From ben at jemmett.me.uk Mon Feb 7 13:26:44 2011 From: ben at jemmett.me.uk (Ben A L Jemmett) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 21:26:44 -0000 Subject: [GEM Development] FW: DR Presentation Team 2.0 Message-ID: <3AEE7C12B2DB4B508C90BBBAAC1DE3D5@JSD.jemmettsoftware.co.uk> All, Having been prompted by a message from Dr. Kasten earlier, I discovered a pair of messages that had been held for moderation due to size. Looks like I made a pils of my mailbox rules when I had to change my primary e-mail address recently; my apologies to all for the delay in passing these messages on. I've uploaded the file that was attached to the below message to: http://flatpack.microwavepizza.co.uk/gem/PresTeam20.zip Regards, Ben A L Jemmett. http://flatpack.microwavepizza.co.uk/ _____ From: M.Kasten [mailto:Dr.Kasten at t-online.de] Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 8:50 PM To: gem-dev at simpits.org Subject: DR Presentation Team 2.0 Dear administrator, sorry for this another large attachment, but i think this software is interesting for some members because i haven?t found it in the web. The package contains six disk images and an enclosed nice Artline-demo. Presentation Team 2.0 runs under GEM/4 and comes with a file converting program (e.g. .GEM to .IMG) and an advanced OUTPUT.APP. I have also a full set of english manuals. If someone is interested i will make pdf?s. Best regards, M.Kasten Dr.Kasten at t-online.de -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/gem-dev/attachments/20110207/66743e62/attachment.html From ben at jemmett.me.uk Mon Feb 7 13:26:58 2011 From: ben at jemmett.me.uk (Ben A L Jemmett) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 21:26:58 -0000 Subject: [GEM Development] FW: DR operating systems Message-ID: All, Having been prompted by a message from Dr. Kasten earlier, I discovered a pair of messages that had been held for moderation due to size. Looks like I made a pils of my mailbox rules when I had to change my primary e-mail address recently; my apologies to all for the delay in passing these messages on. In case there is any interest (this ZFx86 SoC triggers my 'ooh, shiny' alarm...), I've uploaded the two files that were attached to the below message to: http://flatpack.microwavepizza.co.uk/gem/DS-0001-15APR2009.pdf http://flatpack.microwavepizza.co.uk/gem/DS-0008-15MAY2009.pdf Regards, Ben A L Jemmett. http://flatpack.microwavepizza.co.uk/ -----Original Message----- From: David Feldman [mailto:dfeldman at zfmicro.com] Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 10:24 PM To: GEM Development Subject: RE: [GEM Development] DR operating systems Hello to anyone interested in DR-DOS. I have seen a few e-mails regarding folks looking for DR-DOS. I don't know if this is the right medium to respond so if not, I apologize in advance - no intention to spam anyone :-) ZF Micro Solutions offers a room temperature rated ZFx86 PC-on-a-Chip with a DR-DOS 7.0 license for $14.95. Includes the chip and a CD with DR-DOS 7.0 files, access to all documentation and shipping. See attached description - only difference from the data sheet is that the chip is only rated for room temp operation at -20C to +25C (-4F to 77F). The ZFx86 is a 388BGA device and when sold this way comes without any support but full documentation and support is available for serious projects. Best Regards, David L. Feldman CEO ZF Micro Solutions, Inc. 926 Industrial Avenue, Palo Alto, CA 94303 Voice: +1-650-846-6500 Fax: +1-650-846-6502 Direct Line: +1-650-846-6505 Internet: http://www.zfmicro.com/ Email: dfeldman at zfmicro.com -----Original Message----- From: gem-dev-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:gem-dev-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Clayton Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 1:16 PM To: GEM Development Subject: Re: [GEM Development] DR operating systems Dear ALL: While poking around eBay, I came across an offering of DR-DOS 6 just BEFORE this exchange of letters began. e-Bay Item number: 180411515722 " FULL DR-DOS 6.0 -- Full 3 Disk Set -- DRDOS ***NEW*** # Latest revised DR-DOS 6.0 on 3.5-inch 1.44MB media. # Includes the full two diskette set: * Disk 1 - Install * Disk 2 - ViewMax # Plus an additional disk containing low-level source code files (not part of the standard distribution): * Disk 3 - DRBIOS & SKELBIOS # We were licensed directly by Digital Research to distribute DR-DOS. # Digital Research embedded and compiled our name into the bootup display to prove our ownership of distribution rights (please see above photo of bootup display). Note: Our name appearing in the initial bootup message is the ONLY difference between our software and the generic software. # View the release notes HERE. http://208.109.247.6/st/files/drdos6_readme.txt # Printed manuals are not included. # Also available on 5-1/4 inch 1.2MB media - please see our other listings. " [In the two diskette set "auction", there is this note:] " Note: If you wish to receive the 3-disk set which includes an optional third disk containing DRBIOS and SKELBIOS low-level source code files, please see our other auctions. The third disk is not part of the standard DR-DOS distribution and was generally distributed only to OEMs and product developers. It is of primary interest to those wishing to make modifications to or understand the workings of the BIOS portion of the O/S, or to those wishing to create low-level drivers. " There exists, both, 3.5in and 5.25in three(3)-diskette sets AND some two(2)-diskette 3.5in(?) sets. Twenty to thirty, in all. Oh. - and less then (<) 10$ a-piece(@). Sincerely, Thomas Clayton --- On Wed, 12/1/10, M.Kasten wrote: From: M.Kasten Subject: [GEM Development] DR operating systems To: gem-dev at simpits.org Date: Wednesday, December 1, 2010, 4:56 PM Dear members, can anybody tell me something about the licence state of the Digital Research operating systems (CP/M, MP/M, Concurrent DOS, Multiuser DOS, FlexOS, Multiuser DOS, DR DOS) ? It`s a little bit confusing, on the one side you can download DR DOS 7 for free, on the other side you have to pay at DRDOS.org. What?s the difference between XM/GEM and GEM/XM ? Thank?s for your answers, Michael Kasten Dr.Kasten at t-online.de _______________________________________________ gem-dev mailing list gem-dev at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/gem-dev From geneb at deltasoft.com Mon Feb 7 13:36:16 2011 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 13:36:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [GEM Development] FW: DR operating systems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, 7 Feb 2011, Ben A L Jemmett wrote: > All, > > Having been prompted by a message from Dr. Kasten earlier, I discovered a > pair of messages that had been held for moderation due to size. Looks like > I made a pils of my mailbox rules when I had to change my primary e-mail > address recently; my apologies to all for the delay in passing these > messages on. > > In case there is any interest (this ZFx86 SoC triggers my 'ooh, shiny' > alarm...), I've uploaded the two files that were attached to the below > message to: > > http://flatpack.microwavepizza.co.uk/gem/DS-0001-15APR2009.pdf > http://flatpack.microwavepizza.co.uk/gem/DS-0008-15MAY2009.pdf > They're neat, but not very many hobbyists can solder down a BGA part, let alone produce a board for one. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. From ben at jemmett.me.uk Mon Feb 7 13:55:09 2011 From: ben at jemmett.me.uk (Ben A L Jemmett) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 21:55:09 -0000 Subject: [GEM Development] FW: DR operating systems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Gene wrote: > They're neat, but not very many hobbyists can solder down a > BGA part, let alone produce a board for one. :) Yeah, you're not wrong -- I find SOIC packages stretch my abilities enough at the moment, and they've got pins you can actually reach from the outside! Regards, Ben A L Jemmett. http://flatpack.microwavepizza.co.uk/ From ben at jemmett.me.uk Tue Feb 8 15:18:54 2011 From: ben at jemmett.me.uk (Ben A L Jemmett) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 23:18:54 -0000 Subject: [GEM Development] FW: GEM Scan manual Message-ID: <6542E174829F4A4D91D84A2DC003AB9A@JSD.jemmettsoftware.co.uk> Here's another message that got held back -- the attachment is now at http://flatpack.microwavepizza.co.uk/gem/Scandoc.zip for your reading pleasure. Regards, Ben A L Jemmett. http://flatpack.microwavepizza.co.uk/ ---Urspr?ngliche Nachricht--- Von: M.Kasten An: Betreff: GEM Scan manual Datum: 06. Feb 2011 01:46 ________________________________ Dear members, in the attachment you can find my (amateur-) translation of the GEM Scan manual. I hope it will be helpfull for some. It?s written on 1st word and also converted to the RTF-format with the wpls2rtf-program from the GEMutils found at Vetusware.com. Best regards, Dr.Michael Kasten Dr.Kasten at t-online.de From alec.beanse at virgin.net Mon Feb 14 05:17:20 2011 From: alec.beanse at virgin.net (Alec Beanse) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 13:17:20 +0000 Subject: [GEM Development] GEM User Guides In-Reply-To: <6542E174829F4A4D91D84A2DC003AB9A@JSD.jemmettsoftware.co.uk> References: <6542E174829F4A4D91D84A2DC003AB9A@JSD.jemmettsoftware.co.uk> Message-ID: In case anyone is not aware there is a whole load of GEM documentation in PDF format here: http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ digitalResearch/gem/ Apologies if you are already aware of this. Alec Beanse From jce at seasip.demon.co.uk Mon Feb 14 12:16:14 2011 From: jce at seasip.demon.co.uk (John Elliott) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 20:16:14 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [GEM Development] OS-Tans Message-ID: The OS-tan phenomenon, as I understand it, involves drawing cute female personifications of operating systems. As far as I can tell no-one's drawn GEM-tan yet, though there are references to her in other places, such as: If someone does draw her, I think she ought to have a bowtie as a homage to the Close button. -- John Elliott From lproven at gmail.com Mon Feb 14 12:21:42 2011 From: lproven at gmail.com (Liam Proven) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 20:21:42 +0000 Subject: [GEM Development] OS-Tans In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 8:16 PM, John Elliott wrote: > ?The OS-tan phenomenon, as I understand it, involves drawing cute female > personifications of operating systems. As far as I can tell no-one's > drawn GEM-tan yet, though there are references to her in other places, such > as: > > ?If someone does draw her, I think she ought to have a bowtie as a homage to > the Close button. That is a superb idea - I like it. Also possibly one of those painfully-trendy-a-while-ago Atari T-shirts with the "Mount Fuji" logo on it? :?) -- Liam Proven ? Info & profile: http://www.google.com/profiles/lproven Email: lproven at cix.co.uk ? GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lproven at gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 ? Cell: +44 7939-087884 ? Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AIM/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven ? MSN: lproven at hotmail.com ? ICQ: 73187508 From topcatdrc at yahoo.com Mon Feb 14 12:52:40 2011 From: topcatdrc at yahoo.com (Thomas Clayton) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 12:52:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: [GEM Development] GEM User Guides In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <406109.1715.qm@web82308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Alec, Since no one else has replied, THANK YOU! Tom Clayton --- On Mon, 2/14/11, Alec Beanse wrote: > From: Alec Beanse > Subject: [GEM Development] GEM User Guides > To: "GEM Development" > Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 7:17 AM > In case anyone is not aware there is > a whole load of GEM? > documentation in PDF format here: > > http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ > > digitalResearch/gem/ > > Apologies if you are already aware of this. > > Alec Beanse > _______________________________________________ > gem-dev mailing list > gem-dev at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/gem-dev > From ari.juhani.sillanpaa at gmail.com Mon Feb 14 21:32:13 2011 From: ari.juhani.sillanpaa at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ari_Sillanp=E4=E4?=) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 07:32:13 +0200 Subject: [GEM Development] GEM User Guides In-Reply-To: References: <6542E174829F4A4D91D84A2DC003AB9A@JSD.jemmettsoftware.co.uk> Message-ID: This is great, thanks! 2011/2/14 Alec Beanse > In case anyone is not aware there is a whole load of GEM > documentation in PDF format here: > > http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ > digitalResearch/gem/ > > Apologies if you are already aware of this. > > Alec Beanse > _______________________________________________ > gem-dev mailing list > gem-dev at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/gem-dev > -- ******************************************** * Ari Sillanp?? * * e-mail ari.sillanpaa at nic.fi * ******************************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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