From topcatdrc at yahoo.com Fri Jun 3 18:53:36 2011 From: topcatdrc at yahoo.com (Thomas Clayton) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 18:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GEM Development] Erratic Mouse Movement Message-ID: <376373.58885.qm@web82304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dear , I've been trying to use OpenGEM 6 directly over DR-DOS 8. (It is mostly DOS 7.03 except for the "kernel" files, from what I can see, and I'll be attempting to "move back" to 'pure' 7.03, in any case, in the near future.) The system is a single core Athlon XP "2800+" (2,083 in real MHZ) with 1 gig(B) of DDR RAM on a 256MB FAT16 partition at the very beginning of the disk. All three Logitech mice (1 is a USB so it doesn't count in the DOS) work fine in Win2K on another partition or another HDD. The two PS/2 port ones are one with a wheel and one with three-buttons (Right-handed design; the best there ever was). Drivers: DRMOUSE from the DOS and CTMouse (Cute Mouse?) from free DOS. I haven't, YET, tried, either Microsoft's (8.x) nor Logitech's (6.43) drivers. The L's have "cloaking" which worked very well (back when it was an everyday thing for me!) which loads the driver into upper / high memory. Same erratic behavior in Borland's REFLEX 2.0, BTW. I had one other problem there: the fonts looked like hieroglyphs. Fixed that with Fix8x14.com for video cards withOUT that font in their BIOS. Goto "more better software" which will tell you about this. http://www.bttr-software.de/ It's IN English! Anyway, IF the driver replacement should FAIL, then I'll change to DR-DOS 7 sooner rather than later and try again. Sincerely, Thomas Clayton From lproven at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 10:27:49 2011 From: lproven at gmail.com (Liam Proven) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 18:27:49 +0100 Subject: [GEM Development] Erratic Mouse Movement In-Reply-To: <376373.58885.qm@web82304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <376373.58885.qm@web82304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 4 June 2011 02:53, Thomas Clayton wrote: > Dear , > > I've been trying to use OpenGEM 6 directly over DR-DOS 8. (It is mostly DOS 7.03 except for the "kernel" files, from what I can see, and I'll be attempting to "move back" to 'pure' 7.03, in any case, in the near future.) The system is a single core Athlon XP "2800+" (2,083 in real MHZ) with 1 gig(B) of DDR RAM on a 256MB FAT16 partition at the very beginning of the disk. All three Logitech mice (1 is a USB so it doesn't count in the DOS) work fine in Win2K on another partition or another HDD. The two PS/2 port ones are one with a wheel and one with three-buttons (Right-handed design; the best there ever was). > > Drivers: DRMOUSE from the DOS and CTMouse (Cute Mouse?) from free DOS. I haven't, YET, tried, either Microsoft's (8.x) nor Logitech's (6.43) drivers. > The L's have "cloaking" which worked very well (back when it was an everyday thing for me!) which loads the driver into upper / high memory. > > Same erratic behavior in Borland's REFLEX 2.0, BTW. I had one other problem there: the fonts looked like hieroglyphs. Fixed that with Fix8x14.com for video cards withOUT that font in their BIOS. Goto "more better software" which will tell you about this. > > http://www.bttr-software.de/ > It's IN English! > > Anyway, IF the driver replacement should FAIL, then I'll change to DR-DOS 7 sooner rather than later and try again. > > > Sincerely, > > Thomas Clayton Dear who? :?) Have you tried with a boot floppy, to see if it's a DOS issue? You can download a variety from here: http://bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm If you need a generic mouse driver, I can probably find one and email it. Let me know. -- Liam Proven ? Info & profile: http://www.google.com/profiles/lproven Email: lproven at cix.co.uk ? GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lproven at gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 ? Cell: +44 7939-087884 ? Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AIM/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven ? MSN: lproven at hotmail.com ? ICQ: 73187508 From jce at seasip.demon.co.uk Mon Jun 6 11:05:51 2011 From: jce at seasip.demon.co.uk (John Elliott) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 19:05:51 +0100 (BST) Subject: [GEM Development] Erratic Mouse Movement In-Reply-To: from "Thomas Clayton" at Jun 03, 2011 6:53:36 pm GMT Message-ID: > Drivers: DRMOUSE from the DOS and CTMouse (Cute Mouse?) from free DOS. I > haven't, YET, tried, either Microsoft's (8.x) nor Logitech's (6.43) drivers. > The L's have "cloaking" which worked very well (back when it was an > everyday thing for me!) which loads the driver into upper / high memory. If it's a PS/2 mouse, you could try using GEM's native PS/2 support and seeing if that made any difference. Find the patch area in the video driver as described at , and change the 'mouse' byte from 2 to 10. -- John Elliott From topcatdrc at yahoo.com Mon Jun 6 18:49:09 2011 From: topcatdrc at yahoo.com (Thomas Clayton) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 18:49:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GEM Development] Erratic Mouse Movement In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <511667.17180.qm@web82302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Liam, Yeah. You CAUGHT me! :-( I forgot to go back and put "GEM Developers" in the salutation line. I usually "cut and paste" from the address and then modify it. Thanks for the BOOT disk reference URL. I've got most of MS Corp.s from "back when" (personal acquisitions over time). BTW, anyone know where PC-DOS 7 (.0, .01) Diskette 1 (whole) can be obtained? I've got 2, 3, 4, 5, but NOT the #1 BOOT disk of an install set. I've tried lots of things over the weekend - including booting from a floppy with minimal add-ins - and will be making a full report (letter), shortly. Library closing shortly! Tom Clayton --- On Mon, 6/6/11, Liam Proven wrote: > From: Liam Proven > Subject: Re: [GEM Development] Erratic Mouse Movement > To: "GEM Development" > Date: Monday, June 6, 2011, 12:27 PM > On 4 June 2011 02:53, Thomas Clayton > > wrote: > > Dear , > > > > I've been trying to use OpenGEM 6 directly over DR-DOS > 8. (It is mostly DOS 7.03 except for the "kernel" files, > from what I can see, and I'll be attempting to "move back" > to 'pure' 7.03, in any case, in the near future.) The system > is a single core Athlon XP "2800+" (2,083 in real MHZ) with > 1 gig(B) of DDR RAM on a 256MB FAT16 partition at the very > beginning of the disk. All three Logitech mice (1 is a USB > so it doesn't count in the DOS) work fine in Win2K on > another partition or another HDD. The two PS/2 port ones are > one with a wheel and one with three-buttons (Right-handed > design; the best there ever was). > > > > Drivers: DRMOUSE from the DOS and CTMouse (Cute > Mouse?) from free DOS. I haven't, YET, tried, either > Microsoft's (8.x) nor Logitech's (6.43) drivers. > > The L's have "cloaking" which worked very well (back > when it was an everyday thing for me!) which loads the > driver into upper / high memory. > > > > Same erratic behavior in Borland's REFLEX 2.0, BTW. I > had one other problem there: the fonts looked like > hieroglyphs. Fixed that with Fix8x14.com for video cards > withOUT that font in their BIOS. Goto "more better software" > which will tell you about this. > > > > http://www.bttr-software.de/ > > It's IN English! > > > > Anyway, IF the driver replacement should FAIL, then > I'll change to DR-DOS 7 sooner rather than later and try > again. > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Thomas Clayton > > Dear who? :?) > > Have you tried with a boot floppy, to see if it's a DOS > issue? You can > download a variety from here: > http://bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm > > If you need a generic mouse driver, I can probably find one > and email > it. Let me know. > > > -- > Liam Proven ? Info & profile: http://www.google.com/profiles/lproven > Email: lproven at cix.co.uk > ? GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lproven at gmail.com > Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 ? Cell: +44 7939-087884 ? Fax: + > 44 870-9151419 > AIM/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven ? MSN: lproven at hotmail.com > ? ICQ: 73187508 > _______________________________________________ > gem-dev mailing list > gem-dev at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/gem-dev > From Dr.Kasten at t-online.de Sat Jun 18 12:38:42 2011 From: Dr.Kasten at t-online.de (M.Kasten) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 19:38:42 -0000 Subject: [GEM Development] links (fwd) Message-ID: <1QY1Lr-0zdhiK0@fwd23.aul.t-online.de> ---Urspr?ngliche Nachricht--- Von:"M.Kasten" <05206920980-0001 at T-Online.de> An: Betreff:links Datum:18. Jun 2011 21:04 Dear Members, following some links that maybe of interest for some: http://alloy.com.au/web_download/OLD/REAL32/7.5X/ (a free evaluation-copy of Real32 7.54, a Real32 SDK and some more stuff) http://support.automation.siemens.com/WW/view/en/4172613 (an announcement of SIEMENS software S5 DOS/MT running under FlexOS, with X/GEM and FlexNET) http://support.automation.siemens.com/WW/view/en/18978182 (PDF of the manual for the PG 730 programming machine with a detailed description of PlantTop (aka Desktop), output.app and FlexNet) Best regards, Dr.Michael Kasten ------ (first trial was bounced) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/gem-dev/attachments/20110618/76b4c1fc/attachment.html From topcatdrc at yahoo.com Tue Jun 21 14:58:53 2011 From: topcatdrc at yahoo.com (Thomas Clayton) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 14:58:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GEM Development] Does This Arrive? Message-ID: <950275.45683.qm@web82302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dear Group: Apparently several of my letters haven't been seen by you - and may now be LOST - I just got back a "bounce-back" message on/from one letter that I sent in reply to M. Kasten. Let's see IF this one "goes through". Thomas Clayton From topcatdrc at yahoo.com Tue Jun 21 17:25:29 2011 From: topcatdrc at yahoo.com (Thomas Clayton) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 17:25:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GEM Development] Does This Arrive? In-Reply-To: <950275.45683.qm@web82302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <876275.22963.qm@web82306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yes it did arrive back to me. The "bounced" message said: " Sorry, we were unable to deliver your message to the following address. : Remote host said: 554 5.7.1 Service unavailable; Client host [66.94.237.92] blocked using dnsbl.sorbs.net; Currently Sending Spam See: http://www.sorbs.net/lookup.shtml?66.94.237.92 [RCPT_TO] " Also, " X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.111.304355 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 18:07:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Clayton Subject: Re: [GEM Development] links (fwd) To: GEM Development In-Reply-To: <1QY1Lr-0zdhiK0 at fwd23.aul.t-online.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 " So "Go Figure". (I had thought that maybe I'd used my "other persona" on Yahoo!, but, apparently, I didn't!) Cuttings from my original message back to Dr. M. Kasten: A _slightly_ wrong URL keeeps one from arriving at their destination! :-) http://www.alloy.com.au/web_download/OLD/REAL32/7.5X/ _should_ get one 'there'. (The "www." were missing.) The readme.txt says: " R32DEMO.ZIP Real/32 Demo Diskette IMSD.EXE Diagnostic Program for REAL/32 - Supplies Tech information. ZAPSFIX.TXT Lists details of Zaps. TECHTIP.TXT Lists of Technical Tips. INTMULTI.ZIP Alloy driver for HCS PC-Com Cards. R32UP754.ZIP Upgrade from REAL/32 v7.5x to v7.54 R32SDK.ZIP REAL/32 Software Developers Kit -- NEW JAN 1997! " As i remember, IMS made a version available to us (and/or the DR group) about two(?) years ago. I know 'cause I've recently seen my diskette set that I made back then while 'going thru' diskettes. You had to get a serial number(?) to have it run though(?). Sincerely, Thomas Clayton BTW, I forgot: the Erratic Mouse was NOT solved but I did finish by realizing that I had TWO GEM systems on one drive ?"overlapping". --- On Tue, 6/21/11, Thomas Clayton wrote: > From: Thomas Clayton > Subject: [GEM Development] Does This Arrive? > To: "GEM Development" > Date: Tuesday, June 21, 2011, 4:58 PM > Dear Group: > > Apparently several of my letters haven't been seen by you - > and may now be LOST - I just got back a "bounce-back" > message on/from one letter that I sent in reply to M. > Kasten. > > Let's see IF this one "goes through". > > Thomas Clayton > _______________________________________________ > gem-dev mailing list > gem-dev at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/gem-dev >