From wb2ztn at gmail.com  Tue Jun 16 05:14:41 2009
From: wb2ztn at gmail.com (kurt godel)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 08:14:41 -0400
Subject: [GEM Development] make,make install.
Message-ID: <3889b5fe0906160514s6de4a08hebb1cb8583a98f6d@mail.gmail.com>

Just to get this straight, I have djgpp, and therefore djgpp/bin; so,
exactly what from opengem5 do I need
to shovel into bin(I'm assuming it's bin); then inside bin I type make/make
install? and when use make
alone?. Also, I don't get the difference between gem app and gem desk
accessory; i.e. why the latter
doesn't work right with djgpp. I am very familiar with djgpp, especially in
terms of c++, which means I
am getting used to the terms of c, which can be different.--tnx,kurt--<
wb2ztn at gmail.com>.
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From topcatdrc at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 16 08:18:40 2009
From: topcatdrc at yahoo.com (Thomas Clayton)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 08:18:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GEM Development] make,make install.
Message-ID: <647584.30034.qm@web82302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


Square Brackets, below, are MY inserts for clarification.

Tom - who is very curious about this "compiler stuff", too!

--- On Tue, 6/16/09, kurt godel <wb2ztn at gmail.com> wrote:

From: kurt godel <wb2ztn at gmail.com>
Subject: [GEM Development] make,make install.
To: gem-dev at simpits.org
Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 7:14 AM

Just to get this straight, I have djgpp, and therefore djgpp/bin;
so, exactly what from opengem5 do I need to shovel into bin ?
(I'm assuming it's bin);

then inside bin I type make / make[-]install?
 and when [do I] use make alone?.

Also,
 I don't get the difference between gem app and gem desk accessory;
 i.e. why the latter doesn't work right with djgpp. 


I am very familiar with djgpp, especially in terms of c++, which means I
am getting used to the terms of c, which can be different.
--tnx,kurt
--<wb2ztn at gmail.com>.


From jce at seasip.demon.co.uk  Tue Jun 16 14:55:27 2009
From: jce at seasip.demon.co.uk (John Elliott)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 22:55:27 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [GEM Development] make,make install.
In-Reply-To: <no.id> from "kurt godel" at Jun 16, 2009 08:14:41 
Message-ID: <E1MGgcp-0001qA-00@seasip.demon.co.uk>

> Also, I don't get the difference between gem app and gem desk accessory;
> i.e. why the latter doesn't work right with djgpp.

  GEM desktop accessories, though they are stored in .EXE format, are loaded
as overlays into a 16-bit process. They thus share GEM.EXE's program segment
prefix, rather than having a proper one of their own. Apparently this can
give a GO32 program trouble. They also get terminated without warning; when
GEM shuts down it just drops all its accessories on the floor without
bothering to let them know.
  That was as far as I got when I gave up on trying to write accessories in
DJGPP. It was a nightmare to debug, because at the time the only debug info
I could get was stack traces in white on a white background. Sometimes.

  To build GEM itself, you don't want DJGPP -- you want a 16-bit compiler.
Anything I've touched has been done in Pacific C, while the original build
tools included Lattice C, Metaware High C, and Borland C.

-- 
John Elliott