gmail.com (Liam Proven) Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 01:21:07 +0200 Subject: [GEM Development] Driver find In-Reply-To: <20150419203412.GE17678@midworld.co.uk> References: <00dd01d07934$fe15db90$fa4192b0$@jemmett.me.uk> <20150418203825.GC17678@midworld.co.uk> <20150419203412.GE17678@midworld.co.uk> Message-ID: On 19 April 2015 at 22:34, wrote: > On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 06:42:15PM +0200, Liam Proven wrote: >> Oh, yes, a weird key combination to start 6.0.8 (IIRC) from ROM. I >> think I tried it and it didn't work. > > Cmd-Opt-X-O on boot :-) Heaven alone knows why I remember that and not useful things like, say, my mother's birthday. > > Aaaaanyway.... About 3y ago, a member of ClassicCmp gave me a /brand new/ /still sealed in the box/ Amstrad PCW 9512+. He was amazed when, during testing, I could still remember the keystroke to reboot it, some 20y after last using one. (Shift+Extra+Exit, FWIW.) :-) -- Liam Proven ? 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